[04:42] <Fudgey> are other people not seeing idnicators update their status or is it just me? i.e network and volume
[06:13] <Fudge> indicators
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:21] <penguin42> Hey BK
[11:23] <BluesKaj> hi penguin42
[13:19] <penguin42> hmm just done my 1st saucy vm install; now let me dig out the bug numbers of the old bugs
[15:27] <penguin42> curious, nested sauce in sauce kvm in raring is very touchy - rebooting the 2nd level guest sometimes
[16:08] <penguin42> nah, way too unstable to get a 3rd level
[17:14] <johnjohn101> are most of the installable apps from saucy compiled using gcc 4.8?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> all my apps are working in 13.10 , don't see any need to compile anything
[17:17] <johnjohn101> i meant packages compiled with the new gcc?
[17:18] <johnjohn101> i understand you don't need to compile if you download a package
[17:24] <BluesKaj> yes , I understand that using a package in the repos is safer than compiling one IME :)
[17:27] <lordievader> Good evening.
[17:28] <penguin42> johnjohn101: There is normally a recompile at some stage where it uses the latest compiler - not sure if that's happened yet
[17:29] <penguin42> johnjohn101: Throwing the whole repo through a compiler is a good test (especially if you then try the packages it produced!)
[17:46] <johnjohn101> penguin42: thanks, i was just curious, earliest i've ever started with the daily.
[17:47]  * penguin42 notes that 'saucy' is causing some interesting google hits when searching for things - it was a bad idea for a name
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> lol
[17:47] <penguin42> johnjohn101: https://code.launchpad.net/~mitya57/ubuntu/saucy/inkscape/fix-for-gcc48  looks like there are fixes happening already
[17:48] <penguin42> wilee-nilee: Look, you just wait until you have to file a saucy gimp bug
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> that is funny
[17:50] <BluesKaj> did a clean 13.04 install , then elease upgraded after sed-ing the sources.list , commented the ppas , and all seems fine except for FF freezing now and then , so I installed Opera and it's working nicely
[17:50] <penguin42> BluesKaj: I did an install from daily in a vm - seems mostly ok
[17:51] <BluesKaj> which daily , penguin42 ?
[17:51] <penguin42> one I got today
[17:51] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Saucy
[17:53] <BluesKaj> yeah found them , didn't realize they were available already , guess I should read my kubuntu mail more closely
[17:54] <genii-around> Heh. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yE1jakaG6kk/TSi1ff0Yv-I/AAAAAAAACok/IRpyehgjfYo/s1600/saucy+digest.jpg
[17:55] <BluesKaj> ok , cool http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[17:55] <penguin42> BluesKaj: It was a plain Ubuntu daily I tried
[17:55] <penguin42> (When is Qt based Unity due back - that might be usable in a VM again)
[17:56] <BluesKaj> yeah , I figured that penguin42 :)
[17:56] <penguin42> hey I run KDE on all machines - except in VMs when it's more random
[17:57] <penguin42> I reckon I should at least know what this Unity thing looks like so when someone asks I know where to look
[18:01] <BluesKaj> i gave up on that , tried that approach as well, but decided to leave it to the unity/gnome users
[18:22] <genii-around> Doing a do-release-upgrade -d from Raring, guess we'll see how it goes ;)
[18:25] <BluesKaj> genii-around, it was uneventful here , worked well
[18:26] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Mostly I'm wondering if I'll need to tinker with the nvidia stuff again
[18:27] <BluesKaj> not really, unless you want to
[18:27] <BluesKaj> genii-around,^
[18:28]  * BluesKaj takes a walk to the Cnada Post mailbox
[18:29] <BluesKaj> that's how the sign was spelled on our downtown post office for the whole winter
[18:33] <genii-around> The first "a" just fell off the sign or they forgot to put it in the first place?
[18:43] <penguin42> genii-around: eaten by a Moose
[18:44] <genii-around> Heh, maybe!
[18:52] <BluesKaj> genii-around, it fell off and din't bother replacing it til now , but it's a "very bilingue" office so theydin't give a damn
[19:21] <bjsnider> our canada post office went out of business
[19:21] <bjsnider> it's just a bunch of mailboxes outside in a park now
[19:23] <BluesKaj> we have those community mailboxes here, but we also have main post office for the area
[19:24] <genii-around> "supermailboxes"
[19:58] <snuggl> hm
[19:59] <snuggl> ops
[20:07] <BluesKaj> heh, google-earth works after insalling lsb-core and ia32-libs
[20:12] <johnjohn101> is that for 13.10? or for other versions?
[20:21] <BluesKaj> johnjohn101, yes 13.10
[20:23] <BluesKaj> johnjohn101, this one , google-earth-stable_current_amd64.deb
[20:25] <johnjohn101> i installed the beta from google from website and it worked on 13.04 but when i checked 13.10, those modules weren't loaded and doesn't seem to be any dependency on them at all.
[20:25] <johnjohn101> lsb-core not loaded but the ia32-libs are
[20:37] <BluesKaj> johnjohn101, use the stable google-earth version , you have to install lsb-core
[20:41] <johnjohn101> google earth 7.1.1.1580 is what i have
[20:42] <johnjohn101> google-earth-stable in synaptic
[20:45] <johnjohn101> hmm maybe lsb-core was already installed on my machine,
[20:49] <BluesKaj> Google Earth7.0.3.8542
[20:49] <BluesKaj> anyway it seems to work ok
[20:54] <johnjohn101> is google earth good for anything?
[20:58] <BluesKaj> i guess that depends on your interests in geography of the world etc , the google street view is pretty cool
[22:10] <FernandoMiguel> and my weather indicator just used an entire CPU core till it got killed
[22:10] <FernandoMiguel> nice going 13.10 :)
[22:10] <johnjohn101> i don't think that weather indicator has been working for sometime
[22:11] <FernandoMiguel> johnjohn101: mine is
[22:12] <johnjohn101> i meant, i think development has stopped on it
[22:12] <FernandoMiguel> oh
[22:12] <FernandoMiguel> :\
[22:12] <johnjohn101> sorry
[22:12] <FernandoMiguel> np
[22:12] <johnjohn101> mine WI crashes all the time on 12.04
[22:13] <johnjohn101> i just pull up my favorite website instead.
[22:13] <FernandoMiguel> I don't even know why I have the applet
[22:13] <FernandoMiguel> I don't even care about the weather
[22:14] <FernandoMiguel> I wonder how to remove it LOLOL
[22:14] <johnjohn101> have a good one