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| amitk | Sarvatt: you maintain the packages in xorg-edgers? | 06:46 |
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| jcapik | Hello guys. | 16:09 |
| jcapik | May I ask for help? | 16:09 |
| jcapik | I'm experiencing a strange harddrive performance issue | 16:09 |
| jcapik | The second harddrive has a poor performance with ubuntu kernels | 16:10 |
| jcapik | I've tested the same with mageia kernels and it works correctly | 16:10 |
| jcapik | hdparm says both drives are running under udma5 mode | 16:11 |
| bjf | jcapik, please file a bug | 16:11 |
| jcapik | bjf: filling bugs is painful | 16:11 |
| jcapik | bjf: I tried to create one for pulseaudio and it was marked as incomplete without any reaction | 16:11 |
| jcapik | bjf: that's why I search for help here | 16:12 |
| bjf | jcapik, usually, if a bug is marked incomplete it is because someone has asked you for more information and is waiting for you to provide it | 16:12 |
| jcapik | bjf: not in my case | 16:12 |
| jcapik | bjf: it was marked incomplete without any reaction | 16:13 |
| bjf | jcapik, bug # ? | 16:13 |
| jcapik | bjf: 1176528 | 16:14 |
| bjf | bug 1176528 | 16:15 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1176528 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Sound distorted with pulseaudio when the player volume gets over 97% (tested with audacious, vlc and mplayer)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1176528 | 16:15 |
| bjf | jcapik, i've changed it back to "New" and added a comment | 16:16 |
| bjf | jcapik, regarding your HD issue, i really do want a bug filed | 16:17 |
| jcapik | bjf: ok ... the problem is, that we're running Mint ... and the reporting tools do not work saying "it's 3rd party" bullshits | 16:18 |
| jcapik | bjf: in that case i'm unsure how to correctly report bugs against ubuntu components | 16:19 |
| bjf | jcapik, have you talked to the mint folks about your issue and how to file bugs against mint? | 16:19 |
| jcapik | bjf: the howto is incomplete | 16:19 |
| jcapik | bjf: yup .... they say .... if the component is taken from ubuntu, report the issue on the ubuntu BTS | 16:20 |
| jcapik | bjf: the components are taken unchanged | 16:20 |
| jcapik | bjf: and I'm pretty sure the issue is present even when running ubuntu | 16:20 |
| bjf | jcapik, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug | 16:21 |
| jcapik | bjf: ok .... I'm gonna create one | 16:22 |
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| ohsix | which parts do the reporting tools say are third party? | 16:38 |
| jcapik | bjf: bug 1176993 | 16:39 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1176993 in linux (Ubuntu) "Very poor performance of the 2nd UATA harddrive (works well with Mageia2 kernel)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1176993 | 16:39 |
| jcapik | bjf: is it sufficient? | 16:39 |
| bjf | looking | 16:39 |
| ohsix | if you're going to test random kernels, at least the upstream one can be verified :p | 16:40 |
| bjf | jcapik, a bot will hit the bug and ask for additional information. please follow it's directions | 16:40 |
| jcapik | bjf: ok ... thx | 16:40 |
| jcapik | ohsix: sorry .... i missed youre response | 16:45 |
| jcapik | ohsix: i believe it was the ubuntu-bug tool | 16:45 |
| jcapik | ohsix: i thought it could run correctly for ubuntu packages, but apparently not ... | 16:46 |
| ohsix | jcapik: but what package is it saying is invalid? | 16:48 |
| jcapik | ohsix: pulseaudio | 16:48 |
| jcapik | ohsix: but I've tested few more | 16:49 |
| jcapik | ohsix: the same result | 16:49 |
| jcapik | ohsix: maybe mint guys modified the reporting tools | 16:49 |
| jcapik | ohsix: to allow only mint packages to be reported | 16:49 |
| ohsix | they probably signed everything with a different key, and rebuilt stuff | 16:50 |
| jcapik | ohsix: nope | 16:50 |
| jcapik | ohsix: they don't rebuild | 16:50 |
| jcapik | ohsix: the distribution could be called mintubuntu :D | 16:50 |
| jcapik | ohsix: the packages are really taken unchanged | 16:50 |
| jcapik | ohsix: it's like that because of the repository priorities | 16:50 |
| jcapik | ohsix: the mint repository has a higher priority, than ubuntu ones | 16:51 |
| jcapik | ohsix: so ... if the package is present in the mint repo, it's taken from there ... otherwise it's taken from Ubuntu | 16:51 |
| ohsix | post the output of dpkg -s pulseaudio to a pastebin | 16:51 |
| jcapik | ohsix: http://pastebin.com/WnYc6PMN | 16:53 |
| ohsix | and what version of ubuntu does mint consider itself? | 16:57 |
| jcapik | ohsix: quantal | 16:58 |
| jcapik | ohsix: according to the apt sources | 16:58 |
| jcapik | mc | 16:59 |
| jcapik | ohsix: linuxmint priority 700, ubuntu priority 500 | 16:59 |
| jcapik | ohsix: lsb_release -rd returns the following | 17:01 |
| jcapik | Description: Linux Mint 14 Nadia | 17:01 |
| jcapik | Release: 14 | 17:01 |
| ohsix | well, i checked what i thought may matter, the reporting tools are doing some checking that i don't know about, you'd have to look into it if you want to bother; i wouldn't accept it as an answer from people (report to ubuntu BTS and the like) until they can give you a solid reason why the tools don't work | 17:05 |
| ohsix | it makes a lot of extra work for everyone to do it that way | 17:05 |
| jcapik | ohsix: I'm quite new into Mint and you know ... I'm still trying to find the best way of doing things .... one of them is bug reporting | 17:07 |
| ohsix | if you want kernels to test with, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ but it's probably not useful to speculate that you may, just that using a mageia one is extra annoying :p | 17:09 |
| jcapik | ohsix: I've tested Mageia2 kernels .... they work correctly | 17:09 |
| jcapik | ohsix: ant they're nearly upstream | 17:09 |
| jcapik | and | 17:09 |
| ohsix | think about what that means as information for a person trying to solve the bug though | 17:09 |
| jcapik | ohsix: ok :D | 17:10 |
| ohsix | it's less valuable, it might even be bad unless they do some work to verify what the mageia kernels are | 17:10 |
| jcapik | ohsix: I'm gonna test the ones from that link | 17:10 |
| jcapik | ohsix: which one do you recommend ? | 17:11 |
| jcapik | ohsix: there's plenty of kernels | 17:11 |
| jcapik | ohsix: don't know which one to start with :D | 17:12 |
| jcapik | ohsix: v3.5.7.11-quantal ? | 17:12 |
| ohsix | it depends on what you're testing, there are ones in daily/ that are very new, and there are some quantal ones that are new but not built as often | 17:12 |
| jcapik | ohsix: the problem is .... I'm connected remotely right now | 17:13 |
| jcapik | ohsix: if I kill the system with unbootable kernel, then somebody would have to go there and fix that | 17:13 |
| jcapik | ohsix: f..k that ... let's try :D | 17:14 |
| ohsix | jcapik: eeg, well there are things to check first | 17:14 |
| ohsix | jcapik: like if aspm is on and working | 17:14 |
| jcapik | ohsix: why ASPM ? | 17:15 |
| ohsix | because it could explain the performance difference, there are a few sata bits and bobs that could, check dmesg for the working / nonworking kernel | 17:16 |
| jcapik | ohsix: why the first harddrive runs well? | 17:16 |
| ohsix | the brands are different :] | 17:16 |
| jcapik | ohsix: yup they are .... | 17:17 |
| jcapik | ohsix: but the parameters seems the same | 17:17 |
| ohsix | it's conceivable if they were both the same model, or you had another one of the seagates in there they would act the same, if they did it would be a more clear indicator | 17:17 |
| ohsix | the kernel can make a difference, but it will be on terms of turning things like aspm on or off in different versions and for different reasons | 17:17 |
| jcapik | ohsix: stupid me .... i forgot to check dmesg | 17:18 |
| jcapik | ohsix: it seems the reason is there | 17:18 |
| jcapik | [ 2.126156] ata2.00: simplex DMA is claimed by other device, disabling DMA | 17:18 |
| jcapik | [ 2.192790] ata2.00: configured for PIO4 | 17:18 |
| ohsix | nice | 17:19 |
| ohsix | i dunno what simplex dma is, it might be something specific to that broadcom controller | 17:19 |
| jcapik | ohsix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/672426 | 17:22 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 672426 in linux (Ubuntu) "module pata_serverworks: [ 1.376745] ata2.00: simplex DMA is claimed by other device, disabling DMA, HDD is in PIO Mode" [Undecided,Expired] | 17:22 |
| jcapik | ohsix: it's Dell PowerEdge 600SC in our case | 17:22 |
| ohsix | it's weird that hdparm still showed it in udma5 | 17:22 |
| jcapik | ohsix: the bug expired for no activity | 17:22 |
| jcapik | ohsix: yup | 17:22 |
| jcapik | ohsix: that's it | 17:23 |
| jcapik | ohsix: I tried to change the Xfer mode, but it resulted in error | 17:23 |
| jcapik | ohsix: it seems the mainline kernel didn't boot | 17:40 |
| ohsix | :< i thought you stopped when you found out what was going on | 17:41 |
| jcapik | ohsix: after a short phone call, the system is up and running again | 17:46 |
| jcapik | ohsix: tested with the mainline kernel .... the same result | 17:46 |
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