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rickspencer3bobweaver, looking at your xmlistmodel question00:13
rickspencer3does it not work to simply end your query at /ProgramGuid/Channels/ChannelInfo" for the listmodel00:15
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dholbachgood morning06:42
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tsdgeost1mp_: ping09:38
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Guest3827Hello, is it possible to install "apps" on unity-next installed on a ubuntu 13.04 device?10:32
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YellowRozeHi. I thought I'd try the stuff out on my tf101 (asus transformer) and I've managed put the files on my device and booted up enough to get a login prompt (text mode so far).12:47
YellowRozeI can see with dmesg that ubuntu-session is respawning alot but I never get anything visual. Is there some logfile somewhere I can start poking in to see why it won't start?12:47
Safa_[A_boy]Hi, is there anyway to check that the tablet device allow unlocking the bootloader ?12:49
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rtg_rsalveti, ogra_: "phablet-flash -b" to an N4 (from a Precise workstation) works OK, but "phablet-flash --series saucy" seg faults.13:14
ogra_heh, we dont have downloadable images yet13:15
ogra_though --series called with a wrong arg should indeed not segfault ..13:15
rtg_ogra_, huh, guess maybe tahts why13:15
ogra_sergiusens, ^^^13:15
* ogra_ is just fiddling with a hacky way to provide saucy builds ... we are missing the cross toolchain and bionic in the archive to roll the boanry that needs to go into the update.zip ...13:17
sergiusensogra_: rtg_ probably is, will check on the series thing crashing and make the help better in stating that it should generally not be used13:17
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ogra_with luck we should have interim zips  tonight though13:17
sergiusensogra_: I can wrap the zip into the jenkins builds if it will take more time13:18
rtg_ogra_, cool, though it'll be Wednesday before I can test kernels. I'm traveling to Portland tomorrow.13:18
ogra_sergiusens, nah, we need the code on cdimage anyway13:18
ogra_its just that i have to create it out of boounds until we can build the binary content13:18
sergiusensogra_: yeah, I was suggesting jenkins to be the out of bounds ;-)13:19
sergiusensas an interim13:19
ogra_rtg_, well, yu can just use raring images and flip the sources.list13:19
ogra_sergiusens, so you would pull the tarball from nusakan (which you cant access) and do the zipping ?13:19
sergiusenstake into account that you will lose networking and telephony when you update13:19
ogra_yeah13:20
sergiusensright, I can't access nusakan... depending on how long it will take we can setup for it or not13:21
* sergiusens feels really tired13:21
* ogra_ too13:21
ogra_silly jetlag13:21
sergiusensyeah, don't feel I'll get much done today :-/13:21
* ogra_ doubts anyone expects that13:22
ogra_until wed. i'm operating on half power here too ... slightly raising over the days13:22
ogra_awww13:22
ogra_thats why my autodeploy.zip doesnt work ... heh13:23
* ogra_ changes it to not use ubuntu_tmp_foo/binary but just /ubuntu_tmp_foo in the mv ... 13:23
sergiusensogra_: it's the small things that always break :-)13:24
ogra_it would be so nice if it wouldnt just go into a reboot if it cant find /data/ubuntu13:24
ogra_so you could inspect without acrobatics on the buttons to get into recovery again13:24
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Miurahello guys, I'm with one doubt, can you help me?13:40
Miurai'm thinking of start developing for ubuntu touch, so.. one question.. do you guys test your apps on a emulator or directly in the phone?13:41
kenvandineMiura, i test on both my desktop and my nexus 713:42
MiuraHmm, thank you xP13:43
Miurasomeone know some team that is porting for galaxy s3?13:44
sergiusensogra_: hmmm, I wonder if changing the exit code for the update script would do the trick and block the reboot13:58
ogra_sergiusens, well, after the container flip it wont matter anymore14:17
ogra_yay, that worked14:20
sergiusensogra_: how's the container flip progressing?14:30
ogra_not started yet14:31
ogra_i need a working brain for that14:31
pmcgowanogra_, it seems the mtp remount thing is in the way of my flashing today14:31
pmcgowanis that possible?14:31
ogra_yeah14:31
pmcgowanit seems worse using the nexus 1014:31
pmcgowancant get the flash to go through14:32
pmcgowanogra_, did you find a workaround?14:32
rtg_pmcgowan, the only workaround I've discovered is to use a Precise workstation14:32
pmcgowanit was ok in quantal as well14:32
pmcgowanraring its like every 20 secs14:33
ogra_gimme a sec14:33
ogra_pmcgowan, move /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules out of the way14:35
ogra_(might need a reboot, not sure if udev caches anything)14:35
ogra_in raring mtp handling was fixed (was pretty broken before all the time) ...14:35
ogra_now we have a device that gets recognized as mtp device but doesnt have the device specific bits needed for the mounting14:36
ogra_there is also bug 116084714:37
ubot5bug 1160847 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "gvfs should not attempt to mount MTP devices in an endless loop (cluttering your desktop with messages)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116084714:37
seb128ogra_, we should look at the suggestion a) the upstream guy did on that bug, e.g making the device advertise that mtp handling is not activated14:39
pmcgowanogra_, seb128 agreed14:39
pmcgowanadded  a rule to skip the 1014:40
ogra_seb128, nope we should instead fix our devices14:40
ogra_like ... adding mtp support :)14:40
seb128I except that is going to be harder14:41
sergiusensseb128: ogra_ I'll see if I can make a change for tomorrow's build14:41
seb128ogra_, and people were saying at the sprint that mtp's server side is patented by MS14:41
ogra_sergiusens, that would need to happen in the ubuntu userspace i fear14:41
ogra_ugh14:41
niklasHey, is it possible to install the core apps on unity-next installed on 13.04??14:41
seb128sergiusens, do you know how to do that?14:41
sergiusensogra_: then it won't happen in tomorrow's build :-/14:41
ogra_sergiusens, well, if its trivial to provide from the android side, doit14:42
sergiusensseb128: I thought it was just an android property...14:42
seb128sergiusens, it could be14:42
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ogra_if its just a property, then yeah, just do it14:42
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niklasHey, is it possible to install the core apps on unity-next installed on 13.04??14:43
sergiusensseb128: ogra_ ok, if I can confirm it, I'll have it in tomorrow's build14:43
seb128sergiusens, thanks14:43
ogra_i would suspect that you need some lib stuff too though14:44
ogra_and if what seb128 said is true that might be problematic14:44
seb128ogra_, well, disabling mtp is not problematic, having a server implementation would be14:44
sergiusensogra_: I'll track it down14:45
seb128ogra_, but yeah, that was raised as an issue at the sprint, and something that needs to be looked at14:45
pmcgowansergiusens, I disabled the mtp for nexus 10 and now I get no permissions when I go to use adb?14:45
ogra_seb128, oh, i understood sergiusens wanted to enable it for the android side14:45
seb128ogra_, no, I think he wants to turn off the flag that advertise mtp support14:46
seb128well, that's what I understood14:46
pmcgowanogra_, did you actually try moving that rules file out of the way?14:47
ogra_pmcgowan, note that adb access is ruled by udev-acl14:47
ogra_how did you "disable the n10"14:47
pmcgowanmade a rule that said if id is n10 go to end14:47
ogra_pmcgowan, yes, i dont have it on my chromebook and the world is fine for me14:48
pmcgowanhmm, did not mount it or something14:48
ogra_i wonder if yoour new rule somehow makes it skip udev-acl support14:48
ogra_also, do you use adb from the archive ?14:49
pmcgowanlet me check should be14:50
ogra_(since that ships the udev-acl bits)14:50
pmcgowanyes14:51
pmcgowanfrom raring archive14:51
ogra_no sdk installed or some such14:51
pmcgowanogra_, nope14:51
ogra_then it should just work ... hmm14:51
ogra_(definitely does here with the g-nex)14:52
pmcgowanadded this line at the top of the rules file14:52
pmcgowanATTR{idVendor}=="18d1", ATTR{idProduct}=="4ee2", GOTO="libmtp_rules_end"14:52
pmcgowandoesnt make sense14:54
seb128pmcgowan, try to14:55
seb128run "adb kill-server" then "adb start-server"14:55
seb128sometimes the adb server seems to be in a buggy state14:56
pmcgowanseb128, tried that14:56
seb128ok...14:56
pmcgowanseb128, whats the first line in your /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules14:57
seb128Unable to open ~/.mtpz-data for reading, MTPZ disabled.# UDEV-style hotplug map for libmtp14:57
seb128# Put this file in /etc/udev/rules.d14:57
seb128ACTION!="add", GOTO="libmtp_rules_end"14:57
seb128"14:57
ogra_heh14:57
ogra_same here14:57
pmcgowanthat looks bad14:57
ogra_someone made soem mess there14:57
pmcgowannot my problem i suspect but not right14:58
ogra_iirc the rule is autogenerated during build14:58
ogra_so that error gets spit into that file14:58
ogra_yeah, itr shouldnt do any harm ... but is a wart14:58
seb128I will have a look14:58
seb128I was planning at doing the libmtp merge with debian this week anyway14:59
seb128but yeah, probably a different issue than the device not detected by adb one14:59
ogra_right14:59
ogra_pmcgowan, did you reboot after changing the rule ?14:59
pmcgowanogra_, yes14:59
pmcgowanrebooted then reinstered the devices15:00
pmcgowannetither 4 nor 10 can be accessed15:00
ogra_i suppose using sudo helps ?15:00
pmcgowannope15:01
ogra_now thats weird15:01
ogra_definitely should15:01
pmcgowanogra_, let me try rebooting, putting ti back etc15:01
sergiusensogra_: mumble15:03
ogra_oops !15:03
ogra_thanks15:03
pmcgowanogra_, seb128 so it works if I sudo adb startserver15:06
pmcgowannever had to before15:06
ogra_yeah and you shouldnt15:07
ogra_works fine for me on raring here15:07
pmcgowanogra_, and you removed the file completely?15:08
ogra_yup15:08
ogra_nothing else15:08
pmcgowanweird15:08
pmcgowanI have no more annoying popups and managed to flash15:08
pmcgowanbut not right15:08
ogra_definitely not15:08
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sergiusenscyphermox: hey, I added a comment to https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/phablet-tools/fastboot-flashing/+merge/16242419:11
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cyphermoxsergiusens: cool thanks19:22
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Simon_Simon_London19:45
Simon_Hi All. Can I please get some advice on installing on my Nexus 4 When I attempt to install it I get the following "not enough space in /data found 2.7g" Any help would be really appriciated19:47
ahkuoiduring flash of Nexus 7 on step 3 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install 3.3 Plug the device into the computer via the USB cable.  Depending on the installed Android version, a popup will show up on the device with the host key that needs to be accepted for the device to communicate with the workstation.   *this wont show up * usb debugging is on.....build is 4.2.2... any help? i want ubuntu  thanks20:07
sergiusensplars: hey, you avail for a quick test?20:15
* sergiusens has no mako20:15
plarssergiusens: sure20:15
tassadar_ahkuoi: try to type in "adb devices" to the terminal and see if your nexus 7 is listed as a "device" or as "offline"20:15
sergiusensplars: http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/boot_mako.img it's the boot img with the saucy kernel instead of raring20:16
sergiusensplars: just fastboot flash boot boot_mako.img20:16
ahkuoiyes it is listed20:16
tassadar_it depens what is the word after serial number - is it "device" or "offline"?20:17
plarssergiusens: sure, grabbing it now20:17
ahkuoioffline20:18
sergiusensty20:18
tassadar_that's bad, it mean adb is not authentiticated20:18
ahkuoioh  so what should i do20:19
tassadar_I suppose you've tried to re-plug the USB connector, right? I don't use 4.2.2, so I'm not familiar with this a lot20:19
plarssergiusens: Linux ubuntu-phablet 3.4.0-1-mako #6-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Sat May 4 00:58:12 UTC 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux20:19
ahkuoiyes i did it thanks for your help  "tassadar"20:20
cyphermoxahkuoi: when you do so there should be a dialog appearing on the phone to authenticate the device20:21
cyphermoxahkuoi: otherwise, you might be running an outdated version of adb20:21
ahkuoino dialog is appearing thats the problem20:21
ahkuoiso how to get/update new version20:22
plarssergiusens: that doesn't look like the right version20:25
ahkuoiThankyou all of you for your help. Bye20:27
sergiusensplars: from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-mako/+bug/1176255 it seems to be correct though20:28
ubot5Launchpad bug 1176255 in linux-mako (Ubuntu) "linux-mako fails to boot when built with gcc 4.8" [High,New]20:28
sergiusensplars: am I correct or jetlagged? :-)20:34
ZDmitrymhall119|away: ping20:39
mhall119|awayZDmitry: pong20:42
plarssergiusens: shouldn't saucy be 3.9.?20:42
ZDmitryI'm just done with latest revision of plugin and app of ubuntu-terminal20:43
mhall119|awayZDmitry: are there merge proposals you need reviewed?20:43
ZDmitryYes. And that are plugin and app.20:44
mhall119|awayZDmitry: ok, I'll give them a look20:46
mhall119|awaythanks20:46
ZDmitrynoting about20:47
sergiusensplars: for desktop perhaps ;-)20:47
sergiusensplars: this is the kernel from the android tree in an ubuntu package20:47
mhall119|awayZDmitry: is the work you're doing on this konsole plugin being submitted back upstream?20:49
ZDmitrymhall119|away: If You  mean my original branch - no.20:52
plarssergiusens: ah, right, this is the "saucy" android one :)20:53
plarssergiusens: anyway, boots fine, seems to be doing ok so far20:54
plarswifi works, etc20:54
sergiusensplars: great!20:54
mhall119|awayZDmitry: it would be a good idea to let the konsole developers know what you're working on, and offer your code to them20:56
mhall119|awaya re-usable terminal widget in QML would be useful to a number of projects, not just the ubuntu-terminal-app20:56
ZDmitryThen I'll inform them.20:58
ZDmitrymhall119|away: I have some doubts about extra virtual keys which I added in ubuntu-terminal-app. They built on Button components, so label is autohiding. Can we do something with that? On small screen they has worst look than on PC.21:04
mhall119|awayZDmitry: dude, this is incredible stuff21:11
ZDmitrymhall119|away: ^^21:12
ZDmitryoff course, it would be better to have additional layout on VKB, but we have what we have so!21:14
mhall119|awayZDmitry: they're functional as-is, we can fix the look later21:14
ZDmitrythat's true21:14
mhall119|awayZDmitry: if you can change the debian/changelog on ubuntu-terminal-app to http://paste.ubuntu.com/5639735/ I will approve them21:17
ZDmitryok, wait a minute21:17
mhall119|awaythanks21:21
mhall119|awaythanks ZDmitry21:24
mhall119|awayapproved21:24
ZDmitrymhall119|away:  no problem21:25
sergiusensveebers: hey!22:00
veeberssergiusens: hello :-)22:01
sergiusensveebers: do you have the annoying mtp message on raring?22:02
sergiusensveebers: if so, what device?22:02
veeberssergiusens: yes22:02
veeberssergiusens: nexus 722:02
sergiusensveebers: ok, can you test a build for me in a minute or so?22:02
veeberssergiusens: sure22:02
sergiusensveebers: thanks, give me a sec and I'll provide link22:04
ZDmitrymhall119|away: Jenkins waits for approval on https://code.launchpad.net/~hiroshidi/ubuntu-terminal-app/plugin-20130503/+merge/162666 to start autolanding. Latest ubuntu-terminal-app already landed and require latest plugin for proper work.22:24
sergiusensveebers: http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/mtp/cm-10.1-20130506-UNOFFICIAL-grouper.zip22:35
sergiusensom26er: that's an mzanetti thing, I keep it in my .ssh/config22:36
veeberssergiusens: cool, grabbing it now22:38
veeberssergiusens: ping22:50
sergiusensveebers: pong23:03
veeberssergiusens: hmm, after pushing and reboot recovery I get a blank screen. adb devices shows: ????????????no permissions23:22
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sergiusensveebers: try and restart adb23:54

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