rickspencer3 | bobweaver, looking at your xmlistmodel question | 00:13 |
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rickspencer3 | does it not work to simply end your query at /ProgramGuid/Channels/ChannelInfo" for the listmodel | 00:15 |
rickspencer3 | ? | 00:15 |
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raj_ | hi | 05:03 |
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dholbach | good morning | 06:42 |
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tsdgeos | t1mp_: ping | 09:38 |
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Guest3827 | Hello, is it possible to install "apps" on unity-next installed on a ubuntu 13.04 device? | 10:32 |
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YellowRoze | Hi. I thought I'd try the stuff out on my tf101 (asus transformer) and I've managed put the files on my device and booted up enough to get a login prompt (text mode so far). | 12:47 |
YellowRoze | I can see with dmesg that ubuntu-session is respawning alot but I never get anything visual. Is there some logfile somewhere I can start poking in to see why it won't start? | 12:47 |
Safa_[A_boy] | Hi, is there anyway to check that the tablet device allow unlocking the bootloader ? | 12:49 |
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rtg_ | rsalveti, ogra_: "phablet-flash -b" to an N4 (from a Precise workstation) works OK, but "phablet-flash --series saucy" seg faults. | 13:14 |
ogra_ | heh, we dont have downloadable images yet | 13:15 |
ogra_ | though --series called with a wrong arg should indeed not segfault .. | 13:15 |
rtg_ | ogra_, huh, guess maybe tahts why | 13:15 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, ^^^ | 13:15 |
* ogra_ is just fiddling with a hacky way to provide saucy builds ... we are missing the cross toolchain and bionic in the archive to roll the boanry that needs to go into the update.zip ... | 13:17 | |
sergiusens | ogra_: rtg_ probably is, will check on the series thing crashing and make the help better in stating that it should generally not be used | 13:17 |
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ogra_ | with luck we should have interim zips tonight though | 13:17 |
sergiusens | ogra_: I can wrap the zip into the jenkins builds if it will take more time | 13:18 |
rtg_ | ogra_, cool, though it'll be Wednesday before I can test kernels. I'm traveling to Portland tomorrow. | 13:18 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, nah, we need the code on cdimage anyway | 13:18 |
ogra_ | its just that i have to create it out of boounds until we can build the binary content | 13:18 |
sergiusens | ogra_: yeah, I was suggesting jenkins to be the out of bounds ;-) | 13:19 |
sergiusens | as an interim | 13:19 |
ogra_ | rtg_, well, yu can just use raring images and flip the sources.list | 13:19 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, so you would pull the tarball from nusakan (which you cant access) and do the zipping ? | 13:19 |
sergiusens | take into account that you will lose networking and telephony when you update | 13:19 |
ogra_ | yeah | 13:20 |
sergiusens | right, I can't access nusakan... depending on how long it will take we can setup for it or not | 13:21 |
* sergiusens feels really tired | 13:21 | |
* ogra_ too | 13:21 | |
ogra_ | silly jetlag | 13:21 |
sergiusens | yeah, don't feel I'll get much done today :-/ | 13:21 |
* ogra_ doubts anyone expects that | 13:22 | |
ogra_ | until wed. i'm operating on half power here too ... slightly raising over the days | 13:22 |
ogra_ | awww | 13:22 |
ogra_ | thats why my autodeploy.zip doesnt work ... heh | 13:23 |
* ogra_ changes it to not use ubuntu_tmp_foo/binary but just /ubuntu_tmp_foo in the mv ... | 13:23 | |
sergiusens | ogra_: it's the small things that always break :-) | 13:24 |
ogra_ | it would be so nice if it wouldnt just go into a reboot if it cant find /data/ubuntu | 13:24 |
ogra_ | so you could inspect without acrobatics on the buttons to get into recovery again | 13:24 |
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Miura | hello guys, I'm with one doubt, can you help me? | 13:40 |
Miura | i'm thinking of start developing for ubuntu touch, so.. one question.. do you guys test your apps on a emulator or directly in the phone? | 13:41 |
kenvandine | Miura, i test on both my desktop and my nexus 7 | 13:42 |
Miura | Hmm, thank you xP | 13:43 |
Miura | someone know some team that is porting for galaxy s3? | 13:44 |
sergiusens | ogra_: hmmm, I wonder if changing the exit code for the update script would do the trick and block the reboot | 13:58 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, well, after the container flip it wont matter anymore | 14:17 |
ogra_ | yay, that worked | 14:20 |
sergiusens | ogra_: how's the container flip progressing? | 14:30 |
ogra_ | not started yet | 14:31 |
ogra_ | i need a working brain for that | 14:31 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, it seems the mtp remount thing is in the way of my flashing today | 14:31 |
pmcgowan | is that possible? | 14:31 |
ogra_ | yeah | 14:31 |
pmcgowan | it seems worse using the nexus 10 | 14:31 |
pmcgowan | cant get the flash to go through | 14:32 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, did you find a workaround? | 14:32 |
rtg_ | pmcgowan, the only workaround I've discovered is to use a Precise workstation | 14:32 |
pmcgowan | it was ok in quantal as well | 14:32 |
pmcgowan | raring its like every 20 secs | 14:33 |
ogra_ | gimme a sec | 14:33 |
ogra_ | pmcgowan, move /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules out of the way | 14:35 |
ogra_ | (might need a reboot, not sure if udev caches anything) | 14:35 |
ogra_ | in raring mtp handling was fixed (was pretty broken before all the time) ... | 14:35 |
ogra_ | now we have a device that gets recognized as mtp device but doesnt have the device specific bits needed for the mounting | 14:36 |
ogra_ | there is also bug 1160847 | 14:37 |
ubot5 | bug 1160847 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "gvfs should not attempt to mount MTP devices in an endless loop (cluttering your desktop with messages)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1160847 | 14:37 |
seb128 | ogra_, we should look at the suggestion a) the upstream guy did on that bug, e.g making the device advertise that mtp handling is not activated | 14:39 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, seb128 agreed | 14:39 |
pmcgowan | added a rule to skip the 10 | 14:40 |
ogra_ | seb128, nope we should instead fix our devices | 14:40 |
ogra_ | like ... adding mtp support :) | 14:40 |
seb128 | I except that is going to be harder | 14:41 |
sergiusens | seb128: ogra_ I'll see if I can make a change for tomorrow's build | 14:41 |
seb128 | ogra_, and people were saying at the sprint that mtp's server side is patented by MS | 14:41 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, that would need to happen in the ubuntu userspace i fear | 14:41 |
ogra_ | ugh | 14:41 |
niklas | Hey, is it possible to install the core apps on unity-next installed on 13.04?? | 14:41 |
seb128 | sergiusens, do you know how to do that? | 14:41 |
sergiusens | ogra_: then it won't happen in tomorrow's build :-/ | 14:41 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, well, if its trivial to provide from the android side, doit | 14:42 |
sergiusens | seb128: I thought it was just an android property... | 14:42 |
seb128 | sergiusens, it could be | 14:42 |
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ogra_ | if its just a property, then yeah, just do it | 14:42 |
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niklas | Hey, is it possible to install the core apps on unity-next installed on 13.04?? | 14:43 |
sergiusens | seb128: ogra_ ok, if I can confirm it, I'll have it in tomorrow's build | 14:43 |
seb128 | sergiusens, thanks | 14:43 |
ogra_ | i would suspect that you need some lib stuff too though | 14:44 |
ogra_ | and if what seb128 said is true that might be problematic | 14:44 |
seb128 | ogra_, well, disabling mtp is not problematic, having a server implementation would be | 14:44 |
sergiusens | ogra_: I'll track it down | 14:45 |
seb128 | ogra_, but yeah, that was raised as an issue at the sprint, and something that needs to be looked at | 14:45 |
pmcgowan | sergiusens, I disabled the mtp for nexus 10 and now I get no permissions when I go to use adb? | 14:45 |
ogra_ | seb128, oh, i understood sergiusens wanted to enable it for the android side | 14:45 |
seb128 | ogra_, no, I think he wants to turn off the flag that advertise mtp support | 14:46 |
seb128 | well, that's what I understood | 14:46 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, did you actually try moving that rules file out of the way? | 14:47 |
ogra_ | pmcgowan, note that adb access is ruled by udev-acl | 14:47 |
ogra_ | how did you "disable the n10" | 14:47 |
pmcgowan | made a rule that said if id is n10 go to end | 14:47 |
ogra_ | pmcgowan, yes, i dont have it on my chromebook and the world is fine for me | 14:48 |
pmcgowan | hmm, did not mount it or something | 14:48 |
ogra_ | i wonder if yoour new rule somehow makes it skip udev-acl support | 14:48 |
ogra_ | also, do you use adb from the archive ? | 14:49 |
pmcgowan | let me check should be | 14:50 |
ogra_ | (since that ships the udev-acl bits) | 14:50 |
pmcgowan | yes | 14:51 |
pmcgowan | from raring archive | 14:51 |
ogra_ | no sdk installed or some such | 14:51 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, nope | 14:51 |
ogra_ | then it should just work ... hmm | 14:51 |
ogra_ | (definitely does here with the g-nex) | 14:52 |
pmcgowan | added this line at the top of the rules file | 14:52 |
pmcgowan | ATTR{idVendor}=="18d1", ATTR{idProduct}=="4ee2", GOTO="libmtp_rules_end" | 14:52 |
pmcgowan | doesnt make sense | 14:54 |
seb128 | pmcgowan, try to | 14:55 |
seb128 | run "adb kill-server" then "adb start-server" | 14:55 |
seb128 | sometimes the adb server seems to be in a buggy state | 14:56 |
pmcgowan | seb128, tried that | 14:56 |
seb128 | ok... | 14:56 |
pmcgowan | seb128, whats the first line in your /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules | 14:57 |
seb128 | Unable to open ~/.mtpz-data for reading, MTPZ disabled.# UDEV-style hotplug map for libmtp | 14:57 |
seb128 | # Put this file in /etc/udev/rules.d | 14:57 |
seb128 | ACTION!="add", GOTO="libmtp_rules_end" | 14:57 |
seb128 | " | 14:57 |
ogra_ | heh | 14:57 |
ogra_ | same here | 14:57 |
pmcgowan | that looks bad | 14:57 |
ogra_ | someone made soem mess there | 14:57 |
pmcgowan | not my problem i suspect but not right | 14:58 |
ogra_ | iirc the rule is autogenerated during build | 14:58 |
ogra_ | so that error gets spit into that file | 14:58 |
ogra_ | yeah, itr shouldnt do any harm ... but is a wart | 14:58 |
seb128 | I will have a look | 14:58 |
seb128 | I was planning at doing the libmtp merge with debian this week anyway | 14:59 |
seb128 | but yeah, probably a different issue than the device not detected by adb one | 14:59 |
ogra_ | right | 14:59 |
ogra_ | pmcgowan, did you reboot after changing the rule ? | 14:59 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, yes | 14:59 |
pmcgowan | rebooted then reinstered the devices | 15:00 |
pmcgowan | netither 4 nor 10 can be accessed | 15:00 |
ogra_ | i suppose using sudo helps ? | 15:00 |
pmcgowan | nope | 15:01 |
ogra_ | now thats weird | 15:01 |
ogra_ | definitely should | 15:01 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, let me try rebooting, putting ti back etc | 15:01 |
sergiusens | ogra_: mumble | 15:03 |
ogra_ | oops ! | 15:03 |
ogra_ | thanks | 15:03 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, seb128 so it works if I sudo adb startserver | 15:06 |
pmcgowan | never had to before | 15:06 |
ogra_ | yeah and you shouldnt | 15:07 |
ogra_ | works fine for me on raring here | 15:07 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, and you removed the file completely? | 15:08 |
ogra_ | yup | 15:08 |
ogra_ | nothing else | 15:08 |
pmcgowan | weird | 15:08 |
pmcgowan | I have no more annoying popups and managed to flash | 15:08 |
pmcgowan | but not right | 15:08 |
ogra_ | definitely not | 15:08 |
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sergiusens | cyphermox: hey, I added a comment to https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/phablet-tools/fastboot-flashing/+merge/162424 | 19:11 |
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cyphermox | sergiusens: cool thanks | 19:22 |
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Simon_ | Simon_London | 19:45 |
Simon_ | Hi All. Can I please get some advice on installing on my Nexus 4 When I attempt to install it I get the following "not enough space in /data found 2.7g" Any help would be really appriciated | 19:47 |
ahkuoi | during flash of Nexus 7 on step 3 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install 3.3 Plug the device into the computer via the USB cable. Depending on the installed Android version, a popup will show up on the device with the host key that needs to be accepted for the device to communicate with the workstation. *this wont show up * usb debugging is on.....build is 4.2.2... any help? i want ubuntu thanks | 20:07 |
sergiusens | plars: hey, you avail for a quick test? | 20:15 |
* sergiusens has no mako | 20:15 | |
plars | sergiusens: sure | 20:15 |
tassadar_ | ahkuoi: try to type in "adb devices" to the terminal and see if your nexus 7 is listed as a "device" or as "offline" | 20:15 |
sergiusens | plars: http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/boot_mako.img it's the boot img with the saucy kernel instead of raring | 20:16 |
sergiusens | plars: just fastboot flash boot boot_mako.img | 20:16 |
ahkuoi | yes it is listed | 20:16 |
tassadar_ | it depens what is the word after serial number - is it "device" or "offline"? | 20:17 |
plars | sergiusens: sure, grabbing it now | 20:17 |
ahkuoi | offline | 20:18 |
sergiusens | ty | 20:18 |
tassadar_ | that's bad, it mean adb is not authentiticated | 20:18 |
ahkuoi | oh so what should i do | 20:19 |
tassadar_ | I suppose you've tried to re-plug the USB connector, right? I don't use 4.2.2, so I'm not familiar with this a lot | 20:19 |
plars | sergiusens: Linux ubuntu-phablet 3.4.0-1-mako #6-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Sat May 4 00:58:12 UTC 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux | 20:19 |
ahkuoi | yes i did it thanks for your help "tassadar" | 20:20 |
cyphermox | ahkuoi: when you do so there should be a dialog appearing on the phone to authenticate the device | 20:21 |
cyphermox | ahkuoi: otherwise, you might be running an outdated version of adb | 20:21 |
ahkuoi | no dialog is appearing thats the problem | 20:21 |
ahkuoi | so how to get/update new version | 20:22 |
plars | sergiusens: that doesn't look like the right version | 20:25 |
ahkuoi | Thankyou all of you for your help. Bye | 20:27 |
sergiusens | plars: from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-mako/+bug/1176255 it seems to be correct though | 20:28 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1176255 in linux-mako (Ubuntu) "linux-mako fails to boot when built with gcc 4.8" [High,New] | 20:28 |
sergiusens | plars: am I correct or jetlagged? :-) | 20:34 |
ZDmitry | mhall119|away: ping | 20:39 |
mhall119|away | ZDmitry: pong | 20:42 |
plars | sergiusens: shouldn't saucy be 3.9.? | 20:42 |
ZDmitry | I'm just done with latest revision of plugin and app of ubuntu-terminal | 20:43 |
mhall119|away | ZDmitry: are there merge proposals you need reviewed? | 20:43 |
ZDmitry | Yes. And that are plugin and app. | 20:44 |
mhall119|away | ZDmitry: ok, I'll give them a look | 20:46 |
mhall119|away | thanks | 20:46 |
ZDmitry | noting about | 20:47 |
sergiusens | plars: for desktop perhaps ;-) | 20:47 |
sergiusens | plars: this is the kernel from the android tree in an ubuntu package | 20:47 |
mhall119|away | ZDmitry: is the work you're doing on this konsole plugin being submitted back upstream? | 20:49 |
ZDmitry | mhall119|away: If You mean my original branch - no. | 20:52 |
plars | sergiusens: ah, right, this is the "saucy" android one :) | 20:53 |
plars | sergiusens: anyway, boots fine, seems to be doing ok so far | 20:54 |
plars | wifi works, etc | 20:54 |
sergiusens | plars: great! | 20:54 |
mhall119|away | ZDmitry: it would be a good idea to let the konsole developers know what you're working on, and offer your code to them | 20:56 |
mhall119|away | a re-usable terminal widget in QML would be useful to a number of projects, not just the ubuntu-terminal-app | 20:56 |
ZDmitry | Then I'll inform them. | 20:58 |
ZDmitry | mhall119|away: I have some doubts about extra virtual keys which I added in ubuntu-terminal-app. They built on Button components, so label is autohiding. Can we do something with that? On small screen they has worst look than on PC. | 21:04 |
mhall119|away | ZDmitry: dude, this is incredible stuff | 21:11 |
ZDmitry | mhall119|away: ^^ | 21:12 |
ZDmitry | off course, it would be better to have additional layout on VKB, but we have what we have so! | 21:14 |
mhall119|away | ZDmitry: they're functional as-is, we can fix the look later | 21:14 |
ZDmitry | that's true | 21:14 |
mhall119|away | ZDmitry: if you can change the debian/changelog on ubuntu-terminal-app to http://paste.ubuntu.com/5639735/ I will approve them | 21:17 |
ZDmitry | ok, wait a minute | 21:17 |
mhall119|away | thanks | 21:21 |
mhall119|away | thanks ZDmitry | 21:24 |
mhall119|away | approved | 21:24 |
ZDmitry | mhall119|away: no problem | 21:25 |
sergiusens | veebers: hey! | 22:00 |
veebers | sergiusens: hello :-) | 22:01 |
sergiusens | veebers: do you have the annoying mtp message on raring? | 22:02 |
sergiusens | veebers: if so, what device? | 22:02 |
veebers | sergiusens: yes | 22:02 |
veebers | sergiusens: nexus 7 | 22:02 |
sergiusens | veebers: ok, can you test a build for me in a minute or so? | 22:02 |
veebers | sergiusens: sure | 22:02 |
sergiusens | veebers: thanks, give me a sec and I'll provide link | 22:04 |
ZDmitry | mhall119|away: Jenkins waits for approval on https://code.launchpad.net/~hiroshidi/ubuntu-terminal-app/plugin-20130503/+merge/162666 to start autolanding. Latest ubuntu-terminal-app already landed and require latest plugin for proper work. | 22:24 |
sergiusens | veebers: http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/mtp/cm-10.1-20130506-UNOFFICIAL-grouper.zip | 22:35 |
sergiusens | om26er: that's an mzanetti thing, I keep it in my .ssh/config | 22:36 |
veebers | sergiusens: cool, grabbing it now | 22:38 |
veebers | sergiusens: ping | 22:50 |
sergiusens | veebers: pong | 23:03 |
veebers | sergiusens: hmm, after pushing and reboot recovery I get a blank screen. adb devices shows: ????????????no permissions | 23:22 |
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sergiusens | veebers: try and restart adb | 23:54 |
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