[00:12] party party [00:18] what kind of party? [00:18] CA kind of party [00:18] in oakland...which actually kinda looks like DTW [00:19] except more people [00:19] oh right. [00:19] what U doing there? [00:19] sprints this week [00:19] well, something, planning sprints more than coding sprints I guess [00:20] and wondering around some china-town like area [00:20] I just got back from CA, rick_h_ [00:20] widox_: booo! [00:20] Detroit looked a lot cleaner than I remembered [00:20] widox_: have fun? [00:20] jrwren, they were holding the UDS that was canceled [00:20] yeah, good times [00:20] but just w/ Canonical employees and no community [00:20] yay detroit! [00:23] Detroit and clean are generally not synonyms [00:23] brousch must have bad glasses =P [00:23] It was all highways and Cobo Center [00:24] Usually 94 and 696 are littered with poorly cleaned up accidents and exploded truck tires [00:24] It was clean and light traffic [00:30] btw: Meeting in a half hour [00:30] might be alittle late because I just got in from mowing lawn [00:30] but it'll be a short meeting [00:31] downtown is pretty clean. [00:32] esp. cobo, jefferson, woodward, washington. [00:32] leave those streets and its not so clean. [00:58] Going to get the meeting started in 2 minutes [01:00] Evening, everyone. [01:00] Welcome to the May Ubuntu Michigan Meeting [01:00] I completely forgot to set an agenda for this meeting. :) [01:00] But there's also little to cover [01:00] So ley [01:01] So, let's get started. [01:01] Who all is on the line? [01:01] Feel free to ping as we go along. [01:01] First order of business: 13.04 release party [01:01] Thanks to everyone who came out to the release party [01:02] I understnad there wasn't anything in the program, and for that I apologize [01:02] It unfortunately kept a few people who would otherwise have attended from showing up. [01:02] Hopefully if we decide to have it again at Penguicon, we'll manage it better [01:03] Speaking of Penguicon, this year was quite awesome. [01:03] The Hotel was awesome, and the Penguicon folks put on a hell of a show on short notice. [01:03] huge kudos to everyone involved. [01:04] Anything about the release party that anyone would like t comment on? [01:04] snap-l, did anyone try to contact the Penguicon folks? [01:04] Also, did anyone else have a release party in MI? [01:04] several people asked me for discs :) [01:04] It's squarely on my shoulders that we didn't get on the program [01:04] I should have thought to ensure it was on the schedule [01:05] #1 priority: Find someone to blame. [01:05] * waldo323 takes some of it [01:05] We had a good time anyway. [01:06] In previous years we've not had anything in the program, but it seems there were an inordinate amount of folks who didn't know where it was [01:07] Regardless, it was a great time [01:07] and $4 microbrews = A+ [01:07] although that Percolater porter was F- [01:07] apparently the tiki bar was a new idea the week of the con, i think we were originally going to be on the other side of the fireplace right? [01:07] http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1754/7178 [01:09] I thought so, but the Tiki Bar was a great touch [01:09] indeed [01:09] They really accomidated everyone [01:10] except those wanting a dull and very quiet time? [01:10] heh [01:10] Anywho, moving on. :) [01:10] Re receifed our bug for reapproval [01:10] We, rather [01:10] and per our discussion last month, I have marked the bug as invalid. [01:11] aka: we're not going to shoot for reapproval. [01:11] No, that doesn't mean we're not going to shoot for staying active [01:11] active != approval [01:11] That is what we said. [01:12] but frankly the approval process is cumbersome, and offers no benefit [01:13] i'd rather we spent more time being active than working on being approved [01:13] So we're committed to being unapproved. [01:13] Rebellious. :) [01:13] unshackled [01:13] We'll see where that lands us, but I'm confident we'll manage to stay awesome. [01:14] And hopefully lead by example of how we can still be awesome and not require the approval process [01:14] Frankly, it needs to end sooner than later [01:17] Any questions for concerns? [01:17] Nope. [01:17] not at the moment [01:17] OK, that's all I have at the moment [01:17] so if there isn't anything else, we'll call this puppy adjourned [01:17] Cool. [01:18] Oh, one last thing: all of the physical media is gone from our group [01:18] * waldo323 pets adjourned [01:18] so if you want any more discs, um... you'll have to buy it from Canonical [01:18] that sounds like a good thing [01:18] 'cuz there ain't no more. [01:18] yeah, that's a relief [01:19] OK, meeting really adjourned. :) [01:19] Thank you all for attending. :) [01:19] * waldo323 waves [01:19] Off to watch Doctor Who. :) [01:19] haha nice [01:29] Did I miss the meeting? [01:30] Oh, yeah, there it is... meeting adjourned 13 minutes ago :-p [01:37] I have craploads of old discs [11:57] Good morning [11:57] yes [11:58] I had about 25 people at my Kivy talk. That's the biggest crowd yet. They were almost all Python developers and Android users [11:59] That's awesome. [11:59] Was it recorded? [11:59] No [12:00] I want to do it in a 2 parter for PyOhio [12:00] Pt 1: Intro to Kivy. Pt 2: Kivy on Android [12:00] 50 minutes isn't enough time to cover both well [12:02] Yeah, I could easily see that being the case === nullspac1 is now known as nullspace [13:55] The worst thing about the conference was that they served asparagus for lunch. Crowded bathrooms and asparagus piss is not pleasant [14:02] wow [14:02] that just sounds disgustting [14:06] hehe [14:55] That sounds... um... awesome? [14:55] I don't understand why they removed some of the keyboard shortcuts such as F3 from nautilis [14:56] flipsidecreation: The devs don't use them, so neither should you [14:56] in 13.04 [14:57] apparently Even the change kybd shortcuts are gone. I have to use a mouse like some sort of Micro$oft user! [14:57] morning [14:57] how we all doing? [14:57] *err change view shortcuts [14:58] morning rick_h_ [14:58] <77CAA2O6H> g'morn [14:58] <77CAA2O6H> wait, what? [14:59] hah [14:59] I've joined the greg-g west coast contingent of the loco [14:59] morning at lunch [14:59] <77CAA2O6H> :) [14:59] <77CAA2O6H> but g-damn, what's with my nick [15:00] test [15:00] whew [15:01] received [15:01] I knew it! greg-g is a bot! [15:01] flipsidecreation: I didn't realize that was a shortcut [15:02] (F3 in Nautilus) [15:02] It likely happened on the GNOME side [15:02] brousch: ssshhhhh [15:02] Since you can get something similar with tabbed or windowed browsing [15:02] rick_h_: so, how busy are ya'll? [15:02] greg-g: just getting started but looks like going to be a fun week :/ [15:03] I hear they're working on their elevator pitches. :) [15:03] I have a general "meet up with jcastro sometime this week" thing in my calendar [15:03] woke up at 4:30am and managed to resleep until 6am so early [15:03] might as well add you in there, too ;) [15:03] rick_h_: nice [15:03] greg-g: yea, I did a chat with him on the way here. [15:03] greg-g: told him to make sure he lets me know when he sets it up [15:03] I woke up at 6:30, carrie and rowan were still asleep, so I just got up and left for work [15:03] greg-g: heh, yea. Sometimes don't fight it, just get up and get going. [15:03] rick_h_: awesome, Ryan Lane, our OpenStack guru here will probably join [15:03] greg-g: very cool [15:04] snap-l: I missed that: elevator pitches? [15:04] !weather [15:04] bah [15:04] we need a bot [15:04] Yeah, apparently they're having problems with the elevator at the hotel? [15:05] did someone say openstack guru? [15:05] I need one [15:05] heh [15:05] greg-g: so a guy I know is looking for a wikipedia expert for some work? Do you guys do/associate with those kinds? [15:05] jrwren: everyone does [15:05] snap-l: oh, that sucks [15:06] rick_h_: depending on what you mean, yeah [15:06] rick_h_: someone to do mediawiki (the software) dev/support/whatever, yeah [15:06] rick_h_: someone to help with the wikipedia project content, less so me, but I know who knows [15:07] yea, I think they're trying to do some stuff with their mediawiki stuff [15:08] cool yeah [15:08] ryan lane did the conversion from moinmoin of the openstack wiki to medaiwiki [15:08] Current conditions at Detroit City Airport, MI (KDET) [15:08] Last updated May 06, 2013 - 10:53 AM EDT / 2013.05.06 1453 UTC [15:08] Temperature: 61.0 F (16.1 C) [15:08] Relative Humidity: 51% [15:08] Wind: from the E (090 degrees) at 9 MPH (8 KT) [15:08] Sky conditions: clear [15:09] Thank you Al Roker [15:09] heh [15:09] greg-g: cool, shoot me an email with contact info sometime if you get a sec and I'll forward it along. [15:10] rick_h_: so, jcastro already asked about the conversion of ubuntu wiki, I don't think Ryan has the time to do another one right now, but, there is a mailing list (heh, sorry) of people who do mediawiki consulting that is a good place to hit up [15:11] rick_h_: unless it is something differetnt you're thinking of ;) [15:11] greg-g: ah that'd be cool I guess [15:11] greg-g: it's just a friend. He runs a local company that does home theater installs/etc [15:11] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-enterprise [15:11] and we were talking yesterday and he asked if I knew anyone that did mediawiki consulting because they need some help with their stuff [15:11] ohhhhh, I see [15:11] so this is non-canonical/etc [15:11] gotcha [15:11] just friend stuff [15:12] my bad [15:12] that's still a good place to ask [15:12] yea, sounds perfect [15:49] * snap-l makes a reminder to never read the comments on Rolling Stone magazine [15:50] especially when it relates to Dave Grohl inducting Rush into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame [15:50] There are people who think Eric Clapton is a better musician than Rush [15:50] And that is not a world I want to live in. ;) [16:52] there are people that think the rock and roll hall of fame is important :( [16:54] heh [16:58] Yeah, it's no concern of mine [18:42] Man, MySQL needs to die in a fire. [18:42] This default to latin-1 shit is for the birds. [18:48] MariaDB! [18:49] I wish [20:47] snap-l: hey, we switched. [20:47] I was going to link to our blog post about it, but, heh, our wordpress install was owned today: [20:47] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/04/22/wikipedia-adopts-mariadb/ [20:47] hopefully that will work later [21:00] and its back [21:43] greg-g: yeah, I think we're going to switch either to Maria or PostgreSQL [21:43] Hopefully PostgreSQL [21:44] Also: I will never get tired of receiving CDs in the mail from CC bands. [21:44] Back Market Serotonin [21:44] http://superstardestroyer.bandcamp.com/album/something-from-nothing [22:37] does Banshee not work in 13.04? [22:37] It barely works in 12.04 [22:38] well, it started and played somafm streams on Friday, now it doesn't (I just upgraded today) [22:38] m3u streams? [22:38] Oh, you mean the radio streams [22:39] right, now it "starts" but I can't click anywhere on its UI and get a response [22:39] Nice. [22:40] regressions are awesome [22:41] must have been some extension, I mv'd the addin dir out of the way and it works [22:41] I think that's why they made the switch to Rhythmbox [22:41] Oh, that's cool