[00:12] <rick_h_> party party
[00:18] <jrwren> what kind of party?
[00:18] <rick_h_> CA kind of party
[00:18] <rick_h_> in oakland...which actually kinda looks like DTW
[00:19] <rick_h_> except more people
[00:19] <jrwren> oh right.
[00:19] <jrwren> what U doing there?
[00:19] <rick_h_> sprints this week
[00:19] <rick_h_> well, something, planning sprints more than coding sprints I guess
[00:20] <rick_h_> and wondering around some china-town like area
[00:20] <widox_> I just got back from CA, rick_h_
[00:20] <rick_h_> widox_: booo!
[00:20] <brousch> Detroit looked a lot cleaner than I remembered
[00:20] <rick_h_> widox_: have fun?
[00:20] <jjesse> jrwren, they were holding the UDS that was canceled
[00:20] <widox_> yeah, good times
[00:20] <jjesse> but just w/ Canonical employees and no community
[00:20] <jrwren> yay detroit!
[00:23] <tjagoda> Detroit and clean are generally not synonyms
[00:23] <tjagoda> brousch must have bad glasses =P
[00:23] <brousch> It was all highways and Cobo Center
[00:24] <tjagoda> Usually 94 and 696 are littered with poorly cleaned up accidents and exploded truck tires
[00:24] <brousch> It was clean and light traffic
[00:30] <snap-l> btw: Meeting in a half hour
[00:30] <snap-l> might be alittle late because I just got in from mowing lawn
[00:30] <snap-l> but it'll be a short meeting
[00:31] <jrwren> downtown is pretty clean.
[00:32] <jrwren> esp. cobo, jefferson, woodward, washington.
[00:32] <jrwren> leave those streets and its not so clean.
[00:58] <snap-l> Going to get the meeting started in 2 minutes
[01:00] <snap-l> Evening, everyone.
[01:00] <snap-l> Welcome to the May Ubuntu Michigan Meeting
[01:00] <snap-l> I completely forgot to set an agenda for this meeting. :)
[01:00] <snap-l> But there's also little to cover
[01:00] <snap-l> So ley
[01:01] <snap-l> So, let's get started.
[01:01] <snap-l> Who all is on the line?
[01:01] <snap-l> Feel free to ping as we go along.
[01:01] <snap-l> First order of business: 13.04 release party
[01:01] <snap-l> Thanks to everyone who came out to the release party
[01:02] <snap-l> I understnad there wasn't anything in the program, and for that I apologize
[01:02] <snap-l> It unfortunately kept a few people who would otherwise have attended from showing up.
[01:02] <snap-l> Hopefully if we decide to have it again at Penguicon, we'll manage it better
[01:03] <snap-l> Speaking of Penguicon, this year was quite awesome.
[01:03] <snap-l> The Hotel was awesome, and the Penguicon folks put on a hell of a show on short notice.
[01:03] <snap-l> huge kudos to everyone involved.
[01:04] <snap-l> Anything about the release party that anyone would like t comment on?
[01:04] <Ahuka> snap-l, did anyone try to contact the Penguicon folks?
[01:04] <snap-l> Also, did anyone else have a release party in MI?
[01:04] <waldo323> several people asked me for discs :)
[01:04] <snap-l> It's squarely on my shoulders that we didn't get on the program
[01:04] <snap-l> I should have thought to ensure it was on the schedule
[01:05] <Ahuka> #1 priority: Find someone to blame.
[01:05]  * waldo323 takes some of it
[01:05] <Ahuka> We had a good time anyway.
[01:06] <snap-l> In previous years we've not had anything in the program, but it seems there were an inordinate amount of folks who didn't know where it was
[01:07] <snap-l> Regardless, it was a great time
[01:07] <snap-l> and $4 microbrews = A+
[01:07] <snap-l> although that Percolater porter was F-
[01:07] <waldo323> apparently the tiki bar was a new idea the week of the con, i think we were originally going to be on the other side of the fireplace right?
[01:07] <snap-l> http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1754/7178
[01:09] <snap-l> I thought so, but the Tiki Bar was a great touch
[01:09] <waldo323> indeed
[01:09] <snap-l> They really accomidated everyone
[01:10] <waldo323> except those wanting a dull and very quiet time?
[01:10] <snap-l> heh
[01:10] <snap-l> Anywho, moving on. :)
[01:10] <snap-l> Re receifed our bug for reapproval
[01:10] <snap-l> We, rather
[01:10] <snap-l> and per our discussion last month, I have marked the bug as invalid.
[01:11] <snap-l> aka: we're not going to shoot for reapproval.
[01:11] <snap-l> No, that doesn't mean we're not going to shoot for staying active
[01:11] <snap-l> active != approval
[01:11] <Ahuka> That is what we said.
[01:12] <snap-l> but frankly the approval process is cumbersome, and offers no benefit
[01:13] <waldo323> i'd rather we spent more time being active than working on being approved
[01:13] <snap-l> So we're committed to being unapproved.
[01:13] <snap-l> Rebellious. :)
[01:13] <snap-l> unshackled
[01:13] <snap-l> We'll see where that lands us, but I'm confident we'll manage to stay awesome.
[01:14] <snap-l> And hopefully lead by example of how we can still be awesome and not require the approval process
[01:14] <snap-l> Frankly, it needs to end sooner than later
[01:17] <snap-l> Any questions for concerns?
[01:17] <Ahuka> Nope.
[01:17] <waldo323> not at the moment
[01:17] <snap-l> OK, that's all I have at the moment
[01:17] <snap-l> so if there isn't anything else, we'll call this puppy adjourned
[01:17] <Ahuka> Cool.
[01:18] <snap-l> Oh, one last thing: all of the physical media is gone from our group
[01:18]  * waldo323 pets adjourned
[01:18] <snap-l> so if you want any more discs, um... you'll have to buy it from Canonical
[01:18] <waldo323> that sounds like a good thing
[01:18] <snap-l> 'cuz there ain't no more.
[01:18] <snap-l> yeah, that's a relief
[01:19] <snap-l> OK, meeting really adjourned. :)
[01:19] <snap-l> Thank you all for attending. :)
[01:19]  * waldo323 waves
[01:19] <snap-l> Off to watch Doctor Who. :)
[01:19] <waldo323> haha nice
[01:29] <Wolfger> Did I miss the meeting?
[01:30] <Wolfger> Oh, yeah, there it is... meeting adjourned 13 minutes ago :-p
[01:37] <brousch1> I have craploads of old discs
[11:57] <snap-l> Good morning
[11:57] <brousch> yes
[11:58] <brousch>  I had about 25 people at my Kivy talk. That's the biggest crowd yet. They were almost all Python developers and Android users
[11:59] <snap-l> That's awesome.
[11:59] <snap-l> Was it recorded?
[11:59] <brousch> No
[12:00] <brousch> I want to do it in a 2 parter for PyOhio
[12:00] <brousch> Pt 1: Intro to Kivy. Pt 2: Kivy on Android
[12:00] <brousch> 50 minutes isn't enough time to cover both well
[12:02] <snap-l> Yeah, I could easily see that being the case
[13:55] <brousch> The worst thing about the conference was that they served asparagus for lunch. Crowded bathrooms and asparagus piss is not pleasant
[14:02] <jjesse> wow
[14:02] <jjesse> that just sounds disgustting
[14:06] <brousch> hehe
[14:55] <snap-l> That sounds... um... awesome?
[14:55] <flipsidecreation> I don't understand why they removed some of the keyboard shortcuts such as F3 from nautilis
[14:56] <brousch> flipsidecreation: The devs don't use them, so neither should you
[14:56] <flipsidecreation> in 13.04
[14:57] <flipsidecreation> apparently   Even the change kybd shortcuts are gone.  I have to use a mouse like some sort of Micro$oft user!
[14:57] <rick_h_> morning
[14:57] <rick_h_> how we all doing?
[14:57] <flipsidecreation> *err change view shortcuts
[14:58] <flipsidecreation> morning rick_h_
[14:58] <77CAA2O6H> g'morn
[14:58] <77CAA2O6H> wait, what?
[14:59] <rick_h_> hah
[14:59] <rick_h_> I've joined the greg-g west coast contingent of the loco
[14:59] <rick_h_> morning at lunch
[14:59] <77CAA2O6H> :)
[14:59] <77CAA2O6H> but g-damn, what's with my nick
[15:00] <greg-g> test
[15:00] <greg-g> whew
[15:01] <snap-l> received
[15:01] <brousch> I knew it! greg-g is a bot!
[15:01] <snap-l> flipsidecreation: I didn't realize that was a shortcut
[15:02] <snap-l> (F3 in Nautilus)
[15:02] <snap-l> It likely happened on the GNOME side
[15:02] <greg-g> brousch: ssshhhhh
[15:02] <snap-l> Since you can get something similar with tabbed or windowed browsing
[15:02] <greg-g> rick_h_: so, how busy are ya'll?
[15:02] <rick_h_> greg-g: just getting started but looks like going to be a fun week :/
[15:03] <snap-l> I hear they're working on their elevator pitches. :)
[15:03] <greg-g> I have a general "meet up with jcastro sometime this week" thing in my calendar
[15:03] <rick_h_> woke up at 4:30am and managed to resleep until 6am so early
[15:03] <greg-g> might as well add you in there, too ;)
[15:03] <greg-g> rick_h_: nice
[15:03] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, I did a chat with him on the way here.
[15:03] <rick_h_> greg-g: told him to make sure he lets me know when he sets it up
[15:03] <greg-g> I woke up at 6:30, carrie and rowan were still asleep, so I just got up and left for work
[15:03] <rick_h_> greg-g: heh, yea. Sometimes don't fight it, just get up and get going.
[15:03] <greg-g> rick_h_: awesome, Ryan Lane, our OpenStack guru here will probably join
[15:03] <rick_h_> greg-g: very cool
[15:04] <greg-g> snap-l: I missed that: elevator pitches?
[15:04] <snap-l> !weather
[15:04] <snap-l> bah
[15:04] <greg-g> we need a bot
[15:04] <snap-l> Yeah, apparently they're having problems with the elevator at the hotel?
[15:05] <jrwren> did someone say openstack guru?
[15:05] <jrwren> I need one
[15:05] <rick_h_> heh
[15:05] <rick_h_> greg-g: so a guy I know is looking for a wikipedia expert for some work? Do you guys do/associate with those kinds?
[15:05] <greg-g> jrwren: everyone does
[15:05] <greg-g> snap-l: oh, that sucks
[15:06] <greg-g> rick_h_: depending on what you mean, yeah
[15:06] <greg-g> rick_h_: someone to do mediawiki (the software) dev/support/whatever, yeah
[15:06] <greg-g> rick_h_: someone to help with the wikipedia project content, less so me, but I know who knows
[15:07] <rick_h_> yea, I think they're trying to do some stuff with their mediawiki stuff
[15:08] <greg-g> cool yeah
[15:08] <greg-g> ryan lane did the conversion from moinmoin of the openstack wiki to medaiwiki
[15:08] <snap-l> Current conditions at Detroit City Airport, MI (KDET)
[15:08] <snap-l> Last updated May 06, 2013 - 10:53 AM EDT / 2013.05.06 1453 UTC
[15:08] <snap-l>    Temperature: 61.0 F (16.1 C)
[15:08] <snap-l>    Relative Humidity: 51%
[15:08] <snap-l>    Wind: from the E (090 degrees) at 9 MPH (8 KT)
[15:08] <snap-l>    Sky conditions: clear
[15:09] <brousch> Thank you Al Roker
[15:09] <snap-l> heh
[15:09] <rick_h_> greg-g: cool, shoot me an email with contact info sometime if you get a sec and I'll forward it along.
[15:10] <greg-g> rick_h_: so, jcastro already asked about the conversion of ubuntu wiki, I don't think Ryan has the time to do another one right now, but, there is a mailing list (heh, sorry) of people who do mediawiki consulting that is a good place to hit up
[15:11] <greg-g> rick_h_: unless it is something differetnt you're thinking of ;)
[15:11] <rick_h_> greg-g: ah that'd be cool I guess
[15:11] <rick_h_> greg-g: it's just a friend. He runs a local company that does home theater installs/etc
[15:11] <greg-g> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-enterprise
[15:11] <rick_h_> and we were talking yesterday and he asked if I knew anyone that did mediawiki consulting because they need some help with their stuff
[15:11] <greg-g> ohhhhh, I see
[15:11] <rick_h_> so this is non-canonical/etc
[15:11] <greg-g> gotcha
[15:11] <rick_h_> just friend stuff
[15:12] <greg-g> my bad
[15:12] <greg-g> that's still a good place to ask
[15:12] <rick_h_> yea, sounds perfect
[15:49]  * snap-l makes a reminder to never read the comments on Rolling Stone magazine
[15:50] <snap-l> especially when it relates to Dave Grohl inducting Rush into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
[15:50] <snap-l> There are people who think Eric Clapton is a better musician than Rush
[15:50] <snap-l> And that is not a world I want to live in. ;)
[16:52] <jrwren> there are people that think the rock and roll hall of fame is important :(
[16:54] <greg-g> heh
[16:58] <snap-l> Yeah, it's no concern of mine
[18:42] <snap-l> Man, MySQL needs to die in a fire.
[18:42] <snap-l> This default to latin-1 shit is for the birds.
[18:48] <greg-g> MariaDB!
[18:49] <snap-l> I wish
[20:47] <greg-g> snap-l: hey, we switched.
[20:47] <greg-g> I was going to link to our blog post about it, but, heh, our wordpress install was owned today:
[20:47] <greg-g> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/04/22/wikipedia-adopts-mariadb/
[20:47] <greg-g> hopefully that will work later
[21:00] <greg-g> and its back
[21:43] <snap-l> greg-g: yeah, I think we're going to switch either to Maria or PostgreSQL
[21:43] <snap-l> Hopefully PostgreSQL
[21:44] <snap-l> Also: I will never get tired of receiving CDs in the mail from CC bands.
[21:44] <snap-l> Back Market Serotonin
[21:44] <snap-l> http://superstardestroyer.bandcamp.com/album/something-from-nothing
[22:37] <greg-g> does Banshee not work in 13.04?
[22:37] <snap-l> It barely works in 12.04
[22:38] <greg-g> well, it started and played somafm streams on Friday, now it doesn't (I just upgraded today)
[22:38] <snap-l> m3u streams?
[22:38] <snap-l> Oh, you mean the radio streams
[22:39] <greg-g> right, now it "starts" but I can't click anywhere on its UI and get a response
[22:39] <snap-l> Nice.
[22:40] <greg-g> regressions are awesome
[22:41] <greg-g> must have been some extension, I mv'd the addin dir out of the way and it works
[22:41] <snap-l> I think that's why they made the switch to Rhythmbox
[22:41] <snap-l> Oh, that's cool