[06:48] <bkerensa> slangasek: what package is submitbug in?
[16:23] <slangasek> bkerensa: you mean 'submittodebian' or 'reportbug'?
[18:33] <MarkDude> bkerensa: pingy
[18:42] <bkerensa> slangasek: submittodebian
[18:42] <bkerensa> MarkDude: ?
[18:44]  * MarkDude wants to know if your BP is scheduled for UDS
[18:45]  * MarkDude does NOT want to interfere with your process
[18:45] <MarkDude> Whilst still reserving right to try my strategy with linking Bug#1 as well as formation language of Ub untu
[18:46] <MarkDude> If your effort does not succeed in restoring Community to header
[18:46] <MarkDude> The *if* is key there
[18:47] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Yes it is http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21740/community-1305-ubuntu-website-planning/
[18:47]  * MarkDude was advised to ping Jono , but- Im not sure that makes sense if your BP is moving along
[18:47] <MarkDude> Cool. No need for me to make extra noise
[18:47] <bkerensa> "If your effort does not succeed in restoring Community to header"
[18:47] <MarkDude> yep
[18:48] <bkerensa> Canonical has already stated they do not plan to re-add it to the header
[18:48] <bkerensa> so I do not believe it will be
[18:48] <MarkDude> Yep, heard that also
[18:48] <bkerensa> They said they will add it some other place
[18:48]  * MarkDude needs to be fair
[18:48] <MarkDude> allow the process to go
[18:48] <bkerensa> they said removing the community link from the top was a business decision
[18:48] <MarkDude> Then go with my process
[18:48] <bkerensa> and that they do not need to consult the community on every little thing affecting the community
[18:48] <MarkDude> Cool, and thats an albatross that will hang around their neck
[18:49]  * bkerensa shrugs
[18:49] <bkerensa> im over it
[18:49] <bkerensa> ;)
[18:49] <MarkDude> Albatross.
[18:49]  * MarkDude has proven track record of pushing for the Community. Not gonna stop now
[18:49]  * MarkDude will pause to let your session do it's thing. Not doing so would be rude on my part :)
[18:50] <MarkDude> And Canonical is in a position to be judged by its actions
[18:50] <MarkDude> Which is occurring at same time Fedora is pondering how to define itself
[18:51] <MarkDude> It was a stalemate. Now there is an easy- we are not that. Community link will always be there.
[18:52]  * MarkDude would rather win his 1 US Dollar bet tho. than to have this turn into mktg crap.
[18:53]  * MarkDude did want to call his BP "dont piss on my leg, AND tell me it's rain".
[18:54] <MarkDude> wanna bet 1 US Dollar the Community link is restored by mid-Summer?
[18:54] <MarkDude> eof.
[18:54] <MarkDude> :)
[20:12] <slangasek> bkerensa: ubuntu-dev-tools
[20:12] <bkerensa> slangasek: thx
[21:14] <bkerensa> slangasek: http://i.imgur.com/4HRszJ2.png   :( submittodebian hates me
[21:14] <bkerensa> always exploding ubuntu changes into patches
[21:23] <slangasek> bkerensa: why does the screenshot claim the package version is 3.0-a9-1 instead of having an Ubuntu package version number?
[21:24] <slangasek> (this may be the root of the problem)
[21:27] <bkerensa> slangasek: because I bzr branch debianlp:lmbench
[21:27] <bkerensa> so it should not have deb version
[21:28] <bkerensa> then I made my change to debian/control
[21:28] <bkerensa> and submittodebian
[21:28] <bkerensa> and explosion of deltas resulted
[21:28] <slangasek> bkerensa: submittodebian is intended for submitting Ubuntu changes to Debian; an Ubuntu upload would have an Ubuntu changelog entry in debian/changelog
[21:28] <bkerensa> :(
[21:29] <bkerensa> slangasek: so is there no tool for grabbing debian source packages and making changes and then submitting patches on debian without ubuntu changes being in the equation?
[21:29] <bkerensa> Ubuntu is not going to accept these changes because we dont want to carry them
[21:30] <slangasek> sure there is; 'bzr diff -p1 > patch'; 'reportbug' and attach the patch
[21:31] <bkerensa> slangasek: you are a genius that or I just fail
[21:31] <bkerensa> slangasek: does reportbug use the debian smtp server like submittodebian or do I have to setup some local smtp?
[21:32] <slangasek> submittodebian is a wrapper around reportbug ;)
[21:32] <bkerensa> ah
[21:32] <slangasek> I think you have to invoke it as 'reportbug -B debian'
[21:32] <bkerensa> hmms
[21:32] <bkerensa> I need to jot all this down so I dont forget it and bug you next cycle about it
[21:32] <bkerensa> ;)