[00:00] <Len-nb> qas shrinks nicer too.
[00:00] <zequence> xfce, as in the alsa mixer gui?
[00:00] <zequence> And, what don't we need? 
[00:00] <Len-nb> let me look downstairs at a more complex card
[00:01] <Len-nb> yes the xfce mixer, called "audio mixer"
[00:01] <Len-nb> That is the only one we have right now
[00:02] <zequence> alsa mixers don't have pulse controls
[00:02] <zequence> Some levels are share by alsa and pulse mixers, but that doesn't mean the alsa mixer has pulse controls
[00:04] <zequence> or, qasmixer only has two controls for pulse, output and input
[00:05] <zequence> I don't think qasmixer is adding anything that we didn't already have, does it?
[00:16] <len-1304> Niether one of them makes sense on my old ensoniq card. :P
[00:16] <len-1304> I have to enable the playback on line in before I can set it to record?
[00:21] <len-1304> zequence, One thing I will say about "audio mixer" is that I can't even get all my playback controls on the ice on one screen. QASmixer gets playback, capture and all the switches on less than 2/3 screen.
[00:49] <len-1304> zequence, QAS allows much finer adjustment and actually show db. using the up down keys with QAS gives 1 db steps, Audio mixer does 4db steps, but I can only see that from QAS. alsamixer in a terminal is about the same as QAS
[00:51] <len-1304> QAS can be set to a level with text input, "Audio mixer" doesn't understand the need for such fine adjustments, alsamixer doesn't allow text input either.
[08:18] <smartboyhw_> zequence: Are we allowed to blog about Ubuntu Studio future targets? ;P
[08:21] <smartboyhw_> For S and T.
[11:24] <zequence> smartboyhw: Sure, and I'm going to do some posts on that on our website and social sites too. On my personal blog, I might just write more personal stuff (like someting about my personal projects), since we already have a common "propaganda" apparatus for Ubuntu Studio
[11:25] <zequence> smartboyhw: You can prepare posts for Ubuntu Studio too, if you like. But, if you don't mind, I then would like to have a look at them first
[11:28] <smartboyhw> zequence: Heh, if you are going to post things on the website I'm not going to:P
[11:36] <zequence> smartboyhw: I don't mind if you do it. I'd actually like it if more people would write stuff, so we can post things more often
[11:38] <smartboyhw> zequence: OK. But you reminded me to actually write my own goals for 13.10 in my blog:P
[11:39] <smartboyhw> zequence: BTW what do you think of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu ?
[11:39] <DarkEra> posts on the main/Home page or the planet?
[11:43] <zequence> We can link Ubuntu Studio posts to the planet. It's not worked out yet (just needs a correct address for the planet Ubuntu feed, I think)
[11:43] <zequence> smartboyhw: Very smart goal
[11:44] <smartboyhw> zequence: Try 
[11:44] <smartboyhw> We have a category
[11:44] <DarkEra> just reading the log because i missed something 
[11:45] <smartboyhw> Just that it's not properly feeded
[11:45] <zequence> One of the things I think we should be doing is prepare Debian/Ubuntu so that companies like Pro Tools would feel it's a good platform to support
[11:45] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: Some:P
[11:45] <zequence> Right now, the audio system is messy, and we are in a position where we can do something about that, at least from top down. 
[11:46] <smartboyhw> zequence: I think you need to purchase an actual whiteboard to brainstorm ideas (like what Scott did for team structure in his blog) ;P
[11:46] <zequence> I'm not really brainstorming right now. These are firm goals, but I just haven't put them in writing yet
[11:47] <zequence> We should contact some companies and see if they have any interest in Ubuntu/Linux
[11:47] <zequence> And if yes, what they think the problems are, etc
[11:47] <smartboyhw> zequence: Great
[11:47] <zequence> Doesn't mean we need to serve them, just that it's good to get an idea about what the situation is
[11:48] <smartboyhw> zequence: I tried to search the Ubuntu Studio trademark's registration, no luck :P
[11:49] <zequence> Yeah, google is dry of it. I still haven't emailed anyone about it..
[11:49] <DarkEra> sad news by the way, in the Netherlands 3 shops that sell PC's/laptops with Linux on them are closing their doors because it's harder to get computers without Windows installed from the vendors
[11:49] <zequence> Need to go out for a while. bbl
[11:49] <DarkEra> me to in a bit
[11:49] <DarkEra> too*
[13:06] <smartboyhw_> zequence: Are we seriously doing a vUDS session? It's next week man.
[14:25] <smartboyhw_> Welcome back DarkEra
[14:25] <DarkEra> heya smartboyhw_ thanks
[14:27] <DarkEra> welcome back yourself :D
[14:28] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: Meh, I touched "Disconnect" accidentally…
[14:30] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, that can happen. accidentally close xchat sometimes
[14:30] <DarkEra> myself
[14:32] <DarkEra> always fun i a meeting for example: hey where did DarkEra go?
[14:34] <DarkEra> vUDS is next week already? Time passes quickly... wow
[14:35] <smartboyhw> DarkEra: Yep
[14:35] <DarkEra> cool
[14:37] <DarkEra> i need to check something later on. It seems Ardour 2 didn't save the crossfades