[01:49] I'm having trouble setting up wireless networking on my first install of Xubuntu 11.10. [01:49] Can anyone help? [02:08] xubuntu376: sure.. i would *not* install 11.10... [02:08] !11.10 [02:08] Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) was the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1110 [02:09] xubuntu376: i would get the latest 13.10 and try it live.. === VividReality_ is now known as VividReality [04:40] one question [04:41] whats kernel uses xubuntu 12.04.02? [04:41] my uname -r is: 3.2.0-41-generic thats ok? [04:45] yea that sounds right [04:45] well 12.04.2 actually uses 3.5 [04:46] if you have an existing 12.04 install you can install that backported kernel by doing sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-quantal (the 12.04.2 backports are opt-in for existing installs) [06:46] Hi. The graphical login scren always says that incorrect password entered, but the same login succeeds in VT1 (ctrl + alt + f1). What could be wrong with it? [06:58] sounds like an incorrect keyboard layout [07:04] kRush, changing password to "123" didn't help. However, it worked after resetting password via /etc/shadow === mou is now known as rald [08:28] hi [08:29] <[uzver]> linux_unix-10: !hi [08:31] why can't i add 1280x800 resolution in xrandr in xubuntu 12.04? [08:31] here is the output: xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ xrandr --newmode "1280x800_60.00" 83.50 1280 1352 1480 1680 800 803 809 831 -hsync +vsync [08:31] X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist) [08:31] Major opcode of failed request: 149 (RANDR) [08:31] Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (RRCreateMode) [08:31] Serial number of failed request: 29 [08:31] Current serial number in output stream: 29 [08:32] xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ [08:37] <[uzver]> linux_unix-10: maybe that resolution not supported [08:37] explain further [08:38] i'm gonna use it for my hd monitor [08:38] <[uzver]> linux_unix-10: execute xrandr and see all supported resolutions [08:39] its supported [08:40] <[uzver]> linux_unix-10: can u pastebin output of xrandr [08:43] xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ xrandr --newmode "1280x800_60.00" 83.50 1280 1352 1480 1680 800 803 809 831 -hsync +vsync [08:43] X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist) [08:43] Major opcode of failed request: 149 (RANDR) [08:43] Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (RRCreateMode) [08:43] Serial number of failed request: 29 [08:43] Current serial number in output stream: 29 [09:15] why can't i add 1280x768 resolution on xubuntu 12.04 using xrandr? [09:19] linux_unix-10: is it listed in xrandr -q ? === melancht1on is now known as melanchthon [09:45] hello === azeam_afk is now known as azeam [13:20] Hi [13:20] <[uzver]> Peyam: hi [13:21] sup? [13:21] <[uzver]> ok [13:21] what's up? [13:40] unable to connect my usb net dongle:capitel 3g Qualcomm inc.:im in kerala,India:my isp BSNL,usb-devices listed my device but not recognides as a net modem [13:41] What is our typically gantt chart program? Also, I have a computer that doesn't want to boot. Any utilities I can use to try and see what piece of hardware is failing? [13:44] ner0x: try asking at ##hardware [13:44] TheSheep: No problem. Any idea on the gantt chart question? [13:45] ner0x, from software you can try boot-repair, as the gantt there are many many programs openproj its my personal favorite [13:46] http://sourceforge.net/projects/openproj/ [13:46] GridCube: Right. Doesn't appear to be in the repos. [13:47] nope [13:47] GridCube: Ah. SF has a .deb. [13:47] GridCube: Looks pretty old though. Project still maintained? [13:47] i dont know [13:48] last time i used it was for administration classes back in '10 [13:50] ner0x, http://alternativeto.net/software/openproj/?platform=linux [14:04] GridCube: That's a convenient website. Thanks! [14:04] :) === jhenke_ is now known as jhenke === jhenke is now known as jhenke_ [14:07] GridCube: That boot-repair is a bootable software? [14:08] no, its a software that fixes boot problems https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [14:08] GridCube: But your system has to be able to boot to use it, no? [14:09] ner0x, yes, read the wiki [14:10] GridCube: Right. Mine will not get past the initial boot screen. Freezes. [14:10] try changing you cables, unplug everything that its not essential and build up [14:11] GridCube: Did that. [14:11] GridCube: Really odd. Working fine then kaput. [14:12] I'm going to open it up and clean it, remove all non-essentials again and see if that works. [14:12] It is almost six years old. [14:12] Er.. 7 years actually. [14:13] stuff breaks === jhenke_ is now known as jhenke|away === jhenke|away is now known as jhenke [14:19] GridCube: Of course. I just wanted to see if I could narrow it down and replace just that part. [14:20] GridCube: I'm assuming a Core i3 will still be faster than my Core2Quad 3.2GHz. [14:21] no idea :P i only have an atom n450 at 1ghz [14:21] Whaaat?! [14:21] Why? lol [14:27] 10:03:49* nyuszika7h │ hi, is it possible to order the app list on the top panel in first-started-first order, and possibly with an option to rearrange them by dragging? [14:27] Unit193, there is no "sorting order" menu item in Ctrl-right click menu [14:27] oh wait, found it [14:27] never mind [14:37] hello [14:37] how to control mouse with keyboard? [14:38] im using xubuntu 13.04 [14:39] <[uzver]> rald: what for? [14:40] rald: press shift+numlock then you can use your numpad to control the cursor [14:40] or shift+ctrl+num [14:46] my mouse pointer wont move... i've tried all the combinations of shift+crtl+numlock and alt too [14:48] is there a command to run for this to work? [14:52] <[uzver]> rald: u use notebook or pc? [14:52] pc [14:52] a4 tech usb keyboard [14:53] <[uzver]> rald: and no mouse? [14:53] a hve a mouse a4 tech usb mouse but it is broken [14:54] will i remove the mouse from its usb slot? [14:58] <[uzver]> rald: there is utility xdotool [14:59] <[uzver]> rald: http://pastebin.com/0Sykh4L6 [14:59] ok i'll try it === paulo_ is now known as pnarciso [19:17] good dya to everyone [19:18] does anyone know how to get the top panel to only have 1 bluetooth icon? [19:19] or better yet how to remove the panel and just use cairo-dock? [19:21] Settings manager>Panel>Panel 0>remove (minus sign). [19:21] For cario-dock, you're on your own [19:23] for cairo dock, you can use this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock [19:23] help [19:23] !ask xubuntu702 [19:23] xubuntu702: what's the problem? [19:23] xubuntu702: It would really help to know the problem. [19:23] wait [19:24] unable to handle kernel null pointer defernce at 0000004c [19:24] thaths it say [19:25] what's the context of the error? when does it appear? [19:25] when its finding the hardware [19:25] So, what did you do before this error happened? [19:25] what do you mean? when you connect something? upon installing xubuntu? [19:26] when im instlling that problem appears [19:27] ithought it was a problem with internet so i try with one other [19:27] but the error appear again [19:27] when you are trying to install xubuntu? [19:28] what??? [19:29] does the error appear when you are trying to install xubuntu? [19:29] yes [19:31] please!!! [19:32] when you are installing, do not select "update while installing" option [19:32] okay [19:32] i will try again [19:32] in case i need [19:32] how i return here??? [19:33] do you have another computer? [19:33] it has mobile page??? [19:33] just use the freenode webchat page: https://webchat.freenode.net/ [19:34] thanks [19:34] and join the #xubuntu channel [19:34] or http://xubuntu.org/irc/ === demo is now known as Guest41340 [19:39] im again the one of instll problems [19:40] same error? [19:40] hello, is there a reason to upgrade my home old pc, from 12.04 to 13.04, cause upgrading to 12.10 last time ended by drivers not working anymore (nvidia) [19:40] not yet i will tell you [19:41] ronalds: i'd recommend using 12.04 LTS [19:41] ronalds, you can try out the live image on a dvd / usb drive :) [19:41] should be mostly problem-free [19:41] after upgraded to 12.04.2 I'm experiencing a weird issue. when I login with either of my accounts, the screen goes black. if I login with the guest account X restarts (nvidia splash and everything) [19:42] clean install right? [19:42] Guest41340: so xubuntu is installing correctly so far? no errors? [19:42] xubuntu is great for my home pc, as it was used to run xp back in the days [19:43] 14.04 is going to be LTS? [19:43] yes ronalds [19:43] i can't control the mouse with the keyboard damn [19:45] i mean mouse pointer [19:46] where does xfce store its per-user configuration? [19:46] 12.04.02 was half upgrade, it really made problems beefsalad? [19:47] ronalds: yep [19:47] weird [19:48] I'm starting to wonder if it's not the damn nvidia drivers [19:48] or hardware...laptop is kinda old [19:48] I would try reinstalling packages one by one, or just backuping everything, and using clean installation [19:49] thats why I asked where xfce stores its configs...I don't want to spend days remembering how to set everything up how I had it [19:49] I think before any upgrade, user must remove drivers, just because they break something [19:50] the kernel I was booted from didn't have the drivers installed for it [19:50] and I've never had a problem like this in the past with it [19:50] it's 2013 and devices people are using with xubuntu are probably old as sh** [19:51] welp, nothing showed up in xorg.0.log with this crash :( [19:51] I've already admitted mine is old :P [19:51] you can't startxfce4? [19:51] guess I'll unconfigure nvidia and see what happens [19:51] when it dies, it locks up the system [19:51] I can't flip back to a console to see whats going on [19:52] sshd dies, etc... [19:52] well when I had this problem, atleast I had console left [19:52] in one of the tty windows [19:54] if you don't have nothing, well I don't know, I could use ubuntu live cd for getting to see old files in partition (on my laptop) [19:55] the logs haven't revealed anything (used recovery mode to get to them) [19:55] I should throw some options at the kernel to see if I can't get it to print debug info somewhere [20:11] weee! removing nvidia may have worked...now to figure out why (and if that indeed was the problem) [20:16] beefsalad: were you using the proprietary drivers or the open source ones? [20:19] proprietary [20:20] install the os ones [20:21] sudo apt-get install nouveau [20:21] linux needs to expand on desktop, I want to play gta4 from openbox or even less abusive wm.. [20:22] only thing why I turn on windows sometimes [20:23] apparently GTA4 runs great under Wine [20:23] really? [20:23] http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8757 [20:24] but there are some nasty glitches [20:24] I don't think my already unsupported gpu, can run something in emulator [20:25] gta 4 has glitches even in windows [20:25] the performance hit shouldn't be that big. you could always play it in lower settings, too [20:25] also, the WM/DE shouldn't matter in this case. you could run wine from unity or awm [20:25] well I do already, except details, and resolution [20:26] you could always get a new GPU. there are good ones for whatever budget you happen to have [20:27] can I insert it in laptop \ [20:27] seems dumb question [20:27] If your laptop uses MXM video card you can [20:27] hd3000 [20:27] by intel [20:28] MXM? [20:28] mxm is a slot standard like pci, not a manufacturer [20:29] ok, haven't got a lot of experience in completing pc's [20:29] but running native is what linux needs.. [20:29] hopes on valve [20:30] they didn't even manage to create a proper pc port of gta4.. [20:31] can I run gta 4 with wine from other partition? [20:31] actually, you can sort of install a GPU on a laptop. it's more of a mod than anything, but since you use an adapter and the laptop's ePCI adapter, the memory bandwith is going to be singnificantly less than if you used a PCIe x16 slot, for example [20:31] I already have all the files [20:31] ronalds: negative. you'd have to install ok wine [20:32] if you have the steam version, you could copy the files into your steam wine folder [20:32] too bad [20:49] is amarok supported from xubuntu ? [20:49] isn't amarok a kde application? maybe try on kubuntu? [20:50] can i not use under xubuntu? [20:50] it should work with xubuntu, but the xubuntu team isn't specifically supporting amarok [20:50] sure you can [20:50] it should work, its package(s) should pull in the right deps, but it's going to bring in most of KDE into your system [20:50] you are just going to find more experienced users of it on the kubuntu channels [20:51] i have installed amarok but if i want open it, amarok instanly closed [20:51] ok, thanks [20:53] another question: i can not play my musics from iphone on banshee or gtkpod, why? [20:53] kksafak, i would ask the banshee/gtkpod support [20:54] (i don't even know if iphone is supposed to be supported) [20:54] if it's on the device, I imagine the player program is at best a remote control for the player, rendering output to the headphone jack === NePtUnO is now known as NePtUnO|Off [21:07] clementine ftw [21:17] nukke: nouveau isn't available, nouveau-firmware is though [21:18] beefsalad: really? hmm, try the ubuntu software center [21:20] nukke: you mean xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-lts-quantal? [21:21] indeed i am! [21:22] sorry about that. that's the correct package [21:22] heh, 'to install this.... xorg..... must be removed' [21:23] i'd recommend asking the #nouveau channel here in freenode first [21:24] well whats the point of installing the driver if its going to remove xorg? ;0 [21:24] ;) even...stupid shift key [21:25] you might be needing the xorg lts quantal update? [21:43] I tried installing the nvidia drivers on my xubuntu 12.04 x64 system yesterday and instead of enabling my 3d accel and such I'm now stuck in 640x480 mode. I uninstalled the nvidia drivers and tried a reinstall of all my X packages with no luck. Can anyone help me fix it? [21:44] make sure the uninstall occurred and you purge any lingering config, wipe out any xorg.conf in /etc/X11 [21:44] so deleted the xorg.conf file and then reboot? [21:44] cross fingers too, I occasionally to a update-initramfs -k all -c [21:45] these are my rituals when delving with the fglrx drivers myself, but both are different in how they handle the system of course [21:45] did you install the repo drivers or a run file from nvidia? [21:47] repo [21:47] used synaptic to install nvidia-current and nvidia-settings [21:47] ok cool [21:47] just followed your advice, rebooting. back shortly :) [21:47] on the ati side if I use their drivers, I make sure I have their script create packages to install [21:48] good luck ^ ^ [21:48] cross fingers [21:48] i tried that on a different install and it failed miserably as well [21:48] brb [21:50] that worked [21:50] quick bootup ^ ^ [21:50] powerful laptop + xfce [21:50] are you back to native resolution? [21:50] 1600x900 [21:51] yay [21:51] what does glxinfo say? [21:51] now i'm back to square 1... how the heck do I get my 3d accel enabled :) [21:51] let me check [21:51] it says nothing because it isnt installed haha [21:51] let me install it [21:52] it gave me a crap load of output, what did you want to see? [21:53] just the first several lines, grep 'render' and see whom is handling 3d [21:54] nate@nemesis:~$ glxinfo | grep render [21:54] direct rendering: Yes [21:54] OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile [21:54] GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility, [21:55] ha - NOW it tells me i have 3d accel working [21:55] after i uninstalled all my "work" [21:55] what's interesting is it isn't an nvidia-related renderer [21:56] it's one of those hybrid vid cards, can't remember what it's called [21:56] It's intel + nvidia [21:56] Geforce GT 630M [21:56] lspci can give hints [21:57] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09) [21:57] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0de9 (rev ff) [21:58] another thing yo ucould do to avoid as many problems as possible is to disable your integrated gfx inside the bios [21:58] likewise that's a tough chip. It's also one of the ones that could ultimately share memory with the internal intel gpu if nvidia open sourced a little more to include in the kernel [21:58] it's most likely set as switchable right now. make sure it uses only discrete graphics [21:58] I agree with nukke, should reduce some headaches [21:59] if it's using the internal card right now and i disable it in bios wont that hose up my system? [21:59] the system should switch over naturally and present itself as the primary video [21:59] hm - interesting [21:59] right now it would seem the intel gpu is master [21:59] ive never had one of these stupid hybrids [21:59] let me go see if I can find that option, brb [22:00] lspci doesn't enumerate the nvidia chip to its full chipset [22:00] update-pciids in case [22:00] yeah, i was having some problems with my ati+intel configuration [22:00] nate@nemesis:~$ sudo update-pciids [22:00] Downloaded daily snapshot dated 2013-05-04 03:15:02 [22:00] had to disable the ati card because it was giving me headaches [22:01] i'm not a hardcore gamer or anything anymore so I just need basic 3d accel for some RTS type games. Right now everything seems to be working ok. [22:01] I'll probably leave it as is unless I have more issues [22:02] Now - onto my next problem. Trying to see why the heck blueman crashes every freaking time I boot up [22:02] oh, nope. This time it's plymouthd [22:02] do you actually use bluetooth? i'd recommend uninstalling blueman altogether and disabling bluetooth on your machine [22:02] right now the intel chip is probably rendering primarily. still that's a sweet chip to keep off. I myself have had some issues moving stuff with my phone since 1204 as well. I'm going to try tonight with my 1304 and the same phone [22:04] I'm on a dell studio with ati hd 5450 I think [22:04] nice chip with relatively slow gram [22:05] but it get my fps fix now and then on decent quality [22:05] studio 14, rare machine [22:06] ok - the wife summons. thanks again guys [22:06] take care [22:07] later tonight mine will beckon with haste [22:07] :O [22:08] but that's future news, right now it's about the penguin [22:09] Quick question, has anyone lost their HDMI output as a result of 1304? I'm going to try the low latency kernel and see if there are any improvements, otherwise wait for a fix [22:19] *SIGH* ath9k performance sucks with this kernel :( [22:21] :< [22:22] oh well, time to rip the 500G drive out of the netbook and throw it in here since it has an unmolested install on it [22:31] wouldn't it be possible to get a bunch of old drivers? [22:32] with the kernel? no, the modules are all bundled with it [22:32] going to drop back a version and see what happens [22:33] ugh damnit, netbook HD has a 32bit install on it [22:33] my personal setup is a freaking mess lately :/ [22:34] i have to say this new 13.04 brought my old 2004 HP laptop into life again [22:34] 12.04 had all these little glitches here and there [22:35] was a bit of a struggle to find proper instructions to get the newer kernel to wokr on a non-PAE prehistorical CPU -.- [22:35] *work [22:43] ath9k driver got me through hard times when wifi was coming about. gentoo + ath wifi and I were tight === demo is now known as Guest89243 [22:59] hello someone to help me [23:00] demofran, what is your problem? [23:00] I have a problem with xubuntu instalation [23:00] its [23:01] unable to handle kernel null pointer deference at 0000004c [23:03] hey someone???' [23:04] lderan [23:06] someone!!!!! [23:06] please helop [23:06] how are you installing it? [23:06] from a dvd or usb? [23:06] usb [23:08] demofran: any more details would help [23:08] make sure you disable "update while installing" [23:09] yes nukke you tell me before but it didnt help [23:09] its a problem that happened when cheking hardware [23:09] can you boot into xubuntu off the usb? [23:09] without installing [23:10] yes [23:15] please a solution?? [23:16] nobody?? [23:18] !patience demofran [23:18] sorry [23:18] mmm i do not know the ubottu commands well :P [23:18] demofran !patience [23:18] nope [23:20] !patience | human [23:20] human: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ [23:22] ah the pipe [23:22] what? [23:27] lderan [23:27] could yo____ [23:28] could i _____? [23:28] Interesting.. about the exact same time you mention 'A'lderan my pidgin client opens a window saying "you sense a disturbance in the force" [23:29] :P [23:34] i need help [23:35] demofran: You could try #ubuntu, but you'd still need to follow the guidelines. [23:35] !guidelines [23:35] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [23:35] i didnt understood [23:49] yep, 3.2.0-41 kernel sucks. reverted to a 2.6 kernel from the pre .02 update and the lag has disappeared from the cpu and wifi [23:52] or not, ugh