[01:49] <xubuntu376> I'm having trouble setting up wireless networking on my first install of Xubuntu 11.10.
[01:49] <xubuntu376> Can anyone help?
[02:08] <holstein> xubuntu376: sure.. i would *not* install 11.10...
[02:08] <holstein> !11.10
[02:09] <holstein> xubuntu376: i would get the latest 13.10 and try it live..
[04:40] <marce_> one question
[04:41] <marce_> whats kernel uses xubuntu 12.04.02?
[04:41] <marce_> my uname -r is: 3.2.0-41-generic thats ok?
[04:45] <bwat47> yea that sounds right
[04:45] <bwat47> well 12.04.2 actually uses 3.5
[04:46] <bwat47> if you have an existing 12.04 install you can install that backported kernel by doing sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-quantal (the 12.04.2 backports are opt-in for existing installs)
[06:46] <ruslan_osmanov> Hi. The graphical login scren always says that incorrect password entered, but the same login succeeds in VT1 (ctrl + alt + f1). What could be wrong with it?
[06:58] <kRush> sounds like an incorrect keyboard layout
[07:04] <ruslan_osmanov> kRush, changing password to "123" didn't help. However, it worked after resetting password via /etc/shadow
[08:28] <linux_unix-10> hi
[08:29] <[uzver]> linux_unix-10: !hi
[08:31] <linux_unix-10> why can't i add 1280x800 resolution in xrandr in xubuntu 12.04?
[08:31] <linux_unix-10> here is the output: xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ xrandr --newmode "1280x800_60.00"   83.50  1280 1352 1480 1680  800 803 809 831 -hsync +vsync
[08:31] <linux_unix-10> X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
[08:31] <linux_unix-10>   Major opcode of failed request:  149 (RANDR)
[08:31] <linux_unix-10>   Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (RRCreateMode)
[08:31] <linux_unix-10>   Serial number of failed request:  29
[08:31] <linux_unix-10>   Current serial number in output stream:  29
[08:32] <linux_unix-10> xubuntu@xubuntu:~$
[08:37] <[uzver]> linux_unix-10: maybe that resolution not supported
[08:37] <linux_unix-10> explain further
[08:38] <linux_unix-10> i'm gonna use it for my hd monitor
[08:38] <[uzver]> linux_unix-10: execute xrandr and see all supported resolutions
[08:39] <linux_unix-10> its supported
[08:40] <[uzver]> linux_unix-10: can u pastebin output of xrandr
[08:43] <linux_unix-10> xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ xrandr --newmode "1280x800_60.00"   83.50  1280 1352 1480 1680  800 803 809 831 -hsync +vsync
[08:43] <linux_unix-10> X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
[08:43] <linux_unix-10>   Major opcode of failed request:  149 (RANDR)
[08:43] <linux_unix-10>   Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (RRCreateMode)
[08:43] <linux_unix-10>   Serial number of failed request:  29
[08:43] <linux_unix-10>   Current serial number in output stream:  29
[09:15] <linux_unix-10> why can't i add 1280x768 resolution on xubuntu 12.04 using xrandr?
[09:19] <moetunes> linux_unix-10:  is it listed in   xrandr -q   ?
[09:45] <nevand> hello
[13:20] <Peyam> Hi
[13:20] <[uzver]> Peyam: hi
[13:21] <Peyam> sup?
[13:21] <[uzver]> ok
[13:21] <Peyam> what's up?
[13:40] <xubuntu140> unable to connect my usb net dongle:capitel 3g Qualcomm inc.:im in kerala,India:my isp BSNL,usb-devices listed my device but not recognides as a net modem
[13:41] <ner0x> What is our typically gantt chart program? Also, I have a computer that doesn't want to boot. Any utilities I can use to try and see what piece of hardware is failing?
[13:44] <TheSheep> ner0x: try asking at ##hardware
[13:44] <ner0x> TheSheep: No problem. Any idea on the gantt chart question?
[13:45] <GridCube> ner0x, from software you can try boot-repair, as the gantt there are many many programs openproj its my personal favorite
[13:46] <GridCube> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openproj/
[13:46] <ner0x> GridCube: Right. Doesn't appear to be in the repos.
[13:47] <GridCube> nope
[13:47] <ner0x> GridCube: Ah. SF has a .deb.
[13:47] <ner0x> GridCube: Looks pretty old though. Project still maintained?
[13:47] <GridCube> i dont know
[13:48] <GridCube> last time i used it was for administration classes back in '10
[13:50] <GridCube> ner0x, http://alternativeto.net/software/openproj/?platform=linux
[14:04] <ner0x> GridCube: That's a convenient website. Thanks!
[14:04] <GridCube> :)
[14:07] <ner0x> GridCube: That boot-repair is a bootable software?
[14:08] <GridCube> no, its a software that fixes boot problems https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:08] <ner0x> GridCube: But your system has to be able to boot to use it, no?
[14:09] <GridCube> ner0x, yes, read the wiki
[14:10] <ner0x> GridCube: Right. Mine will not get past the initial boot screen. Freezes.
[14:10] <GridCube> try changing you cables, unplug everything that its not essential and build up
[14:11] <ner0x> GridCube: Did that.
[14:11] <ner0x> GridCube: Really odd. Working fine then kaput.
[14:12] <ner0x> I'm going to open it up and clean it, remove all non-essentials again and see if that works.
[14:12] <ner0x> It is almost six years old.
[14:12] <ner0x> Er.. 7 years actually.
[14:13] <GridCube> stuff breaks
[14:19] <ner0x> GridCube: Of course. I just wanted to see if I could narrow it down and replace just that part.
[14:20] <ner0x> GridCube: I'm assuming a Core i3 will still be faster than my Core2Quad 3.2GHz.
[14:21] <GridCube> no idea :P i only have an atom n450 at 1ghz
[14:21] <ner0x> Whaaat?!
[14:21] <ner0x> Why? lol
[14:27] <nyuszika7h> 10:03:49*      nyuszika7h │ hi, is it possible to order the app list on the top panel in first-started-first order, and possibly with an option to rearrange them by dragging?
[14:27] <nyuszika7h> Unit193, there is no "sorting order" menu item in Ctrl-right click menu
[14:27] <nyuszika7h> oh wait, found it
[14:27] <nyuszika7h> never mind
[14:37] <rald> hello
[14:37] <rald> how to control mouse with keyboard?
[14:38] <rald> im using xubuntu 13.04
[14:39] <[uzver]> rald: what for?
[14:40] <Pici> rald: press shift+numlock then you can use your numpad to control the cursor
[14:40] <Pici> or shift+ctrl+num
[14:46] <rald> my mouse pointer wont move... i've tried all the combinations of shift+crtl+numlock and alt too
[14:48] <rald> is there a command to run for this to work?
[14:52] <[uzver]> rald: u use notebook or pc?
[14:52] <rald> pc
[14:52] <rald> a4 tech usb keyboard
[14:53] <[uzver]> rald: and no mouse?
[14:53] <rald> a hve a mouse a4 tech usb mouse but it is broken
[14:54] <rald> will i remove the mouse from its usb slot?
[14:58] <[uzver]> rald: there is utility xdotool
[14:59] <[uzver]> rald: http://pastebin.com/0Sykh4L6
[14:59] <rald> ok i'll try it
[19:17] <sketch_> good dya to everyone
[19:18] <sketch_> does anyone know how to get the top panel to only have 1 bluetooth icon?
[19:19] <sketch_> or better yet how to remove the panel and just use cairo-dock?
[19:21] <drc> Settings manager>Panel>Panel 0>remove (minus sign).
[19:21] <drc> For cario-dock, you're on your own
[19:23] <nukke> for cairo dock, you can use this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[19:23] <xubuntu702> help
[19:23] <lderan> !ask xubuntu702
[19:23] <nukke> xubuntu702: what's the problem?
[19:23] <drc> xubuntu702: It would really help to know the problem.
[19:23] <xubuntu702> wait
[19:24] <xubuntu702> unable to handle kernel null pointer defernce at 0000004c
[19:24] <xubuntu702> thaths it say
[19:25] <nukke> what's the context of the error? when does it appear?
[19:25] <xubuntu702> when its finding the hardware
[19:25] <drc> So, what did you do before this error happened?
[19:25] <nukke> what do you mean? when you connect something?  upon installing xubuntu?
[19:26] <xubuntu702> when im instlling that problem appears
[19:27] <xubuntu702> ithought it was a problem with internet so i try with one other
[19:27] <xubuntu702> but the error appear again
[19:27] <nukke> when you are trying to install xubuntu?
[19:28] <xubuntu702> what???
[19:29] <nukke> does the error appear when you are trying to install xubuntu?
[19:29] <xubuntu702> yes
[19:31] <xubuntu702> please!!!
[19:32] <nukke> when you are installing, do not select "update while installing" option
[19:32] <xubuntu702> okay
[19:32] <xubuntu702> i will try again
[19:32] <xubuntu702> in case i need
[19:32] <xubuntu702> how i return here???
[19:33] <nukke> do you have another computer?
[19:33] <xubuntu702> it has mobile page???
[19:33] <nukke> just use the freenode webchat page: https://webchat.freenode.net/
[19:34] <xubuntu702> thanks
[19:34] <nukke> and join the #xubuntu channel
[19:34] <knome> or http://xubuntu.org/irc/
[19:39] <Guest41340> im again the one of instll problems
[19:40] <lderan> same error?
[19:40] <ronalds> hello, is there a reason to upgrade my home old pc, from 12.04 to 13.04, cause upgrading to 12.10 last time ended by drivers not working anymore (nvidia)
[19:40] <Guest41340> not yet i will tell you
[19:41] <nukke> ronalds: i'd recommend using 12.04 LTS
[19:41] <lderan> ronalds, you can try out the live image on a dvd / usb drive :)
[19:41] <nukke> should be mostly problem-free
[19:41] <beefsalad> after upgraded to 12.04.2 I'm experiencing a weird issue.  when I login with either of my accounts, the screen goes black.  if I login with the guest account X restarts (nvidia splash and everything)
[19:42] <ronalds> clean install right?
[19:42] <nukke> Guest41340: so xubuntu is installing correctly so far? no errors?
[19:42] <ronalds> xubuntu is great for my home pc, as it was used to run xp back in the days
[19:43] <ronalds> 14.04 is going to be LTS?
[19:43] <nukke> yes ronalds
[19:43] <rald> i can't control the mouse with the keyboard damn
[19:45] <rald> i mean mouse pointer
[19:46] <beefsalad> where does xfce store its per-user configuration?
[19:46] <ronalds> 12.04.02 was half upgrade, it really made problems beefsalad?
[19:47] <beefsalad> ronalds: yep
[19:47] <ronalds> weird
[19:48] <beefsalad> I'm starting to wonder if it's not the damn nvidia drivers
[19:48] <beefsalad> or hardware...laptop is kinda old
[19:48] <ronalds> I would try reinstalling packages one by one, or just backuping everything, and using clean installation
[19:49] <beefsalad> thats why I asked where xfce stores its configs...I don't want to spend days remembering how to set everything up how I had it
[19:49] <ronalds> I think before any upgrade, user must remove drivers, just because they break something
[19:50] <beefsalad> the kernel I was booted from didn't have the drivers installed for it
[19:50] <beefsalad> and I've never had a problem like this in the past with it
[19:50] <ronalds> it's 2013 and devices people are using with xubuntu are probably old as sh**
[19:51] <beefsalad> welp, nothing showed up in xorg.0.log with this crash :(
[19:51] <beefsalad> I've already admitted mine is old :P
[19:51] <ronalds> you can't startxfce4?
[19:51] <beefsalad> guess I'll unconfigure nvidia and see what happens
[19:51] <beefsalad> when it dies, it locks up the system
[19:51] <beefsalad> I can't flip back to a console to see whats going on
[19:52] <beefsalad> sshd dies, etc...
[19:52] <ronalds> well when I had this problem, atleast I had console left
[19:52] <ronalds> in one of the tty windows
[19:54] <ronalds> if you don't have nothing, well I don't know, I could use ubuntu live cd for getting to see old files in partition (on my laptop)
[19:55] <beefsalad> the logs haven't revealed anything (used recovery mode to get to them)
[19:55] <beefsalad> I should throw some options at the kernel to see if I can't get it to print debug info somewhere
[20:11] <beefsalad> weee! removing nvidia may have worked...now to figure out why (and if that indeed was the problem)
[20:16] <nukke> beefsalad: were you using the proprietary drivers or the open source ones?
[20:19] <beefsalad> proprietary
[20:20] <nukke> install the os ones
[20:21] <nukke> sudo apt-get install nouveau
[20:21] <ronalds> linux needs to expand on desktop, I want to play gta4 from openbox or even less abusive wm..
[20:22] <ronalds> only thing why I turn on windows sometimes
[20:23] <nukke> apparently GTA4 runs great under Wine
[20:23] <ronalds> really?
[20:23] <nukke> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8757
[20:24] <brainwash> but there are some nasty glitches
[20:24] <ronalds> I don't think my already unsupported gpu, can run something in emulator
[20:25] <ronalds> gta 4 has glitches even in windows
[20:25] <nukke> the performance hit shouldn't be that big. you could always play it in lower settings, too
[20:25] <nukke> also, the WM/DE shouldn't matter in this case. you could run wine from unity or awm
[20:25] <ronalds> well I do already, except details, and resolution
[20:26] <nukke> you could always get a new GPU. there are good ones for whatever budget you happen to have
[20:27] <ronalds> can I insert it in laptop \
[20:27] <ronalds> seems dumb question
[20:27] <genii-around> If your laptop uses MXM video card you can
[20:27] <ronalds> hd3000
[20:27] <ronalds> by intel
[20:28] <ronalds> MXM?
[20:28] <genii-around> mxm is a slot standard like pci, not a manufacturer
[20:29] <ronalds> ok, haven't got a lot of experience in completing pc's
[20:29] <ronalds> but running native is what linux needs..
[20:29] <ronalds> hopes on valve
[20:30] <brainwash> they didn't even manage to create a proper pc port of gta4..
[20:31] <ronalds> can I run gta 4 with wine from other partition?
[20:31] <nukke> actually, you can sort of install a GPU on a laptop. it's more of a mod than anything, but since you use an adapter and the laptop's ePCI adapter, the memory bandwith is going to be singnificantly less than if you used a PCIe x16 slot, for example
[20:31] <ronalds> I already have all the files
[20:31] <nukke> ronalds: negative. you'd have to install ok wine
[20:32] <nukke> if you have the steam version, you could copy the files into your steam wine folder
[20:32] <ronalds> too bad
[20:49] <kksafak> is amarok supported from xubuntu ?
[20:49] <TheSheep> isn't amarok a kde application? maybe try on kubuntu?
[20:50] <kksafak> can i not use under xubuntu?
[20:50] <knome> it should work with xubuntu, but the xubuntu team isn't specifically supporting amarok
[20:50] <TheSheep> sure you can
[20:50] <yourfriendarmand> it should work, its package(s) should pull in the right deps, but it's going to bring in most of KDE into your system
[20:50] <TheSheep> you are just going to find more experienced users of it on the kubuntu channels
[20:51] <kksafak> i have installed amarok but if i want open it, amarok instanly closed
[20:51] <kksafak> ok, thanks
[20:53] <kksafak> another question: i can not play my musics from iphone on banshee or gtkpod, why?
[20:53] <knome> kksafak, i would ask the banshee/gtkpod support
[20:54] <knome> (i don't even know if iphone is supposed to be supported)
[20:54] <yourfriendarmand> if it's on the device, I imagine the player program is at best a remote control for the player, rendering output to the headphone jack
[21:07] <ronalds> clementine ftw
[21:17] <beefsalad> nukke: nouveau isn't available, nouveau-firmware is though
[21:18] <nukke> beefsalad: really? hmm, try the ubuntu software center
[21:20] <beefsalad> nukke: you mean xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-lts-quantal?
[21:21] <nukke> indeed i am!
[21:22] <nukke> sorry about that. that's the correct package
[21:22] <beefsalad> heh, 'to install this.... xorg..... must be removed'
[21:23] <nukke> i'd recommend asking the #nouveau channel here in freenode first
[21:24] <beefsalad> well whats the point of installing the driver if its going to remove xorg? ;0
[21:24] <beefsalad> ;) even...stupid shift key
[21:25] <yourfriendarmand> you might be needing the xorg lts quantal update?
[21:43] <evilpoptart> I tried installing the nvidia drivers on my xubuntu 12.04 x64 system yesterday and instead of enabling my 3d accel and such I'm now stuck in 640x480 mode.  I uninstalled the nvidia drivers and tried a reinstall of all my X packages with no luck.  Can anyone help me fix it?
[21:44] <yourfriendarmand> make sure the uninstall occurred and you purge any lingering config, wipe out any xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[21:44] <evilpoptart> so deleted the xorg.conf file and then reboot?
[21:44] <yourfriendarmand> cross fingers too, I occasionally to a update-initramfs -k all -c
[21:45] <yourfriendarmand> these are my rituals when delving with the fglrx drivers myself, but both are different in how they handle the system of course
[21:45] <yourfriendarmand> did you install the repo drivers or a run file from nvidia?
[21:47] <evilpoptart> repo
[21:47] <evilpoptart> used synaptic to install nvidia-current and nvidia-settings
[21:47] <yourfriendarmand> ok cool
[21:47] <evilpoptart> just followed your advice, rebooting.  back shortly :)
[21:47] <yourfriendarmand> on the ati side if I use their drivers, I make sure I have their script create packages to install
[21:48] <yourfriendarmand> good luck ^ ^
[21:48] <yourfriendarmand> cross fingers
[21:48] <evilpoptart> i tried that on a different install and it failed miserably as well
[21:48] <evilpoptart> brb
[21:50] <evilpoptart> that worked
[21:50] <yourfriendarmand> quick bootup ^ ^
[21:50] <evilpoptart> powerful laptop + xfce
[21:50] <yourfriendarmand> are you back to native resolution?
[21:50] <evilpoptart> 1600x900
[21:51] <yourfriendarmand> yay
[21:51] <yourfriendarmand> what does glxinfo say?
[21:51] <evilpoptart> now i'm back to square 1... how the heck do I get my 3d accel enabled :)
[21:51] <evilpoptart> let me check
[21:51] <evilpoptart> it says nothing because it isnt installed haha
[21:51] <evilpoptart> let me install it
[21:52] <evilpoptart> it gave me a crap load of output, what did you want to see?
[21:53] <yourfriendarmand> just the first several lines, grep 'render' and see whom is handling 3d
[21:54] <evilpoptart> nate@nemesis:~$ glxinfo | grep render
[21:54] <evilpoptart> direct rendering: Yes
[21:54] <evilpoptart> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile
[21:54] <evilpoptart>     GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility,
[21:55] <evilpoptart> ha - NOW it tells me i have 3d accel working
[21:55] <evilpoptart> after i uninstalled all my "work"
[21:55] <yourfriendarmand> what's interesting is it isn't an nvidia-related renderer
[21:56] <evilpoptart> it's one of those hybrid vid cards, can't remember what it's called
[21:56] <evilpoptart> It's intel + nvidia
[21:56] <evilpoptart> Geforce GT 630M
[21:56] <yourfriendarmand> lspci can give hints
[21:57] <evilpoptart> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[21:57] <evilpoptart> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0de9 (rev ff)
[21:58] <nukke> another thing yo ucould do to avoid as many problems as possible is to disable your integrated gfx inside the bios
[21:58] <yourfriendarmand> likewise that's a tough chip. It's also one of the ones that could ultimately share memory with the internal intel gpu if nvidia open sourced a little more to include in the kernel
[21:58] <nukke> it's most likely set as switchable right now. make sure it uses only discrete graphics
[21:58] <yourfriendarmand> I agree with nukke, should reduce some headaches
[21:59] <evilpoptart> if it's using the internal card right now and i disable it in bios wont that hose up my system?
[21:59] <yourfriendarmand> the system should switch over naturally and present itself as the primary video
[21:59] <evilpoptart> hm - interesting
[21:59] <yourfriendarmand> right now it would seem the intel gpu is master
[21:59] <evilpoptart> ive never had one of these stupid hybrids
[21:59] <evilpoptart> let me go see if I can find that option, brb
[22:00] <yourfriendarmand> lspci doesn't enumerate the nvidia chip to its full chipset
[22:00] <yourfriendarmand> update-pciids in case
[22:00] <nukke> yeah, i was having some problems with my ati+intel configuration
[22:00] <evilpoptart> nate@nemesis:~$ sudo update-pciids
[22:00] <evilpoptart> Downloaded daily snapshot dated 2013-05-04 03:15:02
[22:00] <nukke> had to disable the ati card because it was giving me headaches
[22:01] <evilpoptart> i'm not  a hardcore gamer or anything anymore so I just need basic 3d accel for some RTS type games.  Right now everything seems to be working ok.
[22:01] <evilpoptart> I'll probably leave it as is unless I have more issues
[22:02] <evilpoptart> Now - onto my next problem.  Trying to see why the heck blueman crashes every freaking time I boot up
[22:02] <evilpoptart> oh, nope.  This time it's plymouthd
[22:02] <nukke> do you actually use bluetooth? i'd recommend uninstalling blueman altogether and disabling bluetooth on your machine
[22:02] <yourfriendarmand> right now the intel chip is probably rendering primarily. still that's a sweet chip to keep off. I myself have had some issues moving stuff with my phone since 1204 as well. I'm going to try tonight with my 1304 and the same phone
[22:04] <yourfriendarmand> I'm on a dell studio with ati hd 5450 I think
[22:04] <yourfriendarmand> nice chip with relatively slow gram
[22:05] <yourfriendarmand> but it get my fps fix now and then on decent quality
[22:05] <yourfriendarmand> studio 14, rare machine
[22:06] <evilpoptart> ok - the wife summons. thanks again guys
[22:06] <yourfriendarmand> take care
[22:07] <yourfriendarmand> later tonight mine will beckon with haste
[22:07] <nukke> :O
[22:08] <yourfriendarmand> but that's future news, right now it's about the penguin
[22:09] <yourfriendarmand> Quick question, has anyone lost their HDMI output as a result of 1304? I'm going to try the low latency kernel and see if there are any improvements, otherwise wait for a fix
[22:19] <beefsalad> *SIGH* ath9k performance sucks with this kernel :(
[22:21] <Lehti> :<
[22:22] <beefsalad> oh well, time to rip the 500G drive out of the netbook and throw it in here since it has an unmolested install on it
[22:31] <Lehti> wouldn't it be possible to get a bunch of old drivers?
[22:32] <beefsalad> with the kernel?  no, the modules are all bundled with it
[22:32] <beefsalad> going to drop back a version and see what happens
[22:33] <beefsalad> ugh damnit, netbook HD has a 32bit install on it
[22:33] <beefsalad> my personal setup is a freaking mess lately :/
[22:34] <Lehti> i have to say this new 13.04 brought my old 2004 HP laptop into life again
[22:34] <Lehti> 12.04 had all these little glitches here and there
[22:35] <Lehti> was a bit of a struggle to find proper instructions to get the newer kernel to wokr on a non-PAE prehistorical CPU -.-
[22:35] <Lehti> *work
[22:43] <yourfriendarmand> ath9k driver got me through hard times when wifi was coming about. gentoo + ath wifi and I were tight
[22:59] <demofran> hello someone to help me
[23:00] <lderan> demofran, what is your problem?
[23:00] <demofran> I have a problem with xubuntu instalation
[23:00] <demofran> its
[23:01] <demofran> unable to handle kernel null pointer deference at 0000004c
[23:03] <demofran> hey someone???'
[23:04] <demofran> lderan
[23:06] <demofran> someone!!!!!
[23:06] <demofran> please helop
[23:06] <lderan> how are you installing it?
[23:06] <lderan> from a dvd or usb?
[23:06] <demofran> usb
[23:08] <nukke> demofran: any more details would help
[23:08] <nukke> make sure you disable "update while installing"
[23:09] <demofran> yes nukke you tell me before but it didnt help
[23:09] <demofran> its a problem that happened when cheking hardware
[23:09] <nukke> can you boot into xubuntu off the usb?
[23:09] <nukke> without installing
[23:10] <demofran> yes
[23:15] <demofran> please a solution??
[23:16] <demofran> nobody??
[23:18] <lderan> !patience demofran
[23:18] <demofran> sorry
[23:18] <lderan> mmm i do not know the ubottu commands well :P
[23:18] <lderan> demofran !patience
[23:18] <lderan> nope
[23:20] <Unit193> !patience | human
[23:22] <lderan> ah the pipe
[23:22] <demofran> what?
[23:27] <demofran_> lderan
[23:27] <demofran_> could yo____
[23:28] <lderan>  could i _____?
[23:28] <seronis> Interesting..  about the exact same time you mention 'A'lderan my pidgin client opens a window saying  "you sense a disturbance in the force"
[23:29] <lderan> :P
[23:34] <demofran> i need help
[23:35] <Unit193> demofran: You could try #ubuntu, but you'd still need to follow the guidelines.
[23:35] <Unit193> !guidelines
[23:35] <demofran> i didnt understood
[23:49] <beefsalad> yep, 3.2.0-41 kernel sucks.  reverted to a 2.6 kernel from the pre .02 update and the lag has disappeared from the cpu and wifi
[23:52] <beefsalad> or not, ugh