=== wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away === jamesh_ is now known as jamesh === r0bby_ is now known as robbyoconnor === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [12:37] what's the command that deletes files that haven't been bzr added? [13:13] jml: clean-tree ? But read the help for caveats [13:13] vila: thanks. === bsd1 is now known as bsd === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === SamB_ is now known as SamB === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away [17:55] If I have a machine with an old version of bzr, can I push in such a way as to create a format old enough it can read? [17:55] It's 1.5 [17:58] LeoNerd: hmm ... [18:02] LeoNerd: I can't see how to specify rich-root in current versions of bzr; I guess you could try creating the branch using the old version? [18:02] I wonder if I can downgrade a push of it to pack-0.92 [18:03] Hrm.. :/ [18:03] No, complains about rich-root [18:03] I wonder if it'd be easier to sshfs mount the server and not have to run bzr remotely [18:04] LeoNerd: try upgrading the branch to use rich-root? [18:04] The branch is using rich-root. It complains it can't downgrade it to pack-0.92 because of that [18:04] There are pre-2a rich root formats. [18:04] Hmm, but any that 1.5 will understand? [18:05] rich-root-pack I believe is pack-0.92+richroot. [18:05] Hmmm [18:06] fullermd_: I don't see that in "help other-formats" on my modern bzr :-( [18:07] I also don't see --rich-root listed anywhere [18:30] SamB: --rich-root-pack was introduced in 1.0 and supports rich roots [18:30] it's marked hidden to discourage people from using it [18:31] (and to cut down on the noise) [18:31] well, it seems like the format should be listed in other-formats since that's where deprecated formats are supposed to be listed ... [18:32] We'd have to list all the way back to weaves (I'm not sure we support the pre-weave formats anymore). That gets to be a long confusingashell list. [18:32] You get people using dirstate-tags because they know they want to use tags, frex. [18:32] I'm not saying every single one should be [18:33] but this is an important variant of pack-0.92 [18:33] Anything pre-2a is so positively ancient, people who don't already know them shouldn't ever hear of them. [18:33] I mean, 2a came in in 1.16. 4 years ago. [18:33] sometimes one needs to refresh ones memory [18:34] It wasn't, really; before 2a, rich roots were the odd variant out. [18:34] it was important since it was needed for bzr-svn, though [18:35] Yeah, that's what I said: "odd" ;) [18:36] it's more useful than development-colo ... [18:38] Well, see? And look at who's behind both of them! :p [18:39] Now we know who to blame for the bzr-has-too-many-formats meme! [18:57] * jelmer ducks [18:57] Hey jelmer; how's it going? [18:58] hey LeoNerd, I'm doing well - still learning [18:58] :) [18:58] You'll get that for a while [18:59] LeoNerd: How are you? What are you up to? [18:59] I seem to be getting into some freelance+contracting arrangements currently [18:59] Or.. somesuch. Not quite sure how to arrange it yet [19:03] what sort of area? [19:04] SamB: unfortunately bzr-svn will probably disappear soon, unless somebody steps up to fix its compatibility with svn 1.7 and later :-( [19:04] that *is* unfortunate [19:04] why do they have to keep screwing with the API :-( [19:04] well, s/disappear/working copy [19:04] well, s/disappear/working copy support will break and the tests will stop working/