[05:28] <Tm_T> bkerensa: do you feel extended now?
[05:35] <bkerensa> Tm_T: I do not understand.
[05:39] <bkerensa> Tm_T: Now I do understand. :)
[05:42] <Tm_T> bkerensa: good (:
[06:30] <dholbach> good morning
[06:30] <nigelb> Morning dholbach!
[06:31] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[06:39] <smartboyhw> Hey dholbach
[06:39] <dholbach> hey smartboyhw
[06:44] <popey> Morning
[06:47] <smartboyhw> Hello popey
[06:48] <smartboyhw> dholbach: popey: Is 7:30 UTC the universal German Wakeup time?
[06:48] <dholbach> 7:30 would be 9:30 here
[06:48] <dholbach> I was up at 6:30 local time already
[06:49] <smartboyhw> dholbach: Or rather, IRC popup time…
[06:49] <dholbach> and was out for a run and saw that the cherry trees are blossoming
[06:49] <smartboyhw> Actually that's 06:30 UTC
[06:49] <smartboyhw> dholbach: Are they beautiful?
[06:49] <dholbach> they absolutely are
[06:50] <smartboyhw> elfy!!!!!!!!!
[06:51] <popey> smartboyhw: I'm not German, so...
[06:51] <smartboyhw> popey: Ah damn I mistaken you for ogra_
[06:51] <elfy> morning smartboyhw popey
[06:51] <smartboyhw> Sorry
[07:03] <smartboyhw_> dholbach: Uh oh http://www.muktware.com/5572/will-cloverleaf-linux-be-ubuntu-rpm-world
[07:05] <dholbach> not sure what to say about it - I mean... distros and derivatives have been coming and going for years/decades?
[07:07] <elfy> dholbach: and they will for years/decades to come :)
[07:08] <bkerensa> dholbach: happy patch pilot
[07:08] <bkerensa> ;)
[07:09] <dholbach> thanks bkerensa
[07:09] <dholbach> elfy, yeah
[07:11] <elfy> dholbach: how's the community website coming along - or has it stalled while you're lot are all off on a jolly somewhere :D
[07:11] <popey> by "jolly" you mean "work"
[07:11] <dholbach> on a jolly...............
[07:11] <elfy> popey: of course :)
[07:12] <popey> i find we work harder when we're away than when at home/office
[07:12] <dholbach> I had no time at all to look into the website
[07:12] <elfy> popey: I used to find the same
[07:12] <elfy> dholbach: I'd guessed so - was just checking
[07:12] <dholbach> but popey and smartboyhw_ helped identify a few link/text issues with the site which I fixed yesterday
[07:12] <dholbach> any help with reviews of http://91.189.93.108/ would be appreciated - I also asked everyone who helped out at the UDS session to look at the site
[07:13] <elfy> dholbach: ok - I've no work today I can have a look :)
[07:13] <popey> "The pages you'll see here are designed to show you what we're all about, how to get involved, and why.
[07:13] <popey> "
[07:13] <popey> why what?
[07:13] <dholbach> yoohoo!
[07:13] <smartboyhw_> elfy: :)
[07:15] <smartboyhw_> Greetings JoseeAntonioR
[07:43] <elfy> dholbach: had a quick look - first I see that both the support links point to http://91.189.93.108/help-information/keeping-up-to-date/community-blogs/
[07:43] <elfy> I shall troll because I BET that's deliberate :p
[07:44] <dholbach> no, maybe not
[07:44] <elfy> in the first paragraph "Ubuntu is more than an operating system for your computer, your server, your cloud, your phone, your tablet, or your TV." you only need the first 'your' - the repeats make it look laboured
[07:44] <dholbach> if you can make a suggestion to where they should point, please do
[07:45] <dholbach> I'll collect all the bits you all mentioned and get to them in a bit - thanks for reviewing
[07:45] <elfy> the support page I assume - the one from the etherpad - otherwise what was the point in doing what people did do
[07:45] <dholbach> ?
[07:46] <smartboyhw_> ?
[07:46] <dholbach> I'm not sure I'm following
[07:46] <dholbach> you said that two links point to the same place
[07:46] <dholbach> I'm not sure which ones you talk about and where you feel they should point instead
[07:47] <dholbach> of course were the etherpads the foundation of what is going to be this site - trust me, I want to re-do as little as possible
[07:47] <elfy> hover over the Support links - you see that it should go to /support/community - clikc the link and it goes to http://91.189.93.108/help-information/keeping-up-to-date/community-blogs/
[07:47] <dholbach> all right - I'll take a look at it later on - noting it down
[07:47] <elfy> :)
[07:48] <smartboyhw_> dholbach: And anyway, even the second support link (for people to actually get support) shouldn't link to the community  blogs page
[07:49] <smartboyhw_> http://91.189.93.108/help-information/finding-help/ this should be more corr.
[07:50] <smartboyhw_> corr. = correct
[07:50] <dholbach> noted down
[07:50] <smartboyhw_> dholbach: Thx!
[07:51] <dholbach> taking the dog for a walk - brb
[07:51]  * smartboyhw_ hugs dholbach
[07:51]  * dholbach hugs smartboyhw_ back
[10:07] <dholbach> JoseeAntonioR, how's the UOW planning coming on?
[10:57] <daker> dholbach: there is a small typo here http://91.189.93.108/
[10:57] <daker> ctrl+F : Phablet developers
[10:59] <daker> there is a > that should be removed
[11:00] <dholbach> daker, thanks - adding to my review list
[11:02] <popey> \o/ teamwork
[11:10] <smartboyhw> dholbach: Heh you should send out a call to community members to review the community site:P
[11:11] <smartboyhw> dholbach, dpm: Does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppDevUploadProcess/Feedback still work? I put my feedback and no replies;ap
[11:11] <smartboyhw> *;P
[11:12] <dholbach> smartboyhw, I'm out for lunch - will ping you when I'm back
[11:13] <dpm> smartboyhw, we're still working on the spec, but it's been a long time since we asked for feedback. There is going to be some discussion related to some parts of the spec at UDS next week
[11:13] <dpm> so we'll have the opportunity to discuss the feedback
[11:16] <smartboyhw> dpm: OK
[11:20] <smartboyhw> Heh, the wiki page has already prepared for 8.04, 10.04 (desktop) and 11.10 EOL when it is still 2 days away:P
[11:20] <smartboyhw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[11:20] <popey> yeah, a community person edited it over the weekend
[11:22] <smartboyhw> I don't think we should revert it anyways…
[11:23] <smartboyhw> Came to think of it: The last desktop release with GNOME 2 will be R.I.P
[11:23] <smartboyhw> R.I.P. GNOME 2-ized Ubuntu
[11:25] <popey> good.
[11:26]  * popey digs up GNOME 2, shoots it, burns it, burys it, digs it up again and chops it into little pieces.
[11:26] <smartboyhw> popey: \o
[11:26] <smartboyhw> *\o…
[11:26] <smartboyhw> *\o/
[11:27]  * benonsoftware turns around and shoots popey
[11:27] <smartboyhw> When I looked at Fuduntu's death post, I saw people being very disappointed. Truth be told, GNOME 2 doesn't have much modern design sense
[11:27] <popey> meh
[11:27] <smartboyhw> benonsoftware: LOL
[11:28] <popey> fuduntu has what, 10 users?
[11:28] <smartboyhw> popey: 25000…
[11:28] <smartboyhw> tracked users
[11:28]  * benonsoftware waves night!
[11:29] <smartboyhw> Good night benonsoftware
[11:31]  * smartboyhw thinks GNOME 2 should go dead A.S.A.P.
[11:31] <smartboyhw> Leave room for Unity and KDE and Xfce and LXDE and GNOME 3 man!
[11:59] <JoseeAntonioR> hello, smartboyhw.
[11:59] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach: all going good, will start to contact teams directly this or next week
[12:52] <dholbach> daker, fixed
[12:52] <dholbach> JoseeAntonioR, great
[13:56] <smartboyhw_> Welcome back dholbach
[15:52] <SergioMeneses> morning!
[15:52] <SergioMeneses> jcastro, around? busy?
[16:09] <popey> SergioMeneses: he's at a sprint this week, may be tied up in sessions
[16:10] <SergioMeneses> popey, I was thinking the same, thanks ;)
[17:36] <popey> is the osk still under the springbok project or somewhere else?
[17:41] <popey> I have no idea how I managed to type that in here ☻
[17:41] <popey> ignore me
[17:59] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, what is asap?
[17:59] <popey> As Soon As Possible
[17:59] <SergioMeneses> popey, ++
[18:00] <philipballew> popey, for the win!
[18:01] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, I think I can but and send the card on friday
[18:02] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, no worries
[18:03] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, :)
[18:19] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, if its hard to do, then no need to do it.
[18:20] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, there is no problem ;)
[18:21] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, cool, so what part of Columbia are you from?
[18:22] <SergioMeneses> philipballew,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%BAcuta
[18:23] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, oh cool. Ever been to Venezuela?
[18:23] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, I'm going to attend an event in Venezuela next week :D
[18:23] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, oh cool. I live on a border town, and cross a lot as well.
[18:25] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, border with Mexico? or Canada? where are you from?
[18:26] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, San Diego, I live say 25km's from Mexico or so.
[18:27] <SergioMeneses> awesome
[18:28] <SergioMeneses> ok philipballew I have to go, see you later
[18:29] <philipballew> SergioMeneses,  hasta luego
[18:30] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, buen dia! :D
[19:44] <JoseeAntonioR> jono_: ping
[19:45] <jono_> hey JoseeAntonioR
[19:45] <jono_> btw, no hangout tomorrow
[19:45] <jono_> I am sprinting
[19:45] <JoseeAntonioR> jono_: ok, no worries! just wanted to know if you could please post on the ubuntu facebook page, we're having a session on how to contribute to the ubuntu weekly newsletter in 15
[19:46] <jono_> JoseeAntonioR, sure
[19:46] <jono_> on ubuntuonair?
[19:46] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[22:32] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: so looks like I might be coming to Latin America next year
[22:32] <bkerensa> :)
[22:40] <philipballew> bkerensa, what part?
[22:40] <philipballew> and why?
[22:44] <bkerensa_roam> philipballew: Whatever city FLISOL will be in
[22:44] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa_roam, ubucon, it will be in Colombia next year
[22:45] <philipballew> bkerensa_roam, oh tight.
[22:45] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, I am probably coming to ubucon fyi
[22:45] <SergioMeneses> fyi?
[22:45] <philipballew> for your information
[22:45]  * philipballew keeps SergioMeneses on his toes with the acronyms 
[22:45] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, that would be nice
[22:46] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, jajaja
[22:46] <bkerensa_roam> SergioMeneses: I don't think I can go to Ubucon but FLISOL yeah
[22:46] <bkerensa_roam> :)
[22:46] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, I was planning to go to Lima to visit JoseeAntonioR, so I figured i have no excuse not to make a stop.
[22:46] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa_roam, why? do you need something? invitation letter or ?
[22:47] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, perfect
[22:47] <philipballew> Americans usually only need an invitiation letter for Asia and Middle east (thats Asia to though)
[22:47] <bkerensa_roam> SergioMeneses: So ;) Mozilla would be helping me get there and Ubucon is not a Moz event
[22:47] <bkerensa_roam> SergioMeneses: They just got me access to their Mozilla Rosetta Stone Enterprise Acct so I can get my spanish fluent before I travel :)
[22:47] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, were trying to get UbuCon to DF soon.
[22:48] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, como se dice "Help, My name is Ben, and I am lost in a foreign country"
[22:49] <SergioMeneses> jajaja
[22:49] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, : "ayuda! mi nombre es Benjamin, y estoy perdido en un pais extranjero"
[22:49] <SergioMeneses> jajaja
[22:49] <philipballew> benonsoftware, ^ might wanna write that one down...
[22:49] <philipballew> ...
[22:50] <philipballew> bkerensa_roam, might wanna write that down
[22:50] <philipballew> also bkerensa_roam you have a nic for every thing you are doing.
[22:50] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa_roam, but can invite to mozzilla community, I dont think this would be a problem
[22:51]  * philipballew should get a nic for everything he does. 
[22:51] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, bkerensa_roam http://www.ubuconla.org/
[22:51] <bkerensa_roam> El Hombre Bebe
[22:52] <SergioMeneses> drink?
[22:52] <bkerensa_roam> La Mejur Come
[22:52] <bkerensa_roam> :)
[22:52] <bkerensa_roam> this rosetta stone stuff ;p
[22:52] <SergioMeneses> jeje
[22:52] <SergioMeneses> it doesnt work well
[22:53] <philipballew> bkerensa_roam, let me take you on a tour to Tijuana
[22:53] <SergioMeneses> what are you trying to tell us?
[22:53] <philipballew> Latin America's greatest city.
[22:53] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, I dont think so, there are another cities
[22:54] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, I know, I am joking. I think there are many great places
[22:54] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, It is however the gateway to Latin America for Most Americans.
[22:54] <bkerensa_roam> SergioMeneses: El hombre corre http://i.imgur.com/UmSsp1g.png
[22:54] <bkerensa_roam> :D
[22:54] <SergioMeneses> :O really?
[22:54] <chilicuil> and the gateway to America for most (even more) latin americans =)
[22:55] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa_roam, :)
[22:55] <bkerensa_roam> philipballew: I'm ok on going to tj.... I much prefer los algadones
[22:55] <philipballew> chilicuil, +1.
[22:56] <philipballew> This august I am going to go to Tj and meet a family from the lug there who are there and help them cross into the states.
[22:56] <bkerensa_roam> SergioMeneses: Lee es read?
[22:56] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa, yes
[22:56] <bkerensa_roam> bien
[22:56] <philipballew> bkerensa_roam, You like Yuma?
[22:57] <SergioMeneses> yuma?
[22:57] <bkerensa_roam> philipballew: of course
[22:57] <bkerensa_roam> only in the winter though
[22:57] <SergioMeneses> dholbach speaks Spanish pretty well :)
[22:57] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, chilicuil bkerensa_roam http://hhopper.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/sandiego-mexico-border.jpg
[22:58] <philipballew> bkerensa_roam, Its the Bakersfield of Arizona :)
[22:58] <SergioMeneses> o0 what a ugly view!
[22:58] <SergioMeneses> *an
[22:58]  * philipballew actually likes Bakersfield 
[22:58] <bkerensa_roam> philipballew: psh its actually got one of the largest retirement communities after Florida
[22:58] <bkerensa_roam> philipballew: my grandparents used to own a winter home in Yuma
[22:59] <chilicuil> SergioMeneses: lol, it looks so weird
[22:59] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, you're right
[22:59] <philipballew> bkerensa_roam, I know. its three hours from sd
[22:59] <philipballew> chilicuil, Its the busiest border in the world.
[22:59] <SergioMeneses> what is yuma? what does it mean?
[22:59] <SergioMeneses> sounds like anime
[23:00] <JoseeAntonioR> bkerensa_roam: FLISOL is all over LA
[23:00] <JoseeAntonioR> by LA I meant Latin America
[23:00] <philipballew> yuma is another border town on the border with bkerensa_roam 's Mexican city he loves so much.
[23:00] <bkerensa_roam> SergioMeneses: corre es run?
[23:00] <chilicuil> philipballew: take care while doing the cross ride
[23:01] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa_roam, yes
[23:01] <philipballew> chilicuil, cross ride?
[23:01] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, aaah ok
[23:01] <bkerensa_roam> SergioMeneses: So Mozilla is actually teaching 250 reps an extra language
[23:01] <bkerensa_roam> :D
[23:02] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa_roam, :O great!
[23:02] <chilicuil> philipballew: "This august I am going to go to Tj and meet a family from the lug there who are there and help them cross into the states"
[23:02] <bkerensa_roam> that way they can evangelize in another language and also travel outside of their country to do it :)
[23:02] <philipballew> chilicuil, oh yes, everything will go as planned.
[23:03] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa_roam, if you have any questions about Spanish, let us know
[23:03] <bkerensa_roam> SergioMeneses: this platform has free real time spanish speakers to hel 24/7 :)
[23:04] <SergioMeneses> perfect then
[23:04] <philipballew> bkerensa_roam, I learn my Spanish from the delicious Mexican cuisine at the local Taco Bell.
[23:04] <bkerensa_roam> :s
[23:04] <bkerensa_roam> Delicious and Taco Bell in same sentence uhh
[23:04] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, I love Mexican food :)
[23:05] <bkerensa_roam> SergioMeneses: this is not mexican food he speaks of
[23:05] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, I live off Mexican food.
[23:05] <bkerensa_roam> Its
[23:05] <bkerensa_roam> faux mexican food
[23:05] <bkerensa_roam> philipballew: you need to go to Taqueria Cancun next time your in the bay area
[23:05] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa_roam, it was a comment apart
[23:05] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, dont listen to bkerensa_roam , Taco Bell is the most authentic food you can find
[23:05] <bkerensa_roam> LOL
[23:06] <JoseeAntonioR> I like it
[23:06]  * SergioMeneses wants to go to Mexico
[23:06] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, I was there 5 days ago, and have the stamp to prove it.
[23:06] <SergioMeneses> lol
[23:07] <chilicuil> the local 'taquero' makes more delicuous tacos that any taco bell, and it seems I'm the only mexican on the channel =P
[23:08] <philipballew> chilicuil, do they even have Taco Bell in that part of the country?
[23:08] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, can you make tacos? or you only eat it
[23:10] <chilicuil> philipballew: lol, no, there are no taco bells in mexico city, however I've eaten in similar places which prepare 'tacos' for foreign people, and I only eat them right now, but one of my dreams is to become a taquero and prepare tacos (not kidding)
[23:10] <bkerensa_roam> chilicuil: Estoy cuarto mexicano
[23:10] <chilicuil> bkerensa_roam: ?
[23:10] <bkerensa_roam> ^-^
[23:11] <IdleOne> eres un chicano
[23:11] <philipballew> chilicuil, Should I try one of your tacos when I am there in a month?
[23:11] <chilicuil> bkerensa_roam: sry I dont get it =), do you mean you're a quarter mexican?
[23:12] <chilicuil> IdleOne: chilango =)
[23:12] <IdleOne> I've never heard that term
[23:12] <IdleOne> what does chilango mean?
[23:12] <chilicuil> IdleOne: that's the term to refer to people which lives in mexico city
[23:12] <bkerensa_roam> chilicuil: yes well in this case as IdleOne pointed out Chicano might be the preferred term
[23:13] <philipballew> I'm currently wearing a Xolos Jersey, how Mexican am I now?
[23:13] <chilicuil> chicano is almost never heard here
[23:13] <bkerensa_roam> chilicuil: my grandmother on my fathers side was full blood :)
[23:13] <bkerensa_roam> but she was born in the U.S.
[23:13] <philipballew> bkerensa_roam, thats tight
[23:13] <chilicuil> philipballew: lol
[23:13] <bkerensa_roam> philipballew: its peculiar if you look at my skin tone ;)
[23:14] <bkerensa_roam> Considering the Sicilian/Mexican heritage I should be pretty dark :P
[23:14] <chilicuil> O_o
[23:14] <bkerensa_roam> heh
[23:14] <bkerensa_roam> chilicuil: :)
[23:14] <philipballew> bkerensa_roam, I would, but you never sent me that cardboard cutout of you.
[23:15] <chilicuil> ok, whenever you feel like eating some tacos, feel free to land in mexico city, and I'll be your personal guide, now I'm going back to work =P
[23:16] <bkerensa_roam> chilicuil: only is its lengua
[23:18] <SergioMeneses> Im back
[23:43] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa, around?