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veeberssergiusens: I tried sudo adb start-server, adb devices shows the same error00:09
sergiusensveebers: image might be busted. Can you revert with that thing I showed you a while back? I'll get a fix in the meantime...00:11
LancertzDoes anybody know how wifi version of galaxy tab 10.1 is progressing?00:11
veeberssergiusens: cool,  I'll try find those revert details00:16
LancertzAnybody home00:37
blmvxerI'm messing around with Ubuntu Touch(raring) on my nexus 7, and I can access the native terminal app while using adb. but its a pain to have to plug it in and do all that jazz just to have it running. is there anyway I can remove some mock apps or move it forwared in the Installed apps list?03:04
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diwicHi! I'm trying to install the Touch image on a Nexus 7, but I can't get it to show up in adb. I've tried both fastboot mode and recovery mode.05:11
diwic(And the standard android is currently not available, can't boot into that.)05:11
wilee-nileediwic, You have the usb debug ticked in developer in android? you LOAD IT FRON THE TERMINAL.05:18
wilee-nileeSorry for the caps, lol05:18
diwicwilee-nilee, I don't have android, the current install is ubuntu-desktop05:50
diwic(sorry for the late answer)05:50
wilee-nileediwic, Yeah I figured that out Doh. I don't really have an answer as I thought it was just loading a install.05:51
diwicwilee-nilee,  thanks anyway, hopefully somebody else comes around for some assistance.05:53
diwicwilee-nilee, worst case I guess I could try reinstalling android just for flashing the touch image.05:53
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popeyMorning06:44
popeydiwic: you may have to flash back to android using the process outlined on the /Touch/Install page on the wiki, to do a clean start06:45
diwicpopey, okay, so there is no way to "upgrade" directly from the desktop image to the touch image?06:45
popeydiwic: there may be, but I'm not aware of it, and we never documented one AFAIAA06:46
diwicok06:47
jGleitzMorning!06:49
jGleitzDoes anybody know wether there will be an Emulator for Ubuntu Touch in the near future? Or is it somehow possible to run it in an VM?06:49
popeyhi jGleitz we're certainly investigating possibilities in that regard, but don't have a solution just yet for full system emulation06:50
jGleitzpopey: Alright, thank you06:51
dholbachgood morning06:59
mardyis there a way for an application to know the device's form factor?08:27
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mptcyphermox, hi, let me know when you're around to discuss Bluetooth on the phone. I'm going to start with just headsets since that's the only ELS item.08:58
diwicmpt, I would also like to join09:08
mptok09:09
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Nicolehello09:24
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Guest65754can anyone help me with nexus 10?09:24
Guest65754I'm stuck at step2 from the instructions09:24
* mpt wonders how many subscribers https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bluetooth/ has09:30
seb128mpt, ask StevenK, he's admin for the list and has access to the infos ;-)09:40
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tsdgeospete-woods: seen the bug i've created for the hud?10:48
pete-woodstsdgeos: no, I'll have a look10:48
tsdgeospete-woods: i can't speak anymore10:49
tsdgeossays can't open audio device10:49
pete-woodsstrange10:49
pete-woodsI haven't changed anything related to voice code in months10:49
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pete-woodstsdgeos: so I'm trying to debug this, but unity keeps recognising my Nexus 10 as an MTP device and trying to mount it, which disconnects the adb debugger11:50
pete-woodsis this some new "feature"?11:50
tsdgeosyes11:50
tsdgeossame thing greyback was just complaining about11:50
pete-woodsahh11:50
greybacktsdgeos: pray enlighten us :)11:51
* tsdgeos is looking thoruhg various irc logs, please be patient11:51
greybackadb shell setprop persist.sys.usb.config ptp,adb ?11:51
tsdgeossothing like that11:52
tsdgeosSaviq was the one that gave them to me11:52
greybackdoesn't appear to make any difference11:52
Saviqgreyback,11:52
pete-woodsis there a way to just turn off MTP support for the time-being?11:53
Saviqadb shell setprop sys.usb.config ptp,adb11:53
Saviqadb shell setprop persist.sys.usb.config ptp,adb11:53
Saviqpete-woods, greyback, the former one sets it for the current session, the latter so that it persists across reboots11:53
tsdgeoslunch!11:53
greybackSaviq: I was missing the first one. Thanks11:54
pete-woodsSaviq: awesome, thanks!11:54
greybackhmm, I'm still seeing USB removal/insertions11:57
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popeygreyback: tsdgeos pete-woods: dconf-editor, org -> gnome -> desktop -> media-handling -> untick "automount" and the issue is gone12:41
greybackpopey: that works too, thanks12:42
pmcgowanpopey, is that the mtp mount thing12:43
popeythe popup you get from nautilus periodically, yes12:43
pmcgowanpopey, this is how I fixed it so mtp still works generally fwiw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1160847/comments/712:45
ubot5Launchpad bug 1160847 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "gvfs should not attempt to mount MTP devices in an endless loop (cluttering your desktop with messages)" [High,Confirmed]12:45
pmcgowanwe really need to fix the image to not declare it can do mtp12:45
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seb128popey, your workaround breaks automounting of usb keys, cameras, music players, etc13:02
seb128just for info13:02
ogra_pmcgowan, i thought sergiusens  wanted to look into that (either way, telling the host we cant do mtp should be equally sufficient ... just not giving any answer seems to be confusing)13:02
pmcgowanogra_, right13:02
popeycorrect seb128 ☻13:02
pmcgowanseb128, my workaround is better for that13:02
popeybut then I hate all automounting ☻13:02
seb128pmcgowan, editing the libmtp udev file?13:03
pmcgowanyes, and adding the other rule to avoid sudo13:03
ogra_no, adding an additional rule13:03
seb128ok13:03
ogra_you can easily do it in a higher sequenced file13:03
pmcgowanright13:03
pmcgowanI am no udev rules expert13:04
seb128well, best option is still to make the device tells that it doesn't support mtp if we can do that ... did we get any news from sergiusens on that?13:04
ogra_not yet, nope13:04
ogra_but he has been pinged a lot above now :)13:04
ogra_i guess he will answer once he is here13:05
pete-woodspopey: the real problem with the MTP mount for me is not the messages, but that fact that it disconnects my adb shell13:10
pete-woodsmaking it impossible to debug apps on the phablet13:11
popeypete-woods: ditto13:11
* popey tries the fix pmcgowan posted above and re-enables automounting13:11
seb128pete-woods, turn off automount, you can also install openssh-server and ssh to the tablet rather than using adb13:12
pmcgowanpopey, has anyone set something to the email list yet?13:12
pmcgowanpete-woods, use phablet-network-setup -i13:12
pmcgowanbut flashing gets interrupted, its bad13:12
popeypmcgowan: not that I'm aware of, I thought i was the only one suffering with this13:13
popeygiven I'd seen nobody mention it here13:13
pmcgowanI think we are all hitting it on raring13:14
pmcgowanhost13:14
pmcgowanpopey, lets wait for sergio then send an update to the list13:14
mterrySaviq, you mentioned using itemAt to find the delegate and just using delegate properties.  However...  itemAt takes x,y parameters, which is awkward when you have an index value.  Plus, let's say we eventually get around to adding keyboard navigation like the desktop greeter has.  Home will zoom to the first item in the list.  In such a case, will Qt create the delegate before it's on-screen?13:16
ogra_xnox, do you have any idea which of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/livecd-rootfs/saucy/files/head:/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/ will be handled by the first boot wizard ?13:16
greybackpopey: it'll save you from this anyway: http://i.imgur.com/4jh40BH.jpg :D13:17
ogra_(if any)13:17
greybackpopey: lots of error dialogs!13:17
pete-woodspopey, seb128: I followed Saviq's instructions to disable ptp, etc on the tablet, and that already worked13:18
pete-woodsbut thanks for the help anyway! :)13:18
pmcgowanseb128, is telepathy-ofono another python2.7 depender?13:20
doomlordhows' ubuntu touch these days .... does it have a terminal app yet13:21
seb128pmcgowan, it's using telepathy-python which is python2 yes13:21
pmcgowanseb128, is it also written in python13:21
seb128pmcgowan, but I think there is/was working ongoing to replace that13:22
pmcgowanthats what I want to check on13:22
seb128pmcgowan, I've that in my IRC logs13:23
seb128Ubuntu Server-#ubuntu-touch.log:mars 04 19:47:29 <boiko>matge: we have updated the telepathy specs in there, but at some point we will move away from telepathy-python13:23
pmcgowanseb128, ack13:23
seb128pmcgowan, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1303-apps-telephony has13:26
seb128 [tiagosh] Port telepathy-ofono away from python-telepathy: INPROGRESS13:26
seb128 telepathy-ofono analysis/rewrite (not rely on telepathy-python): TODO13:26
seb128pmcgowan, so I guess tiago/gustavo have the details13:27
ogra_i guess editing out the mtp bits in http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_tuna.git;a=blob_plain;f=init.tuna.usb.rc;hb=bb2936186bfb30a3f67d81010ccdd1f9af035798 (and their equivalent for the other devices) will quieten mtp13:27
ogra_sergiusens, ^^^13:28
pmcgowanseb128, is there a blueprint for the image build transition in general? looking for a place to add some tasks like fixing python deps13:38
seb128pmcgowan, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-ubuntu-touch-porting13:39
pmcgowanseb128, perfect thanks13:40
seb128pmcgowan, yw13:40
sergiusensogra_: seb128 yeah, did that last night... was having problems with grouper though13:43
sergiusensseb128: ogra_ also, we are not building the mtp server13:43
sergiusensor using it for that matter13:43
ogra_well, i think the prob is that the gadget driver exposes mtp13:44
ogra_without offering the endpoint13:44
ogra_which is what you should be able to switch off in init.rc13:44
ogra_sergiusens, what were the probs with grouper ?13:46
sergiusenspmcgowan: ogra_: I had no reviewers yesterday, but this is what I did for manta http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/mtp/13:47
sergiusensogra_: problem with grouper is if you change the persist.config or the init stuff you lose adb... need to look into it a bit more13:48
ogra_well13:48
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ogra_looking at your patch i wouldnt completely remove the mtp,adb thing13:48
sergiusensogra_: just the OVERRIDE thing?13:48
ogra_in the second block13:49
ogra_on property:sys.usb.config=mtp,adb13:49
ogra_make that on property:sys.usb.config=adb13:49
sergiusensogra_: so mtp and mtp,adb or just mtp,adb?13:49
sergiusensogra_: that's already in the defaul init.rc13:49
ogra_drop all traces of mtp ... but keep adb13:49
ogra_ah13:49
ogra_even on grouper ?13:50
sergiusensogra_: yes, but on grouper, even with today's build, if you tell it to use only adb, you lose the adb connection for some reason13:50
ogra_weird13:51
sergiusensogra_: it was late last night that I decided to try this grouper thing... might be resolved today...13:51
sergiusensbut grouper in general _is_ weird :-P13:51
ogra_heh13:52
ogra_its such a breeze if used with plain linux/xorg13:52
pmcgowansergiusens, ogra_ sorry to say it but in general lets lower any priority on grouper, too many issues13:52
ogra_funny that it has so many probs under android13:52
ogra_(it is the easiest arm device to run a desktop on)13:52
sergiusenspmcgowan: ok, well I solved the mtp issues for manta... been running it locally yesterday, just that I had no reviewers so I didn't apply the patch :-)13:53
pmcgowanfair enough13:54
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ogra_well, it looks good to me13:54
pmcgowansergiusens, is someone testing now?13:54
sergiusenspmcgowan: not many people had manta's that were online yesterday13:54
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pmcgowansergiusens, which one is manta13:55
sergiusenspmcgowan: nexus 1013:55
sergiusenspmcgowan: I have a local build here: http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/mtp/13:56
pmcgowansergiusens, I have one if it helps13:56
sergiusenspmcgowan: can you download that, then adb push that_file.zip /sdcard/autodeploy.zip; adb reboot recovery and tell me if it shows up?13:56
pmcgowanok13:57
sergiusensogra_: one more http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/0001-Remove-the-need-of-signapk.patch13:58
sergiusensI'll be removing all the other jars today (around 4 more built)13:59
sergiusensdholbach: hey! do you by any chance know about the status of our gerrit instance?13:59
dholbachno13:59
dholbachI don't know - is there an RT for it?13:59
sergiusensdholbach: that's what I was hoping to get out of you :-)14:00
dholbachno, I wasn't involved in any of the discussions, but just aware that something like this would be needed14:00
dholbachI never touched anything related to gerrit at all :-/14:00
sergiusensdholbach: me neither... I guess I'll bring it back when rsalveti gets back14:01
sergiusensdon't mind doing it myself though :-)14:01
dholbachmaybe searching for gerrit in the RT db will help?14:02
sergiusensdholbach: good idea14:02
ogra_sergiusens, tested ?14:02
ogra_(i.e. does the zip still install)14:03
pmcgowansergiusens, after reboot recovery then what?14:03
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sergiusenspmcgowan: just wait14:04
pmcgowansergiusens, it went into the menu14:05
sergiusensogra_: yes it does... I did a make clobber just in case... I can retest14:05
sergiusenspmcgowan: did you type /sdcard/autodeploy.zip properly?14:05
pmcgowansergiusens, looks right14:06
pmcgowanI can reboot and see f its there14:06
ogra_sergiusens, nah, happy with a single test, go for it14:06
sergiusenspmcgowan: do you remember how to manually deploy a zip? It should be in the menus with that name.... my guess is that you may not be running our recovery image14:08
pmcgowansergiusens, its in /sdcard/0 I can manually select it14:08
pmcgowansergiusens, just inherited this manta14:08
pmcgowansergiusens, shall I do that or is there other approach?14:09
sergiusenspmcgowan: do that fr this test, but after this, do a 'phablet-flash -b'14:09
pmcgowanack14:10
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pmcgowansergiusens, still getting mtp mounts14:19
ogra_pmcgowan, your rule reverted ?14:23
ogra_+with14:23
cyphermoxdiwic: mpt: I have time now.14:24
diwiccyphermox, me too14:24
diwiccyphermox, hi! :-)14:24
cyphermoxhey ;)14:24
diwiccyphermox, well, I was just thinking; if you're having a problem with the bluez <-> PA connection I might be able to help out or talk to people who know more than me in that area14:26
diwiccyphermox, but I'm also curious of the current status14:26
popeyhmm, bfiller where's upstream for qml-phone-shell? it comes from the phablet-team ppa on the device.. does it have its own project somewhere?14:26
sergiusenspmcgowan: what's the output of adb shell getprop| grep sys.usb.config14:26
pmcgowanogra_, yes I took out my fix and tried sergiusens patch14:26
sergiusenspopey: lp:unity/phablet14:27
popeyits not listed as a sub-project of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview14:27
cyphermoxdiwic: I think it just works fine on the nexus 4... the nexus 7 / galaxy nexus might be a different story14:27
popeyoh14:27
popeyta14:27
bfillerpopey: it's lp:unity/phablet I believe14:27
cyphermoxdiwic: but if pulseaudio can successfully send sound out the speakers, then I don't foresee issues14:27
sergiusensbfiller: it is14:27
pmcgowansergiusens, hmm no diff14:27
pmcgowan[persist.sys.usb.config]: [mtp,adb]14:27
bfillerpopey: but check with Saviq on where to file bugs for that, they might be doing something different14:27
pmcgowan[sys.usb.config]: [mtp,adb]14:27
popeyroger14:27
diwiccyphermox, how do you usually test bt on the touch image?14:28
cyphermoxdiwic: I'm not sure what you mean by "how"? I just pair devices and try to make them work14:28
diwiccyphermox, e g how do you pair the device?14:28
cyphermoxusing bluez's test suite, basically14:29
Saviqpopey, lp:unity/phablet14:29
Saviqpopey, as for bugs, we don't yet have a place better than phablet-team14:29
popeyok14:30
diwiccyphermox, ok, will try bluez-test-discovery and see what happens14:31
sergiusenspmcgowan: wrong image then :-( I'll upload  a correct one14:31
cyphermoxdiwic: that will just list devices in proximity14:31
pmcgowansergiusens, ok in the meantime I am back to whack a mole on these mount popups14:32
sergiusensogra_: yeah, but we can decouple it from there at least (the zip)14:32
sergiusensogra_: wrong channel :-P14:32
ogra_heh14:33
cyphermoxyou basically want to use test-proximity to get their MAC, then test-device create <MAC> to create the device and then something like test-audio connect <MAC> to actually use them14:33
cyphermoxdiwic: : ^14:33
acovrigWith the current plan, can I open a terminal and use sudo commands on the ubuntu touch?14:33
popeyacovrig: you can ssh in if you want, the phablet default user also has sudo rights14:34
sergiusenspmcgowan: well, it should look like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5641643/14:34
pmcgowanagreed14:34
pmcgowanso either I screwed something up or that was the wrong zip14:34
acovrigpopey, would I have to ssh 127.0.0.1, or could I just open something like gnome-terminal?14:35
sergiusenspmcgowan: yeah... not sure what but I wasn't myself yesterday :-)14:35
pmcgowansergiusens, double check it and I will try again14:35
acovrigbecause as-is, I have a ubuntu 9 chroot on my HTC, and I would like at least the same abilities...14:35
diwiccyphermox, thanks, will try14:36
popeyacovrig: we have a terminal app14:36
popeyacovrig: you can ssh to the IP address of the wifi device14:36
popeyacovrig: or adb shell over a usb cable14:37
acovrigOK, and looking at the site, there are 4 devices listed, are those the only that it works with or only tested with?14:37
popeythey're the ones we test with, yes. other devices have community maintained ports acovrig14:38
acovrigpopey, where may I find the community maintained ports (I have the HTC Evo 3D)?14:39
popeyacovrig: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices14:39
mptcyphermox, I don't now, sorry. :-/ Same time tomorrow?14:41
cyphermoxor earlier?14:41
diwiccyphermox, hmm, those commands seem to work from root@phablet but not from phablet@phablet14:41
cyphermoxdiwic: yeah, from the test suite that is possible14:42
cyphermoxbut that would be an issue at the bluez level, I'll investigate and fix14:42
diwiccyphermox, I get an "dbus rejected send message"14:43
cyphermoxok14:44
cyphermoxfor which message?14:44
diwiccyphermox, paste.ubuntu.com/564168014:45
cyphermoxmpt: ok, so basically 14 UTC tomorrow?14:46
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mptcyphermox, yes, if that suits you14:47
cyphermoxalright14:47
diwicmpt, btw, what's the meeting about, and would you like me to attend?14:47
mptdiwic, to review my first draft of a UI design for setting up a Bluetooth headset.14:47
diwicmpt, ok. I might join in, if I'm not there, just go ahead without me. :-)14:49
diwicmpt, is that ok with you?14:49
mptsure14:49
pete-woodstsdgeos: I have a fix for the voice bug14:54
cyphermoxmpt: diwic: I made a meeting entry in calendar, invited both of you.14:55
pete-woodstsdgeos: https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/hud/voice-bug-1177226/+merge/16279215:01
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bcurtiswxhas the kernel issue been fixed where it won't allow mounts from the nexus devices15:03
bcurtiswxwell in my case it was the N715:03
bcurtiswxin saucy15:03
diwiccyphermox, ok, I've come as far as getting the same/similar access denied error from pulseaudio when it tries to connect to bluez over dbus.15:06
cyphermoxok15:06
diwiccyphermox, anyway, just to confirm; the plan is to use the bluez - pulseaudio connection just as we do on the desktop, correct?15:08
cyphermoxcorrect.15:08
diwiccyphermox, filed bug 117742115:08
ubot5bug 1177421 in touch-preview-images "pulseaudio-module-bluetooth not installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117742115:08
cyphermoxoh hey, that will impede our work somewhat ;)15:09
diwic:-)15:09
diwiccyphermox, want me to file one more for the dbus permission issue or you will just fix it?15:11
diwiccyphermox, not that I'm sure where to file it.15:11
cyphermoxdiwic: I'm not ready to work on this yet, can you file it under bluez?15:11
cyphermoxI'll get back to it in a few minutes15:11
diwiccyphermox, ok, will do, thanks!15:12
cyphermoxthanks!15:12
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diwiccyphermox, filed bug 1177424.15:17
ubot5bug 1177424 in bluez (Ubuntu) "[Touch] no permission to access bluez on dbus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117742415:17
morphisdiwic: ping15:18
diwicmorphis, hi15:18
morphisdidrocks: hey15:18
morphisdidrocks: have one question about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-sound-support-pulse-audioflinger15:19
morphisdidrocks: sorry, I meant diwic :)15:19
morphisdiwic: about the point "[diwic] Write guide on how to port the mixer (from xml file to either UCM or PulseAudio profile): DONE"15:19
didrocksno worry :)15:19
morphisbad auto completion15:19
morphisdiwic: where do I find the guide?15:19
popeysergiusens: do we have a bug for the blank / non-functional media side of the image? it's been broken for a week or so15:20
diwicmorphis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Core/PulseaudioProfiles15:20
morphisdiwic: thanks a lot15:20
popeymedia player gives me a white blank screen, and other apps (like dropping letters) do the same, which seem to be media related as it plays music when starting15:20
diwicmorphis, that said, it looks like there might be additional stuff to deal with before this "just works", e g permission for pulseaudio to use the sound device directly15:21
morphisyes, it's not that easy15:21
morphisI am working here at the same story but within the webOS ports project15:21
diwicmorphis, ah, ok :-)15:22
morphis:)15:23
The_Letter_MHello all15:25
morphisdiwic: if I am reading the blueprint right is to go the way to just plain ALSA and pulseaudio on top15:25
The_Letter_MWill Ubuntu Touch work with the Verizon G Nex?15:26
diwicmorphis, as of today's daily image on the Nexus 7 we're still using audioflinger. That's as much as I know right now.15:27
morphisdiwic: hm, ok15:27
The_Letter_MWill Ubuntu Touch work with the Verizon G Nex?15:39
brion_The_Letter_M: it runs, but doesn't make calls etc.15:40
The_Letter_Moh15:40
brion_fine for a test device as long as you're not testing the cell part :)15:40
The_Letter_Mlol15:41
The_Letter_MGood to know15:41
The_Letter_Msince it's my only phone ATM15:41
brion_heh yeah don't flash your only phone yet15:41
brion_things are still young :)15:41
The_Letter_MYeah I moved all my apps from my phone to my N7 last night so I could still use them15:42
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didrockssergiusens: rsalveti: FYI, I have written today the support to have every commits in the changelog16:38
didrocksjust waiting for next week to push it as I'll be away until then16:39
didrocksand I don't want to take risks ;)16:39
popeysergiusens: see my mention earlier about audio/video playback being borked? is it on someone's radar?16:54
sergiusenspopey: is there a bug?16:54
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sergiusenspopey: haven't flashed today, doing local builds here16:54
sergiusenspopey: well, if it was the issue from last week bfiller tracked it down to an sdk issue16:55
sergiusenswith how theming is done16:55
bfillersergiusens, popey : renato_ is looking into it, sdk fix landed that was supposed to fix it but didn't seem to16:55
bfillerpopey: please file bug if you don't mind as I don't think there is one entered16:56
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* sergiusens will brb, network restart16:58
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pmcgowansergiusens, got an update for me to test?17:10
popeybfiller: ok17:15
sergiusenspmcgowan: not yet, but did you phablet-flash btw?17:15
sergiusenswith -b17:15
pmcgowansergiusens, no, will do that now17:15
popeybfiller: sergiusens bug 117539417:24
ubot5bug 1175394 in platform-api "Media player won't launch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117539417:24
sergiusenspopey: can you add the output of adb shell grep JENKINS /system/ubuntu_stamp ?17:25
popeysure17:26
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sergiusenspmcgowan: also, what's the output of your /data/property/persist.sys.usb.config17:32
pmcgowansergiusens, I just reflashed17:32
sergiusenspmcgowan: yeah, I want to know the value now after you did a flash with -b :-)17:33
pmcgowanok17:33
pmcgowanmtp,adb17:33
pmcgowansergiusens, ^^17:34
sergiusenspmcgowan: ty... here's the boot.img http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/mtp/manta_boot.img17:35
sergiusensusing that since it is smaller17:35
sergiusensto flash... adb reboot bootloader; sudo fastboot flash boot manta_boot.img; sudo fastboot reboot17:36
pmcgowanok17:36
pmcgowansergiusens, umm it didnt boot17:40
popeysergiusens: JENKINS_BUILD=11617:40
sergiusenspmcgowan: how old was the image you had on there?17:41
pmcgowansergiusens, brand new17:41
popeyis the osk still under the springbok project or somewhere else?17:41
ogra_sergiusens, hmm, i had that on yesterdays saucy build too iirc17:41
sergiusensogra_: the no boot? But I just flashed that same image :-/17:42
ogra_no, the no mediaplayer :)17:42
ogra_(dont panic :) )17:42
pmcgowansergiusens, whats next? its not booting at all17:42
sergiusensogra_: oh, mediaplayer is a know issue... not worried there17:42
ogra_yeah, just wanted to confirm its in saucy as well17:43
sergiusenspmcgowan: does adb work at all?17:43
sergiusensogra_: ack17:43
pmcgowannope17:43
ogra_grab a working boot.img then17:43
pmcgowansergiusens, tried long press to turn on, it makes the noise but not coming up17:43
ogra_and re-flash it from fastboot17:43
pmcgowanhow do I tell if its on using fastboot17:44
sergiusenspmcgowan: it has the green android and a big START button17:44
sergiusenspopey: osk is in phablet-extras17:44
pmcgowansergiusens, not so much17:45
sergiusenspmcgowan: what do you see?17:45
pmcgowanblackness17:45
ogra_you need to hold the vol keys when pressing power17:45
sergiusenspmcgowan: oh, to get to the bootloader you need to powercycle with vol up and down pressed17:45
pmcgowansergiusens, vg17:45
sergiusenspmcgowan: what's the md5sum of the boot image I gave you?17:46
pmcgowansergiusens, back in bizness, now what17:46
ogra_grab a working boot.img from cdimage17:46
ogra_and use the fastboot flash line above17:46
sergiusenspmcgowan: you have one in the recent downlosd you just did17:46
pmcgowan9a02b210a20b29b78e051502a8a8edff  manta_boot.img17:47
ogra_ah, right, from cache :)17:47
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sergiusenspmcgowan: checksum is wrong :-/17:47
sergiusenshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5642218/17:48
sergiusenspmcgowan: one on my machine and on lillypilly do match, can you try and redownload17:48
sergiusens?17:48
pmcgowanok17:49
sergiusenspmcgowan: your network is too bleeding edge :-)17:49
sergiusenspmcgowan: the md5sum is in the pastebin above17:49
pmcgowanok matches now, trying again17:51
sergiusenspmcgowan: are you using firefox to download? IIRC it doesn't rename the file that is being downloaded, so it could of been an incomplete one17:52
pmcgowansergiusens, so its rebooted but adb cannot see it17:54
sergiusenspmcgowan: hmmm... can you go back to the bootloader and run sudo fastboot -w17:55
sergiusenspmcgowan: you will most likely get a black screen, but adb should work17:55
sergiusensI may need to workaround that persistent setting in your /data/properties ...17:56
pmcgowansergiusens, let me undo my mtp fix again then try17:56
pmcgowanstill not will try the wipe17:58
sergiusenspmcgowan: so I know what the problem is, just trying to think about a clean upgrade for everyone17:59
pmcgowansergiusens, ok wiped now reboot?18:01
sergiusenspmcgowan: yes18:01
sergiusenspmcgowan: you will most likely get a black screen18:01
sergiusensbut we want to know if adb works18:01
pmcgowansergiusens, it keeps shutting down18:02
pmcgowanshows the battery18:02
sergiusenspmcgowan: so, you have the boot image I gave you and you wiped and now it won't boot? Going to try that18:04
pmcgowansergiusens, correct, it starts to come up, shows the logo then shuts down18:04
sergiusenspmcgowan: one sec18:08
sergiusenspmcgowan: ok, go to the bootloader, from there, with vol buttons go to recovery and press power to select. Deploy from zip and get the latest raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip on there with sideload18:12
sergiusenspmcgowan: so not deploy from zip, but sideload on device and adb sideload raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip on your desktop18:12
sergiusenspmcgowan: don't take too much time from when you start the sideload on your device and press the enter key on your workstations18:13
pmcgowansergiusens, ok but isnt that already loaded?18:15
sergiusenspmcgowan: we wiped it with fastboot -w18:16
pmcgowansergiusens, so how do i do the sideload? just push it somewhere>18:17
sergiusenspmcgowan: are you already in the recovery menus?18:17
pmcgowansergiusens, yes18:17
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sergiusenspmcgowan: do you see the 'sideload' option?18:18
pmcgowandoing it18:18
pmcgowannice ubuntu logo18:18
sergiusenspmcgowan: you only get updates for that when you bootstrap :-P18:18
pmcgowansergiusens, so I think it worked18:23
rickspencer3mhall119|away, is anyone working on a tumblr app?18:23
sergiusenspmcgowan: and no more mtp issues, right?18:24
pmcgowansergiusens, yeah, but right now it needs permissions, thats the other part of the fix18:24
sergiusenspmcgowan: permissions?18:25
sergiusenswhat and for what?18:25
pmcgowansergiusens, since its not getting set up as mtp, usb device defaults to 664 mode18:25
pmcgowanand adb needs 66618:25
pmcgowanotherwise needs to be root18:25
sergiusenspmcgowan: ah, k18:25
sergiusenspmcgowan: want to get the upgrade path solved though, needs to be non invasive18:26
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pmcgowansergiusens, from syslog18:28
pmcgowanay  7 14:26:55 pat-samsung mtp-probe: checking bus 2, device 55: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.2"18:28
pmcgowanMay  7 14:26:55 pat-samsung mtp-probe: bus: 2, device: 55 was not an MTP device18:28
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sergiusenspmcgowan: it's just a probe, isn't that done for anything plugged?18:34
pmcgowansergiusens, its recognized but the default in the rules is 066418:35
pmcgowansergiusens, folks generally make an android rules udev file to default these devices to 0666, I have a note in the bug18:38
sergiusenspmcgowan: I thought ogra_ mentioned it's fixed in the latest android tools18:38
ChickenCutlasssergiusens, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5642349/18:39
ogra_yeah, thats not needed18:39
pmcgowanogra_, whats not? I should have the latest tools18:41
ogra_pmcgowan, well, i thought the package ships a udev rule ... but i just checked and at least in raring it doesnt18:43
ogra_the fastboot package ships one18:43
ogra_but only for nexus718:43
pmcgowanright same issue18:43
pmcgowanwe can put one in phablet-tools?18:43
sergiusenspmcgowan: ogra_ well if it's not there I'll take care of it18:44
ogra_well, its a bug in android-tools-adb18:44
pmcgowanI am not sure how you do it for only devices wanting adb18:44
ogra_put it into phablet-tools for a quickfix, but also file a bug and attach the rule for android-tools-adb18:44
sergiusenspmcgowan: also, what bug number are you talking about?18:45
sergiusensogra_: I was planning to fix it in the android-tools package18:45
pmcgowanbug #116084718:45
ubot5bug 1160847 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "gvfs should not attempt to mount MTP devices in an endless loop (cluttering your desktop with messages)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116084718:45
ogra_sergiusens, perfect !18:45
sergiusensalready was aquainted with it18:45
pmcgowansergiusens, but how would you fix it?18:45
sergiusenspmcgowan: add the udev rules to the package18:46
ogra_sergiusens, just steal the one from the fastboot package18:46
ogra_and adjust the device ids18:46
sergiusensalso will check we have all the ids18:46
sergiusensyeah that :-)18:46
pmcgowansergiusens, so it would only set up the device if it had adb enabled?18:46
ogra_it should dtrt18:46
ogra_pmcgowan, the USB device registers it with a special id if adb is enabled18:47
ogra_(well, at least it should)18:47
sergiusensogra_: I'll cross check that18:47
pmcgowanthats what I am looking for, not know where to look18:47
ogra_(though the same id matches the mtp device too ... )18:47
pmcgowannot seeing it18:47
pmcgowansergiusens, in lsusb output    iInterface             10 ADB Interface18:49
ogra_udevadm monitor --property18:49
ogra_though a bit niosy18:49
ogra_*noisy18:49
ogra_udevadm monitor --property|grep PRODUCT18:52
ogra_better :)18:52
pmcgowanbut that doesnt indicate adb enabled?18:52
ogra_well, it will be different from USB mass storage mode or from fastboot mode on the same device, the ID changes respectively18:53
ogra_it shares the same ID with mtp (as i said above)18:54
kenvandineSaviq, did you see my ping earlier, about dropping the online-accounts-qt5-staging ppa?18:57
kenvandineogra_, ^^18:57
kenvandinewe don't need it anymore18:57
ogra_ok18:58
pmcgowanogra_, I see18:58
pmcgowanit did change id with the patch18:58
ogra_great18:58
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Josh__Hello20:37
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iBelieveI've installed Unity Next on the desktop, but now I think it is messing up compilation of a KDE application. Is there any way to remove it and all dependencies and changes it has made?21:48
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Sashmo_anyone have an idea why vlc wouldnt open a UDP unicast in linux, but it opens in windows??22:06
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