[00:09] <veebers> sergiusens: I tried sudo adb start-server, adb devices shows the same error
[00:11] <sergiusens> veebers: image might be busted. Can you revert with that thing I showed you a while back? I'll get a fix in the meantime...
[00:11] <Lancertz> Does anybody know how wifi version of galaxy tab 10.1 is progressing?
[00:16] <veebers> sergiusens: cool,  I'll try find those revert details
[00:37] <Lancertz> Anybody home
[03:04] <blmvxer> I'm messing around with Ubuntu Touch(raring) on my nexus 7, and I can access the native terminal app while using adb. but its a pain to have to plug it in and do all that jazz just to have it running. is there anyway I can remove some mock apps or move it forwared in the Installed apps list?
[05:11] <diwic> Hi! I'm trying to install the Touch image on a Nexus 7, but I can't get it to show up in adb. I've tried both fastboot mode and recovery mode.
[05:11] <diwic> (And the standard android is currently not available, can't boot into that.)
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> diwic, You have the usb debug ticked in developer in android? you LOAD IT FRON THE TERMINAL.
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> Sorry for the caps, lol
[05:50] <diwic> wilee-nilee, I don't have android, the current install is ubuntu-desktop
[05:50] <diwic> (sorry for the late answer)
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> diwic, Yeah I figured that out Doh. I don't really have an answer as I thought it was just loading a install.
[05:53] <diwic> wilee-nilee,  thanks anyway, hopefully somebody else comes around for some assistance.
[05:53] <diwic> wilee-nilee, worst case I guess I could try reinstalling android just for flashing the touch image.
[06:44] <popey> Morning
[06:45] <popey> diwic: you may have to flash back to android using the process outlined on the /Touch/Install page on the wiki, to do a clean start
[06:45] <diwic> popey, okay, so there is no way to "upgrade" directly from the desktop image to the touch image?
[06:46] <popey> diwic: there may be, but I'm not aware of it, and we never documented one AFAIAA
[06:47] <diwic> ok
[06:49] <jGleitz> Morning!
[06:49] <jGleitz> Does anybody know wether there will be an Emulator for Ubuntu Touch in the near future? Or is it somehow possible to run it in an VM?
[06:50] <popey> hi jGleitz we're certainly investigating possibilities in that regard, but don't have a solution just yet for full system emulation
[06:51] <jGleitz> popey: Alright, thank you
[06:59] <dholbach> good morning
[08:27] <mardy> is there a way for an application to know the device's form factor?
[08:58] <mpt> cyphermox, hi, let me know when you're around to discuss Bluetooth on the phone. I'm going to start with just headsets since that's the only ELS item.
[09:08] <diwic> mpt, I would also like to join
[09:09] <mpt> ok
[09:24] <Nicole> hello
[09:24] <Guest65754> can anyone help me with nexus 10?
[09:24] <Guest65754> I'm stuck at step2 from the instructions
[09:30]  * mpt wonders how many subscribers https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bluetooth/ has
[09:40] <seb128> mpt, ask StevenK, he's admin for the list and has access to the infos ;-)
[10:48] <tsdgeos> pete-woods: seen the bug i've created for the hud?
[10:48] <pete-woods> tsdgeos: no, I'll have a look
[10:49] <tsdgeos> pete-woods: i can't speak anymore
[10:49] <tsdgeos> says can't open audio device
[10:49] <pete-woods> strange
[10:49] <pete-woods> I haven't changed anything related to voice code in months
[11:50] <pete-woods> tsdgeos: so I'm trying to debug this, but unity keeps recognising my Nexus 10 as an MTP device and trying to mount it, which disconnects the adb debugger
[11:50] <pete-woods> is this some new "feature"?
[11:50] <tsdgeos> yes
[11:50] <tsdgeos> same thing greyback was just complaining about
[11:50] <pete-woods> ahh
[11:51] <greyback> tsdgeos: pray enlighten us :)
[11:51]  * tsdgeos is looking thoruhg various irc logs, please be patient
[11:51] <greyback> adb shell setprop persist.sys.usb.config ptp,adb ?
[11:52] <tsdgeos> sothing like that
[11:52] <tsdgeos> Saviq was the one that gave them to me
[11:52] <greyback> doesn't appear to make any difference
[11:52] <Saviq> greyback,
[11:53] <pete-woods> is there a way to just turn off MTP support for the time-being?
[11:53] <Saviq> adb shell setprop sys.usb.config ptp,adb
[11:53] <Saviq> adb shell setprop persist.sys.usb.config ptp,adb
[11:53] <Saviq> pete-woods, greyback, the former one sets it for the current session, the latter so that it persists across reboots
[11:53] <tsdgeos> lunch!
[11:54] <greyback> Saviq: I was missing the first one. Thanks
[11:54] <pete-woods> Saviq: awesome, thanks!
[11:57] <greyback> hmm, I'm still seeing USB removal/insertions
[12:41] <popey> greyback: tsdgeos pete-woods: dconf-editor, org -> gnome -> desktop -> media-handling -> untick "automount" and the issue is gone
[12:42] <greyback> popey: that works too, thanks
[12:43] <pmcgowan> popey, is that the mtp mount thing
[12:43] <popey> the popup you get from nautilus periodically, yes
[12:45] <pmcgowan> popey, this is how I fixed it so mtp still works generally fwiw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1160847/comments/7
[12:45] <pmcgowan> we really need to fix the image to not declare it can do mtp
[13:02] <seb128> popey, your workaround breaks automounting of usb keys, cameras, music players, etc
[13:02] <seb128> just for info
[13:02] <ogra_> pmcgowan, i thought sergiusens  wanted to look into that (either way, telling the host we cant do mtp should be equally sufficient ... just not giving any answer seems to be confusing)
[13:02] <pmcgowan> ogra_, right
[13:02] <popey> correct seb128 ☻
[13:02] <pmcgowan> seb128, my workaround is better for that
[13:02] <popey> but then I hate all automounting ☻
[13:03] <seb128> pmcgowan, editing the libmtp udev file?
[13:03] <pmcgowan> yes, and adding the other rule to avoid sudo
[13:03] <ogra_> no, adding an additional rule
[13:03] <seb128> ok
[13:03] <ogra_> you can easily do it in a higher sequenced file
[13:03] <pmcgowan> right
[13:04] <pmcgowan> I am no udev rules expert
[13:04] <seb128> well, best option is still to make the device tells that it doesn't support mtp if we can do that ... did we get any news from sergiusens on that?
[13:04] <ogra_> not yet, nope
[13:04] <ogra_> but he has been pinged a lot above now :)
[13:05] <ogra_> i guess he will answer once he is here
[13:10] <pete-woods> popey: the real problem with the MTP mount for me is not the messages, but that fact that it disconnects my adb shell
[13:11] <pete-woods> making it impossible to debug apps on the phablet
[13:11] <popey> pete-woods: ditto
[13:11]  * popey tries the fix pmcgowan posted above and re-enables automounting
[13:12] <seb128> pete-woods, turn off automount, you can also install openssh-server and ssh to the tablet rather than using adb
[13:12] <pmcgowan> popey, has anyone set something to the email list yet?
[13:12] <pmcgowan> pete-woods, use phablet-network-setup -i
[13:12] <pmcgowan> but flashing gets interrupted, its bad
[13:13] <popey> pmcgowan: not that I'm aware of, I thought i was the only one suffering with this
[13:13] <popey> given I'd seen nobody mention it here
[13:14] <pmcgowan> I think we are all hitting it on raring
[13:14] <pmcgowan> host
[13:14] <pmcgowan> popey, lets wait for sergio then send an update to the list
[13:16] <mterry> Saviq, you mentioned using itemAt to find the delegate and just using delegate properties.  However...  itemAt takes x,y parameters, which is awkward when you have an index value.  Plus, let's say we eventually get around to adding keyboard navigation like the desktop greeter has.  Home will zoom to the first item in the list.  In such a case, will Qt create the delegate before it's on-screen?
[13:16] <ogra_> xnox, do you have any idea which of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/livecd-rootfs/saucy/files/head:/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/ will be handled by the first boot wizard ?
[13:17] <greyback> popey: it'll save you from this anyway: http://i.imgur.com/4jh40BH.jpg :D
[13:17] <ogra_> (if any)
[13:17] <greyback> popey: lots of error dialogs!
[13:18] <pete-woods> popey, seb128: I followed Saviq's instructions to disable ptp, etc on the tablet, and that already worked
[13:18] <pete-woods> but thanks for the help anyway! :)
[13:20] <pmcgowan> seb128, is telepathy-ofono another python2.7 depender?
[13:21] <doomlord> hows' ubuntu touch these days .... does it have a terminal app yet
[13:21] <seb128> pmcgowan, it's using telepathy-python which is python2 yes
[13:21] <pmcgowan> seb128, is it also written in python
[13:22] <seb128> pmcgowan, but I think there is/was working ongoing to replace that
[13:22] <pmcgowan> thats what I want to check on
[13:23] <seb128> pmcgowan, I've that in my IRC logs
[13:23] <seb128> Ubuntu Server-#ubuntu-touch.log:mars 04 19:47:29 <boiko>	matge: we have updated the telepathy specs in there, but at some point we will move away from telepathy-python
[13:23] <pmcgowan> seb128, ack
[13:26] <seb128> pmcgowan, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1303-apps-telephony has
[13:26] <seb128>  [tiagosh] Port telepathy-ofono away from python-telepathy: INPROGRESS
[13:26] <seb128>  telepathy-ofono analysis/rewrite (not rely on telepathy-python): TODO
[13:27] <seb128> pmcgowan, so I guess tiago/gustavo have the details
[13:27] <ogra_> i guess editing out the mtp bits in http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_tuna.git;a=blob_plain;f=init.tuna.usb.rc;hb=bb2936186bfb30a3f67d81010ccdd1f9af035798 (and their equivalent for the other devices) will quieten mtp
[13:28] <ogra_> sergiusens, ^^^
[13:38] <pmcgowan> seb128, is there a blueprint for the image build transition in general? looking for a place to add some tasks like fixing python deps
[13:39] <seb128> pmcgowan, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-ubuntu-touch-porting
[13:40] <pmcgowan> seb128, perfect thanks
[13:40] <seb128> pmcgowan, yw
[13:43] <sergiusens> ogra_: seb128 yeah, did that last night... was having problems with grouper though
[13:43] <sergiusens> seb128: ogra_ also, we are not building the mtp server
[13:43] <sergiusens> or using it for that matter
[13:44] <ogra_> well, i think the prob is that the gadget driver exposes mtp
[13:44] <ogra_> without offering the endpoint
[13:44] <ogra_> which is what you should be able to switch off in init.rc
[13:46] <ogra_> sergiusens, what were the probs with grouper ?
[13:47] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ogra_: I had no reviewers yesterday, but this is what I did for manta http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/mtp/
[13:48] <sergiusens> ogra_: problem with grouper is if you change the persist.config or the init stuff you lose adb... need to look into it a bit more
[13:48] <ogra_> well
[13:48] <ogra_> looking at your patch i wouldnt completely remove the mtp,adb thing
[13:48] <sergiusens> ogra_: just the OVERRIDE thing?
[13:49] <ogra_> in the second block
[13:49] <ogra_> on property:sys.usb.config=mtp,adb
[13:49] <ogra_> make that on property:sys.usb.config=adb
[13:49] <sergiusens> ogra_: so mtp and mtp,adb or just mtp,adb?
[13:49] <sergiusens> ogra_: that's already in the defaul init.rc
[13:49] <ogra_> drop all traces of mtp ... but keep adb
[13:49] <ogra_> ah
[13:50] <ogra_> even on grouper ?
[13:50] <sergiusens> ogra_: yes, but on grouper, even with today's build, if you tell it to use only adb, you lose the adb connection for some reason
[13:51] <ogra_> weird
[13:51] <sergiusens> ogra_: it was late last night that I decided to try this grouper thing... might be resolved today...
[13:51] <sergiusens> but grouper in general _is_ weird :-P
[13:52] <ogra_> heh
[13:52] <ogra_> its such a breeze if used with plain linux/xorg
[13:52] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, ogra_ sorry to say it but in general lets lower any priority on grouper, too many issues
[13:52] <ogra_> funny that it has so many probs under android
[13:52] <ogra_> (it is the easiest arm device to run a desktop on)
[13:53] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ok, well I solved the mtp issues for manta... been running it locally yesterday, just that I had no reviewers so I didn't apply the patch :-)
[13:54] <pmcgowan> fair enough
[13:54] <ogra_> well, it looks good to me
[13:54] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, is someone testing now?
[13:54] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: not many people had manta's that were online yesterday
[13:55] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, which one is manta
[13:55] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: nexus 10
[13:56] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: I have a local build here: http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/mtp/
[13:56] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, I have one if it helps
[13:56] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: can you download that, then adb push that_file.zip /sdcard/autodeploy.zip; adb reboot recovery and tell me if it shows up?
[13:57] <pmcgowan> ok
[13:58] <sergiusens> ogra_: one more http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/0001-Remove-the-need-of-signapk.patch
[13:59] <sergiusens> I'll be removing all the other jars today (around 4 more built)
[13:59] <sergiusens> dholbach: hey! do you by any chance know about the status of our gerrit instance?
[13:59] <dholbach> no
[13:59] <dholbach> I don't know - is there an RT for it?
[14:00] <sergiusens> dholbach: that's what I was hoping to get out of you :-)
[14:00] <dholbach> no, I wasn't involved in any of the discussions, but just aware that something like this would be needed
[14:00] <dholbach> I never touched anything related to gerrit at all :-/
[14:01] <sergiusens> dholbach: me neither... I guess I'll bring it back when rsalveti gets back
[14:01] <sergiusens> don't mind doing it myself though :-)
[14:02] <dholbach> maybe searching for gerrit in the RT db will help?
[14:02] <sergiusens> dholbach: good idea
[14:02] <ogra_> sergiusens, tested ?
[14:03] <ogra_> (i.e. does the zip still install)
[14:03] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, after reboot recovery then what?
[14:04] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: just wait
[14:05] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, it went into the menu
[14:05] <sergiusens> ogra_: yes it does... I did a make clobber just in case... I can retest
[14:05] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: did you type /sdcard/autodeploy.zip properly?
[14:06] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, looks right
[14:06] <pmcgowan> I can reboot and see f its there
[14:06] <ogra_> sergiusens, nah, happy with a single test, go for it
[14:08] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: do you remember how to manually deploy a zip? It should be in the menus with that name.... my guess is that you may not be running our recovery image
[14:08] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, its in /sdcard/0 I can manually select it
[14:08] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, just inherited this manta
[14:09] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, shall I do that or is there other approach?
[14:09] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: do that fr this test, but after this, do a 'phablet-flash -b'
[14:10] <pmcgowan> ack
[14:19] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, still getting mtp mounts
[14:23] <ogra_> pmcgowan, your rule reverted ?
[14:23] <ogra_> +with
[14:24] <cyphermox> diwic: mpt: I have time now.
[14:24] <diwic> cyphermox, me too
[14:24] <diwic> cyphermox, hi! :-)
[14:24] <cyphermox> hey ;)
[14:26] <diwic> cyphermox, well, I was just thinking; if you're having a problem with the bluez <-> PA connection I might be able to help out or talk to people who know more than me in that area
[14:26] <diwic> cyphermox, but I'm also curious of the current status
[14:26] <popey> hmm, bfiller where's upstream for qml-phone-shell? it comes from the phablet-team ppa on the device.. does it have its own project somewhere?
[14:26] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: what's the output of adb shell getprop| grep sys.usb.config
[14:26] <pmcgowan> ogra_, yes I took out my fix and tried sergiusens patch
[14:27] <sergiusens> popey: lp:unity/phablet
[14:27] <popey> its not listed as a sub-project of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview
[14:27] <cyphermox> diwic: I think it just works fine on the nexus 4... the nexus 7 / galaxy nexus might be a different story
[14:27] <popey> oh
[14:27] <popey> ta
[14:27] <bfiller> popey: it's lp:unity/phablet I believe
[14:27] <cyphermox> diwic: but if pulseaudio can successfully send sound out the speakers, then I don't foresee issues
[14:27] <sergiusens> bfiller: it is
[14:27] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, hmm no diff
[14:27] <pmcgowan> [persist.sys.usb.config]: [mtp,adb]
[14:27] <bfiller> popey: but check with Saviq on where to file bugs for that, they might be doing something different
[14:27] <pmcgowan> [sys.usb.config]: [mtp,adb]
[14:27] <popey> roger
[14:28] <diwic> cyphermox, how do you usually test bt on the touch image?
[14:28] <cyphermox> diwic: I'm not sure what you mean by "how"? I just pair devices and try to make them work
[14:28] <diwic> cyphermox, e g how do you pair the device?
[14:29] <cyphermox> using bluez's test suite, basically
[14:29] <Saviq> popey, lp:unity/phablet
[14:29] <Saviq> popey, as for bugs, we don't yet have a place better than phablet-team
[14:30] <popey> ok
[14:31] <diwic> cyphermox, ok, will try bluez-test-discovery and see what happens
[14:31] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: wrong image then :-( I'll upload  a correct one
[14:31] <cyphermox> diwic: that will just list devices in proximity
[14:32] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, ok in the meantime I am back to whack a mole on these mount popups
[14:32] <sergiusens> ogra_: yeah, but we can decouple it from there at least (the zip)
[14:32] <sergiusens> ogra_: wrong channel :-P
[14:33] <ogra_> heh
[14:33] <cyphermox> you basically want to use test-proximity to get their MAC, then test-device create <MAC> to create the device and then something like test-audio connect <MAC> to actually use them
[14:33] <cyphermox> diwic: : ^
[14:33] <acovrig> With the current plan, can I open a terminal and use sudo commands on the ubuntu touch?
[14:34] <popey> acovrig: you can ssh in if you want, the phablet default user also has sudo rights
[14:34] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: well, it should look like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5641643/
[14:34] <pmcgowan> agreed
[14:34] <pmcgowan> so either I screwed something up or that was the wrong zip
[14:35] <acovrig> popey, would I have to ssh 127.0.0.1, or could I just open something like gnome-terminal?
[14:35] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: yeah... not sure what but I wasn't myself yesterday :-)
[14:35] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, double check it and I will try again
[14:35] <acovrig> because as-is, I have a ubuntu 9 chroot on my HTC, and I would like at least the same abilities...
[14:36] <diwic> cyphermox, thanks, will try
[14:36] <popey> acovrig: we have a terminal app
[14:36] <popey> acovrig: you can ssh to the IP address of the wifi device
[14:37] <popey> acovrig: or adb shell over a usb cable
[14:37] <acovrig> OK, and looking at the site, there are 4 devices listed, are those the only that it works with or only tested with?
[14:38] <popey> they're the ones we test with, yes. other devices have community maintained ports acovrig
[14:39] <acovrig> popey, where may I find the community maintained ports (I have the HTC Evo 3D)?
[14:39] <popey> acovrig: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[14:41] <mpt> cyphermox, I don't now, sorry. :-/ Same time tomorrow?
[14:41] <cyphermox> or earlier?
[14:41] <diwic> cyphermox, hmm, those commands seem to work from root@phablet but not from phablet@phablet
[14:42] <cyphermox> diwic: yeah, from the test suite that is possible
[14:42] <cyphermox> but that would be an issue at the bluez level, I'll investigate and fix
[14:43] <diwic> cyphermox, I get an "dbus rejected send message"
[14:44] <cyphermox> ok
[14:44] <cyphermox> for which message?
[14:45] <diwic> cyphermox, paste.ubuntu.com/5641680
[14:46] <cyphermox> mpt: ok, so basically 14 UTC tomorrow?
[14:47] <mpt> cyphermox, yes, if that suits you
[14:47] <cyphermox> alright
[14:47] <diwic> mpt, btw, what's the meeting about, and would you like me to attend?
[14:47] <mpt> diwic, to review my first draft of a UI design for setting up a Bluetooth headset.
[14:49] <diwic> mpt, ok. I might join in, if I'm not there, just go ahead without me. :-)
[14:49] <diwic> mpt, is that ok with you?
[14:49] <mpt> sure
[14:54] <pete-woods> tsdgeos: I have a fix for the voice bug
[14:55] <cyphermox> mpt: diwic: I made a meeting entry in calendar, invited both of you.
[15:01] <pete-woods> tsdgeos: https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/hud/voice-bug-1177226/+merge/162792
[15:03] <bcurtiswx> has the kernel issue been fixed where it won't allow mounts from the nexus devices
[15:03] <bcurtiswx> well in my case it was the N7
[15:03] <bcurtiswx> in saucy
[15:06] <diwic> cyphermox, ok, I've come as far as getting the same/similar access denied error from pulseaudio when it tries to connect to bluez over dbus.
[15:06] <cyphermox> ok
[15:08] <diwic> cyphermox, anyway, just to confirm; the plan is to use the bluez - pulseaudio connection just as we do on the desktop, correct?
[15:08] <cyphermox> correct.
[15:08] <diwic> cyphermox, filed bug 1177421
[15:09] <cyphermox> oh hey, that will impede our work somewhat ;)
[15:09] <diwic> :-)
[15:11] <diwic> cyphermox, want me to file one more for the dbus permission issue or you will just fix it?
[15:11] <diwic> cyphermox, not that I'm sure where to file it.
[15:11] <cyphermox> diwic: I'm not ready to work on this yet, can you file it under bluez?
[15:11] <cyphermox> I'll get back to it in a few minutes
[15:12] <diwic> cyphermox, ok, will do, thanks!
[15:12] <cyphermox> thanks!
[15:17] <diwic> cyphermox, filed bug 1177424.
[15:18] <morphis> diwic: ping
[15:18] <diwic> morphis, hi
[15:18] <morphis> didrocks: hey
[15:19] <morphis> didrocks: have one question about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-sound-support-pulse-audioflinger
[15:19] <morphis> didrocks: sorry, I meant diwic :)
[15:19] <morphis> diwic: about the point "[diwic] Write guide on how to port the mixer (from xml file to either UCM or PulseAudio profile): DONE"
[15:19] <didrocks> no worry :)
[15:19] <morphis> bad auto completion
[15:19] <morphis> diwic: where do I find the guide?
[15:20] <popey> sergiusens: do we have a bug for the blank / non-functional media side of the image? it's been broken for a week or so
[15:20] <diwic> morphis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Core/PulseaudioProfiles
[15:20] <morphis> diwic: thanks a lot
[15:20] <popey> media player gives me a white blank screen, and other apps (like dropping letters) do the same, which seem to be media related as it plays music when starting
[15:21] <diwic> morphis, that said, it looks like there might be additional stuff to deal with before this "just works", e g permission for pulseaudio to use the sound device directly
[15:21] <morphis> yes, it's not that easy
[15:21] <morphis> I am working here at the same story but within the webOS ports project
[15:22] <diwic> morphis, ah, ok :-)
[15:23] <morphis> :)
[15:25] <The_Letter_M> Hello all
[15:25] <morphis> diwic: if I am reading the blueprint right is to go the way to just plain ALSA and pulseaudio on top
[15:26] <The_Letter_M> Will Ubuntu Touch work with the Verizon G Nex?
[15:27] <diwic> morphis, as of today's daily image on the Nexus 7 we're still using audioflinger. That's as much as I know right now.
[15:27] <morphis> diwic: hm, ok
[15:39] <The_Letter_M> Will Ubuntu Touch work with the Verizon G Nex?
[15:40] <brion_> The_Letter_M: it runs, but doesn't make calls etc.
[15:40] <The_Letter_M> oh
[15:40] <brion_> fine for a test device as long as you're not testing the cell part :)
[15:41] <The_Letter_M> lol
[15:41] <The_Letter_M> Good to know
[15:41] <The_Letter_M> since it's my only phone ATM
[15:41] <brion_> heh yeah don't flash your only phone yet
[15:41] <brion_> things are still young :)
[15:42] <The_Letter_M> Yeah I moved all my apps from my phone to my N7 last night so I could still use them
[16:38] <didrocks> sergiusens: rsalveti: FYI, I have written today the support to have every commits in the changelog
[16:39] <didrocks> just waiting for next week to push it as I'll be away until then
[16:39] <didrocks> and I don't want to take risks ;)
[16:54] <popey> sergiusens: see my mention earlier about audio/video playback being borked? is it on someone's radar?
[16:54] <sergiusens> popey: is there a bug?
[16:54] <sergiusens> popey: haven't flashed today, doing local builds here
[16:55] <sergiusens> popey: well, if it was the issue from last week bfiller tracked it down to an sdk issue
[16:55] <sergiusens> with how theming is done
[16:55] <bfiller> sergiusens, popey : renato_ is looking into it, sdk fix landed that was supposed to fix it but didn't seem to
[16:56] <bfiller> popey: please file bug if you don't mind as I don't think there is one entered
[16:58]  * sergiusens will brb, network restart
[17:10] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, got an update for me to test?
[17:15] <popey> bfiller: ok
[17:15] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: not yet, but did you phablet-flash btw?
[17:15] <sergiusens> with -b
[17:15] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, no, will do that now
[17:24] <popey> bfiller: sergiusens bug 1175394
[17:25] <sergiusens> popey: can you add the output of adb shell grep JENKINS /system/ubuntu_stamp ?
[17:26] <popey> sure
[17:32] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: also, what's the output of your /data/property/persist.sys.usb.config
[17:32] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, I just reflashed
[17:33] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: yeah, I want to know the value now after you did a flash with -b :-)
[17:33] <pmcgowan> ok
[17:33] <pmcgowan> mtp,adb
[17:34] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, ^^
[17:35] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ty... here's the boot.img http://people.canonical.com/~sergiusens/mtp/manta_boot.img
[17:35] <sergiusens> using that since it is smaller
[17:36] <sergiusens> to flash... adb reboot bootloader; sudo fastboot flash boot manta_boot.img; sudo fastboot reboot
[17:36] <pmcgowan> ok
[17:40] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, umm it didnt boot
[17:40] <popey> sergiusens: JENKINS_BUILD=116
[17:41] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: how old was the image you had on there?
[17:41] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, brand new
[17:41] <popey> is the osk still under the springbok project or somewhere else?
[17:41] <ogra_> sergiusens, hmm, i had that on yesterdays saucy build too iirc
[17:42] <sergiusens> ogra_: the no boot? But I just flashed that same image :-/
[17:42] <ogra_> no, the no mediaplayer :)
[17:42] <ogra_> (dont panic :) )
[17:42] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, whats next? its not booting at all
[17:42] <sergiusens> ogra_: oh, mediaplayer is a know issue... not worried there
[17:43] <ogra_> yeah, just wanted to confirm its in saucy as well
[17:43] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: does adb work at all?
[17:43] <sergiusens> ogra_: ack
[17:43] <pmcgowan> nope
[17:43] <ogra_> grab a working boot.img then
[17:43] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, tried long press to turn on, it makes the noise but not coming up
[17:43] <ogra_> and re-flash it from fastboot
[17:44] <pmcgowan> how do I tell if its on using fastboot
[17:44] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: it has the green android and a big START button
[17:44] <sergiusens> popey: osk is in phablet-extras
[17:45] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, not so much
[17:45] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: what do you see?
[17:45] <pmcgowan> blackness
[17:45] <ogra_> you need to hold the vol keys when pressing power
[17:45] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: oh, to get to the bootloader you need to powercycle with vol up and down pressed
[17:45] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, vg
[17:46] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: what's the md5sum of the boot image I gave you?
[17:46] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, back in bizness, now what
[17:46] <ogra_> grab a working boot.img from cdimage
[17:46] <ogra_> and use the fastboot flash line above
[17:46] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: you have one in the recent downlosd you just did
[17:47] <pmcgowan> 9a02b210a20b29b78e051502a8a8edff  manta_boot.img
[17:47] <ogra_> ah, right, from cache :)
[17:47] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: checksum is wrong :-/
[17:48] <sergiusens> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642218/
[17:48] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: one on my machine and on lillypilly do match, can you try and redownload
[17:48] <sergiusens> ?
[17:49] <pmcgowan> ok
[17:49] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: your network is too bleeding edge :-)
[17:49] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: the md5sum is in the pastebin above
[17:51] <pmcgowan> ok matches now, trying again
[17:52] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: are you using firefox to download? IIRC it doesn't rename the file that is being downloaded, so it could of been an incomplete one
[17:54] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, so its rebooted but adb cannot see it
[17:55] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: hmmm... can you go back to the bootloader and run sudo fastboot -w
[17:55] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: you will most likely get a black screen, but adb should work
[17:56] <sergiusens> I may need to workaround that persistent setting in your /data/properties ...
[17:56] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, let me undo my mtp fix again then try
[17:58] <pmcgowan> still not will try the wipe
[17:59] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: so I know what the problem is, just trying to think about a clean upgrade for everyone
[18:01] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, ok wiped now reboot?
[18:01] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: yes
[18:01] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: you will most likely get a black screen
[18:01] <sergiusens> but we want to know if adb works
[18:02] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, it keeps shutting down
[18:02] <pmcgowan> shows the battery
[18:04] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: so, you have the boot image I gave you and you wiped and now it won't boot? Going to try that
[18:04] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, correct, it starts to come up, shows the logo then shuts down
[18:08] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: one sec
[18:12] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ok, go to the bootloader, from there, with vol buttons go to recovery and press power to select. Deploy from zip and get the latest raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip on there with sideload
[18:12] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: so not deploy from zip, but sideload on device and adb sideload raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip on your desktop
[18:13] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: don't take too much time from when you start the sideload on your device and press the enter key on your workstations
[18:15] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, ok but isnt that already loaded?
[18:16] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: we wiped it with fastboot -w
[18:17] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, so how do i do the sideload? just push it somewhere>
[18:17] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: are you already in the recovery menus?
[18:17] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, yes
[18:18] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: do you see the 'sideload' option?
[18:18] <pmcgowan> doing it
[18:18] <pmcgowan> nice ubuntu logo
[18:18] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: you only get updates for that when you bootstrap :-P
[18:23] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, so I think it worked
[18:23] <rickspencer3> mhall119|away, is anyone working on a tumblr app?
[18:24] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: and no more mtp issues, right?
[18:24] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, yeah, but right now it needs permissions, thats the other part of the fix
[18:25] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: permissions?
[18:25] <sergiusens> what and for what?
[18:25] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, since its not getting set up as mtp, usb device defaults to 664 mode
[18:25] <pmcgowan> and adb needs 666
[18:25] <pmcgowan> otherwise needs to be root
[18:25] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ah, k
[18:26] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: want to get the upgrade path solved though, needs to be non invasive
[18:28] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, from syslog
[18:28] <pmcgowan> ay  7 14:26:55 pat-samsung mtp-probe: checking bus 2, device 55: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.2"
[18:28] <pmcgowan> May  7 14:26:55 pat-samsung mtp-probe: bus: 2, device: 55 was not an MTP device
[18:34] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: it's just a probe, isn't that done for anything plugged?
[18:35] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, its recognized but the default in the rules is 0664
[18:38] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, folks generally make an android rules udev file to default these devices to 0666, I have a note in the bug
[18:38] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: I thought ogra_ mentioned it's fixed in the latest android tools
[18:39] <ChickenCutlass> sergiusens, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5642349/
[18:39] <ogra_> yeah, thats not needed
[18:41] <pmcgowan> ogra_, whats not? I should have the latest tools
[18:43] <ogra_> pmcgowan, well, i thought the package ships a udev rule ... but i just checked and at least in raring it doesnt
[18:43] <ogra_> the fastboot package ships one
[18:43] <ogra_> but only for nexus7
[18:43] <pmcgowan> right same issue
[18:43] <pmcgowan> we can put one in phablet-tools?
[18:44] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ogra_ well if it's not there I'll take care of it
[18:44] <ogra_> well, its a bug in android-tools-adb
[18:44] <pmcgowan> I am not sure how you do it for only devices wanting adb
[18:44] <ogra_> put it into phablet-tools for a quickfix, but also file a bug and attach the rule for android-tools-adb
[18:45] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: also, what bug number are you talking about?
[18:45] <sergiusens> ogra_: I was planning to fix it in the android-tools package
[18:45] <pmcgowan> bug #1160847
[18:45] <ogra_> sergiusens, perfect !
[18:45] <sergiusens> already was aquainted with it
[18:45] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, but how would you fix it?
[18:46] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: add the udev rules to the package
[18:46] <ogra_> sergiusens, just steal the one from the fastboot package
[18:46] <ogra_> and adjust the device ids
[18:46] <sergiusens> also will check we have all the ids
[18:46] <sergiusens> yeah that :-)
[18:46] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, so it would only set up the device if it had adb enabled?
[18:46] <ogra_> it should dtrt
[18:47] <ogra_> pmcgowan, the USB device registers it with a special id if adb is enabled
[18:47] <ogra_> (well, at least it should)
[18:47] <sergiusens> ogra_: I'll cross check that
[18:47] <pmcgowan> thats what I am looking for, not know where to look
[18:47] <ogra_> (though the same id matches the mtp device too ... )
[18:47] <pmcgowan> not seeing it
[18:49] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, in lsusb output    iInterface             10 ADB Interface
[18:49] <ogra_> udevadm monitor --property
[18:49] <ogra_> though a bit niosy
[18:49] <ogra_> *noisy
[18:52] <ogra_> udevadm monitor --property|grep PRODUCT
[18:52] <ogra_> better :)
[18:52] <pmcgowan> but that doesnt indicate adb enabled?
[18:53] <ogra_> well, it will be different from USB mass storage mode or from fastboot mode on the same device, the ID changes respectively
[18:54] <ogra_> it shares the same ID with mtp (as i said above)
[18:57] <kenvandine> Saviq, did you see my ping earlier, about dropping the online-accounts-qt5-staging ppa?
[18:57] <kenvandine> ogra_, ^^
[18:57] <kenvandine> we don't need it anymore
[18:58] <ogra_> ok
[18:58] <pmcgowan> ogra_, I see
[18:58] <pmcgowan> it did change id with the patch
[18:58] <ogra_> great
[20:37] <Josh__> Hello
[21:48] <iBelieve> I've installed Unity Next on the desktop, but now I think it is messing up compilation of a KDE application. Is there any way to remove it and all dependencies and changes it has made?
[22:06] <Sashmo_> anyone have an idea why vlc wouldnt open a UDP unicast in linux, but it opens in windows??