/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/05/07/#ubuntu-za.txt

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Kilosmorning all06:31
Kiloshi ayanda009 06:35
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za06:36
ayanda009thank you kilos,how are you?06:37
Kilosgood ty and you?06:37
Kilosfirst time here?06:37
ayanda009yeah kilo im a male by the way06:38
Kilosmost here are this is the ubuntu za help channel06:38
Kilosare you using ubuntu?06:39
Kilosor another linux OS06:39
Kiloswindows peeps that come here we convert06:39
Kiloshehe06:40
Kiloshmm...06:43
Kiloschicken06:43
Kiloshiya maiatoday 06:43
KilosSquirm: 06:44
maiatodayhi Kilos 06:46
Squirmhello06:48
SquirmKilos: 06:49
* Squirm goes back to work then06:54
Kilosoh sorry Squirm was greeting you as an addon 06:59
Kiloshi Vince-0 07:08
Kiloshi morgs 07:08
morgsHi Kilos07:09
Kiloshi charl 07:18
Vince-0hii07:39
Symmetriagah07:50
SymmetriaI hate insurance companies07:50
SymmetriaI tried to get them to insure my camera equipment and they dont wanna do it07:50
Symmetriaapparently its way over what you can insure under portal posessions07:51
ThatGraemeGuymorning peeps07:53
ThatGraemeGuySymmetria, who do you insure with?07:56
SymmetriaThatGraemeGuy virgin07:59
Kiloshmm...08:00
ThatGraemeGuya friend of mine is a broker i'll ask her if that's standard practice or if maybe they're just full of crap08:00
Symmetriaapparently max they insure portable posessions for is R52k 08:00
Symmetriawhich is *way* under what I need 08:00
ThatGraemeGuyi assume that's under your personal cover though? if you were a pro photographer then business policies would probably happily insure for any arb value08:01
Symmetriayeah 08:01
Symmetriaheh, the problem with high end camera gear, it gets sicko expensive08:01
ThatGraemeGuyyeah08:02
ThatGraemeGuybut i cant see a reason to have a seemingly arb cap on the value08:02
ThatGraemeGuyi mean obviously your premium increases proportionately so what difference should it make08:02
ThatGraemeGuythen again, i'm no actuary :)08:02
Kiloshi psyatw 08:19
psyatwhi Kilos08:24
ThatGraemeGuySymmetria, apparently the max value is typically linked to the total amount of your contents cover08:25
ThatGraemeGuy"Your all risk may not exceed a certain percentage of your contents insurance. He can up his contents and then up his all risks. For instance if your contents is R100,000 then your all risk may not exceed say R75,000 (depending on the insurer)"08:25
Symmetriaheh ok08:26
psyatwhi ThatGraemeGuy 08:27
psyatwhi Symmetria 08:27
ThatGraemeGuy'ello08:27
magespawngood day y'all08:50
Symmetrialol my parents are so outta touch with costs and realities in the modern world08:52
Symmetriamy dad wanted a new double garage added to the house, he said he thought it would cost 50 grand08:52
Kiloshi magespawn only 46$ now08:52
SymmetriaI told him he was nuts, and went and got a quote08:52
SymmetriaI was right ;p 150 grand for a fuckin garage08:52
Kiloswow08:53
Symmetriaits crazy 08:53
Kilosthats eina08:53
Kilos%08:53
magespawnKilos: maybe it will take week anyway08:54
Kilosya magespawn but i need that pc for my mails etc08:54
Kilosgrrr08:54
magespawnbuilding is crazy at the moment08:54
Kilosmaybe with stop it and make the first part only 6g08:55
magespawnKilos:  but you have a gmail address don't you?08:55
Kilosya but i dont like going there to see stuff08:55
Kilosi use evolution08:55
Kilosin kde and unity08:56
Kilosworks kiff08:56
Kilosand better than thunderbird08:57
magespawnare you gmail with pop or imap Kilos ?09:00
Kilosyes09:01
Kilostried thunderbird with it and it works too09:02
Kilosim pop09:02
Kilosbut evolution has an inbuilt backup tool which i dont see with thunderbird09:02
Kilosalso methinks that 2 wait 2 more days for xfdisk to finish and maybe still not have fixed the drive is senseless09:08
Kilosso if i go offline im swopping pc's or something09:13
magespawnif you have set gmail to leave a copy onthe server then you can access them from multiple places09:13
Kilosoh ya ive done that09:14
Kilosgot thousands up there09:14
magespawnthen it  does not matter which drive you are on, set this one up with your mail too09:15
Kiloslol no man this is a 6g thats far from fully updated/upgraded09:15
Kilosand this pc has the odd hand it likes doing09:16
Kiloshehe09:16
Kiloshang09:16
magespawnahh so unreliable then, understood09:16
Kilosalso with the reliability of our power i cant take chances with long jobs09:17
Kilosbeen a wonder it hasnt dipped in the last 2 days09:18
magespawnthat is one of my biggest headaches09:18
magespawni'm saving up for a big ups for the shop, maybe with solar panels too09:18
Kilosthats a good idea09:19
Kilosim saving up for a fast pc first09:20
Kiloshehe09:20
Kiloscould enjoy quadcore power09:20
Kiloswith lotsa ram09:21
magespawnthere was an article i read that basically stated it was more efficient to a mid range pc, more bang for buck09:29
Kilosmy prob here is that the pc cant take more than 2g ram and runs fine with 1.5g and dont wanna spend more on ddr ram09:31
Kilosrather go ddr309:31
Kilosif you build up a pc by buying m/b cpu ram etc maybe you can build it for around 2k09:32
Kilos2g ddr costs same as 8g ddr309:33
Kilosmoving modem bbs09:34
Kilos-ah, so much faster this is09:36
Kilos-and here i can choose between maverick or 12.04 unity or kde09:37
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Kiosai!09:43
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Kilosmorning inetpro 09:44
Kiloshurry its nearly avy09:44
inetprogood morning Kilos10:17
Kiloshahaha10:17
* inetpro likes how Kilos sorts out the chatmosphere guys in double-quick time10:22
Kilospaiful peeps them, just looking for chicks10:23
Kilosgrrr10:23
Kilospainful10:23
Kiloshi sfx 10:34
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za10:34
sfxHey Kilos!10:35
KilosThis is the Ubuntu and linux help channel. can we help you?10:35
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Kiloshi Trixar_za 10:43
Trixar_zaHey Kilos10:47
ThatGraemeGuyha11:01
ThatGraemeGuydebonair's have a deal on at the moment, if you install ie10 and order pizza using ie10 you can get R100 off11:02
Kiloslol11:02
ThatGraemeGuyexcept then i'd have to use ie10 and eat debonair's pizza11:02
ThatGraemeGuyso no thanks :D11:02
Kiloswho is getting desparate debonairs or ms11:03
Kilosor both11:03
ThatGraemeGuyboth methinks11:03
Kiloshehe11:05
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Vince-0ThatGraemeGuy, you can change the user agent string in chrome and get the debonaire's special11:40
Symmetria:) yay, last of my camera lenses finally arrived11:44
Symmetriahttp://www.amazon.com/Tamron-70-200MM-Telephoto-Canon-Cameras/dp/B00A34GQEC/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1367926911&sr=1-2&keywords=Tamron+SP+70-200mm+f%2F2.8+Di+VC+USD+Lens <=== my latest toy11:44
ThatGraemeGuyVince-0, true, but i'd still need to eat debonair's pizza :P11:54
Kiloshi Balistic 11:55
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za11:55
Kiloslol @ ThatGraemeGuy 12:00
Kilosohi superfly 12:00
superflyhi Kilos12:03
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ThatGraemeGuythe android port of the original Carmageddon is coming on Friday12:56
ThatGraemeGuythere goes my weekend12:56
Kilosaw12:56
Kiloshi georgelappies 12:57
magespawnThatGraemeGuy: a paid for game or free?13:01
magespawnthat was an awesome game, very good stress therapy13:01
ThatGraemeGuyfree on release day if you sign up apparently13:02
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://www.carmageddon.com/news/droid-news-youre-looking13:02
magespawnty ThatGraemeGuy, just found that site too13:05
Kiloshmm... mxit can be dying if they are employing still14:10
Kiloscant14:18
magespawnlater all, home time14:25
Kilosk magespawn 14:25
charlgood afternoon14:32
Kiloshi charl 14:33
charlhow's it going kilos14:33
Kilosgood ty and you14:33
Kilosgetting cold here now. 4°c at night14:33
charlhere it's great weather now - high teens or early twenties14:37
charlnot looking forward to high summer but right now it's great - i love may weather14:37
charldo any of you people have experience with vmware wsx? i'm really impressed14:38
charlyou can use a virtual machine through an html5-based web interface14:38
Kilosonly sysadmin guys here now i think14:38
charlit's basically just as responsive as using it through the vmware workstation client14:38
Kilosothers on their way home14:38
Symmetriahttp://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/peacock.jpg <=== what you guys think of that pic? 14:39
Symmetriajust took that while playing with my new lens14:39
charlSymmetria: it's a pretty photo but it looks a bit dark14:39
Symmetriayeah was taken in heavy shade *hrm* mighta needed an extra bit of exposure14:41
charlyeah it looks like it, between the plants14:41
Symmetriaheh, these are my first real attempts at switching the camera to full manual mode14:44
Symmetriaso takes a bit of learning to get it right14:44
charli have now moved to evolution for my work mail, i am surprised at how well it works with microsoft exchange servers15:00
charleven the tasks and calendar works15:00
charlalso the address book15:00
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Kilosevolution is a good mail client. 15:30
Kilosand if you click on file the backup option is in that list charl15:31
Symmetriahttp://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/peacock2.jpg15:33
Symmetria:) I like that shot 15:33
Symmetriaheh, had to push the iso level to hell and gone, drop the ap to 2.8 and was still running at 1/60th of a second shutter speed to get enough light15:33
KilosSquirm, can you get hold of Trix[a]r_za 16:52
Kilossee if he sees the mail maia sent to the list16:53
Kilosinetpro, nog 13 dan kan ek aftree16:57
Kiloshmm...17:41
magespawnevening Kilos 17:41
Kiloshi magespawn 17:41
Kilosquiet here hey?17:42
magespawnyup just some mega large pics of peacocks17:42
Kilosis everyone busy or do they have other hobbies like photography17:42
Kiloshehe17:42
magespawnsaw that job posted by maia, would love to apply17:43
magespawnsleepy maybe17:43
Kilosyeah could be a good one that17:43
Kilosmxit is worldwide17:43
Kilosthey even made it for sucks pcs mxitevo17:44
magespawnclever17:45
magespawnand for droids too17:45
Kilosah17:46
Kilosand they use dedicated sorvers i think its called so no other junk interferes17:47
Kilosservers17:47
Kilosyou can install mxitevo on a pc and even if you cant browse mxit still works17:47
magespawnwonder if they use compression?17:58
magespawnbrb18:04
inetproKilos: 13?18:05
Kilosja man daar was 37 nicks hier18:05
Kilosek het jou gese as ons 50 bereik kan ek aftree18:06
magespawnKilos: only if they stay18:07
Kiloslol18:07
Kilosmagespawn, i dunno how mxit works but they are super stable18:08
Cantidei'm a huge fan of KakaoTalk..18:08
Kilosi think the pro said xmpp one time18:08
Cantideso.. no mxit for me .-.18:08
inetproKilos: wow18:09
Kiloswow what18:09
inetproKilos: 37 nicks op een gewone dag?18:09
Kilosja wonderlik18:09
inetpromooi man18:10
Kilos36 nou18:10
inetproKilos: jy sien daai voeltjie kan baie effektief werk18:10
Kilosya ek het gedink die nuwes kom van twitter18:11
Kiloshoeveel volgers nou18:11
inetproKilos: 5018:11
Kilosmooi18:12
Kilosthis has been a good 2 months data wise as well18:12
Kilosstill got 800m till the 1st18:12
inetproKilos: jy moet RT as ouens relevante goed aan jou stuur18:12
Kilosdaar kom niks daar nie18:13
Kilosvolg niemand18:13
inetproKilos: soos die ene: https://twitter.com/voyager42/status/33074786827515494418:13
Kilosjy kan die retweet doen daar18:13
Kilosai!18:14
inetproKilos: jy is mos heeltyd daar aangeteken, nie?18:14
Kilosnee inetpro net as ek iets het om te tweet18:15
inetprohmm,....18:15
Kilosdan maak ek dit in pidgin oop18:15
inetpromiskien moet ek dan maar op my foon die ding doen18:15
inetpromet tweetdeck kan ek meer as een profiel aanlyn hou18:15
Kilosgoeie plan18:16
Kiloshi jmagunduni 18:27
inetproKilos: works now, thanks18:30
Kilosgood18:31
Kilosyou gonna follow all 50 inetpro ?18:32
Kiloswhew18:32
inetproKilos: no don't follow18:32
Kilosoh18:32
inetprojust retweet when they tell you something relevant18:32
Kilosah, i didnt see any tweets ever18:33
Kilosyou guys told me follow no-one18:33
inetproyou should get something when they mention your name18:33
Kilosoh i got mails saying new follower18:34
inetprono not that18:34
Kilosno matter its in better hands now18:34
Kilosyou tweet peeps are inna different world18:35
inetprodidn't you see that message from Johan Kohler ‏@voyager42 "The randburg #ubuntu release party was... intimate. But interesting nonetheless @ubuntuza"18:35
Kilosnope only now when i went to the link you gave18:35
inetpro at 8:16 PM on 4 May 13 18:36
Kilosbut if i start sharpeys they stream in18:36
Kilosi wonder what happened to sflr18:37
inetproKilos: he ignoring you?18:37
Kiloshavent mailed for a long time but he answered the last one18:38
inetproahh18:40
Kilossuperfly, all good?18:47
superflypretty much18:48
Kilosok18:48
magespawngood night peeps19:02
Kilossleep tight magespawn 19:03
magespawnyou too Kilos 19:04
Kilosty magespawn 19:04
Kilosrofl  Ok, but no singing! 19:14
Kilosdo you croak superfly ?19:14
superflycroak?19:15
Kilosyeah whats with the no singing?19:15
Kilosnight all, sleep tight19:21
superflyanyone have any experience with NFS?19:24
TonberryI sometimes use it on my home network.19:27
Tonberrybut thats a very simplistic setup19:27
Tonberrynot very nice for mobile devices19:31
superflyno, I use it at home too, for sharing between desktops. I'm just having issues with it being extremely slow19:39
Tonberrystrange, it's usually the fastest of the network file protocols for me19:41
superflyindeed19:43
Tonberryno insane packet loss or large ping times between the computers?19:43
superflyit's just been incredibly slow of late. and I know it's not my network, or even that server. I'm running some local web sites and I can access them perfectly fine19:43
superflynope, ping times are excellent19:44
Tonberryare the hard drives ok?19:44
superflyI would presume so, I'm not hearing anything, iotop seems to be fine19:45
Tonberrywell that's all i have19:45
superflyTonberry: thanks for the effort19:46
Tonberrypleasure19:46
inetprosuperfly: not perhaps name resolution that slows it down?20:19
superflyI doubt it, but I can set IP addresses20:19
inetproworth trying, I have found name resolution even on a local network to be a significant bottleneck in some cases20:23
inetpronot sure about NFS though20:24
Tonberrymy local network is IPs all the way down20:24
inetproobviously that doesn't explain why it would suddenly change20:25
inetproso maybe there is something else20:25
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