[04:53] <Squirm> fp
[06:31] <Kilos> morning all
[06:35] <Kilos> hi ayanda009 
[06:36] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[06:37] <ayanda009> thank you kilos,how are you?
[06:37] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[06:37] <Kilos> first time here?
[06:38] <ayanda009> yeah kilo im a male by the way
[06:38] <Kilos> most here are this is the ubuntu za help channel
[06:39] <Kilos> are you using ubuntu?
[06:39] <Kilos> or another linux OS
[06:39] <Kilos> windows peeps that come here we convert
[06:40] <Kilos> hehe
[06:43] <Kilos> hmm...
[06:43] <Kilos> chicken
[06:43] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[06:44] <Kilos> Squirm: 
[06:46] <maiatoday> hi Kilos 
[06:48] <Squirm> hello
[06:49] <Squirm> Kilos: 
[06:54]  * Squirm goes back to work then
[06:59] <Kilos> oh sorry Squirm was greeting you as an addon 
[07:08] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:08] <Kilos> hi morgs 
[07:09] <morgs> Hi Kilos
[07:18] <Kilos> hi charl 
[07:39] <Vince-0> hii
[07:50] <Symmetria> gah
[07:50] <Symmetria> I hate insurance companies
[07:50] <Symmetria> I tried to get them to insure my camera equipment and they dont wanna do it
[07:51] <Symmetria> apparently its way over what you can insure under portal posessions
[07:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peeps
[07:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> Symmetria, who do you insure with?
[07:59] <Symmetria> ThatGraemeGuy virgin
[08:00] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> a friend of mine is a broker i'll ask her if that's standard practice or if maybe they're just full of crap
[08:00] <Symmetria> apparently max they insure portable posessions for is R52k 
[08:00] <Symmetria> which is *way* under what I need 
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> i assume that's under your personal cover though? if you were a pro photographer then business policies would probably happily insure for any arb value
[08:01] <Symmetria> yeah 
[08:01] <Symmetria> heh, the problem with high end camera gear, it gets sicko expensive
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> but i cant see a reason to have a seemingly arb cap on the value
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> i mean obviously your premium increases proportionately so what difference should it make
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> then again, i'm no actuary :)
[08:19] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[08:24] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> Symmetria, apparently the max value is typically linked to the total amount of your contents cover
[08:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> "Your all risk may not exceed a certain percentage of your contents insurance. He can up his contents and then up his all risks. For instance if your contents is R100,000 then your all risk may not exceed say R75,000 (depending on the insurer)"
[08:26] <Symmetria> heh ok
[08:27] <psyatw> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:27] <psyatw> hi Symmetria 
[08:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'ello
[08:50] <magespawn> good day y'all
[08:52] <Symmetria> lol my parents are so outta touch with costs and realities in the modern world
[08:52] <Symmetria> my dad wanted a new double garage added to the house, he said he thought it would cost 50 grand
[08:52] <Kilos> hi magespawn only 46$ now
[08:52] <Symmetria> I told him he was nuts, and went and got a quote
[08:52] <Symmetria> I was right ;p 150 grand for a fuckin garage
[08:53] <Kilos> wow
[08:53] <Symmetria> its crazy 
[08:53] <Kilos> thats eina
[08:53] <Kilos> %
[08:54] <magespawn> Kilos: maybe it will take week anyway
[08:54] <Kilos> ya magespawn but i need that pc for my mails etc
[08:54] <Kilos> grrr
[08:54] <magespawn> building is crazy at the moment
[08:55] <Kilos> maybe with stop it and make the first part only 6g
[08:55] <magespawn> Kilos:  but you have a gmail address don't you?
[08:55] <Kilos> ya but i dont like going there to see stuff
[08:55] <Kilos> i use evolution
[08:56] <Kilos> in kde and unity
[08:56] <Kilos> works kiff
[08:57] <Kilos> and better than thunderbird
[09:00] <magespawn> are you gmail with pop or imap Kilos ?
[09:01] <Kilos> yes
[09:02] <Kilos> tried thunderbird with it and it works too
[09:02] <Kilos> im pop
[09:02] <Kilos> but evolution has an inbuilt backup tool which i dont see with thunderbird
[09:08] <Kilos> also methinks that 2 wait 2 more days for xfdisk to finish and maybe still not have fixed the drive is senseless
[09:13] <Kilos> so if i go offline im swopping pc's or something
[09:13] <magespawn> if you have set gmail to leave a copy onthe server then you can access them from multiple places
[09:14] <Kilos> oh ya ive done that
[09:14] <Kilos> got thousands up there
[09:15] <magespawn> then it  does not matter which drive you are on, set this one up with your mail too
[09:15] <Kilos> lol no man this is a 6g thats far from fully updated/upgraded
[09:16] <Kilos> and this pc has the odd hand it likes doing
[09:16] <Kilos> hehe
[09:16] <Kilos> hang
[09:16] <magespawn> ahh so unreliable then, understood
[09:17] <Kilos> also with the reliability of our power i cant take chances with long jobs
[09:18] <Kilos> been a wonder it hasnt dipped in the last 2 days
[09:18] <magespawn> that is one of my biggest headaches
[09:18] <magespawn> i'm saving up for a big ups for the shop, maybe with solar panels too
[09:19] <Kilos> thats a good idea
[09:20] <Kilos> im saving up for a fast pc first
[09:20] <Kilos> hehe
[09:20] <Kilos> could enjoy quadcore power
[09:21] <Kilos> with lotsa ram
[09:29] <magespawn> there was an article i read that basically stated it was more efficient to a mid range pc, more bang for buck
[09:31] <Kilos> my prob here is that the pc cant take more than 2g ram and runs fine with 1.5g and dont wanna spend more on ddr ram
[09:31] <Kilos> rather go ddr3
[09:32] <Kilos> if you build up a pc by buying m/b cpu ram etc maybe you can build it for around 2k
[09:33] <Kilos> 2g ddr costs same as 8g ddr3
[09:34] <Kilos> moving modem bbs
[09:36] <Kilos-> ah, so much faster this is
[09:37] <Kilos-> and here i can choose between maverick or 12.04 unity or kde
[09:43] <Kios> ai!
[09:44] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[09:44] <Kilos> hurry its nearly avy
[10:17] <inetpro> good morning Kilos
[10:17] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:22]  * inetpro likes how Kilos sorts out the chatmosphere guys in double-quick time
[10:23] <Kilos> paiful peeps them, just looking for chicks
[10:23] <Kilos> grrr
[10:23] <Kilos> painful
[10:34] <Kilos> hi sfx 
[10:34] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[10:35] <sfx> Hey Kilos!
[10:35] <Kilos> This is the Ubuntu and linux help channel. can we help you?
[10:43] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[10:47] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[11:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> ha
[11:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> debonair's have a deal on at the moment, if you install ie10 and order pizza using ie10 you can get R100 off
[11:02] <Kilos> lol
[11:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> except then i'd have to use ie10 and eat debonair's pizza
[11:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> so no thanks :D
[11:03] <Kilos> who is getting desparate debonairs or ms
[11:03] <Kilos> or both
[11:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> both methinks
[11:05] <Kilos> hehe
[11:40] <Vince-0> ThatGraemeGuy, you can change the user agent string in chrome and get the debonaire's special
[11:44] <Symmetria> :) yay, last of my camera lenses finally arrived
[11:44] <Symmetria> http://www.amazon.com/Tamron-70-200MM-Telephoto-Canon-Cameras/dp/B00A34GQEC/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1367926911&sr=1-2&keywords=Tamron+SP+70-200mm+f%2F2.8+Di+VC+USD+Lens <[11:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> Vince-0, true, but i'd still need to eat debonair's pizza :P
[11:55] <Kilos> hi Balistic 
[11:55] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[12:00] <Kilos> lol @ ThatGraemeGuy 
[12:00] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[12:03] <superfly> hi Kilos
[12:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> the android port of the original Carmageddon is coming on Friday
[12:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> there goes my weekend
[12:56] <Kilos> aw
[12:57] <Kilos> hi georgelappies 
[13:01] <magespawn> ThatGraemeGuy: a paid for game or free?
[13:01] <magespawn> that was an awesome game, very good stress therapy
[13:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> free on release day if you sign up apparently
[13:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://www.carmageddon.com/news/droid-news-youre-looking
[13:05] <magespawn> ty ThatGraemeGuy, just found that site too
[14:10] <Kilos> hmm... mxit can be dying if they are employing still
[14:18] <Kilos> cant
[14:25] <magespawn> later all, home time
[14:25] <Kilos> k magespawn 
[14:32] <charl> good afternoon
[14:33] <Kilos> hi charl 
[14:33] <charl> how's it going kilos
[14:33] <Kilos> good ty and you
[14:33] <Kilos> getting cold here now. 4°c at night
[14:37] <charl> here it's great weather now - high teens or early twenties
[14:37] <charl> not looking forward to high summer but right now it's great - i love may weather
[14:38] <charl> do any of you people have experience with vmware wsx? i'm really impressed
[14:38] <charl> you can use a virtual machine through an html5-based web interface
[14:38] <Kilos> only sysadmin guys here now i think
[14:38] <charl> it's basically just as responsive as using it through the vmware workstation client
[14:38] <Kilos> others on their way home
[14:39] <Symmetria> http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/peacock.jpg <[14:39] <Symmetria> just took that while playing with my new lens
[14:39] <charl> Symmetria: it's a pretty photo but it looks a bit dark
[14:41] <Symmetria> yeah was taken in heavy shade *hrm* mighta needed an extra bit of exposure
[14:41] <charl> yeah it looks like it, between the plants
[14:44] <Symmetria> heh, these are my first real attempts at switching the camera to full manual mode
[14:44] <Symmetria> so takes a bit of learning to get it right
[15:00] <charl> i have now moved to evolution for my work mail, i am surprised at how well it works with microsoft exchange servers
[15:00] <charl> even the tasks and calendar works
[15:00] <charl> also the address book
[15:30] <Kilos> evolution is a good mail client. 
[15:31] <Kilos> and if you click on file the backup option is in that list charl
[15:33] <Symmetria> http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/peacock2.jpg
[15:33] <Symmetria> :) I like that shot 
[15:33] <Symmetria> heh, had to push the iso level to hell and gone, drop the ap to 2.8 and was still running at 1/60th of a second shutter speed to get enough light
[16:52] <Kilos> Squirm, can you get hold of Trix[a]r_za 
[16:53] <Kilos> see if he sees the mail maia sent to the list
[16:57] <Kilos> inetpro, nog 13 dan kan ek aftree
[17:41] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:41] <magespawn> evening Kilos 
[17:41] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:42] <Kilos> quiet here hey?
[17:42] <magespawn> yup just some mega large pics of peacocks
[17:42] <Kilos> is everyone busy or do they have other hobbies like photography
[17:42] <Kilos> hehe
[17:43] <magespawn> saw that job posted by maia, would love to apply
[17:43] <magespawn> sleepy maybe
[17:43] <Kilos> yeah could be a good one that
[17:43] <Kilos> mxit is worldwide
[17:44] <Kilos> they even made it for sucks pcs mxitevo
[17:45] <magespawn> clever
[17:45] <magespawn> and for droids too
[17:46] <Kilos> ah
[17:47] <Kilos> and they use dedicated sorvers i think its called so no other junk interferes
[17:47] <Kilos> servers
[17:47] <Kilos> you can install mxitevo on a pc and even if you cant browse mxit still works
[17:58] <magespawn> wonder if they use compression?
[18:04] <magespawn> brb
[18:05] <inetpro> Kilos: 13?
[18:05] <Kilos> ja man daar was 37 nicks hier
[18:06] <Kilos> ek het jou gese as ons 50 bereik kan ek aftree
[18:07] <magespawn> Kilos: only if they stay
[18:07] <Kilos> lol
[18:08] <Kilos> magespawn, i dunno how mxit works but they are super stable
[18:08] <Cantide> i'm a huge fan of KakaoTalk..
[18:08] <Kilos> i think the pro said xmpp one time
[18:08] <Cantide> so.. no mxit for me .-.
[18:09] <inetpro> Kilos: wow
[18:09] <Kilos> wow what
[18:09] <inetpro> Kilos: 37 nicks op een gewone dag?
[18:09] <Kilos> ja wonderlik
[18:10] <inetpro> mooi man
[18:10] <Kilos> 36 nou
[18:10] <inetpro> Kilos: jy sien daai voeltjie kan baie effektief werk
[18:11] <Kilos> ya ek het gedink die nuwes kom van twitter
[18:11] <Kilos> hoeveel volgers nou
[18:11] <inetpro> Kilos: 50
[18:12] <Kilos> mooi
[18:12] <Kilos> this has been a good 2 months data wise as well
[18:12] <Kilos> still got 800m till the 1st
[18:12] <inetpro> Kilos: jy moet RT as ouens relevante goed aan jou stuur
[18:13] <Kilos> daar kom niks daar nie
[18:13] <Kilos> volg niemand
[18:13] <inetpro> Kilos: soos die ene: https://twitter.com/voyager42/status/330747868275154944
[18:13] <Kilos> jy kan die retweet doen daar
[18:14] <Kilos> ai!
[18:14] <inetpro> Kilos: jy is mos heeltyd daar aangeteken, nie?
[18:15] <Kilos> nee inetpro net as ek iets het om te tweet
[18:15] <inetpro> hmm,....
[18:15] <Kilos> dan maak ek dit in pidgin oop
[18:15] <inetpro> miskien moet ek dan maar op my foon die ding doen
[18:15] <inetpro> met tweetdeck kan ek meer as een profiel aanlyn hou
[18:16] <Kilos> goeie plan
[18:27] <Kilos> hi jmagunduni 
[18:30] <inetpro> Kilos: works now, thanks
[18:31] <Kilos> good
[18:32] <Kilos> you gonna follow all 50 inetpro ?
[18:32] <Kilos> whew
[18:32] <inetpro> Kilos: no don't follow
[18:32] <Kilos> oh
[18:32] <inetpro> just retweet when they tell you something relevant
[18:33] <Kilos> ah, i didnt see any tweets ever
[18:33] <Kilos> you guys told me follow no-one
[18:33] <inetpro> you should get something when they mention your name
[18:34] <Kilos> oh i got mails saying new follower
[18:34] <inetpro> no not that
[18:34] <Kilos> no matter its in better hands now
[18:35] <Kilos> you tweet peeps are inna different world
[18:35] <inetpro> didn't you see that message from Johan Kohler ‏@voyager42 "The randburg #ubuntu release party was... intimate. But interesting nonetheless @ubuntuza"
[18:35] <Kilos> nope only now when i went to the link you gave
[18:36] <inetpro>  at 8:16 PM on 4 May 13 
[18:36] <Kilos> but if i start sharpeys they stream in
[18:37] <Kilos> i wonder what happened to sflr
[18:37] <inetpro> Kilos: he ignoring you?
[18:38] <Kilos> havent mailed for a long time but he answered the last one
[18:40] <inetpro> ahh
[18:47] <Kilos> superfly, all good?
[18:48] <superfly> pretty much
[18:48] <Kilos> ok
[19:02] <magespawn> good night peeps
[19:03] <Kilos> sleep tight magespawn 
[19:04] <magespawn> you too Kilos 
[19:04] <Kilos> ty magespawn 
[19:14] <Kilos> rofl  Ok, but no singing! 
[19:14] <Kilos> do you croak superfly ?
[19:15] <superfly> croak?
[19:15] <Kilos> yeah whats with the no singing?
[19:21] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[19:24] <superfly> anyone have any experience with NFS?
[19:27] <Tonberry> I sometimes use it on my home network.
[19:27] <Tonberry> but thats a very simplistic setup
[19:31] <Tonberry> not very nice for mobile devices
[19:39] <superfly> no, I use it at home too, for sharing between desktops. I'm just having issues with it being extremely slow
[19:41] <Tonberry> strange, it's usually the fastest of the network file protocols for me
[19:43] <superfly> indeed
[19:43] <Tonberry> no insane packet loss or large ping times between the computers?
[19:43] <superfly> it's just been incredibly slow of late. and I know it's not my network, or even that server. I'm running some local web sites and I can access them perfectly fine
[19:44] <superfly> nope, ping times are excellent
[19:44] <Tonberry> are the hard drives ok?
[19:45] <superfly> I would presume so, I'm not hearing anything, iotop seems to be fine
[19:45] <Tonberry> well that's all i have
[19:46] <superfly> Tonberry: thanks for the effort
[19:46] <Tonberry> pleasure
[20:19] <inetpro> superfly: not perhaps name resolution that slows it down?
[20:19] <superfly> I doubt it, but I can set IP addresses
[20:23] <inetpro> worth trying, I have found name resolution even on a local network to be a significant bottleneck in some cases
[20:24] <inetpro> not sure about NFS though
[20:24] <Tonberry> my local network is IPs all the way down
[20:25] <inetpro> obviously that doesn't explain why it would suddenly change
[20:25] <inetpro> so maybe there is something else