[00:39] When doing merges of desktop packages via UDD do you guys typically set distoseries to UNRELEASED for the MP? [00:42] mfisch: If it's intended to land as-is, I'd set distroseries to saucy. [00:42] RAOF: okay. my team uses UNRELEASED to prevent dputting from non-trunk, so I was curious. Thanks [00:46] I use UNRELEASED for everything but the final dput, but when you're proposing a merge like that my view would be that you're doing a dput-by-proxy ☺ === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [02:49] desrt, regarding your deja-dup hook script, no. [02:56] mterry: i found an awesome way to compact git repos [02:58] desrt, do tell [02:58] desrt, ah, and you want that before backup [02:58] mterry: yes. precisely. [02:59] shrank my ~6GB of ~/code/ into ~15M [02:59] oh nice [02:59] and being as ~/code/ is the largest thing i have outside of ~/.cache/ this has a rather substantial impact on running time for dejadup [02:59] desrt, you could add a wrapper deja-dup script in ~/bin or something [02:59] desrt, but no official support. There is a feature request bug I think [03:00] ya... i want something a bit nicer than that, i think [03:00] i also don't exactly just want a hook [03:01] i rather want a way to say "ya... this directory, let me give you some files to backup instead of what you find on the disk" [03:01] desrt, eh. You could point deja-dup at ~/SmallCode instead of ~/Code and use a hook to sync the two right before backup [03:01] ya. this is exactly what i was pondering [03:01] then put ~/code/ on the ignore list... [03:02] trouble is that not all stuff in ~/code/ is tuckable [03:02] (i call this new thing 'git tuck') [03:02] :) [03:03] alright, got to go to bed [03:03] ciao. [03:39] Good morning [04:08] cyphermox: regarding the precise SRU patch piloting, I believe didrocks will want to do that as we have a history of doing that and he has the test document already === broder_ is now known as broder [07:11] Morning! [07:12] Mirv: Im currently walking around the city looking for a place with free wifi [07:13] Since it seems this city doesnt like free wifi, and mc donnalds filters out everything non-http [07:13] But I see some hotspots I can try hacking into [07:13] I mean, connecting into [07:24] sil2100: :) [07:24] and morning [07:25] http should be enough for everybody (tm) [07:25] actually, using corkscrew and friends even just http + forced proxy is usually enough for everything I do [07:29] I would like to use irc normally, and while I use it locally, I would kike to have access to all the neat ports [07:31] I need a proxy, *sighs* [07:35] I need a hero? [08:07] ahoy [08:59] Already have a question to didrocks, it's harder for me without him it seems ;) [09:13] Mirv: do you know by any chance if all of our build-next projects are using autopilot 1.3 already? [09:14] Mirv: since I noticed unity from the unity stack in Head was still using autopilot 1.2 strangely, even though our PPA already offers 1.3 [09:15] (but it was fetching it from the archives instead) === VD is now known as Guest84159 [09:37] (sil2100 gone, but merges still pending) [10:07] Laney: ah, thanks for http://people.canonical.com/~laney/upower-dbus-usage [10:07] np - it's a very dumb grep ATM though [10:07] Laney: for "to build list of packages using UPower for suspend/hibernate", are you going to use a pad again? (or the same pad) [10:08] I'll spend some time triaging it soon [10:08] yeah, probably a pad to avoid BP mail spam [10:08] i. e. http://pad.ubuntu.com/saucy-logind-transition [10:08] no opinion on the URL yet :-) [10:08] whoever does the work first can choose [10:11] Laney: I'm a bit confused -- so https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/indicator-datetime/use-upower/+merge/153809 was merged on 2013-05-03 with said commit message [10:11] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+changelog has autolandings from 13.05.06 [10:11] is that subsumed under "* Stop using ConsoleKit (LP: #1156613)"? [10:11] Launchpad bug 1156613 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "Stop using ConsoleKit" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1156613 [10:11] I think that some manual mangling of the changelog happened [10:11] oh, apparently yes [10:12] the changelog is the bug title, not the merge commit message [10:12] right, those don't get used [10:12] for d/changelog anyway [10:12] apt-get source shows that this is in, so this is done [10:12] I lost track a bit about what happened to those around release time [10:12] * pitti moves [10:13] thanks [10:13] there were split raring and trunk branches which had to be merged, and blah blah [10:13] cyphermox_ sorted it out anyway [10:13] * Laney puts the Queen's speech on [10:13] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22441280 you know you want to watch too [10:27] they're red [10:36] Laney: why do I cringe every time I hear more mucking with intellectual property [10:36] because you have no faith in politicians [10:37] am I wrong? :p [10:37] dunno what these plans are [10:38] making it easier for companies to lift copyrighted 'orphan works' [10:39] the eu is doing stuff on that too [10:40] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/29/err_act_landgrab/ [10:40] yeah i wouldn't trust that site's journalism [11:48] Laney, mlankhorst: if you look at anything on thereg; look at the BOFH pages :) [11:49] heh, yeah, those are alright [11:49] they have some curious hatred of wikipedia [11:50] who maintains the unity packages in ubuntu? [11:50] Laney: http://xkcd.com/978/ [11:50] mlankhorst: various people, what do you need? [11:51] cyphermox_: well i fixed up x 1.14 now, and made a xorg-server-omap-revert package to keep the pandaboard running. some coordination for uploading the pointer barrier fixes at the same time as xserver [11:53] cyphermox_: morning! [11:54] sil2100: hey [11:55] cyphermox_: I was looking at the states of the stacks and wanted to check if autopilot 1.3 is already used for the projects, but I noticed for instance that unity from the unity stack Head still uses autopilot 1.2 even though 1.3 is in our PPA already [11:55] cyphermox_: do you know why it's still only using 1.2 from the archives and not 1.3 from our PPA? [11:56] sil2100: without checking, no [11:56] sil2100: which PPA? [11:57] Laney: indeed, that's probably the best question to figure this out [11:58] Laney: daily-build-next [11:58] link? [11:58] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build-next [11:59] sil2100: what's an example of a bad build in that PPA? === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [11:59] Laney: what do you mean by 'bad build' [11:59] one which got the wrong autopilot [12:00] Laney: it doesn't translate into a failed build [12:00] it's a failed test though [12:00] I didn't say failed [12:00] cyphermox_: hmm, not really [12:00] how can you see that it didn't do what you wanted? [12:00] cyphermox_: since the thing is: [12:00] Wait a moment guys [12:00] sil2100: http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/283/label=autopilot-nvidia/console ? [12:01] * Laney stab vpn stab [12:01] I hear you ;) [12:01] http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/283/label=autopilot-ati/consoleFull [12:01] Right [12:01] * sil2100 stabs himself [12:01] But this one for isntance was ok, all ok [12:01] And the thing is! [12:01] It's not even using unity trunk here! [12:02] It's using Unity from the raring archives :| [12:02] Why is it using unity from the archives, since it was supposed to check the latest unity from the daily-build-next PPA instead [12:02] As this is what the job is for [12:02] sil2100: check configuration, make sure the package is listed in testpackages: [12:03] Laney: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/283/ [12:03] this is the public copy of the same data ^ [12:03] cyphermox_: unity-autopilot is, and it's still installing it from raring it seems... [12:03] cyphermox_: since installed_test_packages says: [12:03] unity-autopilot is already the newest version. [12:04] Which is not true, as the PPA should have a newer version [12:05] I don't see anything about the PPA in the apt-get update output [12:05] but we've gone into jenkins which means I have no clue what's going on so /me runs away screaming [12:07] good move. [12:08] I'll look into that in more detail then, thanks guys ;) Just wanted to know if there was something obvious going on [12:08] But it seems nothing jenkins is obvious [12:11] sil2100: there's not [12:11] everything seems to me like it should have taken the new version, but it didn't [12:12] evidently something is either wrong in the configuration, or in the code for the check jobs. === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [12:19] Actually... [12:19] cyphermox_: there's no unity in the daily-build-next PPA [12:19] ?! [12:19] Ok, there is [12:19] cyphermox_: scratch that [12:19] yeah, there are two :) [12:20] one for raring and one for saucy. both build the unity-autopilot source package [12:23] And for instance now the new test infrastructure would be useful, as we could simply fetch the test snapshot and check what exactly happened on the test system [12:23] sil2100: mind if I let you hack at it for now, I'll tackle the other issues? [12:23] hahah yeah :) [12:23] cyphermox_: no problem, I'll poke you if I have some insider questions ;) [12:24] autopilot-qt had an issue, and I reran head-phone just to check if we could convince that small one to go green [12:24] sil2100: #ubuntu-unity; we can leave -desktop for the desktopy stuff. [12:25] sil2100: heh, the phone stack tests will undoubtedly fail, utah is as wedged as ever. [12:27] * sil2100 sighs === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [12:47] tkamppeter_: can you kill https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1305-convertibles-and-touch-desktop ? it's nothing more than a work item for the xorg session [12:55] mlankhorst: about unity coordination stuff; wanna ping in #ubuntu-unity? you'll run a better chance of getting the right people. [12:55] sil2100: this one is quite interesting: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/qml-friends/bootstrap-message/+merge/162971 [12:56] I'm not necessarily asking for a review from you, I think robru or ken should take a look, but I wrote the explanation for why the change is needed and there are links [12:57] cyphermox_: well there's still a blocker for now, I guess when new nvidia-tegra lands I can get serious about moving x1.14 to saucy [12:57] ok === cyphermox_ is now known as cyphermox [13:01] cyphermox: it seems a rather obvious fix, so I can review it and approve [13:01] Good catch! [13:02] you're in super-friends? [13:02] how come I'm not in the cool kids group? :'( [13:02] * cyphermox cries [13:02] It seems I am, since I can approve the merge it seems ;p But I don't know why! [13:02] Since I never ever did anything super-friend'ly [13:03] right. [13:16] sil2100, hi [13:20] attente: hello! [13:22] so i'm not really sure what else is needed to land unity-gtk-module [13:22] i merged your ap-fixes branch, thanks for that [13:23] attente: thanks for reviewing - do the tests as they look currently work OK on your system? [13:24] yes, they do [13:26] we still have a couple of gtk patches to remove it seems [13:28] attente: ok, so let me check if it all works here as well [13:29] attente: I also need to check what's the status with 13.04, but I need robru for that [13:29] attente: since I have no clue what's happening with that - once I have a clear situation here, I'll do what needs to be done to re-enable it in daily build [13:30] attente: s/13.04/autopilot 1.3 [13:30] * sil2100 needs coffee [13:31] heh, ok [13:31] thanks [13:39] mlankhorst, hi === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [13:43] mlankhorst, hi [13:43] what i said above, there is no point in an entire session for a single bug, so please take it down :) [13:44] robru: could you ping me when you're here? [13:46] mlankhorst, it is not about this single bug. The bug is one work item. Other points are implementation of touch gestures (pinch to zoom, scroll by dragging, right click (long press? Ctrl+tap? ...), script triggered by flipping the screen of a convertible, how the convertible should behave in tablet mode, ... [13:48] I honestly have no idea about that [13:49] mlankhorst, I created this session to find the right people to take care of all these parts. Perhaps also the people who worked on the Nexus 7 can help here. === achiang` is now known as achiang === m_conley` is now known as m_conley [17:02] cyphermox, sil2100 : hey, just woke up. [17:05] cyphermox, ~super-friends contains ~canonical-product-strategy, are you not in that one? [17:06] I am not [17:06] cyphermox, you should get in that one, it gives you near-godlike powers over launchpad ;-) [17:06] robru: sil2100: Mirv: figured out the issue with the API calls after all. [17:07] heh [17:12] I'm not sure I want that kind of responsibility ;) [17:12] * cyphermox -> lunch [17:41] desrt: do you know if we'll get the new gtk this cycle? Or will we stay on 3.8? [17:41] * larsu needs to update his custom menu item ipatch [17:41] i guess we'll get the new one... [17:41] no seb today? [17:41] I think it's a public holiday in France [17:41] btw: i landed the gtkmenutrackeritem patch [17:41] jasper is currently pouring over it [17:41] ah, nice! [17:42] i'd appreciate the same from you, since you will be the other consumer [17:42] let me guess, he hates the Gtk namespace? [17:42] ya.... he wants egg [17:42] we discussed it [17:42] not going to happen [17:42] ugh, that's equally stupid [17:42] have a bug #? [17:43] ya [17:44] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=699934 [17:44] Gnome bug 699934 in GtkApplication "add GtkMenuTrackerItem" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [19:05] robru: hi! [19:06] robru: so, what I wanted is - what's the state of the 1.3 autopilot transition? [19:16] robru: ping [19:17] sil2100, i just found out why we are getting so many autopilot failures [19:17] the qa guys added some debugging for us [19:18] we have autopilot-phablet in testpackages [19:18] and that isn't installable [19:18] we need autopilot-touch [19:18] kenvandine: oh [19:18] autopilot-touch? What's that? [19:18] but that also isn't going to be installable... because it depends on python-ubuntu-platform-api [19:18] the new autopilot-phablet :) [19:18] kenvandine: I thought that autopilot-phablet was the touch-based autopilot [19:18] they renamed it for 1.3 [19:18] Ah, ok, for 1.3 [19:19] fginther: ping [19:19] it's in the ppa [19:19] but... [19:19] fginther: did you quick-fix the generic jobs? [19:19] it depends on a missing package [19:19] kenvandine: that can only be used on devices? [19:19] sil2100, yes, I believe it is working now [19:19] not sure [19:20] kenvandine: I think we'll have to poke thomi about this ultimately, since my understanding was that autopilot 1.3 will be able to 'emulate' touch input even on a desktop device [19:20] fginther: excellent! Big thanks [19:20] sil2100, np [19:20] sil2100, maybe we should change it to autopilot-desktop and see if that works? [19:21] sil2100, i have a branch changing it in cups2d [19:21] if you can give me a quick approval i'll rerun a job [19:21] i can try changing it to autopilot-desktop [19:21] oh... i think we can just remove it [19:22] kenvandine: no problem, send the link ;) [19:22] kenvandine: I think indeed maybe let's try using the desktop autopilot [19:22] Maybe it would have bindings for touch for the desktop [19:23] sil2100, kenvandine, for what it's worth. autopilot-desktop is the expected package to use on a desktop install [19:25] sil2100, https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/cupstream2distro-config/autopilot-touch/+merge/163037 [19:25] fginther, sil2100: yeah, we had added autopilot-phablet to testpackages as a hack to work around it not getting installed before [19:26] we don't need it at all now, there are depends that bring in python-autopilot [19:26] which depends on autopilot-touch || autopilot-desktop [19:30] sil2100, there may be autopilot 1.3 issues related to ps-generic-autopilot. It was working with the older 1.2 version where there was no autopilot-touch || autopilot-desktop [19:34] sil2100, I did a local test, looks like it should work [19:38] \o/ [19:38] kenvandine: approved [19:40] sil2100, thanks [19:40] i'll redeploy [19:46] sil2100, sorry, was on lunch. as far as my end goes, I still haven't made any progress in getting autopilot enabled for webapps. I gotta work with vrruiz on that, it seems stale & incomplete to me [19:51] robru: hm, ok, so we still need to get that sorted out [19:55] fginther, the guy from #qa that helped debug the autopilot/utah issues pointed out a couple other things that should be fixed [19:56] are you the right person to fix the utah script? [19:56] kenvandine, yes [20:20] ok, I am going to upgrade to suacy... wish me luck! [20:47] success! [20:48] robru: boring. [20:49] if you want fun, try an f19 upgrade [20:50] haha [20:50] good for that oldschool "i need to debug my bootloader" linux feel [20:50] hey desrt, you'd probalby know this: how can I tell what app created a certain window? I have a mysterious window on my desktop and I'm not sure where it's coming from [20:51] xprop will tell you [20:51] xprop | grep PID [20:51] then click [20:52] desrt, great. so what the hell is gcr-prompter? ;-) [20:52] something about the keyring i guess [20:53] the thing that asks you "do you wnat to allow access?" maybe? [20:53] desrt, well, it's asking me for a password, but I'm not sure for what. It says "for account rbpark@gmail.com", which I assume is my google account, so I enter my google account password, but it tells me that it's incorrect. except I just logged into google 2 seconds ago, so I'm quite confident that I know what my password is. so clearly this is asking for soemthing else, and I'm not sur ewhat [20:54] so this keeps popping up randomly, and i keep cancelling out of it, and I haven't noticed any features being broken by the inability to login to this thing [20:54] maybe something to do with online accounts? [20:54] kenvandine, ^^ [20:54] ;-) [20:54] maybe use 'ps f' to find out what spawned gcr-prompter? [20:56] well, 'ps xf' you would need [20:56] there we go ;-) [20:57] any smoking gun there? [20:57] desrt, yep, 'init --user' [20:57] ;-) [20:57] that's probably not a smoking gun... [20:57] I know [20:58] was being sarcastic [20:58] i'm guessing upstart does the prctl() thing to get to be the new grandparent process for everything in the session [20:58] so everything that gets orphaned get picked up by it [20:58] desrt, i guess. still not sure what password it wants me to put in there though [20:59] or what it's even for [20:59] VIRUS [20:59] the online accounts pane in system settings doesn't report any failures [20:59] check seahorse maybe? [20:59] something obvious may turn up in there [21:01] desrt, dunno, seahorse opened fine, none of the entries there reference rbpark@gmail.com [21:01] i'd continue on the previous course of blaming ken, then :) [21:02] it looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcr/+bug/1044549 [21:02] Launchpad bug 1044549 in gcr (Ubuntu) "The "Access Prompt" randomly pop up!" [High,Triaged] [21:03] oh, workaround in comment #14 [21:03] yay [21:04] blame rishi, then :) [21:04] * desrt wonders why goa is even on ubuntu? [21:04] for the gnome remix [21:04] I guess [21:05] ah. you have it installed? [21:05] * kenvandine reads back [21:05] well, I was using Gnome-Shell through the Quantal cycle, and only switched to Unity at some point early in the raring cycle. so yeah, I had all the gnome stuff installed. [21:06] makes some sense, then [21:07] robru, oh... so you figured it out? [21:07] kenvandine, I guess so. it remains to be seen if the workaround from that bug actually fixes it or not though [21:07] i doubt that is triggered by UOA [21:08] yeah, seems a GOA thing that's attacking me from beyond the grave... [21:09] https://launchpad.net/gcr also, it seems pitti is to blame ;-) [21:15] brb, gotta run to the store === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [21:55] Yeey, Empathy is totally broken :( [21:57] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1175582 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1177833 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1176757 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1174208 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1173472 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1163961 [21:57] Launchpad bug 1175582 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy not displaying any online contacts" [Undecided,New] [21:57] Launchpad bug 1177833 in empathy (Ubuntu) "empaty does not connect to any account. and it does not show the yahoo contacts avatar." [Undecided,New] [21:57] Launchpad bug 1176757 in empathy (Ubuntu) "doesn't connecting to any account except facebook" [Undecided,New] [21:57] Launchpad bug 1174208 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy shows no contacts in Ubuntu 13.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] [21:57] Launchpad bug 1173472 in empathy (Ubuntu) "the facebook accounts in empathy shown disconnected" [Undecided,Confirmed] [21:58] seems buggy no ? :) === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF