[00:04] <hallyn_> stgraber: have you considered rewriting lxc-ps in python?  (not asking you to, just wondering)
[02:12] <Fieldy> I installed xchat which pulled in a bunch of X11 libraries and so on which I no longer need since I uninstalled xchat... how do I get all those no longer needed depdnancies cleaned up and removed?
[02:12] <qman__> apt-get autoremove
[02:13] <Fieldy> qman__: i've done that and it lists a few things, but they are the same things as before I installed xchat and removed it, do I need to run something else to update that list?
[02:13] <qman__> no
[02:13] <Fieldy> hm
[02:13] <qman__> if it's not finding any more to auto remove
[02:13] <qman__> something is left that depends on them
[02:13] <qman__> did you manually mark any additional packages as installed?
[02:14] <qman__> as in, did you apt-get install anything else?
[02:14] <Fieldy> nah. i'll figure it out tomorrow, long work day, i could have very well made a mistake... one of many many systems :) thank you though I'll try with a clear mind later
[02:14] <Fieldy> thank you
[07:49] <oDiafanos> hello :) I have ubuntu-server 12.04.1 x86 with mysql problem(refuses to start) I found that it couldn't update mysql-server-5.5 so a moved /var/lib/mysql to a new location and I purged and reinstalled mysql-server.Installed and runing correctly. How can reinsert my sites dbs in the mysql again "the right way"??
[09:08] <ppisati> dude, is there an easy way to install a swift instance? e.g. juju/charm/etcetc
[10:10] <Enich> I am having a minor melt down here..   update-rc.d freeradius enable     seems not to be working,  my radius server needs to be manually started via sudo service freeradius start  after each reboot..   google and i have been all over it, but i cant seem to find the right solution.. anyone ?
[11:06] <Enich> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freeradius/+bug/1081509 <-- it seems there is more people with the problem..  anyone got a recommendation to how i can handle this issue.  it's starting to get to me
[11:09] <Enich> i saw that it expired, but the problem still exists.  i cant fiigure out what is going on
[11:09] <Enich> it verymuch seems like freeradius is starting before mysql  and therefor fails because it cannot connect and therefore shuts down or doenst finish the startuo
[11:10] <Enich> up
[11:22] <Braden`> Hello
[11:22] <Braden`> I have Ubuntu 12.10.x, and I am trying to upgrade to 13; however, when I do:  do-release-upgrade, it tells me that there are no new releases; however, I have it set correctly ("normal") in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades.  How do I fix this?
[11:41] <RoyK> Braden`: it really should work
[11:41] <RoyK> Braden`: try apt-get update first
[11:41] <RoyK> I've tried 12.10 -> 13.04 a few times without issues
[14:21] <roy2098> Hello! Can I ask opinion here of Ubuntu-Xen-ZFS all-in-one "mega-server" (12 drive bays for 6 zfs mirrors, two  internal bays for OS mirror)
[14:25] <RoyK> roy2098: zfsonlinux or zfs-fuse?
[14:27] <roy2098> RoyK: hmmm - let me check
[14:27] <irv> i have a hyperv VM with ubuntu server in it, i want to expand the VHD and then expand the partition mounted at /
[14:27] <irv> what's the correct way to do this? i know how to make the VHD larger
[14:27] <RoyK> roy2098: if you haven't installed zfsonlinux kernel, it's fuse
[14:28] <RoyK> roy2098: and I'd recommend not using that in production - write speeds are rather on the low side
[14:28] <roy2098> RoyK: Setting up Xen and XAPI (XenAPI) on Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS
[14:28] <RoyK> no idea
[14:29] <roy2098> RoyK: write speeds low compared to what? I have VMWare hypervisor with interconnect to NAS - THAT is slow
[14:29] <RoyK> irv: google parted - then use resize2fs (given you're on extN)
[14:29] <irv> yeah i believe it's ext4
[14:29] <irv> thx
[14:29] <RoyK> roy2098: write speeds with fuse are generally rather low compared to kernel-based drivers
[14:30] <RoyK> but then - zfs is cool :)
[14:30] <RoyK> only problem with zfs is that it doesn't re-balance the pool if you add more VDEVs
[14:30] <roy2098> RoyK: i think it is kernel-based - actually i know it is as i have installed on my current Ubuntu workstation and i need to pick xen kernel in order to use it
[14:31] <roy2098> RoyK: this all in one is only combination i know of (besides open indiana, illumos, smartos) that will enable zfs under everything
[14:32] <RoyK> then it's probably zfs-fuse
[14:32] <RoyK> freebsd has native zfs
[14:32] <RoyK> linux doesn't
[14:32] <RoyK> license issue
[14:33] <roy2098> RoyK: yes i know this but xen on fbsd not yet there
[14:33] <RoyK> ok
[14:33]  * RoyK uses KVM 
[14:33] <roy2098> RoyK: kvm good stuff also i think
[14:33] <roy2098> RoyK all comes from same place
[14:33] <RoyK> I decided to run md over zfs on my home server because of MDs flexibility
[14:34] <roy2098> RoyK: not sure what md is... my whole thing is that zfs and large virtual machines are made for each other - ease of backup
[14:34] <RoyK> personally, I'd rather setup a dedicated storage box on native zfs and then use kvm/zen/vmware/something on another machine for virtualisation
[14:35] <roy2098> RoyK: well i have done just that elsewhere - nas4free as zfs storage
[14:35] <RoyK> and - don't enable dedup on zfs unless it's in a strict testing environment
[14:35] <roy2098> RoyK: dedup not enabled
[14:35] <RoyK> good
[14:36] <roy2098> RoyK: but performance of my setup not the same as if i had all vm machines on the hypervisor box itself
[14:36] <RoyK> roy2098: but really - better separate the functions - some omnios install for storage and linux for virtualization
[14:36] <RoyK> scales better
[14:36] <RoyK> multipath over separate 1Gbps links should scale well enough, we even use it for exchange
[14:36] <RoyK> over iscsi
[14:37] <bejer> Hi, anyone run into problems with apparmor, slapd and /etc/ssl/private ? - when I change the ownership of /etc/ssl/private to openldap it works correctly but when keeping it as root, slapd is not able to properly access the private key and will not start properly)
[14:37] <roy2098> RoyK: my nas4free mounts via nfs, it could also use iscsi - but consensus seems to be no perf diffs
[14:37] <RoyK> roy2098: shouldn't be much of a diff, although NFSv3 has more overhead - NFSv4 should be good
[14:38] <RoyK> local drives will always be faster, though, but the flexibility of using separate storage is the win
[14:38] <roy2098> RoyK: I just know from my initial testing that a vm right on vmware hypervisor data store very different than mounting storage
[14:38] <roy2098> RoyK: you are certainly correct
[14:38] <RoyK> roy2098: testing will probably show it's slower than local storage, but then, is it fast enough?
[14:38] <RoyK> it probably is
[14:39] <roy2098> RoyK: good enough for everyday database reads/writes, not great for large data loads though
[14:39] <RoyK> perhaps try with 10Gbps ethernet
[14:39] <roy2098> RoyK: 10G ether sure, when money's no object
[14:39] <RoyK> or aggregated 1Gbps links
[14:39] <roy2098> RoyK aggregated links may be better
[14:40] <roy2098> RoyK but here's the other thing - server will start out in basement of residence
[14:40] <roy2098> RoyK to move in 1 yr to datacenter
[14:40] <roy2098> RoyK "mega server" only 2U
[14:40] <RoyK> then the single 1Gbps link should suffice ;)
[14:40] <roy2098> RoyK = less cost in datacenter
[14:40] <Psi-Jack> How do you kill the status of an upstart job that claims to be in the state, start/killed, process 659?
[14:40] <RoyK> even if it's slightly slower than local drives for bulk transfers
[14:40] <Psi-Jack> I
[14:41] <Psi-Jack> I'm trying to write an upstart job, so I'm in the process of mangling it to work as expected, but I can't proceed since I can't get it to clear that state,.
[14:47] <roy2098> RoyK: thanks for your help
[15:00] <RoyK> roy2098: just happy to help a roy - good luck :)
[16:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> question. I have ubuntu 12.04.2 server installed, but dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-headers shows linux-headers-generic-lts-quantal
[16:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> so whats the deal with that?
[16:52] <sarnold> ntzrmtthihu777: 12.04.2 was a hardware-enablement release that included the quantal kernel, xorg, and some other pieces, to provide better hardware support
[16:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> sarnold: ah, thankya. was not really concerned, but was curious about the reasoning.
[17:26] <GrueMaster> The real critical components to an LTS release are the gcc/glibc api and the kernel stability.  By switching up to the 3.5 kernel, but having it built on the 12.04 stack, you get more platform support without sacrificing overall stability (and I see it's benefit daily here at work).
[17:27] <GrueMaster> The rest of the package updates are mainly security updates and major bug fixes (rare, but happens).
[20:59] <jonconley> If I want to save a copy of pretty much every config file on all my linux servers along with all the changes, would that be looking into something like chef/puppet with a git repository for the config storage?
[21:01] <sarnold> jonconley: chef or puppet is if you want to -manage- all those files on all your systems. as I understand them, they wouldn't help much for the ones not managed within the system
[21:01] <sarnold> jonconley: look into etckeeper, see if that may be a better fit for what you want to do
[21:02] <mariop> Hi, i have to install ubuntu server 12.04.2 on an headless machine (no monitor, no keyboard). Lets say the machine is configured to boot anything (usb, cdrom, hd), how can i do this?
[21:03] <jonconley> sarnold: Thank you. That looks perfect. I was feeling chef/puppet might be overkill, at least for now. Is RANCID still the standard for networking device configs?
[21:04] <sarnold> jonconley: no idea on rancid, never heard of it :) but that probably says more about me than about rancid..
[21:04] <jonconley> sarnold: LOL. You are fine. It is old like me.
[21:04] <sarnold> haha
[21:05] <SpamapS> jonconley: you're kind of doing it backwards. Rather than duplicating all of the weirdness on one server onto another, what you want is to define what you want with something like puppet/chef/salt and then apply it to servers.
[21:09] <jonconley> SpamapS: They seem to have a rather steep learning curve. Which I am not opposed to, but I am taking on logstash+redis+git+elasticsearch for the current project and I am sick of trying to tweak a config here or there and later not being able to revert to what was working.