[00:41] <pat> hello
[00:41] <pat> can anyone give me some guidance on installing ubuntu-touch on htc evo?
[02:39] <nickgee667> hey
[02:39] <nickgee667> i just installed ubuntu touch on my htc after planning to for a while now... one question.  i cant change the time on it?  is this because its a developer thingy?
[06:33] <Guest47769> installation using ubuntu 10.4
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> Guest47769, lucid is end of life in a day and a half.
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> the desktop
[06:40] <Guest47769> is there any chance  to install ubuntu  using lucid lynx
[06:40] <Guest47769> launchpad is not available can we download it from outside
[06:42] <Guest47769> ubuntu touch installation easy method.
[06:42] <dholbach> good morning
[06:42] <Guest47769> good morning
[06:45] <tvoss> ogra_, good morning :)
[06:48] <Guest47769> can any one say about ubuntu touch
[06:50] <Guest47769> help me to know more about ubuntu one touch installation on tablet
[06:51] <Guest47769> how to root android
[06:51] <Guest47769> pls answer
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> ##android_root
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> sorrry ##android-root
[06:53] <wilee-nilee> Heh  #android-root
[08:03] <jykae> I've been thinking to try on my SGS II but it's my main use phone, so I don't want to miss the Android OS. Has anyone here tried Ubuntu Touch on SGS II ? Does it make sense to make dualboot for SGS II ?
[08:27] <ogra_> tvoss, hey
[08:28] <tvoss> ogra_, hey there :) damn, forgot what I meant to ask you :)
[08:28] <ogra_> heh
[08:29] <tvoss> tvoss, or can I be of assistance?
[08:37] <pete-woods> QML question for anyone around: Is it possible to access the length of a QAbstractListModel / QAbstractItemModel in QML? Or do I need to add a separate Qt property to access that information?
[09:02] <tsdgeos> pete-woods: does count work?
[09:03] <pete-woods> tsdgeos: unfortunately not, that property doesn't seem to be defined for those classes
[09:03] <tsdgeos> right
[09:06] <tsdgeos> listmodel should have it tbh
[09:06] <tsdgeos> but doesn't
[09:07] <pete-woods> yeah
[09:07] <tsdgeos> pete-woods: this is not for UnityShell code, right?
[09:08] <pete-woods> tsdgeos: it is, but really I'm just doing the wiring of an API I'm making into a UI that someone else has written
[09:08] <pete-woods> tsdgeos: and so trying to make it a nice API for a QML user
[09:08] <tsdgeos> pete-woods: in the shell we have QSortFilterProxyModel that you can wrap a model with
[09:08] <tsdgeos> and has the count properyy
[09:08] <tsdgeos> but if you can provide it better i guess
[09:09] <pete-woods> ha! :)
[09:09] <tsdgeos> doesn't make much sense to wrap it in a proxymodel just to get the count property :D
[09:11] <tsdgeos> pete-woods: this should do it http://paste.kde.org/~tsdgeos/739700/
[09:11] <tsdgeos> ah
[09:11] <tsdgeos> and the signal declarion
[09:11] <tsdgeos> +t
[09:12] <pete-woods> tsdgeos: thanks! :) now submit patch to Qt please ;)
[09:19] <tsdgeos> pete-woods: yeah i guess it'd make sense for someone to do :D
[09:24] <pete-woods> tsdgeos: it also seems that the sphinx voxforge model has also been accepted into Raring, so we can use sphinx with an international acoustic model now, too :)
[09:24] <tsdgeos> nice
[09:58] <rmonge> hello
[09:59] <rmonge> can i instal ubuntu phone in htc sensation?
[11:03] <WebbyIT> Hi all! In which PPA can I found qtdeclarative5-hud1.0?
[11:03] <WebbyIT> I have ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa but there isn't!
[12:10] <WebbyIT> Hi all! In which PPA can I found qtdeclarative5-hud1.0?
[12:17] <Mirv> WebbyIT: at least in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build-next
[12:19] <esperolinuxien> hi
[12:20] <esperolinuxien> I wanted to install ubuntu on my Galaxy Tab (found this link : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/p4wifi) but the links to download are dead
[12:20] <esperolinuxien> any help ?
[12:25] <WebbyIT> thanks Mirv :)
[13:12] <popey> Apologies if people are getting lots of bug spam from me today, moving bugs around a bit and making them public..
[13:42] <dorsatum> i've just downloaded the Ubuntu SDK preview from the site using the terminal as suggested. After that i was following the Currency Converter tutorial, under which i should see an option of Ubuntu under Projects
[13:42] <dorsatum> But, that's not happening, can anyone help?
[13:44] <popey> dorsatum: in qtcreator?
[13:45] <popey> dorsatum: file -> new file or project, you should get a dialog appear, left hand side has "Ubuntu Touch" in it?
[13:46] <popey> dorsatum: http://popey.com/~alan/qtc.png <- like that
[13:46] <ogra_> popey, sync is done (just got the mail)
[13:46] <popey> ogra_: thanks!
[13:46]  * popey phablet-flashes
[13:47] <Mirv> ogra_: FYI as a closing note for today, I've now successfully gotten qt 5.0.2 working on device, so I'd appreciate a test image build using qt5-beta-proper and later on an approval that I can copy 5.0.2 to qt5-proper (not sure who should I ping)
[13:48] <Mirv> updating the sensors snapshot was needed as the last measure, not it just work by adding qt5-beta-proper, upgrade, reboot
[13:48] <ogra_> why do you need a test image build ?
[13:48] <ogra_> isnt installing 5.0.2 on an existing image enough to test ?
[13:48] <Mirv> ogra_: well I only really need someone with big enough authority button to say "yes please copy 5.0.2 to qt5-proper" :D
[13:48] <Mirv> so maybe also just someone else testing the same thing
[13:48] <dorsatum> popey: no, i'm not getting that
[13:49]  * popey points Mirv at bfiller
[13:49] <ogra_> or QA
[13:49] <popey> dorsatum: what are you getting?
[13:49] <Mirv> apt-add-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-beta-proper ; apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ; reboot -> success
[13:49] <popey> Mirv: see comment above from dorsatum... ?
[13:50] <popey> dorsatum: you using Ubuntu 13.04 or some other version?
[13:50] <dorsatum> 12.04.2
[13:50] <popey> ah
[13:50] <dorsatum> Applications, Libraries, Other Projects ....
[13:50] <Mirv> still should be there
[13:50] <dorsatum> ^^that's all i get
[13:50] <popey> must be a package missing
[13:50] <dorsatum> ok
[13:50] <Mirv> dorsatum: if you've used qt creator before, you may be hitting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator/+bug/1164504
[13:51] <Mirv> dorsatum: if you have ubuntu-sdk installed, that's all you need, and the rest should be about possible qt creator configuration problems. if you don't have any valuable qt creator configuration, you can try the rm line from the bug report
[13:51] <dorsatum> i'll try that out
[13:52] <dorsatum> i don't have anything important on it anyway
[13:52] <popey> you shouldn't get any data loss, just config I believe?
[13:52] <Mirv> that missing items sounds like ubuntu plugin not getting enabled even though it's installed, but I'm actually unaware how to enabled it via just configuration
[13:52] <Mirv> just the qt creator configuration options
[13:53] <Mirv> popey: anyway thanks, bfiller not online but 5.0.2 seems good from my perspective
[13:53] <Mirv> do we have a specific channel to reach QA folks? if I'd ask for more people to test drive qt5-beta-proper on the device
[13:53] <popey> thanks Mirv
[13:54] <popey> we have #ubuntu-qa
[13:54] <popey> actually i think they moved to -testing, so as not to stamp on Qatar loco ☻
[13:54] <dorsatum> i followed the guide given on the site  http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/#step-get-toolkit
[13:54] <dorsatum> but, if it's an issue of a package that's missing
[13:54] <dorsatum> how does one figure it out?
[13:54] <ogra_> Mirv, really, when the above works on a virgin image for you i would just go for it
[13:55] <Mirv> ogra_: ok. I hesitate a bit since public holiday tomorrow, so maybe first thing Friday morning is the better way :)
[13:56] <popey> dorsatum: there's a package which supplies the plugin. it should be pulled in by the commands on the gomobile page you followed..
[13:56] <popey> dorsatum: if it isn't then that's a bug we need to fix
[13:56] <popey> qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu is the package name
[13:56] <popey> so "dpkg -l qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu" will tell you if it's installed
[13:57] <dorsatum> on it, i'll post what i get as the output
[13:58] <dorsatum> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[13:58] <dorsatum> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[13:58] <dorsatum> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[13:58] <dorsatum> ||/ Name           Version        Description
[13:58] <dorsatum> +++-[13:58] <dorsatum> ii  qtcreator-plug 2.7.0-0ubuntu4 Ubuntu plugin for Qt Creator IDE
[13:58] <dorsatum> ^^what d'you make of it?
[13:58] <popey> installed
[13:58] <popey> "ii"
[13:58] <popey> so chances are it's the config issue Mirv mentioned
[13:58] <Mirv> dorsatum: "apt-get install ubuntu-sdk" giving no errors makes sure everything needed is instaled
[13:58] <popey> (I had that too)
[13:59] <ogra_> Mirv, well, friday means you do it before a weekend
[13:59] <ogra_> Mirv, i'd rather go with one broken day than with two
[13:59] <ogra_> in case you need to revert
[14:00] <diwic> cyphermox, mpt meeting?
[14:00] <dorsatum> Mirv: it says that ubuntu-sdk is already the newest version
[14:00] <cyphermox> diwic: yes, it's time
[14:00] <cyphermox> mpt: what method do you prefer
[14:01] <Mirv> dorsatum: ok, then see the rm command in the linked bug report
[14:01] <mpt> diwic, cyphermox, sorry, I haven't had time to finish a first draft of anything, I have nothing to show you
[14:01] <cyphermox> ok
[14:01] <diwic> ok
[14:01] <cyphermox> reschedule then?
[14:01] <dorsatum> ok
[14:01] <mpt> Could we postpone to tomorrow?
[14:01] <cyphermox> sure
[14:01] <mpt> thanks
[14:01] <ogra_> Mirv, in the distro we actually try to do such oploads on a thursday so you have the friday to sort out issues or revert stuff before the weekend ... i'd rather do the change today if i were in your situation
[14:01] <diwic> I'm on holiday tomorrow and Friday, but you can go ahead.
[14:01] <mpt> k
[14:02] <cyphermox> mpt: let's try to have something by friday though
[14:02] <cyphermox> diwic: ok
[14:02] <popey> Mirv: upload now, then run away!
[14:02] <ogra_> heh
[14:02] <dorsatum> Mirv: should i reboot after the command? because i ran it, and started qt creator again, and there is no change.
[14:06] <popey> dorsatum: you shouldn't have to, no
[14:06] <popey> dorsatum: was qtcreator closed when you did the rm's?
[14:06] <dorsatum> no, it was active
[14:07] <dorsatum> i'll try it again
[14:07] <popey> ah, should be closed
[14:08] <dorsatum> upon running the command now, i get an error
[14:08] <dorsatum> rm: cannot remove `.config/Trolltech.conf': No such file or directory
[14:08] <dorsatum> rm: cannot remove `.config/Qt*': No such file or directory
[14:08] <dorsatum> rm: cannot remove `.config/Nokia*': No such file or directory
[14:08] <dorsatum> ^^that
[14:09] <popey> ok, so they dont exist, that's fine
[14:09] <popey> now restart qtcreator
[14:10] <dorsatum> it worked!
[14:10] <dorsatum> thank you popey and Mirv!
[14:10] <popey> yay!
[14:12] <dorsatum> popey: if i get an app idea, and i've coded it, is there some place i can post it?
[14:12] <Mirv> dorsatum: np, nice to know there's still nothing that beats the configuration removal trick :)
[14:12] <dorsatum> for peer review?
[14:12] <dorsatum> :)
[14:15] <popey> dorsatum: sure, are you on Google+ ?
[14:16] <popey> we have an "App developer" community there.
[14:16] <dorsatum> yes
[14:16] <popey> let me get the link..
[14:16] <popey> https://plus.google.com/communities/111350780270925540549
[14:16] <popey> people post youtube videos and screenshot there all the time
[14:16] <dorsatum> ok, thanks :)
[14:17] <popey> np
[14:17] <popey> and we're here in this channel most of the time, so feel free to drop by to chat or get advice
[14:17] <popey> if nobody is around, feel free to drop me a mail - popey@ubuntu.com
[14:20] <popey> hmm, since I modified my udev rules as pmcgowan suggested yesterday, adb root is now failing ...
[14:20] <popey> error: insufficient permissions for device
[14:21] <popey> looks like my usb ID is different from those used in the bug report
[14:21] <popey> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 18d1:d002 Google Inc.
[14:23] <popey> \o/ fixed
[14:24] <pmcgowan> popey, did you get it?
[14:25] <pmcgowan> right need the correct ids
[14:25] <pmcgowan> popey, or I think omit the specific device id altogether to get them all
[14:34] <cfhowlett> greetings.  anyone home
[14:36] <Mirv> popey: how did you fix the insufficient permissions thing? after re-running phablet-flash (got 118, flashed 116 earlier today) I started getting that and reboot both device and host not helping
[14:38] <cfhowlett> OK then: I've got a brand spanking new Google Nexus 4 and I'm in China where * wait for it *, Skype is frowned upon.  Can anyone share the skype .apk with me?  It's available via Amazon Android Apps store which is blocked for me ...
[14:38] <Mirv> anyway, getting a bit late now, so I'll do the copy on Friday morning if everything still passes then.
[14:39] <popey> Mirv: i had to fudge with udev rules
[14:40] <ogra_> Mirv, if you think there is a risk, i really wouldnt do it on a friday, that leaves everyone broken for the whole weekend
[14:41] <popey> Mirv: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1160847/comments/7
[14:41] <Mirv> popey: that fixed it, funny that I didn't need it earlier today
[14:42] <popey> yeah, my USB ID changed
[14:42] <popey> it was definitely not 18d1:d002 yesterday
[14:42] <Mirv> ogra_: well my Friday morning is before everyone's Friday, so there's the same Friday to fix stuff regardless of today or Friday morning copy - but of course there's the delay from copy to the first iage build
[14:43] <ogra_> especially on arm
[14:44] <popey> also, phablet-network-setup is failing on #118
[14:44] <popey> hmm, probably because my laptop dropped off the wifi...
[14:45] <popey> phablet-network-setup should error rather than just saying nothing when wifi isn't available
[14:45]  * popey files a bug
[14:50] <Mirv> ogra_ / phablet: re-tested and copied! running away now as suggested :)
[14:51] <ogra_> haha
[14:51]  * ogra_ thinks that was meant to be s/phablet/popey above though :)
[14:51] <popey> hah
[14:52] <JoseeAntonioR> hello guys, is anyone around?
[14:53] <sergiusens> ogra_: turns out the fastboot udev rule is only for nexus 7, so I need to add the others in there
[14:54] <ogra_> yeah, it will end up beiong a huge rules file, pretty much like the libmtp one
[14:54] <JoseeAntonioR> just popped around to see if anyone here is interested about giving an OpenWeek session, which is on the 21-22 may, so maybe you can get some more contributors to the team
[14:54] <Mirv> popey = phablet
[14:55] <Mirv> e-mailed mailing list still to spread the word
[14:56] <JoseeAntonioR> Mirv: about openweek?
[14:57] <Mirv> JoseeAntonioR: about Qt 5.0.2 for Ubuntu 13.04
[14:57] <Mirv> to the -phone list, doesn't affect app developers much
[14:58] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, sorry then
[14:58] <ogra_> Mirv, to ubuntu-devel too ... there are the important kubuntu devs that need to know about it
[14:59] <Mirv> ogra_: I don't have rights to ubuntu-devel ML
[14:59] <ogra_> Mirv, i think cjwatson can moderate
[14:59] <ogra_> just send it and ping him
[15:00] <Mirv> ogra_: I'm not sure if a PPA happenings are that interesting to kubuntu devs though, and it seems Kubuntu people read my blog post where I mentioned 5.0.2 and syncing up with Debian
[15:00] <Mirv> (I'm on their IRC channel)
[15:01] <ogra_> Mirv, oh i understood you were pushing to saucy (as you should)
[15:02] <Mirv> ogra_: "13.04", for our image builds
[15:02] <Mirv> saucy needs more work
[15:02] <ogra_> 13.04 is dead beef
[15:02] <ogra_> with luck we'll switch completely to saucy mid next week
[15:02] <Mirv> sure it is
[15:03] <ogra_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[15:03] <Mirv> but there's always something behind the next corner, and the devs really like to have their fixes in
[15:04] <Mirv> with luck saucy will have 5.0.2 as well by that time via PPA, depending on eg. if more gcc 4.8 fun pops up
[15:06] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, ogra_ so why does the product id change with the patch to disable mtp?
[15:06] <pmcgowan> popey, when did your product id change on the 7?
[15:09] <Mirv> pmcgowan: for my 4 it apparenty changed when upgrading from today's 116 build to 118. now it's d002, I guess it was 4ee1 or 4ee2 before (as I didn't need to touch udev earlier)
[15:09] <pmcgowan> Mirv, my concern is that all the devices are now the same id
[15:12] <ogra_> pmcgowan, seems sergiusens didnt apply it yet to the images
[15:13] <pmcgowan> ogra_, something changed then
[15:13] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: yeah, changing the usb property to adb _only_ does that
[15:14] <ogra_> if they are all just adb endpoints with nothing else i dont think its so bad if they have all the same id though
[15:14] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ogra_ do I want to change the IDs to the mtp ones or add udev rules for these?
[15:14] <pmcgowan> its just0surprising to me that it works that wat
[15:14] <pmcgowan> way
[15:14] <ogra_> sergiusens, i would just keep everything on the same ID ... will make handling it on our side a lot easier
[15:15] <ogra_> unless phablet flash uses any of it indeed
[15:15] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, when mtp is re-enabled what happens, it just works?
[15:15] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: your id changes to the mtp id... let me show you
[15:16] <pmcgowan> and both adb and mtp work at the same time I assume
[15:17] <popey> pmcgowan: seemingly overnight
[15:17] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, so what did get added to the build for 118? is this change in?
[15:17] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ogra_ this is what happens when on mtp http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_manta.git;a=blob;f=init.manta.usb.rc;h=8540d9cd3306707ecbe0627fe781f1d3c7d93fd0;hb=cad622de3fcb1a917515e7f27cd2c5d58c8fe69e#l27
[15:17] <popey> i have a nexus 4 which i have not flashed to 116 yet
[15:18] <popey> sorry, my nexus 4 is 116, not 118
[15:19] <ogra_> sergiusens, so delete line 16-23 ... and drop mtp from line 24
[15:20] <sergiusens> ogra_: pmcgowan and that's plain adb http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_system_core.git;a=blob;f=rootdir/init.usb.rc;h=15467cc21c2619e3a1cf43f1653a61fd09c7cc34;hb=83cdd2a75d41acbd09dd9d9ac1d6120bdc38c8f7#l25
[15:20] <sergiusens> ogra_: nah, look at the latest plain adb paste ;-)
[15:20] <sergiusens> ogra_: and that is the master branch for manta, just wanted to show pmcgowan how it was before I removed the mtp stuff
[15:20] <ogra_> ah, k
[15:21] <sergiusens> ogra_: if I do it at the device level, I'll have to do it for all devices... the _real_ adb only id is D002 for all devices unless they overwrite it
[15:22] <ogra_> well, how do we make sure they dont ?
[15:22] <ogra_> every device has its init.usb.rc ... doesnt that always ship adb stuff ?
[15:23] <sergiusens> ogra_: I can't, but at least it seems consistent with the devices we support (in our tree)
[15:23] <ogra_> k
[15:23] <pmcgowan> it seems its not a product id at all
[15:23] <pmcgowan> I dont see any method to it either, not like a bitmap of capabilites or something
[15:23] <ogra_> well, its a gadget driver ... usually the kernel provides the ID by function for these
[15:24] <ogra_> android just hacked that up to do even more
[15:24] <ogra_> (ID by function)
[15:24] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: depending on how you configured usb to work, the id changes
[15:24] <pmcgowan> but not in any logical way unless I am missing it
[15:24] <pmcgowan> and its not a product d
[15:24] <ogra_> err s/id by function/id by subfuction/
[15:24] <pmcgowan> its a usb mode thingy
[15:25] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: yes, it's not exactly a product id
[15:25] <pmcgowan> yep
[15:25] <ogra_> yeah, gadget devices are evil that way
[15:25] <pmcgowan> makes sense now - sortof
[15:25] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, so i take it the mtp change is in 118?
[15:25] <ogra_> it breaks the standard
[15:26] <popey> pmcgowan: 18d1:4ee2 is my nexus 4 USB ID on #116. 18d1:d001 during android recovery (while it's updating), 18d1:d002 once flashed to #118..
[15:26] <popey> but yeah, many companies abuse the USB IDs
[15:26] <popey> 3G dongles especially
[15:27] <ogra_> not only companies
[15:27] <ogra_> i.e. the g_serial driver uses its own ... thats a plain kernel thing
[15:27] <sergiusens> so the question is, do we want to have _all_ configurations in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5644960/
[15:28] <sergiusens> and I'm Mirv had no issues because he fell into the MTP id ;-)
[15:28] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, I dont think you need them since they are already in the other rules
[15:28] <sergiusens> mtp with adb
[15:29] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: well, it's in the rules file I'm editing now, only that it was incorrectly named
[15:29] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, not following, which file
[15:29] <sergiusens> gatox: sino te anda... lo podemos hacer de otra forma...
[15:29] <pmcgowan> those rules are in 69-libmtp
[15:29] <sergiusens> oop
[16:07] <bfiller> sergiusens: what does it mean when I get "error: insufficient permissions for device" when trying to run adb root?
[16:07] <bfiller> sergiusens: I've rebooted the phone and still get it, even after killing adb on my desktop
[16:20] <popey> bfiller: the USB id changed with #118 due to the mtp changes
[16:21] <bfiller> popey: any workaround?
[16:21] <popey> bfiller: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1160847/comments/7 and subsequent comments
[16:21] <ogra_> bfiller, bug 1177850
[16:21] <ogra_> the fix for popeys bug above causes the bug i pasted
[16:22] <ogra_> theoretically starting adb as root should just work
[16:22] <ogra_> i.e. sudo adb ....
[16:23] <jdstrand> mardy: hi! I slightly rescoped the work in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/security-r-app-online-accounts
[16:23] <jdstrand> mardy: basically, we had the idea for a general purpose runtime contextual prompt library that online accounts could use
[16:24] <jdstrand> mardy: but I thought that was outside of your responsibilities atm, so I thought just making your change to online accounts seemed reasonable. perhaps a general purpose library makes sense if more apis need it
[16:24] <jdstrand> mardy: at which point, we can adjust online accounts to use it later
[16:25] <jdstrand> mardy: I thought that might make it slightly easier for you
[16:25] <bfiller> ogra, popey : what do I add for Galaxy Nexus? don't see that listed in the comments
[16:26] <ogra_> bfiller, sergiusens is just creating the rules file, it should be attached to the bug then
[16:26] <popey> bfiller: whatever the USB id is repored by lsusb
[16:27] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: fyi ^ (mardy's bits)
[16:28] <pmcgowan> jdstrand, ack
[16:28] <pmcgowan> bfiller, easiest workaround is run adb server as root
[16:29] <bfiller> pmcgowan: thanks
[16:31] <popey> hmm, #118 on my nexus 4 doesn't boot. i just get a google logo then a black screen
[16:31] <Guest64576> ubuntu touch installation
[16:32] <popey> hmm, might be dead battery
[16:32] <popey> hi Guest64576
[16:32] <Guest64576> hai
[16:32] <Guest64576> did you tried ubuntu touch
[16:32] <sergiusens> ogra_: I'm creating a bug to add the missing device ids for fastboot too
[16:32] <ogra_> yeah
[16:32] <popey> Guest64576: yes ☻
[16:32] <sergiusens> ogra_: at least mako, maguro/toro, grouper and manta... just missing the mako one
[16:33] <ogra_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[16:33] <ogra_> :D
[16:33] <ogra_> look, its a zip
[16:33] <popey> ogra_: you first ☻
[16:33] <sergiusens> ogra_: nice... but infinity told me didn't start with the bionic+armel xtoolchain
[16:33] <Guest64576> popey, can i install ubuntu in a tablet which is cortex A8 and 1.3 ghz processor
[16:33] <sergiusens> ogra_: did you copya round?
[16:33] <ogra_> sergiusens, well, i hacked a bit
[16:34] <ogra_> not sure i can do it like that though ....
[16:34] <popey> Guest64576: depends, we have a list of 'supported' devices and a list of community maintained ports
[16:34] <popey> which you can see from the link in the /topic of the channel
[16:35] <Guest64576> is it update.img
[16:35] <Guest64576> i cant see any link.
[16:35] <ogra_> Guest64576, read the install instructions from the channel topic
[16:35] <ogra_> /topic
[16:35] <ogra_> try that command
[16:36] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[16:36] <popey> follow the link to "devices"
[16:37] <Guest64576> then
[16:37] <Guest64576> which one i want to install
[16:38] <popey> the one that matches your tablet make/model
[16:38] <Guest64576> i can t understant
[16:39] <Guest64576> what is make\model
[16:39] <ogra_> Guest64576, where do you want to install ubuntu touch on ?
[16:39] <Guest64576> in my tablet
[16:39] <popey> Who makes the tablet?
[16:39] <ogra_> what kind of tablet is that ?
[16:39] <popey> What is the model number?
[16:39] <ogra_> who made it, how is it called
[16:39] <Guest64576> my tablet name is penta t-pad IS709C
[16:41] <ogra_> so look on the Device wikipage if there is an entry for such a tablet
[16:41] <ogra_> if there is not, there is no way to do an installation to it
[16:42] <ogra_> each tablet needs its own installation image
[16:42] <Guest64576> IT IS A LOW COST INDIA MADE TABLET WHICH HAVE A8 CORTEX PROCESSOR
[16:43] <ogra_> if nobody did build one for the penta t-pad IS709C, you will either have to do a port to it yourself or wait for someone to do it
[16:43] <Guest64576> HOW TO FIND OUT TABLETS OWN INSTALLATION IMAGE
[16:43] <ogra_> can you switch off capslock ?
[16:43] <Guest64576> ok sure
[16:44] <ogra_> !devices | Guest64576
[16:44] <Guest64576> pls answer
[16:44] <ogra_> follow the link
[16:44] <Guest64576> ok
[16:44] <ogra_> it lists all supported devices, if your tablet is not listed you can not install
[16:45] <tvoss> slangasek, ping
[16:46] <Guest64576> i can install it by manual method
[16:47] <ogra_> Guest64576, no, if there is no specific image for your tablet it can not run
[16:47] <sergiusens> ogra_: mind rebooting into fastboot with your mako and giving me the device id?
[16:48] <ogra_> sergiusens, one sec
[16:50] <ogra_> sergiusens, [206873.069749] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=18d1, idProduct=4ee0
[16:51] <sergiusens> ogra_: heh, 4ee0 is the same as manta :-P
[16:51] <ogra_> :)
[16:51] <ogra_> saves a line
[16:52] <sergiusens> ogra_: 5 chars ;-) |4ee0
[16:52]  * sergiusens needs to update to saucy to test this
[16:55] <bfiller> popey: do you recall where the media-player crash bug is you entered yesterday? didn't see it in the mediaplayer-app project..
[16:55] <popey> lemme see
[16:56] <popey> bfiller: ah yes, jhodapp|lunch suggested filing in platform-api
[16:56] <popey> bfiller: https://bugs.launchpad.net/platform-api/+bug/1175394
[16:57] <bfiller> popey: thanks, might move that. looks like it's an sdk bug on theme loading
[16:57] <popey> its not just the media player, games that have audio in (like dropping-letters) fail to start
[16:57] <popey> feel free ☻
[16:57] <bfiller> popey: interesting
[16:57] <bfiller> might be related
[16:57] <popey> we patched out the audio playback so the game works
[17:09] <slangasek> tvoss: hi
[17:41] <mhall119|away> rickspencer3: no tumbr app tjat I know of
[17:41] <rickspencer3> hi mhall119|away
[17:41] <rickspencer3> ack
[17:42] <rickspencer3> mhall119|away, there is a nice api for tumblr
[17:42] <rickspencer3> I requested an xauth certificate :)
[17:44] <mhall119|away> cool :)
[18:08] <jhodapp> popey, it'll definitely be good to get that bug fixed, thanks for filing that
[18:28] <leowt> hi there, what are the plans to move from an android chroot to a pure ubuntu system?
[18:41] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ogra_ https://i139414796.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/139414796/android-tools_4.2.2%2Bgit20130218-3ubuntu2_4.2.2%2Bgit20130218-3ubuntu3.diff.gz?token=e97a7a3546b10edfdc6cc63d0ecca54c
[18:41] <sergiusens> that's for saucy
[18:41] <brian__> Hi, How easy is it to install ubuntu on android smartphones, such as the Feiteng GT-I9300 (almost identical to Galaxy s3)? Thanks
[18:42] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ogra_ I'm waiting for the raring diff, but works fine one my machine when in fastboot, recovery and system
[18:43] <ogra_> oh, uaccess, is that new ?
[18:43] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, I can test a package if you want
[18:43] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: you are on raring, right? I backported the saucy udev rules, waiting for the package to build in the ppa
[18:43] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, yep raring
[18:43] <sergiusens> ogra_: yeah, I reverted that to get a raring package
[18:44]  * ogra_ found udev-acl more intuitive as a name
[18:44] <sonja> hi every body ...i am tryig to flash nexus 7 ...i get following error...please help......$ adb devices List of devices attached  015d3b66842ff619	device  xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ phablet-flash -b Device detected as tilapia Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[18:44] <ogra_> but well ... up to upstream i guess :)
[18:44] <sergiusens> ogra_: but left it in for saucy, that change was made on -ubuntu2
[18:44] <pmcgowan> !devices | brian__
[18:45] <sergiusens> I added comments in the udev rules so people can make clear notice of what each means too
[18:45] <ogra_> yeah
[18:45] <ogra_> well, done
[18:45] <sonja> thanks a lot ubot5
[18:45] <pmcgowan> ogra_, did we decide talapia works in addition to grouper?
[18:45] <pmcgowan> sonja, it may work but the flash tool is not allowing it
[18:46] <ogra_> pmcgowan, hmm, which one was talapia
[18:46] <pmcgowan> grouper with 3g
[18:46] <pmcgowan> if I recall correct
[18:46] <sonja> pmcgowan thanks
[18:46] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: well I would need the device IDs for it to work for fastboot
[18:47] <sergiusens> ogra_: pmcgowan also need to figure out in which location to put the combinatory of (adb,mtp,ptp,rndis)
[18:47] <ogra_> sonja, pmcgowan, yes, that will work
[18:47] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, what about all the devices on the wiki, any plan for those or just insruction for folks to add themselves
[18:47] <ogra_> pmcgowan, we will need to update the porting wikipage i guess
[18:48] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: in theory, if you use plain adb in your usb setting it would just work
[18:48] <ogra_> unless your device ships its own init.usb.rc
[18:48] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: and we just need to figure out the combinations (where to put)
[18:48] <sonja> ogra -- thanks i will try again
[18:48] <ogra_> sonja, i mean with forcing it ... it will refuse to install by default
[18:49] <sonja> ogra-- thanks
[18:49] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ogra_ most of the adb issues would change once we do the container switch
[18:49] <ogra_> yeah
[18:49] <ogra_> it will get even worse then :)
[18:49] <sergiusens> but we would still need to support the plain androids
[18:50] <sonja> good bye every body thanks for help
[18:50] <sergiusens> but again, it's function based...
[18:50] <ogra_> sonja, if you can not get it to work, use the manual install method as described on the wiki ... with the grouper images
[18:51] <sonja> ogra, thanks i will try it now
[18:51] <sergiusens> gatox: esta semana o la siguiente viene saucy y mir
[18:51] <sergiusens> oops
[18:51] <ogra_> cheers
[18:51] <ogra_> :)
[18:56] <ogra_> sergiusens, android-tools uploaded to saucy
[18:57] <ogra_> sergiusens, the raring rule should be attached on the bug, the SRUs for the other releases might take some time
[18:58] <ogra_> (so people can put it in place themselves)
[18:58] <sergiusens> ogra_: ack... but I'll also add it to our tools ppa which most people have
[18:58] <ogra_> ah, right
[19:00] <sergiusens> just building somewhere else which has higher priority
[19:03] <sergiusens> ZOLTAN!
[19:05]  * sergiusens is confusing channels a lot today :-/
[19:06] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: https://launchpad.net/~private-ps-quality-team/+archive/ppa/+build/4560805
[19:07] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: remember to test correctly, install then adb kill-server, udevadm control --reload-rules, the play with adb and fastboot
[19:07] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, ay ay
[19:07] <pmcgowan> need to flash latest
[19:08] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, did you see my menton earlier that the changelog stuff is repeating
[19:08] <pmcgowan> didnt realize rsalveti was out
[19:08] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: no I didn't but I also saw it but couldn't find didrocks
[19:08] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: it's a daily release thing with how they create those changelogs
[19:09] <pmcgowan> I see
[19:09] <sergiusens> kenvandine hey, you are here now... any idea why we get the same changelog over and over again in daily-build-next?
[19:09] <sergiusens> kenvandine: could it be that some apps are missing the bootstrap thing?
[19:09] <kenvandine> i think that is why
[19:12] <sergiusens> kenvandine: so does this need retroactive fixing or is it a new changelog entry with the bootstrap line?
[19:13] <pmcgowan> ogra_, how much total ram is available on the nexus
[19:13] <kenvandine> new changelog entry
[19:21] <ogra_> root@android:/ # free|grep Mem
[19:21] <ogra_> Mem:        710480       540932       169548            0        45260
[19:21] <ogra_> pmcgowan, ^^^
[19:21] <ogra_> 710M
[19:21] <pmcgowan> ogra_, thanks
[19:22] <a> ?
[19:28] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: did you test?
[19:29] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, sorry got distracted
[19:29] <pmcgowan> my image download taking forever
[19:30] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ack, well, as soon as you do, I'm going to copy the package to ppa:phablet-team/tools
[19:30] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, what does phablet-flash use for the download request?
[19:30] <pmcgowan> it hangs on my network a lot
[19:35] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, just remembered Im still running 32 bit
[19:48] <jaywink> hey everyone.. anyone know how often the android stuff gets updated? how often should one flash?
[19:53] <pmcgowan> jaywink, it gets updated quite often, you can check the changelog to see if its anything you need
[19:56] <jaywink> ok tnx
[20:02] <jaywink> anyone made a script to set up everything after a flash? :) like cleaning of demo stuff, setting timezone, etc
[20:06] <pmcgowan> jaywink, not really no, there is phablet-network-setup
[20:09] <jaywink> pmcgowan, ok thanks, that looks like it would fit nicely in a script, then set stuff including core apps
[20:10] <pmcgowan> indeed
[20:11] <pmcgowan> jaywink, toward the end of the month we will have it so the flash does not stomp data
[20:11] <pmcgowan> and we will take the sample stuff out soon
[20:12] <jaywink> great improvement since I last flashed some weeks ago :) speed improvement is amazing
[20:14] <pmcgowan> good to hear, what system do you have?
[20:15] <jaywink> Samsung Galaxy Nexus
[20:26] <rickspencer3> hey all, I can't get the osk to show up in my network indicator :/
[20:26] <rickspencer3> I've tried rebooting 3 times
[20:31]  * rickspencer3 updates to 118
[20:31] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, new fastboot and adb working with nexus 4
[20:39] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: ok, going to copy it into phablet tools so people can update to it
[20:39] <Dragostini> Hi there, is anyone actively around to answer a few questions?
[20:40] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, very good
[20:42] <Dragostini> Anyone? A few simple questions? >.<
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> Dragostini, If you don't ask them you wont get answers.
[20:43] <Dragostini> Fair enough.
[20:43] <Dragostini> First off, I see a lot of info on using the Ubuntu Touch Distro on Nexus phones; is it possible to run it on Galaxy s3?
[20:44] <pmcgowan> !devices | Dragostini
[20:44] <pmcgowan> I think the s3 is there
[20:45] <Dragostini> It's listed as a work in progress being done over at XDA; I'm guessing it's not a stable release yet?
[20:45] <pmcgowan> ubuntu touch is very much work in progress, not quite alpha state yet
[20:46] <pmcgowan> yeah looks like s3 support not yet baked
[20:47] <Dragostini> Ahh gotcha. That pretty much defeats my next few questions and leads to my final lol; Is there any Linux Distro's currenty stable to run on the S3 D2att In touch format, or at least not requiring docking / mouse /keyboard That anyone knows of? It's more of a curiosity than it is a longing to flash one.
[20:49] <pmcgowan> Dragostini, when that S3 port is done I would say the answer is yes
[20:49] <pmcgowan> not aware of anything else
[20:49] <Dragostini> I mean say; Gentoo or Mandriva etc
[20:50] <pmcgowan> not as far as I know
[20:50] <Dragostini> Alrighty, Thanks for the answers. Much appreciated. Take care
[20:50]  * Dragostini bows respectfully
[21:28] <popey> hmm, my nexus 4 flat out won't boot anymore
[21:28] <popey> been on charge for ~4 hours
[21:28]  * stgraber notes never to let popey anywhere near his phones
[21:29] <popey> hah
[21:29] <popey> wise
[21:29] <popey> aha, now it boots but not to the shell
[21:30]  * popey reflashes
[21:45] <RobbyF> http://itsfoss.com/samsung-u1000-ubuntu-phone-samsung/
[21:45] <RobbyF> just saw this rumour article.
[21:50] <pmcgowan> that would be nice, but he seems to be fishing
[21:51] <RobbyF> I guess there is a ubuntu tablet for pre-order too
[21:51] <RobbyF> http://itsfoss.com/first-ubuntu-tablet-available/
[21:51] <RobbyF> I've never seen this site before btw.
[21:53] <RobbyF> http://www.ubuntutablet.com.au/
[22:43] <popey> RobbyF: I wouldn't give them my credit card details ☻
[22:46] <RobbyF> likewise.