[19:21] <daguz> have I read the entire manual cover to cover? no.  Am I going to ask anyway? yes.  :)  
[19:21] <daguz> How do I start/stop a job as user "me"  without using sudo
[19:21] <daguz> in the script I have this:     exec start-stop-daemon --start -c me:me --exec  /usr/local/bin/bus-node.sh 
[19:22] <daguz> i want root or me to start/stop this job and it always be run as me.
[19:25] <stgraber> always run as me => setuid me + setgid me
[19:26] <stgraber> root or me to start/stop => I think you'll need sudo for that or possibly some clever policykit magic
[19:30] <daguz> i thought I tried it such that the sudo was called from the upstart script, such that the user could call start/stop and essentially sudo to themselves while root always has that ability...  maybe I got something else wrong..   
[20:22] <dypsilon> Hello everyone. I'have bunch of upstart scripts and a debian squeeze system with system v. Is can't fully replace system v, is it possible to install upstart alongside system v and use it just for those scripts?
[20:31] <SpamapS> dypsilon: upstart still runs sysvinit scripts
[20:31] <SpamapS> dypsilon: not sure how well it works on Debian though
[20:32] <dypsilon> SpamapS, I can't afford to migrate everything to upstart right now.
[20:33] <SpamapS> dypsilon: nobody can, or ever will :)
[20:33] <SpamapS> dypsilon: the idea is to migrate the things which hold back system boot speed or which need to be coordinated with those things.
[20:36] <dypsilon> SpamapS, I don't really care about boot speed. The perfect solution for me would be to just run upstart as a system v service and alongside system v.
[20:37] <dypsilon> Just reuse the scripts I already have. But I can understand if that's not possible.
[20:38] <SpamapS> dypsilon: why?
[20:38] <SpamapS> whats the point of upstart if it is not pid 1?
[20:39] <dypsilon> SpamapS, it's a great plattform for controlling processes, I suppose.
[20:40] <dypsilon> I have some scripts I want to reuse, also there are some very usefull scripts on the internet.
[20:41] <dypsilon> Also I will be able to ease into pid 1 upstart in the future without having to introduce something like daemontools
[20:41] <dypsilon> for the time beeing
[20:46] <SpamapS> dypsilon: ok, I'm convinced. You'll have to code that though. ;)
[20:48] <dypsilon> SpamapS, :)
[20:48] <dypsilon> SpamapS, so it's not possible right now, ... thank you