| === clay_doh is now known as claydoh | ||
| soee | good morning | 05:36 |
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| smartboyhw | kubotu: newversion calligra 2.6.90 | 07:06 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178125 | 07:06 |
| smartboyhw | Meh, is 4.10.3 done? | 07:06 |
| soee | dont think so :) | 07:09 |
| soee | yofel said yesterday he might work on it today if find time | 07:09 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw_: only if you've done it :) | 08:33 |
| === Phonon is now known as Phonon5 | ||
| Mamarok | btw, people, there apparently is a kdelibs/plasma regression in KDE 4.10.3, not something I would release as is: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319475 | 08:36 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 319475 in general "Amarok crash when closing it" [Crash,Confirmed] | 08:36 |
| soee | can't confirm - have no 4.10.3 yet :0 | 08:41 |
| soee | hope yofel find time to do packaging | 08:42 |
| soee | or in summer i try to find out how to do it and do it myself next time :) | 08:42 |
| yofel | good morning | 09:32 |
| shadeslayer | morning :) | 09:33 |
| afiestas_ | ScottK: thanks | 09:54 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: ping | 10:38 |
| yofel | do I need some special setup for bug 1177333? | 10:38 |
| ubottu | bug 1177333 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Raring) "[SRU] kscreen 0.0.92" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1177333 | 10:38 |
| yofel | because "just" nvidia + kscreen doesn't crash for me | 10:38 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1177823] qdbus needs dependency ubuntu-sdk to work @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1177823 (by Patola) | 10:42 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1178192] My laptop occasionally doesn't shutdown @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178192 (by Tomas Brandysky) | 10:44 |
| shadeslayer | uhh no | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | just nvidia drivers | 10:48 |
| yofel | it only happens when you don't use nouveau on first login maybe? | 10:49 |
| * yofel tries that | 10:49 | |
| Riddell | you need a second screen | 10:49 |
| Riddell | you do anything in kscreen | 10:49 |
| yofel | I have that | 10:49 |
| Riddell | then next login it crashes | 10:49 |
| yofel | ah, ok | 10:49 |
| yofel | err... nope | 10:54 |
| yofel | maybe that only happens when you have 2GPU's ? | 10:55 |
| afiestas_ | yofel: kscreen-console output | 10:58 |
| yofel | afiestas_: is that supposed to finish or should I CTRL-C it at the end? | 10:59 |
| afiestas_ | yofel: ctrl+c should be ok | 11:00 |
| yofel | afiestas_: http://paste.kde.org/740534/ | 11:01 |
| afiestas_ | yofel: are you using nvidia blob? | 11:02 |
| yofel | that's using nvidia-313-updates (313.30), Xorg.log if you need the details: http://paste.kde.org/740540/ | 11:04 |
| yofel | that's pretty much a fresh install, so maybe I'm missing something... but I don't see what | 11:04 |
| afiestas_ | yofel: nope, your ystem has a LVDS,it crashes with other kind of displays | 11:08 |
| yofel | ah, so you would need a desktop with 2 monitors... | 11:08 |
| yofel | afiestas_: 2 identical displays or would a DVI/VGA mix do? | 11:12 |
| afiestas_ | yofel: you need an embedded display called DP | 11:12 |
| yofel | er, that's nvidia's naming for DisplayPort, that's not embedded | 11:13 |
| yofel | but let me try that actually | 11:13 |
| * yofel goes digging around for his DP-HDMI adapter | 11:13 | |
| yofel | :/ | 11:16 |
| yofel | first I pull my VGA cable out of the notebook and nothing changes until I run 'xrandr' in konsole... and now I plug my DP cable in, screen is configured right but now plasma is frozen solid -.- | 11:17 |
| yofel | well, didn't crash either, so it probably needs to be embedded after all | 11:21 |
| * yofel gives up | 11:21 | |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:29 |
| Quintasan | hello | 11:53 |
| Quintasan | yofel: I can't reproduce it on my desktop, two DVI ports and nothing happens | 11:54 |
| Quintasan | I'll try it on my laptop later when I get the dvi connector | 11:54 |
| BluesKaj | hey , getting this error and I think I know what the offending app/patch is , " | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | Error! The dkms.conf for this module includes a BUILD_EXCLUSIVE directive which | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | does not match this kernel/arch. This indicates that it should not be built. | 11:57 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: can you pastebin the surrounding parts please? | 11:58 |
| BluesKaj | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily | 11:59 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, here's the paste, http://pastebin.com/ZfbpMidR | 12:02 |
| BluesKaj | yofe I'm thinking that hdmi patch is seen as the problem since it's 32 bit | 12:04 |
| BluesKaj | bbiab | 12:10 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: sounds like it... what does 'dkms status' say? | 12:21 |
| BluesKaj | oddly the kernel seemed to build ok , dkms status : http://pastebin.com/EE8nbUhE | 12:25 |
| BluesKaj | yofel,^ | 12:25 |
| BluesKaj | and uname -a shows : 3.9.0-1-generic x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 | 12:27 |
| BluesKaj | yofel , doesn't seem to be an issue , all seems fine , think I was concerened for no reason | 12:30 |
| yofel | hm, reading the dkms logs would probably tell more, but I forgot where those were... either somwhere under /var/log or /lib/modules/ iirc... | 12:31 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, turns out the suspect patch is 64 bit after all , so it's something else ..I did install lsb-core and ia32-libs for google-earth previous to new kernel buld | 12:41 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: found the log location: /var/lib/dkms/<module>/<version>/<kernel>/<arch>/log | 12:57 |
| yofel | maybe that can tell you more | 12:57 |
| yofel | Can someone please try to explain to me how this can happen? http://paste.kde.org/740570 | 12:58 |
| yofel | that code hasn't changed since 2009... | 12:58 |
| yofel | raring didn't suddenly switch compilers either | 12:58 |
| smartboyhw | Dunno… | 12:58 |
| yofel | the method is | 12:59 |
| yofel | bool init(const QString &configfile); | 12:59 |
| yofel | so the symbol is correct | 12:59 |
| yofel | I just don't get why it would change NOW | 12:59 |
| yofel | that's private so not much of an issue... I just don't get it | 12:59 |
| yofel | saucy debhelper is fun | 13:03 |
| yofel | lintian I mean | 13:03 |
| smartboyhw | yofel: How fun? | 13:03 |
| yofel | E: kde4libs source: license-problem-gfdl-invariants kdoctools/customization/el/entities/gpl-notice.docbook | 13:03 |
| yofel | like... 50 times | 13:03 |
| smartboyhw | What the hell?:P | 13:04 |
| yofel | correction: 113 times | 13:04 |
| smartboyhw | yofel: :O | 13:04 |
| Riddell | one for each language | 13:05 |
| Riddell | dudes: mgraesslin says there's abug in plasma in 4.10.3 and we probablydon't wantto release it until that's fixed | 13:05 |
| yofel | the one Mamarok pointed to? | 13:05 |
| yofel | kde 319475 | 13:06 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 319475 in general "Plasma crashes when closing apps" [Crash,Resolved: duplicate] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319475 | 13:06 |
| Riddell | quite possibly | 13:06 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: Good, we haven't done anything on 4.10.3:P | 13:06 |
| yofel | well, I'm not done with it anyway. Will try to get it in a usable state so we can try it | 13:06 |
| yofel | ... | 13:11 |
| smartboyhw | yofel: … :P | 13:12 |
| yofel | Phonon5: kde-workspace-4.10.2/debian/libkwinglutils1abi1.symbols of your kde-workspace SRU in raring-proposed looks rather odd | 13:13 |
| yofel | libkwinglutils.so.1abi2 libkwinglutils1abi1 #MINVER# | 13:13 |
| yofel | is that 1abi1 or 1abi2 now...? | 13:13 |
| yofel | it won't matter for .3 as the patch is dropped again, but... | 13:15 |
| smartboyhw | kde 319428 | 13:17 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 319428 in http "noticifations about errors contain password" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319428 | 13:17 |
| yofel | @_@ | 13:17 |
| smartboyhw | We need to SRU every kdepim 4.x with this, as in the mailing lists… | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | I was just looking at that | 13:18 |
| yofel | ah good | 13:18 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer: \o/ | 13:18 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: lucky you that 2 releases just went EOL :P | 13:19 |
| shadeslayer | hurray :P | 13:19 |
| smartboyhw | yofel: shadeslayer: :P | 13:19 |
| yofel | libnepomukextractor.so | 13:29 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: that had no headers, right? | 13:31 |
| yofel | brrrrr | 13:32 |
| yofel | + class NEPOMUK_EXTRACTOR_EXPORT ExtractorPlugin : public QObject | 13:32 |
| yofel | - class NEPOMUK_EXPORT ExtractorPlugin : public QObject | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer | nope, vHanda says it's a private header | 13:36 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: why? | 13:37 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: nah, should work, it just seemed fishy from the kdeadmin and kdepim build logs, but I guess those were old | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | vHanda also mentioned something about that :P | 13:38 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: are you sure that file should be in nepomuk-core-dev though? | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: nope, it should be in the standard normal package | 13:39 |
| * vHanda waves | 13:39 | |
| shadeslayer | so I made a mistake if it's not there | 13:39 |
| yofel | yeah, that's what I was wondering about and went looking if something of it is public | 13:39 |
| yofel | I'll move it | 13:39 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, thanks :) | 13:40 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 13:53 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: did you apply https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdelibs/repository/revisions/65d736dab592bced4410ccfa4699de89f78c96ca to the 4.10.3 packages?? | 13:53 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: not yet, needs to be done | 13:54 |
| yofel | er wait | 13:54 |
| yofel | that bug is marked at "Fixed-in: 4.10.3", no? | 13:54 |
| yofel | *as | 13:54 |
| shadeslayer | mmm commit message doesn't say | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | no "Version fixed in" | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | plus it was commited 17 hours ago | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | Added by Grégory Oestreicher about 17 hours ago | 13:55 |
| yofel | ok | 13:55 |
| yofel | checked git, it's not part of v4.10.3 | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | okay, I'll leave the 4.10.3 patching to you, and I'll upload to saucy first | 13:56 |
| yofel | good | 13:56 |
| Riddell | kde is not alone in its dislike of the SRU system http://paste.kde.org/740594/ | 14:09 |
| smartboyhw_ | Riddell: heh. Ubuntu should really reform it's SRU system. | 14:11 |
| smartboyhw_ | Propose it to the TB | 14:11 |
| yofel | well, we already have several bugfix updates only in the PPAs because SRU-ing point releases is too much work | 14:13 |
| yofel | e.g. calligra or networkmangement | 14:13 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw_: I did | 14:14 |
| Riddell | there's not much that can be reformed without making it unsafe | 14:14 |
| smartboyhw_ | Riddell: Meh | 14:15 |
| yofel | the procedure isn't bad, really. It just requires a large amount of manpower with the current design | 14:16 |
| smartboyhw_ | yofel, Riddell: If they can reduce needed manpower for application uploads, they can reduce needed manpower in SRUs too. | 14:17 |
| Riddell | aparently suse don't do updates at all, atleast so someone said in our discussion, I'm not convinced this is true | 14:17 |
| smartboyhw_ | Riddell: How can a distribution work properly without updates? | 14:17 |
| smartboyhw_ | SRUs… | 14:17 |
| Riddell | that's why I'm not convinced it's true | 14:19 |
| yofel | Phonon5: is there something in kubuntu-settings that you don't want to have uploaded to saucy right now? | 14:19 |
| yofel | I would like to get bug 1174689 fixed | 14:20 |
| ubottu | bug 1174689 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Raring) "Nvidia/Dual screen - No Taskbar/Kdemenu on default install Kubuntu 13.04" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1174689 | 14:20 |
| yofel | though the changes I see in the changelog look sane to upload | 14:20 |
| smartboyhw_ | Meh, I just realized Phonon5 is apachelogger… | 14:22 |
| yofel | he likes to confuse people :P | 14:22 |
| smartboyhw_ | yofel: ;P | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/1178286 | 14:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1178286 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "Security advisory from KDE upstream" [Undecided,New] | 14:34 |
| smartboyhw_ | shadeslayer: Awesome, but aren't Lucid (desktop) supposed to EOL? | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw_: yeah, but Lucid isn't approved | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | so doesn't matter | 14:38 |
| smartboyhw_ | shadeslayer: Good Riddell denied it:) | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 14:38 |
| * yofel usually approves and deletes the task after that | 14:40 | |
| yofel | I hate how launchpad does release nominations | 14:40 |
| smartboyhw_ | yofel: Oh | 14:40 |
| yofel | I mean there's not even a purpose for a declined nomination, setting the release status to Won't Fix gives the same message and is more flexible | 14:41 |
| smartboyhw_ | Riddell: Nice blog post. | 15:32 |
| Phonon5 | yofel: can all go up | 15:41 |
| yofel | perfect | 15:42 |
| Peace-- | Riddell: | 17:14 |
| Riddell | hi Peace-- | 17:15 |
| yofel | hm... | 17:15 |
| yofel | ~karma Peace | 17:15 |
| kubotu | Peace has neutral karma | 17:15 |
| Peace-- | Riddell: mmm maybe you can give me some advice about a voip software | 17:15 |
| yofel | ah, he turned that off, right | 17:16 |
| yofel | laggy... | 17:16 |
| Peace-- | Riddell: we did a shell program to create audio conference | 17:16 |
| Peace-- | Riddell: but now we would like create a gui | 17:17 |
| Peace-- | Riddell: qml is good for that ? | 17:17 |
| Peace-- | Riddell: btw it is written in c ... | 17:17 |
| Peace-- | Riddell: btw it's here http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/kubuntu-kde-voip-opensource-free-for-all-done/ | 17:17 |
| Riddell | golly | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | flipping patches | 17:21 |
| Riddell | well aye you can use QML,but QML needs you to pick a widget toolkit and even then bits can be missing | 17:21 |
| Riddell | it's great if you want swipey swooshy UIs | 17:21 |
| Riddell | but it might be easier to use just Qt in c++ or PyQt | 17:21 |
| Riddell | with QWidgets | 17:21 |
| Peace-- | ok | 17:23 |
| Peace-- | Riddell: tx | 17:23 |
| Peace-- | Riddell: btw if you want test this software it will be great | 17:23 |
| Riddell | can do but not todya I'm afraid | 17:26 |
| Riddell | alreayd got a million things on my task list | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | alright, bug 1178286 has everything now | 17:35 |
| ubottu | bug 1178286 in kde4libs (Ubuntu Raring) "Security advisory from KDE upstream" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1178286 | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | do I just upload stuff now? | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ^ | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | or if anyone wants to review it | 17:36 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: looks good, upload and subscribe ubuntu-security I'd say | 17:40 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: only the security team can do security uploads so all you have to do is subscribe them to the bug | 17:50 |
| Riddell | ah, shows how long it's been since kde had a security issue | 17:51 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: a description of the vulnerability would be nice in the changelog | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: uhhh ... I get to upload everything again ? :S | 18:25 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: hey | 19:10 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: maybe just add another comment suggesting a new changelog | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | ack | 19:13 |
| jussi01 | hrm, do we still have anything like netbook edition? Ive an atom based machine I need to get something installed on... | 19:17 |
| jussi01 | mind, it also has a touch screen, so Im hoping that also works... | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | jussi01: plasma-netbook | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer | oh and if you boot the ISO, and the screen is small, it'll start plasma-netbook | 19:21 |
| jussi01 | shadeslayer: the tech preview of active.... is it een worth considering for something that is actually usuable? or is it really just that, a tech preview? | 19:22 |
| shadeslayer | I wouldn't recommend it really | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | just install kubuntu normally and then install active | 19:23 |
| ahoneybun | hey shadeslayer | 20:07 |
| soee | hey guys so are you leaving for now 4.10.3 because of some bug ? | 20:12 |
| === jono is now known as Guest61463 | ||
| ahoneybun | I think it is just taking time for it to compile | 20:22 |
| ahoneybun | but I'm not sure, I'll just let the Package Team take their time :) | 20:22 |
| yofel | well, soee's point is partly true | 20:35 |
| yofel | other than that people are busy with other things | 20:35 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: I would think so with the just released 13.04 and work for 13.10 | 20:44 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: | 21:01 |
| === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine | ||
| ahoneybun | should I keep a list of things left to do for the wiki? | 23:27 |
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