| thor1 | Guys are you going after mir for Qlubuntu ? | 07:22 |
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| Unit193 | That's a bit far down the road, 14.04 at the earliest. | 07:25 |
| thor1 | Unit193 ok just curious:) | 07:26 |
| Anonymer89 | hallo | 11:43 |
| Anonymer89 | hello | 11:43 |
| Anonymer89 | ich habe ein problem mit mein lubuntu 13.04 | 11:44 |
| Anonymer89 | beim start wird nicht der CPUS gestartet | 11:45 |
| Anonymer89 | I have a problem with my lubuntu 13.04 | 11:47 |
| Anonymer89 | will not start when the service is started CPUS | 11:48 |
| cefency | when I install libX11 using source installation, I am getted these informatin: | 13:40 |
| cefency | ./autogen.sh | 13:41 |
| cefency | autoreconf: Entering directory `.' | 13:41 |
| cefency | autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext | 13:41 |
| cefency | autoreconf: running: aclocal -I m4 | 13:41 |
| cefency | autoreconf: configure.ac: tracing | 13:41 |
| cefency | autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Libtool | 13:41 |
| cefency | but I don't understand | 13:42 |
| === SonikkuAmerica_ is now known as SonikkuAmerica | ||
| GelH | > | 17:38 |
| GelH | I have a problem since 13.04, the nvidia card freezes the system on launching seamonkey (also sometimes FF & Tbird) | 17:40 |
| GelH | ping | 17:48 |
| mikeconcepts | If anyone here has anything to do with the Pentium M survey, please count me as voting yes, the survey closed already. | 19:20 |
| phillw | mikeconcepts: thanks for taking the interest, we are still discussing how best to assist people with Pentium M's. | 19:27 |
| mikeconcepts | phillw, thanks, means something to me | 19:28 |
| phillw | mikeconcepts: just so as you know you are not ignored, we have a draft for lubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE which feeds into https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE as always with lubuntu, we fight like siblings. | 19:31 |
| phillw | We will have a resolution worked out. Which will be the offer of all the ways to sort the issue out. | 19:32 |
| mikeconcepts | phillw, awesome, thanks again | 19:32 |
| balloon1 | how do i make a lubuntu bootstick | 19:59 |
| holstein | balloon1: i use a lubuntu iso and unetbootin | 20:00 |
| balloon1 | awsum :> | 20:00 |
| Slit | Hi! What would happened if I uninstall PCmanFM? I would like to use instead xfm. If I do that, how would I start xfm | 20:01 |
| holstein | Slit: i would just use xfm. no need to remove anything in order to do that | 20:01 |
| Slit | @holstein. I would like for my lubuntu to be even lighter | 20:02 |
| holstein | Slit: lighter? or take up less hard drive space? | 20:02 |
| holstein | Slit: the "lightness" will not be affected by removing pcmanfm.. and its *quite* small | 20:02 |
| Slit | less hard and less cpu and ram... | 20:03 |
| holstein | Slit: then, you can leave it in place | 20:03 |
| Slit | how much hard pcman use | 20:04 |
| holstein | otherwise, you can remove it just as you would remove anything else.. though, i would be cautious of dependencies and what else is "expecting" pcmanfm | 20:04 |
| holstein | Slit: i would just open a package manager and check.. it will be *quite* small | 20:04 |
| Slit | yes that was my question, maybe to much dependencies, meaning, no abiword ... | 20:05 |
| holstein | Slit: i would just set it up to be removed, and read about what all is being removed with it... if that looks like its unacceptable, i would leave it in place, since the hard drive space its taking up is, as i said, quite small, and resources when its not in use are irrelevant | 20:06 |
| Slit | maybe to risky, better to try in virtual machine | 20:07 |
| holstein | balloon1: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows here is a guide for doing it from windows | 20:08 |
| holstein | Slit: risky? its just a file manager.. just have good backups (as you should regardless, since whatever hardware you are using *will* fail) and no how to revert.. how to reinstall the filemanger and set the default filemanager | 20:08 |
| holstein | if you are asking me "how would you use another filemanger?"... i would just use it, and not bother with removing anything.. its likely quite small the space you would reclain | 20:09 |
| holstein | reclaim* | 20:09 |
| Slit | @holstein: I am new to linux, so wouldn't be cool to see my self in command line mode :-) | 20:11 |
| holstein | Slit: in synaptic, when i search "pcmanfm" the size is 1378 kB | 20:11 |
| holstein | Slit: removing pcmanfm to "save space" on the hard drive is not constructive | 20:11 |
| Slit | yes 1378 kb, but with dependencies? | 20:12 |
| holstein | Slit: if you are new to linux, then just use the version of linux you have "as-is" for a while.. get used to the defaults | 20:12 |
| holstein | Slit: lubuntu is one of the lighter distros, and switching from pcmanfm will *not* reclaim much for you | 20:12 |
| holstein | Slit: lets say it gets you 20mb of hard drive space? | 20:12 |
| holstein | Slit: whats that matter? | 20:12 |
| holstein | thats nothing... | 20:13 |
| Slit | true :-) better to lear a bit, but I will try in vm | 20:13 |
| Slit | :-) | 20:13 |
| holstein | Slit: i see "After this operation, 6,789 kB disk space will be freed." when i run "sudo apt-get autoremove pcmanfm" | 20:14 |
| holstein | Slit: run it where you like.. but its *not* going to be a contructive way of re-distributing resources | 20:14 |
| holstein | you will free up about 8mb of hard drive space... best case.. assuming you dont "break" anything in the process | 20:14 |
| holstein | or, you can just install the other filemanger and use it, and you please | 20:15 |
| Slit | :-) It's nothing :-) but whay is lubunut a bit big 500 MB, or so | 20:15 |
| holstein | Slit: "big" is a matter of opinion | 20:15 |
| holstein | !minimal | 20:15 |
| ubottu | The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 20:15 |
| holstein | Slit: i suggest installing from that ^^ which is around 30mb.. then, you can add just what you want and build your own ubuntu based install from scratch | 20:16 |
| Slit | look at slitaz, very small and very fast, the fastes for me... Don't like this upgrade from internet... slow network for me | 20:16 |
| holstein | Slit: at the end of doing these for myself, i usually find that i end up with something resembling lubuntu in size | 20:16 |
| Slit | http://www.slitaz.org/en/ | 20:17 |
| holstein | Slit: i have used slitaz.. if i want slitaz, i use slitaz | 20:17 |
| Slit | I would use Slitaz, but no drivers for my 3g modem and no support for my letters čć | 20:17 |
| holstein | Slit: those drivers take up space.. *everything* is a compromise | 20:18 |
| Slit | and it is not ubuntu based | 20:18 |
| Slit | I don't like compromise :-) | 20:18 |
| holstein | Slit: that support takes up space | 20:18 |
| Slit | that's not good... | 20:18 |
| holstein | Slit: all of this code is open.. you are free to build your own | 20:19 |
| holstein | Slit: its actually quite good.. there are differnt things for different default purposes | 20:19 |
| holstein | if you want to "hack" at slitaz, and add the things that are missing for you, im sure you can | 20:19 |
| Slit | what you mena build for your own, I am no good in programming | 20:19 |
| holstein | if you want to remove some things from lubuntu, you can, and are welcome to do so.. or make your own from minimal | 20:20 |
| holstein | Slit: then, if you are "no good in programming"... you'll need to go with something set up for you.. if lubuntu is a good fit, try it out | 20:20 |
| Slit | It is funny, I would like UI of lubuntu but speed of Slitaz or Bodhi linux | 20:21 |
| holstein | Slit: you can run LXDE in bodhi or slitaz | 20:21 |
| holstein | Slit: i would /join an appropriate slitaz of bodhi support avenue and ask about installing lxde | 20:21 |
| Slit | In bodhi? | 20:22 |
| holstein | in bodhi is should be "sudo apt-get install lxde" | 20:22 |
| holstein | Slit: correct.. in bodhi linux, where you can install lxde, the ui from lubuntu | 20:22 |
| Slit | I once instale lxde on ubuntu, but look is different in lubuntu, why. what I am missing | 20:22 |
| holstein | Slit: you can configure lxde (or anything) as you want.. lubuntu has customized lxde for the distro... what are you missing? you are running ubuntu with lxde.. not lubuntu | 20:23 |
| Slit | it is, your right for bodhi | 20:23 |
| Slit | no, lubunut... i once instaled on ubuntu | 20:24 |
| holstein | Slit: correct | 20:24 |
| holstein | Slit: you installed ubuntu, and added lxde.. and it "looked different".. and that is why.. that ubuntu with lxde added.. not lubuntu.. lubuntu has a customized lxde setup | 20:24 |
| Slit | I will try bodhi in lxde | 20:24 |
| holstein | you can mimic (or straight up steal) the config from lubuntu if you like | 20:24 |
| holstein | Slit: you will try lxde in bodhi | 20:25 |
| Slit | yes, lubuntu is "nicer" | 20:25 |
| balloon1 | awsum++ | 20:25 |
| holstein | Slit: "nicer" is a matter of opinion | 20:25 |
| Slit | that is why I ad " " | 20:25 |
| holstein | Slit: its *all* open, and you are able to, and encouraged to grab what you like | 20:25 |
| Slit | would do. Is it true that E17 is faster then lxde? | 20:26 |
| holstein | Slit: no desktop environment is really "faster".. the hardware is what it is.. and cannont be made faster by a desktop environment.. but, some can be less resource intensive, and "seem" faster, or be more responsive | 20:26 |
| holstein | Slit: lxde is, from what i find, better supported.. and i prefer it to E17... is E17 faster? seemed similar to LXDE to me | 20:27 |
| Slit | for me e17 is responsive | 20:28 |
| Unit193 | Fluxbox. :D | 20:28 |
| holstein | the speed is not why i would run LXDE vs E17... for me, its because i finde LXDE easier to deal with, and configure | 20:28 |
| holstein | Slit: you can install E17 in ubuntu if you like | 20:28 |
| Slit | i have old computer, celleron cpu, and you can tell a difference... yes obviously you can install it... | 20:29 |
| holstein | Slit: i see not much difference in responsiveness on any of my hardware.. celerons and others.. but you can run what you like | 20:30 |
| Slit | i realy see, maybe it is sometnihg different. Don' t know wha it is. Ubuntu is heavy comparing with xp | 20:31 |
| Slit | on my comp | 20:31 |
| holstein | Slit: try not comparing them | 20:31 |
| Slit | why? | 20:31 |
| holstein | Slit: its not the goal of ubuntu to be "lighter" on your hardware than xp | 20:31 |
| holstein | it is what it is.. and the issue, assuming there is an issue, could be to do with hardware driver support | 20:32 |
| Slit | I know it isn't | 20:32 |
| holstein | plus, xp is quite old, and arguably more appropriate for older hardware than software created a few months ago | 20:32 |
| holstein | can you find a linux distro to run comfortably on your hardware? likely.. can that be lubuntu? very likely | 20:33 |
| Slit | yes it is old xp, but ubuntu has a "voice" of being good for old computers | 20:33 |
| holstein | Slit: lubuntu does.. ubuntu makes no such claims.. also, lubuntu is dealing with the kernel, and other main ubuntu packages as they are | 20:34 |
| Slit | I meant lubuntu | 20:34 |
| holstein | i usually start with the graphics driver support. i usually just try live CD's til i find something that generally supports my hardware | 20:36 |
| holstein | these days, hardware is so resonably priced, i dont waste too much time on p3's and celerons.. but, when i did, puppy linux was a go-to for testing as well as lubuntu... and other diagnostic live CD's | 20:37 |
| Slit | Your right holstein.... I have to say good by for know, my family meber needs computer for half an houer.... I will come back on Bodhi... s | 20:37 |
| Slit | :-) | 20:37 |
| holstein | Slit: enjoy | 20:38 |
| Slit | See you maybe in 30 min... | 20:38 |
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