[06:29] <azend> BobJonkman1: thanks for the email
[06:29] <BobJonkman1> :)
[06:30] <azend> I've been pretty smashed the past couple of weeks and haven't had much sit down time to go and set everything up
[06:30] <BobJonkman1> Not many registrations yet: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ca/2393-guelph-raring-ringtail-release-party/
[06:30] <BobJonkman1> Should be fine.  These things mostly run themselves.
[06:30] <BobJonkman1> Does Diyode have a pop fridge?
[06:31] <azend> yup
[06:31] <BobJonkman1> Then you're all set.\
[06:31] <azend> it was pretty well stocked last time I checked
[06:32] <BobJonkman1> I hope Diyode still accepts cash for the pop fridge.  Kwartzlab is drifting to Ripplepay and Bitcoin; I may have to go thirsty there soon
[06:33] <azend> we'll take anything you've got
[06:33] <BobJonkman1> :)
[06:35] <azend> I've heard some KwartzLab members have rigged up some ponzi scheme with bit coins so that makes sense
[06:36] <BobJonkman1> LOL
[06:37] <azend> BobJonkman1: you should join us in #diyode
[06:37] <BobJonkman1> singpolyma is developing some Web app to do with Ripplepay exchange
[06:38] <azend> all I know is that, with the way they were talking at the last couple of meetings, it sounded like a ponzi scheme to me
[06:38] <azend> not that I have anything against it
[06:39] <azend> I would take part if I could :)
[06:43] <BobJonkman1> Here's what singpolyma is working on: http://rippleunion.com/
[06:45] <azend> I'm glad Ubuntu has decided to continue on having a regular release cycle
[06:45] <BobJonkman1> Really? Why?
[06:46] <BobJonkman1> I was looking forward to a rolling release
[06:46] <BobJonkman1> In fact, I may try out the new Debian Testing (Jessie?) to see how that goes
[06:46] <azend> moving to a rolling release structure would be detrimental to community around Ubuntu
[06:46] <BobJonkman1> And I think Linux Mint Debian Edition is already rolling
[06:47] <azend> and would destroy any excitement that builds from a new release being released
[06:47] <BobJonkman1> True, it would reduce the opportunity for release parties.
[06:47] <BobJonkman1> There would still be LTS releases, tho
[06:47] <azend> I like rolling releases for distros like arch but not for Ubuntu
[06:48] <azend> the LTS are almost always way behind the times though
[06:48] <BobJonkman1> Canonical has a way of alienating the community anyway.
[06:48] <azend> haha
[06:48] <BobJonkman1> All that hoop-jumping for approvals, f'rinstance
[06:48] <azend> very true
[06:49] <BobJonkman1> I'm not sure the last few releases have been very good. I had bad experiences with 12.10, for example
[06:49] <azend> really?
[06:49] <BobJonkman1> And there were some earlier ones that were terrible, too.  I think 10.04 had broken Intel graphic drivers, for example.
[06:50] <azend> I've heard they were pretty good
[06:50] <BobJonkman1> Later point releases (10.04.2) were better.
[06:51] <azend> 13.04 is just an expansion on 12.10 with emphasis on speed
[06:51] <azend> so I guess we'll see
[06:51] <BobJonkman1> So far, 13.04 seems OK.  The newer kernel (or maybe some drivers) are now detecting all the buttons on my laptop.
[06:51] <BobJonkman1> I still have to experiment with hibernation and sleep
[06:52] <BobJonkman1> And I really want to find an up-to-date Synaptics touchpad driver for Ubuntu. The toggle hotspot doesn't work on mine (there's no separate button)
[06:52] <BobJonkman1> And I've never used the fingerprint scanner on this laptop.
[06:53] <azend> I've never had a fingerprint reader work in Ubuntu properly
[06:54] <BobJonkman1> It was pretty complicated setting up the PAM integration.  I gave up on an earlier version (10.10 maybe)
[06:58] <azend> I know system 76 automatically does that for you
[06:59] <azend> maybe look at their docs?
[07:00] <BobJonkman1> They've got their own hardware, I'm not sure how applicable it would be.
[07:00] <BobJonkman1> I'm using an HP ProBook
[07:01] <BobJonkman1> Which does have *some* Linux support on the HP site