[00:00] anyone successfully put ubuntu touch onto kindle fire? === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ === Deihmos_ is now known as Deihmos [03:44] Hello everyone [03:44] I am here for a few questions [03:44] can someone help me? [03:46] I am following te instructions on http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ [03:46] then I started qtcreator [03:47] and then, in the example tutorial it says that i have to create new Ubuntu -> Ubuntu UI project.. but that option is not present on my qt creator [03:47] some tips?? === CEnnis91_ is now known as CEnnis91 === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === Lloir is now known as Lloir|afk [09:04] how to create ubuntu touch tablet mg [09:05] can any one help [09:06] how to create ubuntu touch img === Lloir|afk is now known as Lloir [09:22] how to make ubuntu touch img [09:23] patr: hi [09:23] patr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting describes how to port Ubuntu Touch to other devices [09:25] does anyone know how the status of "whosthere" currently is? https://launchpad.net/whosthere [09:26] or does the dev happen to be here...i once saw hin in a ubuntu channel? [09:29] gehre.matthias@gmail.com is them.. [09:30] seems like he is offline. but i query'd him [09:31] if ubuntu touch is really ready and whosthere too i might use it starting june [09:33] you could email him to get an update on the status? [09:34] i am quite sure he was in irc. probably US-person and sleeping now [09:34] https://launchpad.net/~m-gehre [09:34] IRC: [09:34] matge on irc.freenode.net [09:35] Based in Texas it seems. [09:37] so he is quite asleep now. i will wait for a while and email him if he does not appear online within 2 days [09:38] user82: he's not been in here since March 29th [09:39] oh you can look that up..i forgot [09:39] then email [10:25] hi, i've a little prob with version 119 : [10:25] List of devices attached [10:25] ???????????? no permissions [10:25] i can't use adb root adb shell or adb reboot ?! === lubuntu is now known as Guest48918 === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch [10:48] dpm: I just saw this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1178148 [10:48] Launchpad bug 1178148 in Ubuntu Clock App "clock numbers should not be used as a string" [Undecided,New] [10:49] * dpm looks [10:49] dpm: Is this how it is done in other projects? Are numbers usually translated? [10:51] nik90, they are usually not. However, the reason they are not marked as translatable is because the underlying locale settings take care of displaying the right format. The thing is, I'm not sure how this is taken care of in Qt [10:51] tsdgeos, do you happen to know? ^^ [10:52] dpm: I will also have a look into the qt docs to see if they support such locale settings [10:53] nik90, cool. Some of this should apply: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qtquick-internationalization.html#8-use-locale-to-extend-localization-features - the only thing to bear in mind is that we're not using Qt's native i18n system. We use gettext in the SDK's i18n.tr() calls [10:54] but Qt.Locale should still work [10:56] http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qml-qtquick2-locale.html [10:56] dpm: yeah just saw the last link [10:56] so I could use something like "The value is: " + Number(23443.34).toLocaleString(Qt.locale()) [10:57] Hey. [10:59] dpm: I will create a MP removing the i18n.tr() calls from the numbers and replacing them with Qt.locale() calls. [10:59] dpm: qlocale should handle that yeah [10:59] not sure about the 0 stuff for arabic locales though [10:59] but that's what it's there for [10:59] hello! I need some ui-toolkit advice. I'm just poking around to learn all this stuff. [11:00] tsdgeos: is this syntax correct Number(23443.34).toLocaleString(Qt.locale()) [11:00] I have a ListView filled with Standards. I'm trying to give them icons which are populated from jpegs on the internets that have varying dimensions. It looks weird that they're not all square - what's the best way to crop them to be so? [11:01] nik90: haven't done much locale use in qml sorry, can't tell :/ [11:02] maybe this is a stupid question but is it easy to adopt the lockscreen color? [11:02] tsdgeos: no prob, I will get this in and test it with users. [11:02] with easy i mean: settings not rom modding [11:03] nik90, I haven't done much locale-related stuff in QML, either, but from the example in the docs, it looks sensible [11:04] kaleo, jppiiroinen, perhaps you can help Laney with his question? ^^ [11:05] in fact it could be possible that no resizing is taking place at all [11:05] Laney: what version of qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin do you have? [11:05] Laney: apt-cache policy qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin [11:05] kaleo: 0.1.43 (saucy) [11:06] Laney: that issue you are seeing should be fixed with a later version [11:06] Laney: try installing https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ppa [11:06] k [11:07] can that get published for saucy too? :-) [11:07] tsdgeos, also, while we're at it, we spoke a few days ago about using standaloneMonthName and you mentioned it wasn't working as expected and you proposed a fix upstream. How's that coming along? Do you have a link to the bug report or the branch you submitted upstream to keep track of it? [11:07] dpm: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,54214 [11:08] fixed for 5.1 [11:08] you can ping Mirv if you want it backported in our 5.0.2 packages i guess === XenGi_ is now known as XenGi [11:08] cool, thanks tsdgeos! [11:10] kaleo: yes! looks excellent now, thank you === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik [11:11] dpm: Laney: that's the way we like it :) [11:11] :-) [11:12] https://ubuntuone.com/5lsRZ3ePOOhKErbBuiRZHp [11:12] That looks pretty awesome, looking forward to see the app :) [11:14] Laney, feel free to add it to the list on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Collection - we're collecting cool apps that are being written with the SDK there [11:14] sure - hopefully will get it minimally usable shortly [11:14] It's only a bit of a playground so that I can figure this stuff out before moving to work on settings stuff [11:16] dear qt creator, please to be detecting my nexus 7, love laney [11:20] Laney: what image are you running on your n7? [11:20] yesterday [11:20] 118? [11:20] how do i find out? [11:21] adb shell grep JENKINS /system/ubuntu_stamp [11:21] JENKINS_BUILD=119 [11:22] 116 but nm, had to do the kill/start-server dance [11:23] really not sure about the new layout of the devices tab in qtcreator [11:23] tabs in the middle of ths screen, oriented sideways [11:23] makey no sense [11:24] that ui could do with a bit of work [11:24] hmm, latest qt update seems to have broken all the collections apps [11:24] works though [11:26] Mirv: you around? [11:27] he's on vacation today, national holiday [11:30] popey: broken in what sense? [11:35] tsdgeos: white screen when starting them [11:35] popey: ouch, [11:35] dropping letters, samegame, weather, clock... [11:41] * popey reflashes device [11:45] sorry to ask again: can you cange the lockscreen color of ubuntu touch? === wiliam_ is now known as wiliam [12:02] ok, confirmed, a clean install of #119 works, but updating qt from qtcreator (enable developer mode) breaks most of the apps [12:06] popey, what does updating qt from qtcreator mean [12:06] i think it adds the qt beta ppa and then updates [12:06] Mirv pushed a new qt update yesterday [12:07] so when you "enable developer mode" on in qtcreator it pulls in that new qt package [12:07] going to do it now again to see what it pulls in that's broken [12:07] popey, did they push 5.0.2? [12:08] yeah, ogra_ and mirv were discussing it here last night i think [12:08] * popey scrolls back [12:09] popey, I dont see it for raring [12:09] no, its in a ppa [12:09] but you wont see it in a normal image flash, i think it gets added by qtcreator, which is what I'm just confirming now === wiliam is now known as waa [12:10] popey, ok, but that would be crazy wrong [12:10] yup, qtcreator adds.. gpg: key 179518B2: public key "Launchpad PPA for Canonical Qt5 Edgers" imported [12:10] hmm [12:10] i see it pulling in packages like... Get:39 http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper/ubuntu/ raring/main libqgsttools-p1 armhf 5.0.2-2ubuntu1~raring1~test2 [37.6 kB] [12:11] popey, and when does it do that? [12:11] popey, enable developer tools? [12:12] it's /usr/share/qtcreator/ubuntu/scripts/qtc_device_developertools that does it [12:12] which is called when you hit the "enable developer" option in qtcreator devices tab [12:12] $ADB apt-add-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper -y [12:12] right, so that should no longer use the PPA, should use archive === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [12:12] *poke jppiiroinen [12:12] public holiday over there I think [12:13] popey, oh heck half of europe is out [12:15] popey, can you log a bug, then we should comment that line out so it uses the main repo instead [12:16] yup [12:18] problem is for people who are using 12.04 or 12.10, they need the ppa [12:18] or _a_ ppa [12:18] no, ignore me [12:18] ☻ [12:18] confused on-device ppa with desktop ppa [12:18] right [12:21] the idea shouldn't be that the ppa does not break anything? :) [12:21] Mirv is on holidays? [12:22] he is [12:22] along with much of europe [12:22] popey: so no fixing the PPA until he is back? [12:22] kaleo, I dont know why we need to use the PPA [12:22] the packages are all in raring [12:23] indeed, or don't use the ppa [12:23] (on device) [12:23] pmcgowan: for the device no need but as popey was saying [12:23] pmcgowan: 12.04 does not have qt5 [12:23] this is specifically loading it to the device [12:24] pmcgowan: popey: do we know why apps are broken? [12:24] is there a bug report about that? [12:24] (about apps being broken and why) [12:24] havent made them yet [12:24] not that I know of [12:24] that's really not cool [12:24] bug 1178242 [12:24] bug 1178242 in Ubuntu QtCreator Plugins "qtc_device_developertools adds ppa which can break on-device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1178242 [12:24] going on holidays [12:24] like that. [12:25] well, it was either put it in the ppa yesterday or friday [12:25] ah now I remember seeing some discussion on this, I thought they decided not to publish it [12:25] popey, or not at all until it passed testing which it clearly would not [12:25] "I was encouraged to copy my Qt 5.0.2 for Ubuntu 13.04 to qt5-proper PPA [12:25] after testing it" [12:25] from Mirv's email [12:25] hmm [12:25] well.sure. [12:25] I wonder who encouraged him [12:25] ok lets figure out whats broke [12:26] yeah [12:26] popey: do we have an accurate list of the apps that break? [12:26] kaleo, popey has a busted system, what can he get off of it [12:26] * popey reboots device [12:26] pmcgowan: busted as in no shell coming up? [12:27] no, shell is fine [12:27] some apps start but give a white screen [12:27] popey: ok, we need the logs for these apps [12:27] popey: you know how to start them from console? [12:28] i can ssh in [12:28] ok [12:28] and then mediaplayer-app --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/media-player.desktop [12:28] or something along these lines [12:28] ok [12:29] ubuntu-clock-app --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/ubuntu-clock-app.desktop [12:29] is what i did [12:29] right [12:30] nothing appearing on device [12:30] popey: any log? [12:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5647736/ [12:30] /usr/share/applications/ubuntu-clock-app.desktop exists? [12:30] yes [12:30] so far it all looks good [12:30] tab completion ☻ [12:31] popey: so the shell is still visible? [12:31] popey, are you a dev? [12:31] popey: no white window or anything? [12:31] no [12:31] let me try from the launcher [12:31] popey: do you reproduce the same on your desktop? [12:31] bah, now it starts [12:31] ffs [12:31] ah ah :) [12:32] lemme do more testing [12:34] k [12:34] dont understand why everything was white boxes earlier [12:34] even after a reboot, yet now it all starts okay [12:35] popey, I can try it here in a bit [12:40] popey, you do not happen to know about lockscreen color i guess? [12:42] popey: so that corroborates what Mirv was saying in his email [12:43] popey: pmcgowan: but I suspect, as boiko was saying, that the telephony app will be broken [12:46] kaleo, should we remove it from the proper PPA and have it only in staging? I am still unlcear why it was promoted [12:49] pmcgowan: still unclear as well; what you are proposing makes sense [12:51] kaleo, its the beta-proper where they are staged [12:57] popey: are you going to test all the apps systematically with 5.0.2? [12:58] sure am ☻ [12:59] popey: excellent [13:00] phone and music app so far don't start properly [13:00] darn. [13:00] (and media player) but that was broken for me already [13:00] popey: media player got a critical fix yesterday [13:01] popey, music app? [13:01] the music link on the launcher [13:01] just gives a white screen [13:01] popey: that's a fake app, other fake apps don't launch? [13:01] thats the only one so far [13:01] strange [13:02] popey, kaleo its broken here, so not related [13:02] pmcgowan: you mean music app is broken here or media player? [13:02] music [13:02] pmcgowan: ok [13:02] pmcgowan: popey: so, so far, only phone app [13:02] and media player, but that's been broken for me for a week or more [13:02] is broken [13:02] popey: upgrade it should be fixed [13:02] mieda also white screen [13:02] it == media player [13:02] I'm on todays image [13:02] 119 [13:03] maybe the fix did not make it into the image [13:03] I am on 118, music and media broken then [13:03] renato__: so the mediap player fix does not seem do have made it into today's image [13:04] pmcgowan: we need a separate bug report for the fake music app not launching properly [13:04] kaleo, we are at the point we should remove all the fake anyway [13:04] but I can log it [13:04] pmcgowan: fair enough [13:05] pmcgowan: let's log a bug for removing them? [13:05] +1 to removing the cardboard cut-outs [13:05] I will against the image [13:06] i thought backgrounded apps were suspended/paused? [13:06] top is showing lots of qtwebprocess processes eating some cpu [13:06] not a lot, but some [13:06] I have twitter, web, facebook etc all open [13:06] media player is working for me === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:06] an none in focus [13:06] just not rotating [13:06] ? [13:06] none are focussed [13:06] popey: only the main process [13:06] on shell screen [13:07] popey: if it forks out other processes they are not suspended yet [13:07] ahh [13:07] makes sense, thanks [13:07] popey: cheap implementation.. [13:07] kaleo, we should remove the media player icon from the launcher [13:07] renato_: fair enough: bug against unity [13:08] kaleo, since the designers do not want to launch it without a movie [13:08] renato_: popey reports that the media player is not working for them with image 119 and Qt 5.0.2 [13:08] popey: do you have a log of the media player? [13:08] hmm [13:08] kaleo, popey is working fine for me on the today image [13:09] just got booted out of my ssh session when starting media playback [13:09] renato_: toda's image has qt 5.0.1 [13:09] +y [13:09] renato_: can you try with Qt 5.0.2? [13:09] renato_: it's available in the qt5 proper ppa [13:09] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-proper [13:09] it's not reliable - media app [13:09] kaleo, popey: for qt 5.0.2 you need to install libqt5multimedia5-plugins [13:10] renato_: popey nice [13:10] I am waiting for the qt 5.0.2 landed to add this on control file [13:10] i can get it to start one time in many [13:11] popey do you have "libqt5multimedia5-plugins" installed? [13:12] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5647829/ [13:12] renato_: it feels like you should not wait or we will run into a state where the media player will be broken for a day [13:12] no [13:12] popey: do "fg" [13:12] popey: just after it started [13:12] Failed to get the current playback position. [13:12] spammed [13:12] kaleo, but if I add this then the mp app will be broken for < qt 5.0.2 [13:12] popey: and pass it a video file [13:13] ah [13:13] renato_: any way to support both? [13:13] renato_: with the | operator maybe? [13:13] kaleo: black screen [13:13] no controls [13:13] yet i ran it a couple of minutes ago and it played sintel [13:14] popey, try run from the shell [13:14] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~/Videos$ media-player --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/media-player.desktop sintel_trailer-1080p.mp4 [13:14] 15:11 < renato_> popey do you have "libqt5multimedia5-plugins" installed? [13:14] ^^ what i did [13:14] no, i dont kaleo [13:14] but it played a moment ago [13:14] popey: you need it [13:14] popey: it must have been before you had Qt 5.0.2 no? [13:14] right, now it works from the launcher [13:14] haven't installed any additional packages [13:15] hence me saying it's unreliable [13:15] popey: so libqt5multimedia5-plugins is not instealled or you mean you did not install it manually? [13:15] -e [13:15] no, i didnt install it manually [13:15] popey: can you check if it's installed? [13:16] i just started media player form command line and got a black screen (see above command line) but then tried from the videos lens and it worked [13:17] so it _can_ work without libqt5multimedia5-plugins installed [13:17] popey: does it work reliably from the video lens? [13:17] 15:15 < kaleo> popey: can you check if it's installed? [13:17] 14:14:27 < popey> no, i dont kaleo [13:17] ☻ [13:17] 15:15 < kaleo> popey: so libqt5multimedia5-plugins is not instealled or you mean you did not install it manually? [13:17] 15:15 < popey> no, i didnt install it manually [13:17] 14:14:59 < popey> haven't installed any additional packages [13:18] ☻ [13:18] it could have been automatic [13:18] please check [13:18] its not installed [13:18] hence "no, I don't" [13:18] ok then [13:18] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~/Videos$ apt-cache policy libqt5multimedia5-plugins [13:18] it was ambiguous [13:18] libqt5multimedia5-plugins: [13:18] perfect [13:18] Installed: (none) [13:18] Candidate: 5.0.2-2ubuntu1~raring1~test2 [13:18] Version table: [13:18] 5.0.2-2ubuntu1~raring1~test2 0 [13:18] 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper/ubuntu/ raring/main armhf Packages [13:18] sorry [13:18] renato_: did you see that? [13:19] renato_: does it work reliably from the video lens? [13:19] renato_: wrong nick [13:19] kaleo, yes, but timo e-mails says that we should install it [13:19] popey: does it work reliably from the video lens? [13:19] yes [13:19] kaleo, I will add it into Recommends sections as timo suggest [13:19] renato_: good idea [13:19] popey: good then [13:20] kaleo: rotation not working at all in 119, all the apps that used to rotate do not anymore. media, camera and browser [13:20] bfiller: renato said so and was about to file the bug [13:20] bfiller: 99% chance it has nothing to do with the ui toolkit [13:21] kaleo: probably a sensor regression or something? [13:21] bfiller: need to find out if it's a problem with qtsensors or base system [13:21] bfiller: can somebody looki into that? I'm kinda hands full here [13:22] PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND [13:22] 165 system 20 0 7028 1612 1252 S 89.1 0.1 154:17.87 sensorservice [13:22] that doesn't look good [13:22] my nexus 4 is painfully slow, with sensorservice eating cpu [13:22] jhodapp: seems the rotation support is busted in today's build (119). Can you see what's going on? suspect something changed in sensors or something [13:22] kaleo: yes [13:23] bfiller, what are you using to test it? [13:23] jhodapp: galaxy nexus [13:23] bfiller, I mean which app, sorry [13:23] jhodapp: media player, camera and browser were rotating in 118 but not 119 [13:24] bfiller, interesting...I can take a look...anything interesting in logcat? [13:26] jhodapp: don't see anything in there of interest [13:27] jhodapp: qt was updated to 5.0.2, that must have broken something [13:27] bfiller, yeah, there's a very good chance that's true === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [13:27] popey, can one change the lockscreen color on nexus 4? [13:28] bfiller, I have to update my GN before I can test [13:28] user82: i dont know [13:28] hmh okay..thanks [13:28] will test it "end of may" when the images are "usable" [13:28] i guess it eats battery a lot [13:28] jhodapp: yup, reflash with lastest [13:29] can you flash a custom android kernel with ubuntu touch? it uses android kernel anyways i read? [13:30] user82: it eats battery when things go wrong, but generally battery life is pretty good [13:31] user82: it currently uses the android kernel [13:34] oSoMoN: the update to qt 5.0.2 broke the browser. the dpr stuff is not working anymore (: [13:35] bfiller: huh, does this mean the patch was not carried forward to 5.0.2? [13:35] oSoMoN: can you follow up with timo to see what patches of our didn't make it into 5.0.2 [13:35] oSoMoN: suspecting that, yes [13:35] sure [13:48] bfiller: pong [13:48] sergiusens: hey, can we spin another build with qt5-proper ppa removed? the qt 5.0.2 stuff that landed there broke lots of things [13:52] popey, thanks for the infio [13:52] but i guess it cannot beat my custom rom+kernel battery wise... [13:54] * popey shrugs [13:55] bfiller: sure, I'll respin with the proper ppa removed. One sec, I'll update [13:56] bfiller: so there is nothing in that ppa that would be missing from the archives? Like qtwebkit? [13:59] sergiusens: hmnn, not sure [14:00] hi, i'm having problems for running a UI Touch application from Qt Creator in the Device..... when i select build -> Ubuntu Touch -> Run application on device...... i get: [10:56:58] To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo ". in the Qt Creator console..... any ideas? [14:00] the device seems properly connected, as in the Device tab shows [14:01] cyphermox, if you add a hangout I'll join it. :-) [14:01] cyphermox, or we can just use IRC -- my questions aren't complicated [14:01] mpt: ok give me a secong [14:02] popey: Are you having fun with all these bugs? :P [14:02] cyphermox, bbl, fire evacuation [14:03] bfiller: oh... maybe not, we are using the one in daily-build-next [14:04] bfiller: updated qt, probably means we need to recompile qtubuntu [14:06] gatox, what version of the image are you running [14:06] pmcgowan, daily installed yesterday..... yesterday i was able to run an application in this way.... but now is not possible [14:07] gatox, ok, you need an update to the android tools, let me see if it made it to the ppa [14:07] pmcgowan: it's in for raring and in the archives for saucy [14:07] * sergiusens is not sure that is the problem though [14:08] sergiusens, I think so, qtcreator plugin uses adb which does not have permission [14:08] without the update === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:08] pmcgowan: well the quick check gatox can do is to adb kill-server && sudo adb start-server [14:09] indeed [14:09]