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Kiloscremora minora05:31
Kilosyou are early Trixar_za 05:31
Kiloswet the bed?05:31
Trixar_zaNo, had to wake up early05:31
Kilosah05:32
trender(.)(.)06:04
trender  __06:04
Kiloshi trender 06:04
trenderyo06:04
inetprogood morning Kilos, Trixar_za, trender and every other lurker out there06:12
Kilosmorning inetpro 06:13
Trixar_zaMorning inetpro06:13
inetproKilos: how are the sheep this morning?06:13
Kiloshavent looked yet inetpro , and your pest?06:14
Kilosstill frozen here06:14
inetproquiet at the mo06:14
Kilosany koekoes left?06:14
inetproone rooster and a hen with 7 chicks06:15
inetprooh and a few others, bigger ones06:16
inetprohe killed almost all the bantams06:16
Kiloswhew06:16
inetprostarted with 5 chicks from my brother and had just more than twenty of them already06:18
Kiloslol ya bantams bread well06:19
Kilosbreead06:19
Kilossjoe06:19
Kilosbreed06:19
inetproyep, nice to see them grow and multiply 06:22
inetpronot fun to see them get killed06:22
Kilosyeah makes one feel like a successful farmer06:23
Kilosthats why chickens are better06:23
Kilostry losing 5 sheep in one night and see how that feels06:23
inetproeish!06:24
Kilosand work out the cash value06:24
Kiloscoulda bought me a lekker pc06:24
inetproja that hurts big time06:24
Kilosthe worst park was they were all preggy ewes06:25
Kilospart06:25
inetproai!06:25
Kilosso its like ten gone06:25
inetproyou see, there's a lesson in all this06:26
Kilosoh?06:26
inetprothere is no such thing as set and forget06:26
Kilosnope you are right06:26
inetproeverything you do, you must manage it well06:27
Kilosya but not easy to spend every night watching06:27
Symmetriahttp://beetlesinthebush.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/img_4069_lvl_1200x800_usm.jpg06:27
Kilosone gets kinda sleepy06:27
Symmetriagod thats a nice photo06:28
Symmetriacant wait to get that lens and play06:28
KilosSymmetria, do you still work?06:30
Kilos8ta needs help06:30
SymmetriaKilos haha if 8ta wants to approach me and offer me insane money I'd think about it ;p06:31
SymmetriaI'd do work for 8ta but it would cost them 9600 USD a week ;p06:31
Kiloswhew06:31
HawkiesZAWhat lens is that Symmetria?06:32
Symmetriahawkies a canon MP-65E 06:33
Symmetriaits a very very unique lens, canon is the only one that makes anything like it06:33
HawkiesZA65mm Macro?06:33
Symmetriaits a 65mm f/2.8 macro lens. except unlike most macro lenses which do a 1:1, this does a 5x magnification06:33
HawkiesZAGood grief06:33
Symmetriayeah, except its unique because its got a 5x magnification 06:33
SymmetriaI ordered one that I got at an insanely good price, its arriving today or tomorrow06:34
HawkiesZANice06:34
Symmetriapicked up that lens for 5 grand at a 50% discount06:35
HawkiesZAI'm still enjoying my 24-70mm f/2.8 :D06:35
Symmetriabought it because its the one lens that will make my camera gear very unique, very very few people have that lens 06:35
SymmetriaHawkiesZA I bought a 70-200 f/2.8 the other day 06:35
Symmetriamade by Tamron 06:35
Symmetriafantastic lens 06:35
HawkiesZASigma for me06:35
HawkiesZAThe Nikkor lens is just way too expensive06:35
magespawngood morning all06:36
Symmetriahttp://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/peacock3.jpg06:36
HawkiesZAAnd the sigma was cheap 2nd hand at orms06:36
Symmetriacheck that out hawkies 06:36
Symmetriaand keep in mind, that shot was taken at a 1600 ISO level06:36
HawkiesZAWith a Canon?06:36
SymmetriaHawkiesZA I would *seriously* suggest you look at tamron lenses, they tend to be at same price as the sigma's but they are far better lenses06:36
Kiloshi magespawn 06:37
HawkiesZAI checked out the Tamron version before settling on Sigma for the 24-70mm. The Sigma got good reviews in general. It's obviously not as good as the Nikkor, but it's good enough for the hobbyist without breaking my bank account.06:38
magespawnhey Kilos06:38
HawkiesZAI appreciate the value of some good review ;)06:39
magespawni see we are #ubuntu-za-photography this morning 06:39
HawkiesZAWoooooo!06:39
Kiloshehe06:39
HawkiesZAIf we want to bring it back to Ubuntu, we can talk about the editing software we use if you like :P06:40
inetproHawkiesZA: the sad part is that Symmetria is not even running ubuntu06:41
HawkiesZABlasphemy!06:41
HawkiesZA:D06:41
inetpro:-)06:41
Symmetriaheh HawkiesZA the reason Im not running ubuntu is because the photo editing stuff just isnt available for it06:41
magespawnnah is all good06:41
Kilosgimp no good?06:42
Symmetriathe lack of things like lightroom and photoshop for linux is problematic to say the least06:42
Symmetriakilos gimp can't touch photoshop CS6, and there is nothing like lightroom available 06:42
Kilosthen really show how clever you are and write something06:43
Kilosthe idea is to get ubuntu ahead06:43
HawkiesZASymmetria, you can use Aftershot Pro for Raw06:43
HawkiesZAThat's what I use because the Open Source stuff just didn't cut it :/06:43
HawkiesZAAnd then GIMP for the final touch-ups06:44
Symmetriakilos the solution is to really get adobe to release linux versions06:44
Kilostune them06:44
Symmetriathe fact is, adobe is still the defacto go to point for image and video editing06:44
HawkiesZASure, but there are other options06:44
HawkiesZACheaper options too, with CC now06:44
Symmetriaits the same with video software, stuff like after effects and premiere are soooooo far ahead of the pack (even in the windows world)06:44
Kilosask them or beg them06:44
HawkiesZAI aint paying for Photoshop :P06:45
SymmetriaHawkiesZA you seen that adobe have scrapped perpetual licensing for PS?06:45
HawkiesZAI'll agree with Premiere06:45
Symmetriaactually ALL of their products 06:45
HawkiesZAMan Premiere is good. Nothing comes close.06:45
Symmetriathey have gone to a cloud based license model, and the pricing is actually pretty damn good 06:45
HawkiesZAYep. CS is dead, long live CC06:45
Symmetriayou can license individual products at $20 a month, or their ENTIRE suite for $50 a month06:45
Symmetria(I do the latter, that way I get premier pro, after effects, photoshop, lightroom and everything else for $50 a month)06:46
HawkiesZAThat's a lot of money for a hobby06:47
HawkiesZAToo much for me06:47
HawkiesZAAnd that actually works out cheaper than before which says a lot06:47
Trixar_zaRip off in favour or making more money. They'll also never will release for Linux. They're perpetually making BAD business decisions. It's only because they're currently the go-to product that they even survive.06:47
Symmetriaheh, I use it as a tax writeoff since Im a contractor06:47
Symmetriaclaim Im using it to create business adverts and shit ;p06:47
Symmetriaheh trixar they also survive because they hold patents on half the damn stuff06:48
inetpropatents must DIE!!!06:48
SymmetriaHawkiesZA have you ever used lightroom?06:49
Trixar_zaThat too. I still don't think we should allow ideas and abstract concepts to be patented. Actual design process used for creating physical products and actual machines yes, but not ideas and mathematical formulas.06:49
HawkiesZASymmetria, used it briefly on trial06:50
HawkiesZAI'll agree that it's good, but it's not good enough to lock me into a bad OS :P06:51
SymmetriaHawkiesZA heh, the thing is, windows prior to windows 7 really sucked, windows 8 is a steaming pile of shit06:53
Symmetriabut windows 7 itself, it hasnt given me any issues06:53
Symmetriathough again, most of my adobe work is actually done on mac06:53
Symmetriaand os-x is basically freebsd with a very nice front-end 06:54
Symmetriaman, Im struggling with the questions in this assignment for my photography course06:56
magespawnanybody used Darktable?06:59
HawkiesZAmagespawn, yeah, but I didn't like the bouncy workflow07:00
magespawnis this a picture of someones mother-in-law Symmetria? http://beetlesinthebush.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/img_4069_lvl_1200x800_usm.jpg07:00
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Kiloshi Guest48381 07:01
Guest48381Hi07:01
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za07:01
Guest48381Thanks.07:02
magespawnHawkiesZA: it seems to get very mixed reviews07:02
Symmetriamagespawn lol its an incredible picture07:03
Kilosjust restarting xchat07:03
Symmetriahttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Lnc1OA3Ez9Y/UWxNhY_nTrI/AAAAAAAAN4I/TMUWpePlBbQ/w975-h672-no/DKP_9319.jpg07:03
Symmetriathat was also taken with that MP-E lens 07:03
Symmetriaits a snowflake ;p07:03
magespawnfor those into wildlife photography try outdoorphoto.co.za the forums are active and helpful07:04
Symmetriamagespawn you saw my peacock and monkey photos right?07:05
magespawndon't think so, just the male peacock07:06
KilosGuest48381, do you need any help with linux/ubuntu07:06
Kilosthis is the ubuntu linux help channel07:06
Symmetria(be warned, these photos are *large*)07:06
Symmetriahttp://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/monkey3.jpg07:06
Guest48381Um, no. Is this a help room?07:06
Symmetriahttp://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/monkey1.jpg07:06
Kiloswith the odd photography and farming chats07:06
Guest48381Oh, thanks Kilos.07:06
Kilosyw07:06
Symmetriaguest heh, its a help room but occasionally when no one is talking about ubuntu or asking for help we talk about other crap as well :)07:07
Symmetriato keep life in the room! :)07:07
Kiloshi Vince-0 07:07
Guest48381Is unity any good?07:07
Symmetriaheh magespawn that monkey eating the french fry, I gave it the french fry07:07
Symmetriaits quite incredible though, you zoom in and you can see its little thumbnail07:07
KilosGuest48381, yip with some getting used to07:08
Kilosalso kubuntu is good07:08
Kiloshi psyatw 07:08
psyatwhi Kilos07:08
Kilosalso xubuntu and some of the other flavours arent bad07:08
Guest48381I tried Ubuntu Gnome, software center wasn't very good. So I went back to Fedora.07:08
Symmetriahttp://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/cameraman_got_owned.jpg <=== that makes me laugh07:09
Guest48381Kilos: Is it any good with a touchscreen ultrabook?07:09
Kilosdo you know ubuntu as when it was still gnome2 Guest48381 ?07:09
Guest48381Kilos: yes.07:09
Vince-0Hi Kilos at al07:10
Kilosok then to stay similar you can install mate on ubuntu07:10
Kilosmate is very similar to gnome207:10
Kilosfork of gnome207:10
Guest48381I prefer gnome-shell, Kilos. But thanks.07:12
Guest48381I wanted to try Ubuntu with Unity, but I heard it has Amazon spyware features.07:12
magespawnGuest48381: those can be removed07:12
Guest48381Opt out? It should be opt in07:13
Guest48381Shuttleworth is killing gnu/linux07:13
magespawnnot so much "spyware" as real time commercial adverts from Amazon based on search queries, local and internet07:13
magespawnagreed is should be opt in07:13
magespawns/is/it07:13
Guest48381Thanks Kilos, magespawn. Bye.07:16
Kilosalso you can install 12.04 LTS Guest48381 no amazon to worry there and still years of support07:16
Kilosvisit again Guest48381 07:16
Guest48381Will do.07:16
magespawnGuest48381: come by again sometime07:16
Guest48381How many rooms/channels are on this chat?07:16
Kilosvisit full time too if you like07:16
Guest48381hahahha07:17
Guest48381I just might.07:17
Kiloswe live here07:17
Guest48381hehe07:17
Kiloshehe07:17
Kiloswe also have an afrikaans channel07:17
magespawnSymmetria: spray something like amonia on/around the camera to stop lions doing that07:17
Kilosaw07:17
magespawnexpensive snack07:17
Kilosyay at least her wasnt a chatmosphere okey07:18
Kiloshe07:19
Symmetriahrm, this is kinda neat, adobe doesnt whine when I install the cloud suite on my desktop and my mac notebook07:19
magespawnone of the benefits of a cloud licence07:23
Symmetrianeeded the thing installed on my macbook for tethered shooting07:24
Symmetriacertain things arent practical to shoot non-tethered 07:24
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Kiloshi Vince-0 morgs 08:02
morgshi Kilos08:03
Kilosinetpro, see , 37 nicks08:04
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magespawnnot all active Kilos08:16
Kilosno matter\08:16
Kilosonly 4 sleeping08:17
magespawnjust means you cannot retire, they have to all be active08:17
Kilosmaybe i must stir the pot on the tweet place08:18
Kiloslol nice try08:18
magespawnbesides is you leave then it is onlu 3608:18
magespawns/onlu/only08:18
Kilosnice to see wizzy here again after so long. hi wizzy 08:19
magespawnalways good to have people coming back08:19
Kiloshmm...08:19
superflyhi Kilos, magespawn, morgs08:33
Kilosmorning superfly 08:33
morgshi hi08:33
magespawnhey superfly08:36
Kiloshi Tinuva 08:57
Kilos3808:58
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ThatGraemeGuybelated morning all08:59
superflyohi ThatGraemeGuy08:59
magespawnmine only says 37 Kilos, Maaz and Chanserv can't be counted08:59
magespawnhowdy ThatGraemeGuy08:59
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 09:00
Kilossigh09:00
magespawnno rest for the wicked Kilos09:00
Kilosi spose ubuntulog either09:00
magespawnof course not, only peeps09:00
Kiloslol09:00
Kiloshmm...09:01
nuvolario/ aloha09:03
magespawnhi nuvolari09:03
Kiloslo nuvolari jy is maar skaars ne09:03
Kiloshoe gaan dit seun?09:03
nuvolarihi magespawn, oom Kilos, superfly, ThatGraemeGuy 09:03
nuvolariaan die gang dankie oom09:04
nuvolarihoe gaan dit met oom?09:04
Kilosgoed dankie09:04
Kilosnet koud09:04
superflyhi nuvolari09:06
ThatGraemeGuy'lo :)09:07
magespawnnuvolari: you still want to know about the phone or you sorted?09:11
Kiloshmm... making like he is working09:17
nuvolariI have the memory of a goldfish these days09:20
magespawnlol09:20
Kilosrofl09:20
Symmetriahttp://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/472526_10151553837300528_1457037818_o.jpg09:21
Kilosthe hdd sharing on the list is attracting some attention09:21
Symmetriahahaha I finally got a photo of my dog 09:21
Symmetriashe's petrified of cameras so since she was lying asleep infront of my tripod09:21
Symmetriaand I didnt have to touch anything to get the shot09:21
sfxhola!09:42
Kilosai09:50
Kiloscooking and being the greeter bot is hard work09:50
Kiloshi bomberman 09:51
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za09:51
bombermanHi Kilos! Its me Steven :P09:51
Kiloslol hi there welcome back09:51
Kilosyou well bomberman ?09:52
bombermanyes man. forgot my other username. haha09:53
Kilossflr09:53
Kiloswe actually wondered where you were 2 nights ago09:54
Kilosbut the tweet place got you09:54
Kiloshehe09:54
bombermanyeah, that one. I stick with bomberman then :)09:55
Kiloshaha. nice to see you again09:56
Kiloshere that is09:56
Kilosi only turn on tweet place now and again09:56
bombermancool man! yeah, I got you on Twitter :)09:57
Squirmhello people10:23
Kiloshi Squirm 10:23
superflyhi Squirm10:24
superflyhi bomberman10:24
Kilosi wish seagate diskwizard had verbose googie in10:34
Kilosgoodie10:34
Kilosi like to see whats happening10:34
KilosMaaz, coffee on12:16
* Maaz starts grinding coffee12:16
Kilosinetpro, coffee time12:17
magespawnMaaz coffee please12:19
Maazmagespawn: Okay12:19
Kiloswb magespawn 12:19
magespawnhey Kilos12:19
magespawnjust in time for coffee12:19
Kiloswhy you show as away?12:19
magespawni was away12:20
magespawnjust walked back into the sho[12:20
magespawnshop12:20
Kilosah its going again12:20
Kiloswe hit 39 earlier12:20
Kiloshehe12:20
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos and magespawn!12:20
KilosMaaz, ty12:21
MaazYou are welcome Kilos12:21
magespawnMaaz botsnack12:21
Maazthanks, magespawn12:21
Kiloshehe12:21
gwoodtumbleweed: hey, i've been trying to get hold of you, you there?12:40
superflyhe's usually around, but might not be at his desk right now12:49
Kiloshi gwood 12:56
Kilosmagespawn, 4012:56
magespawnpretty cool12:56
psyatwhello magespawn12:58
psyatwhi gwood12:58
magespawnhey psyatw12:58
Kilosonly 5 under our record and that was at a meeting when drubin_  was still here12:59
gwoodok, thanks superfly13:04
gwoodhi everyone13:04
magespawnhey gwood13:08
magespawngoing away agian Kilos13:08
Kilosok go safe13:08
psyatwhi superfly13:09
psyatwfly safely with superfly airways13:09
Kiloshehe13:14
tumbleweedgwood: hi13:37
gwoodtumbleweed: hey, was just wondering if you still want me to set you up as an organizer for: http://www.meetup.com/The-Cape-Town-GNU-Linux-Meetup-Group/13:56
gwoodtumbleweed: hey, was just wondering if you still want me to set you up as an organizer for: http://www.meetup.com/The-Cape-Town-GNU-Linux-Meetup-Group/13:56
gwoodtumbleweed: hey, was just wondering if you still want me to set you up as an organizer for: http://www.meetup.com/The-Cape-Town-GNU-Linux-Meetup-Group/13:56
ThatGraemeGuyo_O13:56
gwoodtumbleweed: so that CLUG events can show up there13:56
gwoodi've setup that meetup, but i've gotten really busy lately, work, moving, etc. So seems a waste to not use that meetup13:57
tumbleweedgwood: thanks, yes please14:04
tumbleweedcan we give access to the rest of the CLUG committee?14:05
Kiloshehe looks  like a seroius stutter14:05
Kilosserious14:06
gwoodtumbleweed: sure, we can do that14:07
Symmetriahttp://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/901030_10151554166635528_292736664_o.jpg14:27
Symmetriaheh the power of a 500mm zoom lens14:27
trender(.)(.)15:25
trendertake some chik pix Symmetria15:26
achervhi15:38
achervKilos, hi15:38
Kiloshi acherv 15:38
achervHow are you today? 15:38
Kiloscold but good ty and you?15:39
Kilosvery cold here in the tvl15:39
Kiloswhere are you?15:39
achervsorry15:42
Kilosnp15:43
Kilosi meant where do you stay?15:43
Kiloshehe15:43
achervjoburg15:43
achervand you?15:43
Kiloseeek as cold as here15:43
Kiloswest of pretoria15:44
Kilossame minimums as jhb normally15:44
achervvery cold15:44
Kilosyeah and when you get older your internal combustion goodie dont work as well15:45
acherv.16:02
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achervCantide, hi16:27
Cantidehello :)16:28
Kiloshi Cantide 16:29
Cantidehey Kilos :)16:29
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Vince-0whootwhoot17:23
Vince-0nuvolari: ping17:23
Kiloslo smile4ever 17:32
Kilosyou sound happy Vince-0 17:32
Vince-0yar I'm awake at least17:32
Vince-0starting a dbnlug hangout in a bit and the turn out looks good17:33
Kilosah great17:33
Kiloswhen are more of them gonna join us here?17:33
Kilosbuncha slackers17:33
Vince-0kbmonkey, nuvolari and SmilyBorg are regulars17:34
Vince-0and they're the ones attending the hangout17:34
Kilosthe monkey and nuvolari been here long time17:34
Kilosthey are our peeps on loan to you17:35
Vince-0ha!17:35
Kiloshehe17:35
Vince-0there's 6 going, 4 maybes and 17 others not responded to the hangout invite17:35
Kilosacherv, tomorrow fone 183 onna 8ta fone and complain about your connection17:35
Kilosor if you lucky 187 goes straight to the data peeps17:37
achervthx17:38
Kilosnp17:39
Kilosyou just gotta keep revving them17:39
Kilosor soon we can start tweeting their CEO as well17:39
smile4everhi Kilos :)17:42
smile4everEvelien sĂȘ ek moet Afrikaans me julle praat17:44
smile4ever:p17:44
smile4everWaar is die Afrikaners?17:44
Kiloslol17:44
Kiloshulle is op #ubuntu-afr17:44
Kilosmaar rus nog17:44
smile4everKilos: altyd17:45
smile4everhulle het baie tyd17:45
smile4ever;)17:45
Kilosnee man hulle werk17:45
smile4everis jy seker? :p17:45
Kilosof eet nou17:45
smile4everbaie lekker ;)17:46
Kiloshulle word maar min daar sien ek17:46
Kilosohi kbmonkey wb17:49
kbmonkeygreets17:49
Cantidehai '<17:49
Kilos11 days to meeting kbmonkey dont forget17:50
kbmonkeygot it in the calendar Kilos 17:50
Kilosgood man17:50
Cantideoh yeah :)17:50
Cantidewow, the months fly by 'o'17:50
Kilosyeah17:50
Kilosoh my we got three Tonberry s17:52
Kiloshes been breeding17:52
Cantidea ton of em17:52
Tonberryi blame 8ta17:52
Kiloshehe17:52
Kilosah17:52
Kiloshere is their CEO on the tweet place @osmaseko17:58
Kilosi have just started the ball rolling17:58
Kiloswill see if he replies17:59
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:19
Kilostoo cold here by the pc18:19
smile4evergood night18:33
smile4ever:)18:33
Cantidegood night 'o'18:34
smile4everthanks :)18:34
smile4everbug18:34
smile4ever* hug18:34
Cantide'-';18:34
nuvolarikbmonkey: ping18:36
nuvolariwe lost you18:36
nuvolari:-/18:36
trenderyo19:04
Vince-0owk bed time20:27
trenderyo peeps20:37
trenderso theblezehen has officially fallen of the planet huh20:39
superfly"fallen of the planet"? my English parser is failing21:10
superflyAh, you meant "fallen off the planet"21:10
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