=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [05:31] cremora minora [05:31] you are early Trixar_za [05:31] wet the bed? [05:31] No, had to wake up early [05:32] ah [06:04] (.)(.) [06:04] __ [06:04] hi trender [06:04] yo [06:12] good morning Kilos, Trixar_za, trender and every other lurker out there [06:13] morning inetpro [06:13] Morning inetpro [06:13] Kilos: how are the sheep this morning? [06:14] havent looked yet inetpro , and your pest? [06:14] still frozen here [06:14] quiet at the mo [06:14] any koekoes left? [06:15] one rooster and a hen with 7 chicks [06:16] oh and a few others, bigger ones [06:16] he killed almost all the bantams [06:16] whew [06:18] started with 5 chicks from my brother and had just more than twenty of them already [06:19] lol ya bantams bread well [06:19] breead [06:19] sjoe [06:19] breed [06:22] yep, nice to see them grow and multiply [06:22] not fun to see them get killed [06:23] yeah makes one feel like a successful farmer [06:23] thats why chickens are better [06:23] try losing 5 sheep in one night and see how that feels [06:24] eish! [06:24] and work out the cash value [06:24] coulda bought me a lekker pc [06:24] ja that hurts big time [06:25] the worst park was they were all preggy ewes [06:25] part [06:25] ai! [06:25] so its like ten gone [06:26] you see, there's a lesson in all this [06:26] oh? [06:26] there is no such thing as set and forget [06:26] nope you are right [06:27] everything you do, you must manage it well [06:27] ya but not easy to spend every night watching [06:27] http://beetlesinthebush.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/img_4069_lvl_1200x800_usm.jpg [06:27] one gets kinda sleepy [06:28] god thats a nice photo [06:28] cant wait to get that lens and play [06:30] Symmetria, do you still work? [06:30] 8ta needs help [06:31] Kilos haha if 8ta wants to approach me and offer me insane money I'd think about it ;p [06:31] I'd do work for 8ta but it would cost them 9600 USD a week ;p [06:31] whew [06:32] What lens is that Symmetria? [06:33] hawkies a canon MP-65E [06:33] its a very very unique lens, canon is the only one that makes anything like it [06:33] 65mm Macro? [06:33] its a 65mm f/2.8 macro lens. except unlike most macro lenses which do a 1:1, this does a 5x magnification [06:33] Good grief [06:33] yeah, except its unique because its got a 5x magnification [06:34] I ordered one that I got at an insanely good price, its arriving today or tomorrow [06:34] Nice [06:35] picked up that lens for 5 grand at a 50% discount [06:35] I'm still enjoying my 24-70mm f/2.8 :D [06:35] bought it because its the one lens that will make my camera gear very unique, very very few people have that lens [06:35] HawkiesZA I bought a 70-200 f/2.8 the other day [06:35] made by Tamron [06:35] fantastic lens [06:35] Sigma for me [06:35] The Nikkor lens is just way too expensive [06:36] good morning all [06:36] http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/peacock3.jpg [06:36] And the sigma was cheap 2nd hand at orms [06:36] check that out hawkies [06:36] and keep in mind, that shot was taken at a 1600 ISO level [06:36] With a Canon? [06:36] HawkiesZA I would *seriously* suggest you look at tamron lenses, they tend to be at same price as the sigma's but they are far better lenses [06:37] hi magespawn [06:38] I checked out the Tamron version before settling on Sigma for the 24-70mm. The Sigma got good reviews in general. It's obviously not as good as the Nikkor, but it's good enough for the hobbyist without breaking my bank account. [06:38] hey Kilos [06:39] I appreciate the value of some good review ;) [06:39] i see we are #ubuntu-za-photography this morning [06:39] Woooooo! [06:39] hehe [06:40] If we want to bring it back to Ubuntu, we can talk about the editing software we use if you like :P [06:41] HawkiesZA: the sad part is that Symmetria is not even running ubuntu [06:41] Blasphemy! [06:41] :D [06:41] :-) [06:41] heh HawkiesZA the reason Im not running ubuntu is because the photo editing stuff just isnt available for it [06:41] nah is all good [06:42] gimp no good? [06:42] the lack of things like lightroom and photoshop for linux is problematic to say the least [06:42] kilos gimp can't touch photoshop CS6, and there is nothing like lightroom available [06:43] then really show how clever you are and write something [06:43] the idea is to get ubuntu ahead [06:43] Symmetria, you can use Aftershot Pro for Raw [06:43] That's what I use because the Open Source stuff just didn't cut it :/ [06:44] And then GIMP for the final touch-ups [06:44] kilos the solution is to really get adobe to release linux versions [06:44] tune them [06:44] the fact is, adobe is still the defacto go to point for image and video editing [06:44] Sure, but there are other options [06:44] Cheaper options too, with CC now [06:44] its the same with video software, stuff like after effects and premiere are soooooo far ahead of the pack (even in the windows world) [06:44] ask them or beg them [06:45] I aint paying for Photoshop :P [06:45] HawkiesZA you seen that adobe have scrapped perpetual licensing for PS? [06:45] I'll agree with Premiere [06:45] actually ALL of their products [06:45] Man Premiere is good. Nothing comes close. [06:45] they have gone to a cloud based license model, and the pricing is actually pretty damn good [06:45] Yep. CS is dead, long live CC [06:45] you can license individual products at $20 a month, or their ENTIRE suite for $50 a month [06:46] (I do the latter, that way I get premier pro, after effects, photoshop, lightroom and everything else for $50 a month) [06:47] That's a lot of money for a hobby [06:47] Too much for me [06:47] And that actually works out cheaper than before which says a lot [06:47] Rip off in favour or making more money. They'll also never will release for Linux. They're perpetually making BAD business decisions. It's only because they're currently the go-to product that they even survive. [06:47] heh, I use it as a tax writeoff since Im a contractor [06:47] claim Im using it to create business adverts and shit ;p [06:48] heh trixar they also survive because they hold patents on half the damn stuff [06:48] patents must DIE!!! [06:49] HawkiesZA have you ever used lightroom? [06:49] That too. I still don't think we should allow ideas and abstract concepts to be patented. Actual design process used for creating physical products and actual machines yes, but not ideas and mathematical formulas. [06:50] Symmetria, used it briefly on trial [06:51] I'll agree that it's good, but it's not good enough to lock me into a bad OS :P [06:53] HawkiesZA heh, the thing is, windows prior to windows 7 really sucked, windows 8 is a steaming pile of shit [06:53] but windows 7 itself, it hasnt given me any issues [06:53] though again, most of my adobe work is actually done on mac [06:54] and os-x is basically freebsd with a very nice front-end [06:56] man, Im struggling with the questions in this assignment for my photography course [06:59] anybody used Darktable? [07:00] magespawn, yeah, but I didn't like the bouncy workflow [07:00] is this a picture of someones mother-in-law Symmetria? http://beetlesinthebush.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/img_4069_lvl_1200x800_usm.jpg === Elie is now known as Guest48381 [07:01] hi Guest48381 [07:01] Hi [07:01] welcome to ubuntu-za [07:02] Thanks. [07:02] HawkiesZA: it seems to get very mixed reviews [07:03] magespawn lol its an incredible picture [07:03] just restarting xchat [07:03] https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Lnc1OA3Ez9Y/UWxNhY_nTrI/AAAAAAAAN4I/TMUWpePlBbQ/w975-h672-no/DKP_9319.jpg [07:03] that was also taken with that MP-E lens [07:03] its a snowflake ;p [07:04] for those into wildlife photography try outdoorphoto.co.za the forums are active and helpful [07:05] magespawn you saw my peacock and monkey photos right? [07:06] don't think so, just the male peacock [07:06] Guest48381, do you need any help with linux/ubuntu [07:06] this is the ubuntu linux help channel [07:06] (be warned, these photos are *large*) [07:06] http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/monkey3.jpg [07:06] Um, no. Is this a help room? [07:06] http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/monkey1.jpg [07:06] with the odd photography and farming chats [07:06] Oh, thanks Kilos. [07:06] yw [07:07] guest heh, its a help room but occasionally when no one is talking about ubuntu or asking for help we talk about other crap as well :) [07:07] to keep life in the room! :) [07:07] hi Vince-0 [07:07] Is unity any good? [07:07] heh magespawn that monkey eating the french fry, I gave it the french fry [07:07] its quite incredible though, you zoom in and you can see its little thumbnail [07:08] Guest48381, yip with some getting used to [07:08] also kubuntu is good [07:08] hi psyatw [07:08] hi Kilos [07:08] also xubuntu and some of the other flavours arent bad [07:08] I tried Ubuntu Gnome, software center wasn't very good. So I went back to Fedora. [07:09] http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/cameraman_got_owned.jpg <=== that makes me laugh [07:09] Kilos: Is it any good with a touchscreen ultrabook? [07:09] do you know ubuntu as when it was still gnome2 Guest48381 ? [07:09] Kilos: yes. [07:10] Hi Kilos at al [07:10] ok then to stay similar you can install mate on ubuntu [07:10] mate is very similar to gnome2 [07:10] fork of gnome2 [07:12] I prefer gnome-shell, Kilos. But thanks. [07:12] I wanted to try Ubuntu with Unity, but I heard it has Amazon spyware features. [07:12] Guest48381: those can be removed [07:13] Opt out? It should be opt in [07:13] Shuttleworth is killing gnu/linux [07:13] not so much "spyware" as real time commercial adverts from Amazon based on search queries, local and internet [07:13] agreed is should be opt in [07:13] s/is/it [07:16] Thanks Kilos, magespawn. Bye. [07:16] also you can install 12.04 LTS Guest48381 no amazon to worry there and still years of support [07:16] visit again Guest48381 [07:16] Will do. [07:16] Guest48381: come by again sometime [07:16] How many rooms/channels are on this chat? [07:16] visit full time too if you like [07:17] hahahha [07:17] I just might. [07:17] we live here [07:17] hehe [07:17] hehe [07:17] we also have an afrikaans channel [07:17] Symmetria: spray something like amonia on/around the camera to stop lions doing that [07:17] aw [07:17] expensive snack [07:18] yay at least her wasnt a chatmosphere okey [07:19] he [07:19] hrm, this is kinda neat, adobe doesnt whine when I install the cloud suite on my desktop and my mac notebook [07:23] one of the benefits of a cloud licence [07:24] needed the thing installed on my macbook for tethered shooting [07:24] certain things arent practical to shoot non-tethered === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [08:02] hi Vince-0 morgs [08:03] hi Kilos [08:04] inetpro, see , 37 nicks === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [08:16] not all active Kilos [08:16] no matter\ [08:17] only 4 sleeping [08:17] just means you cannot retire, they have to all be active [08:18] maybe i must stir the pot on the tweet place [08:18] lol nice try [08:18] besides is you leave then it is onlu 36 [08:18] s/onlu/only [08:19] nice to see wizzy here again after so long. hi wizzy [08:19] always good to have people coming back [08:19] hmm... [08:33] hi Kilos, magespawn, morgs [08:33] morning superfly [08:33] hi hi [08:36] hey superfly [08:57] hi Tinuva [08:58] 38 === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [08:59] belated morning all [08:59] ohi ThatGraemeGuy [08:59] mine only says 37 Kilos, Maaz and Chanserv can't be counted [08:59] howdy ThatGraemeGuy [09:00] hi ThatGraemeGuy [09:00] sigh [09:00] no rest for the wicked Kilos [09:00] i spose ubuntulog either [09:00] of course not, only peeps [09:00] lol [09:01] hmm... [09:03] o/ aloha [09:03] hi nuvolari [09:03] lo nuvolari jy is maar skaars ne [09:03] hoe gaan dit seun? [09:03] hi magespawn, oom Kilos, superfly, ThatGraemeGuy [09:04] aan die gang dankie oom [09:04] hoe gaan dit met oom? [09:04] goed dankie [09:04] net koud [09:06] hi nuvolari [09:07] 'lo :) [09:11] nuvolari: you still want to know about the phone or you sorted? [09:17] hmm... making like he is working [09:20] I have the memory of a goldfish these days [09:20] lol [09:20] rofl [09:21] http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/472526_10151553837300528_1457037818_o.jpg [09:21] the hdd sharing on the list is attracting some attention [09:21] hahaha I finally got a photo of my dog [09:21] she's petrified of cameras so since she was lying asleep infront of my tripod [09:21] and I didnt have to touch anything to get the shot [09:42] hola! [09:50] ai [09:50] cooking and being the greeter bot is hard work [09:51] hi bomberman [09:51] welcome to ubuntu-za [09:51] Hi Kilos! Its me Steven :P [09:51] lol hi there welcome back [09:52] you well bomberman ? [09:53] yes man. forgot my other username. haha [09:53] sflr [09:54] we actually wondered where you were 2 nights ago [09:54] but the tweet place got you [09:54] hehe [09:55] yeah, that one. I stick with bomberman then :) [09:56] haha. nice to see you again [09:56] here that is [09:56] i only turn on tweet place now and again [09:57] cool man! yeah, I got you on Twitter :) [10:23] hello people [10:23] hi Squirm [10:24] hi Squirm [10:24] hi bomberman [10:34] i wish seagate diskwizard had verbose googie in [10:34] goodie [10:34] i like to see whats happening [12:16] Maaz, coffee on [12:16] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [12:17] inetpro, coffee time [12:19] Maaz coffee please [12:19] magespawn: Okay [12:19] wb magespawn [12:19] hey Kilos [12:19] just in time for coffee [12:19] why you show as away? [12:20] i was away [12:20] just walked back into the sho[ [12:20] shop [12:20] ah its going again [12:20] we hit 39 earlier [12:20] hehe [12:20] Coffee's ready for Kilos and magespawn! [12:21] Maaz, ty [12:21] You are welcome Kilos [12:21] Maaz botsnack [12:21] thanks, magespawn [12:21] hehe [12:40] tumbleweed: hey, i've been trying to get hold of you, you there? [12:49] he's usually around, but might not be at his desk right now [12:56] hi gwood [12:56] magespawn, 40 [12:56] pretty cool [12:58] hello magespawn [12:58] hi gwood [12:58] hey psyatw [12:59] only 5 under our record and that was at a meeting when drubin_ was still here [13:04] ok, thanks superfly [13:04] hi everyone [13:08] hey gwood [13:08] going away agian Kilos [13:08] ok go safe [13:09] hi superfly [13:09] fly safely with superfly airways [13:14] hehe [13:37] gwood: hi [13:56] tumbleweed: hey, was just wondering if you still want me to set you up as an organizer for: http://www.meetup.com/The-Cape-Town-GNU-Linux-Meetup-Group/ [13:56] tumbleweed: hey, was just wondering if you still want me to set you up as an organizer for: http://www.meetup.com/The-Cape-Town-GNU-Linux-Meetup-Group/ [13:56] tumbleweed: hey, was just wondering if you still want me to set you up as an organizer for: http://www.meetup.com/The-Cape-Town-GNU-Linux-Meetup-Group/ [13:56] o_O [13:56] tumbleweed: so that CLUG events can show up there [13:57] i've setup that meetup, but i've gotten really busy lately, work, moving, etc. So seems a waste to not use that meetup [14:04] gwood: thanks, yes please [14:05] can we give access to the rest of the CLUG committee? [14:05] hehe looks like a seroius stutter [14:06] serious [14:07] tumbleweed: sure, we can do that [14:27] http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/901030_10151554166635528_292736664_o.jpg [14:27] heh the power of a 500mm zoom lens [15:25] (.)(.) [15:26] take some chik pix Symmetria [15:38] hi [15:38] Kilos, hi [15:38] hi acherv [15:38] How are you today? [15:39] cold but good ty and you? [15:39] very cold here in the tvl [15:39] where are you? [15:42] sorry [15:43] np [15:43] i meant where do you stay? [15:43] hehe [15:43] joburg [15:43] and you? [15:43] eeek as cold as here [15:44] west of pretoria [15:44] same minimums as jhb normally [15:44] very cold [15:45] yeah and when you get older your internal combustion goodie dont work as well [16:02] . === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [16:27] Cantide, hi [16:28] hello :) [16:29] hi Cantide [16:29] hey Kilos :) === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [17:23] whootwhoot [17:23] nuvolari: ping [17:32] lo smile4ever [17:32] you sound happy Vince-0 [17:32] yar I'm awake at least [17:33] starting a dbnlug hangout in a bit and the turn out looks good [17:33] ah great [17:33] when are more of them gonna join us here? [17:33] buncha slackers [17:34] kbmonkey, nuvolari and SmilyBorg are regulars [17:34] and they're the ones attending the hangout [17:34] the monkey and nuvolari been here long time [17:35] they are our peeps on loan to you [17:35] ha! [17:35] hehe [17:35] there's 6 going, 4 maybes and 17 others not responded to the hangout invite [17:35] acherv, tomorrow fone 183 onna 8ta fone and complain about your connection [17:37] or if you lucky 187 goes straight to the data peeps [17:38] thx [17:39] np [17:39] you just gotta keep revving them [17:39] or soon we can start tweeting their CEO as well [17:42] hi Kilos :) [17:44] Evelien sê ek moet Afrikaans me julle praat [17:44] :p [17:44] Waar is die Afrikaners? [17:44] lol [17:44] hulle is op #ubuntu-afr [17:44] maar rus nog [17:45] Kilos: altyd [17:45] hulle het baie tyd [17:45] ;) [17:45] nee man hulle werk [17:45] is jy seker? :p [17:45] of eet nou [17:46] baie lekker ;) [17:46] hulle word maar min daar sien ek [17:49] ohi kbmonkey wb [17:49] greets [17:49]