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Unit193For audio/video conference, is linphone another option?07:26
skellatUnit193: linphone falls into the same class of apps as ekiga & sflphone but yes it would11:41
skellatUnit193: Easy way to test your Linphone install...call the sip number list in the topic over at #ubuntu-us-oh...it has voicemail attached to it!11:56
elfyam I right in assuming a logout/shutdown bug should be reported against lightdm18:06
skellatYeah but tag the window manager too18:08
elfypackage name ?18:08
elfyand how do you tag a bug report?18:09
skellatPackage name would be xfwm4.  Just add it to the same report as being affected.18:09
elfyk18:09
skellatThat comes after filing against lightdm, of course.18:10
elfyI would try searching launchapd for information but I don't have a week 18:10
skellat:-)18:11
skellathttps://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+filebug18:12
elfydoing this quickly in vbox for the moment to see if it's there - I have the issue in the hdd one 18:12
elfyskellat: I'll do it from the install with ubuntu-bug18:13
skellatExcellent18:14
elfyyea I know lol 18:14
elfythat's assuming I see the same thing :)18:16
skellatI threw an e-mail on the list about where we got scheduled on summit.ubuntu.com18:20
skellatAnd now I need to run to the post office and a couple other places in-town18:20
elfyyea - just read that one 18:22
elfyexcellent - it failed - or rather at least I can report it 18:25
elfywell I almost got it - marked it as affecting LightDm as well lol18:39
elfywb lderan 18:41
lderanthank you18:41
elfywaiting for a meeting so we can get whatever we want to call this manager thing sorted out 18:42
lderanah cool18:44
elfynot sure when we've got the first one - find out next week perhaps18:44
lderansounds good to me18:47
skellatAlrighty, anybody have objections to the scheduling we've been given for UDS?  Do we want to go with the Three Nights option instead?20:42
knomei just sent an email20:43
Noskcajskellat, no objection, but i cannot make it20:43
knometl;dr: three nights would be better, or even two20:43
knomealso, both times are ok for me20:44
knomefurthermore, micahg can't attend vUDS days at all; let's schedule something for week 21 as well20:44
lderani can attend after 1830 utc20:44
Unit193But, would we want one of the vUDS "moderators" to attend?  (Bacon, etc.)  Would they be willing to go outside of vUDS?20:45
skellatUnit193: We don't really need to them to attend unless they wish to do so on their own.  We may not necessarily use the summit.ubuntu.com platform either.20:46
skellatknome: I agree that packing it all into that block on Wednesday is a bit much.20:46
Unit193skellat: Was just a thought, what's-his-name did last time so we could talk with him.20:46
skellatRick Spencer?20:47
knomeoh.20:47
knomei think we should simply join the vUDS sessions to see what they have to say20:47
knomei don't think there is enough to warrant a xubuntu session where we definitely need rick20:47
skellatThe vUDS sessions will be one thing.  Our stuff is going to be more internal to Xubuntu than anything else.20:47
knomeand he won't disappear after vUDS anyway20:47
skellatAnd looking at the schedule so far, Ubuntu Touch is dominating the schedule thus far20:48
knomeisn't ubuntu touch just the same as ubuntu, so basically it's just the same but with "touch" added to every title ;)20:49
skellatNot really20:49
skellatIt is the phone stuff...which means no X server for now until Mir gets built20:49
skellatTuesday's schedule: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/2013-05-14/display  Wednesday's schedule: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/2013-05-15/display Thursday's schedule: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/2013-05-16/display20:50
skellatThe overall schedule looks heavily skewed towards mobile20:53
skellatI guess we'd need to add that for the forward-looking issues discussion: What on earth would Xubuntu look like in a "mobile phone/tablet/phablet" setting?20:55
knomei was just kidding :)20:56
skellat:-)20:56
knome(and cleaning up the kitchen, that's why it took so long to reply)20:57
Unit193Hmmm, anyone setup a wiki with what our options are for communication?20:57
skellatNot yet20:57
knomeUnit193, i can set up the page if you'll fill it up?20:57
skellatI need to get in the kitchen to get cooking dinner and then I have a board meeting tonight for an arts non-profit I'm somehow connected to as a PR person20:58
Unit193Hah, I don't think I even remember all the options. :P20:58
skellatWe can ask the Kubuntu folks about using their Mumble server20:58
knomeUnit193, you can start20:58
skellatWe can set up our own Google Hangout20:58
Unit193SIP/linphone shouldn't be hard either.20:58
skellatWe can use a SIP conference room via Linphone/Ekiga/Sflphone such as the one on sdf.org20:58
knomeor skype.20:58
knome:P20:58
skellatSkype is usable too20:58
knomeif anybody had the pro account, we could do the AV-conference on skype20:59
knomei don't think it's too pricey, i could probably do that for this time with our magazine moolah20:59
Unit193knome: Or if someone has Linux.20:59
skellatAnd now my cat is chewing on me...so I gotta go for now20:59
knomei mean, the stuff i got from writing20:59
* skellat trundles off to start cooking done20:59
knomeskellat, bon appetit!20:59
* skellat trundles off to start cooking dinner after feeding the hungry cat who keeps biting20:59
knomeUnit193, do you know anybody who has linux then?20:59
lderani hear all the cool kids have it21:00
Unit193knome: Don't think so.21:00
Noskcajhas the magazine actually been published yet? and i still don't know what magazine it was21:02
Unit193knome: Skype seems to permit up to 25 people?21:04
knomeUnit193, problem?21:05
knomeNoskcaj, no.21:05
Unit193knome: Info.21:05
knomeNoskcaj, it's been on the list. http://www.linuxidentity.com/21:05
knomewe still need to extend some articles, so not published yet21:05
knomeUnit193, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Saucy/UDSCommunicationOptions21:17
knomebrb21:20
Unit193Alrighty.21:20
skellatUnit193: Could you do a quick check for me by calling 1001@sip.sdf.org in Linphone?21:48
skellatIf you connect it should greet you and give you the UTC time followed by some Morse Code21:49
Unit193I think last SIP account I had was gizmo5...21:50
skellatIt may work with a direct IP call21:53
skellatMy SIP account is on SDF21:53
skellatThe one listed in the topic over on the LoCo channel21:54
skellatI know the conference room feature works over on SDF so we could easily use that with minimal set up if everybody had SIP access21:54
knomei don't, but i imagine it's not too hard to set up?21:55
skellatThe SDF public phone directory is here (my account isn't special enough to be listed): http://sdf.org/?tutorials/sdf_voip_ext21:55
skellatFind SIP provider, set up Ekiga/Linphone/SFLPhone, call the conference room on the directory list linked above21:56
knomeah.. involves service providers21:56
skellatThere is direct IP calling though21:56
skellatAnd heck, Skype is itself a service provider which is a subsidiary of Microsoft21:57
knomethat sounds more tedious to set up than it's worth :)21:57
knomeheh, ok21:57
skellatMy account over on Skype is easy to find: stephen.michael.kellat21:57
knomei think i'm knomepasi21:57
knomeit's ages since i last connected...21:57
knomeactually not, i did once in the last year at least21:57
Unit193I'm not figuring this out.21:58
skellatUnit193: What are you not figuring out?21:58
Unit193User not found.22:00
skellatWhere?22:00
knomeUnit193, look in the mirror22:00
Unit193knome: Don't want to do that, image is scary!22:00
knomeUnit193, or, alternatively, if you have a webcam, turn that on and look at a capturing app22:00
knome(lazy nerd version)22:01
skellatMy SDF account is set for direct IP call receipt so you don't need to actually have a SIP account anywhere to leave me a voicemail.  Just skip setting an account up in Ekiga and "dial" 1580@sip.sdf.org.  I just can't recall if the Conference Bridge will allow that, though.22:02
Unit193Ah, that works.  You had said 1001.22:04
Unit193knome: I have a friend with asterisk, not sure if he'd let us use it, but he might.22:04
skellatOkay, so you got my lovely voicemail greeting then?22:06
Unit193Aye.22:06
skellatOkay22:06
skellatTry 1088@sip.sdf.org and see if it will let you in22:06
skellatIf it greets you, then you'll be able to get into the conference bridge without needing a SIP account somewheres22:08
Noskcaji clicked on that and it said i needed a mail reader22:08
skellatNoskcaj: SIP notation looks a lot like e-mail address notation22:09
Unit193skellat: Nope.22:09
skellatDarn22:09
skellatOkay22:09
skellatUnless a lot of folks have easy access to SIP accounts, scratch that conference room idea22:09
skellatI'm available on Skype and knome is available on Skype22:10
skellatWhat works for Noskcaj?22:10
Noskcaji've got skype and G+ already, i can use anything that's free22:10
skellatThat's 3 for Skype.  How about you Unit193?22:11
Noskcajalthough i doubt i'll be attending the meetings22:11
Unit193Of course.22:11
skellatNoskcaj: At this point we're looking at shifting to the post-2000 UTC option.22:11
Noskcajyay22:11
skellatTo do a conference call one person has to initiate by calling everybody else22:12
skellatSo, we'd need to establish calling lists of user names of who would like to participate22:12
skellatAnd now that I've got what I was baking out of the oven and Dad should be home I gotta go serve dinner.  My board meeting is 7 PM time where I get to be PR flack again.22:19
skellatUnit193: Good luck on options.  For us to play nice and all we need to settle an option soon and then probably have XPL tell the track leads for vUDS that we regretfully need to pull our blueprints off the schedule to better accommodate team member schedules in Australasian time zones.22:21
knome:)22:25
* knome just added 'XPL' to hilight on #xubuntu*22:26
Unit193Thanks, now I know another blacklisted word to use. :)22:28
knomenah22:31
knomeit's not at all bad if i get highlighter22:31
knomes/r/d/22:31
knomei read all the backlog from -devel anyway, just makes it easier me to catch things that are related to me22:31
skellatWhat can I say?22:43
* skellat time to go to board meeting for arts non-profit22:44
knomehave fun22:49

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