[01:14] hi there [01:14] Anyone here? [01:15] Can I ask you a tech question? [01:16] uh oh [01:16] hey, i just lost all other accounts on my machine, what could possibly have happened ? [01:16] I don't know [01:16] i mean , ... they all show up on the greeeter but the other desktop enviornments [01:16] actually, none of the desktops enviornments show up [01:17] just myaccount but I was logged in last [01:17] Which version of Kubuntu are you using? [01:17] i think the update ,killed all my other desktop envionments [01:18] I actualy installed this from ubuntu 12.10 and did a dist upgrade [01:18] is it cat /etc/distinfo [01:18] I need help too [01:19] discribe your isssue Genyar [01:19] ok, I would like to upgrade my Adobe Flash [01:20] from 11.2.202.243 to 11.2.202.280 [01:20] how do I do that? [01:21] I want to upgrade to version 11.2.202.280 of Adobe Flash [01:22] How did you install it? You should have installed flashplugin-installer or adobe-flashplugin from partner [01:22] here's my os-release btw, NAME="Ubuntu" [01:22] VERSION="13.04, Raring Ringtail" [01:22] ID=ubuntu [01:22] ID_LIKE=debian [01:22] PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 13.04" [01:22] VERSION_ID="13.04" [01:22] dacresni: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:23] ok, so how should I upgrade my Adobe Flash plugin? [01:24] Install flashplugin-installer [01:24] !info flashplugin-installer [01:24] flashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.2.202.280ubuntu0.12.10.1 (raring), package size 6 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386; amd64) [01:24] will this thing tell me when my flood is up ? [01:25] I think I already installed the Flash Plugin installer [01:25] I saw it on my Adept installer [01:25] I'm using Kubuntu 11.04 [01:26] the Natty Narwal release [01:27] Natty is EOL. time to upgrade [01:27] if I upgrade to a new release, will that automatically upgrade my Adobe Flash version? [01:27] sure, current flash player on 13.04 is .280 [01:28] I should upgrade to Kubuntu 13.04? [01:28] 12.04 LTS or 13.04 [01:29] But they got so many cool YouTube videos for 11.04 now [01:29] When it first came out, there were no YouTube tutorials for Natty Narwal release [01:29] All currently supported *buntu versions have the latest flash player version (11.2.202.280) [01:30] Now there are so many, and good ones for 11.04 [01:31] Just when I'm getting used to 11.04, now I have to upgrade, shit [01:31] 11.04 is no longer supported. You may want to upgrade to 12.04 for the latest LTS release. === pb is now known as paul_be [01:32] do they have Youtube Tutorials for 12.04? [01:32] What is the name of the 12.04 release? [01:33] does it have less bugs than 13.04? [01:33] Precise Pangoline [01:33] Pangolin* And it's a LTS release, meaning it's supported much longer than non-LTS versions like 12.10 or 13.04 [01:33] which is the most secure and reliable version to upgrade to? [01:33] LTS? [01:34] Generally if you want the most stability, the longest support, and the least frequent OS upgrades, you go with the LTS versions. [01:34] Long-Term Service [01:34] Support, thjat is [01:35] Aha, so Kubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangoline is what I shoud upgrade to? [01:35] It sounds like you're the type who doesn't want to upgrade your OS every 6 months, so if that's the case, then yes. [01:36] you got it right [01:36] 12.04 was released in April 2012, and has a full 5 years of support, whereas releases starting with 13.04 will only get 9 months of support. [01:37] Good, how do I upgrade now? [01:37] And LTS versions are released every 2 years. So the next LTS will be released in April 2014 (version 14.04) [01:39] Honestly, I always recommend backing up your files and installing fresh. It's the best way to ensure a smooth upgrade. You can download 12.04 from kubuntu.org, burn it to a CD, and install [01:39] mmm, ok [01:39] Then you won't have to worry about upgrading for 5 years, if you so choose, or for one more year if you decide to go with 14.04 LTS when it comes out. [01:40] Actually, I should have said 4 years, since 12.04 has already been out for a year. [01:40] yeah, well, that's good enough for me [01:41] How should I backup my files? [01:41] I guess I could copy everything onto an external drive [01:42] The nice thing about Linux is that all your personal files, like music, documents, emails, pictures, etc. are going to be contained within your home folder. So you can simply copy your /home/ folder to an external hard drive [01:42] I've already backed up the most important files onto a huge external drive [01:42] Wow, yeah [01:42] yeah, if I do that, I wil have two backups [01:43] But I've never installed an entire operating system on my own [01:43] Are you dual booting? === gilbert_ is now known as transformerbot [01:44] Or is Kubuntu 11.04 your only OS right now? [01:44] I got another computer running on windows XP [01:44] But it's not connected [01:44] But the computer you're going to be installing 12.04 on will only be running Kubuntu? [01:45] yes [01:45] All you need to do then is burn the Kubuntu 12.04 ISO to a CD, boot off the CD, and tell the installer to use your entire hard drive [01:45] It will handle the rest for you [01:46] it's that easy? [01:46] Yep. You can look up installation instructions too if you want, so you can get some screenshots/videos of the entire process. [01:46] It's pretty easy. [01:46] Oh yeah, you mean a YouTube tutorial? [01:47] Yeah [01:47] Like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Oz4IVspteU [01:51] thanks [01:53] No problem. I have to head out for a bit, but if you have any further questions I'm sure somebody else can pick up from here. [02:16] Im banned from ubuntu? What gives? [02:17] stupid channel... [02:18] im jewish .. and they did not like it.. [02:18] fucking plo. hamas and hizbolla! [02:20] Btw: its rather intressting that Yassir Arafat died of an "unknowned" desceese.... called Aids. [02:21] Sorry. This is not a channel for political stuff.. again sorry! [02:22] Do you have an off-topic channel? If i might ask? [02:35] Hi. I just installed Kubuntu 13.04 on a new laptop, and had it install proprietary drivers for my video card. When I went to jockey however, I saw that the driver was not listed as being installed, however. So, I installed one, and now don't have direct rendering. [02:35] Video card is an nVidia GeForce 650M. [02:38] I keep tryign to change a users .dmrc and it keeps changing back === morpheus is now known as Guest53026 === akshay_ is now known as akshay_r === phoenix is now known as Guest66989 === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler [06:34] just upgraded to 13.04 === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [06:34] and I'm missing my Menu launcher thing [06:35] any tips? [06:35] not even sure how to launch a menu from the command-line [06:37] well I'll try a quick reboot at least... === Ubuntu is now known as Guest91063 [06:52] Greets, everyone. Anybody know if KDE SC 4.10.3 will be getting backported to Quantal? === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw === phoenix is now known as Guest99186 === akshay__ is now known as akshay_r [07:50] Good morning. [08:40] where do I place custom "new file" templates for Dolphin? === erry_ is now known as erry === erry_ is now known as erry [09:01] opps hi everybody! :-) What channel is this? [09:01] kubuntu oki! [09:02] like a drunken ... well hello! :-) [09:03] i cant sound like charles bukowski when im sober... [09:03] mernilio, please stop that === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [09:04] sure i stop.. whats the beef? [09:04] this is support only, NOT chat mernilio [09:04] !ot | mernilio [09:04] mernilio: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [09:04] oki, i got the message [09:05] Thanks, but nothanks! [09:06] hmmm, I have strange problems with autofs.... can't get it to mount anything while normal mount -t cifs .... works just fine === erry_ is now known as erry === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === turgay__ is now known as turgay === paolo_ is now known as faLUCE === christian is now known as Saturas077 === christian is now known as Saturas077 === christian is now known as Guest98572 [11:26] yay 13.04 is prett good so far aside from firefox [11:53] hello world :D [11:54] I'm back from the hollydays [11:54] ovidiu-florin, your first program? ;) [11:54] will kde 4.11 be backported to kubuntu 12.04? if so, how soon after release? [11:54] Graf_Westerholt: no, my usual greeting :D [11:55] ovidiu-florin, so you are the first program everybody write. [11:56] :D [11:56] :D [11:58] question: is it wise to set the owner to the public_html folder and all subfiles/folders to www-data? === palasso_ is now known as palasso [12:35] Hey all [12:36] BluesKaj_ [12:36] hi Graf_Westerholt [12:36] anyone else having issues with firefox on 13.04 [12:36] any freezes ? [12:36] Graf_Westerholt^ [12:37] robotdevil_, what kind of issues ? [12:37] freezes [12:37] Not yet. And the graphiccard is perfect in the slot. [12:37] fresh install [12:38] have to keep terminating it [12:40] and rekonq open on wrong screen [12:41] yeah robotdevil_ , it was freezing here too , but I was experimenting with Opera already, because FF was slow, and it's become my default now [12:41] opera is default [12:42] rekonq doesn't work with my banking site , no matter what browser type setting I use [12:46] Opera is the best browser. [12:47] Graf_Westerholt, so far I like it a lot , very configurable === simion314_ is now known as simion314 [12:47] BluesKaj_, it is also best with HTML. [12:48] BluesKaj_, Opera was the first with tabs. [12:48] yes [12:48] I use Opera since a long time. :) [12:48] * BluesKaj_ nods [12:52] BluesKaj_: ok [12:52] I dont really like opera, might check it out again [12:53] repos? [12:54] or site? [12:56] opera's great but it needs to learn how to use the native style |: [13:03] Artakha: I remember it always looked like it was from gnome 1 [13:03] eh it's not horrible these days [13:04] or firefox could just get reworked already.... [13:05] * robotdevil_ hopes samsung really helps ff [13:07] nowadays FF is slow and ponderous and freezes for no reason , not going bother trying help fix it , needs another revamping for linux ..getting bloated again [13:07] help fix by filing bugs [13:08] it's funny how the scene of such a crucial application as web browsers happens to be one of the bigger messes [13:08] I heard it's the javascript that's causing the problems [13:09] though i guess it makes sense because of the popularity each browser maker went their own ways [13:09] the standards should've been established earlier and enforced better [13:09] stuff like css would've been avoided [13:09] rekonq is less hopeless ,but still needs alot of work [13:09] opera's nice but unpolished [13:10] they should just use qt :P [13:11] pretty plain eye candy, but it's smooth and relatively fast and doesn't freeze [13:13] yeah rekonq looks nice [13:13] I mean Opera [13:13] well yeah. opera is the best of the bunch imo [13:15] http://www.webmonkey.com/2013/04/mozillas-servo/ [13:16] google is just too big [13:17] like the non-profit idea better [13:17] i don't trust google [13:17] "Eich calls Rust “safe by default” and says that Rust will stop “entire classes of memory management errors”, helping to eliminate a common cause of not just security flaws, but browser crashes." [13:17] interesting [13:18] its hard to notice rendering time is os is on a ssd [13:18] chromium tab fonts are unreadable and unconfigurable on a large screen , so I can't use it [13:19] isnt the chromium settings special? [13:21] never saw anything like that before, well except for some gnome programs [13:22] robotdevil_, chromium follows the gtk /mozilla settings in kde for fonts etc , but parts of chromium's fonts are hard coded like the tabs [13:23] I meant the settings, but I know what you mean [13:24] I think this is one of the bussiest ive ever saw this channel lol [13:25] busiest* [13:27] i'd say there should be a new web standard that would define a strong web page, styling and scripting standard if i didn't know better === hp_ is now known as Guest77703 [13:33] Krusader tells me when entering in an archive that "krarc is disabled". Please help! [13:45] What kind of hardware is Kubuntu most suitable for and what's the definition of "old" hardware now-a-days? [13:45] My specs: (CPU: Intel Pentium 4 630 Prescott 3.0GHz, RAM: 3.5 GB DDR2 @ 533 MHz, GPU: Nvidia GT 610, SATA II HDD) === christian is now known as Guest36868 [14:00] bambam1: that hardware should work ok, most suitable is any after than system, I used on average of 2.2 - 5 gigs of ram, but ku runs on a netbook well, well most netbooks [14:02] try and see, I would say that is old hardware, anything under a core duo is dated [14:03] imho [14:05] I can't get mp3 playback to work on chromium. I installed chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extras, and it still does not work [14:06] it works now [14:06] :D [14:06] yeeey [14:07] bambam, your specs indicate kubuntu will run fine , not the fastest but reasonable just the same . [14:08] BluesKaj_: What parts of KDE are CPU intensive? [14:09] bambam, mostly the browser plugins and sometimes Xorg , but since you have a nvidia graphics , that will help a lot [14:09] nepomuk tends to eat cpu [14:09] tho that can be disabled [14:10] Artakha: I noticed that [14:10] bambam, yes as Artakha indicates , nepomuk and akonadi server can be a load , which can be turned off if you don't use file indexiing and kmail/PIM [14:11] i don't have a problem with akonadi [14:11] most home users don't need kmail and it's associated database akonadi server [14:13] Artakha, , some users like me can't use kmail , segfaults after about 3 days od use , then toatlly breaks [14:14] it works fine for me [14:14] I use thunderbird and now that I use opera , it's email client seems usable [14:15] " it works fine for me" [14:15] I always wonder how things work fine for some, and completely breaks for other users [14:16] I tried Linux Mint Cinnamon and it wasn't very stable, Ubuntu 13.04 was quite stable [14:16] A friend of mine said the complete opposite [14:16] well when it comes to computing there's a ton of variables, hardware specs, set of features used, workflow habits, configuration [14:16] Artakha, nice for you but not for me , and kmail used to be a great email client back in the kde3 days , but since they tried to make it into anoffics style email server , it's not much use here [14:16] so it's not really surprising === robotdevil_ is now known as robotdevil [14:36] why is kubuntu crashing? [14:36] I reinstalled, and it is crashing again === jason_ is now known as happycanid [14:48] hi, I'm using recordmydesktop. The problem is: when I play the captured video, in the middle of playback the sound goes away! VLC exits with some weird error and other players like mplayer continue with no sound. Recordmydesktop reports no errors during capture. Any idea to trace this annoying problem?! :( [14:50] hanibana, perhaps it's the powersaving mode kicking in [14:50] or screensaver [14:51] but, I'm moving mouse around during the capture... [14:51] during playback [14:51] that kinda sounds like what I'm dealing with, but with everything else [14:53] BluesKaj_: but I have not such problem for example when playing movies... [14:54] too many bugs......... [14:56] I'm really upset over this.....been using kubuntu for years, and just recently, like within the last week,a it is not working right [14:56] hanibana, what kind of file is recording with recordmydesktop ? [14:56] I reinstalled, hoping to correct the problem, and then this morning it is crashing again! [14:57] I had sound problems when upgrading to Kubuntu 12.04 (as well as printer config problems). [14:57] westmi, did you run md5sum on th eimage [14:57] BluesKaj_: it captures desktop and outputs as video file as ogv format. === jackcy75 is now known as peterliedler [14:58] yes but what is playing on the desktop that you need use recordmydesktop for? [14:58] yes-it is the same disc i have been using with sucess [14:59] the only thing I can deduce is someone hacked my s@#t because I used the same password, MAYBE...... [14:59] BluesKaj_: some scenarios on a network management software to be recorded as a homework for my net management course! [15:00] westmi, i doubt that very much [15:00] so do i [15:00] hanibana, can't you just copyt the software into a file [15:01] BluesKaj_: and then? [15:01] play it back with a media player [15:03] westmi, give some details about kubuntu crashing [15:03] crap, I hate it when I have to drag out my linux book,to start entering commands [15:03] I just wanna use it, .... [15:03] not fix it [15:03] westmi, like I said we need details in order to help [15:04] yeah, i'm a slow typist, so please be patient with me...... [15:06] I had this installed for about a year,(kubuntu 12.04), and right about the time the new linux kernal was released,firefox, dolphin just quit working [15:07] and the desktop started crashing due to knet issues [15:07] kdenet? [15:07] I dont remember exactly what it was [15:07] kwin? [15:08] plasma-desktop [15:08] crap I'll have ta get back with ya, because I done forgot the exact issue [15:08] not plasma [15:08] sounds like graphics driver problems [15:08] kwin might of been one of em [15:09] I've got a nvidea 9500 that has been very consistaintly good [15:10] yeah, nvidea has been releasing all kinds of new drivers.....i'll try one of the others [15:11] westmi, best to use the drivers available in kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers [15:12] yep, and I always use the recommended one [15:14] Hey there, I have a question: I have a Pc with a smale SSD and a 2TB HDD, My SSD runs allways full with Programs and my HDD is unused so is it Posibble to Install Programs on my HDD so that unly the Mayn System runs on the SSD? [15:14] and sorry for my Bad English ._.* [15:15] unly? [15:15] only :D [15:15] Mayn? [15:15] Main [15:15] main [15:16] I thought for a second you had one of those Mayan systems..the one that only runs an astrological calendar and reminds you when it's time for the human sacrifice. [15:16] lol [15:17] how small is the ssd? [15:17] doubt it , you'll have one OS on 2 drives , one for / and the hdd for /home ...never heard of that working [15:17] apparently it works on Windoze. [15:18] but I wouldn't attempt it on Linux. [15:19] I have an SSD.120 G..that's all I need. It keeps things simple. [15:19] 60 GB SSD but thanks to Crossover it is Allways full [15:19] sebastian_, after updates and upgrades , run autoremove and autoclean to keep your system to a minimum footprint [15:20] that reminds me..I should install Bleachbit. [15:20] crossover ? [15:21] Crossover allows you to play Windows games on LInux,I believe. [15:21] Is there an xml viewer for kubuntu? I don't find any, only xml editors [15:21] what happycannid says [15:21] sebastian_, whynot just install windows ion the hdd ? [15:22] you could do that [15:22] and you'd still have your data files from Windows available through Linux [15:22] becaus I dont want to shut down the Pc and boot again just for playing a game === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off [15:25] reboot into the windows drive ..simple ..not shutting down [15:25] Sebastian..with your configuration;you're better off installing Windows. The 60G SSD for Windows and essential programs; and the 2TB HDD for non-critical programs and your data. [15:25] store your games on the HDD , sebastian_ [15:33] thx === jbracker is now known as Guest72928 === fernando is now known as Guest91757 [15:52] hi! [15:52] hi [15:54] tried to update from 12.10 to 13.04: muon tries to open /usr/share/pyshared/UpdateManager/DistUpgradeFetcherKDE.py, but that doesn't live there, its somewhere in /usr/lib/python3/ [15:54] known bug? === BTCOxygen is now known as Guest23539 === BTCOxygen|1 is now known as BTCOxygen [16:31] Where is the message board? [16:36] Where are the trouble shooting forums for Kubuntu where I can post a message? [16:41] http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum.php [16:41] or http://forum.kde.org/ [16:55] Genyar, this is kubuntu real time support , what's your question ? [16:55] I'm tryinig to find the write forum for troubleshooting [16:56] the right forum for troubleshooting [16:56] s there a way of using the Find command to examine those packages I had downloaded and installed, to see if some malware was installed, and to see if my home directory was affected? Should I use the Find command to examine all the files modified within the last 9 hours? [16:57] Is there an automated tool that can delete the packages that were installed based on their files' modification times? Or should I use the -exec command to delete all of the files that were downloaded about 9 hours ago? Or should I just move all of the files modified within the last 10 hours to the posix directory and examine them before deleting them? [16:58] Is Kopete a KDE PIM application? [16:59] Genyar, if you run apt-get autoremove and apt-get autoclean , you can clean out old files from youe system , do it periodically . also to find file or packages , use apt-file packagename or filename [17:01] kopete is a stand alone app afaik [17:01] apt-file packagename.....mmm.....thats sounds like a general command, don't I need to be more specific in terms of the timestamp? [17:02] gen yeah , packagename is the name of the file or package you want [17:02] Genyar, [17:03] like kopete or ... [17:04] and what makes you think the repositories contain malware ? === ralf is now known as Guest47325 [17:23] I don't know the specifi c name of the package that was installed [17:27] Genyar, never heard of a method to delete files according to their install timestamps, but it may exist [17:27] #ubuntu-app-devel [17:28] oh [17:28] you're still here [17:28] /join/#ubuntu-app-devel [17:28] I asked in #ubuntu , but didn't get a reply [17:28] Yes you can [17:28] jackcy75: /join #ubuntu-app-devel [17:28] by using he -exec option [17:28] or #kubuntu-devel [17:28] thx, i always mispell that *G* [17:29] I posted a topic called "Kopote Troubleshooting" in the KDE forums [17:29] I mean "Kopete Troubleshooting" [17:30] Genyar, even #kde may have some ppl who know [17:30] how do I get there? [17:31] should I go there now, Blues? [17:33] just click on the #kde or #kubuntu-devel , but the standard methos is to type /join #nameofchat in the server textbox [17:34] ok [17:34] thanks blues [17:35] if you're using a real irc client , not some all in one client [17:36] Most modern GUI clients (I don't know of any who won't, actually) will properly interpret you clicking on a channel name like #kde or such as you wanting to go there, and act accordingly :) [17:36] konversation does [17:37] for sure , [17:44] Ok, are there Kubuntu experts here? [17:44] I need to do some troubleshooting [17:45] Are you guys Kubuntu experts? [17:46] Genyar: what's the issue? [17:48] I have a problem with Kopete [17:48] Genyar, this is where you were before , anyway backup your impoortant files and go here to download the latest kubuntu , http://www.kubuntu.org/ [17:49] we don't support Kopete any more, current versions of Kubuntu use KDE Telepathy [17:49] I don't want to backup files that are compromised [17:50] what makes you think you have compromised files? it's very unlikely you do, this isn't windows. [17:50] why do you think they are compromized , this isn't windows [17:50] I want to analyse and delete the rogue files first, incase they contain malware [17:50] BluesKaj_: Malware exists for Linux though. [17:51] so there are Kubuntu experts here? [17:51] SonikkuAmerica, let's not get sidetracked with a irrelevant debate [17:51] Genyar: Riddell is one of the lead developers, I guess that counts as expert [17:51] BluesKaj_: Sorry, just a side point. [17:52] Riddell is here? [17:52] Genyar, he just posted above [17:52] I see [17:53] I made a stupid mistake early this morning when I was trying to create a new Yahoo email account. Because I got a security warning from Mozilla about third party visibility, I switched to using Reconq as my Web Browser. Then I registered a new Yahoo email account, and late in the registration process, Yahoo told me I need to update, upgrade and download some stuff in order to gain full access to the functionality of the [17:53] website I was using. [17:54] * BluesKaj_ wonders why ppl bother with yahoo these days [17:54] lol [17:54] I thought this was strange for a few reasons. First, because the file it asked me to download said something like MP3 or MPEG, but it included a bunch of other files with a total of about 8 MB. And the second reason I was suspicious was that if this was related to the Yahoo website, then why would yahoo ask me to download it 3/4s way through the installation process. It should have asked me as soon as I opened the website. === greg__ is now known as Silvershock [17:55] the mozilla warning we can't comment on without knowing what it said, but it almost certainly won't have left anything on your computer [17:55] it told me it would enhance the functionality of the website and enable me to complete what I was doing. So, I just accepted the downloads and gave it permission, and it ended up downloading 19 packages and said it was updating or upgrading my current packages, and it took about 2 minutes. I gave it permission to access my Kwallet, which I don't know anything about. When it was done, I was able to complete the registration [17:55] process, but there were problems with my new email account and it didn't work. When I tried to register the new account again, I got the same request to download the update again. [17:55] the rekonq warning we also can't comment without knowing more about what it said, it was probably just not liking rekonq [17:56] what did you download? [17:56] So, I used Firefox to create the new account, and that worked better. [17:56] 19 p[ackages [17:56] rekonq isn't working right on many websites ..it's quite useless [17:57] oh [17:57] I had done this, so I could add my Yahoo account to Kopete. So, when I booted up Kopete, I added the new yahoo account and tested it. But I experienced a lot of problems with Kopete, especially with respect to my contact list, and whenever I logged off Kopete. [17:59] hi Lars [17:59] gen I think you suspicions are unwarranted , since rekonq isn't recognized properly then yahoo gave you the messages about flash and other plugins need to render their pages properly , that's probly what you saw and interpreted as malware [18:00] Genyar,^ [18:00] that is good news [18:00] But kopete was working well before I had downloaded those packages [18:02] Is there a way of using the Find command to examine those packages I had downloaded and installed? [18:02] and to see if my home directory was affected? [18:03] Genyar, kopete is still available in 13.04 if you backup and upgrade to 13.04 [18:03] I was told that 12.04 is a better and more reliable version of Kubuntu [18:03] Genyar, the packages you mentioned were part of the rekonq / yahoo DL? [18:04] That's what I want to find out [18:04] Genyar, that's just someone's opinion [18:04] well, 12.04 is at least supported :P [18:05] 13.04 is stable and works well in kubuntu , ubuntu on the other hand has desktop problems [18:05] Should I use the Find command to examine all the files modified within the last 9 hours? [18:05] Genyar, I think it's waste of your time [18:06] Is there an automated tool that can delete the packages that were installed based on their files' modification times? Or should I use the -exec command to delete all of the files that were downloaded about 9 hours ago? Or should I just move all of the files modified within the last 10 hours to the posix directory and examine them before deleting them? [18:06] Genyar, remember , this isn't windows [18:06] !virus [18:06] Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus [18:06] Genyar,^ [18:08] yeah? [18:08] yeah [18:08] yeah. [18:08] What is that program that replaces Kopete in Kubuntu 12.04? [18:09] kopete is available in 12.04 and 12.10 and 13.04 ..it's just not being upgraded [18:09] but ppl still use it [18:10] But you said there's a program better than Kopete? [18:10] empathy is aterrible buggy thing , it should be trashed [18:10]