[00:00] actualyl scratch that. Are you using xchat? [00:00] no i'm not i'm currently using a computer that i cannot download anything onto [00:00] Jpaez: is this text in a different color? [00:01] no [00:01] the name in <> is though [00:01] dang, ok. when I write "Jpaez:" followed by something I want you to type it in the terminal [00:01] okay [00:01] Jpaez:cd [00:02] Jpaez:cd Desktop [00:02] Jpaez:pwd === exad_ is now known as exad [00:02] please copy and and paste what you see [00:02] so I can see it [00:03] when i did that it now says "~/Desktop$" [00:03] very good [00:03] Jpaez:ls [00:04] please tell me if you can see the name of your file [00:04] yes [00:04] in red it says [00:04] excellent [00:04] now, do you know what tar means? [00:04] "cricket _mode_switch.tar.gz" [00:04] yes it's a compressed file [00:04] good [00:05] now, in unix we dont have some old program like winzip that uncompresses it for you. instead we use the tar tool [00:05] yes i understand that [00:05] i am looking at your guide, do you know why you write xzvf? [00:06] no i do not [00:06] ok, 99% of all unix tools follow a basic format [00:07] tool_name tool_options files_to_be_changed [00:07] so tar is the tool name, xvcf is the options, and that long cricket file is the file to be changed [00:07] i follow so far [00:08] tool options are often called flags [00:08] the same tool can do many actions, just like in windows excel can do a million things [00:08] ok so the first thing we have to do is uncompress the file [00:09] Jpaez: tar xzvf Cricket_Mode_Switch.tar.gz [00:09] you should see a lot of activity going on, if you see anything that says error let me know [00:10] okay.... [00:10] is it done? [00:10] no i typoed -_- [00:11] if you push the up arrow button on your keyboard it will display the last command. this is useful for typos [00:11] i fixed it [00:11] did it finish? [00:12] yes i'll type out the text give me 2 mins [00:12] (x extract, z gz type file, v verbose, f file to work on) [00:12] Unit193: admit it you looked that up, no one memorizes that ;) [00:12] isiah: That sounds better. [00:13] you a perl hacker by any chance? [00:13] got an odd one [00:13] lol i honestly have a book on that, and i understand it till i put it into practice then go "wtf did i do" [00:13] on what? [00:13] ubuntu -_- [00:13] oh ok [00:13] ... particularly paranoid person [00:13] I personally like J better than z. I have done some perl regex, but I don't officially know any programming language. [00:13] could we continue? I live in ny and have a train to catch [00:14] took me 2-3 months of planning till i got this going and yes [00:14] ok did it finish uncompressing? [00:14] yes [00:14] shows all the files that it showed when i tried this before [00:14] this is where i got stuck [00:15] ok now when I type tab from now on I want you to push the tab key not type tab in. Got it? [00:15] 1 sec fucked up -_- [00:16] it should be located above the capslock key [00:16] what happened? [00:16] tried to type yes here did it on my desktop keyboard -_- [00:16] dont worry, just hit enter [00:17] ready to continue? [00:17] it started a process and kept typing "y" continuously [00:17] close the terminal and open another one [00:17] its not a big deal [00:17] yes did that [00:17] back to desktop$ [00:18] Ctrl+c if you do it again. [00:18] ok do you have a terminal? [00:18] yes [00:19] Jpaez: cd ~/Desktop [00:19] Jpaez: ls [00:19] do you see two entries? [00:19] no "no such file or directory" [00:19] sigh [00:20] Jpaez: cd [00:20] Jpaez: cd De tab [00:20] remember what i said that tab means push the tab button [00:20] after you do that hit enter [00:21] pushing tab nothing happens [00:21] okay..... [00:21] it now said [00:21] cd-create-profile cd-fix-profile [00:21] then after it said cd record [00:22] ok, we will try again [00:22] Jpaez: cd [00:22] Jpaez: ls [00:22] do you see the word "Desktop"? [00:22] yes i do [00:22] Jpaez: cd Desktop [00:23] keeps saying [00:23] Jpaez: ls [00:23] for both of thos [00:23] no such file or directory [00:23] Jpaez: pwd [00:23] what does it say? [00:23] no such file or directory [00:24] .... [00:24] cd ~/Desktop [00:24] ok, you are in the Desktop then [00:24] Jpaez: ls [00:24] does it show two files? [00:25] okay it shows in red "Cricket_Mode_Switch.tar.gz and in blue "usb_modeswitch-0.9.7 [00:25] good [00:26] now, when you hit tab the computer is going to try to finish your command for you [00:26] Jpaez: cd us tab [00:26] so type in "cd us" [00:26] then hit the tab button [00:26] yes i did that [00:26] it should fill in the file name for you [00:26] did it fill it in for you? [00:27] now shows...."~/Desktop$ cd usb_modeswitch -0.9.7 [00:27] push enter [00:27] now shows...."~/Desktop$ cd usb_modeswitch -0.9.7/" [00:27] okay [00:27] now at ~/Desktop/usb_modeswitch-0.9.7$ [00:27] yeah [00:28] Jpaez: su [00:28] and type in your root password [00:28] .... i don't believe i have one [00:28] would it be the password for my current computer ? [00:28] profile* [00:28] I can assure you as a linux engineer, you do [00:29] try it [00:29] okay it's in [00:29] did you hit enter? [00:29] okay.... [00:30] do you see the word "root" on your screen now? [00:30] no [00:30] bash !@5:event not found [00:30] did it tell you that the password was wrong? [00:30] bash !@5:event not found is what it put it now is at the same thing it was at before [00:31] .... [00:31] let's try this again [00:31] Jpaez: sudo make install [00:31] okay [00:32] type in your password [00:32] hit enter right? [00:32] yes [00:32] same thing event not found [00:33] *bangs head on lab bench [00:35] You have build-essential and libusb-dev? [00:36] how can he not be able to sudo? [00:36] its so basic, no way that should be broken [00:36] okay it's asking me for my password and when i type it in it doesn't show anything happening [00:36] You had him su, no? [00:36] really you dont see "root" anywhere? [00:36] yeah [00:36] Jpaez:whoami [00:36] okay i typed anyway and it worked this time [00:36] pleae tell me what it says [00:37] right now it showed [00:37] you see root on your screen? [00:38] "mkdir -p /usr/sbin" install ./usb_modeswitch /usr/sbin" 'mkdir -p /etc" "install ./usb_modeswitch.con /etc" [00:38] "mkdir -p /usr/sbin" install ./usb_modeswitch /usr/sbin" 'mkdir -p /etc" "install ./usb_modeswitch.conf /etc" [00:38] alrighty [00:39] we can try it again [00:39] Jpaez:whoami [00:39] it shouldnt be saying a lot [00:39] no it just says my profile name [00:39] when I type that in on my computer it says "isiah" [00:39] good [00:39] Jpaez:su- [00:40] that is with a minus sign [00:40] okay [00:40] type in your password and hit enter [00:40] and then [00:40] Jpaez:whoami [00:40] fuck... [00:40] it's my password [00:41] it's numbers, symbols and letters whenever i use the symbols it messes up [00:41] *points gun at his own head [00:41] Though, please try to keep this channel family friendly. [00:42] swearing and suicidal comments wonderful. [00:42] okay dokay, I am going to need you to logout and login as root [00:42] how do i go about that ? [00:42] okay, okay less melodrama from me [00:42] !info usb-modeswitch-data [00:42] usb-modeswitch-data (source: usb-modeswitch-data): mode switching data for usb-modeswitch. In component main, is extra. Version 20120815-2 (raring), package size 26 kB, installed size 207 kB [00:43] Which may actually be installed already. [00:43] in the top right corner of your screen you should see your name, click it, then click "quit" then you will be returned to a login screen you start with at this point slecte root and type in your password [00:44] and actuatlly, its time for me to catch the train home [00:44] good night all [00:45] okay it doesn't show me "root" [00:45] it just has my profile... [00:47] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1146110&page=25&p=10599404#post10599404 indicates you should install usb-modeswitch-data. [00:54] unit193 i believe that is where i was, but i'm lost now.... they told me to go into "root" but i don't believe i have acess to it [00:55] access* [04:12] Hello all [04:14] I just got a motherboard from ebay that is the same motherboard I had before that had problems [04:16] I installed flash 11.2 and flash videos work because the graphics card on this motherboard can use 3d unlike the other motherboard I was using [04:19] r4y: congrats [04:32] sorry I will be back [04:43] Sorry about that and sorry about before. I feel pretty stupid about before the other day. [04:43] r4y: ? [04:44] Ubuntu gnome to unity and my not wanting to change, but I get it [04:44] Everything I like works on Ubuntu 10.04 for now and who knows what direction I will go with Linux in the future [04:45] i think 10.04 is EOL [04:45] !10.04 [04:45] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support continues. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details. [04:45] yup.. yesterday [04:45] I know I am not suppose to ask questions about Ubuntu, O great that answer a question I had [04:46] r4y: i dont mind.. ask what you want [04:46] I thought it ended April last month [04:46] and [04:46] there was 4 updates for java this month so [04:46] its just that 10.04 is not "officially supported".. thus OT here, but there is an OT channel [04:46] r4y: supported ended yesterday.. java might be coming from a PPA [04:46] I wasn't sure they were safe [04:47] r4y: not updating java is not safe [04:47] r4y: i would be aware of where the upgrades are coming from [04:47] OK, great I should make note of that [04:48] That's what I was thinking [04:48] Unsupported channel?, ubuntu-offtopic or? [04:49] !ot [04:49] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [04:49] r4y: what i am reffering to is #ubuntu-beginners-team ..that is our OT channel [04:49] OK,I didn't know that [04:50] r4y: from the /topic - "Want offtopic? Head over to #ubuntu-beginners-team" [04:50] I thought the ubuntu channel wasn't for unsupported [04:50] O O [04:50] sorry I didn't read everything you said [04:50] r4y: ubuntu 10.04 is *not* officially supported.. so you go to an OT channel.. the one the bot mentioned, or the one from the topic [04:51] but, i'll tell you what the deal is with 10.04.. you are on your own.. thats it.. no big deal really.. [04:51] It's cool, I understand that [04:53] i usually use, and suggest xfce to folks wanting the old gnome2 look/feel [04:53] for me, there is no comparison between xubuntu 13.04 and ubuntu 10.04.. i would choose xubuntu 13.04 [04:54] 13 is out, I didn't try version 12 for much time [04:55] I didn't know 13 was out [04:55] Arg, I have a problem unrelated [04:55] this graphics card's fan is making a lot of noise [04:57] I need to get a new fan I think and it's my fault for it being so loud [04:57] r4y: the releases for ubuntu work like this (at least for the past releases and for now) [04:57] r4y: every april and october, an ubuntu is released [04:58] I know, that's why it's 04 and 10 which stands for the month [04:58] in april of 2013 13.04 is released... april is the .04.. 2013 is the 13 [04:58] I recently learned that [04:58] r4y: ok [04:59] Well, I am not sure I want to run this computer anymore then I have to considering how loud the fan is, not because I can't stand the noise but because I am afraid of it causing problems [05:01] thank you for being so kind and I am sorry about everything before. Life has been pretty stressful but at least I know I have it way better then others out there. [05:02] r4y: no worries [05:02] r4y: i would try 13.04 live.. could be driver support [05:02] also, look at the fans and make sure they are working.. fans are cheap... and thermal paste [05:03] I remember when you helped me get my lightsnake usb thing u ma jug thing working [05:03] i like to plan for failure personally.. i have machines that are well backed up, and easily replacable [05:03] it helped me understand things better [05:03] r4y: cheers! [05:04] I can't help but wonder if my other cpu works, what's cool is this motherbaord came with a cpu, cpu fan and 1 gig of ram [05:05] Your right, I need to think way farther ahead, I tried but I am still not used to the ins and outs of computers but I am getting there [05:06] I mean I am getting closer the simple things [05:06] get *any* computer.. and play with it [05:07] i think its better to have a stable machine.. dont mess with that one at all.. keep it backed up.. have another one or other ones to play around with.. also, virtualbox [05:07] I should, one step at a time [05:08] I have to go [05:09] get cheap or free ones [05:09] i have a stack of free ones [05:09] good idea [05:14] o/ [05:16] I found a coool app called pSensors. It shows the temperature of your cpu and gpu as well as the speed at which the fan runs. Displays it in a max/min format as well as a graph showing data over time [05:17] not sure if that has anything to do with your issue...I cam in at the end :) [05:22] o/ [05:22] Ha duan [05:22] Ya, the problem I have is the graphics card fan is making noise which is my fault [05:22] ahh [05:23] hate noisy fans [05:23] I tried cleaning, ha ha, I should have done it the right way and it was too delicate for how I was cleaning [05:23] i would probably just take it off and risk it.. or replace it [05:24] but, i have free/cheap graphics cards and fans [05:24] I don't have a place to spray air and I have been shown how, I bought this air bottle but was afraid to use it [05:24] I have been shown how to use it properly I meant [05:24] r4y: its air [05:24] I have not been I meant [05:24] r4y: you just spray it.. you literally cant break anything with it.. its air.. you'll only clean something else [05:25] I think how ever this is made not for the inner parts [05:25] r4y: it is.. [05:25] I am looking at it now [05:25] fellows air duster [05:25] r4y: its just air.. you will only clean something else [05:26] still checking it out [05:26] check out what you like.. you can spray air anywhere in that machine.. [05:26] it says [05:26] r4y: im saying.. you can spray that where you like [05:26] "however this product can be ignited [05:27] r4y: turn the machine off, and unplug it.. though, you wont "ignite" it [05:27] How long do I wait? [05:28] r4y: for what? [05:28] To spray and wait till I can turn the computer back on [05:28] r4y: whenever you like [05:29] r4y: im just saying, if youa re afraid of it "igniting", turn the machine off [05:29] r4y: its air [05:29] r4y: its not doing anything to your machine you need to wait on.. its just air.. just more air and faster [05:29] r4y: its nothing special.. the combustibles are the propellents [05:30] I figured that by it saying it can be ignited that it perhaps was more then air, there is no ingredient list, lol [05:30] r4y: its air, and a propellent [05:30] OK OK [05:30] r4y: ? [05:30] r4y: no caps please... its air.. no need to worry about it. spray it where ever you like [05:32] sorry I thought ok was supposed to capped, I usually cap them and I am not the type to make my words louder like some people who want to offend other by doing so [05:32] I mean by capping [05:33] r4y: no worries.. just take that air can and spray the components.. it should take a few seconds to nock the dust out [05:33] r4y: spray anywhere you can reach in there with it [05:35] Thank you, I was too afraid to use this, the reason was it says itcan be used on all these things such as keyboards, desk, phones but no mention of internal computer parts [05:36] I just looked up propellent for the fun of it [05:38] TY all for the help. I might want to get a fan for this graphics card, but using this when I need it will be great.I don't know if it fix this fan as I really think I messed it up beyond the repairing skills [05:39] my repairing skills, I have got to go, also so for the mis-spelling, I am really sleepy [05:39] You have all been great help to me [05:39] get a new graphics card. they are cheap.. i literally have a stack i would give you several if you were nearby [05:39] ...Too bad I'm not either. :P [05:39] r4y: dont waste too much time on broken things, if you are having issues with them.. things are literally free/cheap these days [05:39] Well, I like this one, I use the s-video on it [05:40] r4y: AFAIK, all the ones in my stack have svideo out [05:42] I will keep that in mind, maybe we can make a deal someday but I am not sure for now, ty [05:42] a deal? [05:42] the deal is, you can have them [05:42] have.. no deal.. you just take.. but yeah, not for now [05:43] ok, thank you [05:44] holstein: wow a stack of video cards you should start mining bitcoins [05:44] :P [05:44] duanedesign: not that kind ;) [05:47] ty, I should go. Keep in mind I don't expect what you offered in the future and it is kind of you to offer [05:48] r4y: expect nothing!.. thats a good policy.. but we'll talk. cheers and good evening [05:49] Nice, thank you and take care holstein and duandesign. [07:59] unable to mount images in furuousisomount? [08:03] vipulbuntu, You download it from the repos? [08:04] how do i knw that from where i have downloaded? [08:05] so that i can tell u? [08:05] vipulbuntu, I saw it in a tar at launchpad and in synaptic. [08:06] vipulbuntu, Did you download it a install or through the software center? [08:07] wilee-milee, i have done it through terminal.. [08:09] vipulbuntu, Can you describe it not mounting an ISO? [08:13] i am trying to load the .mdf file but in doing so i am not getting anything [08:13] i am mounting thru browse button.. [09:12] :P/4 === blazemore_ is now known as blazemore [15:47] hi [15:49] I am having issues on performing a netboot...at some point during the "Installing the base system", the client tries to connect to security.ubuntu.com and seems to stop there even if I have a local mirror...how do I prevent connections outside my network? [16:03] can anyone hear me? I am wondering if IRC is being blocked on my network [16:03] please send me a message [16:07] someone please send me a message [16:07] i guess i am being blocked...ty if you sent me a message [16:18] patience is a virtue, young padawan [16:18] ;) [21:05] Hey! Could anyone help me with my Wi-Fi issue. I just installed the 13.04 alongside with windows 7 on my Acer aspire 4820tg and I can't find my wi-fi. I've been searching all day for solutions and found many with same problem but no solution for myself. My Wi-Fi detected my home wireless when installing ubuntu but it disconnected right away after it. And now after installing I can't find it no matter what I do. I can s [21:05] not mine. [21:09] andresantos: what would i do? i would wire up and apply all upgrades [21:10] if its working occasionally and on and off like that, its likely a driver issue [21:11] andresantos: you cant look around for issues with wifi in general.. you need to look for issues in common with other users with the *exact* hardware you have.. otherwise, the information you read is likely not constructive [21:12] I've done it. Or I believe I've installed all appropriate drivers. I haven't been able to connect to the wifi not once yet. I was able to find another wi-fi at my friends house and worked fine. And like I said I can see 6 other Wi-Fi's in the house but not mine [21:12] I have a broadcom wifi adapter [21:12] andresantos: believe? [21:13] andresantos: so, you can connect to *some* wifi, and be conncted without issue? [21:13] Yes [21:13] andresantos: i would stop fooling around with the machine then, since you will likely only make things worse [21:13] andresantos: i would look at the settings on your AP, and see if you can make them more "friendly" [21:13] and I can find many other Wi-Fi's also and I have installed the Broadcom STA driver [21:14] !broadcom [21:14] Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [21:14] holstein: ok thanks! I'll try. [21:14] there is another wifi driver.. but i would look at the AP [21:14] Wi-fi does work with my mobile phone and Windows 7 also, only not with Ubuntu [21:14] i would also make sure you are looking in the wifi GUI under "more networks" [21:15] andresantos: sure.. and i understand that.. but it doesnt change the fact that the linux driver is having issues (apparently) with how your AP is configured [21:16] what would i do? disable encryption on the AP an try and connect.. see that you are using a common wpa setup [21:17] i have found AP's that my broadcom chip doesnt "like" to connect to [21:17] what am i going to do? probably just switch out the hardware next time i have the machine apart [21:17] Not exactly sure what do you mean with the more networks, tried also connecting to a hidden wi-fi but didn't work [21:18] holstein: thanks for your information. I'm gonna try to look at my AP settings if I find something [21:18] andresantos: what hidden network? is the network hidden or not? [21:19] No it's not but I still tried that method just to make sure. [21:19] what i mean by "more networks" is in the GUI.. there is the list of AP's, and when there are too many to display, you click "more networks" and see more networks [21:20] there are 2 broadcom driver options (assuming the open firmware doesnt support your device, in which case there would be 3) [21:20] Ok, there's just 6 Wi-Fi's and I believe that's it. Can't see "more networks" [21:20] andresantos: then, its not that [21:21] andresantos: what is it? i have no idea, but you'll need to try several things to troubleshoot [21:21] Not sure do I know how to change the broadcom driver but I can try reading the link you pasted [21:21] andresantos: then start with what you do understand.. mess with the config on the AP [21:22] temporarily disable encryption.. see that the settings are broad enough to include your device [21:22] if the AP is N only, and you have a G card.. for example [21:22] OR, if the driver is only G for some reason [21:23] I'm in the AP settings now, at the moment not sure what to try to change though [21:23] assume nothing, and test everything, and let broadcom know you are having a challenging time with their hardware in the operating system [21:23] andresantos: chage literally everything [21:23] andresantos: i would back it up as-is [21:23] then, i would disable encryption.. i would broaden it to include B,G & N [21:24] i would do literallly anything and everything til i see it from linux [21:24] Encryption: TKIP/AES [21:24] is that the issue? i have no idea, but i would around 6 minutes from now after having tried different settings [21:24] andresantos: sure.. so try another one.. try *no* encrption. temporarily [21:25] OK, well the settings up at the moment are default so if I mess something up it's no problem getting it back to default [21:25] andresantos: backup the config of the AP, then you can revert easily [21:25] Also I'm wondering could it be the Channel? [21:25] andresantos: it could be literally anything [21:25] user error. .config on the machine.. the AP.. the driver. the router [21:26] andresantos: assume its *all* of these.. and rule them out one by one [21:26] is it encryption? i dont know.. let me disable *all* encryption and test.. is it working with encryption disabled? if yes then its likely the encryption [21:26] if not, then move on to another variable [21:27]