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moocow1452 | Anyone good with SurfaceFlinger and hwcomposer? | 01:04 |
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Jroc0912 | hey there. I have an evo 4g lte and a toshiba thrive that I would love to have running Ubuntu. I have rummaged through countless forums today and all posts about it has seemed to stop over a month ago. Does anybody know if there has been any progress on these devices or when I will be able to get a fully functional Ubuntu up and running on them | 01:51 |
Jroc0912 | ugh guess not. Thanks for being helpful | 01:56 |
Mirv | kenvandine: xembed patch is in the 5.0.2 qtbase package | 03:55 |
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Mirv | renato_: did you see your commit comments in gerrit? since it wouldn't be acceptable as is, I think I'll remove the patch from our qtpim as well for now until a solution acceptable to upstream is found | 06:14 |
chriadam | which QtPim backend are you using, out of interest? An updated version of the syncevolution one? Or something else? | 06:17 |
Mirv | chriadam: just packaging a snapshot from https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtpim, nothing else | 06:20 |
chriadam | Mirv: ah ok | 06:20 |
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popey | morning | 07:36 |
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oSoMoN | mardy_: hey, I filed bug #1178552 to follow up on bug #1177964, could you please confirm it? | 09:50 |
ubot5 | bug 1178552 in webbrowser-app "Need separate packages for the plugin and the app" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1178552 | 09:50 |
ubot5 | bug 1177964 in Online Accounts: Sign-on UI "signon-ui in ubuntu-touch should use Ubuntu.Browser plugin" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1177964 | 09:50 |
mardy_ | oSoMoN: yep, looks good | 09:51 |
oSoMoN | mardy_: so, could you please set the status to 'Confirmed'? | 09:53 |
mardy_ | oSoMoN: ops, done | 09:54 |
oSoMoN | thx | 09:55 |
oSoMoN | mardy_: could you please also confirm bug #1178601 ? | 10:02 |
ubot5 | bug 1178601 in webbrowser-app "Need to expose 'url' and 'loading' properties on the Browser component" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1178601 | 10:02 |
mardy_ | oSoMoN: done, thanks | 10:02 |
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tux1986 | hello everybody | 11:58 |
tux1986 | does somebody know wether the adb tools found the nexus that run with ubuntu 13.04 or something like that or only if adnroid on the nexus? | 12:01 |
tux1986 | i want to run ubuntu touch on nexus 7 and adb did not found the device with running ubuntu 13.04 on it | 12:02 |
ogra_ | there is no adb ... its the desktop install ... | 12:02 |
ogra_ | boot into recovery mode and use the manual install method described on the touch install wiki | 12:03 |
tux1986 | it used adb on the desktop too if see write | 12:04 |
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tux1986 | i have installed ubuntu 13.04 installed on the nexus 7 and want to install ubuntu touch like the wiki says and it failed at 'adb devices' with device not found | 12:10 |
ogra_ | there is no adb ... its the desktop install ... | 12:25 |
ogra_ | boot into recovery mode and use the manual install method described on the touch install wiki | 12:25 |
ogra_ | (see, i can repeat my answers as well ... ) | 12:26 |
tux1986 | i do it like you says ogra i change the nexus in recovery mode and run adb push on the desktop | 12:29 |
ogra_ | good | 12:30 |
tux1986 | it says device not found | 12:30 |
ogra_ | adb says that ? | 12:30 |
ogra_ | works here | 12:30 |
ogra_ | did you do all the preparation stuff described higher above in the wiki ? | 12:31 |
ogra_ | (adb restart=server etc) | 12:31 |
ogra_ | s/=/-/ | 12:31 |
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tux1986 | ok some restarts latter adb devices displays me the device and adb push is running | 12:37 |
ogra_ | great :) | 12:38 |
tux1986 | adb is running and display no output is it right? | 12:38 |
ogra_ | for the armhf zip ? | 12:39 |
ogra_ | its quite big, it takes a while ... | 12:39 |
tux1986 | who long does it run? | 12:40 |
ogra_ | 10min or so | 12:40 |
tux1986 | ok i wait a while ;) | 12:40 |
ogra_ | the armel grouper zip is surely faster :) | 12:41 |
tux1986 | i run http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip | 12:42 |
ogra_ | (make sure you do both zips in the right order, that is very important) | 12:42 |
ogra_ | (like the wiki describes) | 12:43 |
user82 | does someone have ubuntu touch on a nexus 4? for me it was really really laggy, especially in the dropdown menu. is that normal? | 12:44 |
ogra_ | many do ... | 12:45 |
ogra_ | and it should not be laggy on the n4 at all | 12:45 |
ogra_ | sounds like you found some bug | 12:45 |
user82 | oh too bad. for me it was quite laggy in the dropdown menus. unusable i would say | 12:45 |
sergiusens | actually depends on the device... but 10 min is a got average for the slowest one | 12:45 |
user82 | maybe i test a daily "end of may" again | 12:45 |
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pmcgowan | user82, sounds like there must be something eating up you cpu, can you check top and the logs | 12:57 |
pmcgowan | user82, it should no appear at all slow | 12:57 |
user82 | ok thanks pmcgowan | 12:57 |
user82 | i flashed back my android but if the problem persists with the first 3g rom(where i will start using ubuntu) i will look into it | 12:57 |
pmcgowan | ok | 12:58 |
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* ogra_ really wonders hwy the saucy zip is so much smaller than the raring one | 13:02 | |
ogra_ | s/hwy/why/ | 13:02 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, have you diffed the manifests? | 13:03 |
ogra_ | not yet | 13:03 |
ogra_ | its 495 vs 524M | 13:03 |
ogra_ | waiting for the first fully automated build in 2h | 13:03 |
pmcgowan | maybe all those double versions were cleaned up | 13:03 |
ogra_ | my test of the last saucy image didnt really show any nis-function | 13:04 |
pmcgowan | yep | 13:04 |
ogra_ | *mis | 13:04 |
pmcgowan | also, I think we just dropped python2.7 | 13:04 |
ogra_ | but then that was on friday .... and yesyerdays build was having Qt issues | 13:04 |
ogra_ | in about 2h there should be a working build i will test | 13:04 |
pmcgowan | cool | 13:05 |
ogra_ | at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ btw | 13:05 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, aha we drop the preview and so its real | 13:20 |
ogra_ | yeah | 13:21 |
Mirv | boiko: hi, you probably noticed the bug reports and e-mails. phone-app / qt pim should all work now again, but it'd be nice if you rechecked | 13:21 |
boiko | Mirv: nice! thanks for looking into that | 13:21 |
ogra_ | it still uses a gross hack to produce the zip from the tarball ... | 13:21 |
ogra_ | until we have a bionic cross toolcahin in the archive | 13:21 |
pmcgowan | ok | 13:21 |
pmcgowan | do you have an alternate settings to use it with p-f? | 13:22 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, ^^ | 13:22 |
ogra_ | nope | 13:22 |
ogra_ | we should just switch the default once we know its safe | 13:23 |
pmcgowan | just thought it would make it easier to get more testing, let me look | 13:23 |
ogra_ | until we do, i would call it experimental enough that people can just use the manual method | 13:23 |
ogra_ | do a normal p-f with the latest ... then adb push the saucy zip to autodeploy.zip and reboot recovery .... | 13:24 |
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pmcgowan | ogra_, I am too lazy for that, I have an alternate settings already | 13:26 |
ogra_ | well, p-f would need some changes until we start shipping tteh android bits in ubuntu-touch/ anyway | 13:26 |
ogra_ | which again hangs on the bionic toolchain | 13:27 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, oh you dont have the android stuff there at all | 13:27 |
ogra_ | (like most other image realted stuff) | 13:27 |
pmcgowan | whats the diff between phablet and touch zips | 13:27 |
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ogra_ | you mean the android layer ? | 13:28 |
ogra_ | there is none, we dont produce android stuff in saucy at all yet | 13:28 |
pmcgowan | so we cant really switch until thats done | 13:28 |
sergiusens | Mirv: I approved your sensors MR | 13:28 |
ogra_ | we can ... by using the android zips we have from jenkins | 13:29 |
Mirv | sergiusens: thanks. 2 down, 1 to go (qtwebkit) | 13:29 |
ogra_ | the resulting zip should be the same either way | 13:29 |
sergiusens | ogra_: pmcgowan difference is what is in ppa:phablet-team | 13:29 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, so the current dir will look the same, just manually copy them to it | 13:29 |
ogra_ | and i could just sync into ubuntu-touch/ | 13:29 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, on the android layer ? | 13:30 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, I was asking the diff between phablet.zip and touch.zip | 13:30 |
sergiusens | ogra_: is network manager fixed? | 13:30 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, nope | 13:30 |
ogra_ | i dont think there were any fixes at all since last friday | 13:30 |
ogra_ | apart from me working on image building | 13:30 |
ogra_ | cyphermox, ^^^ is merging NM on your TODO ? | 13:31 |
pmcgowan | do we have a hitlist of things to do before saucy transition | 13:31 |
sergiusens | ogra_: so what I'm saying is, if hybris changes today, the android layer will change but saucy won't (ppa:phablet-team) | 13:31 |
user82 | pmcgowan, i do not know the details but is it completely impossible to include dalvikvm in ubuntu touch? licence or tech wise? | 13:31 |
ogra_ | pmcgowan, phablet.zip vs touch.zip is differing in the underlying system ... beyond that they use the same PPAs (until finally everyone starts uploading too saucy instead of PPAs | 13:32 |
ogra_ | ) | 13:32 |
sergiusens | user82: you can do it tech wise, but it's not the focus | 13:32 |
user82 | ok sergiusens | 13:32 |
pmcgowan | user82, tech wise no, license would also be ok but would cause other issues for manufacturers | 13:32 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, oh, could you copy that to saucy then ? | 13:32 |
user82 | ok | 13:32 |
pmcgowan | also dalvik is just the VM, you ned to look into the runtime deps | 13:33 |
pmcgowan | so its a big thing tech qise | 13:33 |
pmcgowan | wise | 13:33 |
user82 | allright thanks. do not really miss it once the basic apps are complete more a question of personal interest | 13:33 |
sergiusens | ogra_: it hasn't changed yet ;-) | 13:33 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, oops, missed the "if" :) | 13:33 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, I didnt understand the last answer, I see a touch_armhf.tar.gz and a phablet_armhf.zip | 13:34 |
sergiusens | ogra_: but those should land for saucy if they change eventually | 13:34 |
pmcgowan | why two things | 13:34 |
sergiusens | ogra_: the META-INF, is it the same one from raring or did you fork it? | 13:34 |
ogra_ | pmcgowan, oops, thanks ! ... typo in my evil script ! | 13:34 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, i had to fork it minimally ... | 13:35 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, sergiusens I think we have a session next week to review the transition and ensure we have all the pre-requisite steps | 13:35 |
mibofra | oi ciao :)) | 13:35 |
pmcgowan | is that true? | 13:35 |
sergiusens | if it's not there we should! | 13:35 |
pmcgowan | right, we need to do the blueprint today if its not there | 13:35 |
sergiusens | ogra_: was that in the list of BPs you were going to setup? | 13:35 |
mibofra | ops sorry XD | 13:35 |
mibofra | I've changed channel guys XD | 13:36 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, nope, just raw hackery yet... | 13:36 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, run_program("/sbin/mv", "/data/ubuntu_tmp_extract", "/data/ubuntu"); | 13:36 |
ogra_ | in updater-script | 13:36 |
ogra_ | the official tarballs dont have a "binary" toplevel dir, just / | 13:36 |
ogra_ | pmcgowan, phablet vs touch fixed ... the new build should come out at preinstalled-touch like it should | 13:39 |
ogra_ | s/at/as/ | 13:39 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, ok | 13:39 |
jhodapp | sergiusens, the sensor MR worked for you? Did you build your own package and install it to the target? | 13:39 |
sergiusens | jhodapp: hey, just say you claimed the review | 13:39 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, can you make a bp for the saucy image work | 13:40 |
sergiusens | jhodapp: I already Happroved, we can switch back | 13:40 |
sergiusens | jhodapp: well I fixed the build, then used the deb that came out of jenkins | 13:40 |
jhodapp | sergiusens, no that's ok, if you got it to work then it must be working...I don't know why it didn't work for me | 13:40 |
sergiusens | jhodapp: seem my comment :-) | 13:40 |
ogra_ | pmcgowan, on my TODO already ... just didnt register it yet | 13:40 |
pmcgowan | vg thanks | 13:40 |
sergiusens | jhodapp: tried on maguro, and can try on manta as well if it makes sense | 13:40 |
pmcgowan | sergiusens, will we spin a new raring build this morning? | 13:40 |
jhodapp | sergiusens, couldn't hurt to try it on manta | 13:41 |
sergiusens | pmcgowan: the webkit bug isnt' fixed yet... and the sensors was just looked at today... so it would be broken | 13:41 |
jhodapp | sergiusens, what build # did you try this on? | 13:41 |
sergiusens | jhodapp: 119 | 13:42 |
sergiusens | jhodapp: my manta has 118 with a dist-upgrade I did to track down the issue... I'll test there too | 13:42 |
jhodapp | sergiusens, ok, leave it as approved then...my setup must be funny then | 13:42 |
sergiusens | jhodapp: nah, pulling out the manta :-) | 13:43 |
ogra_ | wasnt 119 broken ? | 13:43 |
ogra_ | (due to Qt) | 13:44 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, btw, tell me once i can enable syncing again, i see colin switched it off | 13:44 |
Mirv | jhodapp: I tried the sensors on a mako | 13:45 |
sergiusens | ogra_: yeah 119 is broken | 13:45 |
jhodapp | Mirv, works ok? | 13:45 |
Mirv | jhodapp: yes, I wouldn't have submitted the merge proposal otherwise :) | 13:45 |
jhodapp | Mirv, do you have a galaxy nexus? | 13:45 |
Mirv | jhodapp: I did notice your supplied qtsensors.qml used the dummy output unless I disabled that plugin, but it gave the "Registered..." text in all cases and all apps worked | 13:46 |
sergiusens | Mirv: jhodapp works fine on manta as well | 13:46 |
Mirv | jhodapp: unfortunately not | 13:46 |
jhodapp | sergiusens, awesome, thanks | 13:46 |
Mirv | sergiusens: ok, thanks | 13:46 |
jhodapp | Mirv, hmm ok, you should probably see about getting one since that's our primary target atm. | 13:46 |
ogra_ | ++ | 13:47 |
sergiusens | jhodapp: I won't Happrove since I see you added Needs Fixing ;-) | 13:47 |
ogra_ | they are hard to get though ... | 13:48 |
sergiusens | jhodapp: you can download the deb from the MR btw | 13:48 |
jhodapp | sergiusens, now you can Happrove | 13:48 |
sergiusens | jhodapp: maguro is the target, but not everyone is going to have one as you can't buy them anymore | 13:48 |
pmcgowan | jhodapp, we have 4 reference designs, not everyone can have all of them | 13:49 |
jhodapp | sergiusens, oh really, hmm | 13:49 |
pmcgowan | nexus is mainly prime for devs since its the lowest capability | 13:49 |
sergiusens | pmcgowan: they are all nexus ;-) | 13:49 |
pmcgowan | indeed | 13:49 |
jhodapp | pmcgowan, makes sense...I though Mirv might want one for testing out the performance of new Qt versions on low-end hardware | 13:49 |
Mirv | jhodapp: before last week I didn't have any device, so I'm happy I have at least one device. my arm Qt building is also doable with that in case needed. | 13:49 |
pmcgowan | jhodapp, I think some others can do that | 13:50 |
jhodapp | right | 13:50 |
sergiusens | Mirv: so what's the issue with qtwebkit and the patch not applying? | 13:50 |
ogra_ | jhodapp, thats why we have a QA team ;) | 13:53 |
ogra_ | we need to make more use of them | 13:54 |
Mirv | sergiusens: if you take lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtwebkit-opensource-src , and try to apply the add_experimentalDevicePixelRatio.patch as it was until bzr26 in that branch on top of Qt 5.0.2, it fails | 13:54 |
jhodapp | ogra_, QA team, what's that? ;p | 13:54 |
ogra_ | as soon as the word "test" comes up in a sentence it should scream QA to you ;) | 13:54 |
Mirv | sergiusens: so I modified the patch to apply, see bzr diff -r 26..27, and the first thought would be that I modified it wrong and that's why it doesn't work. the other option is that something else changed in qtwebkit 5.0.2 | 13:54 |
cyphermox | ogra_: yes, it is | 14:03 |
ogra_ | ah, cool, so the saucy image should work then | 14:04 |
sergiusens | ogra_: cyphermox in the TODO or done? | 14:10 |
ogra_ | oh, heh | 14:11 |
* ogra_ was assuming a yes to the merge :) not to the list addition | 14:11 | |
cyphermox | ogra_: in todo | 14:11 |
ogra_ | k | 14:11 |
cyphermox | I can't just take the patches that were on raring/quantal for touch, they're not right for desktop | 14:12 |
cyphermox | where can I try the saucy image? | 14:13 |
ogra_ | soon from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/ | 14:13 |
ogra_ | the 20130510/ image should start being usable | 14:13 |
ogra_ | (i hope) | 14:14 |
ogra_ | cdimage should spit it out within the next hour | 14:14 |
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jmanuel_cool | hi | 14:33 |
jmanuel_cool | someone speak spanish????? | 14:33 |
ogra_ | people in spain do ... i heard | 14:34 |
jmanuel_cool | ok, can i install ubuntu touch on my huawei UM840??? | 14:34 |
ogra_ | check the devices wikipage | 14:35 |
jmanuel_cool | i was reading wiki, but can't find this hardware | 14:35 |
ogra_ | !devices | jmanuel_cool | 14:35 |
ubot5 | jmanuel_cool: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 14:35 |
ogra_ | if it isnt there you can do a port (or try to find somebody to do it for you) | 14:35 |
jmanuel_cool | thank ogra_ | 14:35 |
ogra_ | !porting | jmanuel_cool | 14:35 |
ogra_ | !ports | jmanuel_cool | 14:36 |
ubot5 | jmanuel_cool: For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall | 14:36 |
ogra_ | bah | 14:36 |
ogra_ | popey, dont we have a command for the ports page ? | 14:36 |
jmanuel_cool | ogra_: that's sound cool, but i'm not programmer :'C | 14:36 |
ogra_ | (teh porting link is in the channel topic btw) | 14:37 |
jmanuel_cool | ogra_: i find this device https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/u8815 << which is similar (but not equal) hardware, but wikipage is empty | 14:38 |
* jmanuel_cool apologize for his worst english | 14:38 | |
ogra_ | i can understand you ... so your english is good enough :) | 14:39 |
ogra_ | the page has links in the top table | 14:39 |
popey | ogra_: dont think so | 14:39 |
jmanuel_cool | ogra_: i'm reading links, but job can be rude | 14:41 |
jmanuel_cool | well, i have other smartphone like mine, but the touch screen is broken (image can be displayed, but "tactil" don't work), i think to try with this | 14:43 |
popey | ogra_: is ubuntu_stamp going to move at some point? | 14:44 |
popey | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/ubuntu_stamp will be somewhere else? | 14:44 |
ogra_ | its a jenkins thing | 14:44 |
popey | I mean, the directory structure is changing? | 14:45 |
popey | s/-preview// ? | 14:45 |
ogra_ | if we dont use jenkins, the cdimage dir and .disk/info files are your stamp as on every other ubuntu install | 14:45 |
ogra_ | right, cdimage buiulds should not have the -preview anymore | 14:46 |
popey | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ubuntu_stamp is missing because the build was done manually, not via jenkins? | 14:46 |
popey | (I want to monitor that file so I know when a new build is done) | 14:46 |
jmanuel_cool | ok, another question, ¿what environment this use? ¿can i use other? like e16/17 | 14:46 |
ogra_ | popey, not manually, via a proper buildsystem :) | 14:46 |
popey | meow | 14:47 |
popey | ☻ | 14:47 |
ogra_ | jmanuel_cool, no, there is no Xorg on the images, so you can not use any apps that use X | 14:47 |
jmanuel_cool | ogra_: ?????? | 14:48 |
ogra_ | jmanuel_cool, ubuntu-touch does not use X | 14:48 |
jmanuel_cool | ogra_: why????? | 14:48 |
jmanuel_cool | ogra_: >> http://g300.thebronasium.com/screenshots/ubuntu/device-2013-02-27-211800_thumb.png << it's a joke????? | 14:49 |
ogra_ | because it will use Mir (and currently uses androids SurfaceFlinger) as display server | 14:49 |
ogra_ | no, thats how ubuntu-touch looks like | 14:49 |
popey | if you're looking at it from a far away.. | 14:50 |
ogra_ | but it does use its own display server, X applications do not run | 14:50 |
Mirv | (yet) | 14:51 |
jmanuel_cool | ogra_: ok, now i understand | 14:52 |
jmanuel_cool | ogra_: porting link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | 14:52 |
ogra_ | popey, wget -q -O - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/| html2text |grep " 2013"|tail -1|cut -d" " -f2 | 14:53 |
ogra_ | should work until end of the year :) | 14:54 |
popey | hah | 14:54 |
popey | thanks | 14:54 |
ogra_ | (can surely be cleaner, thats just a quick and dirty one) | 14:54 |
popey | are we moving away from build numbers to build dates? | 14:55 |
ogra_ | we are moving towards the generic build system | 14:55 |
popey | hm | 14:56 |
ogra_ | which does "$datestamp.$sequence" | 14:56 |
ogra_ | (mitting .$sequence if $sequence is empty) | 14:56 |
ogra_ | *omitting | 14:56 |
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sergiusens | Mirv: do you mind removing the current qtwebkit build? I copied the ~test3 one to phablet-team just in case... if so we can re enable the builds and fix this in parallel | 15:04 |
* jmanuel_cool downloading everything for flash his device | 15:17 | |
sergiusens | ogra_: pmcgowan I compared the manifests, packagewise, usb and consolekit are the only removals I can quickly see | 15:18 |
ogra_ | usb ? | 15:18 |
sergiusens | ogra_: libgusb2:armhf 0.1.5-0ubuntu1 and libusb-1.0-0:armhf 2:1.0.12-2ubuntu1 | 15:19 |
ogra_ | ah | 15:20 |
ogra_ | yeah that switches to 2.0 afaik | 15:20 |
ogra_ | and CK is dead and gone | 15:20 |
sergiusens | yup, still wouldn't explain the big image | 15:21 |
ogra_ | not really | 15:21 |
ogra_ | i mean, binaries might be smaller due to gcc 4.8 .... but not to that extend | 15:21 |
sergiusens | unless it's a livebuild thing... | 15:21 |
popey | compression level? | 15:22 |
ogra_ | we use -9 on cdimage | 15:22 |
ogra_ | -9 --rsyncable actually | 15:22 |
ogra_ | (for gziping the tarball) | 15:22 |
smagster | back to the X11 ?....so is anyone working on it for ubuntu-touch | 15:27 |
ogra_ | ask in #ubuntu-mir | 15:28 |
ogra_ | but i doubt its in the focus | 15:28 |
ogra_ | (thats rather a 14.04 task) | 15:28 |
* ogra_ would appreciate if people with other nexus devices could test the zip from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ | 15:37 | |
Mirv | sergiusens: I wouldn't remove it unless the old version is known to work with newer qt.. the version mismatch complaints (can't mix 5.0.1 with 5.0.2) come up often | 15:39 |
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kenvandine | aquarius, i took your maps patch and proposed it for you https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/friends-app/maps/+merge/163332 | 15:40 |
kenvandine | :) | 15:41 |
* ogra_ kind of has the feeling that saucy is way more responsive | 15:41 | |
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aquarius | hey kenvandine, sorry, I haven't had time to look at it :( | 15:41 |
ogra_ | but that might be a subjective impression or just wishful thinking | 15:41 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, gcc enhancements? | 15:41 |
ogra_ | probably | 15:41 |
ogra_ | try it :) | 15:41 |
kenvandine | aquarius, mind giving it a review? i also tweaked some labels to make the location name look like it is a button | 15:42 |
ogra_ | no networking though | 15:42 |
kenvandine | aquarius, no worries :) | 15:42 |
pmcgowan | ogra_, no networking! | 15:42 |
ogra_ | nope | 15:42 |
ogra_ | it uses network-manager from the archive which doesnt have the patches yet | 15:42 |
aquarius | kenvandine, I did note that dropping letters now doesn't have any music on my desktop, presumably because the phone can't do music? | 15:42 |
kenvandine | aquarius, right | 15:43 |
kenvandine | i couldn't figure out how to make it fail gracefully | 15:43 |
kenvandine | instead of crashing | 15:43 |
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Mirv | sergiusens: tested downgrading quickly and webrowser-app continues to work, so removed for now (a copy is still in qt5-beta-proper). I do have a memory that qtwebkit didn't appear to have the version clash problem at some point earlier, so maybe it just works. | 15:45 |
Mirv | sergiusens: if the webkit 5.0.2 is needed back, it can be copied | 15:45 |
sergiusens | Mirv: ok, if we need it, we will need it with the webkit fix | 15:46 |
sergiusens | *DPR fix | 15:46 |
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popey | ogra_: got intructions for manually installing those files on a nexus 4? I only ever use phablet-flash ☻ | 15:48 |
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ogra_ | popey, boot into recovery ... adb push /path/to/saucy/zip /sdcard/autodeploy.zip; adb reboot recovery | 15:49 |
aquarius | kenvandine, did the thing that meant that no posts had locations get fixed? that's why I didn't submit the branch before | 15:50 |
popey | ogra_: ta | 15:50 |
ogra_ | works also without recovery but i dont know if the mapping of /sdcard is the same on the n4 | 15:50 |
kenvandine | i had a handful from facebook | 15:50 |
popey | ogra_: no need for the tgz? | 15:50 |
ogra_ | nope | 15:50 |
kenvandine | and of course foursquare all had them | 15:50 |
popey | k | 15:50 |
ogra_ | just the zip | 15:50 |
kenvandine | aquarius, so i tested it | 15:50 |
aquarius | kenvandine, aah, that was it. I only use twitter, and twitter locations weren't showing up, so I couldn't test it properly | 15:50 |
kenvandine | aquarius, for an easy way to test it, i removed all my other accounts | 15:51 |
kenvandine | and just left foursquare :) | 15:51 |
aquarius | kenvandine, which also means that I can't meaningfully review it, though :( | 15:51 |
aquarius | s'pose I could just add a foursquare account, couldn't i? | 15:51 |
kenvandine | hehe :) | 15:51 |
kenvandine | yeah | 15:51 |
kenvandine | if you remove your twitter account, the rows will get purged from the model | 15:51 |
kenvandine | so you can then get a feed of just foursquare | 15:52 |
kenvandine | just for testing | 15:52 |
aquarius | kenvandine, oi! it doesn't *do* foursquare. | 15:56 |
kenvandine | ? | 15:57 |
aquarius | I have no option in online accounts to add a foursquare account. | 15:57 |
kenvandine | friends-foursquare | 15:57 |
kenvandine | install that | 15:57 |
kenvandine | which should pull in account-plugin-foursquare | 15:57 |
aquarius | oh | 15:57 |
aquarius | heh | 15:57 |
aquarius | friends doesn't depend on all its account types? | 15:58 |
kenvandine | it does | 15:58 |
kenvandine | the plugins do | 15:58 |
kenvandine | you didn't have friends-foursquare installed | 15:58 |
aquarius | but friends itself doesn't depend on all its plugins? | 15:58 |
aquarius | how would I know that friends-foursquare existed? | 15:58 |
kenvandine | nope | 15:58 |
kenvandine | software center :) | 15:58 |
kenvandine | it suggests them all | 15:58 |
aquarius | ya, but friends is gonna be default, right? | 15:59 |
kenvandine | yeah | 15:59 |
kenvandine | on twitter and facebook are in main | 15:59 |
kenvandine | different level of support | 15:59 |
aquarius | at that point, either we should also ship all the plugins, or there should be some way of alerting the user that they can add foursquare, I think | 15:59 |
aquarius | oh, we don't *want* people to add other plugins unless they know what they're doing? | 15:59 |
kenvandine | well, i want them to | 16:00 |
kenvandine | but we don't necessarily want to have to support everything plugin anyone contributes | 16:00 |
kenvandine | we want to make sure it is well maintained | 16:00 |
kenvandine | foursquare is though | 16:00 |
kenvandine | we should come up with a way to make that more discoverable | 16:01 |
aquarius | I have to actually remove my twitter account? I can't just block friends from accessing it? | 16:01 |
kenvandine | but, if someone knows they want foursquare, they'll look in software center and see it's available | 16:01 |
kenvandine | oh | 16:01 |
kenvandine | you can probably just block it | 16:01 |
kenvandine | if not... that's a bug :) | 16:01 |
aquarius | disagree completely. It never would have occurred to me that Ubuntu even knows about foursquare. | 16:02 |
aquarius | now, you can argue that my first thing would be to search for a foursquare app, and then I discover the Ubutnu foursquare integration... | 16:02 |
kenvandine | aquarius, how would you install foursquare on your iphone? | 16:02 |
kenvandine | right | 16:02 |
kenvandine | search for foursquare would show friends | 16:02 |
aquarius | right. If I look for an app. | 16:02 |
aquarius | but bear in mind that, at least near the beginning, most app searches that people do will not have a result. | 16:03 |
aquarius | so people won't instinctively hit the app store for everything, like they do on iphone/android now | 16:03 |
kenvandine | yeah | 16:03 |
kenvandine | if we get reliable location support we should add foursquare by default | 16:03 |
aquarius | sweet, the maps work. | 16:04 |
sergiusens | ogra_: just nticed the gallery app in the saucy build may be the busted one | 16:05 |
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ogra_ | sergiusens, apart from that it works for you ? | 16:05 |
ogra_ | (and the other known bugs indeed) | 16:05 |
sergiusens | ogra_: yeah, was also testing the save_my_stuff thing... both f the things I used to infer from the UI are broken :-P ... network and gallery | 16:06 |
popey | fginther: when you get a chance, can you update the core apps daily ppa so that it builds for saucy as well as raring please? | 16:06 |
ogra_ | mediaplayer and sound too | 16:06 |
ogra_ | at least on the gnex | 16:06 |
popey | i just get a black screen on saucy with gallery | 16:07 |
sergiusens | ogra_: those should be fixed... so it might just need a series copy | 16:07 |
sergiusens | popey: it's the bug from last week | 16:07 |
popey | ah ok | 16:07 |
ogra_ | i wish people would just upload to saucy | 16:07 |
ogra_ | the backporting should be the copy ... not the forward port | 16:07 |
sergiusens | ogra_: we have that task centralized | 16:08 |
sergiusens | ogra_: one person flips the switch and it happens for everything | 16:08 |
ogra_ | well, if we dont switch asap we will have less time to fix saucy bugs | 16:08 |
fginther | popey, it already is, is there an issue? | 16:08 |
popey | oh! nope ☻ | 16:09 |
ogra_ | a good citizen :) | 16:10 |
sergiusens | ogra_: sound may be broken because the pulseaudio thing... | 16:10 |
ogra_ | yeah | 16:10 |
sergiusens | ogra_: we should tag a raring release and move on | 16:10 |
sergiusens | nmcli | 16:10 |
ogra_ | is there a bug filed for pulse ? | 16:10 |
ogra_ | well, phablet/network/setup shoould work too, no ? | 16:11 |
ogra_ | oops s/\//-/ | 16:11 |
sergiusens | ogra_: yeah... | 16:11 |
sergiusens | ogra_: but the polkit thing is what's broke | 16:11 |
ogra_ | ah | 16:11 |
sergiusens | ogra_: iirc, cyphermox was waiting on the container flip to fix NM | 16:12 |
ogra_ | ok | 16:12 |
ogra_ | next onmy todo :) | 16:12 |
sergiusens | ogra_: I can in the meantime create a greater nm version (whch I can later delete). | 16:12 |
sergiusens | same would apply for mountall et.al. | 16:12 |
ogra_ | just bump it minimally. esle upgraders will never get the new one | 16:13 |
sergiusens | popey: mind moving back to raring? | 16:13 |
ogra_ | mountall is fine | 16:13 |
ogra_ | we already get the PPA one by default | 16:13 |
ogra_ | i expect to have properly booting flipped image for all nexus devices by end of next week ... depending how much time UDS leaves me | 16:14 |
popey | sergiusens: sure | 16:14 |
sergiusens | ogra_: ack... although _upgraders_ is a story to be told much more in the future, was hoping these packages would be long gone by then | 16:14 |
cyphermox | sergiusens: ogra_: we have some changes w/ logind and stuff, if it's in the chroot NM can just run... | 16:14 |
ogra_ | (flipped images without running surfaceflinger though) | 16:14 |
sergiusens | popey: as soon as my saucy, save my stuff is ready, 'm going to ask you to update to that :-P | 16:14 |
popey | ok | 16:16 |
popey | how you doing save my stuff? | 16:17 |
popey | my crappy script just zips up and adb pulls the zip file off | 16:17 |
popey | https://code.launchpad.net/~popey/+junk/phablet-flash-wrapper | 16:17 |
popey | then flashes then pushes the zip back on and unzips it | 16:17 |
sergiusens | popey: I'm saving as part of the zip file :-) | 16:19 |
popey | so will it cater for someone like me who has two devices? | 16:20 |
user82 | are daily changelogs available? did not find anything good in google | 16:22 |
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pmcgowan | user82, you can find the changelog for each build up on cdimage for example http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled.changelog | 16:32 |
user82 | thanks pmcgowan | 16:32 |
Pat_PPOS | hi | 16:40 |
Pat_PPOS | network doesn't work with saucy image ? | 16:40 |
ogra_ | yeah, known issue | 16:41 |
ogra_ | gallery, network, mediaplayer and sound | 16:41 |
sergiusens | popey: pmcgowan https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/touch-preview-images/phablet-build-scripts/+merge/163338 | 16:42 |
popey | ok | 16:42 |
Pat_PPOS | saucy image seems to be more fast or fluid | 16:44 |
popey | sergiusens: so I'm running raring on this, do you want me to take some pictures and login to gmail etc to generate locat data/ | 16:44 |
popey | ? | 16:44 |
popey | before following your steps | 16:44 |
sergiusens | popey: yeah, I wrote some sort of testing instructions | 16:44 |
sergiusens | and what to expect | 16:44 |
popey | yeah, i see those, but it doesn't recommend creating data first | 16:44 |
popey | just presumes I have some | 16:45 |
ogra_ | code wise it looks fine to me | 16:45 |
sergiusens | kenvandine: can you do a copy of gallery-app from raring to saucy in daily-build-next? | 16:45 |
pmcgowan | sergiusens, so we can test that against raring I assume? | 16:45 |
sergiusens | popey: doh... when I wrote check photos taken, forgot to write, 'take photos :-) | 16:46 |
popey | ☻ | 16:46 |
sergiusens | pmcgowan: against anything actually... should just work | 16:46 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, not really | 16:46 |
sergiusens | pmcgowan: just use the image I have uploaded | 16:46 |
pmcgowan | that saveme.zip | 16:47 |
ogra_ | (on saucy i mean) | 16:47 |
sergiusens | ogra_: not sure if the question was what you had to have installed on your system or to where | 16:47 |
sergiusens | ogra_: but the image I uploaded is a saucy one ;-) | 16:47 |
ogra_ | oh | 16:48 |
sergiusens | ogra_: sans binary ;-) | 16:48 |
ogra_ | sans binary ? | 16:48 |
ogra_ | how does that work ? | 16:48 |
ogra_ | i thought the binary is the interpreter for that script language | 16:48 |
ogra_ | oh, sans binary subdir you mean | 16:49 |
* ogra_ thought update-binary | 16:49 | |
sergiusens | ogra_: lol... too much of a Friday | 16:51 |
ogra_ | heh | 16:51 |
popey | sergiusens: looks good | 17:03 |
popey | sergiusens: trying to phablet-flash back to 118 gives out of space error | 17:04 |
popey | need to tidy up /sdcard | 17:04 |
sergiusens | popey: heh... oh, that can be an issue for big homes :-/ | 17:07 |
popey | i only had 3 pictures | 17:08 |
popey | (along with all the pictures/videos we pre-install) | 17:08 |
popey | [which I'd quite like to remove] | 17:08 |
ogra_ | big pictures ? | 17:08 |
ogra_ | :) | 17:08 |
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sergiusens | ogra_: that's my weekend task... not populate messages, remove the demo stuff and create a script to add the demo content | 17:19 |
popey | be nice to optionally add the core apps and collections ppa and the meta packages inside them | 17:20 |
popey | basically.. | 17:20 |
popey | add-apt-repository -y ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/collection | 17:20 |
popey | add-apt-repository -y ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily | 17:20 |
popey | apt-get install --yes touch-collection touch-coreapps | 17:20 |
pmcgowan | popey, my run command is not enabled in qtcreator, I seem to recall this before | 17:21 |
sergiusens | popey: core_apps should be in the sources list | 17:22 |
ogra_ | yeah | 17:22 |
popey | sergiusens: sure, but we've only approved some of them to be installed by default | 17:22 |
popey | the "four C's" | 17:22 |
popey | be nice for people to be able to test the others like file manager, rss reader etc | 17:22 |
sergiusens | popey: yeah, but the sources list is already in, so no need to add-apt-repository | 17:23 |
popey | pmcgowan: the green triangle button or the CTRL+F12 button? | 17:23 |
popey | oh, okay, sorry | 17:23 |
pmcgowan | run local | 17:23 |
sergiusens | popey: we can certainly add the collections one | 17:23 |
popey | pmcgowan: i haven't seen that for a while | 17:23 |
pmcgowan | was working the other day | 17:23 |
pmcgowan | foo | 17:23 |
pmcgowan | qtc keeps crashing as well | 17:24 |
pmcgowan | bah | 17:24 |
popey | hmm | 17:24 |
popey | actually | 17:24 |
popey | i have a bunch of orphaned qtc windows | 17:24 |
popey | its definitiely unwell | 17:25 |
sergiusens | pmcgowan: latest phablet tools with bumped version is in ppa | 17:26 |
pmcgowan | sergiusens, ack | 17:27 |
pmcgowan | popey, are you running from the PPA or raring | 17:27 |
sergiusens | ogra_: other weekend task is to upgrade to saucy on the chromebook :-) | 17:27 |
pmcgowan | qtc | 17:27 |
pmcgowan | thats odd | 17:30 |
* jackcy75 greets | 17:32 | |
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jackcy75 | i got ubuntu touch developer preview running on a galaxy s3 i9300. then i wanted to test more current images. the cdimages from raring and saucy seem to install fine. but i get no output on the screen. do i have to change something on the xda developers image (ubuntu-for-i9300.zip)? | 17:35 |
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ogra_ | sergiusens, uuuh, brave | 17:37 |
sergiusens | ogra_: :-) | 17:37 |
sergiusens | jackcy75: did you build yourself? | 17:37 |
jackcy75 | no, it was accomplished by an xda developer krassewelt: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38455532 | 17:38 |
jackcy75 | based on one of the cm10.1 nighties (which work fine) | 17:38 |
popey | pmcgowan: qtcreator 2.7.0-0ubuntu4~raring1~test5 | 17:39 |
ogra_ | well, if there are changes in ubuntu it needs to be rebuild | 17:39 |
kenvandine | sergiusens, sure | 17:39 |
popey | (from the ppa) | 17:39 |
pmcgowan | popey, hmm not seeing that | 17:39 |
popey | from the ubuntu-sdk-team ppa | 17:39 |
ogra_ | jackcy75, ask him to do a fresh build (and he should do that regulary actually) | 17:39 |
sergiusens | jackcy75: well, you probably need a new hybris and platform api if it is too old... do you know if patches exist, were made avail? | 17:40 |
kenvandine | sergiusens, done | 17:41 |
jackcy75 | he has not officially submitted his work. but i could ask him to do so and/or allow me to continue his work. | 17:41 |
sergiusens | kenvandine: thanks, one more random question, can a daily build be triggered for lp:qtubuntu-sensors ? | 17:46 |
kenvandine | sure | 17:46 |
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sergiusens | jackcy75: well, you would probably need to rebuild | 17:46 |
sergiusens | kenvandine: thanks! | 17:47 |
jackcy75 | ok. i think i can figure that out *G* | 17:47 |
jackcy75 | thank you | 17:49 |
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moocow1452 | Anybody home? | 18:02 |
popey | moocow1452: sure | 18:03 |
moocow1452 | I've been building for Nook, and finally got something that isn't a black screen. | 18:03 |
popey | nice! | 18:04 |
popey | is it a white screen? ㋛ | 18:04 |
moocow1452 | Had to use the MWC build, touch screen doesn't work, and the rotation is 90 degrees off but pretty picture. | 18:04 |
kenvandine | sergiusens, qtubuntu-sensors built | 18:08 |
sergiusens | kenvandine: thanks | 18:08 |
kenvandine | np | 18:09 |
kenvandine | snwh, thanks for the icon, it looks great! | 18:10 |
snwh | kenvandine, no problem :) | 18:13 |
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ZDmitry | popey: can You help me with some question on Core Apps PPA, or should I wait for mhall119? | 18:40 |
moocow1452 | So, now that I got it displaying, anything I should do to fix the rotation issue and touch screen? | 18:42 |
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ZDmitry | I just leave what I want... popey, mhall119|away: Can someone add job for building latest konsole-qml-plugin to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily? Two days past after landing last revision, but still we have old packgage. Thanks. | 18:47 |
jackcy75 | I'm sorry to bother you again. In setting up the build environment for I9300, the command breakfast cannot be found anywhere. Is there a package that I am missing? 13.04 amd64. | 18:52 |
popey | ZDmitry: hey | 18:53 |
moocow1452 | jackcy did you . build/envsetup.sh? | 18:53 |
popey | fginther: can you help ZDmitry with autolanding konsole-qml-plugin? | 18:53 |
jackcy75 | yes, but before i had to chmod +x the envsetup.sh because it was not executable. | 18:54 |
moocow1452 | jackcy75, make sure you run it from the build folder everytime you start working with a new terminal. | 18:55 |
jackcy75 | moocow1452, do i have to run it as root? | 18:57 |
moocow1452 | Shouldn't have to. Wouldn't hurt though. | 18:57 |
jackcy75 | hm still no luck. | 18:58 |
moocow1452 | It's not a permant command, so when you open a new terminal, it loses the breakfast command until you rerun . build/envsetup.sh | 18:58 |
moocow1452 | jackcy75, can you used brunch? | 19:02 |
jackcy75 | I try to resync the build env with "phablet-dev-bootstrap -c I9300", launchpad-id activated, then changed to "cd I9300", ran "./build/envsetup.sh". It included a few *.sh. but still no luck: breakfast I9300 | 19:05 |
jackcy75 | breakfast: Befehl nicht gefunden. | 19:05 |
jackcy75 | nope, no brunch available | 19:06 |
nik90 | .n | 19:07 |
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sergiusens | epa | 19:19 |
sergiusens | oops | 19:20 |
moocow1452 | jackcy, you included the space right it's . build/envsetup.sh verbatim. | 19:46 |
fginther | popey, ZDmitry, looking | 19:54 |
ZDmitry | fginther: Can You add job for building latest konsole-qml-plugin to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily? | 19:55 |
popey | thanks fginther | 19:56 |
fginther | ZDmitry, the server that runs the jobs is currently down. I'll contact the admins and get back to you. | 20:00 |
ZDmitry | Okay, thanks a lot. | 20:01 |
feltham1983 | hey all | 20:45 |
moocow1452 | Hey feltham | 20:55 |
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