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moocow1452Anyone good with SurfaceFlinger and hwcomposer?01:04
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Jroc0912hey there. I have an evo 4g lte and a toshiba thrive that I would love to have running Ubuntu. I have rummaged through countless forums today and all posts about it has seemed to stop over a month ago. Does anybody know if there has been any progress on these devices or when I will be able to get a fully functional Ubuntu up and running on them01:51
Jroc0912ugh guess not. Thanks for being helpful01:56
Mirvkenvandine: xembed patch is in the 5.0.2 qtbase package03:55
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Mirvrenato_: did you see your commit comments in gerrit? since it wouldn't be acceptable as is, I think I'll remove the patch from our qtpim as well for now until a solution acceptable to upstream is found06:14
chriadamwhich QtPim backend are you using, out of interest?  An updated version of the syncevolution one?  Or something else?06:17
Mirvchriadam: just packaging a snapshot from https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtpim, nothing else06:20
chriadamMirv: ah ok06:20
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oSoMoNmardy_: hey, I filed bug #1178552 to follow up on bug #1177964, could you please confirm it?09:50
ubot5bug 1178552 in webbrowser-app "Need separate packages for the plugin and the app" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117855209:50
ubot5bug 1177964 in Online Accounts: Sign-on UI "signon-ui in ubuntu-touch should use Ubuntu.Browser plugin" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117796409:50
mardy_oSoMoN: yep, looks good09:51
oSoMoNmardy_: so, could you please set the status to 'Confirmed'?09:53
mardy_oSoMoN: ops, done09:54
oSoMoNthx09:55
oSoMoNmardy_: could you please also confirm bug #1178601 ?10:02
ubot5bug 1178601 in webbrowser-app "Need to expose 'url' and 'loading' properties on the Browser component" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117860110:02
mardy_oSoMoN: done, thanks10:02
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tux1986hello everybody11:58
tux1986does somebody know wether the adb tools found the nexus that run with ubuntu 13.04 or something like that or only if adnroid on the nexus?12:01
tux1986i want to run ubuntu touch on nexus 7 and adb did not found the device with running ubuntu 13.04 on it12:02
ogra_there is no adb ... its the desktop install ...12:02
ogra_boot into recovery mode and use the manual install method described on the touch install wiki12:03
tux1986it used adb on the desktop too if see write12:04
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tux1986i have installed ubuntu 13.04 installed on the nexus 7 and want to install ubuntu touch like the wiki says and it failed at 'adb devices' with device not found12:10
ogra_there is no adb ... its the desktop install ...12:25
ogra_boot into recovery mode and use the manual install method described on the touch install wiki12:25
ogra_(see, i can repeat my answers as well ... )12:26
tux1986i do it like you says ogra i change the nexus in recovery mode and run adb push on the desktop12:29
ogra_good12:30
tux1986it says device not found12:30
ogra_adb says that ?12:30
ogra_works here12:30
ogra_did you do all the preparation stuff described higher above in the wiki ?12:31
ogra_(adb restart=server etc)12:31
ogra_s/=/-/12:31
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tux1986ok some restarts latter  adb devices displays me the device and adb push is running12:37
ogra_great :)12:38
tux1986adb is running and display no output is it right?12:38
ogra_for the armhf zip ?12:39
ogra_its quite big, it takes a while ...12:39
tux1986who long does it run?12:40
ogra_10min or so12:40
tux1986ok i wait a while ;)12:40
ogra_the armel grouper zip is surely faster :)12:41
tux1986i run http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip12:42
ogra_(make sure you do both zips in the right order, that is very important)12:42
ogra_(like the wiki describes)12:43
user82does someone have ubuntu touch on a nexus 4? for me it was really really laggy, especially in the dropdown menu. is that normal?12:44
ogra_many do ...12:45
ogra_and it should not be laggy on the n4 at all12:45
ogra_sounds like you found some bug12:45
user82oh too bad. for me it was quite laggy in the dropdown menus. unusable i would say12:45
sergiusensactually depends on the device... but 10 min is a got average for the slowest one12:45
user82maybe i test a daily "end of may" again12:45
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pmcgowanuser82, sounds like there must be something eating up you cpu, can you check top and the logs12:57
pmcgowanuser82, it should no appear at all slow12:57
user82ok thanks pmcgowan12:57
user82i flashed back my android but if the problem persists with the first 3g rom(where i will start using ubuntu) i will look into it12:57
pmcgowanok12:58
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* ogra_ really wonders hwy the saucy zip is so much smaller than the raring one13:02
ogra_s/hwy/why/13:02
pmcgowanogra_, have you diffed the manifests?13:03
ogra_not yet13:03
ogra_its 495 vs 524M13:03
ogra_waiting for the first fully automated build in 2h13:03
pmcgowanmaybe all those double versions were cleaned up13:03
ogra_my test of the last saucy image didnt really show any nis-function13:04
pmcgowanyep13:04
ogra_*mis13:04
pmcgowanalso, I think we just dropped python2.713:04
ogra_but then that was on friday .... and yesyerdays build was having Qt issues13:04
ogra_in about 2h there should be a working build i will test13:04
pmcgowancool13:05
ogra_at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/  btw13:05
pmcgowanogra_, aha we drop the preview and so its real13:20
ogra_yeah13:21
Mirvboiko: hi, you probably noticed the bug reports and e-mails. phone-app / qt pim should all work now again, but it'd be nice if you rechecked13:21
boikoMirv: nice! thanks for looking into that13:21
ogra_it still uses a gross hack to produce the zip from the tarball ...13:21
ogra_until we have a bionic cross toolcahin in the archive13:21
pmcgowanok13:21
pmcgowando you have an alternate settings to use it with p-f?13:22
pmcgowanogra_, ^^13:22
ogra_nope13:22
ogra_we should just switch the default once we know its safe13:23
pmcgowanjust thought it would make it easier to get more testing, let me look13:23
ogra_until we do, i would call it experimental enough that people can just use the manual method13:23
ogra_do a normal p-f with the latest ... then adb push the saucy zip to autodeploy.zip and reboot recovery ....13:24
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pmcgowanogra_, I am too lazy for that, I have an alternate settings already13:26
ogra_well, p-f would need some changes until we start shipping tteh android bits in ubuntu-touch/ anyway13:26
ogra_which again hangs on the bionic toolchain13:27
pmcgowanogra_, oh you dont have the android stuff there at all13:27
ogra_(like most other image realted stuff)13:27
pmcgowanwhats the diff between phablet and touch zips13:27
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ogra_you mean the android layer ?13:28
ogra_there is none, we dont produce android stuff in saucy at all yet13:28
pmcgowanso we cant really switch until thats done13:28
sergiusensMirv: I approved your sensors MR13:28
ogra_we can ... by using the android zips we have from jenkins13:29
Mirvsergiusens: thanks. 2 down, 1 to go (qtwebkit)13:29
ogra_the resulting zip should be the same either way13:29
sergiusensogra_: pmcgowan difference is what is in ppa:phablet-team13:29
pmcgowanogra_, so the current dir will look the same, just manually copy them to it13:29
ogra_and i could just sync into ubuntu-touch/13:29
ogra_sergiusens, on the android layer ?13:30
pmcgowanogra_, I was asking the diff between phablet.zip and touch.zip13:30
sergiusensogra_: is network manager fixed?13:30
ogra_sergiusens, nope13:30
ogra_i dont think there were any fixes at all since last friday13:30
ogra_apart from me working on image building13:30
ogra_cyphermox,  ^^^ is merging NM on your TODO ?13:31
pmcgowando we have a hitlist of things to do before saucy transition13:31
sergiusensogra_: so what I'm saying is, if hybris changes today, the android layer will change but saucy won't (ppa:phablet-team)13:31
user82pmcgowan, i do not know the details but is it completely impossible to include dalvikvm in ubuntu touch? licence or tech wise?13:31
ogra_pmcgowan, phablet.zip vs touch.zip is differing in the underlying system ... beyond that they use the same PPAs (until finally everyone starts uploading too saucy instead of PPAs13:32
ogra_)13:32
sergiusensuser82: you can do it tech wise, but it's not the focus13:32
user82ok sergiusens13:32
pmcgowanuser82, tech wise no, license would also be ok but would cause other issues for manufacturers13:32
ogra_sergiusens, oh, could you copy that to saucy then ?13:32
user82ok13:32
pmcgowanalso dalvik is just the VM, you ned to look into the runtime deps13:33
pmcgowanso its a big thing tech qise13:33
pmcgowanwise13:33
user82allright thanks. do not really miss it once the basic apps are complete more a question of personal interest13:33
sergiusensogra_: it hasn't changed yet ;-)13:33
ogra_sergiusens, oops, missed the "if" :)13:33
pmcgowanogra_, I didnt understand the last answer, I see a touch_armhf.tar.gz and a phablet_armhf.zip13:34
sergiusensogra_: but those should land for saucy if they change eventually13:34
pmcgowanwhy two things13:34
sergiusensogra_: the META-INF, is it the same one from raring or did you fork it?13:34
ogra_pmcgowan, oops, thanks ! ... typo in my evil script !13:34
ogra_sergiusens, i had to fork it minimally ...13:35
pmcgowanogra_, sergiusens I think we have a session next week to review the transition and ensure we have all the pre-requisite steps13:35
mibofraoi ciao :))13:35
pmcgowanis that true?13:35
sergiusensif it's not there we should!13:35
pmcgowanright, we need to do the blueprint today if its not there13:35
sergiusensogra_: was that in the list of BPs you were going to setup?13:35
mibofraops sorry XD13:35
mibofraI've changed channel guys XD13:36
ogra_sergiusens, nope, just raw hackery yet...13:36
ogra_sergiusens, run_program("/sbin/mv", "/data/ubuntu_tmp_extract", "/data/ubuntu");13:36
ogra_in updater-script13:36
ogra_the official tarballs dont have a "binary" toplevel dir, just /13:36
ogra_pmcgowan, phablet vs touch fixed ... the new build should come out at preinstalled-touch like it should13:39
ogra_s/at/as/13:39
pmcgowanogra_, ok13:39
jhodappsergiusens, the sensor MR worked for you? Did you build your own package and install it to the target?13:39
sergiusensjhodapp: hey, just say you claimed the review13:39
pmcgowanogra_, can you make a bp for the saucy image work13:40
sergiusensjhodapp: I already Happroved, we can switch back13:40
sergiusensjhodapp: well I fixed the build, then used the deb that came out of jenkins13:40
jhodappsergiusens, no that's ok, if you got it to work then it must be working...I don't know why it didn't work for me13:40
sergiusensjhodapp: seem my comment :-)13:40
ogra_pmcgowan, on my TODO already ... just didnt register it yet13:40
pmcgowanvg thanks13:40
sergiusensjhodapp: tried on maguro, and can try on manta as well if it makes sense13:40
pmcgowansergiusens, will we spin a new raring build this morning?13:40
jhodappsergiusens, couldn't hurt to try it on manta13:41
sergiusenspmcgowan: the webkit bug isnt' fixed yet... and the sensors was just looked at today... so it would be broken13:41
jhodappsergiusens, what build # did you try this on?13:41
sergiusensjhodapp: 11913:42
sergiusensjhodapp: my manta has 118 with a dist-upgrade I did to track down the issue... I'll test there too13:42
jhodappsergiusens, ok, leave it as approved then...my setup must be funny then13:42
sergiusensjhodapp: nah, pulling out the manta :-)13:43
ogra_wasnt 119 broken ?13:43
ogra_(due to Qt)13:44
ogra_sergiusens, btw, tell me once i can enable syncing again, i see colin switched it off13:44
Mirvjhodapp: I tried the sensors on a mako13:45
sergiusensogra_: yeah 119 is broken13:45
jhodappMirv, works ok?13:45
Mirvjhodapp: yes, I wouldn't have submitted the merge proposal otherwise :)13:45
jhodappMirv, do you have a galaxy nexus?13:45
Mirvjhodapp: I did notice your supplied qtsensors.qml used the dummy output unless I disabled that plugin, but it gave the "Registered..." text in all cases and all apps worked13:46
sergiusensMirv: jhodapp works fine on manta as well13:46
Mirvjhodapp: unfortunately not13:46
jhodappsergiusens, awesome, thanks13:46
Mirvsergiusens: ok, thanks13:46
jhodappMirv, hmm ok, you should probably see about getting one since that's our primary target atm.13:46
ogra_++13:47
sergiusensjhodapp: I won't Happrove since I see you added Needs Fixing ;-)13:47
ogra_they are hard to get though ...13:48
sergiusensjhodapp: you can download the deb from the MR btw13:48
jhodappsergiusens, now you can Happrove13:48
sergiusensjhodapp: maguro is the target, but not everyone is going to have one as you can't buy them anymore13:48
pmcgowanjhodapp, we have 4 reference designs, not everyone can have all of them13:49
jhodappsergiusens, oh really, hmm13:49
pmcgowannexus is mainly prime for devs since its the lowest capability13:49
sergiusenspmcgowan: they are all nexus ;-)13:49
pmcgowanindeed13:49
jhodapppmcgowan, makes sense...I though Mirv might want one for testing out the performance of new Qt versions on low-end hardware13:49
Mirvjhodapp: before last week I didn't have any device, so I'm happy I have at least one device. my arm Qt building is also doable with that in case needed.13:49
pmcgowanjhodapp, I think some others can do that13:50
jhodappright13:50
sergiusensMirv: so what's the issue with qtwebkit and the patch not applying?13:50
ogra_jhodapp, thats why we have a QA team ;)13:53
ogra_we need to make more use of them13:54
Mirvsergiusens: if you take  lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtwebkit-opensource-src , and try to apply the add_experimentalDevicePixelRatio.patch as it was until bzr26 in that branch on top of Qt 5.0.2, it fails13:54
jhodappogra_, QA team, what's that? ;p13:54
ogra_as soon as the word "test" comes up in a sentence it should scream QA to you ;)13:54
Mirvsergiusens: so I modified the patch to apply, see bzr diff -r 26..27, and the first thought would be that I modified it wrong and that's why it doesn't work. the other option is that something else changed in qtwebkit 5.0.213:54
cyphermoxogra_: yes, it is14:03
ogra_ah, cool, so the saucy image should work then14:04
sergiusensogra_: cyphermox in the TODO or done?14:10
ogra_oh, heh14:11
* ogra_ was assuming a yes to the merge :) not to the list addition14:11
cyphermoxogra_: in todo14:11
ogra_k14:11
cyphermoxI can't just take the patches that were on raring/quantal for touch, they're not right for desktop14:12
cyphermoxwhere can I try the saucy image?14:13
ogra_soon from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/14:13
ogra_the 20130510/ image should start being usable14:13
ogra_(i hope)14:14
ogra_cdimage should spit it out within the next hour14:14
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jmanuel_coolhi14:33
jmanuel_coolsomeone speak spanish?????14:33
ogra_people in spain do ... i heard14:34
jmanuel_coolok, can i install ubuntu touch on my huawei UM840???14:34
ogra_check the devices wikipage14:35
jmanuel_cooli was reading wiki, but can't find this hardware14:35
ogra_!devices | jmanuel_cool14:35
ubot5jmanuel_cool: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices14:35
ogra_if it isnt there you can do a port (or try to find somebody to do it for you)14:35
jmanuel_coolthank ogra_14:35
ogra_!porting | jmanuel_cool14:35
ogra_!ports | jmanuel_cool14:36
ubot5jmanuel_cool: For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall14:36
ogra_bah14:36
ogra_popey, dont we have a command for the ports page ?14:36
jmanuel_coologra_: that's sound cool, but i'm not programmer :'C14:36
ogra_(teh porting link is in the channel topic btw)14:37
jmanuel_coologra_: i find this device https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/u8815 << which is similar (but not equal) hardware, but wikipage is empty14:38
* jmanuel_cool apologize for his worst english14:38
ogra_i can understand you ... so your english is good enough :)14:39
ogra_the page has links in the top table14:39
popeyogra_: dont think so14:39
jmanuel_coologra_: i'm reading links, but job can be rude14:41
jmanuel_coolwell, i have other smartphone like mine, but the touch screen is broken (image can be displayed, but "tactil" don't work), i think to try with this14:43
popeyogra_: is ubuntu_stamp going to move at some point?14:44
popeyhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/ubuntu_stamp will be somewhere else?14:44
ogra_its a jenkins thing14:44
popeyI mean, the directory structure is changing?14:45
popeys/-preview// ?14:45
ogra_if we dont use jenkins, the cdimage dir and .disk/info files are your stamp as on every other ubuntu install14:45
ogra_right, cdimage buiulds should not have the -preview anymore14:46
popeyhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ubuntu_stamp is missing because the build was done manually, not via jenkins?14:46
popey(I want to monitor that file so I know when a new build is done)14:46
jmanuel_coolok, another question, ¿what environment this use? ¿can i use other? like e16/1714:46
ogra_popey, not manually, via a proper buildsystem :)14:46
popeymeow14:47
popey14:47
ogra_jmanuel_cool, no, there is no Xorg on the images, so you can not use any apps that use X14:47
jmanuel_coologra_: ??????14:48
ogra_jmanuel_cool, ubuntu-touch does not use X14:48
jmanuel_coologra_: why?????14:48
jmanuel_coologra_: >> http://g300.thebronasium.com/screenshots/ubuntu/device-2013-02-27-211800_thumb.png << it's a joke?????14:49
ogra_because it will use Mir (and currently uses androids SurfaceFlinger) as display server14:49
ogra_no, thats how ubuntu-touch looks like14:49
popeyif you're looking at it from a far away..14:50
ogra_but it does use its own display server, X applications do not run14:50
Mirv(yet)14:51
jmanuel_coologra_: ok, now i understand14:52
jmanuel_coologra_: porting link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting14:52
ogra_popey, wget -q -O - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/| html2text |grep " 2013"|tail -1|cut -d" " -f214:53
ogra_should work until end of the year :)14:54
popeyhah14:54
popeythanks14:54
ogra_(can surely be cleaner, thats just a quick and dirty one)14:54
popeyare we moving away from build numbers to build dates?14:55
ogra_we are moving towards the generic build system14:55
popeyhm14:56
ogra_which does "$datestamp.$sequence"14:56
ogra_(mitting .$sequence if $sequence is empty)14:56
ogra_*omitting14:56
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sergiusensMirv: do you mind removing the current qtwebkit build? I copied the ~test3 one to phablet-team just in case... if so we can re enable the builds and fix this in parallel15:04
* jmanuel_cool downloading everything for flash his device15:17
sergiusensogra_: pmcgowan I compared the manifests, packagewise, usb and consolekit are the only removals I can quickly see15:18
ogra_usb ?15:18
sergiusensogra_: libgusb2:armhf 0.1.5-0ubuntu1 and  libusb-1.0-0:armhf 2:1.0.12-2ubuntu115:19
ogra_ah15:20
ogra_yeah that switches to 2.0 afaik15:20
ogra_and CK is dead and gone15:20
sergiusensyup, still wouldn't explain the big image15:21
ogra_not really15:21
ogra_i mean, binaries might be smaller due to gcc 4.8 .... but not to that extend15:21
sergiusensunless it's a livebuild thing...15:21
popeycompression level?15:22
ogra_we use -9 on cdimage15:22
ogra_-9 --rsyncable actually15:22
ogra_(for gziping the tarball)15:22
smagsterback to the X11 ?....so is anyone working on it for ubuntu-touch15:27
ogra_ask in #ubuntu-mir15:28
ogra_but i doubt its in the focus15:28
ogra_(thats rather a 14.04 task)15:28
* ogra_ would appreciate if people with other nexus devices could test the zip from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/15:37
Mirvsergiusens: I wouldn't remove it unless the old version is known to work with newer qt.. the version mismatch complaints (can't mix 5.0.1 with 5.0.2) come up often15:39
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kenvandineaquarius, i took your maps patch and proposed it for you https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/friends-app/maps/+merge/16333215:40
kenvandine:)15:41
* ogra_ kind of has the feeling that saucy is way more responsive15:41
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aquariushey kenvandine, sorry, I haven't had time to look at it :(15:41
ogra_but that might be a subjective impression or just wishful thinking15:41
pmcgowanogra_, gcc enhancements?15:41
ogra_probably15:41
ogra_try it :)15:41
kenvandineaquarius, mind giving it a review?  i also tweaked some labels to make the location name look like it is a button15:42
ogra_no networking though15:42
kenvandineaquarius, no worries :)15:42
pmcgowanogra_, no networking!15:42
ogra_nope15:42
ogra_it uses network-manager from the archive which doesnt have the patches yet15:42
aquariuskenvandine, I did note that dropping letters now doesn't have any music on my desktop, presumably because the phone can't do music?15:42
kenvandineaquarius, right15:43
kenvandinei couldn't figure out how to make it fail gracefully15:43
kenvandineinstead of crashing15:43
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Mirvsergiusens: tested downgrading quickly and webrowser-app continues to work, so removed for now (a copy is still in qt5-beta-proper). I do have a memory that qtwebkit didn't appear to have the version clash problem at some point earlier, so maybe it just works.15:45
Mirvsergiusens: if the webkit 5.0.2 is needed back, it can be copied15:45
sergiusensMirv: ok, if we need it, we will need it with the webkit fix15:46
sergiusens*DPR fix15:46
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popeyogra_: got intructions for manually installing those files on a nexus 4? I only ever use phablet-flash ☻15:48
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ogra_popey, boot into recovery ... adb push /path/to/saucy/zip /sdcard/autodeploy.zip; adb reboot recovery15:49
aquariuskenvandine, did the thing that meant that no posts had locations get fixed? that's why I didn't submit the branch before15:50
popeyogra_: ta15:50
ogra_works also without recovery but i dont know if the mapping of /sdcard is the same on the n415:50
kenvandinei had a handful from facebook15:50
popeyogra_: no need for the tgz?15:50
ogra_nope15:50
kenvandineand of course foursquare all had them15:50
popeyk15:50
ogra_just the zip15:50
kenvandineaquarius, so i tested it15:50
aquariuskenvandine, aah, that was it. I only use twitter, and twitter locations weren't showing up, so I couldn't test it properly15:50
kenvandineaquarius, for an easy way to test it, i removed all my other accounts15:51
kenvandineand just left foursquare :)15:51
aquariuskenvandine, which also means that I can't meaningfully review it, though :(15:51
aquariuss'pose I could just add a foursquare account, couldn't i?15:51
kenvandinehehe :)15:51
kenvandineyeah15:51
kenvandineif you remove your twitter account, the rows will get purged from the model15:51
kenvandineso you can then get a feed of just foursquare15:52
kenvandinejust for testing15:52
aquariuskenvandine, oi! it doesn't *do* foursquare.15:56
kenvandine?15:57
aquariusI have no option in online accounts to add a foursquare account.15:57
kenvandinefriends-foursquare15:57
kenvandineinstall that15:57
kenvandinewhich should pull in account-plugin-foursquare15:57
aquariusoh15:57
aquariusheh15:57
aquariusfriends doesn't depend on all its account types?15:58
kenvandineit does15:58
kenvandinethe plugins do15:58
kenvandineyou didn't have friends-foursquare installed15:58
aquariusbut friends itself doesn't depend on all its plugins?15:58
aquariushow would I know that friends-foursquare existed?15:58
kenvandinenope15:58
kenvandinesoftware center :)15:58
kenvandineit suggests them all15:58
aquariusya, but friends is gonna be default, right?15:59
kenvandineyeah15:59
kenvandineon twitter and facebook are in main15:59
kenvandinedifferent level of support15:59
aquariusat that point, either we should also ship all the plugins, or there should be some way of alerting the user that they can add foursquare, I think15:59
aquariusoh, we don't *want* people to add other plugins unless they know what they're doing?15:59
kenvandinewell, i want them to16:00
kenvandinebut we don't necessarily want to have to support everything plugin anyone contributes16:00
kenvandinewe want to make sure it is well maintained16:00
kenvandinefoursquare is though16:00
kenvandinewe should come up with a way to make that more discoverable16:01
aquariusI have to actually remove my twitter account? I can't just block friends from accessing it?16:01
kenvandinebut, if someone knows they want foursquare, they'll look in software center and see it's available16:01
kenvandineoh16:01
kenvandineyou can probably just block it16:01
kenvandineif not... that's a bug :)16:01
aquariusdisagree completely. It never would have occurred to me that Ubuntu even knows about foursquare.16:02
aquariusnow, you can argue that my first thing would be to search for a foursquare app, and then I discover the Ubutnu foursquare integration...16:02
kenvandineaquarius, how would you install foursquare on your iphone?16:02
kenvandineright16:02
kenvandinesearch for foursquare would show friends16:02
aquariusright. If I look for an app.16:02
aquariusbut bear in mind that, at least near the beginning, most app searches that people do will not have a result.16:03
aquariusso people won't instinctively hit the app store for everything, like they do on iphone/android now16:03
kenvandineyeah16:03
kenvandineif we get reliable location support we should add foursquare by default16:03
aquariussweet, the maps work.16:04
sergiusensogra_: just nticed the gallery app in the saucy build may be the busted one16:05
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ogra_sergiusens, apart from that it works for you ?16:05
ogra_(and the other known bugs indeed)16:05
sergiusensogra_: yeah, was also testing the save_my_stuff thing... both f the things I used to infer from the UI are broken :-P ... network and gallery16:06
popeyfginther: when you get a chance, can you update the core apps daily ppa so that it builds for saucy as well as raring please?16:06
ogra_mediaplayer and sound too16:06
ogra_at least on the gnex16:06
popeyi just get a black screen on saucy with gallery16:07
sergiusensogra_: those should be fixed... so it might just need a series copy16:07
sergiusenspopey: it's the bug from last week16:07
popeyah ok16:07
ogra_i wish people would just upload to saucy16:07
ogra_the backporting should be the copy ... not the forward port16:07
sergiusensogra_: we have that task centralized16:08
sergiusensogra_: one person flips the switch and it happens for everything16:08
ogra_well, if we dont switch asap we will have less time to fix saucy bugs16:08
fgintherpopey, it already is, is there an issue?16:08
popeyoh! nope ☻16:09
ogra_a good citizen :)16:10
sergiusensogra_: sound may be broken because the pulseaudio thing...16:10
ogra_yeah16:10
sergiusensogra_: we should tag a raring release and move on16:10
sergiusensnmcli16:10
ogra_is there a bug filed for pulse ?16:10
ogra_well, phablet/network/setup shoould work too, no ?16:11
ogra_oops s/\//-/16:11
sergiusensogra_: yeah...16:11
sergiusensogra_: but the polkit thing is what's broke16:11
ogra_ah16:11
sergiusensogra_: iirc, cyphermox was waiting on the container flip to fix NM16:12
ogra_ok16:12
ogra_next onmy todo :)16:12
sergiusensogra_: I can in the meantime create a greater nm version (whch I can later delete).16:12
sergiusenssame would apply for mountall et.al.16:12
ogra_just bump it minimally. esle upgraders will never get the new one16:13
sergiusenspopey: mind moving back to raring?16:13
ogra_mountall is fine16:13
ogra_we already get the PPA one by default16:13
ogra_i expect to have properly booting flipped image for all nexus devices by end of next week ... depending how much time UDS leaves me16:14
popeysergiusens: sure16:14
sergiusensogra_: ack... although _upgraders_ is a story to be told much more in the future, was hoping these packages would be long gone by then16:14
cyphermoxsergiusens: ogra_: we have some changes w/ logind and stuff, if it's in the chroot NM can just run...16:14
ogra_(flipped images without running surfaceflinger though)16:14
sergiusenspopey: as soon as my saucy, save my stuff is ready, 'm going to ask you to update to that :-P16:14
popeyok16:16
popeyhow you doing save my stuff?16:17
popeymy crappy script just zips up and adb pulls the zip file off16:17
popeyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~popey/+junk/phablet-flash-wrapper16:17
popeythen flashes then pushes the zip back on and unzips it16:17
sergiusenspopey: I'm saving as part of the zip file :-)16:19
popeyso will it cater for someone like me who has two devices?16:20
user82are daily changelogs available? did not find anything good in google16:22
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pmcgowanuser82, you can find the changelog for each build up on cdimage for example http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled.changelog16:32
user82thanks pmcgowan16:32
Pat_PPOShi16:40
Pat_PPOSnetwork doesn't work with saucy image ?16:40
ogra_yeah, known issue16:41
ogra_gallery, network, mediaplayer and sound16:41
sergiusenspopey: pmcgowan https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/touch-preview-images/phablet-build-scripts/+merge/16333816:42
popeyok16:42
Pat_PPOSsaucy image seems to be more fast or fluid16:44
popeysergiusens: so I'm running raring on this, do you want me to take some pictures and login to gmail etc to generate locat data/16:44
popey?16:44
popeybefore following your steps16:44
sergiusenspopey: yeah, I wrote some sort of testing instructions16:44
sergiusensand what to expect16:44
popeyyeah, i see those, but it doesn't recommend creating data first16:44
popeyjust presumes I have some16:45
ogra_code wise it looks fine to me16:45
sergiusenskenvandine: can you do a copy of gallery-app from raring to saucy in daily-build-next?16:45
pmcgowansergiusens, so we can test that against raring I assume?16:45
sergiusenspopey: doh... when I wrote check photos taken, forgot to write, 'take photos :-)16:46
popey16:46
sergiusenspmcgowan: against anything actually... should just work16:46
ogra_sergiusens, not really16:46
sergiusenspmcgowan: just use the image I have uploaded16:46
pmcgowanthat saveme.zip16:47
ogra_(on saucy i mean)16:47
sergiusensogra_: not sure if the question was what you had to have installed on your system or to where16:47
sergiusensogra_: but the image I uploaded is a saucy one ;-)16:47
ogra_oh16:48
sergiusensogra_: sans binary ;-)16:48
ogra_sans binary ?16:48
ogra_how does that work ?16:48
ogra_i thought the binary is the interpreter for that script language16:48
ogra_oh, sans binary subdir you mean16:49
* ogra_ thought update-binary16:49
sergiusensogra_: lol... too much of a Friday16:51
ogra_heh16:51
popeysergiusens: looks good17:03
popeysergiusens: trying to phablet-flash back to 118 gives out of space error17:04
popeyneed to tidy up /sdcard17:04
sergiusenspopey: heh... oh, that can be an issue for big homes :-/17:07
popeyi only had 3 pictures17:08
popey(along with all the pictures/videos we pre-install)17:08
popey[which I'd quite like to remove]17:08
ogra_big pictures ?17:08
ogra_:)17:08
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sergiusensogra_: that's my weekend task... not populate messages, remove the demo stuff and create a script to add the demo content17:19
popeybe nice to optionally add the core apps and collections ppa and the meta packages inside them17:20
popeybasically..17:20
popeyadd-apt-repository -y ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/collection17:20
popeyadd-apt-repository -y ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily17:20
popeyapt-get install --yes touch-collection touch-coreapps17:20
pmcgowanpopey, my run command is not enabled in qtcreator, I seem to recall this before17:21
sergiusenspopey: core_apps should be in the sources list17:22
ogra_yeah17:22
popeysergiusens: sure, but we've only approved some of them to be installed by default17:22
popeythe "four C's"17:22
popeybe nice for people to be able to test the others like file manager, rss reader etc17:22
sergiusenspopey: yeah, but the sources list is already in, so no need to add-apt-repository17:23
popeypmcgowan: the green triangle button or the CTRL+F12 button?17:23
popeyoh, okay, sorry17:23
pmcgowanrun local17:23
sergiusenspopey: we can certainly add the collections one17:23
popeypmcgowan: i haven't seen that for a while17:23
pmcgowanwas working the other day17:23
pmcgowanfoo17:23
pmcgowanqtc keeps crashing as well17:24
pmcgowanbah17:24
popeyhmm17:24
popeyactually17:24
popeyi have a bunch of orphaned qtc windows17:24
popeyits definitiely unwell17:25
sergiusenspmcgowan: latest phablet tools with bumped version is in ppa17:26
pmcgowansergiusens, ack17:27
pmcgowanpopey, are you running from the PPA or raring17:27
sergiusensogra_: other weekend task is to upgrade to saucy on the chromebook :-)17:27
pmcgowanqtc17:27
pmcgowanthats odd17:30
* jackcy75 greets 17:32
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jackcy75i got ubuntu touch developer preview running on a galaxy s3 i9300. then i wanted to test more current images. the cdimages from raring and saucy seem to install fine. but i get no output on the screen. do i have to change something on the xda developers image (ubuntu-for-i9300.zip)?17:35
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ogra_sergiusens, uuuh, brave17:37
sergiusensogra_: :-)17:37
sergiusensjackcy75: did you build yourself?17:37
jackcy75no, it was accomplished by an xda developer krassewelt: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3845553217:38
jackcy75based on one of the cm10.1 nighties (which work fine)17:38
popeypmcgowan: qtcreator  2.7.0-0ubuntu4~raring1~test517:39
ogra_well, if there are changes in ubuntu it needs to be rebuild17:39
kenvandinesergiusens, sure17:39
popey(from the ppa)17:39
pmcgowanpopey, hmm not seeing that17:39
popeyfrom the ubuntu-sdk-team ppa17:39
ogra_jackcy75, ask him to do a fresh build (and he should do that regulary actually)17:39
sergiusensjackcy75: well, you probably need a new hybris and platform api if it is too old... do you know if patches exist, were made avail?17:40
kenvandinesergiusens, done17:41
jackcy75he has not officially submitted his work. but i could ask him to do so and/or allow me to continue his work.17:41
sergiusenskenvandine: thanks, one more random question, can a daily build be triggered for lp:qtubuntu-sensors ?17:46
kenvandinesure17:46
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sergiusensjackcy75: well, you would probably need to rebuild17:46
sergiusenskenvandine: thanks!17:47
jackcy75ok. i think i can figure that out *G*17:47
jackcy75thank you17:49
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moocow1452Anybody home?18:02
popeymoocow1452: sure18:03
moocow1452I've been building for Nook, and finally got something that isn't a black screen.18:03
popeynice!18:04
popeyis it a white screen? ㋛18:04
moocow1452Had to use the MWC build, touch screen doesn't work, and the rotation is 90 degrees off but pretty picture.18:04
kenvandinesergiusens, qtubuntu-sensors built18:08
sergiusenskenvandine: thanks18:08
kenvandinenp18:09
kenvandinesnwh, thanks for the icon, it looks great!18:10
snwhkenvandine, no problem :)18:13
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ZDmitrypopey: can You help me with some question on Core Apps PPA, or should I wait for mhall119?18:40
moocow1452So, now that I got it displaying, anything I should do to fix the rotation issue and touch screen?18:42
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ZDmitryI just leave what I want... popey, mhall119|away: Can someone add job for building latest konsole-qml-plugin to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily? Two days past after landing last revision, but still we have old packgage. Thanks.18:47
jackcy75I'm sorry to bother you again. In setting up the build environment for I9300, the command breakfast cannot be found anywhere. Is there a package that I am missing? 13.04 amd64.18:52
popeyZDmitry: hey18:53
moocow1452jackcy did you . build/envsetup.sh?18:53
popeyfginther: can you help ZDmitry with autolanding konsole-qml-plugin?18:53
jackcy75yes, but before i had to chmod +x the envsetup.sh because it was not executable.18:54
moocow1452jackcy75, make sure you run it from the build folder everytime you start working with a new terminal.18:55
jackcy75moocow1452, do i have to run it as root?18:57
moocow1452Shouldn't have to. Wouldn't hurt though.18:57
jackcy75hm  still no luck.18:58
moocow1452It's not a permant command, so when you open a new terminal, it loses the breakfast command until you rerun . build/envsetup.sh18:58
moocow1452jackcy75, can you used brunch?19:02
jackcy75I try to resync the build env with "phablet-dev-bootstrap -c I9300", launchpad-id activated, then changed to "cd I9300", ran "./build/envsetup.sh". It included a few *.sh.  but still no luck: breakfast I930019:05
jackcy75breakfast: Befehl nicht gefunden.19:05
jackcy75nope, no brunch available19:06
nik90.n19:07
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sergiusensepa19:19
sergiusensoops19:20
moocow1452jackcy, you included the space right it's . build/envsetup.sh verbatim.19:46
fgintherpopey, ZDmitry, looking19:54
ZDmitryfginther:  Can You add job for building latest konsole-qml-plugin to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily?19:55
popeythanks fginther19:56
fgintherZDmitry, the server that runs the jobs is currently down. I'll contact the admins and get back to you.20:00
ZDmitryOkay, thanks a lot.20:01
feltham1983hey all20:45
moocow1452Hey feltham20:55
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