=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [01:04] Anyone good with SurfaceFlinger and hwcomposer? === Kurlon_ is now known as Kurlon [01:51] hey there. I have an evo 4g lte and a toshiba thrive that I would love to have running Ubuntu. I have rummaged through countless forums today and all posts about it has seemed to stop over a month ago. Does anybody know if there has been any progress on these devices or when I will be able to get a fully functional Ubuntu up and running on them [01:56] ugh guess not. Thanks for being helpful [03:55] kenvandine: xembed patch is in the 5.0.2 qtbase package === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [06:14] renato_: did you see your commit comments in gerrit? since it wouldn't be acceptable as is, I think I'll remove the patch from our qtpim as well for now until a solution acceptable to upstream is found [06:17] which QtPim backend are you using, out of interest? An updated version of the syncevolution one? Or something else? [06:20] chriadam: just packaging a snapshot from https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtpim, nothing else [06:20] Mirv: ah ok === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [07:36] morning === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === zequence_ is now known as zequence === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr === mmrazik_ is now known as mmrazik|afk [09:50] mardy_: hey, I filed bug #1178552 to follow up on bug #1177964, could you please confirm it? [09:50] bug 1178552 in webbrowser-app "Need separate packages for the plugin and the app" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1178552 [09:50] bug 1177964 in Online Accounts: Sign-on UI "signon-ui in ubuntu-touch should use Ubuntu.Browser plugin" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1177964 [09:51] oSoMoN: yep, looks good [09:53] mardy_: so, could you please set the status to 'Confirmed'? [09:54] oSoMoN: ops, done [09:55] thx [10:02] mardy_: could you please also confirm bug #1178601 ? [10:02] bug 1178601 in webbrowser-app "Need to expose 'url' and 'loading' properties on the Browser component" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1178601 [10:02] oSoMoN: done, thanks === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik === Lloir_ is now known as Lloir [11:58] hello everybody [12:01] does somebody know wether the adb tools found the nexus that run with ubuntu 13.04 or something like that or only if adnroid on the nexus? [12:02] i want to run ubuntu touch on nexus 7 and adb did not found the device with running ubuntu 13.04 on it [12:02] there is no adb ... its the desktop install ... [12:03] boot into recovery mode and use the manual install method described on the touch install wiki [12:04] it used adb on the desktop too if see write === pete-woods1 is now known as pete-woods === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:10] i have installed ubuntu 13.04 installed on the nexus 7 and want to install ubuntu touch like the wiki says and it failed at 'adb devices' with device not found [12:25] there is no adb ... its the desktop install ... [12:25] boot into recovery mode and use the manual install method described on the touch install wiki [12:26] (see, i can repeat my answers as well ... ) [12:29] i do it like you says ogra i change the nexus in recovery mode and run adb push on the desktop [12:30] good [12:30] it says device not found [12:30] adb says that ? [12:30] works here [12:31] did you do all the preparation stuff described higher above in the wiki ? [12:31] (adb restart=server etc) [12:31] s/=/-/ === pete-woods1 is now known as pete-woods === francisco is now known as Guest3991 [12:37] ok some restarts latter adb devices displays me the device and adb push is running [12:38] great :) [12:38] adb is running and display no output is it right? [12:39] for the armhf zip ? [12:39] its quite big, it takes a while ... [12:40] who long does it run? [12:40] 10min or so [12:40] ok i wait a while ;) [12:41] the armel grouper zip is surely faster :) [12:42] i run http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip [12:42] (make sure you do both zips in the right order, that is very important) [12:43] (like the wiki describes) [12:44] does someone have ubuntu touch on a nexus 4? for me it was really really laggy, especially in the dropdown menu. is that normal? [12:45] many do ... [12:45] and it should not be laggy on the n4 at all [12:45] sounds like you found some bug [12:45] oh too bad. for me it was quite laggy in the dropdown menus. unusable i would say [12:45] actually depends on the device... but 10 min is a got average for the slowest one [12:45] maybe i test a daily "end of may" again === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [12:57] user82, sounds like there must be something eating up you cpu, can you check top and the logs [12:57] user82, it should no appear at all slow [12:57] ok thanks pmcgowan [12:57] i flashed back my android but if the problem persists with the first 3g rom(where i will start using ubuntu) i will look into it [12:58] ok === hays_ is now known as hays [13:02] * ogra_ really wonders hwy the saucy zip is so much smaller than the raring one [13:02] s/hwy/why/ [13:03] ogra_, have you diffed the manifests? [13:03] not yet [13:03] its 495 vs 524M [13:03] waiting for the first fully automated build in 2h [13:03] maybe all those double versions were cleaned up [13:04] my test of the last saucy image didnt really show any nis-function [13:04] yep [13:04] *mis [13:04] also, I think we just dropped python2.7 [13:04] but then that was on friday .... and yesyerdays build was having Qt issues [13:04] in about 2h there should be a working build i will test [13:05] cool [13:05] at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ btw [13:20] ogra_, aha we drop the preview and so its real [13:21] yeah [13:21] boiko: hi, you probably noticed the bug reports and e-mails. phone-app / qt pim should all work now again, but it'd be nice if you rechecked [13:21] Mirv: nice! thanks for looking into that [13:21] it still uses a gross hack to produce the zip from the tarball ... [13:21] until we have a bionic cross toolcahin in the archive [13:21] ok [13:22] do you have an alternate settings to use it with p-f? [13:22] ogra_, ^^ [13:22] nope [13:23] we should just switch the default once we know its safe [13:23] just thought it would make it easier to get more testing, let me look [13:23] until we do, i would call it experimental enough that people can just use the manual method [13:24] do a normal p-f with the latest ... then adb push the saucy zip to autodeploy.zip and reboot recovery .... === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [13:26] ogra_, I am too lazy for that, I have an alternate settings already [13:26] well, p-f would need some changes until we start shipping tteh android bits in ubuntu-touch/ anyway [13:27] which again hangs on the bionic toolchain [13:27] ogra_, oh you dont have the android stuff there at all [13:27] (like most other image realted stuff) [13:27] whats the diff between phablet and touch zips === olli_ is now known as olli [13:28] you mean the android layer ? [13:28] there is none, we dont produce android stuff in saucy at all yet [13:28] so we cant really switch until thats done [13:28] Mirv: I approved your sensors MR [13:29] we can ... by using the android zips we have from jenkins [13:29] sergiusens: thanks. 2 down, 1 to go (qtwebkit) [13:29] the resulting zip should be the same either way [13:29] ogra_: pmcgowan difference is what is in ppa:phablet-team [13:29] ogra_, so the current dir will look the same, just manually copy them to it [13:29] and i could just sync into ubuntu-touch/ [13:30] sergiusens, on the android layer ? [13:30] ogra_, I was asking the diff between phablet.zip and touch.zip [13:30] ogra_: is network manager fixed? [13:30] sergiusens, nope [13:30] i dont think there were any fixes at all since last friday [13:30] apart from me working on image building [13:31] cyphermox, ^^^ is merging NM on your TODO ? [13:31] do we have a hitlist of things to do before saucy transition [13:31] ogra_: so what I'm saying is, if hybris changes today, the android layer will change but saucy won't (ppa:phablet-team) [13:31] pmcgowan, i do not know the details but is it completely impossible to include dalvikvm in ubuntu touch? licence or tech wise? [13:32] pmcgowan, phablet.zip vs touch.zip is differing in the underlying system ... beyond that they use the same PPAs (until finally everyone starts uploading too saucy instead of PPAs [13:32] ) [13:32] user82: you can do it tech wise, but it's not the focus [13:32] ok sergiusens [13:32] user82, tech wise no, license would also be ok but would cause other issues for manufacturers [13:32] sergiusens, oh, could you copy that to saucy then ? [13:32] ok [13:33] also dalvik is just the VM, you ned to look into the runtime deps [13:33] so its a big thing tech qise [13:33] wise [13:33] allright thanks. do not really miss it once the basic apps are complete more a question of personal interest [13:33] ogra_: it hasn't changed yet ;-) [13:33] sergiusens, oops, missed the "if" :) [13:34] ogra_, I didnt understand the last answer, I see a touch_armhf.tar.gz and a phablet_armhf.zip [13:34] ogra_: but those should land for saucy if they change eventually [13:34] why two things [13:34] ogra_: the META-INF, is it the same one from raring or did you fork it? [13:34] pmcgowan, oops, thanks ! ... typo in my evil script ! [13:35] sergiusens, i had to fork it minimally ... [13:35] ogra_, sergiusens I think we have a session next week to review the transition and ensure we have all the pre-requisite steps [13:35] oi ciao :)) [13:35] is that true? [13:35] if it's not there we should! [13:35] right, we need to do the blueprint today if its not there [13:35] ogra_: was that in the list of BPs you were going to setup? [13:35] ops sorry XD [13:36] I've changed channel guys XD [13:36] sergiusens, nope, just raw hackery yet... [13:36] sergiusens, run_program("/sbin/mv", "/data/ubuntu_tmp_extract", "/data/ubuntu"); [13:36] in updater-script [13:36] the official tarballs dont have a "binary" toplevel dir, just / [13:39] pmcgowan, phablet vs touch fixed ... the new build should come out at preinstalled-touch like it should [13:39] s/at/as/ [13:39] ogra_, ok [13:39] sergiusens, the sensor MR worked for you? Did you build your own package and install it to the target? [13:39] jhodapp: hey, just say you claimed the review [13:40] ogra_, can you make a bp for the saucy image work [13:40] jhodapp: I already Happroved, we can switch back [13:40] jhodapp: well I fixed the build, then used the deb that came out of jenkins [13:40] sergiusens, no that's ok, if you got it to work then it must be working...I don't know why it didn't work for me [13:40] jhodapp: seem my comment :-) [13:40] pmcgowan, on my TODO already ... just didnt register it yet [13:40] vg thanks [13:40] jhodapp: tried on maguro, and can try on manta as well if it makes sense [13:40] sergiusens, will we spin a new raring build this morning? [13:41] sergiusens, couldn't hurt to try it on manta [13:41] pmcgowan: the webkit bug isnt' fixed yet... and the sensors was just looked at today... so it would be broken [13:41] sergiusens, what build # did you try this on? [13:42] jhodapp: 119 [13:42] jhodapp: my manta has 118 with a dist-upgrade I did to track down the issue... I'll test there too [13:42] sergiusens, ok, leave it as approved then...my setup must be funny then [13:43] jhodapp: nah, pulling out the manta :-) [13:43] wasnt 119 broken ? [13:44] (due to Qt) [13:44] sergiusens, btw, tell me once i can enable syncing again, i see colin switched it off [13:45] jhodapp: I tried the sensors on a mako [13:45] ogra_: yeah 119 is broken [13:45] Mirv, works ok? [13:45] jhodapp: yes, I wouldn't have submitted the merge proposal otherwise :) [13:45] Mirv, do you have a galaxy nexus? [13:46] jhodapp: I did notice your supplied qtsensors.qml used the dummy output unless I disabled that plugin, but it gave the "Registered..." text in all cases and all apps worked [13:46] Mirv: jhodapp works fine on manta as well [13:46] jhodapp: unfortunately not [13:46] sergiusens, awesome, thanks [13:46] sergiusens: ok, thanks [13:46] Mirv, hmm ok, you should probably see about getting one since that's our primary target atm. [13:47] ++ [13:47] jhodapp: I won't Happrove since I see you added Needs Fixing ;-) [13:48] they are hard to get though ... [13:48] jhodapp: you can download the deb from the MR btw [13:48] sergiusens, now you can Happrove [13:48] jhodapp: maguro is the target, but not everyone is going to have one as you can't buy them anymore [13:49] jhodapp, we have 4 reference designs, not everyone can have all of them [13:49] sergiusens, oh really, hmm [13:49] nexus is mainly prime for devs since its the lowest capability [13:49] pmcgowan: they are all nexus ;-) [13:49] indeed [13:49] pmcgowan, makes sense...I though Mirv might want one for testing out the performance of new Qt versions on low-end hardware [13:49] jhodapp: before last week I didn't have any device, so I'm happy I have at least one device. my arm Qt building is also doable with that in case needed. [13:50] jhodapp, I think some others can do that [13:50] right [13:50] Mirv: so what's the issue with qtwebkit and the patch not applying? [13:53] jhodapp, thats why we have a QA team ;) [13:54] we need to make more use of them [13:54] sergiusens: if you take lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtwebkit-opensource-src , and try to apply the add_experimentalDevicePixelRatio.patch as it was until bzr26 in that branch on top of Qt 5.0.2, it fails [13:54] ogra_, QA team, what's that? ;p [13:54] as soon as the word "test" comes up in a sentence it should scream QA to you ;) [13:54] sergiusens: so I modified the patch to apply, see bzr diff -r 26..27, and the first thought would be that I modified it wrong and that's why it doesn't work. the other option is that something else changed in qtwebkit 5.0.2 [14:03] ogra_: yes, it is [14:04] ah, cool, so the saucy image should work then [14:10] ogra_: cyphermox in the TODO or done? [14:11] oh, heh [14:11] * ogra_ was assuming a yes to the merge :) not to the list addition [14:11] ogra_: in todo [14:11] k [14:12] I can't just take the patches that were on raring/quantal for touch, they're not right for desktop [14:13] where can I try the saucy image? [14:13] soon from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/ [14:13] the 20130510/ image should start being usable [14:14] (i hope) [14:14] cdimage should spit it out within the next hour === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [14:33] hi [14:33] someone speak spanish????? [14:34] people in spain do ... i heard [14:34] ok, can i install ubuntu touch on my huawei UM840??? [14:35] check the devices wikipage [14:35] i was reading wiki, but can't find this hardware [14:35] !devices | jmanuel_cool [14:35] jmanuel_cool: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [14:35] if it isnt there you can do a port (or try to find somebody to do it for you) [14:35] thank ogra_ [14:35] !porting | jmanuel_cool [14:36] !ports | jmanuel_cool [14:36] jmanuel_cool: For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall [14:36] bah [14:36] popey, dont we have a command for the ports page ? [14:36] ogra_: that's sound cool, but i'm not programmer :'C [14:37] (teh porting link is in the channel topic btw) [14:38] ogra_: i find this device https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/u8815 << which is similar (but not equal) hardware, but wikipage is empty [14:38] * jmanuel_cool apologize for his worst english [14:39] i can understand you ... so your english is good enough :) [14:39] the page has links in the top table [14:39] ogra_: dont think so [14:41] ogra_: i'm reading links, but job can be rude [14:43] well, i have other smartphone like mine, but the touch screen is broken (image can be displayed, but "tactil" don't work), i think to try with this [14:44] ogra_: is ubuntu_stamp going to move at some point? [14:44] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/ubuntu_stamp will be somewhere else? [14:44] its a jenkins thing [14:45] I mean, the directory structure is changing? [14:45] s/-preview// ? [14:45] if we dont use jenkins, the cdimage dir and .disk/info files are your stamp as on every other ubuntu install [14:46] right, cdimage buiulds should not have the -preview anymore [14:46] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ubuntu_stamp is missing because the build was done manually, not via jenkins? [14:46] (I want to monitor that file so I know when a new build is done) [14:46] ok, another question, ¿what environment this use? ¿can i use other? like e16/17 [14:46] popey, not manually, via a proper buildsystem :) [14:47] meow [14:47] ☻ [14:47] jmanuel_cool, no, there is no Xorg on the images, so you can not use any apps that use X [14:48] ogra_: ?????? [14:48] jmanuel_cool, ubuntu-touch does not use X [14:48] ogra_: why????? [14:49] ogra_: >> http://g300.thebronasium.com/screenshots/ubuntu/device-2013-02-27-211800_thumb.png << it's a joke????? [14:49] because it will use Mir (and currently uses androids SurfaceFlinger) as display server [14:49] no, thats how ubuntu-touch looks like [14:50] if you're looking at it from a far away.. [14:50] but it does use its own display server, X applications do not run [14:51] (yet) [14:52] ogra_: ok, now i understand [14:52] ogra_: porting link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting [14:53] popey, wget -q -O - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/| html2text |grep " 2013"|tail -1|cut -d" " -f2 [14:54] should work until end of the year :) [14:54] hah [14:54] thanks [14:54] (can surely be cleaner, thats just a quick and dirty one) [14:55] are we moving away from build numbers to build dates? [14:55] we are moving towards the generic build system [14:56] hm [14:56] which does "$datestamp.$sequence" [14:56] (mitting .$sequence if $sequence is empty) [14:56] *omitting === eXiLe_ is now known as eXiLe [15:04] Mirv: do you mind removing the current qtwebkit build? I copied the ~test3 one to phablet-team just in case... if so we can re enable the builds and fix this in parallel [15:17] * jmanuel_cool downloading everything for flash his device [15:18] ogra_: pmcgowan I compared the manifests, packagewise, usb and consolekit are the only removals I can quickly see [15:18] usb ? [15:19] ogra_: libgusb2:armhf 0.1.5-0ubuntu1 and libusb-1.0-0:armhf 2:1.0.12-2ubuntu1 [15:20] ah [15:20] yeah that switches to 2.0 afaik [15:20] and CK is dead and gone [15:21] yup, still wouldn't explain the big image [15:21] not really [15:21] i mean, binaries might be smaller due to gcc 4.8 .... but not to that extend [15:21] unless it's a livebuild thing... [15:22] compression level? [15:22] we use -9 on cdimage [15:22] -9 --rsyncable actually [15:22] (for gziping the tarball) [15:27] back to the X11 ?....so is anyone working on it for ubuntu-touch [15:28] ask in #ubuntu-mir [15:28] but i doubt its in the focus [15:28] (thats rather a 14.04 task) [15:37] * ogra_ would appreciate if people with other nexus devices could test the zip from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ [15:39] sergiusens: I wouldn't remove it unless the old version is known to work with newer qt.. the version mismatch complaints (can't mix 5.0.1 with 5.0.2) come up often === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|lunch === administ1ator is now known as tux1986 [15:40] aquarius, i took your maps patch and proposed it for you https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/friends-app/maps/+merge/163332 [15:41] :) [15:41] * ogra_ kind of has the feeling that saucy is way more responsive === slobo_ is now known as slobo [15:41] hey kenvandine, sorry, I haven't had time to look at it :( [15:41] but that might be a subjective impression or just wishful thinking [15:41] ogra_, gcc enhancements? [15:41] probably [15:41] try it :) [15:42] aquarius, mind giving it a review? i also tweaked some labels to make the location name look like it is a button [15:42] no networking though [15:42] aquarius, no worries :) [15:42] ogra_, no networking! [15:42] nope [15:42] it uses network-manager from the archive which doesnt have the patches yet [15:42] kenvandine, I did note that dropping letters now doesn't have any music on my desktop, presumably because the phone can't do music? [15:43] aquarius, right [15:43] i couldn't figure out how to make it fail gracefully [15:43] instead of crashing === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [15:45] sergiusens: tested downgrading quickly and webrowser-app continues to work, so removed for now (a copy is still in qt5-beta-proper). I do have a memory that qtwebkit didn't appear to have the version clash problem at some point earlier, so maybe it just works. [15:45] sergiusens: if the webkit 5.0.2 is needed back, it can be copied [15:46] Mirv: ok, if we need it, we will need it with the webkit fix [15:46] *DPR fix === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [15:48] ogra_: got intructions for manually installing those files on a nexus 4? I only ever use phablet-flash ☻ === mibofra is now known as mibofra_tablet === mibofra_tablet is now known as mibofra [15:49] popey, boot into recovery ... adb push /path/to/saucy/zip /sdcard/autodeploy.zip; adb reboot recovery [15:50] kenvandine, did the thing that meant that no posts had locations get fixed? that's why I didn't submit the branch before [15:50] ogra_: ta [15:50] works also without recovery but i dont know if the mapping of /sdcard is the same on the n4 [15:50] i had a handful from facebook [15:50] ogra_: no need for the tgz? [15:50] nope [15:50] and of course foursquare all had them [15:50] k [15:50] just the zip [15:50] aquarius, so i tested it [15:50] kenvandine, aah, that was it. I only use twitter, and twitter locations weren't showing up, so I couldn't test it properly [15:51] aquarius, for an easy way to test it, i removed all my other accounts [15:51] and just left foursquare :) [15:51] kenvandine, which also means that I can't meaningfully review it, though :( [15:51] s'pose I could just add a foursquare account, couldn't i? [15:51] hehe :) [15:51] yeah [15:51] if you remove your twitter account, the rows will get purged from the model [15:52] so you can then get a feed of just foursquare [15:52] just for testing [15:56] kenvandine, oi! it doesn't *do* foursquare. [15:57] ? [15:57] I have no option in online accounts to add a foursquare account. [15:57] friends-foursquare [15:57] install that [15:57] which should pull in account-plugin-foursquare [15:57] oh [15:57] heh [15:58] friends doesn't depend on all its account types? [15:58] it does [15:58] the plugins do [15:58] you didn't have friends-foursquare installed [15:58] but friends itself doesn't depend on all its plugins? [15:58] how would I know that friends-foursquare existed? [15:58] nope [15:58] software center :) [15:58] it suggests them all [15:59] ya, but friends is gonna be default, right? [15:59] yeah [15:59] on twitter and facebook are in main [15:59] different level of support [15:59] at that point, either we should also ship all the plugins, or there should be some way of alerting the user that they can add foursquare, I think [15:59] oh, we don't *want* people to add other plugins unless they know what they're doing? [16:00] well, i want them to [16:00] but we don't necessarily want to have to support everything plugin anyone contributes [16:00] we want to make sure it is well maintained [16:00] foursquare is though [16:01] we should come up with a way to make that more discoverable [16:01] I have to actually remove my twitter account? I can't just block friends from accessing it? [16:01] but, if someone knows they want foursquare, they'll look in software center and see it's available [16:01] oh [16:01] you can probably just block it [16:01] if not... that's a bug :) [16:02] disagree completely. It never would have occurred to me that Ubuntu even knows about foursquare. [16:02] now, you can argue that my first thing would be to search for a foursquare app, and then I discover the Ubutnu foursquare integration... [16:02] aquarius, how would you install foursquare on your iphone? [16:02] right [16:02] search for foursquare would show friends [16:02] right. If I look for an app. [16:03] but bear in mind that, at least near the beginning, most app searches that people do will not have a result. [16:03] so people won't instinctively hit the app store for everything, like they do on iphone/android now [16:03] yeah [16:03] if we get reliable location support we should add foursquare by default [16:04] sweet, the maps work. [16:05] ogra_: just nticed the gallery app in the saucy build may be the busted one === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [16:05] sergiusens, apart from that it works for you ? [16:05] (and the other known bugs indeed) [16:06] ogra_: yeah, was also testing the save_my_stuff thing... both f the things I used to infer from the UI are broken :-P ... network and gallery [16:06] fginther: when you get a chance, can you update the core apps daily ppa so that it builds for saucy as well as raring please? [16:06] mediaplayer and sound too [16:06] at least on the gnex [16:07] i just get a black screen on saucy with gallery [16:07] ogra_: those should be fixed... so it might just need a series copy [16:07] popey: it's the bug from last week [16:07] ah ok [16:07] i wish people would just upload to saucy [16:07] the backporting should be the copy ... not the forward port [16:08] ogra_: we have that task centralized [16:08] ogra_: one person flips the switch and it happens for everything [16:08] well, if we dont switch asap we will have less time to fix saucy bugs [16:08] popey, it already is, is there an issue? [16:09] oh! nope ☻ [16:10] a good citizen :) [16:10] ogra_: sound may be broken because the pulseaudio thing... [16:10] yeah [16:10] ogra_: we should tag a raring release and move on [16:10] nmcli [16:10] is there a bug filed for pulse ? [16:11] well, phablet/network/setup shoould work too, no ? [16:11] oops s/\//-/ [16:11] ogra_: yeah... [16:11] ogra_: but the polkit thing is what's broke [16:11] ah [16:12] ogra_: iirc, cyphermox was waiting on the container flip to fix NM [16:12] ok [16:12] next onmy todo :) [16:12] ogra_: I can in the meantime create a greater nm version (whch I can later delete). [16:12] same would apply for mountall et.al. [16:13] just bump it minimally. esle upgraders will never get the new one [16:13] popey: mind moving back to raring? [16:13] mountall is fine [16:13] we already get the PPA one by default [16:14] i expect to have properly booting flipped image for all nexus devices by end of next week ... depending how much time UDS leaves me [16:14] sergiusens: sure [16:14] ogra_: ack... although _upgraders_ is a story to be told much more in the future, was hoping these packages would be long gone by then [16:14] sergiusens: ogra_: we have some changes w/ logind and stuff, if it's in the chroot NM can just run... [16:14] (flipped images without running surfaceflinger though) [16:14] popey: as soon as my saucy, save my stuff is ready, 'm going to ask you to update to that :-P [16:16] ok [16:17] how you doing save my stuff? [16:17] my crappy script just zips up and adb pulls the zip file off [16:17] https://code.launchpad.net/~popey/+junk/phablet-flash-wrapper [16:17] then flashes then pushes the zip back on and unzips it [16:19] popey: I'm saving as part of the zip file :-) [16:20] so will it cater for someone like me who has two devices? [16:22] are daily changelogs available? did not find anything good in google === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [16:32] user82, you can find the changelog for each build up on cdimage for example http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled.changelog [16:32] thanks pmcgowan [16:40] hi [16:40] network doesn't work with saucy image ? [16:41] yeah, known issue [16:41] gallery, network, mediaplayer and sound [16:42] popey: pmcgowan https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/touch-preview-images/phablet-build-scripts/+merge/163338 [16:42] ok [16:44] saucy image seems to be more fast or fluid [16:44] sergiusens: so I'm running raring on this, do you want me to take some pictures and login to gmail etc to generate locat data/ [16:44] ? [16:44] before following your steps [16:44] popey: yeah, I wrote some sort of testing instructions [16:44] and what to expect [16:44] yeah, i see those, but it doesn't recommend creating data first [16:45] just presumes I have some [16:45] code wise it looks fine to me [16:45] kenvandine: can you do a copy of gallery-app from raring to saucy in daily-build-next? [16:45] sergiusens, so we can test that against raring I assume? [16:46] popey: doh... when I wrote check photos taken, forgot to write, 'take photos :-) [16:46] ☻ [16:46] pmcgowan: against anything actually... should just work [16:46] sergiusens, not really [16:46] pmcgowan: just use the image I have uploaded [16:47] that saveme.zip [16:47] (on saucy i mean) [16:47] ogra_: not sure if the question was what you had to have installed on your system or to where [16:47] ogra_: but the image I uploaded is a saucy one ;-) [16:48] oh [16:48] ogra_: sans binary ;-) [16:48] sans binary ? [16:48] how does that work ? [16:48] i thought the binary is the interpreter for that script language [16:49] oh, sans binary subdir you mean [16:49] * ogra_ thought update-binary [16:51] ogra_: lol... too much of a Friday [16:51] heh [17:03] sergiusens: looks good [17:04] sergiusens: trying to phablet-flash back to 118 gives out of space error [17:04] need to tidy up /sdcard [17:07] popey: heh... oh, that can be an issue for big homes :-/ [17:08] i only had 3 pictures [17:08] (along with all the pictures/videos we pre-install) [17:08] [which I'd quite like to remove] [17:08] big pictures ? [17:08] :) === mibofra is now known as mibofra_tablet === mibofra_tablet is now known as mibofra === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [17:19] ogra_: that's my weekend task... not populate messages, remove the demo stuff and create a script to add the demo content [17:20] be nice to optionally add the core apps and collections ppa and the meta packages inside them [17:20] basically.. [17:20] add-apt-repository -y ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/collection [17:20] add-apt-repository -y ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily [17:20] apt-get install --yes touch-collection touch-coreapps [17:21] popey, my run command is not enabled in qtcreator, I seem to recall this before [17:22] popey: core_apps should be in the sources list [17:22] yeah [17:22] sergiusens: sure, but we've only approved some of them to be installed by default [17:22] the "four C's" [17:22] be nice for people to be able to test the others like file manager, rss reader etc [17:23] popey: yeah, but the sources list is already in, so no need to add-apt-repository [17:23] pmcgowan: the green triangle button or the CTRL+F12 button? [17:23] oh, okay, sorry [17:23] run local [17:23] popey: we can certainly add the collections one [17:23] pmcgowan: i haven't seen that for a while [17:23] was working the other day [17:23] foo [17:24] qtc keeps crashing as well [17:24] bah [17:24] hmm [17:24] actually [17:24] i have a bunch of orphaned qtc windows [17:25] its definitiely unwell [17:26] pmcgowan: latest phablet tools with bumped version is in ppa [17:27] sergiusens, ack [17:27] popey, are you running from the PPA or raring [17:27] ogra_: other weekend task is to upgrade to saucy on the chromebook :-) [17:27] qtc [17:30] thats odd [17:32] * jackcy75 greets === datagutt is now known as datacute === datacute is now known as cm9 === cm9 is now known as datacute [17:35] i got ubuntu touch developer preview running on a galaxy s3 i9300. then i wanted to test more current images. the cdimages from raring and saucy seem to install fine. but i get no output on the screen. do i have to change something on the xda developers image (ubuntu-for-i9300.zip)? === datacute is now known as datagutt [17:37] sergiusens, uuuh, brave [17:37] ogra_: :-) [17:37] jackcy75: did you build yourself? [17:38] no, it was accomplished by an xda developer krassewelt: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38455532 [17:38] based on one of the cm10.1 nighties (which work fine) [17:39] pmcgowan: qtcreator 2.7.0-0ubuntu4~raring1~test5 [17:39] well, if there are changes in ubuntu it needs to be rebuild [17:39] sergiusens, sure [17:39] (from the ppa) [17:39] popey, hmm not seeing that [17:39] from the ubuntu-sdk-team ppa [17:39] jackcy75, ask him to do a fresh build (and he should do that regulary actually) [17:40] jackcy75: well, you probably need a new hybris and platform api if it is too old... do you know if patches exist, were made avail? [17:41] sergiusens, done [17:41] he has not officially submitted his work. but i could ask him to do so and/or allow me to continue his work. [17:46] kenvandine: thanks, one more random question, can a daily build be triggered for lp:qtubuntu-sensors ? [17:46] sure === jhodapp|lunch is now known as jhodapp [17:46] jackcy75: well, you would probably need to rebuild [17:47] kenvandine: thanks! [17:47] ok. i think i can figure that out *G* [17:49] thank you === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [18:02] Anybody home? [18:03] moocow1452: sure [18:03] I've been building for Nook, and finally got something that isn't a black screen. [18:04] nice! [18:04] is it a white screen? ㋛ [18:04] Had to use the MWC build, touch screen doesn't work, and the rotation is 90 degrees off but pretty picture. [18:08] sergiusens, qtubuntu-sensors built [18:08] kenvandine: thanks [18:09] np [18:10] snwh, thanks for the icon, it looks great! [18:13] kenvandine, no problem :) === ZDmitry_ is now known as ZDmitry [18:40] popey: can You help me with some question on Core Apps PPA, or should I wait for mhall119? [18:42] So, now that I got it displaying, anything I should do to fix the rotation issue and touch screen? === ricotz_ is now known as ricotz [18:47] I just leave what I want... popey, mhall119|away: Can someone add job for building latest konsole-qml-plugin to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily? Two days past after landing last revision, but still we have old packgage. Thanks. [18:52] I'm sorry to bother you again. In setting up the build environment for I9300, the command breakfast cannot be found anywhere. Is there a package that I am missing? 13.04 amd64. [18:53] ZDmitry: hey [18:53] jackcy did you . build/envsetup.sh? [18:53] fginther: can you help ZDmitry with autolanding konsole-qml-plugin? [18:54] yes, but before i had to chmod +x the envsetup.sh because it was not executable. [18:55] jackcy75, make sure you run it from the build folder everytime you start working with a new terminal. [18:57] moocow1452, do i have to run it as root? [18:57] Shouldn't have to. Wouldn't hurt though. [18:58] hm still no luck. [18:58] It's not a permant command, so when you open a new terminal, it loses the breakfast command until you rerun . build/envsetup.sh [19:02] jackcy75, can you used brunch? [19:05] I try to resync the build env with "phablet-dev-bootstrap -c I9300", launchpad-id activated, then changed to "cd I9300", ran "./build/envsetup.sh". It included a few *.sh. but still no luck: breakfast I9300 [19:05] breakfast: Befehl nicht gefunden. [19:06] nope, no brunch available [19:07] .n === lool- is now known as lool [19:19] epa [19:20] oops [19:46] jackcy, you included the space right it's . build/envsetup.sh verbatim. [19:54] popey, ZDmitry, looking [19:55] fginther: Can You add job for building latest konsole-qml-plugin to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily? [19:56] thanks fginther [20:00] ZDmitry, the server that runs the jobs is currently down. I'll contact the admins and get back to you. [20:01] Okay, thanks a lot. [20:45] hey all [20:55] Hey feltham === matzipan_ is now known as matzipan === salem_ is now known as _salem === Lloir is now known as Lloir|zZzZz