[04:46] <fadetoz> Is anyone on here?
[04:47] <holstein> fadetoz: yes
[04:48] <fadetoz> Just got Ubuntu Studio loaded up.. Looks great. I have not used XFCE much but it seems to look and run great
[04:50] <holstein> fadetoz: cheers... enjoy it!
[04:53] <fadetoz> Thanks... I loaded it up in my music studio and tested Ardour for a few minutes and I'm pretty impressed
[04:54] <fadetoz> Are you a user or more involved with the distro?
[04:54] <holstein> both
[04:55] <fadetoz> Nice.. Sry I'm kind of a noob to xchat...
[04:56] <holstein> fadetoz: no worries.. glad you are here
[04:56] <fadetoz> I'm really wanting to ditch Windows completely in the Studio and move to Ubuntu Studio.
[04:56] <holstein> check out #opensourcemusicians if its slow here
[04:56] <fadetoz> thanks..
[04:57] <fadetoz> added it to my favorites
[04:58] <fadetoz> Do you know if Ardour is pretty resource friendly? as far as a DAW can be anyway.
[04:59] <holstein> fadetoz: there are lighter.. but it works for me
[04:59] <holstein> fadetoz: it'll more depend on your JACK config
[04:59] <fadetoz> That's another thing I need to read up on. I don't know Jack
[05:00] <fadetoz> What kinda stuff do you record? Guitar Midi etc.?
[05:01] <holstein> i do very little midi
[05:01] <holstein> http://holstein.bandcamp.com/ is a few solo albums i made with FOSS
[05:01] <fadetoz> So guitar in?
[05:01] <holstein> i do other stuff, but thats the stuff i can easily share, since its just me
[05:01] <holstein> solo upright bass
[05:02] <holstein> fadetoz: though, i play guitar as well
[05:02] <fadetoz> Sweet...
[05:03] <fadetoz> my band is in need of a bass player. Ours up and quit after our 2nd gig. Was a bummer
[05:04] <fadetoz> Do you play out at all or just for fun?
[05:06] <fadetoz> http://www.youtube.com/user/OversoldGuidance
[05:07] <fadetoz> If you wan't to check it out there are some originals there were working on. Were just doing the weekly jams for now.
[05:07] <holstein> fadetoz: i rarely play for fun ;)
[05:07] <holstein> fadetoz: i say, you dont need a bass player
[05:08] <holstein> i mean, you are all playing the roots
[05:08] <holstein> i say, just get an octave pedal, or dont worry about it
[05:10] <fadetoz> I was thinking about that awhile back. Wondering how important having a bass is. The Singer give me the backing when I do any solos
[05:10] <fadetoz> Interesting that you would say that too since I have never heard anyone flat out say "You don't need a bass player"
[05:11] <fadetoz> So I take it you get paid to play?
[05:12] <holstein> its what i do for a living
[05:12] <fadetoz> Nice. What kind of music? Jazz or ?
[05:13] <holstein> fadetoz: mostly jazz, and my own stuff when i get the chance, but whatever i get called for
[05:14] <fadetoz> Figured if you play upright there may be some Jazz going on
[05:14] <fadetoz> Checking out your site now
[05:17] <fadetoz> The only play I play besides band practice is at Church. I played their all last summer. Going to play for 6 weeks starting the 23rd
[05:17] <holstein> nice
[05:17] <fadetoz> They are trying out a contemporary service on Thursday evenings.
[05:18] <holstein> i got some shows starting up around then
[05:18] <fadetoz> Your good man
[05:18] <holstein> 8 shows a week for most of the summer
[05:18] <holstein> fadetoz: cheers!.. thanks for listening
[05:19] <fadetoz> ALways great to meet other musicians. Good ones are also a bonus ;)
[05:19] <fadetoz> I'm not that good myself but I enjoy it
[05:19] <holstein> hehe.. likewise.. glad you found us, and i hope you get JACK and ardour working for you
[05:19] <holstein> are you wanting to track the band? or just overdub your own stuff?
[05:20] <holstein> fadetoz: i think you're good.. i like what you guys got going on there
[05:20] <fadetoz> I want to do my own stuff to start
[05:20] <holstein> nice
[05:20] <fadetoz> http://www.youtube.com/user/fadetoz/videos
[05:20] <fadetoz> that's my solo type stuff
[05:21] <holstein> nice.. nice video editing too
[05:22] <fadetoz> This is one of the first times I played at Church http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_KbjrflAL8
[05:23] <fadetoz> My wife was laughing.. there's never any guitar like that. Usually piano and an acoustic
[05:23] <holstein> hehe
[05:25] <fadetoz> I bookmarked you site so I can check it out some more...
[05:25] <holstein> fadetoz: cheers
[05:25] <fadetoz> Think it's about time for me to crash.. Great to meet you Mike
[05:25] <holstein> fadetoz: talk to you soon
[05:26] <fadetoz> Yes Sir.... Glad I loaded up XChat
[06:06] <Bernhardus> hello everyone
[06:06] <SunStar> hello
[06:07] <Bernhardus> Are you good with jack audio server?
[06:08] <Bernhardus> I love making music and can't use my microphone.
[06:08] <SunStar> not me. if no one else is around you can also try #jack and #opensourcemusicians
[06:08] <Bernhardus> I am still in #jack. Thank you for assistance.
[06:13] <holstein> !proaudio
[06:13] <holstein> Bernhardus: the internal mic?
[06:15] <Bernhardus> No the usb mic.
[06:16] <Bernhardus> What do you mean by !proaudio ?
[06:16] <holstein> Bernhardus: what would i do? disable the onboard audio.. open a terminal and run "aplay -l" and "arecord -l"... see that my device is listed there
[06:16] <holstein> Bernhardus: !proaudio is what made the bot give that link to the jack setup wiki page
[06:16] <Bernhardus> okay, I give it a trial.
[06:17] <Bernhardus> Thank you.
[06:17] <holstein> then, i would open qjackctl and look for my usb hardware and select it, which is likely where you are failing right now
[06:18] <Bernhardus> The problem is, that I upgraded jack, and now, I only can use oss driver. And there is no choice of microphone input.
[06:18] <holstein> Bernhardus: what driver to you want to use? what do you mean you "upgraded jack"?
[06:18] <holstein> you mean, out of repo?
[06:19] <holstein> go back to the default repo version... you can always use ubuntustudio from the live CD if you have broken your config
[06:19] <Bernhardus> thinking
[06:20] <Bernhardus>   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  Version: 0.3.4
[06:20] <Bernhardus> Build: Jul 28 2010 14:46:47
[06:20] <holstein> !paste
[06:20] <Bernhardus> !paste
[06:20] <holstein> Bernhardus: the bot wont give you the factoid again, since i just asked for it
[06:21] <Bernhardus> Before installing ardour 3 I was asked to upgrade jack. I did it from jack homepage, from the source.
[06:21] <holstein> Bernhardus: i didnt need to upgrade anything outside of the repos
[06:22] <holstein> Bernhardus: go back to the stock ubuntustudio version of jack, or you can get support from the jack team for the package you are using that is not ours
[06:22] <Bernhardus> Yes, but I was looking forward to use ardour 3 so many months, for the midi option.
[06:22] <holstein> Bernhardus: i use ardour 3 *without* a different verion of jack
[06:22] <Bernhardus> And I wanted to use it just parallel.
[06:22] <holstein> Bernhardus: sure
[06:22] <holstein> Bernhardus: i do that.. i did *not* change my jack version
[06:23] <holstein> Bernhardus: what version of ubuntustudio are you using?
[06:23] <Bernhardus> Yes I see, it was wrong. But the installation routine sad, I should use next hjck.
[06:23] <Bernhardus> said
[06:23] <holstein> Bernhardus: should and must are 2 different things
[06:25] <Bernhardus> Yes for the future I always will remember your words.
[06:25] <Bernhardus> But for now, what to do.
[06:26] <holstein> Bernhardus: ?.. go back to the stock version of jACK that was working..
[06:27] <Bernhardus> How to?
[06:27] <holstein> Bernhardus: i would go back from however you did it
[06:28] <Bernhardus> Yes, but how to?
[06:28] <holstein> Bernhardus: i have no idea what you have installed, or what version of ubuntustudio you are on
[06:28] <Bernhardus> 10.04
[06:28] <holstein> !eol
[06:28] <holstein> !10.04 | 10.04 is EOL
[06:29] <SunStar> boy yer really good with this PR stuff  :P
[06:29] <Bernhardus> Okay this what I thought about should and must.
[06:29] <holstein> Bernhardus: what would i do? download 12.04 or 13.04 and install, and enjoy
[06:29] <holstein> SunStar: ?
[06:29] <Bernhardus> holstein: okay
[06:30] <holstein> Bernhardus: between 13.04 or 12.04, i might do 13.04 now... but 12.04 is what i use and have been using.. and installed ardour3 on
[06:30] <Bernhardus> will the audio problem then be solved. I always hesitate such thinkgs, because my experience with linux and audio or mainborad is terrible.
[06:31] <holstein> Bernhardus: 10.04 is EOL.. the "no updates for my operating system" issue will be solved
[06:31] <Bernhardus> Okay.
[06:31] <holstein> Bernhardus: will it support your hardware? try it live and see
[06:31] <Bernhardus> Yes this is a good idea.
[06:31] <holstein> in my experience, it gets easier with newer versions
[06:31] <Bernhardus> I thought about it.
[06:32] <SunStar> 13 is so much better than 10
[06:32] <Bernhardus> okay, thank you a lot.
[06:33] <Bernhardus> I download ist and then try it first.
[06:33] <holstein> Bernhardus: enjoy!
[06:35] <Bernhardus> I say goodbye meenwhile to you holstein. Thank you.
[06:36] <holstein> Bernhardus: cheers
[06:42] <smartboyhw> zequence: Can you post the EOL announcement as "Ubuntu Studio" and post it to the Ubuntu Studio Community please?
[06:42] <smartboyhw> Eh wrong channel
[17:08] <mydoghasworms> Is there a better application than qjackctl's patchbay or connect? I find it very confusing with all those little lines.
[17:08] <mydoghasworms> I see that KXStudio has an app called Catia, but how do I install that?
[17:08] <holstein> !best
[17:08] <holstein> mydoghasworms: you can add the ppa's for kxstudio and use that application if you want
[17:09] <holstein> what do i use? qjackctl
[17:09] <holstein> ask in #opensourcemusicians to see what other folks like to use
[17:10] <mydoghasworms> Sorry, maybe I didn't phrase my question very well :-) I just mean that I have difficulty wiring up lots of apps with qjackctl and I would like an alternative (like Catia)
[17:10] <holstein> mydoghasworms: use that one
[17:11] <holstein> mydoghasworms: otherwise, there are lots of alternatives..
[17:12] <mydoghasworms> holstein, Can you name one or two?
[17:17] <holstein> mydoghasworms: i use qjackctl
[17:17] <holstein> there is one here http://www.linuxdsp.co.uk/archive/archived_lv2_plugins/index.html that i have checked out
[17:17] <holstein> theres patchage.. and AFAIK falks are going upstream
[17:18] <mydoghasworms> holstein, Thanks for the pointer, let me check that out.
[17:19] <holstein> mydoghasworms: also, since falk is around in #kxustudio , just follow where he is leading
[17:19] <holstein> mydoghasworms: if you are looking for X, i always say, just use X, since nothing is either exactly like X, nor necessarily trying to be or replace X
[17:20] <mydoghasworms> holstein, Thanks, he has in fact answered my one question about Catia.
[17:23] <mydoghasworms> holstein, I am sorry, but I didn't quite understand your last advice, though I am sure it is good advice. Sorry, maybe because it is late I am struggling to process it.
[17:27] <holstein> mydoghasworms: to use the version of the *actual* software you are looking for, is my advice.. getting it from PPA as i and falk suggests is one way to do ti
[17:27] <holstein> it*
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