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| ahoneybun_ | Riddelll: | 02:05 |
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| smartboyhw | Good afternoon. Is KDE SC 4.10.3 in raring? (since I saw a number of build failure mails in my inbox) | 05:21 |
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| tsimpson | !info kde-runtime raring | 06:27 |
| ubottu | kde-runtime (source: kde-runtime): runtime components from the official KDE release. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu3 (raring), package size 1800 kB, installed size 8462 kB | 06:27 |
| yofel | !testers | 4.10.3 is done in NINJAS for RARING | 09:18 |
| ubottu | 4.10.3 is done in NINJAS for RARING: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. | 09:18 |
| soee | got it | 09:19 |
| yofel | I'll do the backports once someone says that it works | 09:19 |
| soee | yofel, need ninjas ppa - dont have here on my laptop | 09:20 |
| yofel | soee: pm | 09:20 |
| soee | upgrading | 09:22 |
| Riddelll | yofel: does it have the patch for http security and (I don't know if there is one yet) for the plasma crash? | 09:22 |
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| yofel | it has both | 09:22 |
| soee | wallpapers package should be optional :/ | 09:24 |
| soee | why downloading always ~ 90mb | 09:24 |
| soee | only for the same wallpapers | 09:24 |
| yofel | uh, I think some of the translations changed | 09:25 |
| yofel | and we sadly don't have debdiffs yet :/ | 09:25 |
| * yofel goes to fetch some breakfast | 09:25 | |
| soee | yofel, | 10:01 |
| yofel | yes? | 10:01 |
| soee | upgrade ok | 10:01 |
| yofel | any issues after that? | 10:01 |
| soee | nope, now errors while upgrading and now im after reboot | 10:02 |
| soee | all fine | 10:02 |
| soee | *no errors | 10:02 |
| yofel | ok | 10:02 |
| * yofel goes backporting | 10:02 | |
| Riddell | yofel: working good here | 10:03 |
| Riddell | anything I should be testing for? | 10:03 |
| Riddell | plasma doesn't crash if I close things | 10:03 |
| yofel | well, that's already a good thing | 10:04 |
| yofel | hm... | 10:06 |
| yofel | Mamarok: does the kde-quality team have some list of test cases for regression testing? | 10:07 |
| apachelogger | ahoneybun: 100% -> all items ticked | 10:21 |
| Mamarok | yofel: did you check the wiki? | 10:26 |
| yofel | Mamarok: ok, that seems to have improved since I last looked at it which was quite a while ago | 10:33 |
| yofel | or maybe I just got lost last time | 10:33 |
| Mamarok | well, we also rely on what the projects communicate to test | 10:34 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319428 now CVE-2013-2074 | 10:53 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 319428 in http "noticifations about errors contain password" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 10:53 |
| ubottu | ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-2074) | 10:53 |
| Riddell | says debian bugs | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | ACK | 10:55 |
| Riddell | yofel: kde-runtime update done | 11:25 |
| yofel | is that supposed to prevent having to open kwallet for every application? | 11:25 |
| Riddell | yeah, it's just a config option so doesn't do anything to us unless we turn it on | 11:25 |
| yofel | yay | 11:26 |
| starbuck1 | yay! | 11:29 |
| Riddell | yofel: going to copy it over to kubuntu-ppa/updates now? | 11:31 |
| yofel | Riddell: well, I wanted to do the backports and release it as a batch, but I can copy raring now if you want. It is done after all | 11:33 |
| yofel | I have l10n done too | 11:33 |
| yofel | the announcement should probably wait until everything is done (unless you want to do one only for raring) | 11:33 |
| * yofel copies | 11:34 | |
| yofel | Riddell: published | 11:38 |
| Riddell | lovely thanks | 11:43 |
| Riddell | starbuck1: 4.10.3 in raring updates PPA if you want to try it out https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=raring | 11:43 |
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| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://benjaminkerensa.com/2013/05/10/ubuntu-is-community | 11:43 |
| Riddell | mck182: Ludovico Einaudi | 11:46 |
| Riddell | mck182: http://gallus.local/Music/ludovico-einaudi/ | 11:52 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: https://lwn.net/Articles/550032/ | 11:53 |
| yofel | nice article from bkrensa | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer | indeed | 12:04 |
| ahoneybun | apachelogger: ticked? | 12:52 |
| Mamarok | which is the default gcc version in Precise? | 13:04 |
| Mamarok | 4.5 or 4.6? | 13:05 |
| yofel | 4.6 | 13:05 |
| Mamarok | cool, I am just exploring the C++11 support in current distros | 13:06 |
| Mamarok | we would love to use the la,bda functions in Amarok | 13:06 |
| Mamarok | lambda* | 13:07 |
| yofel | I have a vague recollection of kde-devel discussing c++11 feature detection in cmake a while ago | 13:08 |
| yofel | *discussing | 13:08 |
| ahoneybun | smartboyhw: your 14? | 13:19 |
| smartboyhw | ahoneybun: Uh huh | 13:28 |
| ahoneybun | just saying I saw you on some rss | 13:28 |
| smartboyhw | ahoneybun: Heh, Nicholas Skaggs' the Orange Notebook? | 13:29 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 13:29 |
| BluesKaj_ | hey folks | 13:44 |
| ahoneybun | BluesKaj_: hey | 13:45 |
| BluesKaj_ | hi ahoneybun | 13:46 |
| ahoneybun | BluesKaj_: whats up | 13:46 |
| BluesKaj_ | ahoneybun, , morning coffee | 13:46 |
| ahoneybun | cool | 13:47 |
| BluesKaj_ | you? | 13:47 |
| ahoneybun | just listening to spotify | 13:48 |
| BluesKaj_ | oh yeah it's stateside now , not available in Canada ...I could use a vpn , but there's enough music out there and I have plenty on HDDs | 13:50 |
| BluesKaj_ | odd that aussies have and we don't ., smaller marker etc | 13:53 |
| BluesKaj_ | market | 13:53 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: listen to Ludovico Einaudi, it's the best hacking music we have decided, especially with afiestas_'s bass | 13:58 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: artist? | 13:59 |
| Riddell | yep, he's a pianist | 13:59 |
| ahoneybun | I see | 13:59 |
| ahoneybun | I fixed up the trello Riddell | 14:03 |
| Riddell | looking good ahoneybun | 14:05 |
| ahoneybun | thanks | 14:05 |
| ahoneybun | just need to have a % on the checklist somehow | 14:05 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: isn't that added if you add checklist items? | 14:07 |
| ahoneybun | I added themm | 14:07 |
| ahoneybun | what do I put for firewall info in the wiki | 14:12 |
| Riddell | "you don't need a firewall" | 14:12 |
| Riddell | kubuntu is secure by default | 14:13 |
| Riddell | actually I did get a virus once, but as long as you don't make a user account test with password test you'll be safe | 14:13 |
| ahoneybun | oh so don't even put anything about that in it? | 14:13 |
| Riddell | my advise would be to put in a simple explanation of why you don't need it | 14:15 |
| Riddell | and one for why you don't need a virus checker | 14:15 |
| ahoneybun | ok | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | maybe we should include a ufw GUI just to be safe? | 14:21 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: if you want to write one go ahead | 14:21 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs/RaringRingtail/Basics | 14:21 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: I am not familiar with that | 14:21 |
| Riddell | wait, bad tab completion | 14:22 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: if you want to write one go ahead | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=137789 .... | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gufw_10.04.4.png | 14:23 |
| ahoneybun | the changelog says they just got it to work with 13.04 | 14:23 |
| ahoneybun | 12.04 | 14:24 |
| Riddell | looks old | 14:24 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 14:24 |
| yofel | brrrrr | 14:35 |
| yofel | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/oxygen-icon-theme_4%3a4.10.3+dfsg-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): | 14:35 |
| yofel | trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/plasmagik.png', which is also in package plasmate-data 1.0-0ubuntu1 | 14:35 |
| shadeslayer | 0.o | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | upgrade went fine for me | 14:37 |
| yofel | well, do you have plasmate installed? | 14:37 |
| Riddell | grr | 14:38 |
| * yofel wonders whether oxygen-icons was even branched | 14:38 | |
| yofel | if not I'll just delete .3 | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | aha, yes trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/plasmagik.png', which is also in package oxygen-icon-theme 4:4.10.3+dfsg-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1 | 14:38 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: what backup program do you think is good? | 14:39 |
| Riddell | also somewhere without a good answer | 14:40 |
| Riddell | these days something to sync to a cloud would be good but I don't know if kde has such a thing | 14:40 |
| * yofel doesn't know much about backup programs | 14:40 | |
| yofel | I use rsync or rdiff-backup depending on the situation | 14:40 |
| yofel | that's all CLI though | 14:41 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: yea I just use rsync as well | 14:41 |
| Riddell | yep I do rsync to my local big disk computer | 14:41 |
| Riddell | but I'd like to sync it properly to a cloud with proper revert snapshot possiblity | 14:41 |
| Riddell | which ubuntu unity has something for that | 14:41 |
| ahoneybun | I use a bash script that I found and edited to my needs, makes backups of what I want | 14:41 |
| * yofel wonders when btrfs will reach the point where it's recommendable | 14:42 | |
| Riddell | deja-dup I think | 14:42 |
| ahoneybun | I like btrfs for the snapshot stuff | 14:42 |
| yofel | that has btrfs-send/-recive for snapshots | 14:42 |
| Riddell | yofel: not yet according to distrowatch | 14:42 |
| * ahoneybun wonders about kbackup http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=44998 | 14:43 | |
| yofel | I know, I'm on the linux-btrfs ML, plenty of issues and not-implemented stuff :S | 14:43 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: looks faffy | 14:44 |
| * ahoneybun should make a backup now when he's thinking about it, with all the work on Kubuntu Docs he has done | 14:44 | |
| Riddell | real men don't back up, real men upload to the internet and let the world mirror | 14:44 |
| Riddell | (C) Linus Torvals 1995 | 14:45 |
| ahoneybun | oh well idk I want to know I have my data | 14:45 |
| ahoneybun | lol | 14:45 |
| yofel | hehe | 14:45 |
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| yofel | *BLINK* | 14:48 |
| yofel | http://paste.kde.org/741758 | 14:48 |
| yofel | I'm not blind for not seeing plasmagik.png in there, right? | 14:48 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: real man make backups to their raspberrypi file servers in their room ;) | 14:48 |
| yofel | and according to http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/4.10/oxygen-icons/16x16/apps/ that file has been there for 4 months now | 14:49 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: should I recommand kbackup then? | 14:50 |
| yofel | It supports any OS supported tape drive | 14:50 |
| yofel | lol | 14:50 |
| yofel | first time I see that as the first thing in the support advertisement ^^ | 14:51 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: if you want to you'd need to try it and confirm it works well | 14:53 |
| ahoneybun | true | 14:53 |
| ahoneybun | lots of files | 14:56 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: how do you make a checklist marked as done | 14:58 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: check each item? | 14:59 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: yea like I'm about done with importing the security.xml | 14:59 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: see what I just did | 15:00 |
| yofel | you had a checklist with any list items | 15:00 |
| yofel | *without | 15:00 |
| yofel | I think you wanted something different... | 15:00 |
| yofel | one import checklist with all xml files as items? | 15:01 |
| ahoneybun | how did you.. | 15:01 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: see those "Add item" links in grey below each list? | 15:01 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 15:01 |
| yofel | that's how you add items to a list that you can mark as done | 15:01 |
| yofel | once all those items are checked you'll be at 100% | 15:02 |
| yofel | you should probably convert that into one list unless you have multiple steps for every file | 15:02 |
| ahoneybun | oh got it bbl | 15:03 |
| yofel | yep, now it looks better :) | 15:08 |
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| apachelogger | yofel: PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | YOFEL :( | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | yofel: I am crafting daily source package build tooling to work around launchpad being crap and I have a decision for you to make... | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | do you want to keep using one branch per packaging | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | or put all the packaging in one big branch | 15:53 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1178995] Bad PAM handling - no fingerprint support for KDE (lock screen, login lightdm screen) @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178995 (by Bart) | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | afiestas_: community.kde.org/KDE/High-dpi_issues | 16:10 |
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| ahoneybun | yofel: I know right! | 16:23 |
| ahoneybun | I think it looks great | 16:28 |
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| yofel | apachelogger: you do realize that if you stuff everything into one branch and change something there it will trigger builds for *everything* | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | yofel: lol? | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | who am I? a launchpad dev? | 16:42 |
| yofel | apachelogger: well, if that branch is linked in all the recipes using nest-part, that will happen | 16:42 |
| yofel | that's why our neon's shared stuff is in a seperate package not linked in the recipes | 16:42 |
| yofel | s/our // | 16:43 |
| kubotu | yofel meant: "that's why neon's shared stuff is in a seperate package not linked in the recipes" | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | I am not sure you understand | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | I am rewriting the entire recipe stuff | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | so we define the behavior | 16:43 |
| yofel | oh, without using launchpad? | 16:43 |
| yofel | hm... | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | launchpad cannot be used for kde frameworks 5 | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | ever | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | qt repos had submodules | 16:44 |
| yofel | that, I already realized... | 16:44 |
| yofel | apachelogger: I'll think about that and come back to you later | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | okey | 16:45 |
| * ahoneybun is interested | 16:46 | |
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| yofel | shadeslayer, Quintasan ^ if you want to give some input too | 16:51 |
| yofel | symlink_duplicates.sh from oxygen-icons does something weird in 4.10.3... http://paste.kde.org/741776 and http://paste.kde.org/741782 should match, but don't | 16:58 |
| Riddell | tools-wizard.png looks wrong | 17:02 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: now look at the trello page | 17:03 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: making progress! | 17:06 |
| ahoneybun | yep | 17:07 |
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| ahoneybun | I wonder where valorie is | 17:08 |
| yofel | Riddell: not really, from a quick look fdupes is right and they are the same thing | 17:09 |
| Riddell | spooky | 17:09 |
| yofel | it's just that the symlinking is different and that seems to mess with another linking script embedded in rules | 17:10 |
| yofel | what was /usr/share/icons/hicolor/ for again? | 17:11 |
| Riddell | it's for icons not in an icon theme | 17:12 |
| Riddell | if you search for KIcon("foo") it'll look in oxygen then hicolour to find it | 17:12 |
| yofel | then why do we symlink oxygen icons into hicolor o.O? (or rather debian does it) | 17:13 |
| yofel | ln -s ../../../oxygen/$${size}x$${size}/apps/$${icon}.png debian/$${package}/usr/share/icons/hicolor/$${size}x$${size}/apps; | 17:13 |
| yofel | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons/view/head:/debian/rules | 17:14 |
| yofel | rather | 17:14 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: I'm thinking it would look better with bullets listing the directory then pictures | 17:15 |
| Riddell | yofel: app icons are needed in hicolour | 17:19 |
| Riddell | yofel: so that non-KDE desktops can find it, they won't know anything about oxygen | 17:19 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: what would? | 17:20 |
| ahoneybun | the Linux Basics, the way the file system is layed out in / | 17:20 |
| yofel | Riddell: ah ok, then I'll do this the quick fix way and just exclude plasmagik from the linking as that's in plasmate-data | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: me and apachelogger have been talking in real life :P | 17:43 |
| yofel | consider yourself unpinged then :P | 17:43 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: where is that email? | 17:53 |
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| valorie | oops, what email? | 21:01 |
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| valorie | ahoneybun: by which I mean, which email address shall I send it to? | 21:35 |
| yofel | apachelogger_: I can't think of any reason except recipe-atomity to keep the packaging branches seperate for daily builds. As long as you can trivially generate packages from subfolders of a branch keeping everything together would be easiest | 21:37 |
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