[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> bambam1: BluesKaj_ ain't here
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> He'll be back tomorrow
[00:07] <bambam1> SonikkuAmerica: Okay, thanks
[00:07] <bambam1> One issue though
[00:08] <bambam1> I started Kubuntu for the first time and I can't find the start menu to access applications and what have you
[00:08] <bambam1> http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news-700/Kubuntu-13-04-Daily-Build-Launched-Features-KDE-4-9-2.png?1352359040
[00:08] <bambam1> It's like the K icon disappeared
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> It should be in the bottom left corner of the screen unless you moved it
[00:08] <bambam1> I did not, this is a fresh install
[00:08] <bambam1> I wasn't able to see it at all
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> You should be able to put it (or Homerun in 13.04) back
[00:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Is your screen too large for your monitor?
[00:09] <bambam1> I figured that might be the issue
[00:09] <bambam1> I have two monitors
[00:09] <bambam1> I've been playing around with the display settings, disabling one monitor
[00:09] <bambam1> still see the same issue
[00:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Why do you still want the daily build anyway?
[00:10] <bambam1> I don't, it was just a screenshot
[00:10] <bambam1> I fetched whatever iso was on the Kubuntu website
[00:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh.
[00:10] <SonikkuAmerica> I was about to say, that's NOT how the Kubuntu live CD desktop looks AT ALL.
[00:11] <bambam1> Nope
[00:11] <SonikkuAmerica> System Settings > Display and Monitor > Display Config'n
[00:11] <bambam1> Also, I'm not sure if my computer is just slow but when do you typically expect the login sound to play?
[00:12] <bambam1> I was there already, SonikkuAmerica
[00:12] <bambam1> It seemed like it played completely at random, well after the login animation was done
[00:12] <SonikkuAmerica> After the desktop pops up
[00:12] <bambam1> I see
[00:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah, that's where it's been since Day 1
[00:40] <bambam1> Could someone help me disable akonadi server? I'm looking at documentation but it seems outdated
[00:47] <bambam1> Without breaking anything important
[01:09] <bambam1> Anyone?
[01:09] <bambam1> >200 members and nobody present?
[01:13] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[01:15] <bambam1> hello
[01:59] <Runemoro_> When I do "X -configure" it tells me "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices."
[01:59] <Runemoro_> Can anyone help me?
[01:59] <Obsidian1723> What is it that you're trying to do?
[02:00] <Runemoro_> Obsidian1723: My computer boots into failsafe mode automaticly, and I thought X -xonfigure would fix it
[02:00] <Runemoro_> Obsidian1723: configure*
[02:00] <Obsidian1723> well, you would do dpkg-reconfigure
[02:00] <Runemoro_> I already did
[02:00] <Runemoro_> No difference
[02:01] <Obsidian1723> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:01] <Obsidian1723> or no sudo if logged in as root
[02:01] <Runemoro_> Yes, It gives me no output
[02:01] <Obsidian1723> You ran that exact command?
[02:01] <Runemoro_> And it doesn't fix the problem
[02:01] <Runemoro_> Yes
[02:02] <Obsidian1723> Did you tail /var/log/messages and check dmesg ?
[02:02] <Runemoro_> tail: cannot open â/var/log/messagesâ for reading: No such file or directory
[02:03] <Obsidian1723>  tail -f /var/log/messages
[02:03] <Obsidian1723> that does nothing?
[02:03] <Runemoro_> No such file or directory
[02:03] <Obsidian1723> ls /var/log
[02:03] <Obsidian1723> anything?
[02:03] <Runemoro_> alternatives.log  dmesg.2.gz      lastlog           unattended-upgrades apt               dmesg.3.gz      lxdm.log          upstart auth.log          dmesg.4.gz      lxdm.log.old      wtmp boot              dpkg.log        mail.err          Xorg.0.log boot.log          faillog         mail.log          Xorg.0.log.old btmp              fontconfig.log  news              Xorg.1.log ConsoleKit        fsck            pm-powersave.log 
[02:04] <Obsidian1723> You have some missing logs files. Not a good sign.
[02:04] <Runemoro_> Ubuntu minimal
[02:04] <Runemoro_> I only came hare because #ubuntu is ignoring me
[02:04] <Obsidian1723> Was this system comprimised? Minimal should still have that, it's a core log file.
[02:05] <Runemoro_> No, I just installed it
[02:05] <Obsidian1723> ok
[02:05] <Obsidian1723> what does this say? uname -a
[02:05] <Runemoro_> Linux ubuntu 3.8.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 1 16:36:13 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:06] <Obsidian1723> older kernel
[02:06] <Obsidian1723> but no biggie there.
[02:06] <Runemoro_> I used the raring cd
[02:06] <Obsidian1723> So you just installed it, and you aren't getting any x session at all?
[02:07] <Obsidian1723> raring cd?
[02:07] <Runemoro_> Raring minimal cd
[02:07] <Obsidian1723> Not familliar with it.
[02:07] <Runemoro_> The 30 MB one
[02:07] <Runemoro_> That uses the internet
[02:07] <Obsidian1723> Is it a supported distro of Ubuntu? or a custom spin by someone else?
[02:07] <Obsidian1723> Ok, so it's a net install.
[02:07] <Runemoro_> Yes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:07] <Obsidian1723> ok
[02:08] <Obsidian1723> So you installed and what happened where at?
[02:08] <Runemoro_> I installed core only
[02:08] <Obsidian1723> Take me step by step please.
[02:08] <Runemoro_> Then I installed gdm
[02:08] <Runemoro_> And then cinnamon
[02:08] <Runemoro_> The computer starts
[02:08] <Obsidian1723> 2 DEs?
[02:08] <Runemoro_> No
[02:08] <Runemoro_> gdm is the manager
[02:09] <Runemoro_> I then installed Xorg
[02:09] <Obsidian1723> ah you didnt install gnome, just the manager only, ok.
[02:09] <Runemoro_> And rebooted
[02:09] <Runemoro_> It rebooted with the failsafe cursor
[02:09] <Runemoro_> gdm looked weird
[02:09] <Obsidian1723> and then what happened? What were the exact errors given?
[02:10] <Runemoro_> No error, but everything looked like in failsafe mode
[02:10] <Obsidian1723> Weird. Cinnamon needs gdm?
[02:10] <Runemoro_> It wouldn't start without it
[02:10] <Obsidian1723> Are you perhaps missing some dependancies?
[02:10] <Runemoro_> Cinnamon doesn't have it's own dm I think
[02:11] <Runemoro_> How do I check?
[02:11] <Obsidian1723> log files. That's really the key, start digging into things, but you are missing /var/log/messages, which is disconcerning to me.
[02:12] <Runemoro_> Also, my home folder is gone
[02:12] <Runemoro_> ls /home is blank
[02:12] <Obsidian1723> If you re-install, then install x only, does it run? If so, then the problem may be with gdm. I left gnome behind after 2.0, and I've only played with Cinnamon, MATE since I now prefer KDE.
[02:12] <Obsidian1723> You may want to just nuke and pave and start over.
[02:13] <Obsidian1723> Vs. spending time trying to figure this out.
[02:13] <Obsidian1723> Especiecially if it's a new install.
[02:13] <Runemoro_> Ok, but cinnamon doesn't need a DM?
[02:13] <Obsidian1723> format ? install Linux ? install xserver > does it work?
[02:13] <Runemoro_> Yes
[02:13] <Runemoro_> I'll do that
[02:13] <Obsidian1723> yeah, all DEs need a WM.
[02:14] <Obsidian1723> but if you do what I said, then you know it's not the base install or x.
[02:14] <Obsidian1723> could be gdm or cinnamon, I don't know. Need to play detective and suss out what's going on and the only weay to do that is to look at processes running, log files, etc data like that. It's 10% fixing the problem and 90% investigating it.
[02:15] <Obsidian1723> Otherwise, you spin in circles guessing, chasing your own tail and getting nowhere fast.
[02:15] <Obsidian1723> sand probably cuasing more problems as you try and fix one other one.
[02:15] <Obsidian1723> -s
[02:16] <Obsidian1723> Being methodical is key to proper investigation.
[02:17] <Obsidian1723> but agauin, since this is a new system, N&P, reinstall like that. It may be gdm, I don't know. You could always try another WM, dunno what other ones worth with Cinnamon or not. Could always try another DE too.
[02:17] <Obsidian1723> Do you just want a DE or do you want that specific DE?
[02:17] <Obsidian1723> How much of a PITA problem are you willing to deal with or not?
[02:19] <Runemoro_> I'm reinstalling it right now
[02:20] <Runemoro_> Is it possible that it might have become corrupt for some reason?
[02:21] <Runemoro_> Also, I want that DE
[02:21] <Obsidian1723> possible, especially with a net install that something didn't get over right.
[02:21] <Obsidian1723> Maybe find out if another WM will work with that DE.
[02:21] <Runemoro_> Don't they get checked?
[02:22] <Runemoro_> Lxdm didn't work, Lightdm is too big
[02:22] <Obsidian1723> I would think so, yes... and the way TCP/IP works, lost packets should be re-sent, but, can you trust anything 100%?
[02:22] <Runemoro_> mdm didn't either
[02:22] <Obsidian1723> fvwm ?
[02:22] <Obsidian1723> that may be a bit old tho.
[02:24] <Runemoro_> I'm installing it on my friend's computer, and he really wants Cinnamon
[02:34] <claycorn> how do i install java?
[02:35] <Obsidian1723> via apt-get
[02:36] <claycorn> didnt work
[02:36] <Obsidian1723> What command did you type exactly?
[02:37] <claycorn> via apt-get
[02:37] <Obsidian1723> You install java via the apt-get program
[02:37] <claycorn> i got java from the web site first
[02:38] <claycorn> opened the file
[02:38] <Obsidian1723> You could also use the GUI via the Software Center, Synaptic, lots of ways to do it.
[02:38] <claycorn> is java listed on the software center?
[02:38] <claycorn> or under another name ?
[02:38] <Obsidian1723> It's better to install from the repos since source installs, or installs from stand alone packages don't get updated.
[02:39] <Obsidian1723> sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[02:39] <claycorn> looks like that worked :)
[02:40] <Obsidian1723> Always use the repos if possible.
[02:40] <claycorn> thank you
[02:40] <Obsidian1723> Anytime :)
[02:40] <claycorn> im loving kumbuntu <3
[02:41] <claycorn> far better than mint
[02:41] <claycorn> or cinnamon
[02:41] <Obsidian1723> Well, cinnamon is merely a desktop, not a Linux distro like Linux Mint and Kubuntu are.
[02:42] <claycorn> true im am learning a little every day
[02:42] <claycorn> im weening myself off windows
[02:42] <claycorn> off
[02:42] <Obsidian1723> You have the core os, kernel, programs, etc, then on top if it sits the xserver, on top of that, a windowing manager like gdm, fvwm, mir, etc, on top of that, if you choose, a DE like Gnome, KDE, Enlightenment, MATE, Cinnamon.
[02:43] <Obsidian1723> You can mix WM (Windowing Managers) with DEs (Desktop Environments)
[02:43] <Obsidian1723> right on.
[02:43] <claycorn> ohhhh must try that
[02:43] <Obsidian1723> You know how Windows has the explorer shell?
[02:43] <claycorn> yes
[02:44] <Obsidian1723> and you can modify it, like with LitStep, which somewhat replaces it, but it never really gets rid of the exploer shell off of the Windows box?
[02:44] <Obsidian1723> Not so with Linux. It cna be completely removed, or not GUI at all, like how most Linux servers run,.
[02:44] <Obsidian1723> With Windows, the cake may have 7 layers, but it
[02:45] <Obsidian1723> 's  a solid cake.
[02:45] <claycorn> all run from the terminal?;
[02:45] <Obsidian1723> With Linux, those cake layers can be swapped out or completely removed.
[02:45] <Obsidian1723> yes,.
[02:45] <Obsidian1723> All GUI programs are generally just GTK or Qt front-ends for the command line real programs.
[02:45] <claycorn> gosh i know you can run vlc on the terminal
[02:46] <Obsidian1723> Some things cannot be done in a GUI and must be done from the command line, like confugiring iptables. There are commands just not available for it in a GUI.
[02:46] <Obsidian1723> yup.
[02:46] <Obsidian1723> Everything you do on Linux has a command line syntax for it and is ran via a command line program, even if there is a GUI for it.
[02:46] <Obsidian1723> but again, the GUIs are limited.
[02:47] <claycorn> are you a gui fan?
[02:47] <Obsidian1723> I run a script to setup my iptables.
[02:47] <Obsidian1723> I like GUIs, but when I started computing, we really didn't have them,.
[02:47] <claycorn> oh
[02:48] <Obsidian1723> They are nice, convienent, I use them a lot, but a lot of my heavby lifiting is done via bash scripts and the command line.
[02:49] <claycorn> for pcs with low memory kubuntu is a wise move
[02:49] <Obsidian1723> Lots of power in bash scripting, aliases, setting things up and then monitoring it.
[02:49] <Obsidian1723> ehhh not so much
[02:49] <claycorn> i dont know if i could do scrips
[02:49] <Obsidian1723> I like KDE, the DE for Kubuntu, but KDE has much more overhead than say LXDE, XFCE, etc, that's why there's Lubuntu, Xubuntu
[02:50] <claycorn> too many to choose
[02:50] <Obsidian1723> yeah, you could
[02:50] <claycorn> yeah if i studied it
[02:50] <claycorn> im getting lessions from a friend
[02:50] <claycorn> basic stuff
[02:50] <Obsidian1723> All Linux is the same really. It all stems from 3 core distros, Debian, Red Hat and Slackware. Everything forks from those 3. The main difference is the philosophy of design, the purpose for each distro.
[02:51] <claycorn> i write notes
[02:51] <Obsidian1723>  cool
[02:51] <claycorn> the look ?
[02:51] <claycorn> diff desktops
[02:52] <Obsidian1723> If you want stable, all free software, older software, Debian. If you like Debian, but want some newer software, somewhat stable, some bells and whistles, such as video codecs, etc, Ubuntu and the LTS version. If you want KDE on it, Kubuntu, XFCE, Xubuntu. If you like Ubuntu, but more bleeding edge, less stable, get the non-LTS version. If you want all the bells and whistels installed by default, Linux Mint.
[02:53] <Obsidian1723> The philosophy of design, the purpose for each distro
[02:53] <claycorn> yeah i tried mint
[02:53] <claycorn> was ok
[02:53] <claycorn> im seattled with k
[02:53] <Obsidian1723> All Red Hat versions use yum to install packages whereas all Debuian based use apt-get or aptitude, so there are some command differences in that way, but more about WHY each fork / distro was made
[02:54] <Obsidian1723> Debian > Ubuntu > Linux Mint
[02:54] <Obsidian1723> Ever see the Linux Timeline chart?
[02:54] <Obsidian1723> If not, it
[02:54] <claycorn> i have not
[02:54] <Obsidian1723> 's worth a trip to Google for it.
[02:54] <claycorn> and i will
[02:55] <Obsidian1723> For example, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, RHEL, is commerical, but what if you want it? but not pay for it? Well, there is Cent OS. Same upstream software repos, but different wallpapers, icons and some programs missing, but otherwise, the same thing.
[02:55] <Obsidian1723> Running the right distro of Linux is im[portant
[02:56] <Obsidian1723> If you want stable, running a non-LTS version of Ubuntu or Debian unstable or Debian testing isn't the wa yto go, nor is Arch.
[02:56] <Obsidian1723> Running the wrong distro causes problems. I see too many new users running an unstable version of Li nux when they just want it to work.
[02:57] <Obsidian1723> They think the newest, aka Ubuntu 13.04, is better than 12.04, the LTS, and it's not.
[02:57] <claycorn> yeah i found that out
[02:57] <claycorn> the os would not play nice
[02:57] <Obsidian1723> Non-LTS = beta for the NEXT LTS.
[02:57] <Obsidian1723> 14.03
[02:57] <Runemoro> Ok, installing is done
[02:57] <Obsidian1723> 14.04
[02:57] <Runemoro> Now what do I do?
[02:57] <Obsidian1723> install x Runemoro
[02:57] <Obsidian1723> See if it works
[02:58] <Obsidian1723> then install gdm
[02:58] <Obsidian1723> see if it works
[02:58] <Obsidian1723> check logs, investigate, etc as mentioned before.
[02:58] <Runemoro> sudo apt-get install Xorg?
[02:58] <Obsidian1723> I can't tell you ABCDE 123 fixed.
[02:59] <Obsidian1723> xserver-xorg
[02:59] <Runemoro> ok
[02:59] <Obsidian1723> then startx to start it up
[02:59] <Obsidian1723> then ps aux |grep xserver-xorg
[03:04] <Runemoro> I only have X and X -configure still says Number of created screens doesn't match the number of detected devices
[03:06] <kkerwin> Having difficulty installing bumblebee using the recipe here: http://eternalvoid.net/tutorials/linux-optimus-gt650m/ ... dkms fails to run. Anyone have experience using bumblebee for nvidia optimus cards?
[03:09] <Runemoro> Obsidian1723?
[03:10] <hanibana> hi, is it possible to use OSS in Kubuntu instead of ALSA sound system?
[03:11] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[03:17] <Runemoro> !netsplit
[03:17] <Runemoro> !
[03:17] <Runemoro> !help
[03:17] <Runemoro> !patience
[03:18] <Runemoro> !hello
[03:24] <mkk> i installed kubuntu 13.04. when i first log in, it appears to be there's two screens even though i actually have only one. it's a laptop. and when i launch any program they start on the second screen which is on the right side of my actual screen, and obviously i can't see them. is there a fix for this? is it a bug?
[03:39] <ahoneybun> mkk
[03:47] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm trying to get the nouveau driver to be blacklisted, and have it listed as "blacklist nouveau" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf. For some reason, though, while it worked a few reboots ago, the driver is now injected into the kernel.
[03:59] <Chardot> Hi o/
[03:59] <Chardot> Have anyone installed Kubuntu on a MacBook pro?
[04:11] <nick_omega> installed new graphics driver on kubuntu 12 and now an application does not run.  list of errors generated including 'X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[04:11] <nick_omega> ' and 'glXChooseVisual failed'
[04:11] <nick_omega> uninstall/reinstall the application or is there a better route?
[04:20] <bambam2> is there a way to make gtk apps in KDE look less hideous?
[04:53] <hellodavep> Where can I find detailed information about the WiFi network I am connected to? Such as DNS servers assigned via DHCP, Gateway, ect.
[04:56] <Chardot> hellodavep: open the terminal and type "iwconfig"; press enter.
[05:00] <hellodavep> thanks Chardot! That command, however, doesn't tell me any info about Gateway or DNS server. I do appreciate your help though!
[05:01] <Chardot> hellodavep: sorry, wrong command :P
[05:03] <hellodavep> Chardot: for future reference, some one in #ubuntu helped me out: the nm-tool command
[05:04] <Chardot> hellodavep: network-manager tool, yes
[05:04] <Chardot> Thankyou!
[07:43] <cjae> http://askubuntu.com/questions/254479/make-firefox-only-use-gtk-theme-on-browser-chrome-but-ignore-on-websites                    super win
[08:54] <SpartanF32> Hallo!
[08:59] <SpartanF32> After i installed proprietary AMD driver following the procedure as in the Unofficial Ati website, (worked fine for 12.10) i had a lot of kwin crashes so rolled back to driver of the repos. Now, i see some effect as kickoff blur or windows miniature on panel aren't enabled while in the effects configuration setting they're are checked. Does Exist a way to re-enable all as a fresh install or i should install all again?
[09:21] <bigbrovar> HI guys, anyone having issues getting blurtooth working on Kubuntu 13.04 (clean install)
[09:21] <bigbrovar> It seems only from the look of things. only it doesnt detect bluetooth devices even if one is standing on its head.. nor can it be detected :S
[09:46] <tabsterleir> Anyone know of a Plasmoid to show the output of a basic command? ie: Something to show the result of "uname -r"?
[09:46] <ronalds> good job on 13.04, homerunner seems unity alternative in kde everyone could be waiting for
[09:47] <ronalds> only kubuntu should come with orginal wallpapers, like ubuntu does
[09:54] <ToBeFree> I assume you already know that kubuntu.org is down for whatever reason?
[09:55] <ToBeFree> ah, fixed. Nevermind.^^
[10:39] <Graf_Westerholt> Linux froze again.
[10:42] <ronalds> what exactly froze
[10:44] <ronalds> tty windows by crtl-alt-f1234 for one of four tty windows, where you can run top, htop from console
[10:44] <Graf_Westerholt> ronalds, Linux. Since and and a half year. I cannot use the magic sysrq.
[10:44] <Graf_Westerholt> ronalds, that does not work. It is completly frozen.
[10:45] <ronalds> never been in situation where no tty left
[10:45] <ronalds> try recovery mode when turning on kubuntu
[10:45] <Graf_Westerholt> What does recovery mode do?
[10:46] <ronalds> mostly fix dependencies, broken packages
[10:46] <ronalds> gets safe mode graphics
[10:46] <ronalds> and stuff
[10:47] <Graf_Westerholt> ok
[10:50] <gregorius> меня слышно?
[10:53] <Graf_Westerholt> !ru | gregorius
[11:01] <gregorius> !ru
[11:53] <ronalds> anybody knows plasmoid that does similar pinning of apps as in windows 7
[11:57] <Sput> ronalds: icontasks
[12:01] <ronalds> can you give me instructions to install it?
[12:02] <ronalds> another thing, how can I get thumbnails to show
[12:02] <ronalds> in dolphin
[12:08] <ronalds> ok, I failed it's already there
[12:25] <ronalds> but thumbnails would be great
[12:29] <ronalds> failed again preview button is there
[12:32] <loucheboy> hello
[12:32] <loucheboy> does anyone know how I could get skype running on a chromebook with ubuntu dual booted?
[12:37] <goodtime> heh so its true , you can install linux on a chromebook
[12:38] <goodtime> loucheboy:  i dont think that your dual booted will matter but the rest i never ran skype.
[12:40] <loucheboy> ok, just wondering if it was possible
[12:40] <loucheboy> thanks
[12:40] <goodtime> im getting a chromebook now ill find one cheap out here in boston
[12:41] <goodtime> ty loucheboy
[12:44] <ronalds> which icon theme do you use with kde
[12:46] <goodtime> who me?
[12:46] <goodtime> i use many
[12:47] <goodtime> ronalds: im always changeing my many differnt themes
[12:50] <goodtime> ronalds:  do you mean the start menue icon theme?
[12:52] <loucheboy> it's really quiet
[12:56] <goodtime> yes
[12:56] <loucheboy> anyone do anything interesting?
[13:27] <ronalds> elementary from xfce looks better than oxygen for example
[13:27] <ronalds> why oxygen is default I don't know
[13:42] <Runemoro> Obsidian1723
[13:44] <BluesKaj_> hey folks
[14:06] <ronalds> how to show video thumbnails in dolphin?
[14:24] <dysin> #Anime-keep@irc.rizon.net
[14:27] <ronalds> video thumbnails in dolphin, anyone?
[14:31] <dysin> Sure?
[14:33] <BluesKaj_> ronalds, install kffmpegthumbnailer
[14:34] <ronalds> tnx
[14:40] <dschelpe> Hi anyone on that can help me?
[14:41] <dschelpe> I'm currently using ubuntu with the gnome desktop, and was wondering if I can change to the KDE desktop, or from here make a Kubuntu install
[14:41] <dschelpe> without the use of usb drive or discs
[14:42] <BluesKaj_> dschelpe, install kubuntu-desktop , then you can choose the desktop at the login menu
[14:42] <dschelpe> BluesKaj and after that I will be running Kubuntu?
[14:43] <dschelpe> also, after that can I safely remove the gnome desktop?
[14:44] <BluesKaj_> dschelpe,  you'll probly have to reboot and at login choose kubuntu in the menu , and yes you can remove the gnome -desktop
[14:44] <dschelpe> all via apt-get, right?
[14:44] <BluesKaj_> yes
[14:44] <dschelpe> thank you very much BluesKaj, will be on it now :-)
[14:45] <BluesKaj_> dschelpe, you'll have a lot of gtk-libs and apps left over , so you can run pure-kde if you want
[14:45] <BluesKaj_> !purekde
[15:33] <dschelpe> BluesKaj you still here?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> yes dschelpe
[15:34] <dschelpe> ah thank heavens lol
[15:34] <BluesKaj> what's the issue dschelpe
[15:34] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:34] <dschelpe> Well I used following commands via apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and install kde-full
[15:35] <dschelpe> got kdm at login, and kde wallpaper, then it switched back to ubuntu. Any ideas as to why?
[15:36] <dschelpe> I haven't removed gnome desktop just yet, was waiting to be in full kde environment to do that
[15:36] <BluesKaj> dschelpe, ok follow this
[15:36] <BluesKaj> !purekde
[15:36] <BluesKaj> this will install the right packages and apps for proper kde/kubuntu system
[15:37] <BluesKaj> I also have some suggestions after that's done
[15:37] <dschelpe> so exclamation mark followed by purekde in terminal?
[15:37] <dschelpe> and thanks for the lik ubottu
[15:37] <dschelpe> link even
[15:38] <BluesKaj> click on the URL posted there
[15:38] <dschelpe> done that
[15:39] <BluesKaj> follow the instructions , copy the commands in the box and paste them into the terminal , but make sure to update and upgrade first
[15:40] <dschelpe> ah getting some errors there about packages not found
[15:41] <dschelpe> gir1.2 launchpad integration and python and ubuntu sso client
[15:41] <BluesKaj> dschelpe, yes , it's not setup for 13.04 , sorry
[15:41] <dschelpe> eh lol k so where do we go from here?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:43] <dschelpe> k just a sec, found this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/pure-kubuntu-13-04/
[15:44] <BluesKaj> dschelpe,  good hunting , that's the one we needed all along , going to have talk with the devs about this
[15:45] <BluesKaj> ok run the configure command first , then copy and paste the the coomands and run them again
[15:46] <dschelpe> okay BluesKaj, will run your command first, then the one from the site
[15:47] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:49] <dschelpe> alright it's running now and removing  packages
[15:53] <BluesKaj> and it will also install the kde package defaults
[15:53] <BluesKaj> dschelpe,^
[15:54] <dschelpe> Lol got ya BluesKaj, and yes I hope so hehe
[15:54] <dschelpe> basiclly after all this I will be running the default Kubuntu system?
[15:54] <dschelpe> basically*
[15:55] <BluesKaj> dschelpe, just to be sure , once that is done , install kde-plasma-desktop kubuntu-default-settings kde-config-gtk-style
[15:56] <dschelpe> after removing gnome is done? as a install command?
[15:57] <dschelpe> okay thank you BluesKaj, you've been most helpful and patient with me, will be back in a sec
[15:57] <BluesKaj> yes dschelpe , sudo apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop kubuntu-default-settings kde-config-gtk-style
[15:58] <Obsidian1723> Runemoro: ever get your issue resolved?
[15:58] <BluesKaj> this command is merely to make sure you have the full desktop
[15:58] <BluesKaj> dschelpe,^
[16:01] <dschelpe> okies, BluesKaj, thanks, it's still removing gnome packages though so I'll wait. and look up plasma, thanks for your assistance :)
[16:03] <BluesKaj> dschelpe, yes removing a full desktop and installing a new one can take some time . I hope you enjoy kde/kubuntu as much as I do and welcome to Kubuntu ! :)
[16:04] <dschelpe> Thank you, my first linux experience was kde, only turned to gnome after using osx
[16:04]  * BluesKaj nods
[16:06] <BluesKaj> ok , I have to leave for today , so if you have any issues after the install , there many here who can help , also in #kde channel if needed . Bye for now
[16:10] <dschelpe> bye BluesKaj
[17:08] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[17:15] <bodom> Hi there! I have a problem since last upgrade: when i tell KDE to eject any memory card in my card reader, it will power off the whole reader and all cards instead
[17:35] <Runemoro> Obsidian1723: I'm back, and no, It's not fixed
[17:36] <Runemoro> X -configure still says "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices."
[17:45] <bodom> anyone?
[19:49] <Bombesly> Not sure what I'm at here
[20:14] <kuf> Hi there, could anybody help me with an issue regarding an upgrade from kubuntu form 12.10 to 13.04.?
[20:14] <kuf> Problem is that kde desktop does not start anymore!
[20:15] <kuf> Happened on two machines now.
[20:15] <kuf> The solution on the first machine was to make a fresh install.
[20:15] <SonikkuAmerica> kuf: It doesn't start?
[20:15] <diiphantom> they all must be wathcing football, or soccer .... xD
[20:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Do you get a tty login?
[20:15] <kuf> However, this seems to be a systematic error!
[20:15] <kuf> I can login.
[20:16] <SonikkuAmerica> diiphantom: lol
[20:16] <kuf> However, the screen is blanc
[20:16] <kuf> the kde start up signs do not show up
[20:16] <SonikkuAmerica> O_o
[20:16] <kuf> so kde seems not to start at all
[20:16] <SonikkuAmerica> You might try [ sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop ] to start, if you don't mind a giant download
[20:17] <kuf> yes, already tried that
[20:17] <SonikkuAmerica> *Actually that won't do too much though.
[20:17] <kuf> no progress!
[20:17] <kuf> I also cleared the cach in /var/tmp
[20:17] <kuf> suggested in another post somewhere
[20:17] <kuf> no progress
[20:17] <SonikkuAmerica> How about the APT cache?
[20:17] <kuf> hmmm
[20:17] <kuf> apt cache
[20:17] <kuf> what would that mean?
[20:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Wait...
[20:18] <kuf> is this a command?
[20:18] <SonikkuAmerica> [ sudo apt-get clean ; cd /var/lib/apt ; sudo mv lists lists.old ; sudo mkdir -p lists/partial ; sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get update ]
[20:18] <SonikkuAmerica> ^ That is
[20:19] <kuf> ok, thanks i try
[20:19] <kuf> give me a minute
[20:19] <SonikkuAmerica> And then reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[20:21] <kuf> ok, it is in progress, I tell you when i am finished
[20:33] <kuf> ok, done! but no success! :-(
[20:33] <kuf> just the same as before
[20:34] <kuf> I get the login screen
[20:34] <kuf> I try to login
[20:34] <kuf> but when kde tries to start
[20:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Did you try a fresh install on the other machine?
[20:35] <kuf> I only see the window where the kde icons should show up one after the other where the last is the kde icon itself
[20:35] <kuf> but the window immedieately disappears again
[20:35] <kuf> yes, on the other machine
[20:35] <kuf> i just killed the system
[20:35] <SonikkuAmerica> But not on this one.
[20:35] <kuf> and after a fresh install everything worked fine
[20:35] <kuf> no
[20:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Perhaps "Reinstall" on the live media is a good choice then.
[20:36] <kuf> on this one I still try to safe the upgraded system
[20:36] <kuf> all I wouldl want to have is that the desktop starts as it should
[20:37] <SonikkuAmerica> A reinstall will save your self-installed programs and files, but clear system settings
[20:37] <kuf> is the partitionning and fstab maintained in a reinstall?
[20:38] <SonikkuAmerica> It should be; why would the system mess with fstab and partitions it's not touching?
[20:40] <kuf> I am just asking. It's no real problem. I backed up my data already anyway. Howev,er, I would be glad if I managed to do the reinstall without the need to write everything back to the disk.
[20:40] <kuf> I meam my user data
[20:41] <SonikkuAmerica> User data is saved during the "Reinstall" (using that option instead of the others) (if it's not on the live media let me know)
[21:01] <kuf> Actuallly, I don't see a reinstall option, the only option which I get is install.
[21:02] <kuf> Unfortunately, I seem to have a very bad day today because the first try of install resullted in a kernel panic and the second now is stuck.
[21:03] <kuf> I have a problem with the screen on this machine anway because it is connected to a Samsung TV set and there seems to be an over/under scan issue
[21:04] <kuf> in the resolution of 1920x1080 the borders of the display are missing
[21:04] <kuf> I do not know how to swith the screen to underscan to see all the information which actually should be visible
[21:04] <SonikkuAmerica> You may wish to check your screen borders with your TV remote.
[21:05] <kuf> anyway, could you tell me how I would initiate a reinstall from a normal installation medium?
[21:05] <kuf> no, I wont
[21:06] <kuf> I used to switch to 1650x1050 and this worked fine with a complete install
[21:06] <kuf> I do not want to mess around with the screen settings
[21:06] <kuf> and then havee the down side when I want to watch Tv
[21:08] <SonikkuAmerica> kuf: What do you mean by that?
[21:08] <kuf> dont worry about this
[21:08] <kuf> could please somebody tell me how I coud initiate a reinstall?
[21:09] <kuf> because with the install medium which I downloaded
[21:09] <kuf> I only see an option to do a complete fresh install
[21:09] <kuf> and this will kill my user settings
[21:11] <kuf> the install medium does not seem to realize that there alreaady is an kubunt 13.04 installed
[21:11] <kuf> it suggest to do an install on a fresh partition
[21:11] <kuf> which of course will destroy what was at this palce before
[21:11] <kuf> I of course can do the partiioning manually
[21:12] <kuf> and this is what I always do
[21:12] <kuf> however, this will result in a replacement of the old kubuntu 13.04  without saving the information about users etc. pp.
[21:53] <sha1sum> Hey all. I'm having a bit of an issue that I've now googled for an hour with no progress. I have an HP DV7 laptop whose internal analog stereo and HDMI audio devices were working beautifully in OpenSUSE but now in Kubuntu I have only the interal analog stereo in kmix (and pavucontrol)
[21:53] <sha1sum> weird thing is, there are two cards in alsamixer, so it looks like alsa recognizes it and pulseaudio does not
[21:54] <sha1sum> Even the audio hardware settings show only the one device.
[21:55] <sha1sum> Just kind of weird that it would be working beautifully in an older revision of KDE 4 with an older kernel, and now with a brand spankin' new kernel and KDE 4 revision, no dice.
[23:05] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[23:28] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[23:37] <Runemoro> Hello
[23:38] <Runemoro> .
[23:38] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[23:39] <sha1sum> Hey all. KMix is not recognizing my HDMI audio playback device, but alsamixer lists it. Where do I start in these situations?
[23:45] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[23:45] <Runemoro> What is *.net *.split
[23:45] <Runemoro> Oh
[23:52] <Runemoro> Obsidian1723, can you help me fix the problem?