[00:31] <Rus> Hi. im having a problem setting up apt-mirror. i deleted the lock file. but now have the following issue: proceed indexes:[Ssh cannot open archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/source/Sources.gz: No such file. (next line) apt-mirror: can't open index in proceed_index_gz at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 449. Can someone please help?
[00:32] <jea> Hi Rus. I haven't actually set up an apt-mirror before, but I can try to help
[00:33] <jea> jared has set one up, so might know more (but might not be around at the moment)
[00:33] <Rus> hi jea. Wow thanks for that. well im willing if you are : )
[00:34] <Rus> jea. i am a newbie with linux and ubuntu.
[00:34] <Rus> so i have now idea what to do next.
[00:34] <jea> Welcome to Ubuntu then :)
[00:34] <Rus> thanks jea : )
[00:35] <jea> could you paste your mirror.list file into http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and paste the link here please?
[00:36] <Rus> jea. ive been trying to make sense of the stuff on the internet about apt-mirror. and have tried to follow the instruction on issues that arise eg. deleting the lock file. Okay. 1 moment.
[00:38] <Rus> jea. you mean the one located in /etc/apt ?
[00:41] <Rus> jea. paste.ubuntu.com/5652945 i think : )
[00:45] <Rus> Hello??? is anyone here??? am i still here???
[00:46] <jea> I wasn't gone for that long
[00:47] <jea> Rus: I am back now. was just called away for a few minutes
[00:48] <Rus> jea. oh phew. no worries. i thought i must have done something wrong.
[00:49] <Rus> seeming that im the newbie : )
[00:49] <jea> no, you were still here
[00:49] <Rus> well so far. so good : )
[00:51] <Rus> jea. i have not edited the mirror.list file since ive installed apt-mirror.
[00:51] <jea> I am just trying to track down possible options
[00:51] <jea> ok
[00:52] <Rus> jea. oh thanks. ive done the same. but im not understanding most of what i read : (
[00:55] <jea> sudo /usr/bin/apt-mirror
[00:55] <jea> sudo /var/spool/apt-mirror/var/clean.sh
[00:55] <jea> what happens if you run them?
[00:55] <jea> note: running as sudo is not always a good idea, but might help to track the issue
[00:55] <Rus> jea. never tried. will try now. one moment please.
[00:58] <Rus> Okay. just typed in first command. and recieved the following... apt-mirror is already running, exiting at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 187
[00:58] <Rus> shall i type in second command now?
[00:58] <jea> ok
[00:58] <jea> um, not sure
[00:58] <Rus> i think this error means i need to delete the lock file.
[00:59] <jea> um, not really
[00:59] <jea> it means there is already an instance fo that running
[00:59] <jea> *of
[01:00] <Rus> oh. Okay. : )
[01:05] <jea> actually, yes, you probably should delete the lock file
[01:05] <jea> which I think will be located here
[01:05] <jea>  /var/spool/apt-mirror/var/apt-mirror.lock
[01:27] <jea> Rus: you should delete the lock file
[01:27] <jea> http://nwlinux.com/configure-an-ubuntu-repo-mirror/
[01:27] <jea> well, that makes it hard
[01:34] <Rus> jea. do know when might be the best time to try and catch jared?
[01:36] <jea> Rus: no, not entirely sure sorry
[01:36] <jea> http://nwlinux.com/configure-an-ubuntu-repo-mirror/
[01:36] <jea> I was reading that
[01:37] <jea> and this 
[01:37] <jea> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-599479.html
[01:38] <Rus> Okay. i will just have to keep an eye out him him. i hope i am not keeping you from what you are wanting to do. and i thank you for your time and attention.
[01:38] <jea> that is alright
[01:38] <jea> askubuntu is good, as are the forums
[01:38] <jea> also, is there a reason you are using lucid?
[01:39] <jea> because from memory it is no longer supported, so it might be harder to get help
[01:39] <Rus> jea. are you from oz? yeah. the problem is that im newy to linux. and the solutions posted are still hard for me to understand.
[01:40] <Rus> jea. yes. i have old pc's. i have been using 10.04 for the last year or 2. just to do basic things like web surfing. the odd letter.
[01:40] <jea> Yes, I am from Australia (Brisbane)
[01:41] <Rus> jea. oh Cool. im in sydney.
[01:41] <jea> Ok. I guess if you are able to, you might find a newer version to help with some things - newer packages, etc
[01:41] <jea> there are a few people from Sydney in Ubuntu-AU
[01:42]  * nrdb__ Portland, NSW myself
[01:42] <Rus> jea. oh Okay. i'll keep that in mind(new packages). well i hope to get to chat with them. am nearly thinking about paying someone to set up this apt mirror.
[01:43] <jea> what are you trying to get the apt mirror for?
[01:43] <jea> I think tpg has an unmetered repository
[01:43] <Rus> hi nrdb__. where is portland in nsw near?
[01:43] <nrdb__> Rus, Bathurst
[01:44] <jea> actually, I appear to be wrong. there is no unmetered ubuntu repository
[01:44] <Rus> jea. thats handy to know. i hear i will need to download at least 30Gb for the mirror. im am not unlimited downloads : (
[01:44] <jea> for tpg
[01:45] <Rus> arrrr damn : (
[01:45] <jea> i see why you might like it now
[01:45] <Rus> what do you mean jea?
[01:46] <jea> Well, you would want the offline copy so you only download once and use it across all computers you have
[01:46] <Rus> my main reason for 10.04. is that it runs quite well for my old pc's. but 12.04 gives them a cornary : (
[01:46] <Rus> jea. yes. exactly.
[01:47] <nrdb__> jea, have a look at approx
[01:47] <nrdb__> jea, it keeps a local copy of any packages download, for reuse latter
[01:48] <jea> Yes, I am aware of it
[01:48] <jea> but I don't need such a cache, due to having unmetered access to mirror.aarnet.edu.au through bigpond
[01:49] <nrdb__> I have infinite download so I am not worried myself ether.
[01:52] <nrdb__> I have a VM that is dropping straight into a root shell, but I can't find out why, when I exit the shell it boots OK... this appeared to happen after removing apparmor (I don't know if that is important) ... but I do need the boot to proceed without stoping.
[01:52] <Rus2> coz i tend to use my 10.04 for a month or 2. then it seems to get bogged up from all the web surfing. so i just pop in the cd. use a fresh install. but now that the support for 10.04 is going/gone. i was hoping to keep a mirror here at home.
[01:54] <jea> Rus2: maybe something liku lubuntu would work better
[01:54] <Rus2> sorry i think i had to change my name.
[01:54] <jea> it is a lightweight desktop environment that should run on older computers
[01:54] <jea> jared could help with that also
[01:55] <Rus2> jea. yes. i have downloaded a copy recently. i am just use to and feel a little more familiar and safer with my 10.04.
[01:56] <Rus2> jea. is jarred from oz also?
[01:56] <Rus2> nrdb__. i use to live in portland......... Victoria ; )
[01:57] <jea> Jared is the Ubuntu-Au Team Contact, and is also from Brisbane
[01:59] <Rus2> jea. sounds awesome(ubuntu expert). does sydney have one/any?
[02:00] <jea> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/ContactUs
[02:01] <jea> There is nobody listed for Sydney, but I am sure there is someone
[02:06] <jea> There is a team meeting here tomorrow night
[02:06] <jea> Jared should be there then if you want to ask questions, Rus2 
[02:06] <jea> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/574/detail/
[02:23] <Rus2> sorry. im not sure why my machine keeps disconnecting.
[04:52] <jared> jea: I actually cheated and just ran it as a stand alone webserver.
[04:52] <jared> I didn't bother with apt-mirror
[04:56] <jea> jared: oh, oops
[04:56] <jea> I thought you had done it with apt-mirror
[04:57] <jea> I will let Rus know next time he is on
[04:59] <jared> Nah that's alright. I then used some DNS config to make ubuntu.com and au.ubuntu.com to the laptop I rand it on. That then had the external usb drive set up with an rsync of the entire mirror
[05:00] <jared> So both archives and releases were available.
[05:00] <jea> that almost sounds more complicated than apt-mirror (from the little I know about it)
[05:01] <jared> Yeah but it was more flexible as well.
[05:01] <jea> That would be worth it then
[05:02] <jared> Because that laptop was also running as a gateway and router for the network.
[05:06] <jea> ah, well that makes more sense then
[05:19] <jared> I'm not going to be able to be available for this month's meeting but I need to start a topic off so I'll be adding an agenda item if people want to discuss it
[05:22] <jea> Ok, sure
[05:22] <jea> I will lead it if you want
[05:22] <jared> We've had notification we're due this cycle for re-approval
[05:22] <jared> So I wanted to start the discussion on if it's worth preparing an application
[05:22] <jea> Ah, I suspected that was coming
[05:23] <jea> I must say I am not sure if it is worth it
[05:24] <jea> As much as I want us to, we just don't do enough to warrant it
[05:25] <jared> I'm happy for people to step up and have a crack. but as it is I'm on the same opinion you have.
[05:27] <jea> Maybe in a year we will have a few more people doing things, and then it would be easier to reapply
[05:28] <jea> As an unregistered team, can we still request one of the ubuntu packs?
[05:29] <jared> Yes, they're smaller and have less resources though.
[05:29] <jared> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences
[05:29] <jea> because I think one might be good for the event I will run at uni at the start of next semester
[05:29] <jea> Do you still have the banners, etc?
[05:29] <jared> Ah, bear in mind it can take 6 or more weeks to receive the items so might need to start thinking about ordering
[05:30] <jared> Yep, I still have banners and posters
[05:30] <jea> Cool. I haven't got a date yet, but probably week 2 of semester 2
[05:31] <jared> I'd still be putting in the order in the next week or two if you wanted to be sure to receive the goods in time.
[05:31] <jared> Usually they aren't too bad, but sometimes it gets held up in transit
[05:31] <jared> I'm assuming that week 2 is in early July?
[05:31] <jea> Ok. I assume we can request them for things other than conferences?
[05:32] <jea> I think it is
[05:32] <jea> I will try to find a calendar
[05:32] <jared> As long as they're events that are promoting Ubuntu it should be fine, we got it for an open day.
[05:32] <jea> Ok. It will be an intro to linux, and I was going to use Ubuntu for it all
[05:32] <jared> Sounds good to me :)
[05:33] <jared> Presentation to the course, class, whole uni in general or at an open day?
[05:33] <jea> I am going to link it to a course, and the lecturer of that course recommends debian based distros (ubuntu for most, or raw debian if you are ready for it)
[05:33] <jea> It will be open to anyone
[05:34] <jea> Week 2 starts on 29/7
[05:35] <jared> Cool, well I'd have the order requested by the end of this month then. Gives you an extra week or two
[05:36] <jea> Ok. Are you the one to put the request in?
[05:37] <jared> Yeah it has to come from the team contact but I can have it sent directly to you.
[05:37] <jea> Ok. I will get the details written up and send them through to you
[05:37] <jea> Does it matter if the date is not 100% certain yet?
[05:38] <jared> I'd just set it as the Saturday prior for now and note that it's subject to change.
[05:38] <jared> And to make it easier to show linking if you can make it a loco.u.c event that will help
[05:38] <jea> Ok, that sounds fine
[05:39] <jared> In the past I've essentially just copied the template email listed and put in my own information. So if you ahve enough information to fill that template email in that's when you know you have enough info really
[05:39] <jea> Great. That makes it easy
[05:43] <jared> Alrighty, agenda item added, email sent.
[05:46] <jared> I really should have a look at some uni work today so I'll be around but not paying muchu attention. Feel free to email any questions through but I think the template (once you scroll across) is pretty easy to see what's needed.
[05:50] <jea> Ok. Thanks for your help. Have fun with your study
[16:54] <Rus> hi. i am trying to set up apt-mirror, but can't seem to get it to work. if someone could help, it will be most appreciated.