=== meetingology` is now known as meetingology === meetingology` is now known as meetingology [20:42] * Faissl is بيضرب كلاكس [20:43] :D [20:43] * Faissl poking Darko [20:44] ezzayak ya faisal :) [20:44] الحمد لله [20:44] ana mesh ba5osh 3al IRC keteer , fa momken a3raf ezay awageh kalam le7ad mo3ayan hena ? [20:44] * Faissl بيحب هذا الاختراع [20:45] Darko, السوشيال ميديا يا عزيزي، دمرت حياتنا [20:45] aywa zy de [20:45] bete3mel de ezay ? [20:45] Darko, بتكتب أول حرف أو حرفين من الاسم وبتدوس تاب [20:46] Faissl, tamam (Y) :) [20:46] Darko, وفيه عربي في الكيبورد على فكرة :) [20:46] ma3andeesh 3araby fel keyboard :D [20:46] wala fel system [20:46] atkalem english ? walla akamel franco ? [20:47] Darko, مفيش حد معندوش، حفيقة علمية [20:47] Darko, it's English then :) [20:47] i really don't have it :D , my keyboard has no arabic letters [20:47] and the system has no layout for arabic too [20:48] Darko, you mean the physical keyboard? [20:48] Faissl, yeah [20:48] Faissl, :D [20:49] Darko, the layout is not a problem at all, it's just few clicks away [20:50] Faissl, yeah yeah [20:50] Darko, for the physical keyboard, you can just practice [20:50] Faissl, well , i don't use it at all so its not useful for me at the moment [20:50] I worked on too old keyboard that have no characters on it :D [20:51] Faissl, where is everybody ? i thought we were going to have a discussion :D [20:51] Faissl, nice (Y) [20:52] Darko, psst, what is this (Y) suppose to mean? [20:52] Darko, انا باشوفها بقالي كتير ومحرج اسأل بصراحة [20:52] Faissl, oh it means a thumb up :D [20:53] Faissl, no don't be embarrassed to ask anything =] [20:53] * Faissl feels like (يا سلام!) :D [20:54] haha :D [20:54] Sup pals :D [20:54] hello =] [20:55] Darko, in case you think about it, this is "/me" in beginning then anything you like :) [20:55] iS7yX, عايز ايه :D [20:56] Faissl, cool [20:56] Faissl: انا جيت اسطب باك تراك عشان قالولي دي بتاعت الهاكرز الجامديين وبتاع, فقولت اجي استشير خبراء اللينوقس :D [20:58] اخي الكريم بوس اللابتوب شعر ودقن [20:58] وحتلاقيه زي الفل باذن الله [20:58] بس ماتنساش تشغل سورة ياسين وانت بتخترق [20:58] وتعيد وجعلنا من بين ايديهم سداً [20:58] وانت داخل [20:58] وانت خارج [20:58] وبالتوفيق اخي الهاقر الخارق [20:59] creative1412: بارك الله فيك اخي الكريم [20:59] iS7yX, أنا شخصيا ما بحبش ال"هاكرز" لا الجامدين ولا الضعاف [21:00] iS7yX, حلو اللينوقس ده [21:00] قوقل عليها :D [21:01] Faissl: :D [21:05] so ? [21:05] so eh? [21:06] feel free :) [21:06] ممكن اقول ع اللي بيحصل لي حاليا [21:06] أنا شغال في جافا من كتاب اسمه [21:07] Faissl, i thought we were going to discuss something :D , because i am not that much free [21:07] Faissl, sure tell me [21:07] "learning Java through application, a graphical approach" ده اسم الكتاب [21:08] ميزة الكتاب انه الوحيد اللي لقيته دايس في الGUI على طول [21:09] hmm [21:09] كنت شغال كويس لحد ما لقيته بيعمل برنامج دايرة جواها مربع وبيغيروا أماكنهم وحجمهم عشوائيا مع بعض [21:09] i think Java how to program teaches GUI too [21:09] oh graphics programming :D [21:09] أيوه بس بعد 500 صفحة مثلا [21:10] my specialty al 7amd lellah [21:11] المهم، عشان يخلي المربع مرتبط بالدائرة ونقطة احداثياتهم مش واحدة عمل معادلة معينة، مش عارف إيه يساوي الجذر التربيعي لإيه على إيه [21:11] وانا باعطل في الرياضة الحقيقة، أنا أدبي أساسا [21:11] المهم عملت البرنامج ده من غير ما افهم المعادلة ولا اتحولت ازاي لكود [21:11] بص يا فيصل في حتت مظلمة من العالم ما تدخلهاش الا لو معاك رياضة كويسة [21:12] pattern recognition , ML , AI , Datamining واخيرا computer Graphics =D [21:12] اسمع كلامي يا فيصل حتكسب :-) Head First Java عن خبرة سنين مفيش احسن منة :-) [21:12] True [21:12] for math part not for head first java :D [21:13] ويافيصل انا عندي نفس مشكلتك, الحقيقة انا اكتر انسان حمار ممكن تشوفة في الماثيماتكس [21:13] yeah the Head First series is great [21:13] بس الفكرة اني قررت اتخلص من مشاكلي دي [21:13] iS7yX, ما انا برضه قلت كده، خاصة اني كنت ابتديته زمان وخلصت فصل أو اتنين [21:13] واذاكر كل ال Algebra اللي علي خان اكاديمي :D [21:14] you can strengthen you mathematics [21:14] its never too late [21:14] iS7yX, Darko بس انا بصراحة بحب اما ابتدي حاجة اخلصها كلها [21:15] iS7yX, Darko وعلى حسب ما قريت الفهرس آخر فصلين غير قابلين للتطبيق خالص [21:15] انا عمري ما ابتديت حاجة وخلصتها :( [21:15] iS7yX, ولا انا :)))))))))))))) وعشان كده بتشائم م الموضوع ده :D [21:15] علطول ببتدي اي حاجة متحمس, وتدريجيا افقد الحماسة ووووهوب مبقاش طايق ابص في وش ام الحاجة دي. وحاجة جديدة تستهويني... وتدور الدائرة :( [21:15] you just need motivation to finish something [21:16] Darko, when you turn 31 you lose most of your motivations.. [21:16] بص يا فيصل كان في انترفيو في atlc بتاعة مايكروسوفت يوم االخميس [21:17] كنت هناك [21:17] نص اسئلتهم بروبابلتي [21:17] Faissl, not with good friends you don't [21:17] والنص التاني الجوريزم [21:17] فالماث مهم [21:17] Faissl, where do you live ? [21:17] creative1412, لأ [21:18] creative1412, إيه البروبابيلتي دي بالضبط؟ [21:18] creative1412, yes all good interview include data structures and algorithms , which rely heavily on discrete mathematics [21:19] also lots of interesting fields in computer science rely heavily on mathematics [21:19] iS7yX, أهو، فصل اسمه make a connection والتاني distributed computing [21:19] دي حاجة كدة استغفر الله العظيم بس بجيب فيها امتياز ما علينا =D [21:20] Darko, alsakakini, Ghamra, Cairo [21:21] creative1412, أيوه شبه إيه م اللي احنا نعرفه؟ [21:25] creative1412, the probability of what? [21:25] !!!! [21:25] Faissl, you are kidding :D [21:25] Darko, leih? [21:25] Faissl, i live in meidan el giesh ! [21:25] Faissl, ahmed saeed street :D [21:25] Faissl, 10 minutes away from you [21:25] Faissl, because i can encourage you and help you with the mathematics [21:25] Faissl, if you want [21:25] Darko, begd? great :D [21:25] Faissl, of course [21:25] Darko, thanks :) [21:25] Faissl, i am starting a system in july for everyone to join , that starts from the beginning of mathematics [21:25] Faissl, and all computer science [21:26] Faissl, to help reconstruct ,fix , and complete all the fake learning we had [21:26] Faissl, since secondary school till now [21:26] Faissl, and you are very welcome to join :) [21:27] Darko, but I think I made a good effort in PHP without math [21:28] Darko, what you mean with "starting a system"? [21:28] Faissl, of course [21:28] Faissl, PHP doesn't require math , because of the context that PHP work in [21:29] Faissl, i designed a system of courses that match the education of any country in Europe or USA , and im starting to study following this system myself [21:30] Faissl, what i mean by "start" is that i will invite people to join [21:30] Faissl, already got people :D [21:30] Darko, you mean you do training? [21:31] Faissl, training in what i know , and study groups in what i am yet to learn [21:31] Darko, I have no intention of any more courses, I can help you giving courses [21:32] is that volunteering? [21:32] Faissl, the courses are free [21:33] Faissl, well sure you can volunteer [21:33] the entire thing is to share knowledge [21:34] mmmm, I have no problem with free courses.. [21:35] this is somewhat hard to explain.. [21:35] what is hard to explain ? [21:36] Faissl: اسف كنت قومت. [21:36] ok [21:37] Faissl: جميل ممكن انا اكلمك في ال Distributed programming [21:37] للصبح لو عايز :D [21:38] iS7yX1, you work with distributed programming ?! [21:39] Darko, I have to work immediately, I have no money or time for any more courses, but in meantime, no problem with taking free courses, I also can't volunteer for the same reasons. [21:39] Darko, that's all about it [21:39] iS7yX1, المشكلة في التطبيق مش الكلام، الكلام ماهو ف الكتاب [21:39] Darko: If by work you mean are you interested in it, yes :D [21:40] Darko: انا اتعلمت ايرلانج مخصوص عشان افهم المجال :-) [21:40] iS7yX1, i meant use it on daily basis , but of course interested is great too :D [21:41] iS7yX1, you know about message passing and OpenMP [21:41] Faissl, مش فاهمك. انت وصلتلها؟ ايه مش فاهمة؟ [21:42] Darko: I've worked with Erlang "a message passing distributed environment" as well as OpenMP as a shared memory environment :-) [21:43] Although to be honest, I've done far advanced implementations in OpenMP.. Mostly image processing stuff [21:43] iS7yX1, well done (Y) :) [21:43] * Faissl قاعد بالونة ف الحوار :D [21:44] Darko: So, did you work with any Message passing env before? [21:44] iS7yX1, i work with somehow related field , parallel programming and massively parallel programming [21:44] MapReduce :D [21:44] iS7yX1, no not yet , but planing to work with OpenMP later on [21:44] iS7yX1, yep <3 :D [21:45] * Faissl you speak Enzleegy? [21:45] Faissl: الموضوع سهل فحت وربنا احنا مش بنخترع, شد حيلك وحتعرف اننا بنتكلم في كلام فارغ :D [21:45] iS7yX1, ماهو يمكن يبقى كلام فارغ بس برضه معرفوش :D [21:46] Darko: بتشتغل بهادووب ولا ايه وكدا؟ كلمني اكتر :D [21:46] iS7yX1, bashta3'al eih ?! [21:50] iS7yX1, ma3lesh mesh fahem elly 2olto :D [21:50] iS7yX1, repeat what you just said :D [21:54] Darko, iS7yX1, parallel programming I guess [21:55] Faissl, i don't know , he said a word that i can't read [21:55] Faissl, "beteshta3'al beeha doop" ?! :D [21:57] Sorry again :D [21:58] Darko: I was asking if you're working with Hadoop or which implementation of MapReduce are you using [21:58] iS7yX1, oooh no [21:58] iS7yX1, i usa CUDA [21:59] iS7yX1, so patterns must be implemented into the algorithm itself [21:59] Darko: Ahaaaaaa [21:59] Darko: Now i got you :D [22:00] iS7yX1, (Y) :D [22:00] Darko: Good job BTW :D [22:00] iS7yX1, thank you :) :) [22:00] Darko: So, are you using CUDA like me just because you're interested? or are you using it in a real job? [22:02] iS7yX1, i use it because it is the standard in what i will work in as a real job isA :) [22:02] iS7yX1, i am a graphics programmer and game developer [22:03] Darko: Good luck :-) [22:03] * Faissl is back to elballoona status [22:03] iS7yX1, thank you :) [22:05] iS7yX1, a programmer that work in scientific computing that isn't using parallel programmer , will be obsolete [22:05] iS7yX1, or got a very low salary [22:05] iS7yX1, so everyone should learn parallel programming as soon as possible to harness the power of the hardware [22:07] Darko: Enta fe Ain Shams? Or do you know Safwat Hamad :D ? [22:08] iS7yX1, nope ana fe el shorouk academy a5er sana [22:08] iS7yX1, don't know safwat [22:08] iS7yX1, who is he ? [22:14] Darko: He's a prof at Ain shams who used to say the same things you just said [22:14] iS7yX1, cool :D [22:14] iS7yX1, hopefully i will get to meet him someday soon [22:15] iS7yX1, i hope people are listening to him [22:25] Darko: They do :-) He's one of the most beloved Profs at ASCIS :-) [22:26] iS7yX1, al 7amd lellah :D [22:26] Darko: Kan el moshref 3ala mashroo3y :D [22:28] iS7yX1, nice :D [22:28] iS7yX1, what was it ? [22:30] Darko, iS7yX1 المهم يعني بصفتكم ناس مستوعبة الأشياء وقارية [22:31] Faissl: ياريت ابقي نص اللي انت فاكرني يافيصل :D [22:31] Darko, iS7yX1 أكمل مع جافا وللا انقل C++ [22:31] اثبت علي واحدة وكمل معاها للأخر [22:31] مش مهم مين [22:31] اللي ترتاحلة نفسيا... انت مرتاح نفسيا لمين؟ [22:31] Faissl, 7asab este5damak w ahdafak ya faisal [22:32] iS7yX1, مش مرتاح للاتنين :D [22:32] law hadafak graphics aw vision aw AI aw keda [22:32] yeb2a C++ [22:32] law hadafak scientific computing mn el a5er , yeb2a C++ [22:32] law business computing yeb2a java [22:32] بس كل كتب البرمجة اللي لقيتها عن C++ مافيهاش سيرة GUI [22:32] Faissl, mesh merta7 lel 2 :D ? [22:33] هدفك ديفلوبمنت سريع؟ توولز كويسة ونضيفة؟ مكتبات متوفرة لكل حاجة واستخدامها مش حيعقد حياتك. يبقي جافا... [22:33] Faissl, ah ya faisal 3ashan el C++ mafehash GUI built in , de lo3'a beta3et libraries [22:33] وانا عايز GUI الصراحة [22:33] داركو قالك علي مميزات سي++ :D [22:33] GUI يبقي اسهلك جافا [22:33] ولو انها حتقعدك يعني :( [22:33] Faissl, fa law GUI fel C++ lazem libraries tanya zy wxWidgets aw Qt [22:33] QT صحيح ازاي نسيتها [22:34] سهلة وظريفة. بس لازم تكون فاهم OO كويس جدا [22:34] Darko, iS7yX1 عايزين الصراحة؟ هدفي حاجة اتعلمها بسرعة ويبقى فيه أمل ما بشكل ما اني اشتغل بيها [22:34] سواء هنا أو بره [22:34] يبقي جافا. جافا تقدر تعمل GUI بنت بينز في نص ساعة :-) [22:34] iS7yX1, yeb2a java w taree2 el business computing wel enterprise applications [22:34] دراج ودروب :D [22:34] iS7yX1, belzabt [22:35] iS7yX1, والفاتحة للفيجوال بيزيك [22:35] :D [22:35] اي حاجة GUI في سي++ محتاجة تركيز وتأمل و صبر :D [22:35] Faissl, el fat7a tab3an :D [22:35] iS7yX1, belzabt [22:36] Darko, iS7yX1 انا تخصصي الأساسي كان VB6 :) [22:36] iS7yX1, w me7taga teb2a fahem enta betzaker C++ leeh aslan w teb2a kwayse fel hadaf beta3ak [22:36] وعملت بيها شغل حلو زمان [22:36] iS7yX1, 3ashan matetsawa7sh [22:36] زمان قوي بقه [22:36] Faissl, nice (Y) :D ana 3omry ma shoftaha xD [22:36] وكويس ان نجم مش هنا عشان ميردش. علي سؤالك دا :D [22:37] iS7yX1, ana kan nefsy yekoon hena 3ashan atna2esh ma3ah w afahemo kam 7aga keda [22:37] iS7yX1, ana aslan da5alt hena 3ashano :D [22:37] iS7yX1, w howa magash fel a5er :D [22:38] Darko: هو انا اعرفك بأسم تاني؟ [22:38] Darko, iS7yX1 كان بيقول لي يللا ندخل نغتت على linuxac لا دخل هنا ولا هناك [22:38] حاسس اني اتكلمت معاك قبل كدا وانا مش عارف :D Darko: [22:39] iS7yX1, ده طلع جاري تقريبا :D Darko [22:39] iS7yX1, asdak eih ?! [22:39] Faissl, ah e7na geraan :D [22:39] iS7yX1, ana esmy mohamed waheed atef , nickname Darko [22:40] iS7yX1, so7aby by2olooly wa7eed , aw wa7awy :D [22:40] iS7yX1, de kol el asma2 elly leya :D [22:41] Darko: It's nice to meet you :-) [22:41] Darko: Ana Ahmed Ezzat Afifi :D [22:41] iS7yX1, nice to meet you too :) thank you :) [22:41] Darko: Faissl: علي فكرة انا من شبرا مش بعيد عنكم يعني :D [22:41] iS7yX1, ana geddy mn shobra [22:42] iS7yX1, 3esht fe shobra zaman , fel 5alafawi [22:42] Darko: Aha, Agda3 naas :D [22:43] iS7yX1, rabena ye5aleek :D [22:47] Darko, وانا جدي من شبرا برضه، لو أبوك ميت تبقى مستنسخ مني :D [22:47] Faissl, hehehehe :D [22:47] iS7yX1, mashroo3ak kan eih ya ahmed ? === meetingology` is now known as meetingology [22:56] Darko: Optical Character Recognition engine for mobile [22:57] iS7yX1, cooool :D [22:57] iS7yX1, what was your approach ? [22:57] iS7yX1, since the mobile has low resources , i don't think you used neural networks right ? [22:58] Darko: Image processing -> Machine learning :D [22:58] Darko: Actually we did :D [22:59] iS7yX1, cool cool :D i love machine learning but it didn't fall on my track so i didn't continue in it [22:59] iS7yX1, oh you did !? :D nice :D i did that too when i was studying machine learning [22:59] iS7yX1, but how could you use neural networks on a mobile with low resources ? [22:59] iS7yX1, sounds really cool :D [23:01] Darko: since you only ship the trained network in the application, it won't need that much resources. [23:01] Darko: And we implemented only English language. so, our NN was relatively small :D [23:01] iS7yX1, oooh thats why [23:02] iS7yX1, i thought you ship the app and ship the learner too [23:02] cool [23:03] Darko: Of course not :D el 7arf kan bya5od beta3 sa3a 3ashan el training :D [23:03] iS7yX1, omg sa3a ?! da keteer fa7t xD [23:03] iS7yX1, ana mesh afker el learner kan bya5od ad eih lamma 3amalto el sara7a [23:05] iS7yX1, estanna ageblak video le wa7ed me3a2adny [23:06] Darko: Bos, ana lazem anam now [23:06] Darko: momken teb3atholy ba3deen [23:06] Darko: e3melly add 3ala el Facebook if you would like web2a eb3athooly [23:07] Darko: shoof el topic ele konna benetkalem feeh, ana Ahmed Ezzat Afifi :D [23:08] iS7yX1, ok mashi :D [23:08] iS7yX1, ana mesh la2eeh aslan ! XD [23:08] iS7yX1, tesba7 3ala 5eer [23:09] Darko: enta da? https://www.facebook.com/ProgressiveDarko [23:09] iS7yX1, ah [23:10] Darko: Tamam :D [23:10] Yalla, C ya [23:10] iS7yX1, cya =]