[20:42]  * Faissl is بيضرب كلاكس
[20:43] <Darko> :D
[20:43]  * Faissl poking Darko 
[20:44] <Darko> ezzayak ya faisal :)
[20:44] <Faissl> الحمد لله
[20:44] <Darko> ana mesh ba5osh 3al IRC keteer , fa momken a3raf ezay awageh kalam le7ad mo3ayan hena ?
[20:44]  * Faissl بيحب هذا الاختراع
[20:45] <Faissl> Darko, السوشيال ميديا يا عزيزي، دمرت حياتنا
[20:45] <Darko> aywa zy de
[20:45] <Darko> bete3mel de ezay ?
[20:45] <Faissl> Darko, بتكتب أول حرف أو حرفين من الاسم وبتدوس تاب
[20:46] <Darko> Faissl, tamam (Y) :)
[20:46] <Faissl> Darko, وفيه عربي في الكيبورد على فكرة :)
[20:46] <Darko> ma3andeesh 3araby fel keyboard :D
[20:46] <Darko> wala fel system
[20:46] <Darko> atkalem english ? walla akamel franco ?
[20:47] <Faissl> Darko, مفيش  حد معندوش، حفيقة علمية
[20:47] <Faissl> Darko, it's English then :)
[20:47] <Darko> i really don't have it :D , my keyboard has no arabic letters
[20:47] <Darko> and the system has no layout for arabic too
[20:48] <Faissl> Darko, you mean the physical keyboard?
[20:48] <Darko> Faissl, yeah
[20:48] <Darko> Faissl, :D
[20:49] <Faissl> Darko, the layout is not a problem at all, it's just few clicks away
[20:50] <Darko> Faissl, yeah yeah
[20:50] <Faissl> Darko, for the physical keyboard, you can just practice
[20:50] <Darko> Faissl, well , i don't use it at all so its not useful for me at the moment
[20:50] <Faissl> I worked on too old keyboard that have no characters on it :D
[20:51] <Darko> Faissl, where is everybody ? i thought we were going to have a discussion :D
[20:51] <Darko> Faissl, nice (Y)
[20:52] <Faissl> Darko, psst, what is this (Y) suppose to mean?
[20:52] <Faissl> Darko, انا باشوفها بقالي كتير ومحرج اسأل بصراحة
[20:52] <Darko> Faissl, oh it means a thumb up :D
[20:53] <Darko> Faissl, no don't be embarrassed to ask anything =]
[20:53]  * Faissl feels like (يا سلام!) :D
[20:54] <Darko> haha :D
[20:54] <iS7yX> Sup pals :D
[20:54] <Darko> hello =]
[20:55] <Faissl> Darko, in case you think about it, this is "/me" in beginning then anything you like :)
[20:55] <Faissl> iS7yX, عايز ايه :D
[20:56] <Darko> Faissl, cool
[20:56] <iS7yX> Faissl: انا جيت اسطب باك تراك عشان قالولي دي بتاعت الهاكرز الجامديين وبتاع, فقولت اجي استشير خبراء اللينوقس :D
[20:58] <creative1412> اخي الكريم بوس اللابتوب شعر ودقن
[20:58] <creative1412> وحتلاقيه زي الفل باذن الله
[20:58] <creative1412> بس ماتنساش تشغل سورة ياسين وانت بتخترق
[20:58] <creative1412> وتعيد وجعلنا من بين ايديهم سداً
[20:58] <creative1412> وانت داخل
[20:58] <creative1412> وانت خارج
[20:58] <creative1412> وبالتوفيق اخي الهاقر الخارق
[20:59] <iS7yX> creative1412: بارك الله فيك اخي الكريم
[20:59] <Faissl> iS7yX, أنا شخصيا ما بحبش ال"هاكرز" لا الجامدين ولا الضعاف
[21:00] <Faissl> iS7yX, حلو اللينوقس ده
[21:00] <Faissl> قوقل عليها :D
[21:01] <iS7yX> Faissl: :D
[21:05] <Darko> so ?
[21:05] <Faissl> so eh?
[21:06] <Faissl> feel free :)
[21:06] <Faissl> ممكن اقول ع اللي بيحصل لي حاليا
[21:06] <Faissl> أنا شغال في جافا من كتاب اسمه
[21:07] <Darko> Faissl, i thought we were going to discuss something :D , because i am not that much free
[21:07] <Darko> Faissl, sure tell me
[21:07] <Faissl> "learning Java through application, a graphical approach" ده اسم الكتاب
[21:08] <Faissl> ميزة الكتاب انه الوحيد اللي لقيته دايس في الGUI على طول
[21:09] <Darko> hmm
[21:09] <Faissl> كنت شغال كويس لحد ما لقيته بيعمل برنامج دايرة جواها مربع وبيغيروا أماكنهم وحجمهم عشوائيا مع بعض
[21:09] <Darko> i think Java how to program teaches GUI too
[21:09] <Darko> oh graphics programming :D
[21:09] <Faissl> أيوه بس بعد 500 صفحة مثلا
[21:10] <Darko> my specialty al 7amd lellah
[21:11] <Faissl> المهم، عشان يخلي المربع مرتبط بالدائرة ونقطة احداثياتهم مش واحدة عمل معادلة معينة، مش عارف إيه يساوي الجذر التربيعي لإيه على إيه
[21:11] <Faissl> وانا باعطل في الرياضة الحقيقة، أنا أدبي أساسا
[21:11] <Faissl> المهم عملت البرنامج ده من غير ما افهم المعادلة ولا اتحولت ازاي لكود
[21:11] <creative1412> بص يا فيصل في حتت مظلمة من العالم ما تدخلهاش الا لو معاك رياضة كويسة
[21:12] <creative1412> pattern recognition  , ML , AI , Datamining واخيرا computer Graphics =D
[21:12] <iS7yX> اسمع كلامي يا فيصل حتكسب :-) Head First Java عن خبرة سنين مفيش احسن منة :-)
[21:12] <mahmoud> True
[21:12] <mahmoud> for math part not for head first java :D
[21:13] <iS7yX> ويافيصل انا عندي نفس مشكلتك, الحقيقة انا اكتر انسان حمار ممكن تشوفة في الماثيماتكس
[21:13] <Darko> yeah the Head First series is great
[21:13] <iS7yX> بس الفكرة اني قررت اتخلص من مشاكلي دي
[21:13] <Faissl> iS7yX, ما انا برضه قلت كده، خاصة اني كنت ابتديته زمان وخلصت فصل أو اتنين
[21:13] <iS7yX> واذاكر كل ال Algebra اللي علي خان اكاديمي :D
[21:14] <Darko> you can strengthen you mathematics
[21:14] <Darko> its never too late
[21:14] <Faissl> iS7yX, Darko بس انا بصراحة بحب اما ابتدي حاجة اخلصها كلها
[21:15] <Faissl> iS7yX, Darko وعلى حسب ما قريت الفهرس آخر فصلين غير قابلين للتطبيق خالص
[21:15] <iS7yX> انا عمري ما ابتديت حاجة وخلصتها :(
[21:15] <Faissl> iS7yX, ولا انا :)))))))))))))) وعشان كده بتشائم م الموضوع ده :D
[21:15] <iS7yX> علطول ببتدي اي حاجة متحمس, وتدريجيا افقد الحماسة ووووهوب مبقاش طايق ابص في وش ام الحاجة دي. وحاجة جديدة تستهويني... وتدور الدائرة :(
[21:15] <Darko> you just need motivation to finish something
[21:16] <Faissl> Darko, when you turn 31 you lose most of your motivations..
[21:16] <creative1412> بص يا فيصل كان في انترفيو في atlc بتاعة مايكروسوفت يوم االخميس
[21:17] <creative1412> كنت هناك
[21:17] <creative1412> نص اسئلتهم بروبابلتي
[21:17] <Darko> Faissl, not with good friends you don't
[21:17] <creative1412> والنص التاني الجوريزم
[21:17] <creative1412> فالماث مهم
[21:17] <Darko> Faissl, where do you live ?
[21:17] <Faissl> creative1412, لأ
[21:18] <Faissl> creative1412, إيه البروبابيلتي دي بالضبط؟
[21:18] <Darko> creative1412, yes all good interview include data structures and algorithms , which rely heavily on discrete mathematics
[21:19] <Darko> also lots of interesting fields in computer science rely heavily on mathematics
[21:19] <Faissl> iS7yX, أهو، فصل اسمه make a connection والتاني distributed computing
[21:19] <creative1412> دي حاجة كدة استغفر الله العظيم بس بجيب فيها امتياز ما علينا =D
[21:20] <Faissl> Darko, alsakakini, Ghamra, Cairo
[21:21] <Faissl> creative1412, أيوه شبه إيه م اللي احنا نعرفه؟
[21:25] <Faissl> creative1412, the probability of what?
[21:25] <Darko> !!!!
[21:25] <Darko> Faissl, you are kidding :D
[21:25] <Faissl> Darko, leih?
[21:25] <Darko> Faissl, i live in meidan el giesh !
[21:25] <Darko> Faissl, ahmed saeed street :D
[21:25] <Darko> Faissl, 10 minutes away from you
[21:25] <Darko> Faissl, because i can encourage you and help you with the mathematics
[21:25] <Darko> Faissl, if you want
[21:25] <Faissl> Darko, begd? great :D
[21:25] <Darko> Faissl, of course
[21:25] <Faissl> Darko, thanks :)
[21:25] <Darko> Faissl, i am starting a system in july for everyone to join , that starts from the beginning of mathematics
[21:25] <Darko> Faissl, and all computer science
[21:26] <Darko> Faissl, to help reconstruct ,fix , and complete all the fake learning we had
[21:26] <Darko> Faissl, since secondary school till now
[21:26] <Darko> Faissl, and you are very welcome to join :)
[21:27] <Faissl> Darko, but I think I made a good effort in PHP without math
[21:28] <Faissl> Darko, what you mean with "starting a system"?
[21:28] <Darko> Faissl, of course
[21:28] <Darko> Faissl, PHP doesn't require math , because of the context that PHP work in
[21:29] <Darko> Faissl, i designed a system of courses that match the education of any country in Europe or USA , and im starting to study following this system myself
[21:30] <Darko> Faissl, what i mean by "start" is that i will invite people to join
[21:30] <Darko> Faissl, already got people :D
[21:30] <Faissl> Darko, you mean you do training?
[21:31] <Darko> Faissl, training in what i know , and study groups in what i am yet to learn
[21:31] <Faissl> Darko, I have no intention of any more courses, I can help you giving courses
[21:32] <Faissl> is that volunteering?
[21:32] <Darko> Faissl, the courses are free
[21:33] <Darko> Faissl, well sure you can volunteer
[21:33] <Darko> the entire thing is to share knowledge
[21:34] <Faissl> mmmm, I have no problem with free courses..
[21:35] <Faissl> this is somewhat hard to explain..
[21:35] <Darko> what is hard to explain ?
[21:36] <iS7yX1> Faissl: اسف كنت قومت.
[21:36] <Faissl> ok
[21:37] <iS7yX1> Faissl: جميل ممكن انا اكلمك في ال Distributed programming
[21:37] <iS7yX1> للصبح لو عايز :D
[21:38] <Darko> iS7yX1, you work with distributed programming ?!
[21:39] <Faissl> Darko, I have to work immediately, I have no money or time for any more courses, but in meantime, no problem with taking free courses, I also can't volunteer for the same reasons.
[21:39] <Faissl> Darko, that's all about it
[21:39] <Faissl> iS7yX1, المشكلة في التطبيق مش الكلام، الكلام ماهو ف الكتاب
[21:39] <iS7yX1> Darko: If by work you mean are you interested in it, yes :D
[21:40] <iS7yX1> Darko: انا اتعلمت ايرلانج مخصوص عشان افهم المجال :-)
[21:40] <Darko> iS7yX1, i meant use it on daily basis , but of course interested is great too :D
[21:41] <Darko> iS7yX1, you know about message passing and OpenMP
[21:41] <iS7yX1> Faissl, مش فاهمك. انت وصلتلها؟ ايه مش فاهمة؟
[21:42] <iS7yX1> Darko:  I've worked with Erlang "a message passing distributed environment" as well as OpenMP as a shared memory environment :-)
[21:43] <iS7yX1> Although to be honest, I've done far advanced implementations in OpenMP.. Mostly image processing stuff
[21:43] <Darko> iS7yX1, well done (Y) :)
[21:43]  * Faissl قاعد بالونة ف الحوار :D
[21:44] <iS7yX1> Darko: So, did you work with any Message passing env before?
[21:44] <Darko> iS7yX1, i work with somehow related field , parallel programming and massively parallel programming
[21:44] <iS7yX1> MapReduce :D
[21:44] <Darko> iS7yX1, no not yet , but planing to work with OpenMP later on
[21:44] <Darko> iS7yX1, yep <3 :D
[21:45]  * Faissl you speak Enzleegy?
[21:45] <iS7yX1> Faissl: الموضوع سهل فحت وربنا احنا مش بنخترع, شد حيلك وحتعرف اننا بنتكلم في كلام فارغ :D
[21:45] <Faissl> iS7yX1, ماهو يمكن يبقى كلام فارغ بس برضه معرفوش :D
[21:46] <iS7yX1> Darko: بتشتغل بهادووب ولا ايه وكدا؟ كلمني اكتر :D
[21:46] <Darko> iS7yX1, bashta3'al eih ?!
[21:50] <Darko> iS7yX1, ma3lesh mesh fahem elly 2olto :D
[21:50] <Darko> iS7yX1, repeat what you just said :D
[21:54] <Faissl> Darko, iS7yX1, parallel programming I guess
[21:55] <Darko> Faissl, i don't know , he said a word that i can't read
[21:55] <Darko> Faissl, "beteshta3'al beeha doop" ?! :D
[21:57] <iS7yX1> Sorry again :D
[21:58] <iS7yX1>  Darko: I was asking if you're working with Hadoop or which implementation of MapReduce are you using
[21:58] <Darko> iS7yX1, oooh no
[21:58] <Darko> iS7yX1, i usa CUDA
[21:59] <Darko> iS7yX1, so patterns must be implemented into the algorithm itself
[21:59] <iS7yX1> Darko: Ahaaaaaa
[21:59] <iS7yX1> Darko: Now i got you :D
[22:00] <Darko> iS7yX1, (Y) :D
[22:00] <iS7yX1> Darko: Good job BTW :D
[22:00] <Darko> iS7yX1, thank you :) :)
[22:00] <iS7yX1> Darko: So, are you using CUDA like me just because you're interested? or are you using it in a real job?
[22:02] <Darko> iS7yX1, i use it because it is the standard in what i will work in as a real job isA :)
[22:02] <Darko> iS7yX1, i am a graphics programmer and game developer
[22:03] <iS7yX1> Darko: Good luck :-)
[22:03]  * Faissl is back to elballoona status
[22:03] <Darko> iS7yX1, thank you :)
[22:05] <Darko> iS7yX1, a programmer that work in scientific computing that isn't using parallel programmer , will be obsolete
[22:05] <Darko> iS7yX1, or got a very low salary
[22:05] <Darko> iS7yX1, so everyone should learn parallel programming as soon as possible to harness the power of the hardware
[22:07] <iS7yX1> Darko: Enta fe Ain Shams? Or do you know Safwat Hamad :D ?
[22:08] <Darko> iS7yX1, nope ana fe el shorouk academy a5er sana
[22:08] <Darko> iS7yX1, don't know safwat
[22:08] <Darko> iS7yX1, who is he ?
[22:14] <iS7yX1> Darko: He's a prof at Ain shams who used to say the same things you just said
[22:14] <Darko> iS7yX1, cool :D
[22:14] <Darko> iS7yX1, hopefully i will get to meet him someday soon
[22:15] <Darko> iS7yX1, i hope people are listening to him
[22:25] <iS7yX1> Darko:  They do :-) He's one of the most beloved Profs at ASCIS :-)
[22:26] <Darko> iS7yX1, al 7amd lellah :D
[22:26] <iS7yX1> Darko: Kan el moshref 3ala mashroo3y :D
[22:28] <Darko> iS7yX1, nice :D
[22:28] <Darko> iS7yX1, what was it ?
[22:30] <Faissl> Darko, iS7yX1 المهم يعني بصفتكم ناس مستوعبة الأشياء وقارية
[22:31] <iS7yX1> Faissl: ياريت ابقي نص اللي انت فاكرني يافيصل :D
[22:31] <Faissl> Darko, iS7yX1 أكمل مع جافا وللا انقل C++
[22:31] <iS7yX1> اثبت علي واحدة وكمل معاها للأخر
[22:31] <iS7yX1> مش مهم مين
[22:31] <iS7yX1> اللي ترتاحلة نفسيا... انت مرتاح نفسيا لمين؟
[22:31] <Darko> Faissl, 7asab este5damak w ahdafak ya faisal
[22:32] <Faissl> iS7yX1, مش مرتاح للاتنين :D
[22:32] <Darko> law hadafak graphics aw vision aw AI aw keda
[22:32] <Darko> yeb2a C++
[22:32] <Darko> law hadafak scientific computing mn el a5er , yeb2a C++
[22:32] <Darko> law business computing yeb2a java
[22:32] <Faissl> بس كل كتب البرمجة اللي لقيتها عن C++ مافيهاش سيرة GUI
[22:32] <Darko> Faissl, mesh merta7 lel 2 :D ?
[22:33] <iS7yX1> هدفك ديفلوبمنت سريع؟ توولز كويسة ونضيفة؟ مكتبات متوفرة لكل حاجة واستخدامها مش حيعقد حياتك. يبقي جافا...
[22:33] <Darko> Faissl, ah ya faisal 3ashan el C++ mafehash GUI built in , de lo3'a beta3et libraries
[22:33] <Faissl> وانا عايز GUI الصراحة
[22:33] <iS7yX1> داركو قالك علي مميزات سي++ :D
[22:33] <iS7yX1> GUI يبقي اسهلك جافا
[22:33] <iS7yX1> ولو انها حتقعدك يعني :(
[22:33] <Darko> Faissl, fa law GUI fel C++ lazem libraries tanya zy wxWidgets aw Qt
[22:33] <iS7yX1> QT صحيح ازاي نسيتها
[22:34] <iS7yX1> سهلة وظريفة. بس لازم تكون فاهم OO كويس جدا
[22:34] <Faissl> Darko, iS7yX1 عايزين الصراحة؟ هدفي حاجة اتعلمها بسرعة ويبقى  فيه أمل ما بشكل ما اني اشتغل بيها
[22:34] <Faissl> سواء هنا أو بره
[22:34] <iS7yX1> يبقي جافا. جافا تقدر تعمل GUI بنت بينز في نص ساعة :-)
[22:34] <Darko> iS7yX1, yeb2a java w taree2 el business computing wel enterprise applications
[22:34] <iS7yX1> دراج ودروب :D
[22:34] <Darko> iS7yX1, belzabt
[22:35] <Faissl> iS7yX1, والفاتحة للفيجوال بيزيك
[22:35] <Faissl> :D
[22:35] <iS7yX1> اي حاجة GUI في سي++ محتاجة تركيز وتأمل و صبر :D
[22:35] <Darko> Faissl, el fat7a tab3an :D
[22:35] <Darko> iS7yX1, belzabt
[22:36] <Faissl> Darko, iS7yX1 انا تخصصي الأساسي كان VB6 :)
[22:36] <Darko> iS7yX1, w me7taga teb2a fahem enta betzaker C++ leeh aslan w teb2a kwayse fel hadaf beta3ak
[22:36] <Faissl> وعملت بيها شغل حلو زمان
[22:36] <Darko> iS7yX1, 3ashan matetsawa7sh
[22:36] <Faissl> زمان قوي بقه
[22:36] <Darko> Faissl, nice (Y) :D ana 3omry ma shoftaha xD
[22:36] <iS7yX1> وكويس ان نجم مش هنا عشان ميردش. علي سؤالك دا :D
[22:37] <Darko> iS7yX1, ana kan nefsy yekoon hena 3ashan atna2esh ma3ah w afahemo kam 7aga keda
[22:37] <Darko> iS7yX1, ana aslan da5alt hena 3ashano :D
[22:37] <Darko> iS7yX1,  w howa magash fel a5er :D
[22:38] <iS7yX1>  Darko: هو انا اعرفك بأسم تاني؟
[22:38] <Faissl> Darko, iS7yX1 كان بيقول لي يللا ندخل نغتت على linuxac لا دخل هنا ولا هناك
[22:38] <iS7yX1> حاسس اني اتكلمت معاك قبل كدا وانا مش عارف :D  Darko:
[22:39] <Faissl> iS7yX1, ده طلع جاري تقريبا :D Darko
[22:39] <Darko> iS7yX1, asdak eih ?!
[22:39] <Darko> Faissl, ah e7na geraan :D
[22:39] <Darko> iS7yX1, ana esmy mohamed waheed atef , nickname Darko
[22:40] <Darko> iS7yX1, so7aby by2olooly wa7eed , aw wa7awy :D
[22:40] <Darko> iS7yX1, de kol el asma2 elly leya :D
[22:41] <iS7yX1>  Darko: It's nice to meet you :-)
[22:41] <iS7yX1>  Darko:  Ana Ahmed Ezzat Afifi :D
[22:41] <Darko> iS7yX1, nice to meet you too :) thank you :)
[22:41] <iS7yX1>  Darko: Faissl: علي فكرة انا من شبرا مش بعيد عنكم يعني :D
[22:41] <Darko> iS7yX1, ana geddy mn shobra
[22:42] <Darko> iS7yX1, 3esht fe shobra zaman , fel 5alafawi
[22:42] <iS7yX1>  Darko: Aha, Agda3 naas :D
[22:43] <Darko> iS7yX1, rabena ye5aleek :D
[22:47] <Faissl> Darko, وانا جدي من شبرا برضه، لو أبوك ميت تبقى مستنسخ مني :D
[22:47] <Darko> Faissl, hehehehe :D
[22:47] <Darko> iS7yX1, mashroo3ak kan eih ya ahmed ?
[22:56] <iS7yX1> Darko: Optical Character Recognition engine for mobile
[22:57] <Darko> iS7yX1, cooool :D
[22:57] <Darko> iS7yX1, what was your approach ?
[22:57] <Darko> iS7yX1, since the mobile has low resources , i don't think you used neural networks right ?
[22:58] <iS7yX1> Darko: Image processing -> Machine learning :D
[22:58] <iS7yX1> Darko: Actually we did :D
[22:59] <Darko> iS7yX1, cool cool :D i love machine learning but it didn't fall on my track so i didn't continue in it
[22:59] <Darko> iS7yX1, oh you did !? :D nice :D i did that too when i was studying machine learning
[22:59] <Darko> iS7yX1, but how could you use neural networks on a mobile with low resources ?
[22:59] <Darko> iS7yX1, sounds really cool :D
[23:01] <iS7yX1> Darko: since you only ship the trained network in the application, it won't need that much resources.
[23:01] <iS7yX1> Darko: And we implemented only English language. so, our NN was relatively small :D
[23:01] <Darko> iS7yX1, oooh thats why
[23:02] <Darko> iS7yX1, i thought you ship the app and ship the learner too
[23:02] <Darko> cool
[23:03] <iS7yX1> Darko: Of course not :D el 7arf kan bya5od beta3 sa3a 3ashan el training :D
[23:03] <Darko> iS7yX1, omg sa3a ?! da keteer fa7t xD
[23:03] <Darko> iS7yX1, ana mesh afker el learner kan bya5od ad eih lamma 3amalto el sara7a
[23:05] <Darko> iS7yX1, estanna ageblak video le wa7ed me3a2adny
[23:06] <iS7yX1> Darko: Bos, ana lazem anam now
[23:06] <iS7yX1> Darko: momken teb3atholy ba3deen
[23:06] <iS7yX1> Darko: e3melly add 3ala el Facebook if you would like web2a eb3athooly
[23:07] <iS7yX1> Darko: shoof el topic ele konna benetkalem feeh, ana Ahmed Ezzat Afifi :D
[23:08] <Darko> iS7yX1, ok mashi :D
[23:08] <Darko> iS7yX1, ana mesh la2eeh aslan ! XD
[23:08] <Darko> iS7yX1, tesba7 3ala 5eer
[23:09] <iS7yX1> Darko: enta da? https://www.facebook.com/ProgressiveDarko
[23:09] <Darko> iS7yX1, ah
[23:10] <iS7yX1> Darko: Tamam :D
[23:10] <iS7yX1> Yalla, C ya
[23:10] <Darko> iS7yX1, cya =]