=== issyl0_ is now known as Guest53201 === issyl0 is now known as Guest73559 === CaMason_ is now known as 16WAAV9SH [02:24] === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum === issyl0_ is now known as Guest6269 === j0nr is now known as 13WAA3JHB === G4MBY2 is now known as PaulW2U === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti === chalced is now known as chalcedony [08:00] morning === CyberJacob|Away is now known as CyberJacob [08:23] allo allo [08:25] \o [08:33] o/ [08:33] yo sup and other colloqualisms [08:53] Good morning peeps [08:54] F1 (Practice 3) in 5 [08:56] So. My microserver already has a RAID1 on 2 500GB drives. I've just received 2 2TB drives that I need to add in. Can I set up a 2nd RAID1 or is that silly? [09:00] bigcalm: neat, what kind of case are you using for the machine? [09:00] dwatkins: HP microserver [09:01] I think mine is the 40L. It's been a while so I can't remember [09:11] bigcalm: You can just make a new unit of the 2 new disks in RAID1 [09:25] jacobw: aha, thank you. How? ;) [09:28] Humm, possibly http://askubuntu.com/questions/223194/setup-of-two-additional-ssd-drives-in-raid-1 ? [09:29] bigcalm: Are you using software RAID or a physical controller? [09:29] jacobw: software raid [09:29] jacobw: I followed a tutorial for setting up 12.04 on a fresh machine and using RAID1. But that was some time ago :) [09:30] It's using madam [09:30] mdadm even [09:30] popey: After last nights 75Gb .thunderbird folder, compacting twice and deleting sent items/trash that was no longer needed, the size has dropped to 540Mb [09:31] DJones: I stopped subscribing to folders that are no longer relevant. That and compacting makes a big difference. I couldn't bring myself to delete any email [09:31] Esp not Sent [09:32] DJones: haha! [09:32] That answer has everything you need to know, use mdadm to create a device at /dev/mdX then create a filesystem and start using it [09:32] good morning everyone, [09:32] jacobw: I thought it looked right. Thanks for the clarification :) [09:32] Morning brobostigon [09:33] bigcalm: Most of the sent I deleted were emails between me & my dad, forwarding pictures etc that I've got saved, onlydeleted the junk stuff I know I won't want again [09:33] morning bigcalm [09:33] Hey brobostigon [09:33] * bigcalm sets up the additional drives as an excuse to not play the Ravenholm stage in HL2 for a while [09:33] morning jacobw [09:46] Shutting down :( [09:59] Morning .. Time to get up John-boy ! http://open.spotify.com/track/6p2XXeslyqOvCgiv2SK90E [10:02] Windows 8's partition layout is horrendous [10:03] How on earth can I make this into a dual boot? http://en.zimagez.com/full/75b8ef8673322929329a618ec91320d4827c219dfe1bb46c6924c0fb25bf0a9d45207eef74a4ebe8d55c80c62eb194fe4bf57df90cac784f.php [10:15] hi guys. I have a simple question for you. If I remove the programme A with purge command, would the programme B would be affected who shares dependency with programme A. can be a silly question. thanks in advance [10:24] \o/ /dev/md3 1.8T 196M 1.7T 1% /media/RAID1_3 [10:24] Putting it on md3 was a mistake, but one I can live with [10:53] thinking might get couple of these to make at my desk http://www.strapya-world.com/categories/2331_3177_8143.html [11:08] mungbean: Weren't you after another ISP a week last Cinqo-de-May ?? Found this ::: | Not quite an ISP , but has built-in filtering-package :::::: http://bit.ly/ZVShEd .. Pr.bly not yourself . but good for the cornish crew, so thought I'd 'divvy up' :: [11:50] hmm, I don't see you on latitude [11:51] ^ MartijnVdS [11:54] popey: hmm.. let me check [11:55] popey: re-sent the thingy [11:55] popey: I can't see you either [11:55] Ouch, I feel sorry for this guy https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJ-0CFRCQAApFTY.jpg:large [11:59] redtape|renegade: not me, i'm afraid [12:00] ouch [12:01] To display notifications should I be using pynotify in 13.04? [12:03] mungbean, Np. [12:04] Afternoon [12:35] DJones: that's very disturbing [12:36] bigcalm: I bet it was for the squirrel [12:42] this uSDHC card claims to be 'temperature proof' [12:42] penguin42: so.. it works if it's not 0K? [12:42] lets try absolute zero, :) === CyberJacob is now known as CyberJacob|Away [12:43] or a blow torch === CyberJacob|Away is now known as CyberJacob [12:43] It also claims to be water, magnet and X-ray proof [12:44] oddly the symbol for x-ray proof seems to be a set of teeth [12:44] lets stick in the LHC :D [12:46] "But is it Higgs-proof? [12:46] " [12:46] hehe :) [12:47] MartijnVdS: Well, it doesn't weigh much [12:50] * penguin42 thinks the only explanation is that they store the data on cockroaches [12:57] the packaging is also pretty much open-proof [12:58] wooops. [13:05] again, try the blowtorch ;) === CyberJacob is now known as CyberJacob|Away === CyberJacob|Away is now known as CyberJacob [13:07] hammer & duct tape [13:19] https://github.com/search?p=1&q=extension%3Aphp+mysql_query+%24_GET&ref=searchresults&type=Code [13:19] Crying time :) === CyberJacob is now known as CyberJacob|Away === CyberJacob|Away is now known as CyberJacob [13:33] MartijnVdS: oh my :( === CyberJacob is now known as CyberJacob|Away === CyberJacob|Away is now known as CyberJacob [14:14] * redtape|renegade goes for a 'pukka' | 'cleanse' peppermint tea, :: entranced by the competition http://bit.ly/19bLRBA [15:56] film4, ST4, voyage home, now. :) [15:57] Urgh, can't get ubuntu live usb to work on my dell laptop which shipped with windows 8 o nit [15:57] It goes to the grub menu but won't do anything after that [15:58] is it uefi etc? and is it compatible ubuntu? [15:58] It is UEFI [15:58] And since when as it being "compatible" with Ubuntu matter [15:58] *mattered [15:58] kvarley: directhex seems to know alot about it. [15:58] Linux works on everything lol [15:59] kvarley: Well, if it's at the grub menu that's pretty positive [15:59] kvarley: are you saying at that point no keyboard etc is working? [15:59] i do believe you need a special grub version for uefi. [15:59] brobostigon: If it's managed to load the grub menu I'd say it's most of the way there and I think you're past that [15:59] maybe wrong however [15:59] penguin42: I mean the grub menu of the usb installer, pictured on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [16:00] penguin42: possibly. good question. [16:00] kvarley: OK, and can you move the arrows on there? [16:01] penguin42: yeah that's all fine. when I hit enter a get a black screen and nothing happens [16:01] If it tap the power button it turns off straight away which suggests the kernel hasn't loaded [16:01] kvarley: Hmm ok, then it could be worse.... [16:02] kvarley: is there a recovery/fallback/safe option on that menu? [16:03] peguin42: No. Try Ubuntu without installing, Install Ubuntu, OEM install (for manufacturers), Check disc for defects [16:04] kvarley: I'd try using the grub edit option to try and remove the quiet, splash and handoff options [16:06] penguin42: Nothing, the kernel doesn't load [16:06] hmm that's a shame [16:07] penguin42: Going to try from disc instead of usb 3 [16:07] please bug report it [16:07] brobostigon, Sounds bassically good .. just didn't get that memo ... https://mailing.channel4.com/public/read_message.jsp;jsessionid=0;apw71?sigreq=-1183483074 [16:08] redtape|renegade: ummm ? [16:08] brobostigon, Ahem | I wasn't listed, cough. [16:09] **it wasn't listed ... [16:09] redtape|renegade: what wasnt listed? you have still lost me. [16:09] Did you click my link above ? [16:10] redtape|renegade: i dont have a browser open atm, it would be quicker for you to tell me, as i am on my eeepc. [16:10] brobostigon, The email subscription that I got, did not list the program .. [cough]. [16:11] redtape|renegade: ah, didnt list star trek on film4? [16:11] brobostigon, Right. [16:12] redtape|renegade: i have ch4's film4 listing on my twitter. [16:12] brobostigon, I would, but I'd only get non-plussed. [16:12] redtape|renegade: ok. === CyberJacob is now known as CyberJacob|Away === CyberJacob|Away is now known as CyberJacob [16:18] * redtape|renegade stretches for gpodder again ... :::https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/FLOSS%20Weekly%20278_%20Tapper.mp3 ::: [16:26] or even here : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/FLOSS%20Weekly%20278_%20Tapper.mp3 ::: [ if yur using VLC .. set the cacheing to 15000ms ] [16:28] bobnet brobostigon STOPSPLIT [16:32] bouncey bouncey bouncey [16:32] yeah sorry about that [16:33] Myrtti, Pro.bly from Chicagae. [16:33] Myrtti: Tripped over the cable? [16:33] someone got bored and started playing jumprope [16:36] * penguin42 had to look that up [16:37] i set ignore on parts & quits etc so never see splits [16:38] that's the 1st bounce I saw today, someone else was saying they'd seen wolfe bouncing a bit today [16:38] OT | Someone mention jump-rope ? http://bit.ly/11t7b83 (use the right mp3 playr guys Plz) [16:56] boiiinngggg [16:59] * DJones welcomes zebede [17:00] He says remembering the original broadcasts of Magic Roundabout [17:00] boo [17:00] RAWR [17:00] Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh [17:04] * redtape|renegade 'wheezes :: http://open.spotify.com/album/5HPc503HoxRMgu8CdcjLY8 :: [17:04] leaves. === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey [17:08] 1st day off after 12 days continuous work & what happens? Ice falls from the sky! hurumph! [17:09] once again I say something and redtape|renegade leaves right after [17:09] but is still online and in other channels [17:09] getting pretty childish [17:10] hmmm - was on my ignore list a while back [17:11] not worth bothering about imo [17:31] anyone good with dovecot errors? dovecot: imap-login: Warning: SSL alert: where=0x4004, ret=558: fatal certificate unknown which end didn't like the cert? [17:32] that's using a self-signed on the dovecot server made using the mkcert script that comes with dovecot and thunderbolt as the client === bigcalm_ is now known as bigcalm [18:00] yay, dr who, :) [18:01] penguin42: turn on the debug! [18:01] I don't recall seeing that before, but Dovecot's rather terse with SSL errors [18:02] BigRedS: I seem to have got it to work after an hour of fiddling by regenerating the cert and shouting at it a lot; I'm not which one was more important [18:02] probably the latter [18:34] yeah [18:34] maybe I just got a couple of bad ones, this was a few years ago [18:34] tries to be all things to all people [18:34] very much focussing on "the web" and social media [18:34] and like a tomorrows world for twitter people [18:35] haha, I guess that part of the problem is that I don't find consumer tech all that interesting, really [18:35] i think my wife benefits more as they frequently cover things that i talk about and already know about [18:36] in a MOR kind of way [18:36] yeah, i think it just felt like the equivalent of reading the headlines on slashdot really slowly :) [18:36] its a bit like the apple fans on my fb feed who describe themselves as geeks [18:37] but not the actual articles [18:37] haha, yeah. I've started spotting those when my apple rant gets as far as the absence of a procfs... === dgjones is now known as DJones [18:38] 'cause at a past job I figured I'd just bring over all my scripts for monitoring and automating and stuff, and all of them failed as soon as they tried to get data by reading from a file under /proc [18:40] my model is staring at me waiting to get built [18:40] http://ubuntuone.com/1HeTlg3n5g8Fy0uelZQ0IY [18:40] BigRedS: Can procfs bet added to Darwin? I know it's available on other BSDs. [18:42] ball: I've no idea, I didn't check 'cause my boss soon managed to argue that things running OSX weren't the responsibilty of IT... [18:43] * ball nods [18:43] Sounds reasonable. [18:43] I was dumfounded, but pleased [18:44] We were about 5-8% OSX at the time, and they all suddenly became the direct responsibility of their users [18:44] which, admittedly, made their users happier since they knew better what they were doing than an of us did :) === _Dave2_ is now known as Dave2 === redtape|coffee is now known as redtape|renegade === matt_symes is now known as Guest39500 === DJones is now known as Guest36015 === CyberJacob is now known as Guest676 [18:52] Myrtti, Your still using irssi, just not the same ports (v.helpful). [18:54] redtape|renegade: you're not making sense [18:55] redtape|renegade: I'm using irssi. what do you mean with "just not the same ports" [18:55] forget about it, I'm bored with the whole thing. [18:56] uhkey === dgjones is now known as DJones === christel_ is now known as christel [19:02] but anyway, why should I move to using weechat? I've got it installed but I've not had time to have a proper look. most of the scripts I use though probably aren't ported to weechat so I'm not sure it would be worth it [19:03] didrocks sings the praises of weechat [19:03] not quite figured out what it has that irssi doesn't [19:07] irssi+plugins [19:07] what do you use scripts for on irc? === Guest676 is now known as Guest676|Away [19:08] i never saw the point of it personally [19:08] userlist,colours, === Guest676|Away is now known as CyberJacob [19:08] userlist? [19:08] I use colours in irssi, it makes it much easier to distinguish between people. === dwatkins_ is now known as dwatkins [19:08] pidgin has colours built in [19:08] shows users in window on rhs [19:08] ali1234: You're a very pleasent shade of geen [19:08] does that require a script? As far as I can recall, all I've ever done to customise irssi is download a theme [19:08] I also use tmux, though, so don't pay any attention to me ;) [19:09] meh, pidgin also shows user on rhs by default [19:09] so basically you use scripts to make up for the fact your client sucks? [19:09] i run irssi in screen on another server ali1234 [19:09] though I don't have different colours for each person, but I'm (now decreasingly) sure I used to [19:09] trolololol [19:09] i used to run pidgin tho [19:09] trololol indeed [19:09] ali1234: that's, basically, why anything is extensible isn't it? [19:09] kopete can run in client/server mode tho [19:10] i'm on some channels that i need to read every message [19:10] hence running in screen [19:11] pidgin doesnt allow this without a bouncer [19:11] i tried xchat for a few months, went back to irssi [19:12] i quite like most irc clients [19:13] except irssi cos when my screen session ends i have to remember how to connect as i never bothered adding the scripts to my . file [19:13] i use byobu [19:14] which autostarts when i ssh in [19:16] I just don't end my screen sessions [19:17] I think I've had to start irssi about four times in the past couple of years [19:22] it crashes on ircnet about once a month [19:24] autoconnecting to networks doesn't require any scripts tho [19:27] haha. Windows just shut itself down through overheating, started installing updates, then abruptly halted and now blue screens on boot [19:27] I really need to buy a games console [19:29] hah [19:29] Aww .. you were good while you lasted, my leet notebook. :: http://bit.ly/ZX9qgO [19:32] surely you can just upgrade it? [19:34] or if 12.04 is too much for it, switch to lubuntu or xubuntu [19:34] although my friend tony upgraded his netbook to 13.04 and said it was noticably faster (for unity) [19:36] http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/05/07/the-it-crowd-finale-chris-odowd/ [19:38] lol @gnome devs https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698544 [19:38] Gnome bug 698544 in Profiles "Background configuration is missing in terminal profile editor" [Normal,Resolved: wontfix] [19:39] yeah, saw that tweeted earlier [19:39] facepalm [19:40] made me cringe and lol at the same time [19:40] It's sort of like watching our politicians. It'd be hilarious if it didn't affect me... [19:41] Should be in a comedy work of fiction, this isn't the sort of thing that's supposed to happen in real life [19:41] also weird advert on telly from ms :main USP:do not track option on ie [19:42] * penguin42 admits that he thinks transparent terminals are the spawn of the devil; but I'd want to allow people to have them [19:42] I love transparent terminals. Can have the telly on in the background while I'm working :) [19:42] took me a long time to come round to that idea, though. I was really opposed to them until I spotted that that was possible [19:43] heh [19:44] it wasn't possible until they were AIGLX-powered [19:44] originally they just took a screenshot of your X root window, and displayed a correctly selected section of it as your terminal background [19:45] you'd especially notice when dragging the window about [19:45] Ahh, I miss the days of terminals where you'd drag it and see the background update [19:46] long long ago, your program wrote a character to a port - and thus it was written; and then over time the host rendered the character and it wrote... 8 bytes and it was written, and then it got fancy and antialiased, and then five layers of GL later... [19:47] haha, yeah, I did enjoy the obvious bodge with the desktop-background showing [19:50] Crumbs .. just tried to glue a lightbulb again .. :: http://bit.ly/121lP1h ::: D'oh [19:52] tried to glue a lightbulb? [19:54] BigRedS, Nearly did .. Pulled out at the last minute ,... My friend was saying .. "Leets glue this mother." [19:55] **Lets glue this ... [19:56] but when did it look like a good idea? [19:56] I'm not so much puzzled as to why you didn't, but why you nearly did. though, in all honesty, I'm not *that* interested :) [19:56] .. about 15 minutes ago when the socket became loose .. but just put in for another. [19:57] Oh surething. === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti [20:39] hmm, want to watch more Christophe Waltz [20:50] I'm sure that I've used something that had an option "reboot into Windows" in the reboot dialogue box, anyone else seen that or was it probably just a dream? [20:50] Aaages ago, probably pre-Ubuntu === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [21:01] blackadder, bbc2, now, :) [21:01] BigRedS: yeah, i have seen that [21:10] popey: why haven't I seen it recently? :) [21:14] BigRedS: i cant recall what system i saw it on [21:15] brobostigon: where are your channel irc stats? [21:15] we should probably link them in the /topic [21:15] popey: taylorworld.me.uk [21:17] popey: it looks like it is updating properly, i will check it more regularly. [21:19] chanserv seems dead [21:19] yeah, ddos [21:19] ah [21:19] eeeek [21:19] no topic changes for me then [21:20] is it updating properly.?. it looks like it is. [21:23] looks like it [21:23] good, :) === Cueball_ is now known as Cueball === DJones is now known as Guest5047 === Myrtti is now known as Guest95618 === matt_symes is now known as Guest10890 === mgdm_ is now known as Guest80867 === LjL is now known as Guest79223 === PaulW2U is now known as Guest86675 === issyl0 is now known as Guest28696 === Guest86675 is now known as PaulW2U === YaManicKill_ is now known as YaManicKill === Guest10890 is now known as matt_symes === matt_symes is now known as Guest55558 [22:20] wth is up with freenode today [22:21] ddos apparently [22:22] 19:34:07 [freenode] -kloeri(~kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri)- [Global Notice] Hi all, apologies for the continued netsplits. We're having some issues stemming from a DDoS attack [22:22] but we're working with our sponsors on attack mitigation. Thank you for using freenode. [22:22] 22:29:45 [freenode] -tomaw(tom@freenode/staff/tomaw)- [Global Notice] Hi all. We're just completing some administrative tasks after services extended tea break. They'll return shortly. [22:22] Sorry for the outage! [22:22] etc [22:24] ah [22:26] I did put stuff in Twitter/Identica/Google+/Facebook! [22:26] is that all :-) [22:29] Star Trek was fun. People should go and see it :) [22:35] intends to in a week or so; I've got some time off - can go and see it in the day when it'll be quieter === Guest28696 is now known as issyl0 [22:36] We've just been to a 20:30 showing. Screen had about 50 people tops in it I think [22:36] We did go and see the 2D version though [22:40] oh, wouldn't want 3d; I do want Imax though [22:41] * bigcalm looks forward to owning the blu-ray release [22:41] Now we need to see Ironman 3 and Despicable Me 2 [22:42] Question is, do I want to buy the original films on blu-ray? [22:43] do you like star trek? [22:43] Yes [22:43] do you have good eyesight and a big TV? [22:43] £62.65 on Amazon for the first 10 films [22:44] Yes and yes (well, 37") [22:44] is it a boxed set? [22:47] OT | I imagine you'll hear a lot about bird flu on Sun12th/May :: http://www.thelocal.fr/page/view/france-confirms-sars-like-virus-case :: Breakfast Show on Radio-3 would love that at 7.00am [22:47] * bigcalm adds it to his wish list [22:47] Yes [22:52] Humf, still with the ddosing then [22:55] Blu-ray on handbrake ? :\ mmmpft ! ::::: http://www.mint.com/blog/saving/how-to-save-money-when-youre-surrounded-by-big-spenders-0513/ ::: [22:55] **Blu-ray on Amazon.cws === bigcalm_ is now known as bigcalm === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey [23:05] !packages [23:05] You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Adept, "apt-cache search ", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 30000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways! === Ruint_ is now known as Ruint === triple-clones is now known as tripleclones === emma_ is now known as emma [23:29] davmor2: Aloha ! [23:38] !packages [23:38] You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Adept, "apt-cache search ", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 30000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways! === Guest55558 is now known as mcs_ [23:45] lubotu3: Looks like an error of the 3rd kind again. [23:45] redtape|renegade: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)