[00:03] <funky> hey guys
[00:03] <funky> I get processor id x86 family 6 model 7 stepping 19
[00:03] <funky> 10
[00:03] <funky> is it 32 or 64 bit?
[00:04] <utfans05> run a lspci in terminal
[00:05] <funky> its win 2000 terminal atm
[00:05] <funky> on which I want to install ubuntu
[00:05] <funky> I use set
[00:05] <funky> to show data
[00:06] <utfans05> funky, go into system properties and it should show what processor and if its 32 or 64 bit
[00:06] <gerhard> Hi, I'm now upgrading from lucid to precise. Will the bookmark menu retain intact in nautilus?
[00:06] <funky> utfans05: I can access cmd only
[00:07] <zeandre> Hello, i have a problem with sound
[00:07] <utfans05> funky then im not sure how to help you. you might want to try a windows irc channel
[00:07] <funky> processor architecture x=86
[00:07] <funky> does it mean its 32 or 64
[00:07] <zeandre> When I insert headphones it doesn't turn off speakers
[00:07] <funky> and yes I might ask in win
[00:07] <utfans05> thats 32 bit
[00:07] <gerhard> What will happen to the menue while transition from gnome2 to unity?
[00:07] <funky> ty
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> funky: You can try asking in ##windows
[00:07] <utfans05> if you see x86_64 then its 64
[00:10] <AtumT> Whats the command to check my ping?
[00:11] <gerhard> ping?
[00:11] <AtumT> ya, on this IRC channel
[00:12] <aaron__> iam using ubuntu 12.04 64 bit gnome fallback but in power options i cant choose the laptop to hibernate
[00:13] <AtumT> i guess its /quote ping nick, bit it doesnt show my latency
[00:14] <utfans05> AtumT, this is that i get * Ping reply from hubbard.freenode.net: ? second(s)
[00:14] <gerhard>  PING <Nick | Channel>
[00:15] <Prock> One or more modprobe configuration files to disable Nouveau are already present at: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf.  Please be sure you have rebooted your system since these files were written.  If you have rebooted, then Nouveau may be enabled for other reasons, such as being included in the system initial ramdisk or in your X configuration file.  Please consult the NVIDIA driver README and your Linux distribution's
[00:15] <Prock> and i did reboot
[00:19] <delac> hey, would anyone know if firefox's  layers acceleration (layers.acceleration.force-enabled=true) is in usable state with any drivers (intel, nvidia, fglrx, radeon)?
[00:22] <mish-> I have two separate xscreens and I want to use a console command to switch the mouse+keyboard input between them, how can I do that? :)
[00:22] <arti> can I install ubuntu from hd without making it bootable?
[00:23] <WeThePeople> what does dpkg --configure -a do?
[00:23] <arti> or first I need to format it and somehow add ubuntu?
[00:24] <michael87> ok I have a dumb question. Where do I have to go to thank the ubuntu devolopers for raring ringtail :)
[00:24] <histo> michael87: you can donate on the download page.
[00:25] <kunji1> So, I've been doing some googling, what I have so far is that XF86WLAN is being triggered, but should be handled by something.  What in Ubuntu 13.04 is normally supposed to handle this?  Others have assigned this to a different shortcut and have XF86WLAN continue to toggle wireless and execute the shortcut (http://www.preshweb.co.uk/2011/03/disabling-wifi-kill-switch-on-inspiron-17/).  In my cast it did not keep the toggle function and I c
[00:25] <emmaleah> Ubuntu chat?
[00:25] <arti> i got 1 hdd with win on it and 1 usb hdd with ubuntu iso
[00:25] <Rus> Hi. im having with setting up apt-mirror. i deleted the lock file. but now have the following issue: proceed indexes:[Ssh cannot open archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/source/Sources.gz: No such file. (next line) apt-mirror: can't open index in proceed_index_gz at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 449. can anyone help me?
[00:25] <histo> !dualboot | arti
[00:25] <arti> how I can install from usb without booting it?
[00:26] <histo> emmaleah: yes
[00:26] <arti> I know there are grub for example
[00:26] <michael87> histo, I'll have to do that wont I ? lol. raring is more fantastic on my laptop then 7 was. I can actually use all my buttons where windows 7 wouldn't let me and the window snapping and hot corners  feature is amazing. don't think I can live without it now
[00:26] <arti> so I create partions with grub loader and then what?
[00:26] <arti> copy iso to hdd and install it?
[00:26] <histo> arti: Do you need any of the files on the usb?
[00:27] <arti> histo usb yes , hdd no
[00:27] <histo> arti: What OS are you currently in?
[00:27] <Mikicacarica> http://tiny.cc/tf4tww
[00:27] <arti> at hdd box using win 2000
[00:27] <arti> safe mode with cmd
[00:27] <histo> !install | arti
[00:28] <histo> arti: well you need to boot the iso file either via cd or put it on the usb drive after backing up your files there.  Then you can install to the hard drive. There are other ways to install as well documented by ubottu
[00:30] <arti> how I can made win 2000 hdd bootable?
[00:31] <arti> I copy iso to say c:\
[00:31] <arti> then i have to install grub on c?
[00:31] <arti> thinks
[00:31] <SonikkuAmerica> arti: Nope.
[00:31] <SonikkuAmerica> arti: You use boot-repair from your live media.
[00:32] <kunji1> Hmm, from what people are saying here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/385646 it sounds like Network Manage is supposed to catch that symbol somehow.
[00:32] <histo> arti: no
[00:32] <arti> SonikkuAmerica:  pc here - 0 CDD - O boot from anythig aparth HDD or CDD
[00:32] <Reddy999> arti: hope this helps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RghpdQH1bpo
[00:32] <arti> so I can use win 2000 hd to boot
[00:32] <arti> thatsa it
[00:32] <histo> arti: No
[00:32] <thomas> join #flightgear
[00:33] <arti> usually if its windows I can format c: launch it and it does the rest
[00:33] <histo> arti: There are instructions on the download page and ubottu has given you instructions on how to install.
[00:33] <arti> all from same hdd
[00:33] <histo> arti: No you cannot with windows or any other os do that.
[00:33] <Guest72229> is there a flightgear forum and if so how can I join it please
[00:33] <histo> arti: You still need to boot to some type of OS to install
[00:33] <kunji1> And I found this, which sounds identical to my issue and is about that bug.  The other message threads appear to not be on the server any longer though T.T   http://www.mailrepository.com/message/3688641/
[00:33] <Reddy999> arti: to install Ubuntu using USB .. pls check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RghpdQH1bpo
[00:34] <Guest72229> or rather flightgear channel?
[00:34] <arti> histo usd boot not suported by bios
[00:34] <arti> Reddy999:
[00:34] <arti> else I could of done it
[00:34] <Mikicacarica> Watch Chicago vs Miami LIVE here  ---> http://tiny.cc/tf4tww
[00:34] <histo> arti: then install via dvd or netboot
[00:34] <histo> !ot | miki
[00:35] <arti> histo ok netboot is idea however it seems tcp ip does not work on win2000
[00:35] <arti> and there are 0 dvd drive there too
[00:35] <histo> arti: Has nothign to do with windows
[00:35] <kunji1> histo: So I guess there are bug reports and it is known of, though not easy to find and without a fix after like 3.5 years T.T
[00:35] <arti> histo how netboot works then?
[00:35] <arti> i though it works via win
[00:36] <histo> arti: pull the hard drive out of the machine and install ubuntu using a different computer. Then put the hard drive back in... Or get a cdrom drive hooked up to it that you can boot from.
[00:36] <WeThePeople> what does dpkg --configure -a do?
[00:36] <arti> yes
[00:36] <kunji1> ?  I thought the bios did netboot, but the OS needs to be net bootable or something?
[00:36] <arti> ty
[00:37] <arti> hmmm
[00:37] <arti> i might see if I can somehow add usb boot to bios
[00:37] <arti> :D
[00:40] <histo> arti: How old is the machine?
[00:40] <arti> machine is new however 2006 bios
[00:40] <arti> it was flashed today and dude seems to put older one on it
[00:40] <supercom32> So I Installed ubuntu 12.10, then I tried to make GDM my default display manager by going "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm". Now the login screen never shows up and it's just black. If I change back to lightDM then it works fine. Any ideas how to get GDM working?
[00:40] <histo> arti: If it's a new machine then it can boot to usb
[00:41] <arti> histo:  when i press f12 it says current version supports hdd and cdd only
[00:41] <histo> supercom32: Is there a reason you don't want lightdm?
[00:41] <arti> its some crazy machine :D
[00:42] <supercom32> histo: Doesn't gnome-shell work best using GDM since that's what the developers use?
[00:42] <histo> arti: Well then you are stuck doing it one of the ways I've already told you.
[00:42] <thomas____> list
[00:42] <supercom32> histo: I was told that some bells and whistles don't work with lightDM.
[00:42] <thomas____>  / list
[00:42] <histo> supercom32: You don't even need a display manager to use gnome-shell or any other desktop environment for that matter.
[00:43] <supercom32> histo: well, that's good to know. But it still doesn't explain why GDM fails to work. Lots of instructions on the internet seem to indicate what I did should make it work.
[00:44] <arti> i see
[00:44] <arti> so linux can not self start with hdd
[00:44] <arti> like windows
[00:45] <arti> well I get cd then I got old cdrom somewre
[00:46] <histo> supercom32: yes it should work. How did you install gdm?
[00:46] <histo> arti: yes it can boot form hdd like windows
[00:46] <supercom32> histo: I used "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings"
[00:47] <histo> arti: What do you think it does w2hen you install it to a hard drive?
[00:47] <histo> supercom32: is gdm installed?  dpkg -l | grep gdm
[00:48] <Cheery> when I upgraded to raring, I noticed that youtube videos started stuttering
[00:48] <supercom32> histo: yep, it's installed.
[00:49] <Cheery> I wonder what's wrong? pulseaudio again?
[00:49] <histo> supercom32: No idea I'd look for log files in /var/log
[00:50] <Cheery> pulseaudio is the new butler of linux audio
[00:51] <histo> supercom32: but either way using gdm doesn't matter to the desktop environment
[00:52] <xzased_> hi there, I just upgraded to 13.04 and my virtualenvs all went kaput. How do I go about fixing them? they have all the installed packages on each lib folder but fail to import them
[00:52] <kunji1> Some of the new UEFI machine don't boot to USB, http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[00:53] <kunji1> There might be better UEFI boot stuff, I haven't really looked around
[00:56] <histo> kunji1: what?
[00:57] <histo> kunji1: what modern bios and or firmware have you seen that doesn't boot to USB?
[01:03] <diddi_> I just installed rxvt-unicode-256color with software center. I cant seem to find it and test it out. I want to know the "real" name before adding it as enviroment variable
[01:03] <Morph4me> histo: he might have it confused with what this (CSM on some MBs) is capable of doing ....ie UEFI only for usb (storage device)....but that is a users choice via the Bios settings  > http://oi50.tinypic.com/2zsv591.jpg
[01:09] <deadweasel> DDR3 is helpful
[01:09] <deadweasel> 1333mhz is helpful, thank you.
[01:10] <histo> deadweasel: from the man page While this is a good point in terms  of
[01:10] <histo>        report  speed  and  safeness, this also makes the presented information
[01:10] <histo>        possibly unreliable.
[01:11] <deadweasel> hooray!
[01:11] <deadweasel> :)  I'll turn on my machine and do it the right way then...
[01:11] <deadweasel> *off
[01:12] <histo> Ahh was going to say sudo dmidecod --type memory would sort the info to just memory
[01:13] <supercom32> histo: So I'm still trying to get GDM working since some features of gnome-shell depend on it. However, I still can't figure out why the login screen won't show. Maybe it's trying to load some Unity one, which doesn't work with GDM?
[01:13] <OerHeks> histo, sudo lshw -short -C memory or  this one is nicer: sudo dmidecode -t memory
[01:14] <kkerwin> !bumblebee
[01:14] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[01:14] <histo> supercom32: No features of gnome shell depend upon a display manager.
[01:15] <histo> supercom32: YOu don't even need a display manager.
[01:15] <supercom32> histo: Sure, but regardless I would like GDM to work. :P
[01:16] <supercom32> histo: If I change to KDM for example, I'm sure i'd get the same black screen.
[01:16] <histo> doubtfull
[01:16] <histo> supercom32: Did you check for any logs?
[01:16] <histo> supercom32: perhaps you can paste them so we can take a look.
[01:16] <supercom32> I looked in the logs, but I'm not familiar enough to know which one to search or what to look for.
[01:22] <abc_test> hello
[01:24] <onionHead_> They all drunk
[01:30] <kingfisher64> can someone recommend me an aes encryption program for ubuntu that works with 13.04. Thanks
[01:32] <nrdb__> kingfisher64, that is very general, can you narrow that done a bit, GUI or console etc.
[01:35] <utfans05> this channel died.... lol
[01:35] <WeThePeople> odd
[01:35] <utfans05> well it is friday night too....
[01:37] <utfans05> its a mass join of ppl...
[01:37] <sonofzeus> Hey there
[01:38] <sonofzeus> I xcant seem to find skype in synaptic package manager on alive cd?
[01:39] <sonofzeus> Anyone on?
[01:39] <utfans05> ony 1550 ppl on
[01:39] <sonofzeus> WTF?
[01:40] <sonofzeus> Whats up with these logs?
[01:40] <sonofzeus> OMGGGGGGGGGGGG
[01:41] <sonofzeus> Oh no how shall I hide this shit?
[01:41] <sonofzeus> Its flooding my screen
[01:42] <utfans05> yeah same here
[01:42] <utfans05> must be some connection issues with the irc server for these people
[01:42] <utfans05> afk a while
[01:47] <VisceralSound> Anyone on 13.04 have any knowledge on installing an Asus PCE-N15 driver (rtl8188ce) I'm getting some errors when "making" it.
[01:47] <sowling> (//) Ola (//)
[01:48] <Runemoro> Hi, when I do "X -configure" it tells me "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices."
[01:49] <Runemoro> Also, the computer boots in failsafe mode automaticly
[01:49] <capinjack> Hello, all
[01:51] <pulsoste> I'm trying to install wireshark, but my ubuntu is broken, can someone please help - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653062/
[02:04] <marshall> hey ubuntu
[02:04] <marshall> how do I see which process is killing my CPU?
[02:04] <th0r> marshall: top?
[02:04] <marshall> top says "97.7%id"
[02:04] <straemer> marshall: there's a program called system monitor if you want a gui
[02:05] <marshall> straemer: nah, i'm running ubuntu server
[02:05] <marshall> th0r: top says "97.7%id", that means my CPU is being used, ya?
[02:06] <th0r> marshall: probably. The top item in top should be the one using the most. Check that pid with 'ps ax' and you can see what the program name is
[02:08] <hsn> 97id means that your cpu is almost idle
[02:11] <aaron_> how can i turn off the backlight keyboard in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit?
[02:11] <hsn> try fn+5
[02:11] <chris40312> Anyone with Ubuntu 12.04 connecting to Citrix shared app?
[02:13] <aaron_> hsn, its the brightness of the screen
[02:14] <hsn> try other fn combos
[02:15] <aaron_> hsn, nothing
[02:16] <hsn> on my asus its fn + f3/f4
[02:16] <hsn> f5 is on my sonny
[02:17] <aaron_> hsn, i was thinking about a script or somethjng
[02:18] <hsn> like that? sudo "echo 1 > /sys/class/leds/keyboard/brightness"
[02:19] <aaron_> hsn, maybe
[02:19] <aaron_> hsn i found something
[02:19] <aaron_> hsn rr
[02:19] <aaron_> brb
[02:21] <aaron_> hsn, can you tell me the command again no luck here
[02:22] <hsn> it needs asus modules loaded to work
[02:22] <hsn>  sudo "echo 1 > /sys/class/leds/keyboard/brightness"
[02:23] <aaron_> hsn, it works i dont want to work
[02:23] <aaron_> i want to gain more battery duration
[02:23] <aaron_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/171384/keyboard-backlighting-not-working-on-a-vaio-laptop
[02:23] <aaron_> i have a vaio laptop
[02:23] <aaron_> hsn, what do you think of that?
[02:25] <aaron_> hsn, this command that you wrote is to turn off the backlit?
[02:26] <hsn> no, to turn it on
[02:26] <aaron_> hsn, i should repleace the 1 with 0?
[02:26] <aaron_> hsn, to turn it off
[02:26] <aaron_> ?
[02:26] <hsn> yes
[02:26] <aaron_> its temporary?
[02:27] <hsn> but on sony, it will be different filename
[02:27] <hsn> yes
[02:27] <hsn> on sonny it should be /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/kbd_backlight
[02:27] <hsn> if kernel module loaded
[02:28] <aaron_> hsn, look at that
[02:28] <aaron_> hsn, from modinfo sony-laptop | grep keyboard
[02:30] <aaron_> hsn, hmm
[02:30] <aaron_> hsn, echo "options sony-laptop kbd_backlight=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/sony-laptop.conf
[02:30] <aaron_> hsn, i'll reboot
[02:31] <Jagst3r15> how do I send a file to myself using ftp command
[02:31] <aaron__> hsn, no luck
[02:33] <th0r> Jagst3r15, with ftp a file is transferred between an ftp server and an ftp client. You need server software on one computer, and client software on the other
[02:33] <Jagst3r15> oh
[02:34] <seyfarth_> accidnetally changed permissions across my entire home directory. what's the default file/folder permissions for user files on 13.04
[02:36] <tomreyn> Jagst3r15: maybe what you want to do is to transfer files to your home computer which runs linux? in this case you could install openssh-server on your home computer and use the sftp protocol (and a client for it) to transfer files to it. that's usually a preferred option unless you really need FTP for some reason.
[02:36] <eddievanhoy> Can anyone point me to a room to help me get the netflix app to work
[02:38] <Injigo> evening peoples
[02:39] <maximiliano> hello guys, i seem to be unable to use a mouse that i have used before, i have plugged the cord in all my USB ports and ubuntu doesn't recognise it, i know the problem isn't the mouse because it works in windows, any idea how i can get it to work again?
[02:41] <maximiliano> nvm, it decided to work again, idk why :/
[02:41] <maximiliano> i might be back later, thanks guys
[02:41] <aaron_> does anybody knows how to turn off the backlit keyboard?
[02:41] <aleck> Speaking spanish?
[02:44] <Injigo> i seem to be getting huge log files, with no rotation, unsure of how to proceed
[02:46] <tomreyn> Injigo: learn about how to use / configure logrotate
[02:47] <Injigo> tomreyn: thanks, yeah, just learning that now actually
[02:47] <kkerwin> Anyone have any experience with bumblebee and optimus?
[02:47] <tomreyn> !anyone | kkerwin
[02:48] <yofun> does anyone know of a package. that would let me pasue/play youtube videos from the system tray in the sound
[02:48] <yofun> oo?
[02:48] <yofun> wow
[02:48] <Injigo> permission denied? i wonder why should do next
[02:48] <tomreyn> Injigo: depends on what you were trying to do
[02:49] <kkerwin> tomreyn: Very well; I was under the impression that my question was ... highly specialized.
[02:49] <kkerwin> In any event.
[02:50] <Injigo> tomreyn: i was being sarcastic but i ran "logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf" in a terminal
[02:50] <tomreyn> kkerwin: i bet a couple of people here use those. personally i don't and i have zero experience with them. but the those who have will more likely respond when you ask a more specific question
[02:50] <[0gb_us]> When I buy software from the Ubuntu Software Center, it there a way to keep the downloaded package for my archives?
[02:50] <walltender>  In open source software, which version is the latest, v.1.13 or v1.9?
[02:50] <kkerwin> According to my research, the tutorial contained at http://eternalvoid.net/tutorials/linux-optimus-gt650m/ is the premier tutorial for configuring a GT 650M chip to work without allowing an nVidia driver to proactively delete one's OpenGL drivers. Unfortunately, I cannot seem to get the options provided for the nvidia module install to provide a complete compilation of the dkms module.
[02:51] <[0gb_us]> 1.13 is later than 1.9.
[02:51] <[0gb_us]> In any software, not just open source.
[02:51] <tomreyn> Injigo: won't help until there is a configuration on how to handle those big files you have already.
[02:53] <tomreyn> walltender: the former
[02:53] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[02:53] <tomreyn> walltender: the former, since 13 > 9
[02:53] <Injigo> tomreyn: oh? i was under the impression that there is a preconfigured configuration file after install
[02:53] <yofun> does anyone know of a package. that would let me pasue/play youtube videos from the system tray in the sound (ubuntu 13.04)
[02:55] <tomreyn> Injigo: there is. you would have to have log files in non-standard locations, unusual error conditions, or log files not handled by logcheck's default configuration to have those log files already covered grow large.
[02:56] <lefftte> hello  everybody
[02:56] <yofun> dang it who highlighted me?
[02:56] <lefftte> em.. i want to ask how can i uninstall a app?
[02:57] <walltender> tomaw: What kind of convention does it follow? From this link http://gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/powertop/commits/master, the tags order looks like v1.9 > v1.13, but I don't know if the tags are in order?
[02:57] <Injigo> tomreyn: right, my kern.log and sys.log are unusually large (about 4.5 GB each). i'm fairly certain that it was the firewall dropping full logging into them. anyway, i disabled the firewall logging...
[02:57] <tomreyn> lefftte: if by "app" you mean a package, then you can use software center or synaptic
[02:58] <yofun> does anyone know of a package. that would let me pasue/play youtube videos from the system tray in the sound (ubuntu 13.04)
[02:58] <lefftte> tomreyn:   i will have a try tks
[02:59] <tomreyn> walltender: i assume github just does an alphabetical sort there.
[03:01] <Tex_Nick> yofun:  don't know what player you're using ... but many players & browsers allow you to play/pause with the "keyboard spacebar"
[03:02] <yofun> Tex_Nick:  yes but i want to be able to pasue/play with my systrau
[03:02] <xavier23> Hi guys…… anyone know, how to increase swap file space on ubuntu? Is it necessary to create new swap file, or can i just edit existing file?
[03:02] <yofun> Tex_Nick:  yes but i want to be able to pasue/play with my systray i seen it in ubuntu 12.10 but i cant rember how to enabled it
[03:03] <tomreyn> xavier23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_more_swap.3F
[03:04] <Tex_Nick> yofun:  how exactly is that supposed to work ?
[03:05] <yofun> i have  the youtube "web app" open and i hit the sound icon and there would be a play/pasue button for the current youtube video Tex_Nick
[03:06] <kkerwin> Having difficulty installing bumblebee using the recipe here: http://eternalvoid.net/tutorials/linux-optimus-gt650m/ ... dkms fails to run. Anyone have experience using bumblebee for nvidia optimus cards?
[03:08] <iamgiam> Hi peeps
[03:09] <zerozero> zup
[03:09] <iamgiam> is there an Intel 64 download for Ubuntu of does the amd64 do both ?
[03:09] <tomreyn> kkerwin: have you tried this, yet? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[03:10] <kkerwin> tomreyn: Yes. The problem with it is that the stock nvidia-current driver will quietly and "helpfully" remove OpenGL files.
[03:10] <hdon> iamgiam, what?
[03:10] <hdon> oh
[03:10] <zerozero> there is a torrent for Ubuntu 64 here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[03:10] <kkerwin> tomreyn: The "incantation" in the tutorial I listed is supposed to get around that. But, it's failing.
[03:11] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:11] <iamgiam> I ask as on the main dl page it only gives 2 options . x86 or 65 and then downlods the amd64.iso
[03:12] <zerozero> iamgiam: I dunno, try both, they're small dl's
[03:13] <tomreyn> kkerwin: what do you mean by "stock nvidia-current driver"?
[03:13] <iamgiam> the 13.04 amd64 just hangs. the x86 works but I would prefer the 64 bit version. its maybe a graphics issue but unsure.
[03:13] <kkerwin> Either the package that one can install through ubuntu, the ppa I found,  or the file downloaded from nvidia's website.
[03:13] <tomreyn> kkerwin: it seems to be that the ubuntu.com how-to involves using a packag called bumblebee-nvidia
[03:14] <tomreyn> kkerwin: i see, well then i'm afraid i can't help.
[03:14] <kkerwin> tomreyn: Thank you.
[03:15] <kkerwin> tomreyn: Actually, I'm going though some logs now. Are you familiar with a python package called "apport"? If so, what provides it, please?
[03:15] <tomreyn> iamgiam: by "intel 64", are you referring to IA64 ?
[03:15] <jose__> Help
[03:15] <jose__> to install wireless driver
[03:16] <tomreyn> iamgiam: if so, use the x86 one
[03:16] <iamgiam> bit of a noob here its an intel core i5
[03:16] <jose__> I downloaded the source code
[03:17] <tomreyn> iamgiam: then you should be able to use the x86_64 / amd64 one
[03:17] <jose__> While write in the folder: make install
[03:17] <tomreyn> kkerwin: apport it ubuntu's bug reporting utility
[03:17] <kkerwin> tomreyn: Found it: python-apport
[03:18] <kkerwin> tomreyn: And it still didn't solve my problem, damn.
[03:18] <jose__> /lib/modules/3.2.0-40-generic/build
[03:18] <iamgiam> ok thanks so the blank screen is more likely a graphics issue. joy lol. will try some of the switches to get passed it.
[03:18] <jose__> don't exist file or directory
[03:18] <tomreyn> jose__: before you try to build modules yourself manually, you should try to use a packaged build.
[03:19] <tomreyn> kkerwin: i also don't see how apport relates to bumblebee?
[03:20] <jose__> How is that done?
[03:20] <tomreyn> jose__: which driver are you trying to install, for which hardware, and why? and which ubuntu version are you running?
[03:20] <kkerwin> tomreyn: It doesn't. Not to bumblebee. The script that I'm attempting to troubleshoot is for installing an nVidia driver. It was failing, and the last message that it had before failing in the logs was an import error on the apport python module.
[03:21] <jose__> Ubuntu 12.04
[03:21] <jose__> Realtek RTL8188CE
[03:21] <tomreyn> kkerwin: i see. i guess that's something i can't help with, i'm afraid.
[03:21] <walltender> How do I remove self compiled program without "uninstall" option?
[03:22] <kkerwin> No problem. I figured that finding the right python module would be easy enough, and I found it. Problem was, it didn't fix the larger problem. Thanks again, though.
[03:22] <jose__> Don't work the wireless
[03:23] <jose__> HP mini
[03:24] <tomreyn> jose__: thanks for aswering two of the questions i asked. do you also want to answer the other two? which driver are you trying to install, and why?
[03:24] <tomreyn> walltender: you'd on your own, that's not supported.
[03:24] <tomreyn> *you're
[03:24] <jose__> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8188CE
[03:25] <jose__> Don't work the wireless
[03:26] <walltender> tomreyn: There must be a way?
[03:28] <yofun> looks like they got rid of the youtube systray app :(
[03:29] <zerozero> Does anyone know how to install drivers for the wireless dongle TP-LINK TL-WN722N???
[03:30] <tomreyn> jose__: remove all the files you downloaded and extracted. then do this: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-precise-generic && sudo modprobe rtl8192ce
[03:30] <tomreyn> jose__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/277169/module-rtl8192ce-not-found-howto-reinstall-ubuntus-realtek-driver-on12-04
[03:30] <yofun> zerozero:  what version?
[03:30] <tomreyn> jose__: you should only turn to driver downloads from some websites as a last resort, most of the time there are working packages.
[03:31] <zerozero> 12.04
[03:31] <tomreyn> walltender: not supported, just like the installation method you chose.
[03:31] <jose__> ok
[03:31] <zerozero> this dongle has no linux support on its offical site
[03:32] <grendal-prime> so got a client..ubuntu 12.04 on her laptop.  everything working fine for a few weeks..then out of the blue.she runs systemupdate right..now every time she shuts the thing down, i have to yank the battery and discharge the power and then sometimes it will start
[03:32] <yofun> zerozero:  you could try http://askubuntu.com/questions/98844/how-do-i-get-a-tp-link-tl-wn722n-wireless-card-working
[03:33] <PandaFoar> Hi, I was trying to apt-get dist-upgrade and it mentioned libc-2.13.so needing to be out of /lib so I moved i to my home directory and now my system seems pretty much broken
[03:33] <PandaFoar> Is there anyway I can fix this? I'm still connected via ssh
[03:33] <zerozero> Or how can I install the windows 7 drivers for the TL-WN722N wireless dongle?
[03:33] <grendal-prime> presario cq56 is the model  blink codes dont match anything that compaq has on there website..it just blinks continously
[03:33] <tomreyn> zerozero: ath9k_htc is the driver module you want
[03:34] <zerozero> Thanks yofun
[03:34] <yofun> anytime :)
[03:34] <zerozero> thanks tomreyn
[03:35] <savio> Hi
[03:36] <PandaFoar> Is there anyway I can fix this? I'm still connected via ssh
[03:37] <tomreyn> zerozero: generally this was probably a bad hardware choice, see the comment on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link
[03:39] <JoshDreamland> could someone please tell me how to fix whatever is supposed to be responsible for launching firefox from thunderbird/pidgin/etc?
[03:39] <zerozero> Yeah it says "waste of money." I seen on a forum that it was recommended on BackTrack 5 for out-of-the -box support, but they lied...
[03:40] <zerozero> got it cheap on eBay tho...
[03:40] <PandaFoar> Hi, I was trying to apt-get dist-upgrade and it mentioned libc-2.13.so needing to be out of /lib so I moved i to my home directory and now my system seems pretty much broken
[03:41] <yofun> PandaFoar:  cant you just move it back?
[03:42] <PandaFoar> yofun: Nope mv depends on libc.so
[03:42] <PandaFoar> BUT while waiting I remembered you could set libary/binary paths
[03:42] <yofun> agh
[03:42] <PandaFoar> So I just did export LD_LIBRARY=$(pwd)
[03:42] <yofun> did it work?
[03:42] <PandaFoar> Yes
[03:42] <yofun> nice
[03:42] <yofun> :)
[03:43] <sanav> hello i'm trying to access apache2 server 's index page through my external IP of my system.It work for internal IP and localhost .Please guid me how to do that .Thanks
[03:43] <PandaFoar> New SSH connections weren't allowed though and my server has been getting DDOS attacks throughout the day
[03:43] <yofun> ah:(
[03:43] <zerozero> Does anyone recommend any wireless dongles with full reaver and aircrack support? Prehaps something like the RTL8187 chipset?
[03:44] <JoshDreamland> Whenever anything tries to open a link in Firefox, I get the error, "Firefox is already running, but is not responding."
[03:44] <JoshDreamland> Can anyone tell me the config file that is responsible for handling URLs?
[03:44] <sanav> here is my /etc/hosts file : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653286/
[03:44] <_anARCHist_> any one ever have the issue where ubuntu server 12.10 wont connect with a static ip
[03:45] <kkerwin> Alright, managed to get **most** things to work. Problem that I'm having now is that my computer is still injecting the nouveau driver even though it is blacklisted.
[03:46] <calligar> the default desktop edition of ubuntu, what is it? Unity desktop?
[03:46] <kkerwin> calligar: Yep
[03:46] <PandaFoar> yofun: and somehow i broke it by moving the files back to /lib
[03:46] <calligar> kk, thx
[03:46] <yofun> ha PandaFoar fix it again? :P
[03:46] <yofun> reset the path?
[03:47] <JoshDreamland> New question: Does anyone have an xdg-open that doesn't fail at live?
[03:47] <PandaFoar> yofun: How so?
[03:48] <yofun> PandaFoar:  what you did earlyer export LD_LIBRARY=$(pwd)
[03:48] <jose__> Don't work wireless :(
[03:48] <yofun> wont it do it again?
[03:48] <PandaFoar> yofun: It will not
[03:48] <yofun> oh :/ why not?
[03:48] <PandaFoar> ls: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:49] <PandaFoar> Anything that depends on C is giving the same error
[03:49] <yofun> :( hmmm
[03:49] <jose__> Help
[03:49] <JoshDreamland> wow, uninstalled xdg-utils and it's still broken
[03:50] <jose__> I need driver for wireless
[03:50] <PandaFoar> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/root/libBack/lib/
[03:50] <PandaFoar> Is that the correct command for setting multiple paths in a variable?
[03:51] <jose__> I have Ubuntu 12.04, HP mini, Realtek RTL8188CE.
[03:59] <PandaFoar> Hi, I was trying to apt-get dist-upgrade and it mentioned libc-2.13.so needing to be out of /lib so I moved i to my home directory and now my system seems pretty much broken. Keep getting "error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[03:59] <PandaFoar> whenever I try and run most commands
[04:03] <PandaFoar> Hi, I was trying to apt-get dist-upgrade and it mentioned libc-2.13.so needing to be out of /lib so I moved i to my home directory and now my system seems pretty much broken. Keep getting "error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" whenever I try and run most commands
[04:03] <tomreyn> PandaFoar: reinstall, or try to fix it from a live cd. somewhere you made a big mistake there. touching libc*.so is never a good idea. nor is running apt-get dist-upgrade unless you are following some official how-to.
[04:04] <PandaFoar> tomreyn: I still have shell access, I managed to get everything working before using LD_LIBRARY_PATH but now that isn't working
[04:06] <PandaFoar> I haven't deleted the libraries either, they are still present just in different folders
[04:07] <tomreyn> try running /bin/busybox
[04:07] <PandaFoar> no such file
[04:07] <tomreyn>  /bin/static-sh ?
[04:08] <PandaFoar> Nothing
[04:08] <_anARCHist_> any one ever have the issue where ubuntu server 12.10 wont connect with a static ip
[04:08] <tomreyn> PandaFoar: /usr/lib/initramfs-tools/bin/busybox ?
[04:08] <PandaFoar> no iniramfstools folder
[04:09] <tomreyn> PandaFoar: can't help you there
[04:10] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: most likely. but that's not one but many different possible causes for the result you're describing.
[04:10] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: so you should provide a more detailed description of the problem, ideally containing error messages.
[04:11] <_anARCHist_> it was working at on point.
[04:11] <_anARCHist_> then it stoped after updates
[04:12] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: so i assume the problem is that the system cannot connect to the internet or some other network it is connected to, right? do you still have access to this system, though? if so, by which means?
[04:12] <PandaFoar> tomreyn: Any way to move files without mv? If there's an alternate way to read files I could echo $(command to read here) >> libraryfile.so
[04:13] <PandaFoar> or make symbolic links without ln
[04:13] <_anARCHist_> i can connect with in the sytem
[04:13] <_anARCHist_> full access
[04:13] <tomreyn> PandaFoar: you could try cp or cat. but i really think your system is hosed and i don't feel like trying to support you at this point.
[04:14] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: so you have keyboard and monitor attached to the computer and you are next to it or something?
[04:14] <_anARCHist_> yes
[04:15] <_anARCHist_> i tried dhcp it worked for a little bit at one point. but when it static it fails
[04:15] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: then check /var/log/syslog - it should say why it failed to connect or what went wrong.
[04:17] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: also look at the output of "ip link show" and "ip addr show" to see whether the interface is up and whether an ip address is assigned.
[04:18] <_anARCHist_> ifconfig eth0 up then ifconfig shows
[04:18] <_anARCHist_> eth0 but no ip
[04:20] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: try this: grep -C10  ': link up' /var/log/syslog*
[04:21] <_anARCHist_> ok give me a few minutes
[04:21] <tomreyn> it should linst the line from syslog where youthe interface was brought up, with some context.
[04:21] <tomreyn> *list
[04:21] <mojtaba1> Hi, I have Asus router (rt-n66u), Does anybody know how can I stream the video files which are in Hard drive attached to my router, via my ubuntu?
[04:22] <danlamanna> silly, frustrating issue here. I have terminal bound to Ctrl+Alt+T and no matter where my cursor is it always opens on the left monitor
[04:22] <danlamanna> anyway I can always get it to show up where my cursor is?
[04:23] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: i'm afraid i need to head out. check in #ubuntu-server , too.
[04:23] <A1Recon> mojtaba1: So you got the The Dark Knight eh?? Well, have you tried it before in some other OS??
[04:23] <danlamanna> (using mate)
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: you know a way to sort syslog into colours/groups for easy reading?
[04:23] <_anARCHist_> thanks ill do these steps then check back tommorow tomreyn
[04:24] <utfans05> evening
[04:24] <utfans05> or night which ever yall perfer
[04:24] <_anARCHist_> ether
[04:24] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: if you open it with a text editor, it may apply some syntax coloring, vim does for example if you have "syntax on" set.
[04:24] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: good luck!
[04:24] <utfans05> http://www.facebook.com/twitchtv
[04:25] <A1Recon> utfans05: How ahead/behind of GMT are u?
[04:25] <_anARCHist_> thanks
[04:25] <utfans05> I am Central Time in the USA so i believe its -6 right now
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: tnx lemme try syntax on
[04:25]  * _anARCHist_ ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.9.4 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium  ** CPU: AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (1.00 GHz) ** RAM: 5606 MB Total (1877 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon(TM) HD 6520G ** Uptime: 42.82 Hours **
[04:26] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Yes. Actually no.
[04:26] <A1Recon> utfans05: Im +0530 hrs so its morning 1000 hrs here
[04:26] <utfans05> so where appx, Im in Texas
[04:26] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Do you know how can I stream my videos from the hard drive?
[04:26] <A1Recon> mojtaba1: Have u tried that streaming thing before??
[04:28] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Actually I could not. :-P
[04:28] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Have you had such experience?
[04:29] <utfans05> A1Recon: where appx are you located I'm in Texas
[04:30] <mojtaba1> Have anybody had the experience of streaming video files on ubuntu?
[04:31] <quantumvm> exit
[04:32] <A1Recon> mojtaba1: sorry for logging out!! a small accident
[04:33] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: No problem. Have you had such experience?
[04:33] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Do you know what should I do?
[04:33] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: I am also interested to stream the videos on my android phone.
[04:34] <Jeckidy> Who's getting the OUYA?
[04:35] <xavier23> Hi……… anyone know if its normal to require > 5mins to create a 3GB swapfile on ubuntu?
[04:35] <A1Recon> mojtaba1: I do stream from my PC to my Android everyday, although I have never done HDD stream through my router. Apparently your HDD needs to be formatted to EXT3 for BEST use. Here's a link http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?t=8733
[04:37] <A1Recon> mojtaba1: And I also read in smallnetbuilder.com that the maual given by ASUS sucks, so you can look at reviews by smallnetbuilder.com and the comments over there for more help
[04:37] <xavier23> anybody?
[04:38] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Do you know what should I do to stream my files from the HDD to my computer?
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !swap | xavier23
[04:39] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Could you please also let me know how can I stream from my PC to my mobile? (galaxy note I)
[04:40] <utfans05> A1Recon: where are you located at, I'm in Texas
[04:40] <xavier23> lotuspsychje: thanks, i know what a swap file is. my question is : it takes more than 5 minutes to create one on my system. is this normal ????
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> xavier23: depends how large your swap will be, are you in setup?
[04:41] <teguh> hy
[04:41] <teguh> hy all
[04:42] <xavier23> lotuspsychje: no just running from terminal on existing install. it's 3GB….
[04:42] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Are you there?
[04:42] <jamie_> Hey all, I'm considering a move to ubuntu for my server (proliant microserver).  I just have some questions... :)
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> xavier23: that might take a while yes
[04:44] <utfans05> !ask | jamie_
[04:46] <A1Recon> mojtaba1: sorry i was away
[04:46] <jamie_> Thanks utfans05, I just wanted to ask about  Ubuntu's version of window's remote desktop connection.  Can it be done from windows? how does it comepare to windows?
[04:46] <A1Recon> utfans05: do you mind if i PM you?
[04:46] <jamie_> rather, window's version of RDC
[04:46] <utfans05> A1Recon: sure
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653400/
[04:47] <utfans05> jamie_: you use ssh to connect to the server its totally text based and the equivalent in windows is putty
[04:47] <jamie_> thanks utfans05 !
[04:47] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Could you please help me to stream video from HDD to my pc or from my pc to my phone?
[04:47] <utfans05> jamie_: if you have any more questions just go ahead and ask
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> !info xbmc > lotuspsychje
[04:50] <denelius> a beginners question re display mangers ubuntu 12.04 - how to check which display manager is installed? i think i have both installed but lightdm is default, which I am happy with - do i need to un-install gdm? any pointers much appreciated
[04:51] <utfans05> have you replaced it or using the one it came packaged with?
[04:51] <utfans05> denelius: have you replaced it or using the one it came packaged with?
[04:54] <denelius> so it i believe it came with lightdm - i then ran into an issue which i resolved however in doing so installed gdm which did not fix my issue and I believe have since gone back to light (set to default) i dont think i have replaced it - it was already there so didnt update
[04:54] <utfans05> denelius: so what are you looking to do, remove one or the other?
[04:55] <hellodavep> Where can I find detailed information about the WiFi network I am connected to? Such as DNS servers assigned via DHCP, Gateway, ect.
[04:55] <denelius> all is fine now - i think- i would just like to know if i need to remove gdm to avoid possible conflict or future errors?
[04:55] <denelius> also how to check which dm I am running
[04:56] <utfans05> hellodavep: if you look in the top right hand side you will see a wifi signal indicator, that will tell you which ssid you are connected to. to find out your dns and all that, i believe ifconfig will tell you that
[04:56] <utfans05> denelius: give me one second
[04:56] <denelius> beginner questions - appreciate the patience
[04:58] <hellodavep> utfans05: I already tried ifconfig, but it doesn't give me Gateway or DNS http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653413/
[04:59] <utfans05> hellodavep: route -nee in terminal
[04:59] <utfans05> will give you the gateway
[04:59] <kevinaktiff> Hi how are you i hope you are good i am new in ubuntu
[04:59] <kevinaktiff> and need some help cn anybody help me?
[05:00] <utfans05> hellodavep: actually if you run nm-tool | tail -n8 that will show you all the info you are looking for minus the gateway
[05:01] <yofun> kevinaktiff:  please ask your question
[05:01] <kevinaktiff> I am looking for emulators for neogeo like neogeo rage x to game boy color and to arcade games like win kawaks
[05:01] <kevinaktiff> i know i can run it on wine but i dont want to use nothing who have "win"
[05:02] <hellodavep> Ahh, thanks for your help utfans05! that nm-tool command helped me identify the DNS server and Gateway.
[05:02] <utfans05> hellodavep: you are welcome
[05:03] <guest-GAMR1l> buenas
[05:03] <utfans05> denelius: im still looking to figure out how to find out which dm your running
[05:03] <kevinaktiff> i dont know about the emulators and need you help me to search and install i looked for all google and i dont find nothing
[05:03] <denelius> thank you
[05:04] <hellodavep> kevinaktiff:I don't know if many people will be willing to help you with potentially illegal activities.
[05:06] <savio> kevinaktiff: why you don't want to use wine
[05:06] <kevinaktiff> I want to run neogeo games like neogeo rage X
[05:06] <kevinaktiff> and gameboy color games
[05:06] <kevinaktiff> thats emulators runs on windows but i dont want to use wine
[05:07] <theperfectpunk> Hello
[05:07] <theperfectpunk> it's been 17 hours since no reply
[05:07] <lasers> kevinaktiff: Open a terminal. "apt-cache search neogeo" and "apt-cache search gameboy"
[05:07] <utfans05> denelius: try this cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[05:07] <utfans05> denelius: in a terminal
[05:07] <theperfectpunk> can please anyone look at this thread
[05:07] <theperfectpunk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2143854
[05:08] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: what is the thread?
[05:08] <hufeng> what about?
[05:08] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: my laptop has idt hd audio
[05:08] <denelius> lightdm
[05:08] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: but ubuntu is using Intel HD Audio
[05:08] <utfans05> denelius: is that the one you want to use or do you want to use something else
[05:09] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: so instead of saying "look at this thread" you could have just come up with a more direct question
[05:09] <savio> lasers: I don't think this emulator will available on repository as this is windows base I guess
[05:09] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: if it says "Intel HD Audio" in the sound settings, then that's what you have
[05:09] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: actually u might not be able to help me apparently
[05:09] <denelius> utfans05 - thank you, i am quite happy with that one  - do i need to be concerned that i may have gdm installed but not in use?
[05:09] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: I don't know what the problem is, because you haven't actually said what it is yet
[05:10] <utfans05> denelius: you can run a sudo apt-get purge gdm and that should get rid of the other one
[05:10] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: Ubuntu is using intel hd audio instead of idt audio
[05:10] <denelius> is that best practice? or recommended at least?
[05:10] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: do you have two sound cards?
[05:11] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: well one is the AMD HDMI audio and other is IDT HD Audio
[05:11] <savio> gordonjcp: I think blacklisting the Intel sound card will help
[05:11] <kevinaktiff> it says i found that emulator but dont have  graphical interface
[05:11] <kevinaktiff> mednafen
[05:11] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: and which do you want to use?
[05:11] <utfans05> denelius: i would recommend it just incase something happens you wont have to fool around with trying to find the culprit, its one less thing youll have to look into
[05:11] <booky> Once I set up an MTA for email, is their a gui program available to view email?
[05:12] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: i want to use IDT HD Audio
[05:12] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: but ubuntu uses the wrong driver for it
[05:12] <utfans05> booky: you can use thunderbird
[05:12] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: it shows up as intel hd audio
[05:12] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: Intel uses the correct driver for whatever chip you have
[05:12] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: there are only about four different types of sound card in the world
[05:12] <utfans05> booky: its built into ubuntu from launch, if you look in the top right hand corner there is a mail icon, if you click on it, it will guide you through the setup
[05:12] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: i am running an AMD chipset
[05:12] <booky> utfans05: So, could I just get with with just an MTA and thunderbird?
[05:13] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: does the sound work?
[05:13] <utfans05> booky: i do believe so
[05:13] <denelius> that was my thinking - thank you for the help utfans05, i think i am in good shape re dms - i will no doubt be back soon
[05:13] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: yes but the sound in windows 8 is far better
[05:13] <utfans05> denelius: if you have any other questions just come on back.
[05:13] <kevinaktiff> ?
[05:14] <booky> utfans05: I know there are spam filters and virus filters, and programs which allow me to access my mail from anywere on the web, but I'm only doing this for my website.
[05:14] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: "better" in what way?
[05:14] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: i heard somewhere that some configurations options in pavucontrol will appear if one installs the correct drivers
[05:14] <booky> The users would just be me.
[05:14] <utfans05> booky:  you should be able to get to it from thunderbird
[05:15] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: First is the Volume leveling
[05:15] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: there's only a couple of different drivers, because there's only a couple of different sound cards
[05:15] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: i just need the volume leveling and surround options in pavucontrol
[05:16] <booky> utfans05: thanks, I'll give it a try.
[05:16] <utfans05> booky: if you have any other issues please let us know and we will try to walk you through it
[05:17] <booky> utfans05: yes, I'll be giving it a try soon, I've always wanted control over my own email
[05:17] <kevinaktiff> a graphical interface to mednafen
[05:17] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: this guy here got it to work https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/201248
[05:20] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: can u help me?
[05:20] <theperfectpunk> pleasee
[05:21] <utfans05> !beg | theperfectpunk
[05:21] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: I don't have that chipset and I don't use surround sound
[05:21] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: could you please tell me how can i blacklist the current driver?
[05:21] <savio> theperfectpunk: ubuntu identified your sound driver and it load other as codec
[05:22] <theperfectpunk> savio: is there anyway to get dolby advanced audio in ubuntu?
[05:22] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: if you blacklist the driver, it won't load *any* driver for that device
[05:22] <gordonjcp> well, unless you add another one
[05:24] <savio> theperfectpunk:  there should be let's see till then keep patients
[05:25] <theperfectpunk> savio: my notebook speakers are dolby advanced audio v2 certified, and the sound kinda sucks in ubuntu as compared to windows 8. So i wanted to find out ways to imporove it :-)
[05:26] <savio> theperfectpunk: we got you buddy let see if someone has solution he will get back to you I'm also trying let see
[05:27] <jnhghy> Hi, I have an mysql table (for logging ) that had about 130k rows and 13.3 GB size, I reduced the row number to 7k and now the table shows 13.3 GB size and 13.1 GB Overhead. I runed optimize table on that table and the command has now about 14 hours since it's running. Is there anything else I can do to fix the table? or to get ride of the unwanted size?
[05:28] <gordonjcp> jnhghy: leave optimise running
[05:31] <jnhghy> gordonjcp: hmmmm... not quite what I was hoping to hear.... the server has it's memory at 100% and I don't want to block it anymore, but I assume this is the only solution right?
[05:34] <gordonjcp> jnhghy: you could try dumping out the rows you want, then destroying and recreating the database
[05:34] <gordonjcp> jnhghy: sounds a bit like living dangerously though ;-)
[05:34] <jnhghy> gordonjcp: got it, thanks
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a gui syntax colour highlight text editor by default
[05:36] <ChogyDan> lotuspsychje: is gedit not good enough?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> ChogyDan: i found cobalt blue theme but, how can i sort the txt in colours?
[05:38] <ChogyDan> lotuspsychje: im sorry, i don't understand
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> ChogyDan: im looking for an editor to sort text into colours, for easy debug reading syslog example
[05:39] <Morph4me> lotuspsychje: why don't you use vim-gtk ? sudo apt-get install vim-gtk
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: lemme try that1 tnx
[05:40] <ChogyDan> lotuspsychje: in gedit, go to View > Highlight Mode
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: thats what i needed tnx!!
[05:41] <Morph4me> lotuspsychje: to use it inside of terminal eg  type > vim /var/log/syslog  to view it outside of terminal > type gvim /var/log/syslog
[05:45] <Licks> Wow
[05:45] <xianree> Hello
[05:45] <Licks> So, I managed to slipstream a rootkit in the latest ubuntu update.
[05:45] <Licks> Has anyone noticed this yet?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: tnx mate got it from terminal, great colour look now
[05:46] <hsn> is there software for data sync like dropbox which can i install on own server?
[05:46] <Morph4me> yw
[05:47] <xianree> Hmm whats the latest version of ubuntu
[05:48] <xianree> Hello
[05:49] <utfans05> i believe its 13.04
[05:49] <xianree> Oh whats it called
[05:49] <utfans05> not sure
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> !raring
[05:50] <utfans05> !ubuntu
[05:50] <utfans05> thanks wilee-nilee
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[05:50] <xianree> Cool
[05:51] <xianree> Whats the difference betweeb kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:51] <utfans05> !kubuntu
[05:51] <hsn> !lubuntu
[05:51] <hsn> !arm
[05:52] <xianree> !kubuntu
[05:52] <xianree> So lubuntu is more lightweight
[05:52] <utfans05> xianree: correct
[05:53] <xianree> Thanks.. I know what to download for my old netbook
[05:53] <utfans05> xianree: im running crunch bang on my netbook and it runs really good. you might want to give it a look too
[05:54] <utfans05> just a recommendation
[05:55] <quick-> hi i installed gnome3.9 but it wasnt working to i unistalled it and now i dont have acces to GUI . NO unity or gnome . Tried reinstalling but its of no use . Please help
[05:55] <utfans05> quick-: tried reinstalling what?
[05:56] <quick-> utfans05:  gnome and unity both
[05:57] <utfans05> quick-: so your not even getting a login screen, just the shell login?
[05:57] <quick-> utfans05:  ya tty1  no login screen
[05:57] <utfans05> quick-: hrm...
[05:58] <quick-> utfans05:  Any idea now to fix it . I am using 12.04 LTS
[05:58] <utfans05> quick-: looking now.
[05:59] <utfans05> quick-:  have you tried starting x manually and seeing what it says?
[05:59] <quick-> utfans05:pls tell me ,  How can i do it ?
[06:00] <aitrom> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[06:00] <aitrom> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.pulse-eight.net_ubuntu_dists_precise_stable_binary-amd64_Packages
[06:00] <utfans05> quick-: go ahead and log in to that prompt and then type startx
[06:00] <aitrom> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[06:00] <utfans05> quick-:  see if it will load that way.
[06:00] <aitrom> getting this error while installing any package
[06:00] <aitrom> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[06:01] <WiCkEd> can anyone help me better understand how to use the Terminal? I'm new to Linux in general and am having some trouble understanding some of the forums designed to help me with things
[06:01] <utfans05> aitrom: when was the last time you did an apt-get update and upgrade?
[06:01] <quick-> utfans05: oh i tried that , tells failed to load session gnome .
[06:01] <utfans05> WiCkEd: try this http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/linuxcommand/TLCL/09.12/TLCL-09.12.pdf
[06:02] <utfans05> quick do a vim /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log and see where the error is.
[06:02] <WiCkEd> utfans05: thank you
[06:02] <gordonjcp> WiCkEd: you type stuff in and sometimes things happen
[06:02] <utfans05> quick-: sorry thats the wrong folder. hang on one sec
[06:03] <gordonjcp> WiCkEd: beyond that it's hard to be more specific, without knowing what you want to do
[06:03] <WiCkEd> gordonjcp: yeah I got that part but am generally unfamiliar with the command form
[06:03] <jnhghy> gordonjcp: Optimize table fixed the issue after running 16h, thanks for your time.
[06:03] <utfans05> quick-: that should be vim /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:06] <aitrom> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[06:06] <aitrom> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy-updates_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages
[06:06] <aitrom> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.           cannot install packages please help
[06:06] <quick-> utfans05: checking
[06:07] <aitrom> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header  E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy-updates_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages     E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.       cannot install packages please help
[06:08] <quick-> utfans05: Check the Xorg loag at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653549/
[06:08] <quick-> utfans05: Check the Xorg log at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653549/. I coudnt figure out any errors.
[06:10] <csharpguy> hello
[06:10] <quick-> csharpguy:  hi :)
[06:10] <csharpguy> quick-: hey!
[06:13] <quick-> utfans05: Thanks you . I got to go man :)
[06:17] <richcollins> what do I do for this? Failed to fetch http://us-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mesa/libglapi-mesa_8.0.4-0ubuntu0.3_amd64.deb: 403  Forbidden
[06:18] <netlar> My external hard drive is gives me a problem with booting Ubuntu 13.04.  The external HD is formated with msdos.  When the HD is attached it takes around 2 1/2 min to boot, when not attached it takes only 25 seconds.  I am not sure what the problem is.
[06:19] <utfans05> richcollins: was this during an apt-get update or install?
[06:19] <richcollins> utfans05: yeah during aptitude install
[06:19] <netlar> This is the dmesg log I get when the HD is attached http://paste.ubuntu.com/5652231/
[06:19] <richcollins> utfans05: bad sources?
[06:20] <richcollins> utfans05: looks like apt-get update fixed it
[06:21] <utfans05> richcollins: do a sudo apt-get update, then upgrade, then try to do the install
[06:21] <utfans05> richcollins: you may have old sources
[06:21] <utfans05> richcollins: make sure you do that apt-get update
[06:22] <utfans05> richcollins: i ment upgrade
[06:22] <richcollins> cool thanks doing that now
[06:22] <Makke> how to remove lwm with device lock pass? i got pass...... luke something didnt fix
[06:24] <utfans05> netlar: do you mean that the external is formatted in ntfs?
[06:24] <netlar> utfans05: yes sorry
[06:25] <utfans05> netlar: im doing some research now give me a few
[06:25] <netlar> utfans05: thank you so much
[06:28] <bhuey> I'm getting connection refused for port 3632 on this 13.04 machine
[06:28] <utfans05> netlar: im not finding anything with a google search and I havent tried to boot with an external drive hooked up. so I'm unsure of the issue
[06:28] <bhuey> What would be causing this ?
[06:28] <utfans05> bhuey: try doing an iptables -l and see if that port is closed
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> netlar, Make sure it is not above the internal in the bios, if you have windows source keep it defragged, and check the fstab if you are autobooting it.
[06:29] <utfans05> im sorry should be -L
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> auto mounting rather
[06:30] <netlar> wilee-nilee: ah, so the problem may be in the boot sequence?
[06:30] <wilee-nilee> netlar, Can be yeah, make sure the nternal HD is read first
[06:30] <netlar> ok
[06:32] <bhuey> utfans05: ok
[06:33] <Guest45806> wifi is not turning on in ubuntu 12.10
[06:34] <bhuey> utfans05: unsure as to what I'm looking at
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> Guest45806, with lspci in the terminal find the wifi info, and identify it.
[06:34] <bluelf1> Hey Guy I installed Ubuntu 13.02, When I boot in ubuntu I see lot of colors and a corrupted screen, how do I debug?
[06:34] <liazine> salut
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | bluelf1
[06:36] <live> hey
[06:36] <Guest35364> any one here
[06:36] <Guest35364> yo bro
[06:36] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: thanks looking into it
[06:37] <mkeirn89> Hello. Is there a way to just reset my mouse? My issue is that sometimes when I bog down my PC too much my mouse will cease to move around, it will still click on whatever is in front of it and right click to pull up a small menu but I can't move it to where I like. The problem can be solved by rebooting my PC but that's annoying, is it possible to just reboot my mouse?
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Guest35364: There are always people in this channel. Try asking your actual question and if anyone can answer, they will.
[06:37] <liazine> ya pas des français ici
[06:37] <wilee-nilee> mkeirn89, Is the computer swapping?
[06:37] <mkeirn89> !french
[06:38] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: Does unpluggin and re-inserting the mouse help?
[06:38] <Guest35364> any one using sparky Linux O/S ???
[06:38] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: And do you see any error messages in dmesg when this happens?
[06:38] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U It's a laptop, so I'm not sure. Using the keyboard function to turn the mousepad off and on does not help. Is dmesg a terminal command? I'm not super computer savvy, I'm afraid.
[06:39] <Jordan_U> Guest35364: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. For other distributions try their respective channels, or ##linux.
[06:39] <mkeirn89> wilee-nilee I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean :)
[06:39] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: Yes, "dmesg" is a terminal command that prints messages from the kernel (a lot of output).
[06:40] <Prock> need help, my browser has no sound but openarena does
[06:40] <MACJONES> whats up what is ur ubuntu q's
[06:41] <Prock> i need to get my sound working for all applications
[06:41] <liazine> je suis nouveau sur linux
[06:41] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U Well, I found the lots of output! I'm not sure how to read any of it, though, and I'm not sure how to scroll up and down either, unfortunately. (lacking mouse function right now and I haven't figured out my keyboard command for scrolling in my terminal
[06:41] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: I am not sure but , when I tried to edit grub 2 last time I think I saw nomodeset already, I will check again but if it is there what else should I look into ?
[06:41] <Jordan_U> !fr | liazine
[06:42] <wilee-nilee> bluelf1, nomodeset would not be there unless you put it there, this s a low graphic boot to get in and update, upgrade and check for drivers.
[06:43] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U The terminal I'm using is Konsole, if that helps at all.
[06:44] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: You can run "dmesg | less" to get a scrollable output. You can also run "dmesg | pastebinit" to post the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com, and then you can post the link to the output here for us to look at.
[06:44] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: OK, I have to reboot, I will tell you what happened. Thanks for help
[06:44] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: Pess the 'q' key to quit less.
[06:44] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U Is there anything I should worry about as far as information that could make me vulnerable in that error log?
[06:45] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: No.
[06:46] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U I don't have pastebinit installed and I don't have sudo access due to another issue :/
[06:47] <mkeirn89> I think I can find another way around it, sec...
[06:48] <Mrokii> Hello. How can I find and reclaim "lost" space on an HD? I had problems with one HD and deleted a backup-image from it (with the size of about 1 TB). Then I had to run fsck on it, which corrected problems... But now it seems the 1 TB are still claimed but the file is gone.
[06:48] <utfans05> Mrokii: you can try to use gparted on it and reformat that partition if there is no data that you want to keep on it
[06:48] <Jordan_U> Mrokii: Does this filesystem contain your root filesystem?
[06:49] <wilee-nilee> Mrokii, Is there a hidden trash?
[06:49] <Mrokii> utfans05: There is data on it and I need to use this HD to backup things.
[06:49] <Mrokii> Jordan_U: No, it's a backup-disk. It just contains data.
[06:49] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U Okay, I'm installing pastebinit
[06:50] <Mrokii> wilee-nilee: I'm not sure what you mean by hidden. There's a folder named ".Trash-1000", but it's only about 9.5 GB big.
[06:51] <subthalamus> wow, what happened with spambots?
[06:51] <Jordan_U> Mrokii: OK, then a "du -h /path/to/mountpoint" likely won't take too long (because there probably aren't too many files), to see if that matches close to the amount of used space that "df -h" reports for the FS>
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> Mrokii, A nffs, it can have a system volume information and recycle.bin folder
[06:52] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U On the brightside, I'm very good at navigating with just a keyboard now.
[06:52] <Prock> how can i make my sound system for all users
[06:53] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653616
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: so nice that it highlights errors too! tnx again for the vim tip
[06:55] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: Do you know if suspend works reliably on this machine?
[06:55] <Morph4me> lotuspsychje : anytime
[06:56] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean :(
[06:56] <Mrokii>  wilee-nilee I don't see a cycle.bin folder
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: http://oi42.tinypic.com/2vt8hvq.jpg
[06:57] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: Have you tried to "sleep" this machine before?
[06:57] <Morph4me> nice
[06:57] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U No but shall I give it a whirl?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: how does it know to pick up errors higlight?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: Yes. Just be aware that your computer may or may not fail to resume, so close any apps with important files open first.
[06:59] <Morph4me> well someone was thinking that designed it :P
[06:59] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U Thank you so much for all your help.
[06:59] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: (If it fails to resume you'll need to reboot the machine)
[06:59] <Mrokii> Jordan_U: What should I look for? There are still a lot of files on that disk and the list doesn't seem to be sorted by size.
[06:59] <Jordan_U> Mrokii: The last line of output should be a grant total.
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: you know colortail too?
[07:00] <Morph4me> nope
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> !info colortail | Morph4me
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Morph4me: Did the command finish and return you to a prompt?
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: i use it to colortail -f /var/log/syslog.1 in realtime, pretty nice aswell
[07:01] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U Mouse works, system rebooted just fine.
[07:01] <Mrokii> Jordan_U: Maybe I've found it. The second to last line says that the folder "lost+found" is 990G big.
[07:01] <Morph4me> ok  gotcha you have been tweaking lol
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: now my packages are complete tnx to you :p
[07:02] <Morph4me> yw , enjoy
[07:02] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U Well, not rebooted but returned from suspend. And that's much faster then rebooting! Thanks.
[07:04] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: i added nomodeset and it booted to a blank screen
[07:04] <kulica> hi i think i am having isue  i have laptop whit i5 and nvidia 525m and i think it is having some problems like i see some flikering and wierd screens what to do
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> bluelf1, Not sure the graphic area is not my best, any history leading to this will help the channel.
[07:05] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: is there a way to install and use old kernel ?
[07:06] <wilee-nilee> bluelf1, Can you choose any from the grub menu?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: You're welcome. Though hopefully you can find a real solution rather than just a work around. Could you please file a bug report?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> !bug | mkeirn89
[07:06] <netlar> Ok, I think I screwed things up, I am getting the login screen but it is frozen, how can I fix that?
[07:07] <bluelf1> It has no old kernel listed I did a fresh ubuntu 13.02 install, I want to try with old kernels cause they used to work
[07:07] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U I could file like seven bug reports :) My sound doesn't work, I can't log into my Sudo User, my computer screen goes dark sometimes and takes a while to work.. heh.
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> netlar: describe frozen
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> bluelf1, Sounds like a graphic driver needed, identify this hardware, details are helpful.
[07:08] <netlar> It will boot up and get to the login screen and the keyboard or mouse will not work, the screen is frozen
[07:08] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: is there a command to help me find this driver ?
[07:09] <wilee-nilee> bluelf1, lspci in the cli will identify numerous hardwares.
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> netlar: did you do a clean install or upgrade?
[07:09] <netlar> it is a clean install and was working before
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> netlar: working on previous ubuntu?
[07:09] <kulica> somone help me i have wierd grafick on my laptop toshiba l755-1c3 i have i5 cpu and 525m gpu
[07:10] <netlar> on this ubuntu 13.04
[07:10] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: can you tell me how to boot to a cli ?
[07:10] <savagecroc> does anyone know what kworker is?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> netlar: can you press f1 on the boot procedure to see whats happening?
[07:10] <netlar> lotuspsychje: I can try , hold on
[07:11] <savagecroc> i've got a process that's using up all of the CPU on our system
[07:11] <savagecroc> it's called kworker
[07:11] <Elderspy> savagecroc: Check this out, I think it's what you're looking for. http://goo.gl/DrXx0
[07:11] <utfans05> !kworker
[07:11] <Cub2> hmm
[07:12] <netlar> lotuspsychje: No, f1 does not do anything
[07:12] <netlar> lotuspsychje: how can I get the grub menu?
[07:12] <savagecroc> hmmmm reboot?
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> netlar: hold shift after post boot
[07:13] <netlar> ok
[07:13] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: It detects the graphic card I guess, it says VGA compatibe controller ATI RV710/M92 obility Radeon 4530/4570/545v
[07:14] <netlar> lotuspsychje: ok I am in the grub menu
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> netlar: you can try a safe mode
[07:14] <netlar> lotuspsychje: i went into recovery mode
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> bluelf1, This thread might be helpful, again this is not my area really. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2141224
[07:15] <savagecroc> can someone explain to me what the kworker actually is?
[07:15] <netlar> lotuspsychje: I am in the recovery menu now
[07:16] <Elderspy> savageroc
[07:17] <savagecroc> Elderspy: i read the link.. i'm still confused ""kworker" is a placeholder process for kernel worker threads"
[07:17] <netlar> lotuspsychje: can I try to fix it from the menu?
[07:18] <savagecroc> kernel worker threads that do what?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> netlar: you can try a safe boot or recovery
[07:18] <netlar> lotuspsychje: i am in the recovery menu
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> netlar: it will lead to to a grafix card test
[07:18] <savagecroc> how can if ind out what these kworker threads are actually doing
[07:19] <Ben65> savagecroc: have you googled "kworker" it explains it in the first link
[07:20] <savagecroc> Ben65: of course
[07:20] <savagecroc> This is a production server though.. it only runs a few services
[07:23] <netlar> lotuspsychje: that appeared to fix my problem
[07:24] <savagecroc> rebooting seems to have fixed the kworker issue :/ it really worries me as to what caused it.. it's never happened perviously
[07:24] <netlar> I do have a related question, If the system shuts down improperly does it need to go into recovery mode?
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> netlar: you might wanna check the logs too see what the problem was
[07:25] <netlar> ok
[07:29] <netlar> lotuspsychje: this all started because when I attach an external hard drive, it makes the boot up almost 3 min long
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> netlar: what brand and how many gig?
[07:30] <netlar> iomega and 350 gb
[07:30] <deepak> how to intall video calling software
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> netlar: you can run a test on the drive maybe, with testdisk or default disk tools on ubuntu
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> deepak: skype?
[07:31] <deepak> how
[07:31] <deepak> ?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | netlar
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> deepak: goto skype website and download/install the .deb file
[07:32] <bazhang> !info skype partner | deepak
[07:32] <bazhang> deepak install from repos, not the website   <----- lotuspsychje
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> bazhang: ah tnx for that partner trigger
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> bazhang: users need to enable partners source right if they wanna install?
[07:34] <netlar> lotuspsychje: it is strange how it would mess up with the boot
[07:34] <bazhang> lotuspsychje, thats correct
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> netlar: i had same trouble with a 1TB wd long boot time
[07:35] <netlar> lotuspsychje: find a solution?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> netlar: i formatted the 2nd 1tb after i installed ubuntu on main drive
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> netlar: but mine was attached sata, not external usb
[07:36] <netlar> lotuspsychje: I was thinking of reformatting it
[07:36] <netlar> it is in nfts format now
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> netlar: i think that would be a good idea, maybe do a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 and plug in the drive
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> netlar: see what errors you might get on the drive when you attach
[07:38] <netlar> lotuspsychje: you mean during the boot process?
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> netlar: no you can do it right now if you want
[07:38] <netlar> ok
[07:41] <netlar> sorry still a noob, not sure how to run that command, it tells me no such file
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> netlar: browse to /var/log and type ls
[07:43] <netlar> done
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> netlar: maybe its syslog
[07:43] <cjae> http://askubuntu.com/questions/254479/make-firefox-only-use-gtk-theme-on-browser-chrome-but-ignore-on-websites                       super win
[07:43] <netlar> oh ok, yes i have a syslog
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> netlar: ok then tail -f /var/log/syslog
[07:43] <netlar> before i plug in the external drive?
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> netlar: that will grab realtime stuff on your system, then plugin your hd yes
[07:44] <helpame> does someone have l755-1c3 toshiba laptop i am having graphic problems i think it hes somthing to do whit having i5 and 525m gpu
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> helpame: what kind of graphic problems?
[07:44] <netlar> ok
[07:45] <helpame> lotuspsychje:  like some wierd flikering white screens for 1-2 secs and somtime it is kina blury
[07:45] <netlar> lotuspsychje: ok, did it, what am I looking for?
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> netlar: if you hd has issues or problem, it will show some errors
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> netlar: you might wanna try to copy some files on it
[07:46] <netlar> ok
[07:47] <BadElvis> hi ubunut channel
[07:47] <helpame> any help me?
[07:47] <BadElvis> whats ur problem?
[07:48] <helpame> graphic iz crazy
[07:49] <helpame> i5 and 525m nvidia
[07:49] <netlar> lotuspsychje: do not see any errors
[07:49] <helpame> on hdmi
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> netlar: well maybe scan the drive with testdisk, or default disk tools on ubuntu
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> netlar: or browse syslog to see previous hd errors
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> netlar: maybe some bad sectors on your hd
[07:51] <BadElvis> helpame: has it always been like that?
[07:51] <netlar> lotuspsychje: there was an airflow temp error on the disk, just says it failed in the past
[07:53] <netlar> lotuspsychje: maybe I should just reformat
[07:53] <helpame> i dont know on win7 it was normal  but my laptop felt and i broke lcd and hard died so i try booting only live usb i have i will try leater whit win7 live usb but  i need to download it first
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> netlar: yeah good idea, if you use the hd for ubuntu try ext2
[07:54] <netlar> lotuspsychje: I am in the disk utility and there are only two options
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> netlar: try smart data and test
[07:55] <netlar> 'Compatiable with all systems and devices (MBR/DOS)' and 'Compatiple with modern systems (GPT)'
[07:56] <netlar> lotuspsychje: Everything says it is ok, no errors
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> netlar: well you could mess with bios settings too, not booting other usb drives maybe
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> netlar: then try a reboot again with same drive attached
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> netlar: you know where the logs are now to check right :p
[07:58] <netlar> lotuspsychje: yes that is ok too, only boots from dvd drive and hard drive
[07:58] <netlar> Yes
[07:58] <netlar> you mean the boot logs?
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> netlar: or syslog
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> netlar: i would reformat the drive and see if the future brings more new errors
[07:59] <netlar> lotuspsychje: yes , so pick the the compatible with modern systems option?
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> netlar: if you need the hd for windows systems too yes, if only for your ubuntu choose ext2
[08:00] <netlar> ext2 is not an option in the disk utility
[08:00] <Ben65> why not ext4
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> yeah ext4 is what i meant
[08:01] <paulens> hello
[08:03] <paulens> is it possible to give the boot priority to windows instead of grub2? i want it to first boot to windows bootloader and then let me select which OS i want... with grub, dual booting is an awful pain in the ass
[08:03] <Ben65> you can select with grub
[08:04] <netlar> lotuspsychje: funny it will not let me reformat the disk
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> netlar: did you unmount the drive
[08:04] <paulens> Ben65: 1. when i select with grub, i need to select it 2nd time in windows bootloader (i have 2 versions of windows installed)
[08:04] <kerf> paulens, you want windows instead of grub2?
[08:04] <netlar> nope
[08:04] <paulens> yes, kerf
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> netlar: unmount hd first then format
[08:05] <Ben65> paulens: doesn't sound that hard
[08:05] <paulens> kerf: i want the windows boot loader, which lets you select OS
[08:05] <paulens> Ben65: 2. with grub, i need to select it EACH TIME i boot.
[08:06] <kerf> paulens, oh, I had made windows selected by default when booted, that sounds like something you could set in the grub conf file, though I am not experienced enough to solve that.
[08:06] <paulens> Ben65: with windows boot loader you can select the default OS without much effort
[08:06] <Ben65> paulens: you can make whatever you want the default in grub too
[08:06] <paulens> Ben65: that's too complicated for me xP
[08:06] <Ben65> yeah, if you give up before you try
[08:06] <paulens> Ben65: and i want to enjoy my 9 second boot into windows again... grub f***s that up..
[08:07] <kerf> paulens, so you boot, and then you want to boot again?
[08:07] <paulens> Ben65: i don't want grub. what's the problem? it's my personal choice.. i just asked..
[08:07] <Ben65> but you need grub for ubuntu to work
[08:07] <kerf> This ^
[08:07] <bazhang> paulens, no cursing here
[08:07] <paulens> Ben65: I DON'T WANT TO REMOVE IT
[08:07] <Ben65> chill
[08:07] <paulens> bazhang: is ******************* cursing? didn't know that...
[08:07] <bazhang> paulens, lose the caps as well
[08:07] <bazhang> paulens, Yes
[08:08] <lolgnu> bazhang: If you dont like my **** then you can **** my ****! :P
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> oO
[08:08] <paulens> kerf: i want to boot straight to windows boot loader and then select grub as one of the options
[08:08] <Ben65> why not just have grub load windows by default?
[08:08] <paulens> kerf: there should be a way to add grub to MBR...
[08:08] <kerf> I believe, now that you have grub, you no longer have windows boot loader.
[08:08] <paulens> Ben65: it's slow.
[08:09] <Ben65> set a 0 timeout
[08:09] <kerf> You can also set windows as default
[08:09] <paulens> kerf: i still have windows boot loader. when i select windows from grub, it boots into windows bootloader
[08:10] <kerf> paulens, welp, that's out of my expience.
[08:10] <paulens> Ben65: that was a REALLY dumb answer. i'm trying to make dual boot less effortful here, and you suggest 0 timeout... is it even POSSIBLE to dual boot with that?....
[08:10] <Ben65> have fun figuring it out
[08:10] <bazhang> paulens, yes it is.
[08:10] <Ben65> i don't need to be called dumb
[08:11] <Benkinooby> hi, i am using wondershaper (it's a bandwidth-limiter) but i need sudo to activate it. how and I make it available for my "normal" user?
[08:11] <bazhang> paulens, you want a windows solution; Grub is what Ubuntu offers. try ##windows and ask about chainloading
[08:11] <kerf> so, grub jumps past your windows bootloader and to a windows OS that you don't want to run, when "windows" is selected?
[08:11] <paulens> bazhang: and i will need to configure something each time i want to restart into windows..
[08:11] <bazhang> paulens, what you want is much more of a n effort and will Not be quicker
[08:11] <paulens> kerf: no i DO want to run windows boot loader
[08:12] <paulens> kerf: i want to completely skip grub, BUT, i need to add an option for it in the windows bootloader
[08:12] <bazhang> paulens, ask for help with that in ##windows , and yes it is possible, but not what we support here, thanks
[08:12] <Benkinooby> paulens: go to ##windows, beucase this is related to windows boot loader
[08:12] <paulens> bazhang: no, i want to give the windows boot loader the priority, and i'm 100% sure that it will boot windows more quickly..
[08:12] <bazhang> paulens, /join ##windows
[08:12] <Benkinooby> paulens: it will not
[08:13] <paulens> Benkinooby: it's related to grub, because i need to know where the grub files are lkocated
[08:13] <kerf> paulens, I disagree with grub being slower
[08:13] <paulens> kerf: dude, i mean it boots windows much slower....
[08:13] <Benkinooby> paulens: if you use grub, you will get grub->loads windows boot loader -> loads windows
[08:13] <bazhang> !grub2 | paulens then have a read
[08:13] <Benkinooby> paulens: so grub will chainload the windows loader
[08:14] <paulens> Benkinooby: if i use windows boot loader, i will get windows boot loader -> load windows
[08:14] <paulens> isn't that faster?
[08:14] <bazhang> paulens, lets not stop support here for an offtopic debate about which is "quicker"
[08:14] <kerf> Good point, bazhang
[08:14] <Benkinooby> paulens: jest, but not much and it is easier and safer to include windows to grub than vice versaq
[08:14] <paulens> agreed.
[08:14] <Benkinooby> *versa
[08:14] <bazhang> paulens, please read the grub2 links above and /join ##windows
[08:14] <bazhang> Benkinooby, lets get back to support please
[08:15] <paulens> bazhang: but you didn't answer, where are grub files located on my hard drive? i need to know that to add MBR...
[08:15] <bazhang> paulens, read the links I just gave you
[08:15] <Benkinooby> hi, i am using wondershaper (it's a bandwidth-limiter) but i need sudo to activate it. how and I make it available for my "normal" user?
[08:16] <paulens> bazhang: i don't think that answers my question...
[08:16] <bazhang> Benkinooby, is that similar to trickle? was it always needing sudo?
[08:16] <Benkinooby> bazhang: yes
[08:16] <chaotix> hello...  i am using ubuntu 12.10, and just want to change the color of highlighted things from orange to blue...  it used to be a lot easier,  but it is a bit more complicated now...  i think it is in the gtkrc file inside of the GTK2 folder of the theme you are using, could someone confirm that?  and maybe does someone know quite what needs to be changed in the gtkrc file(if that is it)?
[08:16] <bazhang> !info trickle
[08:16] <bazhang> ubottu, lag
[08:18] <Benkinooby> bazhang: i know about trickle - din'T know it was user-space... but afaik wondershaper as a lot more sophisticated and delivers "better" results (didn't test it though)
[08:18] <bazhang> Benkinooby, sorry , I was not aware that wondershaper needed sudo, let me check the manual for a moment
[08:20] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man8/wondershaper.8.html  seems it a script Benkinooby
[08:20] <bazhang> +s
[08:21] <Benkinooby> bazhang: yes i read that too... so i just go chmod on it?
[08:21] <chaotix> the appearence properties of gnome2 era ubuntu had a great configuration for customizing themes...  i wish with all my heart that will come back some day...  i am picking through gtkrc files with a fine tooth comb just to try to change the highlight color from orange to blue
[08:21] <chaotix> is there an easier way to do this??
[08:22] <Benkinooby> bazhang: i'd like to standard/recommended procedure to make sudo stuff non-sudo available... too often i used "workarounds" that made things worse :P
[08:22] <bazhang> Benkinooby, I'm wary about giving advice here as I have zero experience with this, perhaps someone else here and/or askubuntu.com ; apologies
[08:22] <bazhang> chaotix, isnt that in system setting now?
[08:22] <bazhang> augh system settings
[08:22] <chaotix> i will look
[08:23] <chaotix> bazhang, where in system settings?
[08:24] <chaotix> under appearance you can change theme, but not cuztomize one aspect of a theme such as the highlight color
[08:24] <chaotix> :(
[08:25] <kerf> Hello, I am using byobu, and I can't some of my keybindings are said to be "* used by X11*" and any complex keybindings (other than one key) do not work. What do I have to do to have byobu functional?  I am running Ubuntu server 12.04.
[08:25] <bazhang> chaotix, that has changed a lot since 12.10. are you on unity or gnome-shell; perhaps that has been outsourced to unity-tweak-tool or gnome-tweak-tool, let me check
[08:25] <paulens> so does anyone know where are grub files located?
[08:25] <bazhang> paulens, the grub2 links say very clearly
[08:26] <paulens> bazhang: no
[08:26] <bazhang> !grub2 | paulens have a read again
[08:26] <chaotix> bazhang, unity
[08:26] <chaotix> thanks, bazhang
[08:26] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2    <----- paulens this one in particular
[08:26] <chaotix> im on 12.10
[08:27] <bazhang> chaotix, I'll check in gnome-tweak-tool now, for 12.10 I dont know if there is a unity -tweak-tool yet
[08:27] <paulens> bazhang: those links are not what i need. i don't want to upgrade grub, i don't want to know how one grub is better than another, i just want to know the location of its files
[08:27] <bazhang> !find tweak quantal
[08:27] <paulens> bazhang: and which file is used to boot.
[08:29] <kerf> Hello, I am using byobu, and I can't some of my keybindings are said to be "* used by X11*" and any complex keybindings (other than one key) do not work. What do I have to do to have byobu functional?  I am running Ubuntu server 12.04.
[08:29] <cjae> !restricted-extras
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> kerf  server with a GUI?
[08:30] <Hexagonite> Hey, can anyone help me with Gnome Shell?
[08:30] <cjae> !info restricted-extras
[08:30] <kerf> MonkeyDust, text only :)
[08:30] <Aaruni> paulens: read here : http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[08:30] <cjae> is java included in restricted extras?
[08:30] <Hexagonite> Gnome Shell on Ubuntu help, anyone?
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> !ask | Hexagonite
[08:31] <bazhang> cjae, (its ure)
[08:31] <Hexagonite> How do I force software rendering on Gnome Shell?
[08:31] <kerf> !patience
[08:32] <cjae> bazhang: jre?
[08:32] <bazhang> !ure
[08:32] <bazhang> cjae, ^
[08:33] <Benkinooby> bazhang: thank you for your help though :)
[08:34] <Benkinooby> bazhang: if you install wondershaper, it will come with a README file <- very interesting lecture if you're in that kind of stuff :D
[08:34] <Mudslide> im kinda new to 13 why is my monitor an unkown device that cant go over 1024x768
[08:34] <bazhang> Benkinooby, nice catch, thanks
[08:34] <cjae> bazhang: not sure what you mean still
[08:34] <bazhang> !java | cjae have a read please
[08:35] <paulens> should i just copy all /boot folder?
[08:36] <c0lumb> How do I get more info about hardware crashes? It's just reboots itself for no reason without any crash reports.
[08:36] <cjae> bazhang: forget it
[08:36] <Mudslide> ?
[08:38] <Ben65> c0lumb: check the logs. they're located in /var/log
[08:38] <Mudslide> any ideas? im stuck probably just put windows back on it
[08:38] <piroska> sziasztok!
[08:38] <cjae> bazhang: trying to set paramaters to not kill mu ssd prematurely, one of the suggestions is "If you have installed Oracle Java, limit the write actions of the Java plugin: "
[08:38] <c0lumb> Ben65, Which one of them?
[08:39] <c0lumb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653810/
[08:39] <Ben65> c0lumb: syslog, kern, Xorg, dmesg, etc
[08:39] <Benkinooby> cjae: how old is that source
[08:40] <Mudslide> so no help here ehh?
[08:40] <cjae> Benkinooby: what the webpage? prettu new
[08:40] <bazhang> Mudslide, give more details
[08:40] <Ben65> Mudslide: patience young padawan
[08:40] <Benkinooby> cjae: maybe you check in ##hardware - i heard that many ssd are able to cope with heavy fwrite on their own without any OS interaction
[08:40] <cjae> pretty*
[08:40] <bazhang> Mudslide, such minimal info there is no way to give help
[08:40] <bazhang> !details | Mudslide
[08:41] <cjae> Benkinooby: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd#TOC-Avoid-quick-wear:-reduce-write-actions
[08:41] <bazhang> Mudslide, what gpu, what driver, how installed, what version of ubuntu, et cetera
[08:41]  * cjae thinks this would benefit this channel some too
[08:43] <cjae> from page ,  By default, Ubuntu 13.04 uses the I/O scheduler Deadline
[08:43]  * cjae still doesnt know what ure is
[08:43] <cjae> ubuntu restricted extras?
[08:43] <Benkinooby> cjae: do you use firefox?
[08:43] <cjae> yes
[08:44] <Benkinooby> cjae: ok
[08:44] <cjae> Benkinooby: why
[08:44] <Benkinooby> cjae: as you already mentionedn, the scheduler of ubuntu 13 handles it very well
[08:44] <Benkinooby> cjae: what you are talking about orcale java only counts for firefox
[08:46] <Benkinooby> cjae: so what is your original question?
[08:46] <Benkinooby> cjae: because last i saw is that you wanted to install java Oo
[08:46] <cjae> wanted to know if this java jre or the plugin is installed in the restricted extras
[08:47] <cjae> do really pay attention to java too much
[08:47] <loganlee> !ot
[08:47] <cjae> dont*
[08:47] <cjae> um.....#restricted-extras then ?
[08:48] <Benkinooby> cjae: i don't see why you need to know here that jav stuff comes from
[08:48] <Aaruni> cjae: ok, java is installed, from !restricted extras
[08:49] <Benkinooby> cjae: all you need to do is to disbale the cache in firefox
[08:49] <ubuntu> verma
[08:50] <ra-fi> hi i have downloaded a cutecom terminal emulator from internet for at91sam9g35,i had read README file it shows to compile pass cmake by following make and make install,befor i did not use cmake can you tell me how to use that
[08:51] <savio> ra-fi: same as make
[08:52] <savio> !cmake
[08:53] <ra-fi> savio i have try to cross compile,i have used buildroot,with tht how can i pass cmake
[08:53] <Benkinooby> cjae: hm, not so easy to find that control panel Oo
[08:54] <Benkinooby> cjae: maybe jconsole?
[08:56] <cjae> Benkinooby: shouldnt the plugin be addons manager if it was installed?
[08:56] <savio> ra-fi: its ubuntu support channel I don't know anything about buildr
[08:56] <savio> Build root*
[08:56] <Benkinooby> cjae: don't know :P - your guess is as good as mine :D
[08:57] <savio> ra-fi: try asking in buildroot mailing list
[08:57] <cjae> ok
[08:58] <Benkinooby> cjae: aaaaah!
[08:58] <Benkinooby>  he is speaking og the firefox option!
[08:58] <cjae> yes
[08:58] <Benkinooby> cjae: foregt that java console
[08:58] <Benkinooby> domb me :) too many trees to see the forest :D
[08:59] <cjae> I thought they scrapped that
[08:59] <wilee-nilee> java console
[09:00] <cjae> thought I only ever saw on win boxes anyway, but I could be wrong
[09:00] <Benkinooby> cjae: hm, go to advanced
[09:00] <Benkinooby> cjae: and then the network tab
[09:00] <SpartanF32> Hallo!
[09:00] <SpartanF32> After i installed proprietary AMD driver following the procedure as in the Unofficial Ati website, (worked fine for 12.10) i had a lot of kwin crashes so rolled back to driver of the repos. Now, i see some effect as kickoff blur or windows miniature on panel aren't enabled while in the effects configuration setting they're are checked. Does Exist a way to re-enable all as a fresh install or i should install all again?
[09:00] <Benkinooby> cjae: there is stuff that comes close to it
[09:00] <michael87> Hey does anyone know how to set up mupen64? I'm tryying to help my friend set up a nintendo 64 emulator after I gave him linux
[09:00] <Benkinooby> cjae: also you can ask in #firefox (they are int he mozilla network)
[09:01] <Benkinooby> cjae: i think it would be worth the effort since firefox is quite write and cachse-happy :P
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> spartanf32: which release are you using and which gpu do you have?
[09:01] <cjae> Benkinooby: yes
[09:01] <Benkinooby> cjae: e.g currently my firefox has +70MB cached
[09:01] <Sarger001> Michael, install wine and then install project64 normally through the windows installer
[09:01] <Sarger001> project64 is less buggy than mupen64...
[09:02] <cjae> Benkinooby: I set to zero for now and see
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> cjae: you can move browser cache to tempfs if you want. it wipes after reboot and makes browsing faster
[09:02] <Benkinooby> cjae: either zero or you mka eit very big
[09:02] <MonkeyDust> !info zsnes | michael87 try this
[09:02] <Benkinooby> cjae: because if it is big, you don'T have to overwrite stuff
[09:02] <Sarger001> zsnes is SNES
[09:02] <Sarger001> not N64
[09:02] <Benkinooby> cjae: so you have to eraze lesse
[09:02] <cjae> right
[09:02] <Benkinooby> *less
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> michael87: playdeb may have it too. also try searching for a PPA
[09:03] <michael87> Sarger001, project 64 freezes on me :(. It works for the first few minuts but say on mario 64 slows down but a crapton after first painting
[09:03] <Benkinooby> cjae: but i think you'll be happier in #firefox with this if you want to digg deeper
[09:03] <cjae> ActionParsnip: ok thanks ill check it out
[09:03] <Sarger001> Ah
[09:03] <cjae> yes I will thanks
[09:03] <Sarger001> Hmm
[09:03] <Sarger001> try mupen64 through wine
[09:03] <Sarger001> that might work
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> michael87: have you tried different plugins for video etc
[09:04] <bazhang> !enter | Sarger001
[09:04] <Benkinooby> cjae: would be nice if ubuntu would do such settings automatically when it reconginzes a ssd ... als ssd will be more common in futre
[09:04] <Benkinooby> *future
[09:05] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I was actually considering looking up an opengl video plugin for projectg64. Haven't found it yet
[09:05] <Sarger001> Well, i'm going to be back soon after installing another linux distro
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> Sarger001  only ubuntu here
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> michael87: searching online should yield some
[09:06] <bazhang> !info mupen64plus | michael87
[09:06] <bazhang> theres no reason at all for wine in that
[09:06] <michael87> mupen64 on linux is all command line blah!
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> michael87: there are GUIs.....
[09:07] <bazhang> michael87, thats not correct
[09:07] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I installed a gui and it is not working with it. Cant find the library plug or some crap
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> i use Dosbox for old 1990's games
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> michael87: then get the library...
[09:08] <cjae> Benkinooby: im sure it will come, but yes, thats why I wanted to keep in this channel, was looking up about how windows defrag effected ssds, then I occured to me to check for ubuntu as well
[09:08] <cjae> Benkinooby: lots off ppl think its trivial too thou
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> michael87: have you seen this page: https://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/wiki/ThirdPartyPlugins
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> cjae: ext4 doesnt suffer fragmentation like windows does
[09:10] <Church> ActionParsnip: false. it may suffer less, maybe.
[09:10] <MonkeyDust> cjae  defrag is not needed in linux
[09:10] <cjae> ActionParsnip: yes I nose, me loves the *nix fs so much more
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> church: its negligible to the point of insignificance. it does fragment a little
[09:11] <Ben65> depends how you use it. if you fill it to capacity and delete and add files, it will get fragmented
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> church: but the "like windows does" covers that, right?
[09:12] <Benkinooby> cjae: hm, you should also know that ssd use a different store location than they present to you
[09:12] <Benkinooby> cjae: so defraggging on a ssd is pointles
[09:12] <Benkinooby> cjae: no matter what OS
[09:12] <cjae> I have a cctv box that the records for 2 months on ext3 ,  its been running( not uptime) 8 yrs, replaced one hdd, very little issues
[09:13] <Benkinooby> cjae: the point is, that only for spinning hard disk a fragmented file takes more time to read... but a ssd does not care
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> benkinooby: with journalized filesystems, the gains are slim
[09:13] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I have m64py installed. I don't know what it means when it keeps asking  for library input required becuase I set everything else up. Rom source etc
[09:13] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: on ssd or common hdd?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> benkinooby: ssd doesnt gain from defragging in any OS
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> michael87: do you have an input plugin selected?
[09:14] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: i know, that's what i said
[09:15] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: that's why i asked you to specify your comment - becuase it confused me
[09:15] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I don't have a library file for mupen :(
[09:15] <Benkinooby> cjae: main message for you: forget formatting on ssd
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> benkinooby: platter based drives need to rotate the platter to seek data, ssd doesnt have this due to zero moving parts
[09:15] <cjae> Benkinooby: yes I have read that
[09:16] <cjae> I was just seeing effect if someone else or os did
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> michael87: launch it from terminal, the output may help
[09:16] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: i said that too - look above ;)
[09:16] <cjae> Benkinooby: auslogics defrag lets you hide ssds thou, so .... sweet
[09:16] <michael87> ActionParsnip, launch m64py in terminal?
[09:17] <cjae> Benkinooby: is this the same thing? icedtea6-plugin
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> michael87: yes, the output may give clues
[09:17] <Benkinooby> cjae: i think it is the non-oracle java
[09:17] <cjae> right
[09:17] <Benkinooby> cjae: it DOES the same thing... but IS NOT the same thing :P
[09:18] <cjae> ok so where the heck do I find it
[09:18] <Benkinooby> cjae: so far what i have read is that the worries about ssd life time does not apply to modern ssds anymore
[09:18] <shadej> guys, do u any youtube video downloader for ubuntu please?
[09:18] <ran_> someone here knows about boot or shutdown problems with 13.04?
[09:19] <Benkinooby> shadej: do you use firefox?
[09:19] <gr8> hi. the thunderbird symbol shows 1 new message, even though there is no. what could be a reason for this?
[09:19] <bazhang> shadej, firefox addon video download helper, check the firefox addons page
[09:19] <SpartanF32> ActionParsnip, AMD 6650m on Raring
[09:19] <cjae> Benkinooby: ya well I already rma one before this one so I dont trust **** anymore
[09:20] <Benkinooby> cjae: what does rma mean?
[09:20] <cjae> Benkinooby: send back
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> spartanf32: should be ok with the proprietary driver
[09:20] <numberto> hi guys,  I have a problem with my page up button. When I press (fn) + PgUp nothing happens, while (fn)+PgUp always work normal. What might be the problem?
[09:20] <Benkinooby> cjae: after what period of time?
[09:21] <cjae> <months
[09:21] <cjae> month*
[09:21] <michael87> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/ukBrT0hE
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> numberto: does the system have a make and model?
[09:21] <cjae> boourns!
[09:21] <shadej> Benkinooby:  and bazhang thank u
[09:21] <shadej> yeah i am using firefox
[09:21] <numberto> ActionParsnip: what is make an model?
[09:21] <Benkinooby> shadej: then go with the addon bazhang recommended
[09:21] <shadej> Benkinooby: how is its speed?
[09:22] <numberto> ActionParsnip: oh, sorry I got it. Just a sec.
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> michael87: good, now you have something you can search for
[09:22] <Benkinooby> cjae: you know what - use conky. it can show you the write and read accesse on your ssd
[09:22] <crazybrain> how to download JDownloader?
[09:22] <Benkinooby> shadej: as fast as it can get
[09:22] <crazybrain> As the update process crashes my computer
[09:22] <crazybrain> coz it uses java
[09:22] <SpartanF32> ActionParsnip, of course, but when i installed them, at reboot i had kwin crashed and disabled all effcts. Now it seams to work with driver on repos but som effect apperas disabled and i don't know why..
[09:22] <bazhang> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/   shadej
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: you will need java, there is a PPA for it
[09:23] <Benkinooby> shadej:sue video-downlaod-helper and down-them-all - those two addons work very well together
[09:23] <bazhang> shadej, Try it and see
[09:23] <crazybrain> ActionParsnip: i have java but it is corrupt
[09:23] <walltender> Some one can help with this build error: http://pastebin.com/VWS2iKh6
[09:23] <Benkinooby> shadej: downloadhelper will make the movies downloadbale, and down them all will speed things up
[09:23] <crazybrain> crashes everytime
[09:23] <crazybrain> fuckin bitch
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> !find jdownloader | crazybrain
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: which java are you using?
[09:23] <cjae> Benkinooby: checking
[09:23] <ran_> i need some help about boot problems in xubuntu 13.04
[09:23] <bazhang> crazybrain, no cursing here
[09:23] <crazybrain> ohh sorry bazhang
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> !details | ran_
[09:24] <Benkinooby> cjae: i use conky to monitor hdd read and writey, ram usage, network traffic, process cpu consumpotion
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: which java are you using?
[09:24] <cjae> Benkinooby: I hated that episode
[09:24] <crazybrain> ActionParsnip: it says java 7
[09:24] <Benkinooby> cjae: ?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: what is the output of: java -version
[09:24] <cjae> Benkinooby: http://wiki.conky.cc/index.php?title=Conky_Wiki
[09:25] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I'm a linux newb. And thats sayying something becuase I'm the only one that knows how to run everything on it where I live assumingly. so please what the hell do you mean by now I have something to search for?
[09:25] <cjae> thats the doll from trailerparkboys isnt it? Benkinooby
[09:25] <crazybrain> ActionParsnip: java version "1.7.0_09"
[09:25] <crazybrain> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea7 2.3.3) (7u9-2.3.3-0ubuntu1~12.10.1)
[09:25] <crazybrain> OpenJDK Server VM (build 23.2-b09, mixed mode)
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> michael87: the text you pastebinned....
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: tried sun java?
[09:26] <crazybrain> not yet
[09:26] <Benkinooby> cjae: don't knwo about that...
[09:26] <ran_> the boot is slower than 12.10, something like 50-60 seconds longer. what is interesting is that its not every boot. sometimes the boot is alright.
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: the webupd8 ppa has oracle java (was sun)
[09:26] <crazybrain> can you give me another alternative of jdownloader? ActionParsnip
[09:26] <michael87> ActionParsnip, yes I know. And I'm tired. I am not good at looking for what I need in command line. I only know a few sudo commands and that is about it
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: what do you want to acieve?
[09:27] <numberto> ActionParsnip: will this be sufficient http://pastie.org/7830163
[09:27] <crazybrain> I just want a software with functions like Internet Download Manager!!! ActionParsnip
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> michael87: this is nothing to do with "sudo commands", its simply using the web to find fixes. works in any OS
[09:27] <onebitxajax> hi to all
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: web browsers can download stuff. why do you need another app?
[09:28] <onebitxajax> i want to suggest this software http://en.djl-linux.org/ it's GPL open source and it's a game manager
[09:28] <SpartanF32> ActionParsnip, i'll try with a fresh install may something went wrong or maybe that there was the update to the kernel and instead off a rebbot i had also installed the driver.
[09:28] <onebitxajax> how can i ask ubuntu to put it in repo?
[09:28] <michael87> ActionParsnip, so what am I looking for? A core startup?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> onebixajax: try http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <MonkeyDust> onebitxajax  create a ppa and hope someone picks it up, in time, it may be accepted i the repos, after it has been screened and tested
[09:29] <onebitxajax> MonkeyDust: it's a python soft
[09:29] <crazybrain> ActionParsnip: like downloading video from youtube and manage downloads and all that
[09:29] <onebitxajax> ok i will try
[09:29] <bazhang> onebitxajax, or make a ppa
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> michael87: no, just copy that text you pastebinned and putbit in a search engine.
[09:29] <bazhang> !ppa > onebitxajax
[09:29] <crazybrain> I just need the idm version of Ubuntu,act
[09:29] <cjae> Benkinooby: thanks for help
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: there are video downloaders as addons and extensions for web browsers.
[09:30] <crazybrain> ActionParsnip: i just need download manager!!!!
[09:30] <ran_> ubottu: the boot is slower than 12.10, something like 50-60 seconds longer. what is interesting is that its not every boot. sometimes the boot is alright.
[09:30] <Benkinooby> cjae: you#re welcome
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: you can use uget for downloads if you want, or fatrat (which has a web GUI too) you can manage downloads
[09:31] <michael87> ActionParsnip, pastbinned all that into google and nothing shows up. lol with all that text I figured it wouldn't do jack
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: web browsers have download managers built in though
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> michael87: how did you figure that
[09:32] <name> hi
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> michael87: more text equals more results....its how searching works.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> michael87: did you also try asking in #python
[09:33] <crazybrain> !thanks
[09:34] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I do not know anything about python
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> michael87: well, the issue is obviously python based so its an obvious thing to try, right? The guys in #python will know about python
[09:34] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I am a linux newb. I just transitioned from windows 7 to raring ringtail. so far this is the only pain in the ass for me
[09:35] <michael87> ActionParsnip, oooooh you mean the python chat channel?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> michael87: yes.... too obvious?
[09:35] <Thermoelectric> I'm having issues installing Ubuntu. 12.04, 12.10 and 13.04 all either freeze up or kernel panic on install. Any suggestions?
[09:36] <Ben65> Thermoelectric: try using 12.04 alternate cd to install
[09:36] <varshapg> ok
[09:36] <AndChat308009> !Upgrade
[09:36] <Benkinooby> Thermoelectric: try alternate installer
[09:36] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I am still learning here ok. I am not used to work arounds for everything. I've been a windows user for a long time. Just didn't like the direction they where going in
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> thermoelectric: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded
[09:36] <Benkinooby> Thermoelectric: at what point do they freeze?
[09:37] <Benkinooby> Thermoelectric: and what hardware?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> michael87: giving a python app what it needs to run is not a work around
[09:37] <michael87> ActionParsnip, ok I'm heading to that room now. not sure if it logs me out of this. if so thanks for the help
[09:38] <Thermoelectric> I'll give the alternate installer a try. Benkinooby Just as the timezone part comes up. Gigabyte GA-P35-S3 with a Pentium D, Radeon X300 graphics card.
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> michael87: you can be in multiple channels
[09:38] <pooja> hi.
[09:38] <Thermoelectric> ActionParsnip, I have not, but I'm assuming I wouldn't have got 4 bad iso's.
[09:38] <AndChat308009> Hi
[09:38] <varshapg> hiii
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> thermoelectric: statidtically it is possible
[09:39] <pooja> hello
[09:39] <Thermoelectric> ActionParsnip, Linux Live USB creator said it's integrity was checked, if that means anything.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> thermoelectric: did you download using torrents?
[09:39] <Thermoelectric> Web.
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> Thermoelectric  where on the web?
[09:39] <Thermoelectric> Through my ISP's mirror.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> thermoelectric: did you try the boot option: radeon.nomodeset=1
[09:40] <Thermoelectric> http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/releases/12.04.2/
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> Thermoelectric  http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[09:41] <Thermoelectric> ActionParsnip, I didn't try that option. Let me give it a shot.
[09:43] <gilo> hello
[09:43] <michael87> ActionParsnip, it is sayying becuase I am not regestered it won't let me post :(
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> !register
[09:45] <michael87> ActionParsnip, you know what. this crap is way to complicated. maybe if I lighten the load with ubuntu with a lighter os say cinnamon or lxde or something maybe project 64 will run better. I checked no opengl for project 64 supported and mupen64 is taking forever to figure out
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> michael87: may help http://www.playdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/13.04/?category=Emulator
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> michael87: cinnamon and lxde are desktop environments, not OSes
[09:48] <michael87> ActionParsnip, ok environment. Anyway thank you for the help
[09:50] <gilo> hello i have an hp Probook 4320s with ati mobility radeon 4500 hd and i'm trying to install the graphics driver, but when i install the driver the system freezes when it is trying to boot
[09:51] <Cua> gilo: the default driver does not work well for you?
[09:51] <Thermoelectric> ActionParsnip, needed radeon.modeset=1, that got further but still had the panic. Gonna try alternate.
[09:53] <gilo> no it drain the battery and the laptop becomes hot and the graphics are very poor when i use it on a fullhd tv screen with hdmi
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> gilo: you will need the legacy fglrx ppa
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> gilo: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[09:54] <freaky[t]> hi all. is there a possibility to install ubuntu alongside win8+bitlocker?
[09:55] <A1Recon> Hey anyone got their HDMI audio working ?? Im running 13.04 with an ATI card.
[09:55] <gilo> ok thx i will give it a try
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> freaky[t]: try resizing the ntfs in windows
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: which radeon chip?
[09:56] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: ATI 4350
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: did you use this: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[09:57] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: let me see
[09:59] <tabsterleir> Anyone know of a KDE Plasmoid that shows the output of a command?
[10:00] <ran_> i need help about slow boot in 13.04
[10:00] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: I tried the legacy 13.1 drivers and my Unity disappeared....so i am hesitant to try it again. I tried pavucontrol but for some reason it does not show the HDMI
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> ran_: run: dmesg | less
[10:03] <rajvi> Hi all, Could anyone explain me this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144135
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> ran_: look for large gaps in the time on the left. use cursors to scroll up and down
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> rajvi: did you clean install with Raring?
[10:04] <vitimiti> is there any reason for gtk-recordmydesktop recording my windows broken in two, mouse not moving, etc?
[10:04] <rajvi> no
[10:04] <rajvi> its an upgrade
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> rajvi: how did you go from 32bit to 64bit then?
[10:05] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=69a6d1a786a2b262ccec921531c332a0af8dbcd6
[10:05] <rajvi> its from 12.10 32 bit to 13.04 32 bit
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> rajvi: read your own link....
[10:06] <ran_> ActionParsnip: i have done this, but i dont get the broblem.
[10:07] <ran_> somtimes the boot is OK, and sometimes it slow.
[10:07] <rajvi> i am sorry
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: if you run: alsamixer is the sound maxed and unmuted. if you hit F6 is the right device selected
[10:07] <rajvi> I wrote it incorrect
[10:07] <rajvi> i have to correct it
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> ran_: have you tested your RAM using memtest from Grub?
[10:08] <ran_> in 12.10 it was not happened.
[10:08] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip:  how do i run alsamixer?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: also do similar in the Sound app in dash
[10:08] <ran_> yes with memtest 86. and its ok
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: its a terminal command
[10:09] <rajvi> please help
[10:10] <ran_> i have tested the hard drive and its alright too.
[10:10] <cjae> where is conf file for grub now I have to look at windows chainload
[10:10] <cjae> cant boot windows
[10:11] <cjae> ran update-grub and grub-mkconfig, nothing
[10:11] <cjae> when I select windows 7 from grub just does a loop back to grub
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> rajvi: if you make a new user, is it ok?
[10:12] <rajvi> have tried yet
[10:12] <rajvi> let me try
[10:12] <rajvi> good idea
[10:12] <ran_> i did update-grub, but not grub-mkconfig
[10:13] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: selected the right device using F6  got these  Card: HDA ATI HDMI Chip: ATI R6xx HDMI Item: S/PDIF [Off]
[10:13] <cjae> brb
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: you'll have to play around, see what you can do
[10:19] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: I played around everything.. too bad. BTW I never had to install drivers for my GPU in Win7 but the HDMI audio still worked with 1920x1080 res..
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: so? its a different OS with completely different support
[10:21] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: I was just saying...
[10:21] <withnale> anyone know how to get unity switcher to show window names on all windows? I've tried the changes to ccsm text and scale addon plugins but they don't seem to work.
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: in the asus p1ah2 pundit, the hdmi doesnt work and can never work in windows, only works in linux
[10:26] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: What audio setup do u use??
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: regular 2.1 speakers in the audiojack on my soundcard. weird huh
[10:29] <cjae> ok I am stumped on how to make win7 boot from grub
[10:30] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Since my HDMI is not working. I am currently using the DVI port on my TV with the audio jack plugged in.  Not weird, I used my Altec Lansing 2.1 before it broke down.
[10:30] <cjae> windows 7 was installed first on sda1
[10:30] <cjae> then ubuntu
[10:30] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: U stream media around ur network?
[10:30] <cjae> bootloader goes in circles when selecting windows 7 on dev/sda1
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: via samba over lan and sftp over www
[10:32] <cjae> http://pastebin.com/AVd4k4Lu
[10:32] <cjae> ubuntu boots fine
[10:33] <neblaz> Hi, have a question on installing Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit on a Toshiba notebook which comes with an installed Windows 8 64-bit os.
[10:33] <cjae> from fdisk -l /dev/sda1   *        2048   164104191    82051072    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[10:34] <rusty0101> cjae: out of curiosity, where is grub installed? /dev/sda, or /dev/sda1?
[10:34] <neblaz> I created an Ubuntu DVD from the Ubuntu .iso file, when installation procedure starts, I get no option to install Ubuntu alongside the already installed OS (Windows 8). Why is that?
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> rusty0101  sda1 is a partition of sda
[10:35] <cjae> rusty0101: son of a I think that may be what I did wrong duruing install
[10:35] <cjae> rusty0101: how do I tell?
[10:36] <rusty0101> MonkeyDust: Yes, but the grub bootloader doesn't need to be installed in a partition, it can be loaded into the boot sector directly on /dev/sda.
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> neblaz  may be due to !uefi
[10:36] <neblaz> The installation procedure says, there is no OS detected on the HDD, but there is Windows 8 installed.
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> neblaz: have you chkdsk'd the NTFS?
[10:37] <neblaz> Well, in BIOS it is UEFI boot selected, Secure Boot is disabled, Windows 8 works fine, so Ubuntu 13.04. should install respectively see the Windows 8 installatino...
[10:38] <neblaz> I have not chkdsk the NTFS... why should that be done?
[10:38] <cjae> rusty0101: so does that matter where it is installed
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> neblaz: make sure that the file system is contiguous and error free. what else does chkdsk do?
[10:39] <neblaz> Do I have to install Ubuntu 13.04. from a DVD or can I use also an USB-Stick?
[10:40] <Neggy> Morning everyone.
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> neblaz  usb is fine
[10:40] <rusty0101> cjae: was checking. There is instructions on repairing a grub2 install at https:/help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing I'm not sure if it will tell you where grub2 was installed to begin with.
[10:41] <cjae> rusty0101: the reason it got mucked up, think anyways is that the installer was mislabeling the drives eg. /dev/sdx  so when it asked where to install bootloader, I selected the drive that has windows on it, but I believe I selected sda1 instead of just sda for example
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> neblaz: you can use unetbootin in windows using an MD5 tested ISO
[10:42] <cjae> rusty0101: but I have ran sudo grub-mkconfig as well
[10:42] <cjae> and then update-grub
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> neblaz: a chkdsk can be useful, you can also resize NTFS in Windows
[10:47] <A1Recon> Neggy: Good afternoon Neggy!
[10:47] <Neggy> AIRecon. Afternoon.
[10:48] <cjae> brb
[10:48] <ronalds> how safe is putting kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 13.04
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> ronalds: define safety?
[10:49] <ronalds> usually I get bloated situation with ubuntu session messed
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ronalds: its fine, you will duplicate a bit of functionality but you will get a KDE option in lightdm
[10:50] <ronalds> ok tnx
[10:52] <ronalds> I just discovered homerunnera app in wm
[10:52] <garage00> i'm planning to upgrade hardware, but saw some issues related with linux/uefi, should I assume all w8 laptops have uefi?
[10:52] <ronalds> yes
[10:52] <ronalds> uefi is win 8 thingy
[10:53] <garage00> despicable, so i have to pay extra for an extra headache i don't need.
[10:53] <ronalds> but all the laptops now comes with win 8
[10:53] <garage00> yes, that's really the problem
[10:54] <ronalds> ubuntu 13.04 probably boots there, but last time I tried 12.04.02 it didn't work
[10:54] <garage00> even when i don't use windows, they still find a way to make life miserable
[10:54] <nevyn> you can for now ignore uefi
[10:54] <garage00> nevyn: what do you mean?
[10:54] <ronalds> I just wanted to see how live cd would work on my friends newest beast laptop
[10:54] <hungry4gry> is it easy to get a usb mouse working/right click on the touchpad on an ASUS?
[10:54] <nevyn> it'll either work you hyou need to tweak a some bios settins to enable legacy bios mode
[10:54] <nevyn> bleh
[10:54] <Neggy> tasty UEFI.
[10:55] <nevyn> it'll either just work work when you disable secure boot or work in bios emulation mode.
[10:58] <nicekiwi> is anyone here?
[10:58] <anew> why is debian considered better than ubuntu ?
[10:59] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: hundreds of people
[10:59] <KolakCC> You know, there are things called preferences?
[10:59] <gordonjcp> anew: lots of things are considered better than Ubuntu
[10:59] <gordonjcp> anew: Ubuntu is considered better than lots of things
[10:59] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, phew
[10:59] <gordonjcp> anew: it depends what you're trying to do
[10:59] <garage00> beer is better than ubuntu, but only when i'm thirsty
[10:59] <brainwash> -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:00] <gordonjcp> brainwash: totally
[11:01] <nevyn> garage00: uefi is actually good it moves us to a 64bit init process rather than 8 which means faster booting parallel device init and all sorts of other good things
[11:01] <nevyn> it's been burned by secureboot.
[11:01] <gordonjcp> yup
[11:01] <gordonjcp> UEFI rocks
[11:01] <gordonjcp> everyone should be using UEFI
[11:01] <nevyn> and by broken implmentations.
[11:02] <gordonjcp> do not buy non-UEFI hardware
[11:02] <nevyn> and the complexity of it.
[11:02] <Serhad> Moin zusammen
[11:02] <Serhad> ich schaffe es nicht auf meinem Ubuntu server eine Subdomain zu konnektieren. Was mache ich falsch?
[11:02] <Serhad> Oh sorry
[11:02] <Serhad> english
[11:02] <Serhad> i stuck to connect my subdomain on my ubuntu server
[11:02] <garage00> thanks, i'm reading up more on it.  I'm just concerned i'd have to spend too much time trying to make it work, rather than having it work for me
[11:03] <Serhad> is there anynone to tell me my fail
[11:03] <hungry4gry> is it easy to get a usb mouse working/right click on the touchpad on an ASUS?
 do not buy non-UEFI hardware <--- can you even do that nowadays?
[11:03] <Cyber_Akuma> Without trying to on purpose I mean
[11:04] <gordonjcp> Cyber_Akuma: well quite
[11:05] <nevyn> garage00: as I say it'll either just work, work with secure boot turned off (this is what I'm doing now with 13.04) or work in legacy bios mode.
[11:05] <nevyn> if you buy a microsoft surface on the other hand.. life's a world of sucky hurt.
[11:06] <Cyber_Akuma> Although I was disappoined that my UEFI laptop's bios still looked like the oldschool ASCII bios design
[11:06] <nevyn> Cyber_Akuma: I wanted a rotating hypercube.
[11:06] <Cyber_Akuma> I thoght Ubuntu supported secure boot?
[11:06] <ogzy> does 13.04 server iso include LTSP installation at the menu?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> hungry4gry: which model?
[11:06] <garage00> nevyn: the real concern is that my top prospect is a samsung :)
[11:06] <nevyn> it does. but I was trying to install debian... (long story still grumpy)
[11:06] <Cyber_Akuma> nevyn: At least something a little easier to navigate
[11:06] <nevyn> garage00: read mjg59's blog.
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> ogzy: i believe so
[11:07] <Cyber_Akuma> As well as change variables
[11:07] <ogzy> ActionParsnip: normally it comew via alternate cd and there is no alternate cd for 13.04
[11:07] <nevyn> Cyber_Akuma: and have to re-write all the documentation and field the support calls? you're mad
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> ogzy: could use the minimal iso
[11:08] <Cyber_Akuma> ... yeah, like secure boot dosen't do that already :P
[11:08] <Cyber_Akuma> And I said LIKE
[11:08] <ogzy> ActionParsnip: then i should install the packages manually?
[11:08] <nevyn> Cyber_Akuma: it's just a thing to find an turn off..
[11:08] <Cyber_Akuma> its not just a uefi version of an old bios, its a new one, just still ASCII and requiring random keys to change different variables
[11:08] <nevyn> it's no worse than hyperthreading on prescott..
[11:08] <Cyber_Akuma> Was more complicated on my laptop actually
[11:09] <Cyber_Akuma> Have to turn it off, turn ON legacy boot instead of uefi boot
[11:09] <Cyber_Akuma> reboot
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> ogzy: sure
[11:09] <Cyber_Akuma> THEN the options to allow booting from soething other than the internal hdd appear
[11:09] <Cyber_Akuma> That was the only way I coudl get the win7 disk to boot on the stupid thing to wipe out 8
[11:09] <nevyn> Cyber_Akuma: hrm on mine I can just press f12
[11:10] <nevyn> well that's sane actually
[11:10] <cairne> Cyber_Akuma: I had similiar issue on my laptop, linux installed easily with uefi, windows was a pain
[11:10] <nevyn> win7 can't boot in uefi
[11:10] <Cyber_Akuma> It still seems to want a secure boot comaptible os when secure boot is on if you boot from remocable media
[11:10] <Cyber_Akuma> cairne: same!
[11:10] <Cyber_Akuma> Ubuntu booted with secure boot enabled
[11:10] <Cyber_Akuma> win7 would not
[11:10] <nevyn> sure.
[11:10] <nevyn> it doesn't support it.
[11:10] <hungry4gry> ActionParsnip, sorry for the last reply.  Asus X55A
[11:10] <nevyn> only win8
[11:10] <nevyn> but that's wayyy ot for here.
[11:11] <hungry4gry> had to step outside
[11:11] <Cyber_Akuma> nevyn: My point is even if I disable it, I have to go through several more hoops to allow booting from remoable media that isn't secure boot
[11:11] <nevyn> yes. that's expected.
[11:11] <nevyn> well no
[11:11] <nevyn> you have to go through more hoops to boot media that isn't uefi enabled
[11:11] <Cyber_Akuma> If I disable secure boot, I can boot a non scure boot os.... from teh hdd
[11:12] <Cyber_Akuma> to boot from a non-secure boot disk or usb drive thogh, I had to go through several more hoops in the bios
[11:12] <Cyber_Akuma> Pretty sure win7 supports uefi
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: according to wikipedia win7 can boot uefi
[11:12] <Cyber_Akuma> My desktop is uefi and win7 boots fine :P
[11:12] <Cyber_Akuma> AS did ubuntu and mint
[11:13] <Cyber_Akuma> ... after I made them stop going nuts with my mouse
[11:13] <nevyn> only x86_64/amd
[11:13] <Cyber_Akuma> Its a new desktop, its not 32bit :P
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> msg alis list *bodhi*
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> hungry4gry: try installing xfce4 package, then log off and log into the xfce session. Is it ok?
[11:14] <garage00> nevyn: thanks, for all the feedback, it'd take me several hours to figure these things on my own
[11:14] <cairne> Cyber_Akuma: I believe you have to jump through hoops to get uefi with win 7, I looked into it but its just not worth it. When I want windows which is rare, i just switch from uefi to csm mode in bios
[11:14] <earman_> what is ubuntu free talk channel?
[11:15] <nevyn> earman_: -discuss
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> earman_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:15] <earman_> thanks
[11:15] <Cyber_Akuma> The only issue I had installing win7 on it was that it refused to isntall while the raid5 array was in place
[11:18] <brainwash> Mounting an encfs encrypted directory on top of an ecryptfs encrypted /home partition (ext4) causes some trouble in 13.04. There are no error while using encfs and fusermount -u, however an additional flush-ecryptfs- process appears after every logout and most likely keeps /home busy on shutdown. Orphaned inodes in the filesystem journal are the result. Any ideas?
[11:18] <surfzoid> Hi
[11:18] <surfzoid> is there an linux tool to convert dm_84 video?
[11:18] <Cyber_Akuma> yo
[11:19] <surfzoid> video from ET wolf games
[11:19] <surfzoid> yo Cyber :D
[11:19] <hungry4gry> ActionParsnip i'm on windows now.  i'll try exactly that thank you.
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> surfzoid  try winff, i'm not familiar with that format,tho
[11:19] <surfzoid> what is winff?
[11:20] <hungry4gry> what's an xfce session?  I'm literally brand new to linux
[11:20] <surfzoid> ho, winff is an FFmpeg tool, so it will not work :D
[11:20] <surfzoid> MonkeyDust: i already try mpeg or avi tool:D
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> surfzoid  then start from the beginning, what have you tried before you came here for help
[11:21] <cfhowlett> surfzoid, avconv should do it
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  ffmpeg uses avconv
[11:21] <earman_> how i search files in ubuntu one share?
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  winff uses avconv <-- correction
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> hungry4gry: its a different desktop environment without compiz stinking the place up
[11:21] <surfzoid> ctrl + f?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, as I undertand it, ffmpeg is deprecated (still fuctional however).  recommended package is avconv.
[11:22] <Cyber_Akuma> dm84 is the fourcc of the codec?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> or could use mencoder
[11:23] <Thermoelectric> Okay, I'll bite. The integrity test keeps failing for the Alternate installer I downloaded (from two different mirrors) on the same file, nic-pcmcia-modules blah. Am I doing something wrong?
[11:23] <hungry4gry> ActionParsnip, i don't know what compiz is, but i don't want a new desktop environment
[11:23] <hungry4gry> i just want my mouse to work
[11:23] <surfzoid> dm_84 is the extension file name
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Thermoelectric: try torrents
[11:23] <hungry4gry> i mean how does a usb mouse not work out of the box on ubuntu linux?
[11:23] <surfzoid> only the game it self can read it as i know
[11:23] <hungry4gry> this apparently is a persistent problem that has failed to be addressed over several major upgrades
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  true, about ffmpeg vs avconv, that is
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> hungry4gry: its to test. makes sure the button works. its called 'exploring the issue'
[11:24] <surfzoid> mencoder, avidemux dont reconize this file
[11:24] <surfzoid> vlc too
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> hungry4gry  never had issues with usb mice i ubuntu
[11:24] <Neggy> Me neither.
[11:25] <hungry4gry> a ton of people on the forums have.  and right click doesn't function on my touchpad. :-\
[11:25] <hungry4gry> is it control-click for a right click?
[11:25] <Cyber_Akuma> What game is this again? Just because it has a weird extension dosen't nessesairly mean the codec is custom
[11:25] <surfzoid> it is ET wolf
 i mean how does a usb mouse not work out of the box on ubuntu linux? <--- Mine didn't either
[11:25] <surfzoid> enmy teritory
[11:26] <earman_> why ubuntu one not opensource?
[11:26] <hungry4gry> monkeydust and neggy it appears it's 2 and 2.  50% of unbuntu users experience mouse failure.
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> earman_: what gives you that idea?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> earman_  ask #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:27] <Neggy> So strange that a USB mouse would not work. A gneric USB driver should do it jus tlovely.
[11:27] <Neggy> just*
[11:27] <Cyber_Akuma> Youd think so, yeah
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> hungry4gry  well, that's odd
[11:27] <Cyber_Akuma> My mouse kept losing focus, or locking focus on one windows no matter what was on top of it or where I was clicking
[11:27] <earman_> ActionParsnip because i can share files with others use ubuntuone
[11:28] <Cyber_Akuma> Had to load an xorg script I got from someone to make the mouse behave
[11:28] <hungry4gry> MonkeyDust I may have to try a less odd linux distro ;)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> earman_: that doesnt make it not open source...
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> hungry4gry  freedom of linux: don't like it, try something else :)
[11:29] <earman_> ActionParsnip i mean how i can search other people shared files in ubuntuone?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> earman_: not sure. i dont use it. but it is open source
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> earman_  it's invite only
[11:30] <earman_> ActionParsnip no ubuntuone is closed source as i know
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> earman_  please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:31] <hungry4gry> MonkeyDust actually that's freedom in general.  I like Windows 8 because it's great with those new-fangled and complicated "USB" mice lol
[11:31] <gordonjcp> hungry4gry: you are the only person in the world having problems with your mouse
[11:31] <earman_> ok
[11:31] <hungry4gry> so i may just try something else ... but not linux.  i'm pretty put off by your attitude
[11:31] <gordonjcp> hungry4gry: have you tried a different mouse?
[11:31] <hungry4gry> gordonjcp, the forums are full of people with the same problem
[11:31] <Cyber_Akuma> hungry4gry, is it a R.A.T. mouse by any chance?
[11:32] <hungry4gry> no i'm not going to try another mouse.  it works fine.
[11:32] <gordonjcp> hungry4gry: what exactly is the problem?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> earman_: download the source if you want https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client
[11:32] <hungry4gry> it's a logitech wireless mouse.
[11:32] <gordonjcp> oh, wireless
[11:32] <hungry4gry> doesn't work, lol
[11:32] <gordonjcp> they never work
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> earman_: try a little research
[11:32] <gordonjcp> hungry4gry: "doesn't work", is that it?
[11:32] <gordonjcp> hungry4gry: take away its cannabis and stop it watching daytime TV maybe
[11:32] <earman_> ActionParsnip what you mean invite only!
[11:32] <gordonjcp> hungry4gry: tell it to get its idle mousey backside out and get a job
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> hungry4gry  use blueman for bluetooth detection
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> earman_: not sure. im logged in to launchpad which may be a thing. the client is open source though. you can also use apt-get to pull down the source deb
[11:34] <Serhad> no one who could help me?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> serhad: i scrolled up and not seen you question. wassup?
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> Serhad  start with a question
[11:36] <Serhad> i couldn´t config my subdomain... on my ubuntu server
[11:36] <Serhad> it doesn´t work.
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> serhad: did you ask a question at all?
[11:36] <Camz> ActionParsnip: he did about 20 min ago
[11:36] <hungry4gry> you know i had my criticisms of Windows 8, but after installing a dual-boot Ubuntu, having a mouse failure (lol), and then getting to know the Ubuntu community
[11:36] <hungry4gry> I now LOVE windows 8
[11:36] <hungry4gry> thank you all
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> Serhad  type /join #ubuntu-server
[11:36] <earman_> ActionParsnip well i guess the reason is they want to have an advantage over competing cloud providers, but, i thought they only made the server proprietary while giving us an open source client
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> camz: explains a lot. thanks :-)
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> earman_: not sure about the server side. you could always run a one cloud server
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> serhad: dont you just configure dns with the subdomain....
[11:38] <earman_> ActionParsnip so how to search other people shared files?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> earman_: didnt know you could. like I said earlier. I dont use it
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> earman_  i use ubuntuone, there's no such thing as a search tool in it
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> earman_  it's no p2p filesharing program
[11:39] <earman_> MonkeyDust if so who can get my shared files?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> earman_  the people you invite
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> earman_: the people you give the url of the file to
[11:40] <earman_> ok, thanks
[11:40] <nik90_> ActionParsnip: ping
[11:42] <nik90_> In the sound settings, the output shows a Dummy output in Ubuntu 13.04. Does anyone here know how to solve it?
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> earman_  like so http://ubuntuone.com/0vs6fLwRcA07lFRUyLn2AU
[11:42] <nik90_> When I restart the computer it correctly detects my sound devices. The dummy output issue only occurs occasionally
[11:45] <snpresent> dose linux now use plan9's ideas?
[11:45] <gordonjcp> snpresent: what, being totally unusable, not supporting hardware less than 20 years old, that sort of thing?
[11:46] <gustav> snpresent: No.
[11:46] <snpresent> thanks you for your explain
[11:46] <gustav> snpresent: I hope there will be a nVidia driver for plan9.
[11:47] <bekks> There wont be, not in this dimension. And its OT to Ubuntu. :)
[11:48] <snpresent> gustav i am afraid you can't now
[11:48] <gustav> snpresent: Can't what?
[11:49] <snpresent> gustav get nVidia driver for plan9 i mean
[11:49] <bekks> snpresent: Thats widely known, yes.
[11:49] <gustav> snpresent: Yes, I was talking about the future.
[11:50] <snpresent> bekks widely known what?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> nik90_: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[11:51] <bekks> snpresent: That there is no plan9 support not planned support for it from nvidia.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> nik90_: wait 10 seconds and reboot
[11:51] <snpresent> bekks yes
[11:52] <qwerkus> hi; did anyone manage to get dri enabled on a radeon hd 7550 with latest ubuntu ?
[11:53] <qwerkus> i'm working with Blender, and it's just sad how slow gallium is....
[11:53] <[deXter]> qwerkus, What kernel version?
[11:53] <nik90_> ActionParsnip: How do I fix this issue permanently? Because to fix this issue temporarily, all I need to do is restart my machine.
[11:54] <nik90_> ActionParsnip: would killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse* and then restarting solve it for good?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> snpresent: the last releast from plan9 was more than ten years ago
 3.8.0-19-generic
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> nik90_: you will get default sound settings, its a great first start
[11:55] <[deXter]> qwerkus, Ah. Well there have been improvements in kernel 3.9, but you'd also have to install the most recent mesa from the xorg-edgers ppa.
[11:55] <snpresent> ActionParsnip did they end this project?
 Sounds interesting; do you have ppa link, or did you complie manually ?
[11:55] <chunkyhead> guys my ubuntu has become really really slow. takes >1.5 min to boot up. any help?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> snpresent: no idea, its offtopic here though
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: run: dmesg | less
[11:56] <snpresent> thanks ,
[11:56] <[deXter]> qwerkus, You can get the kernel from the ubuntu mainline kernel ppa, as for mesa: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers
[11:56] <[deXter]> and also xserver-xorg-video-ati
 Thank you very much. I going to try this right away...
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: read the times in the left colomn. look for large gaps in time
[11:57] <chunkyhead> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5654294/
[11:57] <chunkyhead> oh ok lol
[11:57] <[deXter]> qwerkus, A word of caution, this is bleeding-edge.. you might want to backup your system or have a live cd at hand..
[11:57] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5654294/
[11:57] <chunkyhead> i will look too,
 No problem; I'm used to this kind of sport...
[11:57] <[deXter]> :)
[11:57] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, how large a time gap?
[11:58] <chunkyhead> what does dmesg go btw?
[11:58] <chunkyhead> do*^
[11:59] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, check this out :O http://paste.ubuntu.com/5654297/
[11:59] <nomike> hi
[12:01] <nomike> I'm administering a small setup with one server and three workstations based on Ubuntu. We use Kerberos and LDAP for authentication and I now have a few questions about lightdm.
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: i think you have the culprit
[12:02] <chunkyhead> how to eliminate? ActionParsnip
[12:02] <newsalor> I have two networking problems on my wifes computer. 1) 4g usb stick modem doesn't come online. there is no option of turning it on from the drop down menu (13.04) anymore. 2) with the wlan on, ping and traceroute work fine and i can access the wlan router too, but i can't open a webpage.
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: dmesg are the kernel messages. Read through and you will see what is going on. its like windows event viewer but better as you can grep it to seatch easily :-)
[12:03] <nomike> On Lightdm I'm presented with 4 Items: "Local-User" (a local user), "Login", "Guest Session" and "Remote Login". When I choose "Login" and login with my kerberos principal, the next time I come to lightdm, my RealName is also shown in the list.
[12:03] <newsalor> My question is, what additional info is needed to solve these problems? :)
[12:03] <chunkyhead> define grep ActionParsnip
[12:03] <nomike> The more users login on the system the more entries get shown.
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> newsalor: run: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[12:04] <nomike> However after some time, entries seem to disappear.
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> newsalor: then try the web
[12:04] <nomike> I was not able to find a definitive pattern on when this happens, but it's not happening on reboots.
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: why dont YOU search online to find out yourself....
[12:04] <snpresent> my touchpad not work in13.04 but work in12.10
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> snpresent: does the system haveva make and model?
[12:05] <chunkyhead> it takes so much time to add swap -_- i guess i dont want it not to put swap
[12:05] <chunkyhead> i mean i want swap lol, ActionParsnip
[12:05] <nomike> The problem is, that the users loose there preferences (preferred Xsession, keyboard layout, language) when their entry is removed
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: is your swap encrypted?
[12:05] <nomike> Do you know where lightdm stores these things?
[12:06] <chunkyhead> yeah
[12:06] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip,
[12:06] <snpresent> emachines E642G
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: might be a thing. see if its a known issue online
[12:06] <chunkyhead> how did swap get encrypted? any idea? i dont remember manually encrypting it
[12:06] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, ^
[12:07] <newsalor> ActionParsnip: thanks. I'll try that.
[12:08] <snpresent> ActionParsnip emachines E642G
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> snpresent: try the boot option: i8024.nopnp
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> snpresent: may help
[12:09] <snpresent> ActionParsnip i will try thank you
[12:10] <termospullo> I'm having some problems with my optimus laptop
[12:10] <termospullo> I found 310 experimental drivers from additional drivers and it broke cinnamon and pretty much everything
[12:11] <snpresent> ActionParsnip sorry ,it works ,it was my locked my touchpad,sorry for my mistake
[12:12] <Litecoin_Messiah> i have a serrver with remote kvm axx any chance i can change the root pass its in a remote location I.e datacenter?
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> Litecoin_Messiah  ask in #ubuntu-server
[12:13] <Litecoin_Messiah> ok MonkeyDust
[12:14] <monstarmike> hi, is there any way to prevent ubuntu from opening a new window ever time I plug in the same mtp device?
[12:14] <monstarmike> on 13.04
[12:15] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here ever setup ZSNES with an xbox 360 controller?
[12:18] <newsalor> ActionParsnip: it seems that just asking about the wlan thing on this channel did the trick. I didn't have time to do anything. Despite trying to fix this thing for 3 days, it just started working spontaneusly.
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: if you configure the controller in zsnes, do the inputs make events in the app.
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> newsalor: cool
[12:20] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, no. xpad was loaded, i think i have to blacklist xpad and use xboxdrv driver.
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: oh, are you using ubuntu in virtualbox?
[12:23] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, no, it's an Xubuntu 12.04.2 64bit straight on the hardware, no VM
[12:23] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, why did you think i was in a VM?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: you could get it installed. you may need to compile. misread the module so thought you'd virtualized.
[12:25] <newsalor> any ideas for the 4g usb stick thing?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> !info xboxdrv
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> newsalor: run: lsusb
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> newsalor: use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[12:28] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, ok, that was it. xpad didn't work so I had to blacklist it and install xboxdrv from the developers PPA because the bundled xboxdrv in ubuntu's repo didn't work either.
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: may help http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/xboxdrv-gui-98333.shtml
[12:30] <nik90_> ActionParsnip: apparently there is no .pulse folder in my home directly
[12:30] <nik90_> I did killall pulseaudio
[12:31] <compdoc> .pulse is hidden you realize?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> nik90_: did you run the command exactly as I gave it?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> nik90_: it needs running as I gave it
[12:32] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, i got it all sorted, just clicking set keys within ZSNES and using xboxdrv -s, now my 360 controller works great within ZSNES
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: awesome
[12:32] <Yinseng> Excuse me, we just updated our software and we seem to be having a problem I have not been able to find the proper keywords in google to get an answer for. It used to be, when we were sshed in through putty, and we maximized the window, there would be a lot more space for all the text. But now when we do so, it just creates a black area and the console size stays the same
[12:32] <Yinseng> How do I fix this?
[12:33] <gordonjcp> Yinseng: do you have more than one machine connected?
[12:33] <nik90_> ActionParsnip: I copy pasted your command. I got the error message rm: cannot remove ‘/home/krnekhelesh/.pulse*’: No such file or directory
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> yiseng: have you tried different putty configs? or setting it to maximize on connect (if the option exists)
[12:34] <Yinseng> gordonjcp: More than one person logged on the same user you mean?
[12:34] <gordonjcp> Yinseng: are you using screen?
[12:34] <Yinseng> this happens outside of screen. Just using bash.
[12:34] <newsalor> ActionParsnip: thanks a bunch!
[12:34] <gordonjcp> strange
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> nik90_: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[12:35] <Yinseng> here I will show you
[12:35] <nik90_> ActionParsnip: raring
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> newsalor: those things arent fancy, just serial modems which have been around for ages
[12:35] <Yinseng> ...okay now it suddenly stopped doing it. What.
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> nik90_: i suggest you install pulseaudio
[12:36] <Yinseng> ah, it's just not doing it on root
[12:36] <Yinseng> Ohh I see. gordonjcp: How do you fix it on screen?
[12:37] <gordonjcp> Yinseng: if you've got more than one session connected via screen, it will size to the smallest window
[12:37] <Yinseng> is there a workaround
[12:37] <gordonjcp> Yinseng: tmux does something similar but fills the remainder of your terminal with dots
[12:38] <nik90_> ActionParsnip: I apparently already have it. I tried apt-get install pulseaudio and it says pulseaudio is already the newest version.
[12:38] <anssit> Hello, im having issues with my displays.  My 23" HD display is limited to 1024x768, and my secondary screen which is connected to my processors iGPU is not being detected at all.
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> yiseng: enabling sshing as root is far from secure
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> nik90_: try starting the pulseaudio service then
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> anssit: what gpu do you use?
[12:38] <nik90_> ActionParsnip: how do I start it?
[12:39] <anssit> I have an Nvidia Geforce GTX 670, with the 304 drivers
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> nik90_: sudo service pulseaudio start
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> anssut: tried: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> anssit: or even better the 310 driver
[12:40] <nik90_> ActionParsnip: I started it. But it still shows play audio through dummy output. Should I be restarting now?
[12:40] <anssit> I have had alot of difficulty with the drivers and havent been able to install any newer ones
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> nik90_: change the sound output device
[12:41] <anssit> also nvidia-xconfig gives a validation error
[12:41] <nik90_> ActionParsnip: there aren't other sound output devices listed
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> anssit: it will as you dont have an xorg.conf file, you do now
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> nik90_: this is as good as my sound troubleshooting goes. maybe others can advise
[12:42] <nik90_> ActionParsnip: no prob. Thanks for your help :)
[12:42] <anssit> Good point. Yes, it seems I now have things when I gedit the file
[12:43] <anssit> as in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> ansisit: yes, reboot to test
[12:43] <anssit> Will do, thank you.
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> anssit: you can run: gksudo nvidia-settings and make changes, you can then click the save to x config file button
[12:46] <anssit> ActionParsnip, thank you very much, that worked.
[12:47] <anssit> But is there any advice you have on getting my other monitor (connected to the iGPU) to be detected, or installing the newer drivers from Nvidia
[12:47] <Yinseng> gordonjcp: Is there a way to get around that annoying screen problem?
[12:51] <chunkyhead> https://twitter.com/jitutawde
[12:51] <chunkyhead> wrong window lol
[12:51] <Excryption> Hello
[12:53] <earl2> hi - alt-tab by default skils the windows of each individual application (I have to pause for a long time after making a full cycle around)
[12:54] <earl2> how do I just alt-tab to the other terminal window or firefox window from the first one?
[12:55] <JoaoSantana> good day
[12:55] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys. How can I install Cinnamon without having to install *Office and Rhythmbox?
[12:55] <cfhowlett> Mayazcherquoi, cinnamon isn't supported here.
[12:55] <JoaoSantana> someone knows how to kill that kworker bug?
[12:57] <anssit> Hello,  can anyone give me advice you have on getting my other monitor (connected to the iGPU) to be detected, or installing the newer drivers from Nvidia
[13:02] <bencc> can I use lvs to separate ssl from non-ssl requests and direct them to two separate app servers?
[13:04] <Guest10867> Is it possible to resize a LVM2 partition in Ubuntu while using it? I want to resize my partition to make room for a /home partition. If other solutions that resize it, I am open for suggestions. Tahnks! :)
[13:04] <ugur> hey everyone
[13:05] <ugur> just made a cpu upgrade on my laptop asus k53ta. amd a4-3300m to a8-3500m.
[13:06] <ugur> its default speed is 1.5GHz, however it can go 2.3 GHz with turboboost or something.
[13:06] <ugur> but i can't make it work. it doesn't go further 1.5GHz.
[13:07] <ugur> and $ sudo cpufreq-aperf gives me an error
[13:07] <jpds> ugur: That's because turbo is for when it knows it's busy.
[13:07] <ugur> Error reading /dev/cpu/0/msr, load/enable msr.ko
[13:08] <Guest10867> Anyone? :)
[13:08] <ugur> yeah i know but i ve seen people can see the speed is changing
[13:08] <ugur> but i can't
[13:08] <ugur> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2118994&p=12533688#post12533688
[13:09] <ugur> so, my first problem: why do it get that error on cpufreq-aperf? Anyone knows? Googled but couldn't find anything.
[13:10] <jpds> ugur: What does cpufreq-info show?
[13:10] <ugur>   cpufreq stats: 1.50 GHz:48,72%, 1.40 GHz:0,00%, 1.20 GHz:0,00%, 1.10 GHz:0,00%, 1000 MHz:0,00%, 900 MHz:0,00%, 800 MHz:51,28%  (14)
[13:11] <qwerkus> I just installed the latest kernel (3.9rc8) for raring, and latest xorg-edgers drivers - and still no direct rendering on my radeon hd 7550
[13:11] <qwerkus> any further ideas ?
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> qwerkus: we cannot support 3rd party packages
[13:12] <Guest10867> ActionParsnip, Do you know how to resize lvm2 partitions?
[13:14] <Crosant> hi
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> guest10867: never had to. i plan my partitions
[13:15] <Crosant> does ubuntu 12.04 support the Marvell 88se9128 raid controller?
[13:16] <Guest10867> ActionParsnip:  Well usually me too. I check the LVM2 in Ubuntu install because I was curious and want it said to be easy to fix partitions with. But yesterday I remembered how good it would be to have a separate /home.
[13:20] <jamesarnett> Hey guys i just wrote a how to on installing Ubuntu 12.04 on an ARM Chromebook Check it out. http://chromebookparadise.wordpress.com/2013/05/11/how-to-arm-chromebook-ubuntu-unity-with-ubuntu-one-dual-boot/
[13:22] <sonofzeus> Hey there ,Has anyone ever installed skype on a live cd of ubuntu? Im askin coz I cant.
[13:23] <Muelli> !details | sonofzeus
[13:24] <sonofzeus> its a ubuntu 12.10 live cd
[13:24] <sonofzeus> I cant find skype in synaptic package manager.
[13:25] <DJones> !skype | sonofzeus Have you looked at this,
[13:25] <ubuntuaddicted> sonofzeus, not sure if skype is in the official repositoty
[13:25] <Guest10867> Is there anywhere else on Freenode I can ask about LVM2?
[13:26] <sonofzeus> Yes djones i've looked at that but I just cant even find a skype package.
[13:26] <sonofzeus> okay so can anyone help me?
[13:27] <samuel_> Olá
[13:27] <manowar3> sonofzeus, i think you should enabled the 'canonical partners' software sources
[13:27] <sonofzeus> I did mayn.
[13:28] <sonofzeus> Anyone?
[13:29] <spatz> german or english speaking?
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> sonofzeus  in a live session, the partner repo is not available -- skype is in the partner repo
[13:29] <sonofzeus> Ah kay thanks
[13:30] <CarlFK> MonkeyDust:  sonofzeus could add it, right?
[13:30] <spatz> is there any channel, that has a community with support to flash-related problems?
[13:30] <Kvasir> Hi there, I was wondering if there was a correct way to change the default terminal?
[13:31] <spatz> ??
[13:32] <erraneous> Changing it so I when I use the hotkeys "^-ALT-T" it opens urxvt instead of the usual?
[13:32] <DJones> spatz: The channel is English language only, there is #ubuntu-de for german language, ask your question, thats probably the best thing to do
[13:33] <spatz> thx
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> !de
[13:35] <TaZeR> yo i love fucking ubuntu man!!
[13:35] <TaZeR> it hasnt crahed once like windows always did andd its faster too
[13:36] <DJones> TaZeR: We appreciate your enthusiasism, but please don't use foul language, the channel is kept family friendly
[13:36] <TaZeR> oh yea ubuntu is fun for the whole family!
[13:37] <TaZeR> when my daughter asks for an ipad or windows 8 ultrabook im going to say sweetheart your getting something even better a large desktop that runs ubuntu!
[13:39] <Guest10867> TaZeR:  You kidding, right? :D
[13:39] <TaZeR> of course not
[13:39] <Guest10867> TaZeR:  Why not a Ultrabook WITH Ubuntu?
[13:39] <melodie> hello
[13:39] <TaZeR> those things are flimsy she will break it within a week
[13:39] <TaZeR> one drop and its over
[13:40] <NikP> Hi!
[13:40] <th0r> please don't feed the troll
[13:40] <melodie> in the paste weeks I have noticed many people interested in finding programs to manager internet cafe, and I have been interested too : I have found the most recent code still available, a bit hard to get it to work. with some help this has been done using svn sources; I have put up an Ubuntu Openbox version with Mkahawa svn 54 installed in it
[13:41] <melodie> you can read about it here:
[13:41] <thecodeischaos> im running ubuntuStudio on an MSI wind i got for £100
[13:41] <thecodeischaos> works nicely enough. unless i try to do anything video or 3d
[13:41] <melodie> Mkahawa internet cafe manager - http://beta.linuxvillage.net/index.php/topic,333.0.html
[13:41] <melodie> and get it here:
[13:41] <melodie> http://tyruiop.eu/~melodie/Downloads/ISOS/Ubuntu
[13:42] <melodie> I didn't yet make screenshots but this is what it looks like:
[13:42] <erraneous> I'm running ubuntu on the Macbook 1,1. I swear I tried every distro under the sun! Only one I could get to work properly!
[13:42] <melodie> http://meets.free.fr/Downloads/debian/images/bento2-mini-4-i386.12.04.png
[13:43] <TaZeR> whats that?
[13:44] <melodie> TaZeR this is this kind of setup: Bento2 - OBUbuntu Remix presentation - http://beta.linuxvillage.net/index.php/topic,248.0.html and this one:
[13:44] <melodie> Bento 2 mini - http://beta.linuxvillage.net/index.php/topic,297.0.html
[13:44] <BluesKaj_> hey folks
[13:44] <melodie> but this time I have installed the product of compilations in the smaller and lighter version
[13:44] <TaZeR> oh i see
[13:44] <spatz> does anyone knows, if there is a problem with formular-fields in the falsh-player?
[13:45] <TaZeR> im satisfied with 12.04's classic gnome
[13:46] <melodie> TaZeR as long as you are happy this it ok for me
[13:46] <melodie> I am just spreading an information
[13:47] <DrZaius_> how can i tell what legacy nvidia drivers do i have to install?
[13:48] <loconut> hello, I have a VM I'm going to be making an image of and copying to a few people here. I have removed the primary user's password and I can login with no password and sudo with no password, but ssh is still saying denied despite changing the empty password setting to yes and restarting ssh and then rebooting.
[13:48] <uponatree> Hey guys, I've got a software RIAD0 wth some unallocated free space in front of both partitions. How can I grow the RAID to it's maximum size. Do I have to move the unallocated space behind the RAID partitions?
[13:48] <loconut> any idea why that would be still denying me?
[13:48] <TaZeR> how can i tell what legacy nvidia drivers do i have to install?
[13:48] <TaZeR> oops sorry
[13:48] <DrZaius_> TaZeR: it seems you have the exact same problem
[13:50] <TaZeR> drzaius_ have u tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[13:50] <TaZeR> i dont have the same problem i just copied your message while highlighting it by mistake
[13:50] <DrZaius_> kinda... i dont seem to be able to launch jockey
[13:50] <yofun> is there a command for removeing bad sources? (apt-get)
[13:51] <DrZaius_> hows the binary called now?
[13:51] <DrZaius_> TaZeR: i know ;)
[13:51] <yofun> is there a command for removeing all  bad sources? (apt-get)
[13:51] <DrZaius_> yofun: no... you have to do it manually
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> yofun  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[13:52] <zeus> hello people. i want to know a simple question , iam migrating the server from 10.04 to 12.04 and another computer, i need to copy files preserving ownership and modes via network, so i mounted the old filesistem via sshfs in the new one, using ls -o in the mounted folder shows all atributes correct, but when i copy them with cp -p atributes are lost and modes are incorrect
[13:52] <TaZeR> apt-get autoclean i believe
[13:52] <yofun> alirghtlanua
[13:52] <zeus> is there any way to copy this files so i can preserve their atributes? thanks
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> zeus  use rsync -a
[13:52] <DrZaius_> nothing whill remove entries from apt-sources that goes 404
[13:52] <zeus> ok, ill try
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> zeus  -a means archive, to preserve all the attributes
[13:53] <spatz> does anyone knows, if there is a problem with text boxes in the falsh-player?
[13:53] <LFS> I'm wondering how to grab a copy -for later usage- of the installed ubuntu packages while being installed either from download center or using apt-get!
[13:54] <th0r> LFS, aptoncd
[13:54] <yofun> does anyone know that happened to the youtube controller in the systray (ubuntu 12.10 to ubuntu 13.04)
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> LFS  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5654569/
[13:54] <LFS> man aptoncd didn't give me anything!
[13:55] <th0r> LFS, it is a gui program. Install it and run it
, sorry was afk. What do you mean by 3rd party package ?
[13:56] <LFS> cool .. thanks
[13:56] <loconut> was nullok issue
[13:56] <loconut> not documented / findable by google
[13:56] <loconut> gr.
[13:57] <budotz> is there a way to execute a command ..say wipe a usb once it automounts in ubuntu?
[13:58] <qwerkus> I just installed the latest kernel (3.9rc8) for raring, and latest xorg-edgers drivers - and still no direct rendering on my radeon hd 7550; any further ideas ?
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> budotz  ask in #bash
[13:59] <th0r> budotz, you should be able to use wip
[13:59] <th0r> budotz, oops...wipe
[13:59] <budotz> yeah i know that already :) but i wanted it to be auto executed maybe by autofs?
[14:00] <budotz> im using ubuntu thats why im asking here MonkeyDust
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> budotz  maybe the #bash peope have a script to do it
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> people*
[14:00] <tux30> ubuntu lts is for do a server??
[14:00] <th0r> MonkeyDust, the script isn't the issue...how to get it to autoexecute on plugin
[14:01] <uponatree> ey guys, I've got a software RIAD0 wth some unallocated free space in front of both partitions. How can I grow the RAID to it's maximum size. Do I have to move the unallocated space behind the RAID partitions?
[14:01] <yofun> does anyone know that happened to the youtube controller in the systray (ubuntu 12.10 to ubuntu 13.04)
[14:01] <anon1> what's the bash question?
, lts is for long term support; means you wont have to upgrade all the time, and still get fixes for your software.
[14:02] <chunkyhead> i cant click on the camera flash options which come up on websites. help!
[14:02] <qwerkus> threre is a specific server edition now iirc: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[14:02] <qwerkus> but you can build your own server with any ubuntu version
[14:03] <yofun> does anyone know that happened to the youtube controller in the systray (ubuntu 12.10 to ubuntu 13.04) >?
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> yofun  youtube controller in systray?
[14:04] <yofun> MonkeyDust:  a simple play/stop button for the current youtube video playing
[14:04] <yofun> in the sound icon
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> yofun  never seen it, how did you install it?
[14:05] <yofun> MonkeyDust:  thats the thing i dont rember ;( i think it was installed via the youtube webapp
[14:05] <treetreetr33> you installed it when you visited youtube
[14:05] <treetreetr33> it asked if you wanted it installed
[14:06] <yofun> ya
[14:06] <treetreetr33> bam, you installed it
[14:06] <yofun> i installed the app on ubuntu 12.04 but it doenst have the systray controller
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> yofun: what app?
[14:07] <yofun> youtube web appp
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> yofun: do you mean minitube?
[14:08] <yofun> no
[14:08] <megamanx1978> I keep getting a "Keyring Locked" message at startup how do I stop that
[14:08] <yofun> i just tryed that a min ago but it doesnt have a systray controller
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> megamanx1978: set a blank keyring password
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> yofun  you just asked what happened to something nobody has ever heard of
[14:09] <yofun> oh
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> megamanx1978: you use autologin, right?
[14:09] <yofun> hmmm
[14:09] <megamanx1978> yes
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> yofun: can you find a screenshot or link online etc?
[14:09] <yofun> sure
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> megamanx1978: it causes that
[14:10] <megamanx1978> So if I leave it blank it will stop?
[14:10] <wuch_> megamanx1978: by default keyring is unlocked using the same password you entered when logging in
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> ahhh
[14:11] <wuch_> so if you have autologin, the keyring can not be unlocked
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> !info unity-webapps-youtube
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> wuch_: it doesnt auto unlock, unlike proper logins
[14:11] <LFS> hey th0r ... this aptoncd is fucking great
[14:11] <LFS> it takes the already installed apps and repackage them
[14:12] <LFS> thanks dude
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> wuch_: but hey, if you use autologin, i dont see security being too high on your agenda :-)
[14:12] <th0r> LFS, if you are really grateful...dump the smut
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> megamanx1978: yes, reset the password but leave it blank. not even a space
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> yofun: i thought that stuff stayed in Dash...?
[14:13] <anon1> LFS: that does sound handy
[14:13] <yofun> im looking for ity
[14:13] <yofun> it*
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> yofun  apparentally, your question is not for this channel
[14:14] <megamanx1978> Reset the password with this command? sudo passwd username
[14:14] <yofun> how so?
[14:15] <megamanx1978> Btw the youtube web app is called minitube
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> yofun: looks like weird functionality. What is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[14:16] <LFS> nah I'm not really grateful .. just kidding :D
[14:16] <LFS> chees
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> monkeydust: how so? the app is in the official repos....
[14:16] <yofun> raring
[14:17] <yofun> raring
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> megamanx1978: unity-webapp-youtube is the package name
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> yofun: are there any bugs reported?
[14:17] <yofun> bugs for what?
[14:17] <megamanx1978> How do I reset the password like this? sudo passwd username
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> yofun: the package....what else?
[14:18] <yofun> meh idk what package it is
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> megamanx1978: the keyring pass is stored different to login pass
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> yofun: ive said it about 3 times....
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> yofun: unity-webapp-youtube
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> yofun: not ringing any bells?
[14:19] <yofun> let me look
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> monkeydust: how is the package not supported here?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> yofun: didnt you see me type that all those times before?
[14:20] <yofun> E: Unable to locate package unity-webapp-youtube
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> !info unity-webapps-youtube | yofun need 100% spoonfeeding huh
[14:21] <yofun> hmmm how do i add the sources again?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> yofun: use software centre
[14:23] <megamanx1978> ActionParsnip Thank you I will try that
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> yofun: does the app show in the menu?
[14:24] <yofun> yep its already installed
[14:24] <b0x> hey just considering installing ubuntu on my pc to use for web development - should i go with the deskop version or server?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> yofun: for the record, its a really weird way to control youtube. the controls are in the middle of the scren, why do you want to use a menu to control what is in front of your face?
[14:25] <yofun> rhythmbox-plugin-webmenu might be useful
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> b0x: if you want gui apps, desktop
[14:25] <yofun> to stop the music etc when another window
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> yofun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/webapps-applications/+bug/1068388
[14:26] <yofun> hmmm
[14:26] <yofun> im not useing html5
[14:26] <b0x> ActionParsnip: right, i'll go with desktop then
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> yofun: i suggest you report a bug
[14:27] <b0x> ok, and in regards to the version
[14:28] <b0x> LTS or not.. i enjoy bleeding edge stuff but would prefer stablity & maximum compatibility (especially when moving from windows)
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> b0x: then Raring or even Saucy (which is prerelease) will have the latest stuff
[14:29] <b0x> raring being v 13.04?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> b0x: LTS gives greater stabilityand longest support
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> b0x: raring is 13.04
[14:29] <b0x> right.
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> b0x: precise is 12.04 and LTS. Saucy is 12.10 and is very unstable
[14:30] <b0x> and in regards to update schedule/process.. ie if i get 13.04, would updating to future versions be possible?
[14:30] <th0r> ActionParsnip, 13.10?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> th0r: yes
[14:31] <b0x> from 13.04 to 13.10 for example
[14:31] <b0x> (when stablised)
[14:31] <silv3r_m00n>  i am running this command, update-rc.d apache2 defaults  and it says insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `apache2' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5).
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> b0x: 13.10 is Saucy, sorry. not intended for casual use
[14:31] <silv3r_m00n> how to fix
[14:31] <riqdiiz>  Hi Allen  Can content in sdcard formatted with ntfs be played on music systems ie hi fi?
[14:32] <megamanx1978> When I leave the keyring blank it says the login is incorrect
[14:32] <b0x> so thered be no upgrade path from 12.x to 13.x?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> riqdiiz: how is that ubuntu related?
[14:32] <yofun> ActionParsnip:  are you saying there is a controller for ubuntu 13.04?>
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> yofun: youtube controller you mean?
[14:33] <yofun> play and stop button for current video playing
[14:33] <yofun> in the systray sound icon
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> b0x: yes you will need to upgrade to each successive release in turn
[14:33] <riqdiiz> ActionParsnip: filesys
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> yofun: no idea, maybe there is a ppa with a newer version
[14:34] <yofun> alright
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> riqdiiz: ntfs is proprietary to windows
[14:35] <b0x> ActionParsnip: but is there an upgrade path, rather than full install? ie if i were to install 12.04 now, can i just 'upgrade' to 13.04?
[14:35] <b0x> or any other future verions
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> b0x: you would need to upgrade to 12.10 first then to 13.04
[14:35] <b0x> or is it restricted to the major version? ie 12.04 only to 12.x, 13.04 to 13.x etc
[14:36] <b0x> ah right
[14:36] <riqdiiz> I tend to think Ubuntu is the overall.
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> b0x  you can upgrade directly rom lts to lts
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> b0x: if you stay on 12.04 you can upgrade direct to 14.04 when it is released as it is LTS to LTS
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> from*
[14:36] <b0x> and finally, as a first time (regular) user, would u suggest 12.04 or 13.04?
[14:36] <sectrix> 12*
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> b0x  12.04 if you want long support, 13.04 if you want the latest stuff
[14:37] <sectrix> oops
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> riqdiiz: your issue is nothing to do with ubuntu. you need to contact the manufacturer of the device you want to use the storage in
[14:37] <sectrix> srorry
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> b0x: regular users imho should stick on LTS
[14:38] <riqdiiz> Ok thanks ActionParsnip
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> if you have very new hardware however.. the latest release may be a better idea
[14:39] <b0x> "latest stuff" worth having? just more shinier interface or..?
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> b0x:  newer versions of most all the apps.. depends on what work you do.
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> b0x:  some people feel they must be using for example gnome 3.8 or whatever. that would  require 13.04
[14:40] <ugur> hey people. my amd a8-3500m doesn't overclock itself (turbo boost). how can i make it work?
[14:40] <mark___> hello, is there anyone online who can help?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> !ask | mark___
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> mark___:  ask a support question and see.
[14:40] <anon1> !ask | mark___
[14:40] <anon1> !patience
[14:41]  * Dr_Willis wonders why his SD card which is /dev/sde1  is mounting to /media/cdrom   ;)
[14:41] <mark___> !patience
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: fstab? device label?
[14:41] <b0x> Dr_Willis: im a web developer
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> mark___  your question being...?
[14:42] <b0x> so, its more so ive got a reliable lamp stack
[14:42] <Runemoro> Hi, when I type X -configure I get: "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices."
[14:42] <Runemoro> Can anyone help me?
[14:42] <b0x> thats the same/similar to production servers
[14:42] <b0x> rather than dealing with windows
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> b0x: id go with precise
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  its got a UUID.. no label. Its my 'rasbian' sd card image. so its even ext3
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> runemoro: try it in root recovery mode
[14:43] <Runemoro> ActionParsnip: Ok
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: try a label :-)
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> 'web developer' is still a broad topic ;)
[14:43] <Runemoro> ActionParsnip: Also, it seems like it's booting in failsafe mode
[14:43] <mark___> i have a lenovo think pad edge 14. I really like the official driver from lenovo, so i'm trying to find an equivalent for ubuntu, where should i look? google doesnt help, and i ended up here
[14:43] <lon420> 你们怎么都用英文呢
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[14:44] <T|ASK> HI is it possible to get a dark Ubuntu Softwarecenter?
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> mark___:  official driver for what device?
[14:44] <Muelli> !anyone | mark___
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> T|ASK:  theres numerous dark themes out for unity/gnome-shell. but they always seem to goof up in one way or another.
[14:45] <mark___> Dr_Willis: Lenovo Thinkpad Edge 14, serial 0578-AD8
[14:45] <T|ASK> Dr_Willis: They don't seem to affect the Softcenter
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> T|ASK  try changing the theme to something dark
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> mark___:  drivers are for specific hardware on the pc.. so what device are you trying to use these 'official' drivers for?
[14:46] <T|ASK> The SoftCenter background doen't change for me and you?
[14:46] <Randomguy> i'm runnig virtual machine 4.1.12 on my ubuntu 12.04. The guest system is Windows Xp professional. Now my problem is that i cannot change the resolution it sticks to 800x600. I wish to get a 16:9 resolution. I already installed guest additions but this changes nothing. When my virtul machine is running there is no menu on the top. I had to install guest additions manually. I do not know what is worng where. Could you help me out ple
[14:47] <b0xa> ok
[14:47] <b0xa> going with LTS
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> mark___: driver for what?
[14:47] <b0xa> thanks for your help guys
[14:47] <mark___> Dr_Willis: the touchpad
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> randomguy: ask in #vbox
[14:48] <T|ASK> Another issue I have. A friend wantsto play Steam Games with his Radeon 4580 with 13.04. Is the right way to use the PPA ppa:makson96/fglrx to get the latest AMD driver running?
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> netlar: any more luck with booting your hd?
[14:49] <netlar> lotuspsychje: nope, I need some pointers
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> mark___: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_10.04_(Lucid_Lynx)_on_a_ThinkPad_Edge_14%22_(Intel)
[14:49] <Runemoro> ActionParsnip: same error
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> netlar: did you get same login freeze?
[14:50] <netlar> lotuspsychje: I was able to correct that in  the Grub recovery mode
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> t|ask: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> netlar: so what do you need to be fixed now?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> runemoro: what gpu do you useñ
[14:51] <andre> hi peeps
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> andre: wb
[14:51] <andre> Thanks :)
[14:51] <Runemoro> ActionParsnip: How do I check?
[14:51] <Runemoro> ActionParsnip: I forgot
[14:51] <andre> is there a guru out there
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> !ask | andre
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> runemoro: lspci | grep -i vga
[14:51] <Gnea_> andre: just ask your question
[14:52] <netlar> lotuspsychje: first how can i prevent the messages of people leaving and coming into the channel?
[14:52] <brainwash> netlar, still the same problem with slow boot?
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> netlar: on what irc client?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> netlar: which client?
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> netlar  depends on the client you're using
[14:52] <Runemoro> ActionParsnip: Intel
[14:52] <netlar> Pidgin
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> alota gurus in da house :p
[14:53] <andre> my raring tail ubuntu is giving driver probs on my lap Q1532N Gigabyte laptop.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> netlar: main window, tools -> plugins
[14:53] <andre> with nvidia gf gt520m
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> netlar: enable the block join/part plugin
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> netlar:  pidgin is not really the optimal irc client for large rooms. ;) you may want to check out other irc specific clients
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> andre: seems to be a sandy bridge cpu which has an intel gpu too. look into bumblebee
[14:55] <andre> NOOOOOOO
[14:55] <netlar> ActionParsnip: I do not see that in plugins
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> dr_eiklis: never had a problem in all my years in linux
[14:55] <andre> bumblebee bomb out on me.
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> netlar: read the names, something will look right. The window may scroll
[14:56] <Gnea> andre: hmm, can't seem to find the Q1532N on gigabyte's website
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> andre: its what you need to support the optimus garbage in your system
[14:56] <danlamanna> silly, frustrating issue here. I have terminal bound to Ctrl+Alt+T and no matter where my cursor is it always opens on the left monitor
[14:56] <danlamanna> anyway I can always get it to show up where my cursor is?
[14:56] <andre> how do i uninstall all nvidia drivers files folders so that i can start over
[14:56] <danlamanna> (using mate)
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> gnea: http://www.gigabyte.co.za/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3940#sp
[14:57] <netlar> ok got it
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> andre: use software centre but leave nvidia-common installed
[14:57] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: nice, they seem to have a #fail going on: http://www.gigabyte.us/support-downloads/download-center.aspx?kw=Q1532N
[14:57] <T|ASK> ActionParsnip: Tahnk you, that's the PPa I mentioned. I'm just a bit uncertain that these are the only steps I have to take. I had much trouble with manually installing AMD drivers with 12.04...
[14:57] <netlar> lotuspsychje: think I need a lesson on mounting and umount
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> netlar: on the disk tools you can unmount before formatting your external hd
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> t|ask: yeah they can be "fun"
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> !mount | netlar
[14:59] <netlar> I see the external hd at '/media/portable hd', is that considered the mount point?
[14:59] <Gnea> andre: did you install bumblebee from the repository?
[15:00] <T|ASK> ActionParsnip: but this PPA is working well? In general?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> netlar: yes, you can use gparted to unmount the partition
[15:00] <andre> Gnea yip i did that before
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> t|ask: of what i have seen, yes
[15:00] <andre> its like my 6th time installing this
[15:00] <Gnea> andre: where are you seeing the error?
[15:00] <T|ASK> ActionParsnip: great :)
[15:00] <netlar> ok, I unmounted the drive, but I get an error formatting disk
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> optimus is such a cludge
[15:01] <netlar> 'Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)'
[15:01] <Gnea> andre: I mean, is it in a terminal window or...?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> netlar: what error?
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: netlar had issues with boot freeze at login with his external hd attached
[15:01] <netlar> what does that error mean
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: so i recommended a fresh format for his ntfs drive
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> netlar: is there a nautilus open in the mount point, or a terminal with its pwd in the mount point
[15:02] <andre> small screen size and my side bars are gone and when saying nvidia-settings tuns me that i need to run nvidia-xconfig when i do it restart nothing still nothing :((((((((((((((((((
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: sounds good
[15:03] <netlar> ActionParsnip: well I unmounted in the disk utility
[15:03] <andre> Gnea, http://www.gigabyte.co.za/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4227
[15:03] <Gnea> andre: okay, have you rebooted?
[15:03] <andre> yip
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> netlar: if it is ntfs and you want it to be ntfs then format it in windows and eject it properly. it should then be ok
[15:03] <iDrofox> hello, i have a problem my ubuntu didn't shutdown it just stuck at logo ?
[15:03] <andre> Gnea, yip i did
[15:03] <Gnea> andre: yes, thank you, I got that
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> idrofox: if you run: sudo shutdown -h now
[15:04] <andre> Gnea, sorry my bad
[15:04] <netlar> well it is FAT32
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> idrofox: does it turn off ok?
[15:04] <yofun> err
[15:04] <iDrofox> ActionParsnip:  i will try it now!
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> netlar: ok, fat32 is fine
[15:05] <yofun> how do i do screen shots on a toshiba keyboard?
[15:05] <netlar> And I forgot who told me to check my boot sequence, sorry, but I check that and the external drive was not on the list.  I checked that for the slow boot times
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> netlar: if you run: mount
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> is it unmounted?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> oh jeez sorry
[15:06] <BluesKaj> yofun, press the prtscn key
[15:06] <netlar> I have mounted it again
[15:06] <Gnea> ugh, why can't howtogeek.com have the date printed on the articles?
[15:06] <netlar> I am going to try to reboot now, I will be back
[15:07] <andre> Gnea, yeah i asked that same ?
[15:07] <Gnea> andre: try this : http://www.howtogeek.com/124685/how-to-make-nvidias-optimus-work-on-linux/ ?
[15:07] <yofun> grrr it wont take screen shots when i have the sound icon on systray seltected
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> gnea: it does http://www.howtogeek.com/163080/rain-wallpaper-collection-for-your-nexus-7-tablet-series-1/  2nd line has the date....
[15:09] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: oh, you're right... I see it now at the bottom... ugh
[15:09] <WXZ> no such device: %UUID, grub_rescue> what does this mean?
[15:10] <Gnea> andre: anyway, that article seems recent, so give it a try
[15:11] <iDrofox> I tried using "sudo shutdown -h now", it went to logoff screen but stuck there forever with five dots progress bar keep running...
[15:11] <netlar> Still the same long boot ups
[15:12] <Gnea> andre: also, this may have a few good tips: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1657660
[15:12] <iDrofox> lol i forget who was assting me before i left ?
[15:14] <netlar> Maybe the hd is just not compatable
[15:14] <andre> Gnea, thanks for your help
[15:14] <andre> will try this
[15:16] <BluesKaj> netlar, 99.99999% of drives are compatible , the external drive doesn't have to be in the bootsequence unless it has an OS installed
[15:16] <yofun> ActionParsnip:  http://i43.tinypic.com/96c8hs.png it seems to only work for playlists
[15:16] <netlar> BluesKaj: I check that, it is not in the boot sequence
[15:17] <BluesKaj> netlar, is it used just for storage with no OS?
[15:17] <netlar> BluesKaj: yes, just storage
[15:18] <kaermet> Hi all! i have a problem with my dual boot configuration. Grub would not recognize my Win7 Installation, so i added it manually. Now i get the err: hd1 cannot get c/h/s values. Anyone knows whats wrong here?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> it should show up in the file manager , places
[15:18] <BluesKaj> netlar,^
[15:18] <netlar> BluesKaj: yes it does
[15:19] <netlar> BluesKaj: there is not problem with plugging it in and using it, it is just affecting the boot ups
[15:19] <cellardoor> Hi all. Just gone to 13.04 and now my Bluetooth headset isn't working. Tried everything I can think of but "Stream setup failed" is always the response Blueman gives.. any suggestions?
[15:19] <kaermet> bootinfoscript gives http://paste.debian.net/plain/3600
[15:20] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[15:20] <BluesKaj> ok netlar , guess I missed something
[15:20] <ShapeShifter499> on xchat one of my plugins does not auto reload when the application is restarted, any ideas?
[15:20] <netlar> lotuspsychje: you know it will not reformat either
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> yofun: id add that to your bug then  ;-)
[15:21] <yofun> ActionParsnip:  what if its not a bug?
[15:21] <yofun> ActionParsnip:  maybe its a feature that needs to be requested to work on all videos not just playlists
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> yofun: then you'll just have to use it in playlists and acceptvthat single videos are not usable using that app
[15:22] <yofun> alrght
[15:22] <yofun> i can acccept that
[15:22] <yofun> better then nothing
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> ofun: but still report it, if that is intended to be an ability then it is missing
[15:23] <BluesKaj> netlar, do you have the drive entered in /etc/fstab ?
[15:23] <yofun> ActionParsnip:  where would i report it?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> yofun: run: ubuntu-bug unity-apps-youtube
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> yofun: or whatever the package name is
[15:24] <yofun> ...it says it doesnt exist when it does
[15:25] <netlar> BluesKaj: the drive is mounted at /media/portable hd
[15:25] <yofun> oh webapps
[15:26] <iDrofox> hello, it looks like my ubuntu 13.04 speec dispatcher is causing my ubuntu to stuck at shutdown screen >
[15:27] <ShapeShifter499> NET SPLIT?
[15:27] <ShapeShifter499> whoo
[15:28] <netlar> BluesKaj: sorry, do you mean I should have an entry in fstab file for the external drive?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> netlar, yes , for example , this my external drive entry, UUID=4b38b3eb-e7aa-4369-a645-3736f7edcecc /media/External ext4     defaults       0       1
[15:30] <adfer> eu queria saber como fasso pra atualizar o ubuntu para 13.04
[15:31] <netlar> BluesKaj: it is not there, do I need to make an entry?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> netlar, i will help
[15:31] <BluesKaj> it will
[15:31] <adfer> sim
[15:31] <netlar> BluesKaj: would that help with the boot ups?
[15:31] <IdleOne> !br | adfer
[15:31] <BluesKaj> netlar, yes
[15:32] <isdangagamay> will shred -v -n3 -z /dev/sdb* erase anything that is mounted in /dev/sdb?
[15:32] <netlar> BluesKaj: where do I get that info, so I can enter it in?
[15:32] <isdangagamay> wanted to erase anything mounted in usb
[15:32] <yofun> ActionParsnip:  how long does it take to collect the info?
[15:33] <exad> /dev/sdb is the device but its not the mount point
[15:33] <BluesKaj> netlar, run sudo fdisk -l , to find your /dev/sdX asigned to the drive , then blkid to get the UUID  for the fstab entry
[15:34] <iDrofox> how to know what is causing my ubuntu to not shutdown ?
[15:34] <exad> iDrofox does it reboot instead?
[15:34] <iDrofox> exad: no it's just stuck at logoff screen forever
[15:35] <exad> oh i only asked cuz my ubuntu always reboots when i shut down lol
[15:35] <iDrofox> exad: i think it's due to my speech dispatcher...i am using ubuntu 13.04
[15:35] <exad> also not sure why
[15:36] <iDrofox> i don't know what to look in system logs lol
[15:37] <netlar> BluesKaj: ok found it, but when I ran blkid, it shows noting on screen
[15:37] <Halite> ...
[15:38] <BluesKaj> sudo blkid, netlar , sorry
[15:38] <brainwash> netlar, sudo blkid?
[15:38] <Halite> When my Windows installation was standardly 32-bit - I assumed my system was 32-bit - but then Wubi installed a working Ubuntu 64-bit.
[15:39] <T|ASK> I installed the ATI PPA from https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx with Gnome. The Gnome Shell Search overlay is broken. Any Idea how to fix this?
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> T|ASK  contact the maintainer of the ppa, it's not supported
[15:40] <T|ASK> It's only if I opne the Gnome Activities
[15:40] <T|ASK> MonkeyDust: I though maybe someone else had this issue
[15:40] <netlar> ok got it
[15:41] <iDrofox> i tried using "sudo  service lightdm restart" but it stucks after "checking battery status[ok]"...i am using ubuntu 13.04 any more solution ?
[15:44] <gmy> :/list
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> !list > gmy
[15:47] <ishanix> Linux is gay
[15:47] <ishanix> i mean
[15:47] <ishanix> observe linus torvalds
[15:48] <ishanix> not i am calling you linus torvalds
[15:48] <ishanix> i mean real linus torvalds
[15:48] <ishanix> he is a homo sexual
[15:48] <ishanix> or as i like to say
[15:48] <ishanix> aberrant sexual
[15:48] <ishanix> he is faggot
[15:48] <ishanix> he is faggot
[15:48] <ishanix> he is faggot
[15:48] <ishanix> he iis gay
[15:48] <ishanix> he iis gay
[15:48] <ishanix> he iis gay
[15:48] <netlar> BluesKaj: not sure what to put for the defaults entry
[15:48] <ishanix> and he is a cunt
[15:48] <ishanix> and he is a cunt
[15:48] <ishanix> and he is a cunt
[15:48] <ishanix> and he is a cunt
[15:48] <ishanix> LOL
[15:48] <ishanix> LOL
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> teenagers...
[15:50] <BluesKaj> netlar, look at the example I posted previously , and adapt your "/media/External" to what your externa drive shows as in nautlius places
[15:51] <netlar> got that part, but where do I come up with the defaults part
[15:51] <kvarley> Windows 8 Laptop with SecureBoot disabled, Intel SRT disabled, FastBoot disabled in Win 8 - Ubuntu loads the grub screen but when I pick try ubuntu or another option it doesn't boot the usb installer. what can I do?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> netlar, and of course the dives filesystem format ext4 or ntfs or fat etc
[15:52] <Osmodivs> Hello. Installed Bodhi Linux 32 bits and it sucked, so I decided to go back to ubuntu, I had 10.04 previously installed. This time I burned the 13.04 ISO, works good in other PCs, but NOW I cant boot to my CD'ROM, (USB is no option in BIOS) weird thing is, Bodhi lIVEcd can boot but not ubuntu, I even burned the alternative version Just in case a DVD issue was the issue, and still, no boot, Whats wrong with this new Uubuntu_?
[15:52] <netlar> BluesKaj: yes, got that too, but you also listed a defaults part, what do I put there
[15:52] <BluesKaj> just type defaults in the entry and separate the them with the space key, netlar
[15:53] <iDrofox> how do i know what error is causing my ubuntu to not shutdown ??
[15:53] <netlar> do i put 'defaults 0 1' ?
[15:54] <iDrofox> ok, how do i view logs releated to shutdown ?
[15:55] <netlar> BluesKaj: so just put 'defaults 0 1' ?
[15:55] <isdangagamay> any ubuntu docs that is available related to udev rules that deletes any contents to any usb when inserted?
[15:56] <aaron_> does anybody knows how to disable backlight keyboard in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> halite: you can run 32bit OS on most 64bit CPUs
[15:56] <mchlbhm> How could I tell if my poor wifi connection (logs me on and off) is my clearbox or ubuntu 12.04?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> netlar,  yes with 'spaces'
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> mchlbhm: run: dmesg | tail
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> mchlbhm: may give clues
[15:57] <mchlbhm> ActionParsnip, will do
[15:57] <netlar> BluesKaj: here is my entry  # iOmega external HD on /dev/sdb1
[15:57] <netlar> UUID=3D3D-1317 '/media/PORTABLE HD' vfat
[15:57] <netlar> defaults 0 1
[15:57] <KYLEtheBAKER> How can I see which driver X server is using for display? I'm not sure how to do it without there being an xorg.conf anymore
[15:58] <gerhard> Hi, I'm upgrading from LTS 2 precise. That upgrade failed. Now I'm upgrading from another precise on the same computer. I chrooted into that lucid computer that  failed upgrade. Now I'm missing pty /dev/pts. How to provide that in chroot?
[15:59] <mchlbhm> ActionParsnip, Yay! I have no idea what it means. Could you point me to a website so I could learn?
[15:59] <iDrofox> where do ubuntu store it's shutdown logs ??
[15:59] <aaron_> does anybody knows how to disable backlight keyboard in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit?
[15:59] <gerhard> last maybe
[16:00] <BluesKaj> netlar, ok , butr no need for the single quotes
[16:00] <brainwash> KYLEtheBAKER, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:00] <netlar> BluesKaj: I just thought since there is a space
[16:00] <KYLEtheBAKER> I'm trying to make sure my graphics card is being fully supported, I'm unable to run games that my card supports. I've confirmed that the kernal driver is correct but im unsure about the X driver
[16:00] <isdangagamay> oh wow. is it really that hard to delete the contents of 'any' usb storage if inserted?
[16:00] <isdangagamay> i dont intend to identify it as lots of usb's will be inserted
[16:01] <Osmodivs> Hello. Installed Bodhi Linux 32 bits and it sucked, so I decided to go back to ubuntu, I had 10.04 previously installed. This time I burned the 13.04 ISO, works good in other PCs, but NOW I cant boot to my CD'ROM, (USB is no option in BIOS) weird thing is, Bodhi lIVEcd can boot but not ubuntu, I even burned the alternative version Just in case a DVD issue was the issue, and still, no boot, Whats wrong with this new Uubuntu_?
[16:01] <mchlbhm> ActionParsnip, Nevermind. I googled it. Thank you for your time and help. :D
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> Osmodivs  type /join #bodhilinux
[16:02] <WXZ> I had two OSes installed, but I removed a harddrive, how do I fix grub now?
[16:02] <Osmodivs> MonkeyDust, The issue here is I want to install UBUNTU 13.04 but does not boot to CD
[16:04] <iDrofox> what are main changes in ubuntu 13.10 as compared to ubuntu 13.04 ?
[16:04] <onborad> UEFI load net driver like realtek and mavell ,when UEFI exec grub.efi ,grub2 will hang at loading vmlinuz and initrd.img finsh ?any idea
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> Osmodivs  where did you get the iso? have you  !md5 checked it?
[16:04] <KYLEtheBAKER> brainwash, thanks. is there a way to change the graphics settings? I know I can create and xorg.conf that will take precedence over the config its using, but I'd like to find the actual config fil
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> osmodivs: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded?
[16:05] <brainwash> KYLEtheBAKER, isn't xorg.conf the actual config file?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> kylethebaker: there is no config file, it is detected by udev
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> iDrofox  i guess you mean, what's new in 13.04 as opposed to 12.10 http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail-review-7000014497/
[16:06] <KYLEtheBAKER> brainwash, I think they ditched xorg.conf and now ubuntu is using configs from /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/ but I can't find my graphics settings, only touchpad stuff
[16:06] <brainwash> KYLEtheBAKER, it's managed by KMS, but you can always create a xorg.conf if you want
[16:07] <iDrofox> MonkeyDust: my bad i did not know that ubuntu 13.10 is not released!...Nvm do you know where to find shutdown logs in ubuntu 13.04 ?
[16:07] <KYLEtheBAKER> ActionParsnip, hmm, okay. is there a way to change udev's behavior? In my xorg log it it trying to load several video drivers that aren't right for my card
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> iDrofox  .10 means: the 10th month, october
[16:07] <aaron_> does anybody knows how to disable backlight keyboard?
[16:07] <iDrofox> MonkeyDust: ok thanks for telling i didn't know it....
[16:08] <brainwash> KYLEtheBAKER, blacklist these modules?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: what make and model does the system have?
[16:08] <nascentmind> Hi. How should I edit the fstab file for debian schroot?
[16:09] <yofun> ActionParsnip:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-webapps-youtube/+bug/1179004 is that the correct way to report the bug?
[16:09] <aaron_> ActionParsnip, Sony Vaio
[16:09] <aaron_> ActionParsnip, SVS1512S1ES the model
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> yofun: looks good. the bug guys will suggest things to try etc to progress the bug
[16:10] <yofun> alright thanks ;)
[16:10] <KYLEtheBAKER> brainwash, i may try that
[16:10] <KYLEtheBAKER> is there a way to check the amount of ram allocated to my onboard display driver?
[16:11] <Osmodivs> I guess Iĺl stick with ugly Bodhi...
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: echo "0" | sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/kbd_backlight
[16:12] <Osmodivs> NO! I want Ubuntu!
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> osmodivs: you didnt answer me.....
[16:12] <aaron_> ActionParsnip, tee: /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/kbd_backlight: No such file or directory
[16:12] <aaron_> 0
[16:13] <aaron_> ActionParsnip, i dont have the kbd_backlight
[16:13] <dublidu> i want to execute a command _once_ on a boot _before_ my network is set up. i tried it in /etc/rc.local. unfortunately there it is to late as ifconfig allready shows established network. i dont want to execute the command every time /etc/init.d/networking is executed or any ifup/ifdown.. just once on a system-boot... a cronjob with "@reboot" is too late, too. what is my line here?
[16:13] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, MD5SUM are good, I tested and installed with that liveCD another Laptop
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: search the /sys folder and /dev folder for something like that
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> osmodivs: why did you not read my question, but instead write some emotional nonesense. why ask for support then not respond when people offer advice?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> osmodivs: i also highlighted you, so it would be easier to spot. what gives?
[16:15] <aaron_> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5655042/ from sudo find /sys | grep backlight | pastebinit
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: try: echo "0" | sudo tee /sys/module/sony_laptop/parameters/kbd_backlight
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: just read your own output...
[16:17] <netlar> Ok, I reformatted the external hd to ext2 and now it is only available to the root
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> dublidu  you can make it a cronjob ==> @reboot
[16:17] <dublidu> MonkeyDust: no i cant
[16:17] <netlar> i used gparted
[16:17] <aaron_> ActionParsnip, permission denied
[16:17] <dublidu> MonkeyDust: its too late
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> netlar: chown the mount point and below to your user
[16:17] <netlar> can you tell I do not know what I am doing, :)
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: try some of the other likely looking ones
[16:18] <Guest87984> hi
[16:18] <dublidu> MonkeyDust: but thanks
[16:19] <aaron_> ActionParsnip, kdb_backlight is already 0
[16:19] <aaron_> ActionParsnip, i checked
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: try 1. its basically thos sorts of files
[16:21] <aaron_> ActionParsnip, how can i gain permissions it doesnt let me to saveit
[16:21] <treetreetr33> sudo?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: try: echo "0" | sudo tee /sys/class/leds/keyboard/brightness
[16:21] <gdeeble> Does anyone have a good tutorial to convert from single disk to raid1 after installation has been done? I've been running on single disk for a year and now want to convert to a raid 1 since it's becoming more of a vital machine with a lot of records.
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: piping to sudo tee puts the value in the file
[16:22] <aaron_> ActionParsnip, doesnt exist
[16:22] <mguy> gdeeble: Are you doing backups as well?
[16:23] <aaron_> ActionParsnip, yeah i get that but in some files that you told it doesnt let me to save
[16:23] <aaron_> ActionParsnip, it tells permission denied
[16:23] <treetreetr33> open it with sudo
[16:23] <aaron_> doenst open
[16:23] <dublidu> gdeeble: with a translate-service mabe here: http://www.howtoforge.de/
[16:23] <treetreetr33> sudo nano / sudo vi or something
[16:24] <aaron_> tried. nothing
[16:24] <aaron_> and chmod +x *
[16:24] <dublidu> gdeeble: this one goes in that direction: http://www.howtoforge.de/howtos-tutorials/tutorial-aufsetzen-von-software-raid1-auf-einem-bereits-installierten-lvm-system-inkl-grub-konfiguration-unter-fedora-linux/
[16:26] <dublidu> gdeeble: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.howtoforge.de/howtos-tutorials/tutorial-aufsetzen-von-software-raid1-auf-einem-bereits-installierten-lvm-system-inkl-grub-konfiguration-unter-fedora-linux/&usg=ALkJrhh24LHOefxQ3EDUQLsJjc7HVQjYtg
[16:27] <gdeeble> Thank you! I will start reading up.
[16:27] <Casper1901> ciao
[16:27] <Casper1901> !list
[16:28] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[16:28] <Shirakawasuna> X has been closing on me when it shouldn't
[16:28] <Shirakawasuna> here's my xorg log: http://bpaste.net/show/adl7w5rVRJd5Aq0EU1Kg/
[16:28] <netlar> wow nothing changes the slow boot when the external hd is attached
[16:28] <Shirakawasuna> I don't see anything wrong there - but that's a session that terminated all by itself / crashed
[16:29] <Shirakawasuna> is there a different log than Xorg.0.log that I can check to see why X is crashing?
[16:30] <brainwash> Shirakawasuna, try /var/log/syslog
[16:32] <Shirakawasuna> brainwash: cool
[16:32] <Shirakawasuna> looks like xfce4-session is crashing, not X
[16:32] <Shirakawasuna> http://bpaste.net/show/2QH4mDn0b7vfkRPx1YLo/
[16:33] <gustav> Shirakawasuna: Correct.
[16:34] <betrayd> so Shirakawasuna you get a glimpse of an X session trying...'
[16:34] <Shirakawasuna> found some bugs related to the issue
[16:34] <gustav> Shirakawasuna: Did you run memcheck recently?
[16:34] <Shirakawasuna> http://askubuntu.com/questions/292417/xfce4-session-segfault-suspend-and-hibernate-not-working
[16:34] <gustav> Eh...
[16:34] <aaron_> does anybody knows how to turn off the backlight keyboard?
[16:34] <Shirakawasuna> gustav: I haven't, no
[16:34] <gustav> Shirakawasuna: Do that.
[16:35] <gustav> memtest, I mean't.
[16:35] <Shirakawasuna> gustav: will do, probably overnight since it has to check 8Gb
[16:36] <gustav> Shirakawasuna: I mean, ok, it's not very plausible for the memory to just break, so it might be a bug. Or both.
[16:36] <gustav> Shirakawasuna: I figured.
[16:37] <gustav> Shirakawasuna: Did you upgrade xfce session? The binary.
[16:37] <Shirakawasuna> gustav: I recently upgraded to 13.04, so yes
[16:37] <Shirakawasuna> at the moment I'm going to try using the ppa in #19 here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/1104435
[16:38] <gustav> Shirakawasuna: Probability for bug just got bigger.
[16:38] <North> Hey all ! I am presently running Gnome 3.4 on my Laptop with ubuntu 12.04 LTS. how do i upgrade to 3.8 ?
[16:38] <netlar> wow that is a mystery why the computer boots slow when the external hd is not attached
[16:38] <netlar> is*
[16:39] <netlar> is attached*
[16:39] <OerHeks> netlar, you told earlier the ntsf drive had a failure before?
[16:39] <gustav> Shirakawasuna: If you remove the PPA and go with the regular it will probably work. Otherwise you have to deal with the owner of the PPA. YMMV.
[16:39] <netlar> yes, OerHeks, but I was able to format it to ext4 with gparted
[16:40] <simpleuser> Hi eveyone
[16:40] <brainwash> netlar, usb 3.0?
[16:40] <netlar> brainwash: no, this is an other device and older computer
[16:40] <Shirakawasuna> gustav: yeah. I figure this bug is high severity so it'll get fixed by the time I'd need to worry about that
[16:40] <netlar> older*
[16:41] <netlar> brainwash: both are over 5 years old
[16:41] <Shirakawasuna> ok rebooting to see if a totally fresh start with this new package does it
[16:41] <brainwash> netlar, different systems, same external harddrive -> same problem?
[16:41] <gustav> Shirakawasuna: No, it could just be a setting only you have, because of older files, that means severity is low. Only 1 individual.
[16:41] <simpleuser> I listen a lot of podcasts. I like to change the tempo of these mp3 in Audacity and make them faster without changing the height of the voice, to listen more podcasts in a day... ;) Do you think it could be possible with a batch treatment ?
[16:41] <netlar> brainwash: no, when attached to the mac, no problems
[16:41] <iDrofox> Can someone tell me how to enable ubuntu system error showing again ?
[16:41] <netlar> brainwash: only have this one computer with Ubuntu
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> iDrofox, How did you turn it off?
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> !apport
[16:42] <Shirakawasuna> gustav: the bug is ranked as high severity and affects 75
[16:42] <dublidu> i want to execute a command _once_ on a boot _before_ my network is set up. i tried it in /etc/rc.local. unfortunately there it is to late as ifconfig allready shows established network. i dont want to execute the command every time /etc/init.d/networking is executed or any ifup/ifdown.. just once on a system-boot... a cronjob with "@reboot" is too late, too. what is my line here?
[16:42] <Shirakawasuna> if I have that bug
[16:42] <gustav> Shirakawasuna: Is there a plan when it's gonna be done?
[16:43] <gustav> Shirakawasuna: You sound lucky.
[16:43] <iDrofox> wilee-nilee: i was facing a error on each ubuntu startup before which is releated to "speech dispatcher" so i asked about it here and some told me to edit some file to disable notification ot it.Now i want to enable it again ?
[16:44] <Shirakawasuna> brb
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> iDrofox, http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[16:45] <brainwash> netlar, searching for similar cases might be the only way to solve this mystery :/
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> iDrofox, I assume it is apport.
[16:46] <netlar> yes, maybe, it does not ruin anything it appears.  just a little irratating
[16:46] <mchlbhm> Out of curiosity why is this help channel here if all of the info needed can be had via google?
[16:47] <gustav> mchlbhm: Not all have Google.
[16:47] <iDrofox> wilee-nilee: Thanks you assumed it right!
[16:47] <mchlbhm> gustav, I don't understand.
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> mchlbhm, So the people unable to find it can be led there if needed or told directly.
[16:48] <gustav> mchlbhm: IRC is an older protocol than HTTP, which Google runs on.
[16:48] <DJones> !google | mchlbhm This probably explains it better,
[16:48] <gustav> mchlbhm: There's the social aspect, like DJones tried to explain.
[16:49] <alps> yea they should've googled it anyway before asking questions :)
[16:49] <mchlbhm> wilee-nilee, Ah! I can google things, and find info but I don't really understand what it is I'm reading lol
[16:49] <isdangagamay> how do i execute a script after usb is inserted..a generic usb storage i mean.
[16:50] <brainwash> netlar, but creating a bug report on launchpad would help also to identify your problem
[16:50] <netlar> brainwash: ok, i will try that also
[16:50] <netlar> I have another thought, maybe it is the usb port i am using
[16:50] <gustav> isdangagamay: Run it every second.
[16:51] <mchlbhm> for instance, I understand | is a pipe, dsmeg is display message and tail gives the last 10 lines of dsmeg when used with pipe
[16:51] <alps> isdangagamay: what does executing a script has to do with usb storage?
[16:51] <Fleck> mchlbhm: dmesg actually :D
[16:51] <mchlbhm> Fleck, lol thank you
[16:52] <netlar> brainwash: there are four usb ports, two are 1.1 and two are 2.0
[16:52] <isdangagamay> ah alps i want to format every usb pendrive that is inserted. tried this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbDriveDoSomethingHowto
[16:52] <isdangagamay> but it doesnt seem to do anything
[16:53] <isdangagamay> i changed the obvious values
[16:53] <brainwash> netlar, does booting the live cd reproduce the long delay?
[16:53] <mchlbhm> and the terminal commands are in bash?
[16:54] <brainwash> netlar, yea, try changing the usb port
[16:54] <benny_> leave /#ubuntu
[16:54] <netlar> brainwash: I just got to figure out which is which :)
[16:54] <Mrokii> Hello. If I want to backup files for the first time on another HD (so no need to check if files already exist) would it be okay to use cp with preservation of all attributes or should I still use rsync?
[16:55] <alps> isdangagamay: can you provide the scripts you are using?
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  rsync
[16:56] <isdangagamay> alps i did whats in here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbDriveDoSomethingHowto
[16:56] <isdangagamay> just to see if it worked.
[16:56] <dublidu> Mrokii: rsync, too... more reliable... tests, interrupted transfers
[16:56] <isdangagamay> err work
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  rsync -a       <-- archive, to keep the attributes intact
[16:56] <Mrokii> dublidu, MonkeyDust Okay, thanks.
[16:56] <Rus> hi. i am trying to set up apt-mirror, but can't seem to get it to work. if someone could help, it will be most appreciated.
[16:57] <netlar> brainwash: what command can i give to show how the external is attached to computer
[16:58] <alps> isdangagamay: hmm that should work. any errors?
[16:58] <netlar> I see the information bus info: usb@2:2, does that mean usb 2.0?
[16:59] <cebor> how can i setup apt to get proposed updates ?
[16:59] <cebor> using raring
[16:59] <brainwash> netlar, i guess that's the bus id and device id
[17:00] <Mrokii> Does rsync follow symlinks in standard mode or is just the linkfile copied?
[17:01] <graingert> does anyone know how to get apt to install from a synaptic generated marked package file
[17:01] <graingert> eg
[17:01] <brainwash> netlar, but there are no errors in the logs after connecting the hard drive, right?
[17:01] <dublidu> Mrokii: man rsync
[17:01] <netlar> brainwash: not that I see
[17:01] <graingert> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5655184/
[17:01] <netlar> brainwash: actually this computer has 5 usb ports
[17:02] <netlar> sorry mean 6
[17:03] <japandroid> hi, could anyone tell me how to get a script to run everytime I log in to ubuntu?
[17:04] <brainwash> netlar, you will have to test some of them
[17:04] <isdangagamay> alps no nothing on /var/log/syslog
[17:04] <hfase> japandroid,  you need init.d
[17:04] <netlar> brainwash: is there a command to show how the external hd is attached?
[17:04] <brainwash> netlar, but when does the long boot delay exactly occur? after the ubuntu splash screen and before the login screen?
[17:05] <netlar> which port it is using?
[17:05] <brainwash> netlar, lsusb shows the bus/device id, mmh
[17:05] <japandroid> hfase: thank you.
[17:06] <netlar> brainwash: and the other thing i just remembered, is that this external hd is usb powered only
[17:07] <brainwash> netlar, are you able to test another external HD?
[17:08] <alps> isdangagamay: but your backuptousbdrive.log or similar should give some information if you're using the howto
[17:08] <aaron_> does anybody knows to turn off the backlight keyboard?
[17:08] <isdangagamay> yeah i am expecting that. even did a tail on it. nothing
[17:08] <aaron_> iam trying all day oh come on
[17:08] <alps> hmm very strange
[17:09] <netlar> brainwash: yes, I will need to experiment
[17:09] <johnjohn1011> !backports
[17:10] <iDrofox> how do i disable services in ubuntu 13.04 ?
[17:10] <alps> isdangagamay: what about trying another usb-stick? i don't know...
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, A quick look at the web has specific computer models.
[17:12] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, no it doesnt
[17:12] <aaron_> wilee-nilee for me at least
[17:13] <mrpure> Is anyone else having trouble joining #ubuntu-serv ?
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> iDrofox  sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf;sysv-rc-conf
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, You are not thinking, what I'm saying here is name your hardware.
[17:13] <Mrokii> Thanks all.
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> iDrofox  be careful with it
[17:13] <johnjohn1011> #ubuntu-server works for me
[17:14] <mrpure> thanks john, I'll try again
[17:14] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, yeah i searched for sony but with no luck
[17:14] <iDrofox> MonkeyDust: Thanks i am trying to disable metasploit service autostart
[17:14] <brainwash> netlar, and don't forget about launchpad
[17:15] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, i mean nothing that works ofc
[17:15] <netlar> brainwash: I will remember, but I am thinking it may be this hd and how it is attached now
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, Cool, I found one but you have probably already seen it, none the less here it is in case you haven't. http://askubuntu.com/questions/276983/cant-disable-control-keyboard-backlight-on-sony-vaio-vpcf236fm
[17:18] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, doesnt exist
[17:20] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, i cant create a file in the sony folder
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, Have you searched with your exact model, what is it?
[17:21] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, SVS1512S1ES
[17:22] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, i searched nothing
[17:23] <tazer_> i have a good analogy, Ubuntu is the Jason Bourne of Linux
[17:23] <gustav> I always thought Ubuntu was a donkey.
[17:24] <tazer_> hahaha no way!
[17:24] <betrayd> from Shrek
[17:24] <gustav> Yeah. For instance.
[17:24] <dublidu> yea... with ubuntu you get often a fist in your mouth ;-)
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, I see nothing on that model, I would guess though that it is the same hardware as well known named sony computers. Doesn't that link have a make a file command and add script?
[17:24] <gustav> That's why there are always so many people on this channel.
[17:25] <gustav> People love their donkeys.
[17:25] <tazer_> they are as a place of worship for Ubuntu
[17:25] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, yeah it has
[17:25] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, but it doesnt let me to create the kbd_backlight file
[17:25] <tazer_> were we can pray to the Ubuntu gods
[17:26] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, :/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop this is as far as it goes
[17:27] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, i want to create the kbd_backlight file to modify it to 0 but i cant do it
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, Not sure here really, I'm fairly certain this can be done, however getting there seems to be a weighing of is it worth the trouble. ;)
[17:27] <iDrofox> just solved my ubuntu not shutting down issue...wohoooooooooo
[17:28] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, i want to save battery
[17:28] <aaron_> wilee-nilee,  Error while creating file Untitled Document.
[17:28] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, when iam trying to create a file
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, I figured that was the situation, you might try makng a thread on the ubuntu forum as well.
[17:29] <aaron_> wilee-nilee,  Error opening file '/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/Untitled Document': No such file or directory
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> or other forums
[17:29] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, also i tried in different locations to locate the kbd_backlight i found it change the price to 0 or 1 but nothing
[17:30] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, you did a reboot on changes I assume.
[17:30] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, yes
[17:30] <cuddylier> Is it possible to disable FTP and still keep SFTP running? I have a program that has its own FTP system but it needs port 21
[17:31] <gustav> cuddylier: Yes.
[17:31] <cuddylier> gustav How?
[17:31] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, i want my 1 Watt :D
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> lol
[17:31] <gustav> cuddylier: 1) Disable FTP.
[17:31] <dublidu> cuddylier: sftp isnt ssh?
[17:31] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, right now with wifi on i get a rate of discharge 11.8 W
[17:32] <cuddylier> dublidu What?
[17:32] <cuddylier> gustav How though... lol
[17:32] <gustav> cuddylier: What program?
[17:32] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, xchat open 5 tabs of chrome a couple of terminals
[17:32] <cuddylier> Um
[17:32] <cuddylier> SFTPD I think
[17:32] <gustav> cuddylier: That's not FTP.
[17:32] <dublidu> cuddylier: sftp sounds like ftp... but it isnt
[17:32] <cuddylier> vsftpd
[17:32] <cuddylier> That's it!
[17:32] <gustav> cuddylier: sudo apt-get remove vsftpd
[17:32] <cuddylier> I still want sftp access though
[17:32] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, 1 W is a big think oh come on :D
[17:33] <dublidu> cuddylier: then install sshd
[17:33] <dublidu> cuddylier: sftp is sshd
[17:33] <cuddylier> Is that sftp only?
[17:33] <aaron_> aaron_, anyway ...
[17:33] <cuddylier> Is sshd not ssh?
[17:33] <dublidu> cuddylier: ssh_d_ _d_=daemon
[17:34] <micom> hello, i have noticed randomly log outs after upgrade to 13.04 is it know problem?
[17:35] <cuddylier> I had a brain wave, I can change the FTP port its using
[17:35] <gustav> cuddylier: Maybe you should have a drink.
[17:35] <cuddylier> :D
[17:35] <cuddylier> Now, where is the config file..
[17:35]  * cuddylier hunts
[17:41] <iDrofox> anyone uninstall metasploit from ubuntu here ?
[17:41] <cuddylier> How do I change the vsftpd port? I can't see a setting for it in the config
[17:43] <dublidu> if there is no option to configure the listening port (which i cant imagine for vsftp) you could use iptables to use another port outside... but i would bet, its better you do a: man vsftp
[17:43] <gustav> Doesn't vsftp use an Internet server?
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> iDrofox, I see a rm -rf here on it be very careful those are wiping commands. http://askubuntu.com/questions/249484/how-can-i-uninstall-metasploit
[17:43] <bekks> gustav: It runs wherever you install it on.
[17:44] <cuddylier> dublidu Why would it not let you change the port..
[17:44] <cuddylier> I just want to change the port of FTP
[17:44] <dublidu> cuddylier: really: rtfm
[17:44] <dublidu> cuddylier: google that: "rtfm"
[17:44] <cuddylier> I'll look for a manual then..
[17:45] <dublidu> cuddylier: sorry. but changing the listening port of a ftp-server is so elementary... it has to be in the manual
[17:46] <bekks> Its even in the config file.
[17:46] <iDrofox> wilee-nilee: thx it worked!
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> cool
[17:46] <cuddylier> dublidu I'm looking, they don't make it very obvious
[17:47] <aaron_> i cant create a file in a specific location what should i do?
[17:47] <tgm4883> aaron_, that isn't very many details.
[17:47] <aaron_> tgm4883, Error while creating file Untitled Document.
[17:48] <aaron_> tgm4883, There was an error creating the directory in /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop
[17:48] <dublidu> cuddylier: or use a configuring-gui for vsftp then. search for it... i would bet (a bit) webmin can do it
[17:48] <tgm4883> aaron_, where are you trying to create it
[17:48] <aaron_> tgm4883, Error opening file '/sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/Untitled Document': No such file or directory
[17:48] <tgm4883> aaron_, why are you trying to create it there?
[17:48] <ronalds> gta 4 lags trought wine enourmously
[17:49] <ronalds> any chance of getting it working if I have bad graphics card, that can run it only in windows
[17:49] <aaron_> tgm4883, i want to create a file to turn off the keyboard backlight
[17:50] <tgm4883> aaron_, ok, well a few issues.  1) you don't have permission to write to that directory, so you'll need to do that with the proper permissions (root), 2) that is a virtual filesystem, so you'll lose that file on reboot
[17:50] <aaron_> tgm4883, doesnt work on root
[17:50] <aaron_> tgm4883, i can find a script to keep it
[17:51] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[17:52] <zubuntt> I've just installed ubuntu 13.04. I cannot get chrome to use gpu. My graphic card is ATI HD 5450.
[17:52] <dopie2> anyone use virtualbox in windows 8 and running ubuntu?
[17:52] <zubuntt> dopie2: no it's an actual installation
[17:53] <tgm4883> aaron_, so giant netsplit, can you tell me where you are trying to write the file again? and how you are trying to do it as root?
[17:53] <aaron_> tgm4883, /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop
[17:54] <aaron_> tgm4883, sudo touch (file) and with nautilus and tried to change permissions with chmod
[17:55] <tgm4883> aaron_, hmm, that is odd
[17:55] <zubuntt> I cannot get firefox and chrome recognize my gpu, it's ati 5450. I installed the latest ati catalyst drivers but no chance. chrome://gpu does not show any hardware acceleration
[17:55] <mchlbhm> So I can't get webpages to load. I've tried 3 browsers, I tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, I restarted the clearbox, nothing seems to work for very long. How could I fix this?
[17:56] <aaron_> tgm4883, touch: cannot touch `a': No such file or directory
[17:56] <aaron_> tgm4883, wtf
[18:17] <Ozera> wtf
[18:17] <Ozera> ...
[18:18] <Ozera> .
[18:35] <brennan> hello
[18:35] <pure> hello brennan
[18:35] <Ozera> hello pure
[18:35] <bhavesh> I always get facebook account requires authorization when empathy starts and when click a button next to it, nothing happens
[18:35] <brennan> hey how do you update to the new version of ubuntu?
[18:36] <bhavesh> brennan, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-update
[18:36] <Ozera> lol
[18:36] <bhavesh> what was that?
[18:37] <bhavesh> Why did so many people join at once?
[18:37] <dgjones> !netsplit | bhavesh
[18:37] <tozen> bhavesh: and so what?
[18:38] <thesheff17> anyone know how to move the cinamon icons left?  They seem to be centered on the taskbar
[18:39] <Ari-Yang> thesheff17, nto really the right place to ask I thin. right click on taskbar and hit 'edit mode' and move the section of the bar where icons are kept to the left...
[18:39] <thesheff17> yea edit mode doesn't move them :-/   I don't know what is going on
[18:40] <Ari-Yang> thesheff17, the icons are like on a "green" part of the taskbar, that is what you drag.
[18:40] <thesheff17> I can re arrange them...but all stuck in the middle
[18:40] <thesheff17> yea
[18:40] <Ari-Yang> is this latest cinnamon? 1.8?
[18:40] <aqib> whats the command for jioning the channel
[18:40] <Ari-Yang> @ aqib /join #chaname
[18:40] <thesheff17> Ari-Yang, let me check
[18:40] <thesheff17> I'm using ubuntu 12.04
[18:40] <pure> They had a DDoS attack so they're having netsplits
[18:41] <Ari-Yang> k, what what's the version of cinnamon?
[18:41] <thesheff17> 1.8.2
[18:42] <Ari-Yang> thesheff17, yeah that's like a latest build that might have bugs in it
[18:42] <Ari-Yang> I updated to 1.8, saw a new update 1.8.2 which I didn't update to because it's from git
[18:42] <Ari-Yang> probably still in the works, so perhaps it's a bug?
[18:42] <thesheff17> yea I just used the ppa
[18:42] <Ari-Yang> yeah
[18:42] <Ari-Yang> that's why is good to make sure that the version is stable
[18:42] <Ari-Yang> which 1.8.2 isn't really, compared to 1.8
[18:42] <Ari-Yang> (which was announced on the site)
[18:43] <thesheff17> ah so is cinamon just in the standard repo?
[18:43] <thesheff17> and I should haven't used the ppa?
[18:43] <funky> guys
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> thesheff17  cinnamon is a Mint thingy
[18:44] <Ari-Yang> thesheff17, you can use the ppa, it's just that you should double check that the version you're thinking about updating to is stable
[18:44] <funky> I got 1 ubs hdd, if I unpack ubuntu on it and format hdd  can I somehow install ubuntu?
[18:44] <Ari-Yang> because the ppa I have just updates willy nilly
[18:44] <thesheff17> ah ok
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> well, it looks it in the raring repos now, too, ok
[18:44] <Ari-Yang> so yeah thesheff17, if there's a #mint channel you should join and ask
[18:44] <thesheff17> Ari-Yang, thanks
[18:45] <Ari-Yang> yw
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> !info cinnamon
[18:45] <Ari-Yang> MonkeyDust, he's on 12.04
[18:45] <thesheff17> yea I need the icons at the top & the toolbar at the bottom
[18:45] <pure> funky: yes, you can install it on the usb hdd
[18:46] <Ari-Yang> funch, what thesheff said. That's how I installed ubuntu on this laptop, used a usb
[18:53] <Guest68878> Hello room!!
[18:53] <thecodeischaos> hello
[18:54] <Guest68878> hey how do you update to the new version of ubuntu??
[18:54] <jessica9898> what software i can use for reminding me todo breaks on time intervals ?
[18:54] <thecodeischaos> jessica make a bash script?
[18:55] <Fyodorovna> !updates
[18:55] <mchlbhm> OK, I'm way confused again (nothing new). My wifi was acting weird in gnome, but I change back to unity and now it works correctly. I don't understand why.
[18:55] <Fyodorovna> Guest68878, What release are you running?
[18:55] <Guest68878> 12.04 but i want 13.04
[18:56] <Guest68878> Fyodorovna, 12.04 but i want 13.04
[18:56] <Fyodorovna> Guest68878, You need to go through 12.10 to keep installs, or just install 13.04.
[19:01] <kerf> Some of Byobu's keybindings are taken up by "* used by X11 *" and any two key keybinding is unresponsive, how can I fix this?
[19:01] <2JTAABKZQ> hi
[19:01] <2JTAABKZQ> this name is so good right
[19:03] <iseitani> Hi!!How can I get a snapshot @13.04??
[19:03] <melodie> on a server
[19:04] <cos45> тут есть кто?
[19:04] <melodie> iseitani ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/Ubuntu/releases/raring/
[19:04] <DJones> !ru | cos45
[19:05] <puff`> Hi, I'm looking for the alternate install CD for Raring Ringtail, there doesn't seem to be one at http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[19:05] <erwing> hola
[19:05] <DJones> puff`: The alternate cd's don't exist after 12.04
[19:06] <DJones> puff`: You need to use the minimal iso as a starter if you need a text based installer
[19:06] <DJones> !minimal
[19:06] <puff`> DJones: Ohjoy.
[19:06] <L0rdN1k0n> later
[19:07] <puff`> DJones: I have a thinkpad, it's always had problems with the main install CD.
[19:07] <puff`> DJones: Thanks.
[19:09] <WXZ> xrandr tells me my max resolution is 800x600, but that's not true
[19:10] <cos45> здрасьте не поможите?
[19:10] <auronandace> !ru | cos45
[19:11] <folorn> hello everyone :)
[19:16] <pc__> hi
[19:16] <daniel> hi every1 =)
[19:16] <mchlbhm> Anyone know why changing my de would effect my wifi connection?
[19:17] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I stream a video from HDD (asus rt-n66u) to my ubuntu 13.04?
[19:17] <mojtaba> !fa | cos45
[19:18] <okstategad> need help with keyboard
[19:18] <thecodeischaos> is it plugged in?
[19:18] <okstategad> when i type C i get +
[19:18] <mchlbhm> mojtaba: Please excuse my ignorance. What does !fa | cos45 mean?
[19:19] <thecodeischaos> layout set to proper region?
[19:19] <okstategad> shows that it is
[19:19] <mojtaba> mchlbhm: I was just testing to see if !fa is working like !ru.
[19:20] <okstategad> this happened after a reCent update
[19:20] <mchlbhm> mojtaba: I didn't understand that either. I'll google it. Thank you for responding. :)
[19:20] <auronandace> !brain | mojtaba
[19:22] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I stream a video from HDD (asus rt-n66u) to my ubuntu 13.04?
[19:22] <mojtaba> Does ubuntu support DLNA?
[19:22] <mchlbhm> Gah! I still can't load webpages in firefox or chromium. :(
[19:23] <Guest18752> mojtaba, what is the os on the asus?
[19:23] <mojtaba> Guest18752: It is a router ( I guess unix base)
[19:24] <mchlbhm> elinks text browser won't work either
[19:25] <mchlbhm> Any help?
[19:25] <th0r> mojtaba, does it support samba? I stream from my laptop to my tablets using samba, and the same from my NAS to laptop/tablet
[19:26] <mojtaba> th0r: It said so.
[19:26] <mojtaba> But I could not figure it out
[19:26] <aaron__> does anybody know how can i turn off the keyboard backlight?
[19:26] <th0r> mojtaba, first, it will be a lot easier to set it all up if you know all the IP addresses. I have static IPs in my network on the boat.
[19:27] <pure> mchlbhm: Your connection dropped when you switched environments?
[19:27] <th0r> mojtaba, then I mount the network drives as CIFS. Give me a sec and I will pastebin the script I use.
[19:27] <mojtaba> th0r: thanks
[19:27] <th0r> mojtaba,
[19:27] <th0r> mojtaba, oops....
[19:28] <th0r> mojtaba, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5655678/
[19:28] <mchlbhm> pure: Yes, but it didn't go away after rebooting the system, rebooting clearbox or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:29] <aaron__> does anybody know how can i turn off the keyboard backlight?
[19:29] <th0r> mojtaba, if you are plugging the drive into the router, I would guess the address as 192.168.xxx.1, but that is only a guess
[19:29] <mojtaba> th0r: Yes it is the address.
[19:30] <mojtaba> Should I set the credentials of the router in samba in ubuntu?
[19:30] <th0r> mojtaba, the .smbcredentials file just contains two lines, username=xxx and password=xxx for the samba acct
[19:30] <pure> mchlbhm: Does it work if you switch back to the old de?
[19:30] <seronis> is there a reason that the Properties window doesnt allow me to set the executable bit on *.jar files ?
[19:30] <mojtaba> th0r: And where is it located?
[19:30] <th0r> mojtaba, and the /media folders are the mount points I created
[19:30] <mchlbhm> pure: using ubuntu 12.04 I went from unity to gnome (problems started) and now back to unity with no change
[19:30] <seronis> only read/write show up in the menu.  that seems unhelpful
[19:31] <th0r> mojtaba, you can put the credentials file anywhere, but I put it in root for security purposes.
[19:31] <OerHeks> seronis outside your /home/ folder?
[19:31] <seronis> its in home/downloads
[19:31] <OerHeks> odd
[19:31] <aaron__> does anybody know how can i turn off the keyboard backlight?
[19:32] <clempe> i have a dell inspiron 7520 notebook. my fan is always running with full speed. i tried to configure fancontrol but i get this "/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed"
[19:32] <mojtaba> th0r: Should I create .smbcredentials file, or does it exist and I should edit it?
[19:33] <th0r> mojtaba, you create it
[19:33] <mojtaba> th0r: Does it have special format?
[19:33] <th0r> aaron__, is this a macbook?
[19:33] <aaron__> th0r, no
[19:33] <aaron__> th0r, its sony
[19:33] <th0r> mojtaba, no, just a text file with those two lines
[19:33] <aaron__> th0r, can you help me?
[19:34] <mojtaba> th0r: like: username = xxxx
[19:34] <mojtaba> password = xxxx
[19:34] <th0r> aaron__, there are some suggestions here...http://forum.notebookreview.com/samsung/673525-keyboard-backlight-ubuntu-12-04-chronos-7-np700z7c.html
[19:34] <th0r> mojtaba, yes, I didn't use spaces but that should work
[19:35] <th0r> mojtaba, it can be named anything, and be placed anywhere. Just make sure you use the right path/filename in the script
[19:35] <mojtaba> th0r: ok, thanks
[19:36] <th0r> mojtaba, I use vlc to watch the videos. Just access the mountpoint with thunar and open the file with vlc
[19:36] <pure> mchlbhm: Is the wireless adapter on? Is it showing up in ifconfig?
[19:36] <zeep> the window buttons in fullscreen look different than the window theme ;o
[19:36] <mchlbhm> pure: I'm new. I type ifconfig in the terminal?
[19:37] <pure> mchlbhm: yes
[19:37] <mchlbhm> pure, ty. looking
[19:37] <Smash_> hello, i gotta problem anyone ever delt with unknown monitor on a sodered on intel chipset...
[19:38] <pure> mchlbhm: Are you using a laptop? There's usually a button to enable/diable wireless. It may have disabled it when you switched the de so double check that it's still on.
[19:38] <mchlbhm> pure: no Idea. May I paste? No, tower.
[19:38] <InfiniteForest> Ubuntu makes me want to play the bongos
[19:38] <InfiniteForest> they got rid of the bongo sound when you log in
[19:39] <mchlbhm> Pure: nevermind....This sucks. lol
[19:39] <pure> mchlbhm: what interfaces does it show? should be something like eth0, lo, wlan0
[19:40] <Smash_> anyone any good with ubuntu vga unknown monitor stuff?
[19:40] <Smash_> i think its just a edid problem but no idea how to fix
[19:40] <mchlbhm> pure: all three
[19:40] <Smash_> or workaround
[19:42] <clempe> can somebody help me with fancontrol? it says " no pwm-capable sensor modules installed" but its possible to display the temperature with sensors
[19:42] <pure> mchlbhm: Does the status of wlan0 say UP?
[19:42] <mojtaba> th0r: thanks man
[19:43] <mchlbhm> pure: UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1400  Metric:1
[19:43] <Smash_> ill be on here for a while and i really could use some help... ill be patient
[19:45] <sakurai> Hi... I fucked up, and setted up a desktop background so big that my netbook doesn't log in now.
[19:45] <Smash_> anyone feel like talking about some problems with my ubuntu 13.04
[19:46] <pure> mchlbhm: If your connection is still setup properly, you may be able to just "dhclient wlan0" to get a lease
[19:46] <melodie> Smash_ I don't use it but say about one to start with
[19:47] <Marco> I am STUCK and really need some help.
[19:47] <sakurai> Does anyone know where are the background image settings in Ubuntu 12.04?
[19:47] <Marco> I'd appreciate i leaps and bounds!
[19:47] <mchlbhm> pure: wlan0 is a zero, correct?
[19:47] <melodie> sakurai you can configure an automatic login, by configuring the lightdm.conf file from within a tty
[19:47] <melodie> sakurai it's not background image setting it's about resolution
[19:48] <melodie> sakurai you have to be logged in to set it up, AFAIK
[19:48] <pure> mchlbhm: yes
[19:48] <dichotoPangea> Does anyone know how to disable Mouse Keys in 13.04?
[19:48] <melodie> mchlbhm yes 0 is zero
[19:48] <mchlbhm> pure: yeah, I just noticed the dot in it. lol
[19:49] <th0r> Marco, you would get more help if we knew the problem
[19:49] <Marco> Ah.  So, ubuntu 12.10 installed fine via usb.  13.04 updated fine. but i wanted clean install... now, i cant get it working and im am just STUCK.  First few installs i got some error that kept repeating for realtek and now i just get a screen that turns on and off.  I can NOT get it to boot after install.  No info ive searched online helps.
[19:49] <sakurai> @melodie: I have password login enabled, so I can still go in from command line.
[19:49] <mchlbhm> pure: sudo dhclient wlan0?
[19:49] <pure> mchlbhm: yes
[19:49] <Marco> Im SO darn frustrated.  Ive spent TOO much time on this.
[19:50] <mchlbhm>  pure: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[19:50] <taar779_> Is there a way to give a user full permissions for usb devices?
[19:50] <melodie> sakurai yes, then go to the wiki look how to login automatically with your user login name, reboot and then from there change the resolution
[19:51] <Marco> im on usb boot now
[19:51] <AndChat308009> Marco: you may be using old h/w
[19:51] <Marco> hardware?
[19:51] <AndChat308009> Yh
[19:51] <Marco> its a bran new PC, also, it worked fine when i installed 12.10 and updated to 13.04
[19:52] <sakurai> @melodie: thanks, but the logging part isn't the issue, the issue is that I don't know where is the config file.
[19:52] <mchlbhm> I wish there were classes online to learn linux. I'd devote a ton of time to it.
[19:52] <AndChat308009> Try clean install
[19:52] <Marco> thats what i have bwwn soin
[19:52] <sakurai> @mchlbhm: I think there are.
[19:53] <Marco> *been doing
[19:53] <melodie> sakurai the config file is not the problem, to override it you need to be logged in so you have to use a turn around
[19:53] <Marco> from USB
[19:53] <Marco> re downloaded ubuntu 3 times
[19:53] <Marco> from diff computers
[19:53] <mchlbhm> sakurai, do you know of any?
[19:53] <sakurai> @melodie: I AM logged in!
[19:54] <sakurai> @melodie: that is, if you count cli
[19:54] <melodie> I meant login to X
[19:54] <melodie> sakurai login to X
[19:54] <pure> mchlbhm: try "iwconfig" and then "sudo iwlist scan" and see if your router shows up
[19:55] <Marco> i have NO idea where to even start now....
[19:55] <sakurai> @mchlbhm: depends on orientation, there is a pretty nice internet course about shell commands that I know about, but you'd have to search if you want a more general thing...
[19:55] <Marco> i just want to be done with this, its been TOO much time just trying to get it to boot after install
[19:55] <th0r> Marco, you say you downloaded the iso three times, did you run the md5 checksum on any of them?
[19:56] <Bulma> hey guys
[19:56] <Bulma> anyone here make the switch to linux for niggers?
[19:56] <[BackBox]> helo guys
[19:56] <[BackBox]> :-)
[19:57] <bash2703> dafuq
[19:57] <mchlbhm> pure: Yes, it shows
[19:57] <Bulma> i cant seem to get on the site http://linuxforniggers.us/
[19:57] <sakurai> @melodie: lightdm.conf is where?
[19:57] <XHEART24> hi everyone, does someone know why wma files do not work on media players connected to TVs? I have a sony media player box and the wma files can not be viewed, only sound is heard.
[19:57] <Marco> no, i downloaded using the instructions from ubuntu
[19:57] <erry> Myrtti, :D
[19:58] <melodie> sakurai somewhere under /etc as all configuration files
[19:58] <Marco> Download, use pen drive to put on jump drive, did same thing i did when installing 12 successfully
[19:58] <Marco> also, i have installed 13 5 times, no success to boot
[19:58] <Marco> but it says it was a successful installation
[19:58] <bash2703> XHEART wma means windows media audio, its supposed to be sound only
[19:58] <th0r> Marco, you do realize you have said nothing about how it fails, where it fails, how far it boots....or what the problem seems to be
[19:59] <XHEART24> i can view that file on my pc as a video
[19:59] <mchlbhm> sakurai, not looking for general. I'm looking to learn not only what commands to type in, but what they're doing to make "things" happen
[19:59] <bash2703> than its wmv
[19:59] <XHEART24> true
[19:59] <XHEART24> sorry
[19:59] <bash2703> its because wmv is a microsoft format and your media player might not have the codec for that
[19:59] <XHEART24> then why i can not view wmv on the media play?
[19:59] <mchlbhm> Myrtti, than you for that. :)
[19:59] <Marco> th0r, appoligies, im not super knowledgeable about all of this
[20:00] <XHEART24> can wmv convert to avi?
[20:00] <bash2703> yepp just google for a converter
[20:01] <sakurai> @mchlbhm: Off the top of my head I can point you to linuxcommand.org, I hope it works for you.
[20:01] <XHEART24> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[20:01] <Marco> i have though, i had informed about how after a successful install, when it asks for restart that 2 installs it gave me a blinking message i did not understand referring to Realtek, than, the next 3 successful installs/unsuccessful boots it has simply been turning the screen on and off after the intel logo
[20:01] <pure> mchlbhm: now "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid password" where essid is the name of your router and password is your password.
[20:01] <bash2703> than google wmv to avi converter ubuntu, its not that hard
[20:02] <Marco> th0r: which, is all the info i have.
[20:02] <jordan4ibanez> Handbrake for a converter.
[20:03] <Marco> pretty straight forward i guess, successful install, unsuccessful boot, just turns screen on/off.  nothing else after the inital intel logo where u can press F2 for boot menu
[20:03] <Marco> but any help would be so greatly appreciated, this stuff can get preeeetty irritating! lol
[20:03] <looop> marco...dual boot?
[20:03] <Marco> No sir
[20:03] <Marco> just ubuntu
[20:03] <Marco> which is rough as i have to use the usb boot to even talk to u guys right now
[20:04] <Marco> i have nothing on my laptop
[20:04] <looop> Your 1st instal?
[20:04] <th0r> !nomodeset
[20:04] <Marco> many many installs
[20:04] <Marco> 12.10 successful
[20:04] <th0r> Marco, try that nomodeset and see if it helps
[20:04] <Marco> 13.04 upgrade successful
[20:04] <Mehdi> Hello people =)
[20:04] <XHEART24> i love my ubuntu 12.04 but i want to update
[20:04] <pure> mchlbhm: Are you using WPA?
[20:04] <Marco> let me see if i can understand this ill let u know in a sec
[20:05] <Marco> the link is in ref. to ubuntu 10
[20:06] <TheLordOfTime> Marco:  it should still be relevant
[20:06] <Marco> and this stuff is WAY over my head
[20:06] <Marco> ok thanks about the relevence
[20:06] <mchlbhm> pure: Sorry, was terminal (har har) looking
[20:06] <camilo> hola necesito ayuda con el uso de Tor en mozilla me pueden ayudar?
[20:06] <diiphantom> hi all, how do i add keyboard shortcuts?
[20:07] <Marco> yeah this link is FAR beyond me
[20:07] <camilo> ubuntu en español necesito
[20:07] <Marco> i dont understand 85 percent of it
[20:07] <diiphantom> camilo: cual es el problema?
[20:07] <DJones> !es | camilo
[20:08] <diiphantom> camilo: entra al canal de espanol
[20:08] <camilo> ya.... instale tor vidalia se conecta, sin embargo no se sincroniza con mi mozilla
[20:08] <mchlbhm> pure: wpa
[20:08] <camilo> gracias... iré a ubuntu en español
[20:08] <MrBoss> hello, Ubuntu touch works in Galaxy SIII mini ?
[20:08] <diiphantom> camilo: ok
[20:08] <DJones> !touch | MrBoss
[20:09] <Marco> i just dont get why 12 instlled fine and update to 13 is fine but clean 13 i cant get
[20:09] <th0r> !es
[20:09] <MrBoss> ubottu ok
[20:09] <Mehdi> I have a problem with skype. I am on 13.04 (fresh install) x64, but every time i have the notification of someone connecting or disconnecting, there's a weird sound. how do I fix it ?
[20:09] <looop> bad iso? marco
[20:09] <mchlbhm> pure: unknown command for my router
[20:09] <Marco> i downloaded it multiple times
[20:09] <Marco> on multiple pcs
[20:09] <pure> mchlbhm: Have you checked your /etinnetwork/interfaces file to make sure the settings are correct for wlan0? Make sure the essid and passphrase are there.
[20:09] <DJones> MrBoss: The #ubuntu-touch channel is probably the best one to ask about support on the SG3
[20:09] <Marco> and put on multiple usb drives
[20:09] <diiphantom> hi all, how do i add keyboard shortcuts to apps and menus?
[20:10] <mchlbhm> pure: No. Think ultra n00b when dealing with me please. lol
[20:13] <Marco> what difference does it make if i just redownload 12.10 and install than update again to 1?  cause this has taken me all day fri and sat and thats just silly.... so, will that be ok?  what the difference?
[20:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Marco: ...1?
[20:13] <Marco> rruy
[20:14] <Marco> Ugh
[20:14] <Marco> keyboard
[20:14] <Marco> 13
[20:14] <Marco> sorry about that guys
[20:14] <mchlbhm> pure: If at anytime you decide my ignorance is too much of a pain... I'd understand.
[20:14] <pure> mchlbhm: No problem. Try "nano /etc/network/interfaces" and look for the section that starts with "auto wlan0" Check to see that your essid is correct.
[20:17] <mchlbhm> pure: I have two lines and some kind of legend at the bottom.
[20:17] <mchlbhm> pure: auto lo (top line) and iface lo inet loopback (second line)
[20:18] <mchlbhm> pure: bottom shows ^G for get help and whatnot
[20:19] <aaron__> what modprobe -v does?
[20:20] <th0r> aaron__, displays the version information for modprobe
[20:20] <Marco> So.... advantages/disadvantages to upgrade to 13 or clean insall?
[20:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Marco: I would recommend the upgrade if you have Google Chrome (not Chromium)
[20:21] <aaron__> th0r, no it doesnt
[20:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Other than that one's as good as the other.
[20:21] <th0r> aaron__, right...Ijust checked...it isn't a valid option
[20:21] <aaron__> th0r,  this sudo modprobe -v sony-laptop
[20:22] <dopie> how do i enter command line prompt ?!
[20:22] <mchlbhm> pure: gotta go. Wife is patient, but about to kill me. Thank you for everything. :D
[20:22] <pure> mchlbhm: the legend is for nano, which is a text editor. Looks like you'll need to do some configuration. It's a little too detailed to walk you through on here. Do you have access to google at the moment?
[20:22] <Marco> SonikkuAmerica: What do you mean? I am on USB boot now... i will need to download and make new usb boot through here... using firefox.... and, i am unsure of what you mean by use chromium not chrome?  id install either or AFTER the successful install of ubuntu
[20:22] <th0r> aaron__, according to the man page it gets you information as the program progresses
[20:23] <aaron__> th0r, how did you find this?
[20:23] <th0r> aaron__, open a terminal and type 'man modprobe'. There is a man page for every command
[20:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Marco: The Chrome thing is about 13.04 not having a certain dependency that ChromE needs. (ChromIUM will work with no problems.) By upgrading the dependency will still be there.
[20:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Marco: Without that dependency (libudev0, if you're wondering) ChromE won't install.
[20:25] <aaron__> th0r, hmm nice .. but the thing iam still fighting to turn off the god damn keyboard
[20:25] <aaron__> th0r, i've looked everywhere
[20:25] <Aethysius`> I'm in Kubuntu, and for some reason, Banshee has decided to throw up a blank window instead of the actual music views.
[20:25] <aaron__> th0r, the page that you showed me doesnt work
[20:25] <netlar> :)
[20:25] <aaron__> where can i post bugs?
[20:25] <SonikkuAmerica> Aethysius`: Try purging and reinstalling. Banshee needs GTK+ libraries to work.
[20:26] <Aethysius`> Purging?
[20:26] <th0r> aaron__, I don;t have such a keyboard so never had that problem. I would have to depend on google to lead me to the right info
[20:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Aethysius`: (KDE is in Qt)
[20:26] <SonikkuAmerica> !purge
[20:26] <Aethysius`> I see.
[20:26] <aaron__> th0r, yeah the thing is i cant find anything that works
[20:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Aethysius`: [ sudo apt-get purge banshee ] is the command you want
[20:26] <aaron__> th0r, i can find relevant things but nothing of them works
[20:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Then run [ sudo apt-get autoremove --purge ]
[20:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Aethysius`: ^
[20:27] <Aethysius`> Thank you.
[20:27] <looop> Aethysius`: i thought Amarok was the sacred kde music player
[20:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Aethysius`: Then reinstall Banshee.
[20:27] <SonikkuAmerica> looop: It is...
[20:27] <Aethysius`> I dislike Amarok.
[20:27]  * SonikkuAmerica looks at the Amarok "h8r"
[20:27] <aaron__> Aethysius`, oh come on Amarokm is good
[20:27] <aaron__> Amarok
[20:28] <looop> SonikkuAmerica: when i was on kde i loved amarok
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Haters gonna hate I guess.
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> I'm on it now
[20:28] <aaron__> Aethysius`, why you dont like it?
[20:29] <Aethysius`> I just don't like the way it's laid out.
[20:30] <Aethysius`> In apt-get, how do I install all the extras for it?
[20:32] <Aethysius`> Same thing's happening.
[20:32] <Aethysius`> Oh, never mind.
[20:33] <zerowaitstate> i take it freenode is having problems today?
[20:33] <2JTAABKZQ> being ddosed
[20:33] <2JTAABKZQ> yes
[20:33] <zerowaitstate> why would anyone want to ddos freenode?
[20:34] <Aethysius> Ah, there we go.
[20:35] <petey> are there any commands that can help you find and merge duplicates together
[20:35] <petey> i have like 5 folders - sites 1 / sites 2 / sites 3 / sites 4
[20:35] <petey> crappy backups i had to make over a certain period of time
[20:36] <th0r> petey, you might look at either the command 'cp -u' or the program FreeFileSync
[20:36] <petey> whoah th0r thank you
[20:36] <petey> freefilesync looks great
[20:36] <zerowaitstate> or rsync
[20:37] <th0r> zerowaitstate, rsync kept messing up the attributes...was giving me headaches figuring it out. FreeFileSync just works
[20:39] <di_giorgio> Mp3player [Nickelback - Burn It To The Ground] CeBoLiNhA 2012
[20:39] <Ben66> di_giorgio: please don't
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> di_giorgio  no such scripts here, please
[20:46]  * Wizard yawns
[20:46] <netlar> best irc clients?
[20:46] <Wizard> XChat, of course.
[20:47] <Wizard> :P
[20:47] <betrayd> weechat beats all
[20:47] <DJones> !best
[20:47] <Wizard> Well, there was a factoid defined for such questions, but I'm to drunk to remember.
[20:47] <Wizard> Oh.
[20:47] <Wizard> Thanks, DJones .
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> irssi <3
[20:48] <camz> MonkeyDust: ^ that
[20:48] <brainwash> qwebirc hehe
[20:49] <betrayd> heh
[20:51] <betrayd> you never left
[20:52] <Hip[hopp]> !ops skeet skeet
[20:53] <Fatal_Exception> when stpping services should i be using the service blah restart.. or/etc/i.. restart way???? is there a better way?
[20:53] <xtacie> when stopping services should i be using the service blah restart.. or/etc/i.. restart way???? is there a better way?
[20:53] <aaron__> how many watts do you guys use/
[20:54] <bekks> xtacie: service ... is the way to do it.
[20:54] <bekks> !upstart > xtacie
[20:54] <bekks> hmm, bot unavail.
[20:55] <xtacie> ahh, very nice. thank you for the weblink
[20:55] <aaron__> do you guus think that a rate of 13W is a small one?
[20:55] <aaron__> for a laptop
[20:55] <itamar_> ONE
[20:55] <itamar_> UNO
[20:56] <xtacie> i brought home one of the hp proliant serves to play with after i got the video mode issue fixed.. :) its SOO worth being in a HOT room (server is kicking out HEAT!) to be able to play with
[20:56] <xtacie> 13w is like a netbook missing half its components lol. usually 35/40watts are used for netbooks
[20:57] <ubuntu-studio> Hey
[20:57] <netlar> hi
[20:57] <d10n> Is there a way to remove the option to search for non-local applications in the application Unity lens?
[20:57] <xtacie> hola
[20:57] <mgodzill-> runnin' ubuntu 12.04 64bit on a macbook pro 9,2.  applyin' the intel linux graphics drivers killed the trackpad.
[20:57] <jerware> moin.
[20:57] <mgodzill-> any suggestions on where i should start?
[20:57] <aaron__> xtacie: iam using 13.4 W right now
[20:57] <jerware> Do I need special codecs to rip dvds ?  I'm getting a transcode error with k3b
[20:57] <ubuntu-studio> quit
[20:58] <Myrtti> [21:43] < Unit193 ?> Myrtti: Can you OP sandyd in #ubuntuforums?  It was hit  a little by a troll.
[20:58] <xtacie> aaron: what are you powering??
[20:58] <Myrtti> meh
[20:58] <aaron__> xtacie: a laptop ofc
[20:58] <aaron__> xtacie: :D
[21:00] <aaron__> xtacie: http://postimg.org/image/jo6no5n75/
[21:00] <wood> Hello all!
[21:01] <th0r> jerware, can you view the dvd's? If so, you should have the codecs. There was a package called 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' I think, but it may no longer exist
[21:01] <xtacie> ahh yes, but you are discharing your battery right now
[21:01] <netlar> anyone else use pidgin for irc?
[21:01] <aaron__> xtacie: what did you thought?
[21:01] <dublidu> sorry, i havent found a solution in te last hours:
[21:01] <xtacie> i thought you were saying you had a netbook that was using a 13w charger... pills got me loops
[21:01] <xtacie> loopy*
[21:01] <dublidu> i want to execute a command _once_ on a boot _before_ my network is set up. i tried it in /etc/rc.local. unfortunately there it is to late as ifconfig allready shows established network. i dont want to execute the command every time /etc/init.d/networking is executed or any ifup/ifdown.. just once on a system-boot... a cronjob with "@reboot" is too late, too. what is my line here?
[21:01] <aaron__> xtahow much do you use?
[21:01] <aaron__> xtacie:
[21:02] <xtacie> Add command to /etc/rc.local. Make sure the execution bits is set on /etc/rc.local:
[21:02] <xtacie> Code:   echo '/path/to/my/command' >> /etc/rc.local
[21:02] <xtacie> chmod +x /etc/rc.local
[21:03] <xtacie> excuse me, /etc/rc.local.
[21:03] <emr> Hello, how i can disable sudo password asking
[21:03] <dublidu> man visudo
[21:03] <wood> does anyone know which version of windows WINE counts as? I am trying to run a plug in for msoffice for school and I have several options (Win XP, windows 7 X32 and windows 7 X64) currently running Ubuntu 12.04 X64
[21:04] <xtacie> You control sudo through the "sudoers" file. To edit this file, run "sudo visudo". I haven't tested this, but I think the following would allow all users in the "cdrom" group to run "sudo k3b" without needing a password:  %cdrom ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/k3b
[21:04] <xtacie> For more information, see the sudoers man page.
[21:04] <emr> dublidu, i already check and googled, i added my username to sudoers, but not affecting kernel is 3.5.0-28-generic
[21:05] <DJones> wood: Probably best asking that question in ##winehq
[21:05] <auronandace> wood: run winecfg and set it as whatever one you want
[21:05] <wood> DJones ty
[21:05] <wood> Aurondance: Ty too!
[21:05] <auronandace> wood: i think by default it uses xp
[21:06] <dublidu> emr: then dont ask so unspecific. first tell, what you have done _exactly_
[21:06] <xtacie> sudo visudo      add:%group ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/k3b             |   %group ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/amarok
[21:07] <brainwash> netlar, describe your problem, skip asking if anyone uses XYZ :)
[21:07] <utfans05> afternoon all
[21:07] <wood> Aurondance: yes it is set to XP for default ty!
[21:07] <emr> dublidu, i wrote my username wrong, thanks anyway, its working now
[21:08] <auronandace> !tab | wood
[21:08] <dublidu> emr: ok
[21:08] <mojtaba> th0r: HI
[21:09] <mojtaba> th0r: I got these after running the command: sudo mount -t cifs -o credentials=~/.smbcredentials //192.168.1.1/Elements /media/mojtaba/Elements
[21:09] <mojtaba> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.1/Elements,
[21:09] <mojtaba>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[21:09] <mojtaba>        (for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you might
[21:09] <mojtaba>        need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program)
[21:09] <mojtaba>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[21:09] <mojtaba>        dmesg | tail  or so
[21:09] <th0r> mojtaba, hi
[21:09] <Corey> mojtaba: Use a pastebin.
[21:09] <mojtaba> Corey: ok
[21:10] <th0r> mojtaba, you might try opening a terminal and typing 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', then issue the mount command again. It might give more information
[21:11] <th0r> mojtaba, also, sometimes the ~ doesn't work, you need to use the full path...try that
[21:11] <mojtaba> th0r: May 11 17:07:18 mojtaba-Studio-1555 kernel: [166075.903396] EXT3-fs (sdb1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
[21:11] <mojtaba> May 11 17:07:18 mojtaba-Studio-1555 udisksd[3491]: Mounted /dev/sdb1 at /media/mojtaba/Cooldisk on behalf of uid 1000
[21:11] <mojtaba> May 11 17:08:06 mojtaba-Studio-1555 kernel: [166124.325023] CIFS VFS: No username specified
[21:11] <mojtaba> May 11 17:09:01 mojtaba-Studio-1555 CRON[9803]: (root) CMD (  [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -x /usr/lib/php5/sessionclean ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && /usr/lib/php5/sessionclean /var/lib/php5 $(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime))
[21:11] <mojtaba> May 11 17:10:25 mojtaba-Studio-1555 AptDaemon: INFO: Quitting due to inactivity
[21:11] <mojtaba> May 11 17:10:25 mojtaba-Studio-1555 AptDaemon: INFO: Quitting was requested
[21:11] <mojtaba> May 11 17:10:25 mojtaba-Studio-1555 dbus[967]: [system] Activating service name='org.debian.apt' (using servicehelper)
[21:11] <mojtaba> May 11 17:10:28 mojtaba-Studio-1555 AptDaemon: INFO: Initializing daemon
[21:11] <mojtaba> May 11 17:10:28 mojtaba-Studio-1555 dbus[967]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.debian.apt'
[21:11] <mojtaba> May 11 17:10:28 mojtaba-Studio-1555 AptDaemon.PackageKit: INFO: Initializing PackageKit compat layer
[21:12] <dublidu> mojtaba: !
[21:12] <dublidu> mojtaba: pastebin
[21:12] <Corey> mojtaba: Pastebin that stuff! I'm not going to tell you again.
[21:12] <CobraXnaiL> ls
[21:12] <CobraXnaiL> fuck
[21:13] <th0r> mojtaba, also, do you see the error about no username specified?
[21:13] <mojtaba> th0r: Still the same
[21:13] <mojtaba> !language | CobraXnaiL
[21:13] <xtacie> anyone know of any easier way of managing apache virtual hosts.. i dont wana full blown cpanel type system.
[21:14] <Smash_> meladoy you still here?
[21:14] <mojtaba> th0r: Actually I put the user name and password, like this:
[21:14] <dublidu> xtacie: webmin
[21:14] <th0r> mojtaba, you might try, in a terminal, to issue the mount command with just the -t option, the ip, and the mount point. I think it will then prompt you for username and password
[21:14] <xtacie> webmin is more than i need atm
[21:14] <mojtaba> th0r: username="myuser"
[21:14] <mojtaba> password=mypass
[21:15] <mojtaba> th0r: It just gave me error
[21:16] <th0r> mojtaba, pastebin the error
[21:16] <xtacie> i really like Ajenti .. anyone have any horror stories?? seems pretty lightweight and ajax-full
[21:17] <Smash_> anyway i fallowed directions from someone and i ended up crashing my internet, crashing my ubuntu machine and forceing the isp to reasign my ip which took like 15 mins on the phone... FVCK ALL OF YOU HAVE A MEANINGLESS DEATH.... i wont come back 4 this is useless... windows atleast doesnt make me crash the comcast iptable.... bye...
[21:17] <th0r> wow
[21:18] <mojtaba> th0r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5656015/
[21:18] <dublidu> gnhihi
[21:18] <lorph> how do I free a port without a pid number? when I type netstat -anp it shows a "-" instead of a pid number
[21:18] <xtacie> Ubuntu 12.04.2 - (2) Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz, 4 cores
[21:18] <xtacie> CPU usage 	0% user, 0% kernel, 0% IO, 100% idle
[21:18] <xtacie> Real memory 	5.43 GB total, 107.01 MB used
[21:19] <xtacie> what to do with this beast???
[21:19] <dublidu> lorph: free a port with pid? kill it?
[21:19] <auronandace> xtacie: up to you, get suggestions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:19] <th0r> mojtaba, just a guess...try using 'sudo mount.cifs...' instead of mount.
[21:19] <lorph> dublidu: netstat doesn't show a pid number, it shows -
[21:20] <mojtaba> th0r: I used sudo
[21:20] <dublidu> lorph: and?
[21:20] <xtacie> auronandace ty
[21:20] <th0r> mojtaba, do you know for sure what protocol the router supports?
[21:20] <lorph> dublidu: so how I am supposed to kill a process if I don't have the pid number?
[21:20] <th0r> mojtaba, right...you need sudo
[21:20] <dublidu> lorph: killall $name
[21:21] <lorph> dublidu: I don't think you understand, there's no pid number or name
[21:21] <dublidu> lorph: +15
[21:21] <lorph> lsof -ni doesn't show anything and netstat -anp shows a - where the pid number should be
[21:21] <dublidu> lorph: ah no name, too
[21:21] <dublidu> lorph: then your in trouble... and?
[21:22] <dublidu> lorph: do it the windows way... plug it off and on again
[21:22] <smO3000> Where are mail files and configs kept with ubuntu?
[21:22] <dublidu> ;-)
[21:22] <lorph> dublidu: well this is a server and I was hoping not to restart it
[21:23] <dublidu> lorph: that would be the easy way ;-)
[21:23] <lorph> if I have to restart it every time this problem happens then what's the point of using ubuntu
[21:23] <MonkeyDu1t> smO3000  try ~/.config
[21:23] <dublidu> lorph: this problem shouldnt happen
[21:23] <dublidu> lorph: and you dont know, what prozess it is?
[21:24] <lorph> well it looks like I'm not the only person with the problem http://serverfault.com/questions/45010/the-pid-and-name-of-the-program-to-which-socket-belongs
[21:24] <lorph> and there's no solution for it
[21:24] <dublidu> lorph: oh... and what does it have to do with an open port?
[21:24] <lorph> dublidu: I don't know what the process is
[21:24] <lorph> I had a server listening there but I killed it already
[21:24] <__raven> hi
[21:25] <__raven> i have an aopen xcube ea65 with intel 82801EB/ER Chipset - where to find drivers to display its sensors?
[21:26] <ubuntu-studio> Hey
[21:26] <mzabi> Yeaap
[21:27] <Osmodivs> Ok, this is what I am gonna try, I have Bodhi Linux, for some reason I cant boot to CD and neither do USB, I will install the Ubuntu desktop, after that I will delete Bodhi desktop, so after a reboot, I expect an Ubuntu distro installed in my system. Is it safe to do that?
[21:28] <Aethysius> Yes.
[21:28] <Osmodivs> Aethysius, Are you talking to me?
[21:28] <__raven> i have an aopen xcube ea65 with intel 82801EB/ER Chipset - where to find drivers to display its sensors?
[21:29] <Aethysius> However, you can use a utility to make a bootable USB stick.
[21:29] <DJones> Osmodivs: Bodhi Linux isn't a supported distribution in this channel
[21:29] <xtacie> raven: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2142091
[21:30] <Aethysius> Osmodivs, when you boot, after making the bootable USB stick,  go to boot options, and select USB.
[21:30] <Osmodivs> DJones, I am trying to instaall UBUNTU in my system, it is as if I had Windows, Are you gonna send me to a Windows channel?
[21:30] <DJones> Osmodivs: Installing Ubuntu should work fine, it should install its own version of grub so you'll be able to remove bodhi linux
[21:31] <Osmodivs> Aethysius, I have an old Laptop who does not accept USB boot, and for some reason I cant boot from CD either, even tough I choose that in the BIOS
[21:31] <DJones> Osmodivs: No probs, I pressed enter before I'd finished typing, had to do the 2nd line on its own
[21:32] <betrayd> Osmodivs: always run the md5sum check, that awy the CD will be bootable
[21:32] <betrayd> way*
[21:33] <Osmodivs> betrayd, MD5SUM is fine, I even installed the same livedvd to another laptop, the problem must be my old laptop
[21:33] <Osmodivs> wich is weird because I installed 10.04 and worked fine, must be a new line of code in 13.04 or something
[21:35] <__raven> i have an aopen xcube ea65 with intel 82801EB/ER Chipset - where to find drivers to display its sensors?
[21:35] <betrayd> Osmodivs: oh no, but there is plop, a utility that will load usb drivers so you can boot from usb (even if BIOS wouldn't allow it)
[21:36] <Osmodivs> betrayd, Yeah, they even suggested me SUPERGRUB2 but does nothing, I am no expert either :D
[21:36] <Daemoen> can anyone explain why chmod g+rws displays rwS in some cases rws in others  on ubuntu ?
[21:37] <Eduard> Hello everyone
[21:37] <Daemoen> seems to do rws for dir rwS for file
[21:37] <betrayd> hey Eduard
[21:37] <reisio> Eduard: 'lo
[21:37] <Daemoen> so is it just a way of differentiating the ls display ?
[21:37] <Daemoen> posix doesnt support S so im curious why
[21:38] <__raven> i have an aopen xcube ea65 with intel 82801EB/ER Chipset - where to find drivers to display its sensors?
[21:38] <Eduard> Does anybody know if there is a way to import photos from nokia lumia 920 to pc in 13.04? Shotwell refuses to work for me
[21:38] <aaron__> i want to change the background from the grub2. how can i do that?
[21:39] <OerHeks> Eduard what format? .raw ?
[21:39] <Eduard> 0erHeks: .jpeg
[21:39] <reisio> .jpeg is a filename extension
[21:40] <Eduard> .jpg
[21:40] <Eduard> the standart one
[21:41] <Eduard> i could pull the photos one by one through nautilus, but i need some sort of sync solution
[21:42] <bekks> Eduard: Use rsync then, or digikam.
[21:42] <jaymartinez> how do i get rid of this onscreen keyboard that pops up at the login screen then again after i login?
[21:44] <fredu> hey
[21:46] <homerj> I've got a turtlebeach headset, worked fine in 12.10, in 13.04, it either gets picked up as an input or output, but not both
[21:46] <homerj> what's the conflict here?
[21:46] <Eduard> uhm
[21:47] <Eduard> shotwell imported the photos somehow, but they show up as unrendered thumbnails
[21:47] <Eduard> dafuq
[21:47] <fredu> I installed a font (terminus) but I can't select it as the terminal font. what do?
[21:47] <SonikkuAmerica> !wtf | Eduard
[21:47] <fredu> I can't select it as any font*
[21:48] <Eduard> sorry for swearing :/
[21:48] <SonikkuAmerica> 'T's all good, but just be careful
[21:49] <neekz0r> huh.. this is an unusual case; fresh install, ubuntu 12.04LTS can't find the 802.1q interface, even though the kernel has the module loaded -- nothing in dmesg/syslog (i know the hardware works)
[21:53] <betrayd> fredu: for your terminals on the GUI desktop?
[21:53] <jaymartinez> how do i get rid of this onscreen keyboard that pops up at the login screen then again after i login?
[21:54] <fredu> betrayd, yes
[21:55] <MonkeyDu1t> jaymartinez  i guess it's called orca
[21:55] <__raven> i have an aopen xcube ea65 with intel 82801EB/ER Chipset - where to find drivers to display its sensors?
[21:59] <jaymartinez> MonkeyDu1t, so how do i shut it down?
[22:00] <hag> i need help
[22:01] <hag> hello?
[22:01] <siegie> hag: what kind of help :)
[22:01] <sha1sum> Hey all. Have an HP DV7 with an interal analog stereo device and an HDMI device, and both were working great in OpenSUSE with an earlier version of pretty much everything than I have now on my Kubuntu setup...
[22:01] <sha1sum> however, now the HDMI output is not showing in any pulse mixers, but shows on alsamixer.
[22:04] <siegie> sha1sum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1915772 --> seems to be old but maybe it works :)
[22:10] <dhci> does anyone know where I can get the opencl libraries (release 1.2) for ubuntu? i see the headers at the main opencl site but not really the download source
[22:10] <TheLordOfTime> !netsplit
[22:11] <dhci> nm I do have it on my machine already
[22:11] <giulio> hi
[22:11] <reisio> hi
[22:11] <giulio> !list
[22:11] <reisio> giulio: yes, stop trying to warez
[22:12] <reisio> :p
[22:12] <dhci> i'm really surprised that it seems included with the gfx driver, it seems like an add on package that the vendors wouldn't deal with on their own
[22:12] <giulio> sorry
[22:12] <neekz0r> interesting, since when did !list become a warez only thing?
[22:12] <reisio> neekz0r: what's the point in having a bot if it isn't wrong a lot and spammy
[22:12] <neekz0r> this is true
[22:12] <neekz0r> are eggdrops still popular?
[22:12] <reisio> !botarsenic
[22:12] <reisio> AFAIK
[22:12]  * reisio shrugs
[22:12] <lmat> Often (every time?) when I start my computer (using Ubuntu), the window manager doesn't show up and I'm put onto tty1 by default.
[22:13] <gogo4> !give me some arsenic
[22:13]  * ViVaLaRock gives me a laptop
[22:13] <gogo4> haha :)
[22:13] <lmat> This I don't mind, except that "service lightdm status" returns that it's running (and its PID).
[22:13] <lmat> I CTRL+ALT+F7 and it's a black screen.
[22:13] <reisio> ubottu: not much chance of that
[22:13] <lmat> so I sudo service lightdm restart   and it works fine. Does anyone know what's going on?
[22:13] <reisio> parrot
[22:13] <neekz0r> anything in the logs?
[22:13] <reisio> lmat: sounds like it isn't starting
[22:14] <lmat> reisio: Sorry, my posts are pretty spaced out with all the traffic in here. I said that "service lightdm status" says that it is started and has a PID.
[22:14] <lmat> s/started/running
[22:14] <reisio> lmat: what about pgrep?
[22:15] <lmat> reisio: You want me to see if the process is running using pgrep?
[22:15] <reisio> yup
[22:15] <lmat> reisio: brb.
[22:17] <lmat> reisio: Okay, the problem is manifest right now.
[22:17] <reisio> lmat: yeah?
[22:17] <lmat> reisio: pgrep lightdm   = 1238
[22:17] <reisio> lmat: ew
[22:17] <lmat> service lightdm status   returns the same PID.
[22:17] <reisio> maybe it's starting earlier than its deps
[22:18] <lmat> reisio: This seems reasonable.
[22:18] <lmat> reisio: Although, surely there's a mechanism to prevent that from happening?
[22:18] <reisio> lmat: upstart, theoretically :p
[22:18] <lmat> reisio: you know...it may have to do with my monitor situation...
[22:18] <reisio> lmat: check out /var/log/lightdm
[22:18] <lmat> reisio: I often change the amount and which monitors I'm using...
[22:19] <reisio> mm, wouldn't be my first guess
[22:19] <lmat> reisio: I'm using a laptop. It seems that the problem only manifests itself when I'm docked (so the laptop monitor is not being used, and two external monitors are being used).
[22:19] <lmat> reisio: Nothing interesting in lightdm.log   but there are five others ^_^
[22:20] <reisio> ohhhh
[22:20] <reisio> like maybe it's trying to show the login screen on one that doesn't exist
[22:20] <lmat> reisio: perhaps.
[22:20] <reisio> I could believe that
[22:20] <lmat> how cute, "write 35 bytes to daemon"   "Read 8 bytes from daemon"  come on!
[22:20] <reisio> that sounds super useful
[22:21] <lmat> hey!
[22:21] <lmat> x-0.log:
[22:21] <lmat> "Fatal server error: no screens found (EE) Please consult The X.Org Foundation support ...
[22:22] <lmat> it points me to /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:22] <lmat> no screens found :)
[22:22] <lmat> genius
[22:22] <lmat> oh... "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration"
[22:22] <lmat> But it must be a boot-up-time problem because when I service lightdm restart, it works just fine.
[22:23] <lmat> brb, starting my window server...
[22:25] <lmat> reisio: yo
[22:25] <smj> This one Java program is eating the whole CPU while doing absolutely nothing... I'm using OpenJDK7, should I try other JREs too?
[22:26] <reisio> smj: try turning the program off
[22:26] <reisio> lmat: yoyo
[22:26] <lmat> smj: absolutely nothing? Doesn't sound like it :P
[22:27] <smj> I've noticed that other Java programs use ridiculous amounts of CPU too
[22:28] <reisio> that's practically what 'java' means
[22:28] <lmat> smj: it's odd. I run java quite a bit and it doesn't munch up my processor.
[22:28] <lmat> smj...all the time
[22:30] <lmat> reisio: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1009612
[22:30] <lmat> resure: The last post.
[22:30] <lmat> eek...
[22:30] <lmat> I don't know if mine hands will let me type malloc!
[22:30] <reisio> lmat: on page 2?
[22:31] <lmat> reisio: no
[22:32] <lmat> reisio: sorry :( page 1 :)
[22:32] <reisio> that looks nice and hairy
[22:33] <dgyoungiii> who wants to atlk
[22:34] <Loshki> dgyoungiii: feel free to chat on #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:34] <reisio> or #ubuntu-ffotpic, as the case may be
[22:34] <neekz0r|2> thank the gods for ipmi
[22:38] <subcool> Hey is anyone familiiar with raid
[22:38] <subcool> i believe raid 0
[22:39] <lmat> subcool: That's not a question ^_^
[22:39] <subcool> im reading about it- but, there is too much to read since im in serach mode. I have two old 120gb drives that were setup with raid. Raid 0 or raid 1.
[22:40] <neekz0r> yes
[22:40] <lmat> subcool: ok :)
[22:40] <subcool> The machine died years ago, and i've been saving these two drives sicne then. They have infomratoin on it that i'd like to pull off from it
[22:40] <neekz0r> i am very familar with raid
[22:40] <neekz0r> what do you need to know?
[22:40] <subcool> Just a couple basics to ge tmyself on the path
[22:40] <lmat> subcool: Ah, so you want to install them on your new computer.
[22:40] <subcool> my thought was recover- but it appears that its a linux software raid, not a hardware raid.
[22:40] <subcool> atleast i think?
[22:40] <subcool> im going in circles ...
[22:40] <neekz0r> okay, raid0 -- fast and lots of storage space, but unrealiable, the more disks you add the faster and bigger it gets along with it's unreliablity
[22:41] <subcool> i cant remember what it is
[22:41] <neekz0r> raid1: fast reads, normal writes, reliable but half as much space
[22:41] <subcool> i just tried.. :  http://paste.kde.org/741920
[22:42] <lmat> subcool: you should probably just mount it as one, and see if the data are readable.
[22:42] <neekz0r> linux raids are (somewhat) specially formated
[22:43] <subcool> i really just want to get the info off and start fresh.
[22:43] <neekz0r> do you remember if it was raid1 or raid0?
[22:43] <subcool> no- :/
[22:43] <neekz0r> or what the total space was?
[22:43] <subcool> nope..
[22:44] <subcool> it was a long long time ago
[22:44] <neekz0r> yikes
[22:44] <subcool> yeah-
[22:44] <bekks> neekz0r: Huh?
[22:44] <subcool> i probably set it up as 0
[22:44] <subcool> but i just really dont remember
[22:47] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:47] <neekz0r> hmm
[22:47] <lmat> NOOO!! NOT NETSPLIT!!! AAAHHHH
[22:47] <subcool> i was going back and forth between 0 and 1, but then the Powersupply of hte box died.
[22:47] <neekz0r> what happens when you try to read the partition?
[22:47] <subcool> it cant
[22:47] <subcool> i tried opening gparted
[22:47] <bekks> neekz0r: Trying to read it in which case?
[22:47] <subcool> but- im really noob at this
[22:47] <subcool> i set this up years ago to et my foot in the door, and then my system crashed.
[22:47] <neekz0r> ie, something like fdisk
[22:47] <neekz0r> fdisk /dev/sdf
[22:47] <subcool> gparted cant read it
[22:47] <neekz0r> okay, are you sure it's a software raid?
[22:49] <neekz0r> and who exactly is having raid issues? :P
[22:49] <subcool> wtf is goign on
[22:50] <neekz0r> freenode is probably being ddosed or something
[22:50] <subcool> it coulda been a fake raid
[22:50] <subcool> i remember wanting to set it up as a hardware raid-
[22:50] <elisa87> How can I create static binary using this Makefile? Which changes should I do in this Makefile? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5656261/
[22:52] <subcool> but then when it was all set and done- it was setup as a software raid
[22:52] <subcool> or something.
[22:52] <neekz0r> elisa87: use ./configure, depends on what you are configuring but is usually --enable-static
[22:52] <subcool> i couldnt get help for it- and then the system crashed
[22:52] <_kalo_> hola, hay canal de ubuntu en castellano ??????????
[22:52] <bekks> elisa87: add -static to the cc flags.
[22:52] <subcool> neekz0r, fdisk brings me to command:
[22:52] <elisa87> bekks which line you mean and where should I exactly put the -static flag?
[22:52] <neekz0r> type p
[22:52] <Kungpung> Hello can i chat here for help?
[22:52] <bekks> elisa87: line 3
[22:52] <elisa87> bekks CC = gcc (where should I put -static?) before or after gcc ? (possibly after)
[22:52] <smj> I remember somewhere was recently mentioned some tool that allows to run programs, using only the CPU idle time
[22:52] <bekks> elisa87: Thats line 2.
[22:52] <bekks> smj: "nice"
[22:52] <smj> bekks, no.
[22:52] <elisa87> bekks CC_FLAGS = -g -fopenmp  -O2 Should I put -static after -g ?
[22:52] <bekks> elisa87: Or at the end of the line.
[22:52] <subcool> neekz0r, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5656272
[22:52] <neekz0r> okay, raid is still there so that's good
[22:55] <subcool> neekz0r, when i try to start the array with disk utility, it says components are missing?
[22:55] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:58] <gueriLLaPunK> uhh...whats the cmd to find out what version of ubunt you're running?
[22:59] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: lsb_release -a
[22:59] <gueriLLaPunK> ty
[23:00] <Bauer> uys, after reboot after the last big Raring update, I couldnt boot until I switched to older kernel
[23:00] <Bauer> it is consistent, but the trace runs pretty fast and no scroll so I cant quite tell what is the source of the error, except something about 'recursive call
[23:05] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[23:05] <gueriLLaPunK> when making a new user... i put them in the user group? what about sudo group?
[23:06] <WeThePeople> you can assign a group permissions
[23:06] <th0r> gueriLLaPunK, normally no, unless you want them to have root priviliges
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> !visudo
[23:06] <Brittany> Is there any  way I can prevent these damned 'system software problem detected' messages from popping up constantly in 13.04?
[23:06] <gueriLLaPunK> i just created a user with 1000, i think. isa that enough to run sudo?
[23:06] <WeThePeople> what is a /var/crash?
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> Brittany, apport is the app, http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[23:08] <__raven> i have an aopen xcube ea65 with intel 82801EB/ER Chipset - where to find drivers to display its sensors?
[23:08] <Brittany> wonderful
[23:08] <Brittany> Much love in your direction, wilee-nilee .
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[23:09] <elisa87> bekks Thank you so much. Now it's working fine. Actually I received "kernel too old" error and I had to add -m32 flag in the same line as well CC_FLAGS = -g -fopenmp  -O2 -static -m32
[23:09] <Dr_Willis_> !sensors
[23:10] <Brittany> (Sometimes wonders if that package is accurate with my CPU since it averages around 20c)
[23:11] <elisa87> bekks do you know why I am receiving this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5656333/
[23:12] <clempe> hello I'm tried to install fancontrol but it says "no pwm-capable sensor modules installed" but i can display the temperature with sensors. Did i anything wrong or is there no support for my notebook (dell inspirion 7520)
[23:13] <bekks> elisa87: No, since I have no clue what your program does.
[23:13] <elisa87> ah i see ! I wish I knew!
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> !info gkrellm
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> clempe, ^^^
[23:14] <clempe> wilee-nilee: ?^^
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> clempe, gkrellm is a gui controller
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> temps fan speed..etc see if it works.
[23:15] <envogue> so i installed ubuntu a while ago but i dont get a dual boot option
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> envogue, Details, what type of install and what OS's?
[23:17] <monstarmikie> is there a way to prevent an mtp device from opening a window whenever it is plugged in or is turned on?
[23:18] <clempe> gkrellm: i can display my temperature but the fan is running at full speed and i tried to install fancontrol which require lm-sensors. my problem is not to display the temperatures
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> monstarmikie, settings-details-removable media, maybe
[23:20] <envogue> wilee-nilee: i installed ubuntu from an usb and i have windows 8 which works
[23:20] <clempe> wilee-nilee: i can display my temperature but the fan is running at full speed and i tried to install fancontrol which require lm-sensors. my problem is not to display the temperatures
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> envogue, Have you looked at the uefi wiki, not much general help with uefi as it a bit per manufacturer specific.
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> clempe, Not sure really as far as a complete answer.
[23:22] <WeThePeople> headphones not working in 12.04.2 x64, ive checked eveything, any ideas
[23:22] <costa_> ping
[23:28] <munzx> hi! i have just installed ubuntu 13.4 , its awesome! thnx for the good work ,,,,, but the processor fan is spinning fast and makes noise! , i had similar issue before and i fixed by installing an app which i forgot its name!!! btw , i was using mint 13 for about a year and i did not have such issue!
[23:29] <gueriLLaPunK> oh, so i installed ext2 volume manager in windows 7 so i can transfer some files, but i cant write to my ubuntu partition. windows is telling me the disk is write protected. how do i remove it?
[23:29] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: You dont. Doing so, you will trash your filesystem.
[23:30] <Dr_Willis_> gueriLLaPunK:  ive seen windows trash ext2/3 filesystems with those tools.. best to do read only
[23:30] <gueriLLaPunK> so how do i transfer between the two file systems? :(
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> gueriLLaPunK, Not sure there is a solid app for reading ext4's from windows most have a shared ntfs
[23:30] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: I doubt you have a ext4 fs, which will be corrupted when trying to write to it like ext2/3
[23:30] <gueriLLaPunK> i have ubuntu 13.4 installed
[23:30] <WeThePeople> headphones not working in 12.04.2 x64, ive checked everything, any ideas
[23:31] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: Setup a shared ntfs volume.
[23:31] <gueriLLaPunK> so i need to go into ubuntu and make a shared ntfs volume?
[23:31] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: No. You can setup a shared ntfs from windows too.
[23:32] <gueriLLaPunK> ok awesome! how do i do that? :(
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> gueriLLaPunK, If you have unallocated space windows or ubuntu can make a ntfs.
[23:32] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: By formatting a partition as NTFS,
[23:32] <gueriLLaPunK> shoot. i used all my space to ext3/4 or whatever it is
[23:32] <gueriLLaPunK> i dont have any unallocated space
[23:33] <munzx> hi! i have just installed ubuntu 13.4 , its awesome! thnx for the good work ,,,,, but the processor fan is spinning fast and makes noise! , i had similar issue before and i fixed by installing an app which i forgot its name!!!
[23:33] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: Then you cant setup a shared ntfs.
[23:33] <gueriLLaPunK> ok so if i reinstall ubuntu... what should i do? make ext4 for ubuntu and make a large ntfs partition?
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> gueriLLaPunK, You can resize partitions, but be aware of amounts of and partition types, in limitations.
[23:34] <bekks> You can use gparted live cd for resizing and create a NTFS partition. Be sure to backup your entire disk before.
[23:34] <gueriLLaPunK> can i just allocate a small portion of ubuntu to ext (like 4GB?
[23:34] <gueriLLaPunK> i can reinstall ubuntu
[23:34] <gueriLLaPunK> since this was a fresh install
[23:34] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: You dont need to reinstall.
[23:34] <gueriLLaPunK> it seems easier to reinstall
[23:34] <smjc> I guess I need a quad-core for running Java stuff
[23:35] <gueriLLaPunK> i never messed with gparted
[23:35] <bekks> smjc: I doubt it.
[23:35] <bekks> smjc: There is not much software actually using more than one core.
[23:36] <harrisr> what is the webcam chat program for ubuntu calle
[23:36] <harrisr> d
[23:36] <harrisr> Dr_Willis_,
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> xchat
[23:36] <Dr_Willis_> !im
[23:36] <bekks> harrisr: There is no such program. :)
[23:36] <harrisr> i cant use my webcam to video chat
[23:36] <bekks> harrisr: So which program do you use?
[23:36] <Dr_Willis_> video chat how?
[23:37] <smjc> in htop the program had two 'lines' running at 100%... but only one core was at 100%, how does that work?
[23:37] <harrisr>  i want to video chat with my friends
[23:37] <gueriLLaPunK> but to answer my previous question... how do i write to ext with ext2fsd? i dont have permission since its write protected
[23:37] <bekks> smjc: htop needs a small amount of time to display values.
[23:37] <Dr_Willis_> harrisr:  and what app are you trying to use?
[23:37] <bekks> gueriLLaPunK: You dont. You will screw up your filesystems.
[23:38] <harrisr> i need to know the best app
[23:38] <Dr_Willis_> google voice should work.
[23:38] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[23:38] <bekks> !best | harrisr
[23:38] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[23:39] <SmallFry> anyone have any luck with cpan?
[23:39]  * SmallFry is having a bit of trouble
[23:39] <harrisr> what do you use to video chat
[23:39] <harrisr> what do you use to video chat
[23:39] <bekks> SmallFry: Which troule?
[23:39] <SmallFry> http://pastebin.com/y5QhbRAw
[23:39] <SmallFry> installing XML::Simple
[23:40] <Dr_Willis_> google voice should work. harrisr
[23:40] <SmallFry> bah, bbiab
[23:40] <SmallFry> sorry
[23:40] <bekks> harrisr: FaceTime on iPhone. :)
[23:40] <harrisr> so sudo apt-get install google voice
[23:40] <bekks> SmallFry: Which troule?
[23:40] <Prock> with out doing startx, if i just want to run one gui app by xinit application.... that works but how can i enable Alt+Right-Click to drag, or use the windows key?
[23:40] <sha1sum> Hey all... mixers are not recognizing my HDMI audio output, even though the image is fine. Switching to proprietary drivers did no good. alsamixer, however, recognizes the HDMI card and so does aplay -l
[23:41] <sha1sum> googled for the past two hours to no avail
[23:41] <Prock> netsplit aaaahhhhhh with out doing startx, if i just want to run one gui app by xinit application.... that works but how can i enable Alt+Right-Click to drag, or use the windows key?
[23:41] <Runemoro> Hi, when I do X -configure, it tells me "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices."
[23:41] <Runemoro> How can I fix this?
[23:42] <munzx> help plz!
[23:42] <munzx> how can i reduce the fan noise?
[23:42] <mijk> hey, anyone here familiar with Ubuntu for PPC?
[23:43] <Prock> is now a bat with all the ppl leaving and joining cause of the net split, are the smart ppl on  ?
[23:43] <Prock> bad time*
[23:43] <co-loco> hi all - is there a good ppa with google-chrome?
[23:43] <sha1sum> Well, I'm here, so one of them is at least! ;)
[23:43] <Dr_Willis_> mijk:  last i used PPC linux/ubuntu - it dident work very well
[23:43] <zeep> chrome installs its own repo
[23:43] <Dr_Willis_> co-loco:  google has their own ppa/repo i belive
[23:43] <Prock> with out doing startx, if i just want to run one gui app by xinit application.... that works but how can i enable Alt+Right-Click to drag, or use the windows key?
[23:43] <zeep> co-loco, just download the file from google
[23:43] <co-loco> hi zeep - how exactly?
[23:43] <sha1sum> co-loco: the regular chrome download should work just fine.
[23:43] <mijk> Dr_Willis_, buggy?
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> good is subjective
[23:44] <zeep> co-loco, just install the deb file they provide. it does it automatically
[23:44] <Dr_Willis_> mijk:  had lots of bugs... but that was 3+ yrs ago - its not  a very maintained release
[23:44] <mijk> I see
[23:45] <mijk> I'm bored, looking to use another platform
[23:45] <Dr_Willis_> mijk:  what ppc system do you have exactly?
[23:45] <Prock> who can help with enableing Alt Click Dragging in xinit app ?????????
[23:46] <bekks> Prock: Using xinit, you have no window manager, and thus there is no dragging available.
[23:46] <mijk> Dr_Willis_, powermac g5
[23:46] <Prock> bekks, ive done it before on other distros
[23:47] <bekks> Prock: Then you had a window manager.
[23:47] <co-loco> how will updates be tracked if I manually install a .deb?
[23:47] <harrisr> i installed google-talkplugin how do i run it
[23:47] <bekks> co-loco: They wont.
[23:47] <Runemoro> Hi, when I do X -configure, it tells me "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices."
[23:47] <Prock> there was no window manager at that time
[23:47] <Runemoro> How can I fix this?
[23:47] <Dr_Willis_> co-loco:  the google chrome deb.. enables a ppa
[23:47] <Dr_Willis_> co-loco:  its somewhat rare for debs to do that
[23:47] <co-loco> ok - then that's not the solution I'm looking for - hence I'm looking for a ppa if one exists
[23:48] <sha1sum> So you're looking for a solution to something no one else recognizes as a problem?
[23:48] <Prock> i just did xinit whatever and i could alt click drag, so how can i enable it with out a wm
[23:48] <co-loco> no - couldn't I just manually add the ppa?
[23:48] <bekks> Prock: You cant, without a wm.
[23:48] <Dr_Willis_> why do you not want to use a wm?
[23:49] <Dr_Willis_> co-loco:  you can manually add it.. the google-chrome deb enables the google ppa last i looked.
[23:49] <ghost-warrior> hi ubuntu'ers
[23:49] <Dr_Willis_> !chrome
[23:49] <Prock> so what is a wm that u cant see, no features except alt draging, dont want the title bar at all
[23:49] <co-loco> and the google chrome-deb is on google's websire, correct
[23:50] <sha1sum> Prock: you have to have a window manager if you want to be able to even switch windows or drag them... What you mean is no decorations.
[23:50] <sha1sum> Not sure that I've seen anything like that, although some of the lighter-weight WM's may be able to do that.
[23:50] <ghost-warrior> If there is a virus (like a rat) on a virtual machine of windows . Can it gain access to my HD (sorry for trolling)
[23:50] <Prock> im doing xinit vmware, no more windows
[23:51] <Dr_Willis_> ghost-warrior:  vm's normally cant access the rest of the system
[23:51] <Daemoen> ghost-warrior: depends on how it is setup, if youre using an isolated disk image, then no, if youre using a shared partition, yes.
[23:51] <at-219> split?
[23:51] <Dr_Willis_> ghost-warrior:  unless you have shares setup or other setup
[23:52] <ghost-warrior> Dr_Willis_,  I think i got it on a virtual hard disk image. The virus is in the windows activator..!
[23:52] <harrisr> is empathy a video chat
[23:52] <harrisr> !empathy
[23:53] <ghost-warrior> I'm using vm-box
[23:53] <Dr_Willis_> ghost-warrior:  windows activator? you mean some hack took to regiester windows ?
[23:53] <Prock> im using vmware 9.0.2, the latest
[23:53] <ghost-warrior> Dr_Willis_,  Yes.
[23:54] <Dr_Willis_> ghost-warrior:  really not  in the 'ubuntu support' catagory.. not even sure how legal that is.. sounds like you may want to find a more legit way to use windows in the vm
[23:54] <zeep> how come wine  is a dependency for winetricks ;o
[23:54] <zeep> i guess it kinda makes sense. could just download it from the site if you need it by itself
[23:54] <Dr_Willis_> ghost-warrior:  the VM will have access to networking. unless you disable the network in the vm. so its not going tobe totally locked down
[23:55] <Neldogz> Hey everyone, what is the proper way to setup dual screens in Ubuntu? I have 2 screens setup using Nvidia Proprietary drivers in TwinView config. Is this the correct option?
[23:56] <ghost-warrior> Dr_Willis_: yeh, sorry. I wiped my official win 8 installing 12.10 :(  And i hadn't made a recovery disk.. Fail
[23:56] <sha1sum> I recently switched to 13.04 from OpenSUSE 12.2, where my HDMI audio output was working fine alongside my internal audio and I could switch application output from one to the other... Now ALSA recognizes my HDMI output by mixers using pulse do not.
[23:56] <sha1sum> Anyone ever see this? I've googled for the past two hours to no avail.
[23:57] <harrisr> how can i send a video call through empathy
[23:57] <ghost-warrior> sha1sum,  I'm having issues getting my HDMI output working on 12.10, Tried installing driver everything ??
[23:57] <sha1sum> harrisr: It has good Google Talk audio support, not sure about video, though.
[23:58] <sha1sum> ghost-warrior: I've tried the proprietary AMD/ATI drivers and all that did was (ironically) screw up my video where I couldn't get the HDMI resolution past 1600x900. The audio situation, however, stayed the same.
[23:58] <Prock> so is there a wm that has no features, no hot keys, and forces everything full screen, no title bars (min/max/close) no menu bar to the wm its self, so only way to open an app is to call it with the wm
[23:58] <ghost-warrior> sha1sum, It worked fine on karmic 9.10
[23:58] <sha1sum> Prock: you're looking for some kind of kiosk functionality. That's where I'd start searching.
[23:59] <bekks> Prock: No, there isnt.
[23:59] <Dr_Willis_> Prock:  whats the point of this  anyway?
[23:59] <ghost-warrior> Thanks for the help. night all .. TC
[23:59] <Prock> the lightest wm on the planet with the least features
[23:59] <sha1sum> Dr_Willis_: I could imagine if he were running some kind of kiosk it might be useful.
[23:59] <Dr_Willis_> jwm is about the lightest wm ive seen
[23:59] <SunStar> is this normal for a machine that started out as 13.04 beta1? "Err http://ppa.launchpad.net raring/main i386 Packages 404 not found, http://ppa.launchpad.net raring/main amd64 Packages 404 not found"
[23:59] <Dr_Willis_> !info jwm
[23:59] <Prock> kiosk? sha1sum