[00:44] <Miningdude> Hello!
[00:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> hello
[00:47] <Miningdude> How are you today?
[00:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> I am well, and yourself? something I can help with? general chatter goes in xubunt-offtopic
[00:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> *xubuntu-offtoptic
[00:51] <Miningdude> Nothing to help with right now; Just wanting to join the #XUbuntu community!
[01:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> Miningdude: welcome, then!
[01:09] <Miningdude> Thank you ntzrmtthihu777! Installing xUbuntu in a Virtual Machine, on crap internet is FUN!
[01:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol. setting up a server on crap internet, now *that* is fun
[01:25] <Miningdude> Have a problem now; In the VM (Virtualbox) I just finished the install and it told me to reboot. Hit the reboot button, and now it is stuck at a "Caught Signal 15, Shutting Down..."
[01:25] <Miningdude> screen
[01:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> no clue, sir. sorry I have no answer for you :(
[01:32] <Miningdude> Going to post a pic of the screen
[01:33] <Miningdude> (Taken with iPod Touch 5g. Sorry for size)
[01:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> should get scrot + imagebinit (custom bash script)
[01:35] <Miningdude> http://i.imgur.com/InbJaE6.jpg
[01:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> sorry, no clue sir. perhaps another can assist?
[01:36] <Miningdude> Installed xUbuntu 13.04 (I believe, let me check the iso name) on a virtual machine. After install, I rebooted and it gave me that screen.
[01:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> I've lost sound, any care to assist? perhaps its due to an ongoing install of StarCraft II
[01:37] <bwat47> does your sound card show in the sound settings or does it just show dummy output
[01:37] <Miningdude> Check http://reddit.com/r/xUbuntu ?
[01:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> bwat47: it shows the true sound card, it just died :/
[01:39] <bwat47> is it via hdmi?
[01:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> bwat47: nope, onboard speakers. lemme test the headphone jack real quick.
[01:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> bwat47: nvm, I did sudo service pulseaudio restart and it restored. Problem solved.
[02:32] <Starcraftmazter> hihihihihih
[02:32] <Starcraftmazter> whats the differene between fglrx and fglrx-proprietry
[02:32] <Starcraftmazter> sorry updates
[02:32] <Starcraftmazter> flgrx-updates
[02:33] <Starcraftmazter> fglrx*
[02:33] <Starcraftmazter> dfgd
[02:54] <[0gb_us]> When I buy software from the Ubuntu Software Center, is there a way to save the downloaded package for my archives?
[05:44] <asto-os> i wont install font in gnome-terminal
[06:47] <Needles> Oh for the love of, I can't find a nickname that isn't taken. I'll rejoin when I find one.
[07:45] <Manolitico> hii
[07:45] <Manolitico> i need help
[07:45] <Manolitico> my speakers doesn't sound
[07:45] <Manolitico> when i installed wine the sound icon dissapeared from the icon bar
[07:45] <Manolitico> and then i instlaled xfce4-mixer
[07:46] <Manolitico> i put it in the icon bar and changed the volume and then, it doesn't sound
[07:46] <Manolitico> everything is correct
[07:46] <Manolitico> in alsamixer everything correct
[07:46] <Manolitico> any help?
[07:48] <bazhang> !patience | Manolitico
[07:54] <nicklasbo> Hi All. Periodically my computer becomes laggy, the HD activity led is constantly on and in iotop i see one process using most of the io. See its long command in http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653737/. I'm running Xubuntu 13.04. Can this be mitigated this?
[07:56] <bazhang> which process
[07:56] <Manolitico> my propblem is solved with pavucontrol :)
[07:57] <bazhang> nice work Manolitico
[07:57] <nicklasbo> The command was in the paste, the rest of iotop is 3903 idle nobody 2.57 M/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 82.31 %.
[07:57] <Manolitico> i have to go
[07:57] <Manolitico> bye
[07:57] <bazhang> which process nicklasbo ? a torrent client?
[07:58] <nicklasbo> No, it is find
[07:58] <bazhang> bye
[07:58] <nicklasbo> But I'm not running find
[07:58] <nicklasbo> the find command is in the paste.
[07:59] <nicklasbo> It stopped now, but it runs from time to time with resulting freeze-ups of the UI.
[08:02] <th0r> nicklasbo, I wonder if it might be related to gvfs-backends. I used to encounter major delays opening thunar and traced it to that. I now remove that as a matter of course when installing xfce
[08:03] <fallore> if i disabled my drives from showing on my desktop, whats the fastest way to access a file manager? there isn't one in the top left dropdown menu for me
[08:03] <th0r> fallore, add Places to the panel
[08:04] <fallore> ty :)
[08:05] <nicklasbo> th0r, will look into it :) Are there any way to inspect who spawned the find?
[08:05] <fallore> oh man thats so much better :D
[08:05] <th0r> nicklasbo, I am sure there is, but I don't know it offhand
[08:06] <nicklasbo> ok, thanks :)
[08:07] <th0r> nicklasbo, as I understand it, gvfs-backends indexes the network drives to allow Thunar to access them directly. That find command seems to be searching for networked file systems for some reason. (not a bash guru...so didn't decode the entire thing_
[08:11] <nicklasbo> OK, do you now if there are any side effects of doing apt-get remove gvfs-backends?
[08:11] <nicklasbo> know*
[08:12] <th0r> nicklasbo, I haven't found anything noticeable. If you check the web you should find some links about it...that is where I got the idea. Was searching for ways to speed up thunar and found that.
[08:12] <nicklasbo> Great, will give it a go then. I can always just install it again. Thanks!
[08:14] <th0r> nicklasbo, http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=21742
[08:20] <donnie> I dig the new 13.04 but how come Chrome won't work?
[08:22] <nicklasbo> th0r, The following packages will be REMOVED:  gvfs-backends software-center xubuntu-desktop :-)
[08:22] <th0r> donnie, if you run chrome from the command line you might see an error that will help
[08:23] <donnie> I downloaded the deb. how can I try and install it from the command? Sudo apt-get install chrome?
[08:23] <nicklasbo> donnie, there is a depedency error with libudev0 right?
[08:23] <th0r> nicklasbo, wow....wonderful how they have linked that all together. Removing xubuntu desktop is ok...it is just a meta-package. Don;'t know about software centre....but I dont use it so wouldn;'t miss it <smile>
[08:23] <donnie> nicklasbo: yes
[08:24] <nicklasbo> donnie, Chrome have a fixed in there repository, but it haven't reached stable yet.
[08:24] <donnie> Ok. so I will wait a bit. I have chromium now so I'm good
[08:24] <nicklasbo> Ok, you could run their daily/nighly builds.
[08:25] <donnie> Yeah. I'll stick with the chromium. it's really the same thing
[08:25] <nicklasbo> :-)
[08:25] <donnie> Now to wipe out pulse and install mixer
[08:25] <donnie> I like it better
[08:25] <nicklasbo> th0r, thanks for your help :-)
[09:35] <djamayaofficial> today my HDMI Audio output option dissapeared from my alsa control panel, so I can't select it for output anymore. however in terminal, and in my sysinfo the hard still shows up.
[09:50] <ran_> i need help about boot in 13.94
[09:50] <ran_> 13.04
[10:58] <Gargravarrr> hi, i'm having a problem getting the 13.04 ISO to boot
[10:59] <Gargravarrr> just wondering if anyone else has or if it's a problem with my discs or something
[11:00] <ronalds> try checking for disc errors
[11:00] <ronalds> also check if you haven't downloaded 64 bit for 32 bit pc
[11:00] <Gargravarrr> i've got an x64 PC and have the x64 image
[11:00] <elfy> if you didn't get the download from a torrent - check the md5sum for it
[11:01] <Gargravarrr> ah, forgot about the checksum
[11:03] <Gargravarrr> okay, the checksum matches, but if i try to mount the ISO on my machine to check it works, i get an error saying no valid FSes found
[11:04] <Gargravarrr> actually, forget that, i just tried mounting a 12.04 ISO for comparison and that gives the same error
[11:04] <ronalds> you have intel pc/
[11:04] <ronalds> ?
[11:04] <Gargravarrr> yep
[11:04] <ronalds> then 32 bit pal
[11:05] <elfy> not if the machine's 64 bit :)
[11:05] <Gargravarrr> it's a C2D with x64 support, i've had Xubuntu 12.04 x64 running on it but i messed it up :)
[11:05] <ronalds> even if it's 64 bit, those iso are mostly for amd
[11:05] <Gargravarrr> archiecture's the same
[11:06] <ronalds> there is no difference between running 64 bit and 32 bit pal
[11:06] <Gargravarrr> like i say, i've had 12.04 x64 working on this machine. in fact it still boots, but i've messed up NetworkManager
[11:06] <Gargravarrr> there is if you have a tonne of RAM ;)
[11:07] <ronalds> there isn't since 32 pal uses all the ram anyway
[11:07] <ronalds> but you can argue with me, and never get intel machine running if iso doesn't supports intel
[11:08] <elfy> ronalds: the 64 bit iso is not called amd because it's only for amd
[11:08] <Gargravarrr> it's because AMD defined the architecture so the name stuck, but Intel use the same
[11:08] <ronalds> then write another disk, till you get it working, what can I say
[11:09] <Gargravarrr> will do, burning a different DVD now
[11:09] <elfy> Gargravarrr: so when you try to boot what does it actually do?
[11:09] <ronalds> I seriously doubt that 64 bit version will give any improvment over 32 bit pal intel image
[11:10] <Gargravarrr> elfy: nothing, doesn't see the DVD as a bootable disc
[11:10] <ronalds> but maybe
[11:10] <elfy> Gargravarrr: you burning as an image I assume and have set bios to boot from cd first
[11:10] <ronalds> maybe it's uefi
[11:10] <Gargravarrr> ronalds: there are certain things x64 does more efficiently than x86, like video processing which i do from time to time
[11:11] <ronalds> I do video processing on my intel 32 bit with hd 3000 integrated card
[11:11] <Gargravarrr> elfy: i used the boot popup menu to specifically select the CD drive
[11:11] <ronalds> I don't seem to run in any problems
[11:11] <Gargravarrr> i'm not saying x86 can't do it, but if the CPU upports x64, it's more efficient to use x64 versions
[11:11] <elfy> Gargravarrr: ok - and as ronalds - uefi?
[11:11] <Gargravarrr> the board is definitely not UEFI, it's plain BIOS :)
[11:12] <elfy> and it's burnt as an ISO ?
[11:12] <Gargravarrr> yep
[11:13] <elfy> does it get to the man/keyboard stage? if it does that - hit a key and there are some options at F6 - nomodeset acpi etc
[11:13] <ronalds> I had this problem on old hardware as lubuntu didn't wanted to run
[11:13] <ronalds> but xubuntu seemed to run on anything
[11:14] <elfy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD_Boot_Option_Configuration_Line
[11:14] <ronalds> installing ubuntu and then xubuntu-desktop, would give the same thing
[11:14] <ronalds> you could remove ubuntu packages after install
[11:14] <Gargravarrr> hmm, wonder if i'd have better luck booting it off a pen drive instead of a DVD
[11:15] <elfy> I always use those now
[11:15] <fallore> how do i access a windows network's shared folders?
[11:15] <Gargravarrr> elfy: like i said, it doesn't detect the disc as bootable so it skips to the main HDD
[11:15] <ronalds> or even taking 12.04 and upgrading it to 12.10 and later to 13.04 or rewriting precise in sources with raring
[11:15] <Gargravarrr> i wanted to do that but i messed up NetworkManager and can't get online
[11:15] <elfy> Gargravarrr: ceertainly sounds like it's not recognising that the disc is an image
[11:16] <elfy> Gargravarrr: I use unetbootin
[11:16] <ronalds> I would try another distro by this time
[11:16] <Gargravarrr> i only have a 3G connection at the moment so downloading ISOs is expensive :)
[11:17] <Gargravarrr> right, new disc has finished burning, let's try it out...
[11:17] <ronalds> too bad for you, btw whats your hardware?
[11:18] <Gargravarrr> Core 2 Duo 3GHz, 4GB RAM, 320GB HDD, GF550Ti
[11:18] <Gargravarrr> a little old, sure :) but plenty fast enough for what i need
[11:19] <ronalds> I would say gaming machine as you have nvidia
[11:19] <Gargravarrr> yep
[11:19] <Gargravarrr> also nVidia are the only cards that properly work with Linux in any form
[11:19] <ronalds> why not run usual ubuntu, don't like unity?
[11:20] <ronalds> kde also is fine choice with 13.04
[11:21] <Gargravarrr> yeah, absolutely hate Unity, <3 Xfce
[11:21] <ronalds> almost any card nowadays works fine with linux, but you don't get gaming factor on some of them
[11:22] <ronalds> I have pc that used to run win 2000 and now it has xubuntu 12.04 with no problems
[11:22] <Gargravarrr> i used to like ATi until AMD bought them, since then their driver support in windows has gotten worse for me, so i went nVidia-exclusive
[11:22] <ronalds> can't play games that used to run in windows, but good for skype, web browser, and family needs
[11:22] <Gargravarrr> yeah, i know, this machine used to run 12.04 okay, with a few issues from upgrading from 11.10
[11:23] <Gargravarrr> so i want to do a fresh install
[11:23] <Gargravarrr> elfy: if i want to boot from a pen drive, do i just dd the ISO to the USB disk?
[11:24] <elfy> you could but I use unetbootin
[11:24] <Gargravarrr> what's that?
[11:25] <elfy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UNetbootin
[11:25] <Gargravarrr> that's quite neat
[11:26] <elfy> yep - works for me :)
[11:26] <Gargravarrr> and there's a Mac port too, fantastic
[11:26] <elfy> :)
[11:34] <ronalds> I love all the environments for different purpoises
[11:34] <ronalds> kde has homerunner widget which can replace unity
[11:34] <ronalds> with 13.04
[11:35] <ronalds> so if xubuntu 13.04 doesn't run, I can suggest trying kubuntu with kde 4.10
[11:35] <Gargravarrr> thanks for the suggestion, but i would much rather stick with Xfce
[11:36] <Gargravarrr> if 13.04 really won't install, i'll drop back to 12.04LTS
[11:39] <ronalds> I just can't imagine living without ability to search for all the docs and apps in one smooth app
[11:43] <Gargravarrr> i almost never use search, and i use Launchy as an app launcher
[11:50] <Gargravarrr> weird. UNetbootin didn't throw any errors, but trying to boot from the USB disk doesn't seem to be working
[11:54] <elfy> Gargravarrr: I'd double check the boot options, sometimes usb has been seen as a hdd rather than a usb
[11:55] <Gargravarrr> i definitely get the USB disk in the bootable disk popup
[11:56] <elfy> k - well if you've done the deed with unetbootin and you've checked the iso checksum I don't know
[11:56] <Gargravarrr> yeah :S never had this problem before
[11:57] <elfy> me neither
[11:57] <Gargravarrr> bingo, had to do it manually
[11:57] <elfy> excellent
[11:58] <Gargravarrr> well, i hope this works. last time i tried to install Xubuntu from a USB disk it failed spectacularly :S
[11:58] <Gargravarrr> CD-RWs have always been my preferred approach. darn 13.04 for being just a smidge too big!
[11:58] <elfy> well - I've been installing with USB's for a couple of years without issue
[11:59] <elfy> dvd's not even connected lol
[11:59] <Gargravarrr> heh. last time, i tried to install 12.04 on a Dell workstation, but it errored out before it finished installing. wrote the same image to a CD-RW and it installed perfectly
[12:00] <elfy> :)
[12:05] <Gargravarrr> now, fingers crossed this won't break my Win7 install
[12:19] <Gargravarrr> good news, 13.04 booted up fine :)
[12:19] <elfy> excellent
[12:19] <Gargravarrr> question: what happens about nVidia drivers in this version? i don't see the 'Additional Drivers' option anywhere
[12:20] <elfy> settings manager - software sources - last tab in that is where additional drivers lives now
[12:21] <elfy> software and updates perhaps :)
[12:22] <Gargravarrr> yep, found it, thanks
[12:22] <Gargravarrr> loads of different versions, i assume i should be using the 'tested' one?
[12:24] <Gargravarrr> stupid question, actually :)
[12:25] <elfy> I get totally confused by the long list ... I use nouveau :)
[12:25] <elfy> I think it's the 310 one
[12:26] <Gargravarrr> yeah. nouveau's okay, but i like having full 3D support
[13:08] <Gargravarrr> fantastic, everything installed and working. now typing this from the xubuntu machine ^_^
[13:12] <lderan> woo
[13:12] <Gargravarrr> thanks for your help guys, much appreciated
[14:11] <anon1> Is it just me or am I missing the panel Icon that would normally tell me when I had messages waiting?  thought it was the indicator plugin, but when I try adding that I realize I have two of that.
[17:10] <gatsu1000> good evening all
[17:10] <gatsu1000> someone can give me a little help?
[17:10] <holstein> gatsu1000: just ask.. we'll see
[17:11] <gatsu1000> how can i see which video card i've on the motherboard?
[17:12] <holstein> gatsu1000: i would google the manufacturers site.. or look on the box, or the case.. or run a live CD on the hardware and run "lspci".. or use whatever device recognition there is on whatever OS is on the hardware
[17:12] <gatsu1000> i've installed xubuntu a couple of days ago
[17:12] <gatsu1000> but not much used to it, sorry
[17:13] <gatsu1000> ok, found^^ thanks a lot^^
[17:13] <gatsu1000> now i've just to figure out how to set the color deep of the monitor...
[17:14] <holstein> gatsu1000: i would take it slow.. if it was windows you were running before, think about how long you used windows "as-is".. without setting *anything*
[17:15] <gatsu1000> i see, but i've a couple of issues i can't fix in any way...
[17:16] <holstein> gatsu1000: just elaborate about them here, or another support avenue and maybe a volunteer can help
[17:17] <gatsu1000> i think i've some video issue; for example, flashplayer just make me listen music but video is somewhat corrupted
[17:17] <ball> gatsu1000: I like it.
[17:17] <gatsu1000> and "desktop" background seems to be with a wrong color dept
[17:17] <holstein> gatsu1000: seems?
[17:18] <ball> gatsu1000: Have you looked in the Settings Manager?
[17:18] <gatsu1000> mmm, i don't know how to explain it...
[17:18] <holstein> gatsu1000: i wouldnt worry about the wallpaper.. first thing i would do is consider using a proprietary graphics driver if one is available
[17:18] <ball> In the Hardware section I see Display.
[17:18] <gatsu1000> i'm trying to search for it, but can't understand exactly which one is
[17:19] <holstein> gatsu1000: is it youtube that is the issue? in flash?.. you can try the html5 trial https://www.youtube.com/html5
[17:19] <gatsu1000> with lsmod, in video i see i915
[17:19] <ball> Oh that's odd.  I see resolution (really mode, that's mislabelled) and refresh rate but not colour depth.
[17:19] <gatsu1000> yep ball, same here
[17:19] <holstein> you can try the chrome browser from google (which is the only way to get the current flash in linux)
[17:19] <gatsu1000> same issue
[17:20] <ball> gatsu1000: open a terminal window and try "xwininfo", click on the root (blank part of the desktop).
[17:21] <ball> Mine says Depth: 24
[17:21] <gatsu1000> xwininfo: Window id: 0x1600003 "Scrivania"    Absolute upper-left X:  0   Absolute upper-left Y:  0   Relative upper-left X:  0   Relative upper-left Y:  0   Width: 1280   Height: 1024   Depth: 15   Visual: 0x20   Visual Class: TrueColor   Border width: 0   Class: InputOutput   Colormap: 0x22 (installed)   Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity   Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity   Backing Store State: NotUseful   Save Under State
[17:21] <ball> gatsu1000: You're right, you're only running 15-bit colour
[17:21] <ball> Is this a laptop?
[17:22] <gatsu1000> np, hp desktop
[17:22] <gatsu1000> don't know how to change the depth anyway...
[17:23] <ball> gatsu1000: That's what I'm trying to figure out for you.
[17:23] <gatsu1000> oh, thank you :)
[17:23] <ball> In the Display control panel, what monitor does it say you have?
[17:24] <gatsu1000> someone seems to tell to edit xorg.conf or something like that
[17:24] <holstein> a custom xorg.conf can help.. sometimes i load up a knoppix live cd or puppy, and configure the graphics there and grab the xord.conf
[17:24] <gatsu1000> samsung electric company 17"
[17:24] <gatsu1000> but i don't know where and how to do it :P
[17:26]  * ball keeps looking
[17:27] <gatsu1000> where i can find xorg.conf?
[17:27] <gatsu1000> mmm, it seems it doesn't exist
[17:28] <holstein> gatsu1000: right.. but you *can* put one inplace.. and force some things
[17:28] <gatsu1000> same question:  how? :P
[17:28] <holstein> but, its not trivial.. thats why i use a live CD to help me make one that i know will work
[17:29] <gatsu1000> ah...
[17:29] <gatsu1000> i tried un reconfigure...
[17:29] <holstein> gatsu1000: i literally load up a live CD such as puppy, since there is a nice wizard... and i make certain that i see the deskop look *exactly* as i want.. then i grab the xorg.conf, and put it in place on my ubuntu rig.. tweaking if necessary
[17:29] <ball> Oh hang on, there's a settings editor!
[17:29] <holstein> why? because i am not skilled enough to create one from scratch
[17:30] <gatsu1000> great ball!
[17:30] <ball> Oh wait, how much video RAM have you given the computer?
[17:30] <gatsu1000> erm... how can i see it?
[17:30] <ball> Probably in your CMOS setup program (often incorrectly called BIOS)
[17:31] <holstein> !bios
[17:31] <gatsu1000> if i remember well, 128mb at least, maybe 256
[17:31] <holstein> gatsu1000: confirm that.. that could be the issue
[17:31] <gatsu1000> ah... what i need to put?
[17:32] <gatsu1000> because i need a restart... the command !bios doesn't give any results
[17:32] <holstein> gatsu1000: the bios is specific to your hardware.. and will be reached specifically based on your hardware
[17:33] <gatsu1000> so, the only way i know is to reboot the pc
[17:33] <holstein> gatsu1000: that is the way you confirm how much ram is set to be shared with your graphics device as ball has pointed out can be an issue
[17:34] <gatsu1000> ok, give me a sec... checking and coming back
[17:34] <holstein> is that the problem? likely not, but you need to make a list and troubleshoot
[17:41] <ball> WB gatsu1000
[17:41] <gatsu1000> thanks... bios doesn't have video memory that could be set...
[17:42] <holstein> gatsu1000: what would i do? load up a live CD with nomodeset
[17:42] <holstein> !nomodeset
[17:48] <ball> gatsu1000: Is the graphics built into your mainboard or on a separate expansion card?
[17:48] <gatsu1000> built in
[17:53] <ball> Hmm... ok
[18:46] <livingdaylight> Hi
[18:47]  * ball waves
[18:47] <livingdaylight> remmoved abiword and gnumeric.
[18:47] <livingdaylight> is there an easy command for libre office suite, rather than installing them all one by one
[18:47]  * ball checks
[18:48] <bekks> livingdaylight: apt-get install libreoffice
[18:48] <livingdaylight> Also, for Skype, which version do I grab from skype.com ? I'm on 32-bit for which it suggests ubuntu 10.04 which seems old . the other one says 12.04 (multi-arch) but what does multi-arch mean?
[18:49] <ball> bekks: Well /that's/ predictable. :-)
[18:49] <koegs> livingdaylight: activate the partner source in the software center and install skype from there
[18:53] <jessica9898> what software i can use for reminding me to do breaks ?
[18:56] <livingdaylight> activating partner source doesn't seem to give me sky[e
[18:56] <livingdaylight> *skype
[18:56] <knome> livingdaylight, did you update the repositories?
[18:57] <livingdaylight> no
[18:57] <knome> jessica9898, maybe set up cron to do notifications
[18:57] <knome> livingdaylight, what if you tried to do that first?
[18:57] <ball> I think I installed Skype using a package from the Skype Website.
[18:57] <livingdaylight> are we talking about software centre or synaptic?
[18:58] <knome> livingdaylight, i believe you can do it from both
[18:59] <livingdaylight> don't see it in software center
[19:00] <knome> livingdaylight, alternatively, 'sudo apt-get update' in a terminal
[19:18] <livingdaylight> have a jnlp file for which I've installed webstart from software center. However, when I right-click on jnlp file don't find the open with webstart
[19:19] <livingdaylight> i click open with other application but don't see it down the list
[19:35] <seronis> How do i get the Permissions tab in the Properties window to recognize the existance of the 'executable' bit ?
[19:35] <seronis> i can neither set nor verify the status of that bit using the GUI which is kinda unuseful
[19:37] <seronis> I already checked "http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/working-with-files-and-folders" first. It doesnt mention anything on the issue
[19:38] <th0r> seronis, what are you trying to mark as executable
[19:39] <seronis> jar files
[19:39] <th0r> seronis, I don't think jar files are executable. They are run using 'java something.jar' if I remember right
[19:40] <seronis> the JRE refuses to execute jars that dont have the executable flag set
[19:42] <seronis> i opened a terminal and just chmod'd the file..  but its something that SHOULD have been available in the gui
[19:44] <livingdaylight> Hi, can someone help me with java webstart?
[19:45] <livingdaylight> got icetea java webstart installed but can't launch my jnlp file
[19:45] <seronis> http://www.cokeandcode.com/index.html?page=tutorials/webstart
[19:46] <seronis> livingdaylight, i havent used it myself but thats what i have bookmarked for when i do need to
[19:46] <seronis> might be of help
[19:46] <livingdaylight> thanks will look
[20:48] <amerigena> Question : when right-clicking on the desktop, the first menu that pops-up, is called what exactly? In Xfce terms, is this the top-level menu?
[20:49] <amerigena> I'm interested in learning how to edit it, but all the researching I've done seems focused on the Applications menu.
[20:51] <brainwash> it's hard coded anyway, you can only edit the application menu
[21:20] <noirguy> brainwash : right now I'm working in Voyager, which is an Xubuntu knockoff. The "top-level" menu that I'm talking about is different from the Xubuntu default - and yes, I know, this channel only supports Xubuntu.
[21:20] <noirguy> But my point is, if I want to edit this menu in Xubuntu, since it seems to be possible, how do I do it?
[21:29] <brainwash> noirguy, it's the right-click menu of xfdesktop and can't be changed by editing a config file
[21:31] <xubuntu646> Hello everyone, I have a stability issue with xubuntu. It is freezing up a bunch times.
[21:31] <amerigena> brainwash : if that's the case, then how do these people who do remasters like Voyager edit the menu?
[21:32] <amerigena> Do they create an entirely new menu?
[21:34] <xubuntu646> I don't know what to do with the OS frequently freezing on as I am new to Linux in general.
[21:34] <brainwash> amerigena, you can change the menu, but not without recompiling the code
[21:35] <amerigena> OK.
[21:36] <brainwash> amerigena, just checked some pictures of Voyager.. what the heck :)
[21:37] <amerigena> What the heck what?
[21:37] <brainwash> amerigena, can you upload a screenshot of the right-click menu?
[21:37] <brainwash> amerigena, the desktop looks.. different :)
[21:37] <amerigena> It's very different.
[21:38] <amerigena> I'm working on that screenshot right now.
[21:38] <jooves> hi guys. tell me please. what's name of volume regulator app in 12.04
[21:39] <SunStar> xubuntu646, download badblocks & testdisk w/ photorec.  check the drive for errors
[21:39] <jooves> or sound properties
[21:39] <brainwash> xubuntu646, you should check some of the log files located in /var/log
[21:40] <brainwash> jooves, you mean the volume indicator in the top panel?
[21:40] <bwat47> jooves, if you mean the panel applet itself its ubuntu's sound-indicator, the app that opens upon clicking "sound settings" is called pavucontrol
[21:40] <SunStar> xubuntu646,  smartctl
[21:40] <jooves> thanks
[21:42] <xubuntu646> okay, I will try my best. Again complete noob at Linux. :-(
[21:45] <xubuntu646> @SunStar where you find badblocks and smartctl?
[21:46] <SunStar> smartctl i got from repo (possibly kubuntu repo)
[21:46] <amerigena> brainwash : I don't spend much time on IRC. How do I upload the screenshot?
[21:47] <bwat47> amerigena, imgur.com
[21:47] <brainwash> amerigena, use a web service like http://imageshack.us/
[21:48] <amerigena> http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&id=4tHclZ2il6GynaTV1NrO4NzQ3sbW5sne3snj1tPi2prp0tw
[21:49] <amerigena> That should be it brainwash
[21:49] <amerigena> My desktop is different from the default Voyager setup, but it's not that far removed.
[21:50] <brainwash> amerigena, you shared the wrong link i guess
[21:51] <lderan> aye im just getting ads myself
[21:52] <lderan> http://imageshack.us/a/img22/1599/rightclickscreenshot.png is a more direct link
[21:54] <brainwash> aren't those custom actions defined in Thunar? the top and bottom part of the menu isn't any different
[21:54] <amerigena> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/211/rightclickscreenshot.png/
[21:54] <amerigena> try that link
[21:55] <brainwash> ye, the previous one already worked :)
[21:55] <brainwash> so you should be able to add more custom actions to the center of the menu
[21:56] <brainwash> Thunar does manage those custom actions
[21:57] <brainwash> edit > configure custom actions..
[21:58] <brainwash> but maybe i'm wrong.. abandoned Thunar like years ago :D
[21:59] <amerigena> Perfect. That's exactly what I was looking for.
[21:59] <amerigena> Thank you very much.
[21:59] <brainwash> :)
[22:03] <jooves> I'm noob in linux so help me please. When I use  "fn+up/down arrow" shortcut on my notebook to increase/decrease volume it moves volume of hdmi output instead of (currently active) internal output always. What should i do? xubuntu 12.04
[22:04] <jooves> under ubnutu it works well
[22:09] <livingdaylight> running the latest xfce and thunar 1.6.2. Would like to know whether its possible to navigate back and forwards or up and down the tree?
[22:10] <livingdaylight> I grab a file from one folder and go to another and can't just go back without having to start from square 1
[22:11] <livingdaylight> switching from pathbar to toolbar style under View seems to give me what i was looking for
[22:52] <Kungpung> Hello can someone please assist me with a minor problem? Please
[22:52] <Kungpung> Anybody? :)
[22:52] <th0r> Kungpung, depends on the problem, doesn't it?
[22:52] <Kungpung> Ofc. I am a total noob at ubuntu/xubuntu. I wan't to run a install.sh file but nothing happens. Any thoughs on that=
[22:53] <th0r> Kungpung, if you are totally new at linux you are probably asking for trouble installing something like that
[22:53] <knome> Kungpung, what's your real problem? what are you trying to install?
[22:53] <Kungpung> Its a print driver. I would like to be able to print.
[22:53] <Kungpung> Thank you guys very much for trying to help me.
[22:54] <th0r> Kungpung, have you installed CUPS yet? the driver you need may already be presenty
[22:55] <Kungpung> I don't even know what CUPS is... So no. Where do I find that? Software centre?
[22:55] <th0r> !cups
[23:08] <Kungpung2> Hello. Is it possible to run a .sh file in Xubuntu?
[23:08] <Kungpung2> How does one go about to run a .sh file in ubuntu?
[23:09] <Belial> ./shfile
[23:09] <Kungpung2> Could you please elaborate a bit upon that?
[23:10] <Belial> what's the name of the file?
[23:10] <Kungpung2> install.sh
[23:10] <Belial> so try ./install.sh
[23:10] <Belial> at command line.
[23:10] <Kungpung2> Where do I enter that data (./install.sh)? Thanks
[23:11] <Belial> you know how to get to terminal, right?
[23:12] <Kungpung2> Yes. I figured it now. It says ''no such file or directory''. I have to enter the entire pathway?
[23:13] <Kungpung2> ah.
[23:13] <Belial> Kungpung2, just enter the directory that the file is in.
[23:13] <Kungpung2> Thank you belial for bering with a noob like me. :)
[23:14] <Belial> np
[23:14] <Kungpung2> So it installed correctly. But I still Can't find the printer...
[23:15] <Kungpung2> It was a printer driver I just installed.
[23:18] <Belial> try rebooting, Kungpung2
[23:18] <Kungpung2> Okay. Thank you again. Have a nice day/weekend sir.
[23:19] <Kungpung2> haha. How do i reboot?
[23:19] <Belial> sudo reboot from terminal