[00:00] <lorddelta1> Running 12.10: why might my upstart packages be visible to system v init scripts?
[00:00] <Neldogz> Hey everyone, what is the proper way to setup dual screens in Ubuntu? I have 2 screens setup using Nvidia Proprietary drivers in TwinView config. Is this the correct option?
[00:00] <sha1sum> Prock: look it up.
[00:00] <Dr_Willis_> there are koisk focused disrtos out there. and i recall gnome ages ago haveing a koisk mode
[00:00] <Prock>  Dr_Willis_ running virtual machine and having the most possible resources free for the VM
[00:00] <Dr_Willis_> Prock:  i use openbox or jwm in my vms.
[00:01] <Jordan_U> Prock: Once you get to WMs like fluxbox, obenbox, ratpoison... they all use so few resources as to be negligable.
[00:01] <Dr_Willis_> given how a browser is going tobe usiing 100x the resources of most of the wm's - i dont see the point in trying to trim down the wm
[00:01] <Prock> i use vmware 9.0.2 only, no others can do what i needd
[00:01] <sha1sum> Prock: at a certain point, just a few decorations will probably have an extremely minimal effect on your resources.
[00:01] <m1chael> http://dpaste.com/1143123/ # does this output indicate that this is a working dvd burner? this is a virtual machine running through virtualbox on a windows 8 host. this is a new laptop and i dont know if this is a dvd burner or not
[00:01] <Dr_Willis_> !info twm
[00:02] <m1chael> dev/dvdrw is not present, just /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd
[00:02] <Prock> in talking for the host... the wm
[00:02] <Dr_Willis_> m1chael:  those are all normally links to the correct /dev/sr# device
[00:02] <subcool> neekz0r, ok - im back.
[00:02] <subcool> what was that command?
[00:03] <Runemoro> Hi, when I do X -configure, it tells me "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices."
[00:03] <Runemoro> How can I fix this?
[00:03] <m1chael> Dr_Willis, so its possible to have a dvd burner and not have /dev/dvdrw links?
[00:03] <sha1sum> So this is going to suck either (a) watching my videos with subtitles, or (b) listening to audio through my laptop speakers because I can't get HDMI audio to work.
[00:03] <sha1sum> Working in OpenSUSE, not in Ubuntu. WTF?
[00:04] <supersecond> hello
[00:04] <Aww> Hello
[00:04] <subcool> sha1sum, hasnt HDMI like never worked?
[00:04] <Dr_Willis_> m1chael:  the /dev/dv* links are JUST soft links to the actual devie. to give them a easier to read name.. you can tell the burner app to use /dev/sr# or whatever the actual device is
[00:04] <subcool> i havent even bothered to try to fix it
[00:04] <supersecond> im good, how are you?
[00:05] <sha1sum> subcool: did for me on this same machine with an older kernel and older pretty much everything.
[00:05] <Dr_Willis_> sha1sum:  theres known bugs with hdmi out on some of the 13.04 kernels. I found posts to info on it at askubuntu.com and got mine working via using a newer testing kernel. (using 3.9.0-xxx right now)
[00:05] <subcool> mdadm: /dev/sdf1 is busy - skipping
[00:05] <subcool>  -- wtf?
[00:06] <Dr_Willis_> subcool:  hdmi worked for me all throght beta. then broke when final came out.. its supposed tobe getting fixed.. but ive  not seen an official patch/update yet
[00:06] <subcool> i questioned it years ago
[00:06] <subcool> havne bothered since
[00:06] <subcool> thats kinda scary stupid to know that its STILL not working
[00:06] <sha1sum> Dr_Willis_: yeah I'm running 3.8.0-19... Maybe I should upgrade.
[00:07] <SunStar> well there is a stupid bug with mouse pointers in XFCE that hasnt been addressed in over 8 years
[00:07] <Dr_Willis_> its Been working for me for 2+ yrs subcool  theres just a regression in the 3.8* kernel for some reason
[00:07] <subcool> oh- so im the only one with it still not working
[00:07] <subcool> well thats be nice to have
[00:07] <SunStar> thats not what he said
[00:07] <Dr_Willis_> try the 3.9 kernel perhaps?
[00:07] <subcool> im on 3.2 - mine still doesnt work. well - atleast out of box
[00:08] <subcool> neekz0r, ?
[00:09] <sha1sum> Yep just downloaded and trying 3.9 now
[00:09] <subcool> is anyone familiar with Raid 0? im trying to mount an OLD raid0 i have, but- running into issues. neekz0r has been helping me. but- we are kinda stumped ab it
[00:10] <SunStar> you need to use the same kind of RAID controller
[00:10] <subcool> its a software raid
[00:10] <lorddelta> Nvm package re-install seems to have fixed. Guess something got stuck in a cache somewhere.
[00:10] <SDr_> hi there, while doing init.d on a linode box configured to run IPV6, I've got: nginx: [emerg] bind() to [2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe96:5b5f]:80 failed (99: Cannot assign requested address)  ;after the box comes up, ifconfig admits to that address; any idea how I can delay init.d 's nginx starting up to the point of IPV6 assignment?
[00:10] <Aaron__> anyone know how to do a duel boot install along side windows 8 on a "gaming rig"?
[00:11] <subcool> Aaron__, same as any dual boot
[00:11] <subcool> Aaron__, install win8, then install ubuntu
[00:11] <SunStar> with windows 8 you might need to run bootrepair after installing ubuntu
[00:11] <Aaron__> subcool, I thought so too. but it just wiped my Windows 8 drive that I had all my programs on.
[00:11] <utfans05> Aaron__: subcool is correct
[00:11] <sha1sum> Aaron__: Must have Windows installed or else you will not be able to access linux without a boot repair
[00:11] <SunStar> u didnt partition it right
[00:11] <subcool> Aaron__, dont let it use the entire disk
[00:11] <sha1sum> Aaron__: Yeah you probably got rid of the Windows partition.
[00:12] <Neldogz> Hey everyone, what is the proper way to setup dual screens in Ubuntu? I have 2 screens setup using Nvidia Proprietary drivers in TwinView config. Is this the correct option?
[00:12] <subcool> reinstall Win8, or recover what u lost..
[00:12] <sha1sum> OK, trying 3.9. Wish me luck.
[00:12] <utfans05> Aaron__: if you try to install windows it will remove the linux boot manager when it installs. you would then have to run a boot recovery cd and fix grub
[00:12] <subcool> Aaron__, reinstall ubuntu, use guided, but dont let it use the entire disk- there is a side by side option
[00:12] <Aaron__> subcool, I just selected the option "Run along side windows 8" should I choose a different option?
[00:12] <subcool> You could install ubuntu first, but- you;l have to do a grub recovery
[00:12] <Dr_Willis_> Neldogz:  install nvidia drivers, reboot, run nvida-settings tool. enable twinview and tweak how you want, save to the xorg.conf , restart X server.. enjoy
[00:13] <Aaron__> subcool, when I chose that opiton last time it wiped my entire D drive.
[00:13] <subcool> i havent installed with the new 13. - so idk, but i know not much has changed
[00:13] <Prock> ok, next question, is there a way to... xinit vmware ... first then switch back to a tty then load a wm to where xinit put the app, do what i need with the wm then kill it and my xinit app not be destoryd
[00:13] <Neldogz> Thank you Dr_Willis, is the mouse pointer supposed to get stuck between screens?
[00:13] <m1chael> is running ubuntu in virtualbox ok? if you have hardware to burn
[00:13] <utfans05> m1chael: yes it totally fine
[00:14] <Dr_Willis_> Neldogz:  i havent notice3d the issue.  theres a bit of a 'resistance' i recall.
[00:14] <Neldogz> Thanks again Dr_willis
[00:14] <allanx0> Hello after entering my pass to my desktop, it goes back to login details. i cant get passed the desktop. I created another username works ok except for my old one. Last things i did was just apt-get update but when i reboot and try to login, i couldnt get to pass the desktop. How to fix this issue?
[00:14] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:14] <Dr_Willis_> m1chael:  i run ubuntu in vbox on windows 7 - runs decently well
[00:14] <allanx0> is this the solution? im afraid to do this.im using xubuntu desktop 64bit http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?/topic/30880-ubuntu-login-issue-solutions/
[00:14] <SunStar> subcool, http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/262546-32-raid-rebuild
[00:14] <subcool> Aaron__, - i tihnk your just mis-clicking..
[00:14] <sha1sum> Dr_Willis_: yep, 3.9 fixed it.
[00:14] <Dr_Willis_> allanx0:  check in the problem users home directory. move/rename their .Xauthority file and see if they can then login
[00:14] <sha1sum> So weird.
[00:14] <Aaron__> subcool, do you recommend a USB install or CD install? or should it matter?
[00:15] <sha1sum> Dr_Willis_: thanks!
[00:15] <subcool> doesnt matter
[00:15] <Dr_Willis_> sha1sum:  id been waiting for an official fix since release. got sick of waiting. ;)
[00:15] <Prock> is there a way to... xinit vmware ... first then switch back to a tty then load a wm to where xinit put the app, do what i need with the wm then kill it and my xinit app not be destoryd
[00:15] <subcool> Aaron__, thing is - you have to pay attention.
[00:15] <SunStar> did you get the link subcool?
[00:16] <subcool> SunStar, yes- thanks. im reading it
[00:16] <sha1sum> Dr_Willis: woohoo! now I can watch cheesy TV series with 7.1 surround. LOL
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> Prock:  why dont you just make xinit load both?
[00:16] <Aaron__> subcool, seems logical.
[00:16] <sha1sum> ahhh, the lengths to which we will go for mind-numbing entertainment.
[00:16] <sha1sum> *sigh*
[00:16] <Aaron__> subcool, does USB or CD boot matter?
[00:16] <Prock> how would i do that Dr_Willis?
[00:16] <subcool> Aaron__, you say last time it wiped ur d drive. - no it doestn matter
[00:17] <Prock> oh and by the way twm is totally now what i want
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> Prock:  i really dont see why you are worried about killing a tiny wm like jwm thats going to be using  less resouces then  anything else  i can think of.
[00:17] <subcool> Aaron__, I would get a piece of paper and pen.. and write the stuff down. So when your booting- you dont get cluster/fluster when it all goes down
[00:17] <Aaron__> subcool, I don't really care... the media drive just had video games on it, it'll just take a couple of hours to get that back.
[00:18] <Prock> totally NOT*
[00:18] <Aaron__> subcool, thanks for the help though. I'll try to pay more attention this time. Last night I did the install at 4AM, probably not the best idea.
[00:18] <subcool> Aaron__, just write it down.
[00:18] <Prock> cause of hot keys the guest uses
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> http://xwinman.org/  a big list of a lot of window managers.. some are very tiny.. some are very old..
[00:19] <subcool> Aaron__, to save yourself trouble, resinatll win8 first.
[00:19] <subcool> you can do a data recovery if you want to get ur stuff back if u want..
[00:19] <subcool> Aaron__, idk what u lost
[00:19] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: I have no .Xauthority . I did "locate .Xauthority"
[00:19] <subcool> C drive is usually SDA, D drive is usually Sdb
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  its in your users home directory
[00:20] <subcool> Aaron__, ^^
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[00:20] <subcool> You can even create the partitions NOW
[00:20] <subcool> Aaron__,
[00:20] <m1chael> does RedoBackup or Clonezilla work with new computers running Windows8/uefi ?
[00:20] <Aaron__> subcool, thanks again. I'm gonna try the guided side-by-side.
[00:20] <subcool> KEEP AN EYE ON IT Aaron__
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  a common issue is that file getting owned by root.
[00:20] <Aaron__> subcool, if I don't end up using ubuntu is there an easy way to "remove" ubuntu from the side-by-side install?
[00:21] <subcool> Aaron__, format
[00:21] <Aaron__> subcool, haha, alright...
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> Aaron__:  if you just want to test ubuntu. try it in virtualbox perhaps.
[00:21] <subcool> Aaron__, Windows will be on NTFS, the ifrst partition. - ubuntu will be on the second partition. including a swapp partition
[00:21] <subcool> Aaron__, yeah- yoou could even use the LIVEUSB as its own installation
[00:22] <Aaron__> Dr_Willis, subcool the only reason I'm installing ubuntu is because I like *nix systems for development.
[00:22] <subcool> Aaron__, setup a persistence space..
[00:22] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: no such file or directory
[00:22] <subcool> Aaron__, i can hear that.
[00:22] <Aaron__> subcool, would you recommend a VM for dev instead of a native install for that case?
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> Aaron__:  you can develop in vbox :) but you said you wanted to test the disrto out.. vbox is the cleanest way to do that.
[00:23] <subcool> AaaA, yeah- the Dr. is the best..
[00:23] <Aaron__> I've got 16gb ram and a ton of HD space.
[00:23] <subcool> Aaron__, VM wouldnt matter much at all
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  could be some other setting file is crashing your desktop and kicking you back to the login screen.
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  you could move all the various config files to some subdir and try logging in again
[00:24] <m1chael> ive got vbox running xubuntu on a laptop with 6gb ram and it seems totally fine
[00:24] <Aaron__> Dr_Willis, would you use Vbox vs any other VM solution?
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> I basically only use vbox
[00:24] <Aaron__> Dr_Willis, subcool thanks guys, I really appreciate the feedback.
[00:25] <subcool> Aaron__, i just converted to Vbox becaues of vm's horrible help chat.
[00:25] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: what "various files" you mean?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  all the .config and other .* setting files in your home
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  but most of the time people in here have this issue - its their .Xauthority file thats messed up
[00:26] <elisa87> Where can I ask questions about compiler and llvm? Dr_Willis bekks
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> elisa87:  i dont use either. so no idea. ;)
[00:27] <mchlbhm> Using ubuntu 12.04 and wifi won't load any pages. Took me three tries to log into freenode. Anyone willing to help me with this issue?
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> mchlbhm:  the networkis having issues right now with netsplits and stuff
[00:27] <subcool> SunStar, thanks. but- live cd isnt doing it
[00:28] <SunStar> subcool, use Redo Backup & Restore
[00:28] <SunStar> or clonezilla
[00:28] <SunStar> redo is easier
[00:29] <mchlbhm> Dr_Willis, so freenode is having troubles?
[00:29] <m1chael> does RedoBackup or Clonezilla work with new computers running Windows8/uefi ?
[00:30] <SunStar> redo works with pretty much everything
[00:30] <subcool> SunStar, i dont have the space to pull the data off.
[00:30] <allanx0> Dr_Willis : I have .encryptfs and .Private, Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop when i do "ls -la"
[00:30] <subcool> SunStar, im just tyring to mount it
[00:31] <mchlbhm> Dr_Willis, I guess I dont understand what that has to do with me not being able to open any web pages
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> alabala:  login as your user. on the console and look at the actual users files.. you are using an encrypted home
[00:32] <SunStar> subcool, only way i know to do that is to mount the raw .ISO or .img sorry
[00:32] <Loshki> elisa87: google says llvm has its own forums (fora?) at http://llvm.1065342.n5.nabble.com/
[00:32] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: I will just move the two files ".encryotfs and .Private"?
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  no.. dont TOUCH those.
[00:32] <allanx0> Ok
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  go to the CONSOLE.. alt-ctrl-f1 and login as your user.. and look at what files are there
[00:33] <treanet> Hi. How can I control networking properly from upstart on 12.04LTS? I continually get stop: Unknown instance: when service networking stop, or networking stop/waiting when service networking start  all I have is auto lo iface lo inet loopback ?
[00:34] <torpet> hi, what exact package (fluendo mp3) does the ubuntu installer deploy? if i do not enable it during installation and install ubuntu-restricted-extras afterwards, will it be included?
[00:34] <allanx0> Dr_Willis : I have .encryptfs and .Private, Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop and README.txt when i do "ls -la"
[00:35] <treanet> WTF.. i had to ifconfig eth0 down for service networking restart to work?
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  you went to the console and logged in?  or are you looking at the files as a differnt user?
[00:35] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: I login to my account on console with my username
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> alabala:   I dont use encrypted homes. so i dont know why that wouldent be unlocking your encrypted home. someone else may know
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> oops hat was for allanx0
[00:38] <treanet> I just dont get it
[00:39] <p7ank5te7>  I'm trying to change my hard drive out on my home server, which is just a single disk, and trying to go to a Raid 1, but I'm not understanding how I can do this(I've read over a few different tutorials, but being a linux n00b it still doesn't quite click). Can anyone give me a few pointers? Also to top it off, when the server was built, it appears that only 2 partitions were made, 1 being the
[00:39] <p7ank5te7> root( / ) and 1 being the swap. Does that pose additional problems
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> change the hd out? You are using raid with 1 hard drive?>
[00:41] <subcool> is anyone familiar with recreating a raid0?
[00:42] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: no thats typical for having /root and the swap being on 2 different partitions
[00:42] <p7ank5te7> Dr_WillisI'm currently using as a standalone HD, and I have acquired 2 new hard drives and want to move to them but have them as raid 1.
[00:43] <subcool> every time i do something i get mdadm: /dev/sdf1 is busy - skipping
[00:43] <utfans05> are you going to do it as a software raid or an actual hardware raid?
[00:43] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: Got it! Thanks :) sudo chmod u+w /home/user did the trick :)
[00:43] <p7ank5te7> I am missing the /boot partition from the guides though which is what is confusing me I guess utfans05.
[00:43] <p7ank5te7> utfans05: is that for me or subcool?
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  thats very weird that the  permissions got changed
[00:44] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: so there area few ways you can set it up, you can have /root be one partition /home be another and then a 3rd for your swap file.
[00:44] <utfans05> it was for both
[00:44] <subcool> utfans05, mines software
[00:44] <subcool> utfans05, its an old raid i had 6 years ago- im just trying to rebuild it - mount it and pull its info. it shouldnt be corrupt. im just too noob at this.
[00:44] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: Yeah after i apt-get and upgrade. I guess i will not apt-get and upgrade then lol
[00:45] <p7ank5te7> utfans05: Well, I'm not sure what to do. I have the bios which is capable of doing the raid, but heard it's better to have linux handle it?
[00:45] <allanx0> Dr_Willis: Thanks :)
[00:46] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: have you seen this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[00:46] <treanet> I have tons of tunnel interfaces up showing from initctl list | grep networking as:  network-interface-security (network-interface/br-tun) started/running .. how can I kill them?
[00:46] <utfans05> its older but should still work
[00:47] <treanet> pfff reboot
[00:48] <p7ank5te7> utfans05, isn't that for new setups though?
[00:48] <Warfar> if i want to install linux on a windows pc, it it better to make a new partion or install it on top of windows
[00:49] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: yes, arent you going from one drive to 2 totally different drives?
[00:50] <utfans05> Warfar: there is an option in the installer to install it side by side
[00:50] <Warfar> oh i'm using linux mint
[00:50] <utfans05> Warfar: you may want to ask in the mint channel.
[00:51] <p7ank5te7> utfans05, yes but I was hoping to clone the original os drive to the raid, versus re-install and rebuilding of the server
[00:51] <utfans05> well shit.. apparently there isnt one... lol
[00:51] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: you can install both drives and then move the data to them.
[00:52] <p7ank5te7> lol.. so my best bet in the world is to say f-it and just reinstall from scratch and rebuild?
[00:52] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: basically install a new linux image and then move over the data that you need onto those drives
[00:53] <mchlbhm> I wonder if reinstalling ubuntu would fix my wifi woes
[00:53] <utfans05> mchlbhm: possibly, whats goign on with them?
[00:53] <hfase> dd & mdadm but it would be no fun
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> allanx0:  apt-get should not have touched the permissions of your users home at all.. i think somting else goofed it up
[00:55] <mchlbhm> utfans05: dropping connection and not being able to browse web pages. I typed sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart but that only fixed it for a few minutes.
[00:55] <utfans05> mchlbhm: how good is your wireless signal, i ran into an issue where i wasnt getting a solid connection and that was the issue
[00:55] <p7ank5te7> Thanks utfans05 :)
[00:55] <KI4RO> .
[00:56] <utfans05> p7ank5te7: anytime!
[00:56] <mchlbhm> utfans05, it started after I switched from unity to gnome if that means anything lol
[00:56] <mchlbhm> utfans05, strong signal
[00:56] <utfans05> mchlbhm: is it different wireless managers between the 2? im unsure if its the same or not
[00:56] <KI4RO> I have a Toshiba A135 Satellite.  It seems to work okay but it does not seem to know which graphics card I am using
[00:57] <mchlbhm> utfans05, neither am I.
[00:57] <mchlbhm> utfans05, I wish I could google it. lol
[00:57] <utfans05> mchlbhm: i will give me a second
[00:58] <mchlbhm> utfans05, Thank you
[00:59] <hfase> lynx is great for terminal googling
[00:59] <utfans05> mchlbhm: why dont you try wicd, thats an alternative thats out there and it could correct the issue. withing knowing what the exact issue its a shot in the dark
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> mchlbhm, with earlier releases if you changed desktops, and did not have the network manager set to auto connect with all users problems could happen.
[00:59] <subcool> oK- am really bad with google< i cant find a thing on how to recreate this raid0
[01:00] <kunji> Does anyone know the command to blank the monitor (like what is done in powersaving only to do it manually)?
[01:00] <utfans05> subcool: your trying to recreate it? i didnt get the original question you had.
[01:01] <mchlbhm> utfans05, what is the network tool? it showsnetwork device as ethernet interface
[01:01] <subcool> utfans05, yeah<
[01:01] <natural> hey guys, i have a problem, how do I set up my settings so that my keyboard doesnt wakeup the computer from suspend, that the power button will wake it up, or the 'open lid' action will wake it up.
[01:01] <utfans05> mchlbhm: so you trying to use wireless or wired
[01:01] <mchlbhm> utfans05, wireless
[01:02] <natural> i have ubuntu 13.04
[01:02] <utfans05> mchlbhm: wicd is a wireless manager that might fix your issue
[01:02] <mchlbhm> utfans05,  how do i get that?
[01:03] <kunji> nvm, sorry guys found it, but it would have been mighty hard to find if I didn't remember it might be possible with xset
[01:03] <utfans05> mchlbhm: apt-get install wicd
[01:04] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:05] <natural> hey guys, i have a problem, how do I set up my settings so that my keyboard doesnt wakeup the computer from suspend, that the power button will wake it up, or the 'open lid' action will wake it up.  i'm using 13.04 64bit.
[01:06] <utfans05> natural: have you done any google searching?
[01:06] <natural> yeah utfans05 i cant find it, what words do you suggest?
[01:07] <mchlbhm> utfans05, Unable to locate package
[01:07] <utfans05> natural: give me a minute and let me do some searching, although i believe if you go under system settings you may be able to find it
[01:08] <natural> thanks utfans05 i will look into system settings
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> natural:  i was thinking - ive seen bios settings for that also. but  it most likely depends on the laptop :)
[01:08] <SunStar> in xfce Settings Editor; What is "autotablet" option for?
[01:09] <natural> yeah if it is that complicated, i'll jmust unplug my ke4yboard and close the lid, tht'll keepo it asleep
[01:09] <natural> utfans05,  ^^
[01:09] <hgri89> I was thinking bios settings also, check to see if your bios has USB keybord emulation enabled?
[01:10] <natural> hgri89, emulation?
[01:10] <natural> hgri89, do you mean legacy?
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> SunStar:  automatically run a command when a tblet is pluged in perhaps ---> http://tillamookrage.blogspot.com/2008/01/give-xfce-autoplay-automount.html
[01:10] <hgri89> yeah legasy
[01:11] <natural> hgri89, you know i'm trying to get the keyboard to disable during sleep, so the only thing thatwill wake it up is the open lid, or the powerbutton.
[01:11] <mkk> xrandr --output LVDS-1 --off ; this command works on command line, but when i create a bash startup script it doesn't do the job. can someone help me with this please?
[01:11] <utfans05> natural: yeah that should be in the bios
[01:11] <natural> ok, i'll check the bios, thanks again.
[01:11] <utfans05> mkk: have you set that script to run at startup?
[01:11] <SunStar> trying to figure out how to have the mouse auto-hide
[01:12] <utfans05> SunStar: that should be in your mouse settings
[01:12] <KI4RO> .
[01:12] <utfans05> SunStar: actually no, gime a sec
[01:12] <SunStar> nothing in there to have the mouse hide. just to hide cursor when typing or disable touch when typing
[01:12] <bindi> does my internet or freenode suck? disconencted 5 times past 24h
[01:12] <utfans05> SunStar: oh.... thats different from autohiding the mouse
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> bindi:  freenode is having issues right now
[01:13] <Neldogz> Hey All, I have a dual boot system with WIndows 7 and Ubuntu 13.04. I have a fake raid 1 which Windows sees but Ubuntu sees this as individual drives. Is there a way to enable this functionality in Ubuntu?
[01:13] <mkk> utfans05: i put that command in .bashrc  but it doesn't run at startup
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> mkk:  that would make the command run every time you open a shell.. that may not be what you want
[01:13] <bindi> Dr_Willis: ok, good to know. sorry for offtopic
[01:14] <SunStar> well some 1 else brough up a good point i've been pushing aside untill now.  on a kiosk machine, how to you hide the mouse untill its in use, then immediately hide it again after use
[01:14] <mchlbhm> utfans05, Thank you for your time. I'll come back later when things calm down a little
[01:14] <utfans05> mkk: .bashrc is  ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
[01:14] <mkk> Dr_Willis: what should i do do you think?
[01:14] <gueriLLaPunK> im trying to setup PPTP VPN server on my box... and i looked through the var/log/syslog
[01:14] <gueriLLaPunK> and this is what i got
[01:14] <gueriLLaPunK> http://pastie.org/7896990
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> mkk:  theres the  ~/.config/autostart/ directroy for running things when the user logs into th edesktop
[01:15] <utfans05> SunStar: install unclutter
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> !find unclutter
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> !info unclutter
[01:15] <th0r> mkk, used to be ~/.profile I think, but I don't know if ubuntu still recognizes it
[01:16] <SunStar> thanks!
[01:16] <mkk> thanks Dr_Willis i'll try that.
[01:16] <utfans05> anytime
[01:18] <hgri89> I hae a macbook pro 9,1 tripple booting with Osx 10.8.3, windows 7 and UBUNTU 13.04. Ubuntu is installed in EFI mode and now UBUNTU stalls when it is starting it just shows the ubuntu name with the dots as though its starting up but never moves, it does however boot recoverymode just fine.... any ideas why it may be stalling?
[01:19] <hgri89> it is pretty much a fresh install with NVIDIA drivers
[01:21] <hgri89> it booted well for the first few times after the driers were installed then it had a hissy at me
[01:21] <utfans05> hgri89: sounds like it may be throwing an error somewhere, you might want to check in your logs
[01:22] <michael87> has anyone figured out how to get mupen64 to work. it is a pain in my ass since project64 keeps slowwing down. tryying to help a friend to whom I gave linux to also
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> tried  http://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/ ?
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> still dosent look like its been updated in almost a year.
[01:30] <subman> When I get to the login screen, I have quite a few desktop environments installed.  I cannot seem to scroll them though.  I can only see a few of them.  Is this a bug?
[01:30] <XHEART24> is ubuntu 13 safe?
[01:31] <subman> XHEART24, ubuntu what?
[01:31] <XHEART24> the os
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> subman:  you could move ones you dont use to some backup dir. or try gdm - it may show them all
[01:31] <XHEART24> i havw 12.04
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> XHEART24:  why would you think its not safe?
[01:31] <utfans05> XHEART24: what do you is it safe?
[01:31] <utfans05> what do you mean...**
[01:31] <subman> Dr_Willis, how to change to gdm?
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> hgri89, Not my area in general, but people will get drivers from nvidia and not know that kernel changes can make them not work, not sure if this is relevent.
[01:31] <XHEART24> in the beginning always many bugs
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> subman:  sudo apt-get install gdm
[01:32] <michael87> Is there a step by step guide for mupen64plus? I need help seriously. I'd ask python but their room won't let me in.
[01:32] <subman> thanks Dr_Willis
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> XHEART24:  define what you mean by 'safe'
[01:32] <XHEART24> not crashing
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> michael87:  that url i posted for mupen64plus has the code and may have some guides.
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> michael87:  i dont seew how its python related.
[01:36] <michael87> Dr_Willis, I am tryying to find the guide and no dice. All the parts on here are TAR balls XD. I hate tar at this point
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> michael87:  search for a ppa.
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> or compile from source.
[01:38] <leptone> can some one link me to an article for installing and setting tor on 12.04
[01:39] <michael87> Dr_Willis, I'm on the mupenpage64. just found out they had a chat channel
[01:39] <utfans05> !find tor
[01:39] <utfans05> https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian
[01:41] <subcool> can someone help me recreate a raid 0-
[01:41] <subcool> i almost just formated my raid messing with this
[01:41] <WXZ> is there a "switch to desktop" launcher, which does what ctrl+super+d does?
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> theres a ubuntu tor wiki page
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> !tor
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> night all
[01:46] <brute`> just loaded 13.04 on my core i7 imac. video seems a bit jerky with the stock ati driver
[01:46] <brute`> any suggestions?
[01:46] <mdfe> brute - software updater, drivers tab, load new driver
[01:47] <mdfe> brute`, sorry should have pressed tab, see above comment
[01:47] <brute`> mdfe,  let me give that a try now, thanks
[01:51] <harrisr> my  built in mic is very weak why
[01:52] <harrisr> my  built in mic is very weak why
[01:52] <Ben66> !patience | harrisr
[01:53] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | harrisr
[01:54] <harrisr> SonikkuAmerica, when i was video chatting with my dad he said my mic was very low and he couldnt hear me
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> harrisr: Did you check in System Settings > Sound? And what were you using to video chat?
[01:56] <yofun> how do i check my cpu  info on ubuntu 13.04
[01:56] <yofun> ?
[01:56] <gustav___> yofun: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:57] <SpArTaKo> libowncloudsync0
[01:59] <linuxnewb2> I was able to get a Belkin 750n DB adapter to work
[01:59] <harrisr> i am using empathy
[01:59] <linuxnewb2> first time in over a year.
[01:59] <linuxnewb2> I'm so happy!
[02:00] <linuxnewb2> Random guy on a forum uploaded a driver, don't you love when that happens
[02:00] <Neptu> hej , Im trying to mount an SD card from my android phone I get this http://ideone.com/kCHqWY over dmesg but i cannot mount sg2 or sg3 any ideas?
[02:01] <natural> has anyone looked into why 13.04 isnt sleeping correctly?
[02:01] <Neptu> i mean should be a simple mount...
[02:06] <kunji> natural: It sleeps fine on my machine, sleep seems to always have had changing problems on different hardware -_-
[02:07] <spackalacka> wow, there are 1500 nicks in here
[02:07] <natural> kunji, it sleeps great in 12.10  but it wont stay asleep on my machine, i'm going to try resintallation
[02:07] <Saturn2888> Hi all! I'm having trouble upgrading the apps on my Ubuntu 12.10 server. There seems to be some kinda issue w/ aptitude and grub: http://pastebin.com/tuakWRC1
[02:08] <spackalacka> can someone tell me where to get help for a nonresponding mouse cursor in 10.04?
[02:08] <spackalacka> nothing related in dmesg
[02:08] <spackalacka> i connected a 2nd monitor and used the nvidia tool to enable it
[02:09] <subcool> anyone raid0 help
[02:09] <spackalacka> and i got an error which i didn't remember
[02:09] <spackalacka> so i closed the autoconfig and the mouse stopped responding
[02:09] <spackalacka> it still works at the login screen, but 2 seconds after login it freezes
[02:09] <spackalacka> keyboard still works
[02:09] <spackalacka> is this even a good place to get help on this?
[02:10] <subcool> spackalacka, im hving hte same issue
[02:10] <subcool> i hvae no diea
[02:10] <subcool> but my keyboard doesnt work
[02:10] <subcool> i gave up and remote in-
[02:11] <spackalacka> hmm
[02:11] <spackalacka> i even deleted my xconfig
[02:11] <spackalacka> and regenerated a new one
[02:11] <spackalacka> somehow i affected my mouse settings
[02:11] <spackalacka> i don't know where those are stored
[02:12] <harrisr> is there a website that test the stregth of microphone
[02:12] <subcool> spackalacka, i have no clue..
[02:14] <spackalacka> just restaredjust restare12
[02:15] <spackalacka> i restarted x
[02:15] <subcool> thats not gonna do it
[02:15] <spackalacka> i restarted everything too, even though that shouldn't be necessary
[02:16] <spackalacka> the only thing that should require a restart is a kernel change :p
[02:16] <Saturn2888> Hi all! I'm having trouble using apt-get dist-upgrade on Ubuntu 12.04 server. There seems to be some kinda issue w/ aptitude and grub dependencies: http://pastebin.com/tuakWRC1 Do you know what might be causing this and maybe how I can figure out a fix?
[02:16] <brute`> mdfe, under additional drivers i see 3 options
[02:16] <spackalacka> Saturn2888: i could maybe help if i could get my mouse to work
[02:16] <brute`> open source, and two proprietary
[02:16] <mdfe> didn't redhat do a patch to allow the kernel to be replaced without a reboot?what was it called?
[02:16] <brute`> one is from fglrx and one is from fglrx-updates
[02:17] <Saturn2888> spackalacka: ok!
[02:17] <spackalacka> what's the daemon called that controls the mouse in gnome?
[02:19] <kunji> natural: Yeah, that's what I mean by changing, each release it seems like sleep may have broken or have started working for any given machine, Though it does seem to work more often than not these days.  Good luck with the reinstall, not sure if it will help or not.
[02:19] <SonikkuAmerica> spackalacka: I think it's moused but I'm not sure...
[02:20] <natural> yeah, i'm debating whether or not to do it kunji, i think i will just wait for mint to put out the mint 15
[02:20] <harrisr> can't click allow on adobe flash player in ubuntu
[02:21] <harrisr> can't click allow on adobe flash player in ubuntu
[02:21] <heyman> How do I upload files to a website and download them using wget? I can't seem to mount my cd rw or have my ubuntu vm recognize my flash drive and I need to get some work done!
[02:22] <natural> it realy caught me by surprise, it has alwaysed worked for me on this machine
[02:22] <kunji> spackalacka: Sounds like a tough one.. I don't think I've ever had the mouse stop working without having absolutely everything GUI related stop working as well.  Closest I've has is disabling the touchpad on a laptop.
[02:22] <spackalacka> this is a laptop
[02:22] <harrisr> SonikkuAmerica,
[02:22] <spackalacka> lemme test with an external mouse
[02:22] <spackalacka> good point
[02:23] <heyman> How do I upload files to a website and download them using wget? I can't seem to mount my cd rw or have my ubuntu vm recognize my flash drive and I need to get some work done!
[02:23] <spackalacka> heyman: wget www.urltowhatyouwanttodownload.com/files.zip
[02:24] <mdfe> spackalacka, i had trackpad fail to be detected, had to copy/paste into x config
[02:24] <heyman> spackalacka, so I can upload to dropbox?
[02:24] <mdfe> spackalacka, give me a sec to find the file again
[02:24] <spackalacka> heyman: don't think you can wget from dropbox
[02:24] <spackalacka> but there is a dropbox daemon for ubuntu
[02:24] <spackalacka> get it from the dropbox website
[02:24] <heyman> k
[02:24] <kunji> heyman: Does wget upload, I mean if the site doesn't specifically support that method?  Maybe curl will work better for you?  Though I am not very familiar with either tool.
[02:24] <heyman> thanks
[02:24] <spackalacka> kunji: usb mouse does work
[02:24] <mdfe> why would you wget from dropbox?
[02:25] <spackalacka> why the hell did my trackpad suddenly fail
[02:25] <spackalacka> something in my xconfig must have changed
[02:25] <mdfe> spackalacka, 1 sec
[02:25] <spackalacka> k
[02:26] <kunji> spackalacka: Hmm, no idea, there's a setting for it in the Ubuntu settings thing, maybe see if it's disabled.  Maybe they use xset to change these things on the backend?
[02:29] <mdfe> spackalacka, i had the problem i stuck this in my xorg http://pastebin.com/Jd4B1UGA
[02:30] <spackalacka> mdfe: interesting
[02:30] <spackalacka> i'll give it a whirl
[02:30] <heyman> kunji, I have files on a flash drive that I need to get on my VM, I'm having difficulties mounting, so I was hoping i can download from a website as an alternative
[02:31] <heyman> spackalacka, do you know of any dropbox alternatives?
[02:31] <mdfe> heyman, is this gui or headless?
[02:31] <spackalacka> heyman: email them to yourself?
[02:31] <heyman> #/join wget
[02:32] <heyman> spackalacka, I have ubuntu server and only cli, I wouldn't be able to wget from that
[02:32] <spackalacka> ubuntu is inside the VM?
[02:32] <heyman> mdfe, its headless
[02:32] <mdfe> can try curl if wget doesnt work
[02:32] <heyman> spackalacka, it is the VM
[02:33] <heyman> mdfe, I need a website to host my files. I don't know where to put them and download easily
[02:34] <mdfe> heyman, ubuntuone?
[02:34] <SonikkuAmerica> !one
[02:34] <heyman> mdfe, would I be able to curl or wget from that? won't I have to do login stuff?
[02:35] <SonikkuAmerica> heyman: You can get the Ubuntu One client: [ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-one
[02:35] <mdfe> heyman, well you can upload them onto U-one from your desktop machine, then share the file via a web link
[02:35] <SonikkuAmerica> ]
[02:35] <heyman> thanks to everyone, I will give that a shot. I think that will work :)
[02:41] <iFlip> I have two NIC's on my machine - how do I ping 8.8.8.8 using eth1 instead on eth0 - I want to ensure that eth1 cannot access the Internet and eth0 can access the Internet.
[02:42] <rusty0101> iFlip: 'ping -I eth1 8.8.8.8' should do the trick.
[02:42] <mdfe> err i think 8.8.8.8 *is* internet
[02:42] <pobri19> Hi all. I'm booted into a live USB to try and recover data on an old linux install on /dev/sdg6, but when I mount /dev/sdg6 I can't access the data in my home dir, theres a file called 'Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop'. I think it's encrypted? Any idea how I can get access to the data? I know my passwords.
[02:43] <iFlip> rusty0101 perfect thanks!
[02:43] <rusty0101> iFlip: no problem.
[02:43] <iFlip> rusty0101 yes that did it. Perfect thank you
[02:46] <rusty0101> iFlip: You can also use the 'route' command to see what interfaces have a default route defined.
[02:46] <Jordan_U> pobri19: If you google "ecryptfs home liveCD" you should find a good guide from the main developer of ecryptfs on how to do this (if I could browse properly myself at the moment I'd give you a direct link).
[02:46] <spackalacka> hmm, mdfe, those settings weren't parsed right
[02:46] <spackalacka> i hda to revert to an old config
[02:46] <spackalacka> which i think is older than when my mouse stopped working
[02:46] <pobri19> Jordan_U: thanks, I'll have a look
[02:46] <spackalacka> so i should be back to square one
[02:46] <spackalacka> but i'm not
[02:46] <prophit> I'm trying to 'sudo python setup.py install' the JPype Python library and have the build-essential package installed, but Python seems to think 'gcc' is mapped to 'x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc' and so I get error: command 'x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1.. any ideas?
[02:47] <iFlip> rusty0101 Good thinking. I want to make sure that eth0 can access Internet and eth1 is only access from within my local net. But I'm nervous now that eth1 is conflicting with eth0.
[02:47] <spackalacka> yeah, this xconfig is from when i first set up the computer
[02:47] <spackalacka> it should be legit
[02:48] <spackalacka> something else must be at play here
[02:48] <spackalacka> ...
[02:48] <iFlip> I wanted eth1 to be used primarily for SSH and remote desktop while eth0 was used for managing my database on the Internet.
[02:50] <neekz0r> iflip: set the default route through eth0
[02:51] <neekz0r> iFlip: if you want to make double sure eth1 never accesses the internet, set up  an ip tables rule :)
[02:51] <Jordan_U> pobri19: You're welcome.
[02:54] <diiphantom> what is the best way to play youtube? flash?
[02:54] <jordan4ibanez> Oh gosh, I installed 68GB of games.
[02:54] <jordan4ibanez> I started with Sauerbraten, what happened? D:
[02:55] <pobri19> I followed the instructions here: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/ but I get an error 'open: Permission denied Error locking counter' when I run ecryptfs-mount-private :|
[02:57] <coded1> how do I restrict a user from traversing mounted drives in /media?
[02:57] <Jordan_U> pobri19: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html is a better site (though I don't know that it will solve the problem you're having).
[02:58] <Jordan_U> pobri19: If that doesn't work, try joining #ecryptfs on irc.oftc.net.
[03:06] <rabelais> I'm in lucid, does anyone know why the xinput argument "coordinate tranformation matrix" is not being respected even though it is set? I am trying to scale the transformation for a tablet and it is having no effect. The argument has no effect on my mouse either if I try it on that
[03:07] <rosco_y> What is "Raring Ringtail"?
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> rabelais, Your aware the desktop is end of life?
[03:07] <Noskcaj> !13.04 | rosco_y
[03:07] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: The dev codename for Ubuntu 13.04. :)
[03:08] <friedg> nah desktop is fine
[03:08] <friedg> just fewer people buying hardware
[03:08] <jordan4ibanez> I wonder if there is a supertuxkart IRC.
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> friedg, Lucid desktop is end of life, not supported.
[03:09] <friedg> oh ok, i just joined
[03:09] <friedg> didnt see the rest of the convo
[03:09] <rosco_y> Noskcaj: ty.  I thought it was an additional CD I needed to download, if I wanted to install it.
[03:09] <SonikkuAmerica> friedg: Sad but true.
[03:09] <melow01> I was setting up Wordpress on localhost on Ubuntu, deleted some users in MySQL and now Chrome won't start... any thoughts?
[03:10] <rosco_y> has anyone moved up to 13.04, and either regrets the move, or thinks it's the best thing since ____ ____
[03:10] <SonikkuAmerica> !poll | rosco_y: Best since Lucid here on Kubuntu..., but
[03:10] <Dexi> Guys am I doing something wrong or is nickserv offline?
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Dexi: You're all good AFAIk
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Dexi: Are you using Quassel?
[03:11] <kostkon_> melow01, coincidental? try running it in the terminal and check for any error messages etc
[03:11] <melow01> Dexi, usually I get a prompt to login but I didn't today... odd
[03:12] <rabelais> wilee-nilee: sad, you're right...apparently that parameter is only available on xserver versions 1.8 or later and apparently lucid is holding strong on 1.7.5
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> Dexi, The IRC had some problems earlier, seems okay from my end now.
[03:12] <melow01> kostkon, never used it from the terminal but I'll tinker...
[03:12] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: ty, I'll back off on seeking out opinions..  I've been running LTS, but have recently become disenchanted with it, and am trying to determine if I'd be doing the right thing by upgrading.....
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: If you like upgrading every 6 moths and having the latest stuff...
[03:13] <melow01> kostkon, I think I may have deleted the user for my hostname
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: And bees and butterfiles while we're at it :)
[03:13] <melow01> kostkon, I didn't realize Chrome used MySQL but I suppose I should'v'e known...
[03:13] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: I really have enjoyed how solid LTS has been, but a recent kernel update has my cpu begging for mercy now
[03:14] <kostkon_> melow01, oh. interesting
[03:14] <rosco_y> I'm sure it'll be fixed eventually, but right now it's pretty frustrating
[03:14] <root> lawl im user root on freenode
[03:14] <rosco_y> so I'm trying to "look before I leap"
[03:15] <friedg> someone should make a bot that scans wikipedia for the answer to everything
[03:15] <rosco_y> maybe I should be patient for a couple of weeks or more.  And again, maybe it's time to move on
[03:15] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: Move on?
[03:15] <melow01> kostkon, I deleted SingltonLock and when I launched Chrome, it recreated a new SingletonLock symlinked to another hostname
[03:15] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: from 12.04 to 13.04 (I wasn't a fan of 12.10
[03:16] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: Kubuntu's default layout in 12.XX was atrocious. 13.04 is quieter, more energetic.
[03:17] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: can you explain that a bit?
[03:17] <melow01> So, if I deleted some users in MySQL, should I be concerned that I'll run into more issues with Ubuntu?
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: Check this first of all: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Kubuntu-12-04-LTS-Screenshot-Tour-2.jpg <<< So gloomy, so gray....
[03:18] <rosco_y> I have read people's opinions reporting 13.04 to be rather solid
[03:18] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: ty!
[03:19] <rosco_y> wait, that's just a picture of a desktop, what's the point?
[03:19] <SonikkuAmerica> The new Kubuntu 13.04 wallpaper: http://ubuntuone.com/3W0R4FhzKMC8aECIj3QD1O <<< Comforting, energy-emitting (don't turn the carbon tax people loose on me)
[03:19] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: It's just a compare-and-contrast I'm doing. What are you really looking for?
[03:20] <bleemoo> Has network printing gone away in 13.04? My computer is no longer able to connect to my networked printer, and there does not appear to be any way for me to add it manually.
[03:20] <thufir_> is this a password problem with firefox sync?  I reset the password, but the sync log still shows errors:  http://pastebin.com/M45AjprD
[03:20] <SonikkuAmerica> bleemoo: Hit Alt-F2 and type [ system-config-printer ].
[03:21] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: :) Right now my problem is that a number of my processes seem to go into a "disk sleep" state, putting a processor into a 100% used state.
[03:21] <rosco_y> I'm thinking of upgrading to get back my performance, but I don't want to upgrade into a really unstable environment
[03:22] <rosco_y> I'm trying to finish a project, so it's a double-edged knife, as they say
[03:22] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: The heuristic we measure by is as follows: Once a release hits the main repos (usually on April 25th for XX.04 or October 25th for XX.10), it's stable. End of story.
[03:23] <rosco_y> on the one hand, I'd like to upgrade ot see if the CPU problems go away, on the other, I don't want to get into a situation where I have to reboot three times a day to keep the system going.
[03:23] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: You can run [ do-release-upgrade ] with no arguments until it says "No new release found" and you'll know you have the latest stable version.
[03:23] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: You can run [ do-release-upgrade ] with no arguments until it says "No new release found" and you'll know you have the latest stable version.
[03:24] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: right now I'm running 12.04 LTS, I was under the impression that this would be likely to be stable, and it has, but now I'm thinking of upgrading
[03:25] <SonikkuAmerica> 13.04 is much faster; what's your CPU?
[03:26] <rosco_y> It's an AMD ~3.2Gz dual processor of some sort or another....I don't know exactly
[03:26] <rosco_y> I've got 8 gb RAM.
[03:26] <rosco_y> it's been really sweet for what I do...
[03:27] <rosco_y> a recent kernel update has a problem in it, (in my opinnion), and I've read some on the net related to the type of problem I'm having
[03:27] <SonikkuAmerica> rosco_y: I see. I hate to break the convo, but it's 11:30 PM here. Gotta go!
[03:27] <rosco_y> SonikkuAmerica: have a good one--Thanks!
[03:30] <James_Epp> I am having the most terrible time trying to mount an iso atm: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 ubuntu.iso (abbreviated here, i386 desktop 12.04)
[03:31] <DarwinSurvivor> James_Epp: are you getting an error?
[03:32] <James_Epp> first I did sudo su, navigated to the directory containing the .iso, and performed mount -o loop -t iso9660 ubuntu.iso /mnt/ubuntu and I get mount: wrong fs type, bad operation, bad superblock on /dev/loop1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[03:33] <SmallFry> ugh
[03:33] <leptone> i cant register with the nickserv...
[03:33] <leptone> whats going on?
[03:33] <SmallFry> nickserv had some troubles earlier
[03:33] <SmallFry> the entire Freenode Chanserv and nickserv went down
[03:33] <James_Epp> leptone: Sometimes when I reboot my machines it resolves it. timeouts of some kind on all my devices.
[03:34] <James_Epp> DarwinSurvivor: I am wondering if it is that I am using the wrong filetype? Perhaps the filesystem I am specifying is incorrect? I believe it was correct for older versions of ubuntu in 9/10
[03:35] <yofun|2> how would i mount a ftp server as a folder?
[03:35] <yofun|2> like /home/yofun/ftp
[03:35] <James_Epp> ^^I would want the answer to this query as well---been bugging me 5ever.
[03:38] <James_Epp> Does anyone know what the filetype is for the ubuntu 12.04 desktop i386 iso? Apparently it is not iso9660
[03:38] <lacy> umm...
[03:38] <yofun> James_Epp:  what do you mean?
[03:38] <yofun> rhe name of the file?
[03:38] <James_Epp> mount -o loop -t iso9660 ubuntu.iso /mnt/ubuntu Does not work.
[03:39] <yofun> ah
[03:39] <James_Epp> The only difference in this screenshot is the use of temp.iso instead of ubuntu.iso
[03:39] <SmallFry> hm. when you guys finish with james' problem, I've got a thing to tinker with also
[03:39] <James_Epp> http://i.imgur.com/fBlATYz.png
[03:41] <sudokode> James_Epp: file temp.iso
[03:41] <James_Epp> The first bit there is me being n00b and not having a directory in the first place :P
[03:41] <sudokode> (that's a command)
[03:41] <James_Epp> temp.iso = ubuntu 12.04 desktop i386.iso
[03:41] <sudokode> well, substitute the name. do whatever
[03:41] <James_Epp> sudokode: output is temp.iso: data
[03:41] <amarcolino> just decided to grep my syslog to look at allowed connection and found the ip 129.215.160.240 supposedly belonging to Edinburgh University local area network, just wondering why I am recieving packets from this ip and whether I should be worried?
[03:41] <sudokode> hm. that doesn't surprise me. let me check something..
[03:41] <James_Epp> TY in advance.
[03:41] <sudokode> ah yes. data.. x86 boot sector...
[03:41] <sudokode> not gonna get much out of file magic apparently
[03:42] <yofun> how would i mount a ftp server as a folder?
[03:42] <yofun> like /home/yofun/ftp
[03:42] <sudokode> anyway, I assume it actually is an iso9660 file
[03:42] <James_Epp> Nevermind my issue. I have an alternative I will cook up. Can we talk about yofun's?
[03:43] <sudokode> yofun: I'm gonna take a wild guess and say there's an ftpfs fuse module
[03:43] <sudokode> but that's simply because everything has a fuse module
[03:43] <James_Epp> yofun: sudokode: I have tinkered with it myself, but never figured it out.
[03:43] <sudokode> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTPFS
[03:44] <sudokode> I've heard of sshfs and sftp, so that doesn't surprise me
[03:44] <James_Epp> As for commands, it has always bugged me >.<
[03:45] <sudokode> I assume you just need to install the proper package to get the stuff for fuse and then mount <host> /mnt
[03:45] <sudokode> there may be a different syntax there. I'm sure google knows it
[03:45] <sudokode> may need -t ftpfs or some such
[03:46] <yofun> http://hartvig.de/2009/howto-mount-a-ftp-drive-in-ubuntu/ ?
[03:46] <yofun> might work
[03:46] <sudokode> that sounds about right
[03:46] <sudokode> says 2009, so may not work as expected, but it's worth a try
[03:46] <thufir_> how do you know why a sync failed?  all I see is that it will try again after trying to obtain lock.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/294222/firefox-aboutsync-log-gives-error-sync-failed
[03:47] <James_Epp> sudokode: Do you know how to edit the config files so the mount occurs on reboot?
[03:47] <sudokode> thufir_:  Exception: Could not acquire lock. Label: "service.js: sync". No traceback available
[03:47] <sudokode> that's probably a good start
[03:47] <sudokode> maybe delete that file if you're sure there's not a sync currently taking place
[03:48] <sudokode> or rather, find the lock file and delete that
[03:48] <sudokode> don't delete that actual file
[03:48] <sudokode> maybe I'll learn to read some day
[03:48] <thufir_> hmm
[03:49] <sudokode> but that seems to be where the sync borks
[03:49] <thufir_> is it possibe to see whether a sync is occuring?
[03:49] <sudokode> that file is locked by something
[03:49] <sudokode> not really. no doubt this is all internal to firefox besides what logs you can find
[03:49] <thufir_> which file is locked? can I use ps to see what's locking it?
[03:49] <sudokode> a lock file is pretty arbitrary
[03:50] <thufir_> maybe I'll just logout?  login again?
[03:50] <sudokode> umm. you might be able to, depending on how that happens
[03:50] <sudokode> no
[03:50] <sudokode> lsof service.js
[03:50] <sudokode> better yet, find the actual lock file
[03:50] <sudokode> (hint: it may be a dotfile)
[03:51] <thufir_> hidden .services.js in home/thufir/.mozilla/ somewhere, then run lof services.js on it?
[03:51] <sudokode> usually a lock file is something like /path/to/.foo.ext.lck
[03:52] <sudokode> it varies wildly
[03:52] <XMLnewbi> so I just checked my routher logs, im getting tons of errors, 	**SYN Flood** 192.168.2.2, 59614->> 49.144.199.47, 51413 (from WAN Outbound) looks like 6 errors a second
[03:53] <sudokode> but just doing lsof /path/to/service.js might give you some idea
[03:53] <XMLnewbi> can some one ddos and comcast DHCP residental connection? my internet has be insainly slow the last few days
[03:53] <sudokode> (the normal file in this case, not the lock file)
[03:54] <sudokode> someone can ddos anything.. the question is why would they ddos you
[03:54] <thufir_> sudokode: ok.  I'm still looking, but it gives me something to look into :)
[03:55] <sudokode> thufir_: find is useful in this case. always a good opportunity to learn how to use it
[03:55] <sudokode> perhaps find ~ -name service.js
[03:56] <thufir_> ah, I was trying locate
[03:56] <sudokode> locate is fine. as long as your db is updated
[03:57] <sudokode> it'll be faster, but you need to make sure everything is indexed beforehand
[03:57] <sudokode> find is probably more useful for situations like this
[03:58] <Aethysius> My printer isn't working with my system; the job gets sent to it, but then it disappears, and doesn't get printed.
[03:58] <sudokode> bad print driver perhaps?
[03:58] <sudokode> I hate cups. haaaatttteee it
[03:58] <Aethysius> Is there an alternative?
[03:58] <sudokode> not really
[03:59] <sudokode> best thing you can do is deal with cups and get an hp printer
[03:59] <sudokode> hp has been exceptional when it comes to producing linux drivers
[03:59] <Aethysius> I like my brother MFC.
[03:59] <sudokode> brother is nice too. nothing against them
[04:00] <sudokode> especially their laserjets
[04:00] <sudokode> they do have decent drivers
[04:00] <sudokode> but hp is still ahead of them in coverage, I'd say
[04:00] <sudokode> epson.. not too far behind...
[04:00] <sudokode> lexmark.. forget it
[04:01] <sudokode> anyway, so you have a brother mfc and your print jobs are just disappearing...
[04:02] <sudokode> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2101182
[04:02] <sudokode> anything like that?
[04:08] <yofun> btw it works :)
[04:09] <cjae> is one just better off getting vbox directly from oracle?
[04:09] <cjae> then repo
[04:10] <subcool> k- im back.
[04:10] <subcool> Is anyone famliar with RAID0? I need help recreating a raid0
[04:10] <subcool> im not getting very far with google, and i almost formatted it once already..
[04:12] <tekkbuzz> Got an apt-get upgrade question, every time I run "apt-get upgrade" I get this error/comment: The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic    Why are the kept back and does anyone know how to fix it?
[04:13] <chiluk> subcool... if it's an mdadm created raid look into mdadm --assemble --auto
[04:13] <tekkbuzz> Everything else upgrades fine.
[04:13] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | tekkbuzz
[04:13] <chiluk> subcool, if it's a fakeraid intel ... then you won't find much help here... as that's before the OS
[04:14] <tekkbuzz> bazhang: I didnt do a dist-upgrade , just a normal one.
[04:15] <bazhang> tekkbuzz, thats what is needed
[04:15] <subcool> chiluk, i made this thing syears ago- i have no clue whats even on it anymore
[04:15] <subcool> chiluk, all i know is- that ther eis personal info on it i want off.
[04:16] <subcool> I remember making it in linux, it may be a fake raid- but i worked with someof the guys before and we gathered that it is an actice healyth raid0
[04:16] <chiluk> subcool if you don't know how you created the raid then frankly I can't help much
[04:16] <tekkbuzz> dang, I hate doing dist-upgrades until absolutely necessary , always have to many fixes to do afterwards.
[04:16] <subcool> aside from that- i don tknow how to mount it.. we've gotten a lil farther then before -- but..
[04:16] <chiluk> subcool run mdadm --detail /dev/md*
[04:16] <subcool> chiluk, it was 6-7 years ago
[04:16] <bazhang> tekkbuzz, its NOT a version upgrade
[04:17] <tekkbuzz> bazhang: no?
[04:17] <subcool> chiluk, its not coming up right now- ill mount it to md0 again, but it gets stuck
[04:17] <chiluk> what do you mean stuck?
[04:17] <bazhang> tekkbuzz, read what the bot said above. it just brings in those packages, nothing more
[04:18] <chiluk> subcool by that I assume you mean mount /dev/md0  /mnt/md0..
[04:18] <subcool> subcool@Media-subcool:~$ sudo mdadm -A -R /dev/md0 /dev/sdf1 /dev/sdg1
[04:18] <subcool> mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 2 drives.
[04:18] <tekkbuzz> bazhang: okay thanks, I'm a old fedora user coming into debian/ubuntu crowd.
[04:19] <chiluk> you might want to check to see if you created a partition table on md0.
[04:19] <chiluk> subcool try sudo fdisk /dev/md0
[04:19] <subcool> chiluk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5656899
[04:20] <subcool> chiluk, im getting different results this time than i was before
[04:20] <chiluk> subcool, yeah sometimes my old hardware does that too.
[04:21] <subcool> fdisk came back with a - error.. kinda? Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel
[04:21] <subcool> Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0x1df0230c.
[04:21] <chiluk> no.
[04:21] <chiluk> don'tl
[04:21] <chiluk> you probably created a partition directly on the device.
[04:22] <chiluk> although mdadm -R is pretty much a force it to work kind of thing
[04:22] <chiluk> probably not what you want.
[04:23] <subcool> got me-
[04:23] <subcool> couple guys were helping, im super super noob to this
[04:23] <subcool> making this 7 years ago was my frist attempt and last
[04:23] <subcool> im just trying to recover what i can.
[04:23] <subcool> OMG- i mounted!!!
[04:24] <chiluk> get your stuff off as soon as possible.
[04:24] <chiluk> hopefully it's readable.
[04:24] <chiluk> in the future don't put anything on a raid 0 you can't live without.
[04:24] <chiluk> hard drives have just gotten more unreliable
[04:25] <casual_llama> I recently had a computer freeze where I could move my mouse, hear the sound from a YouTube clip I was watching, but otherwise everything was frozen.
[04:25] <subcool> chiluk, yea- i know..
[04:25] <casual_llama> I could not drop into a terminal with ctrl+alt+f2 and the like.
[04:25] <subcool> im not sure what i can get from it- i wasnt expecting it to mount
[04:25] <subcool> this is .. odd
[04:26] <casual_llama> Is there a way to recover from that sort of a freeze? I'm not sure what to do other than REISUB and hope my work is saved or remains recoverable.
[04:26] <subcool> i tihnk im locked out of it- im not allowed in the home folder
[04:26] <subcool> but- it says its about half full
[04:26] <chiluk> try sudo su -
[04:26] <chiluk> to be come root..
[04:26] <chiluk> and don't let anyone know I told you.
[04:27] <subcool> i know that command, im not that noobish
[04:27] <subcool> i just stray from things i dont know
[04:27] <subcool> but i need a gui on this
[04:27] <subcool> im running baobab now to check it out
[04:28] <chiluk> alright I'm going to sleep.. good luck.
[04:28] <subcool> crap
[04:28] <subcool> thanks
[04:28] <subcool> um- .
[04:28] <subcool> um
[04:28] <FloodBot1> subcool: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <subcool> :p
[04:28] <subcool> any suggestions?
[04:28] <subcool> i can open dolphin from cli right?
[04:29] <hfase> try hitting ctrl alt f- somthing
[04:30] <subcool> :/
[04:31] <subcool> soemthing is certainly up-
[04:32] <chaita_> help
[04:32] <subcool> **throws lifesaver **
[04:33] <subcool> ok- this thing is being stupid, how do i open dolphin as root?
[04:34] <subcool> AHHh- i havent dont it in so long i forgot
[04:34] <subcool> how do i open a window manager as root
[04:36] <subcool> seriously? no one?
[04:37] <mk> subcool, Why?
[04:37] <subcool> i need to view and move something around
[04:37] <subcool> its only allowing me to view it as root
[04:38] <subcool> im not sure i want to chown the directory
[04:38] <mk> A file?
[04:38] <subcool> a ton of files
[04:38] <subcool> please
[04:38] <subcool> i know the dangers
[04:38] <subcool> gksu isnt working
[04:38] <FloodBot1> subcool: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:38] <mk> You know command line, bash atall?
[04:38] <subcool> a smdige
[04:38] <subcool> kdesudo?
[04:38] <mk> Just use bash, and sudo.
[04:38] <subcool> kdesudo worked...
[04:39] <mk> I don't really like the idea of you using a WM as root, but sudo startx is basically what you want. You gotta kill X first though.
[04:39] <subcool> nah- i dont wanna do that.
[04:39] <mk> Or you could kdesudo the FM
[04:39] <subcool> i just wanna move around as root
[04:40] <subcool> yea.. just got it
[04:40] <subcool> damn 90gig of stuff hidden
[04:42] <goddard> anyone use sublime text?
[04:54] <zeep> anyone else experiencing random graphical artifacts? like if an application was minimized or something (but nothing actually happened)
[04:55] <Komplex> not I
[04:55] <Komplex> running 13.04 stock vid drivers
[04:55] <kunji> zeep: That's an extremely generic question, it will have a lot to do with your graphics hardware and firmware.
[04:55] <zeep> using fglrx-updates
[04:56] <zeep> i'll see if i can catch a screenshot next time it happens
[04:56] <Komplex> i'm running ati btw - just fyi
[04:58] <Ari-Yang> zeep, fglrx is horrible
[04:58] <Ari-Yang> you're better off using open source drivers
[05:00] <zeep> i agree, but i get better 3d with the prop driver. although the radeon driver has improved a lot. i can play tf2 with decent fps
[05:01] <zeep> soon enough it'll be great enough for me to switch back
[05:01] <Ari-Yang> ah, I see.
[05:02] <quick-> Hi , i installed gnome3.9 on 12.04 LTS and my wifi and GUI aren't working . Please help.
[05:04] <zeep> 3.9?
[05:05] <quick-> zeep: ya
[05:05] <zeep> latest stable is 3.8
[05:05] <qin> quick-: not really certain if such errants are supported here, does xinit works?
[05:06] <zeep> is 3.8 going to the repos anytime soon?
[05:07] <quick-> zeep: i used a ppa .
[05:08] <quick-> qin:  I fixed it . Thank you . Now atleast unity is working :)
[05:08] <zeep> quick-,  i meant that 3.9 is probably alpha and is going to be buggy
[05:10] <hemangpatel> Morning
[05:10] <hemangpatel> finally got my first laptop lenovo t430u
[05:11] <quick-> zeep:  ya it is but the UI is awesome :)
[05:11] <hemangpatel> I want to install ubuntu 13.04. but it comes with UEFI.
[05:11] <hemangpatel> So, what's the recomandation ?
[05:11] <hemangpatel> is ubuntu support all drivers ?
[05:13] <zeep> quick-,  is it different than 3.8?
[05:13] <zeep> quick-, i also like gnome :)
[05:13] <Marlo> mirando
[05:13] <quick-> ya i haven't used 3.8  . So I can't say
[05:13] <quick-> zeep:  i haven't used 3.8  . So I can't say
[05:13] <zeep> ah ok
[05:14] <qin> quick-: is not 3.8 less buggy than 3.9 and looks tha same?
[05:15] <zeep> well 3.8 is the latest stable
[05:15] <zeep> released not too long ago
[05:15] <qin> only thingy annoying me, silly fonts size reverts on reboot...
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | hemangpatel see this wiki
[05:18] <kunji> hemangpatel: I'm not familiar with that laptop, so I don't really know.  Should be installable on UEFI, though it might be a strugle.  On my MSI GX60 there was a legacy mode, so I haven't bothered trying hard for the UEFI install yet (the live USB would boot to a blank screen in UEFI boot mode).
[05:23] <kunji> wilee-nilee: in that page you linked, I don't think the part about the cases when Ubuntu must be installed in EFI mode are entirely accurate right?  Is that actually for being on the same disk rather than the same system, or if you want to use the same boot method?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> kunji, Not sure to be honest I have not had to mess with a uefi. The options are attached to manufacturers having some different tweaks so it is a bit of test and find the working options.
[05:28] <kunji> wilee-nilee: Hmm, ok, because I have windows in UEFI, and Ubuntu in Legacy, I switch my BIOS between UEFI and Legacy boot modes to pick what I'm going to boot rather than doing it in GRUB.  I don't have issues with GPT vs. MBR for sure because my installs are on different drives.  This situation is technically contrary to what is in that paragraph, but I think most people will want to use GRUB to pick rather than editing the BIOS each time 
[05:29] <capinjack> after an instal of deft7.2(Ubuntu / Lubuntu ) I'm getting an out of range signal on the monitor. I'vr tried following instructions to update the nvidia drivers without luck and would appreciate help
[05:29] <nightdemon666> indeed, ... does windows not boot at all in legacy mode?
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> kunji, I have not seen anyone having to edit the bios just to boot either OS.
[05:30] <Komplex> i'm to lazy to switch between em...  :P  grub ftw
[05:30] <nightdemon666> capinjack, it seems you will have to develop a custom xorg config file.
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> I believe there are chainloads two boot partitions in a uefi install I think
[05:30] <kunji> wilee-nilee: I do, well, it's the consequence of doing one Legacy and one UEFI boot, unless GRUB can go back to boot UEFI with the BIOS in Legacy mode.
[05:31] <Synthpop> any staff on i forgot my passwd
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> kunji, Makes me glad not have to mess with it, maybe sooner or later. ;)
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> Synthpop, #freenode can help you.
[05:32] <kunji> wilee-nilee: Well, that's how I'm in this situation, too lazy to get my UEFI install to work XD
[05:32] <capinjack> @nightdemon666, any advice on where to look for instructions on that?
[05:32] <kunji> wilee-nilee: I'll probably go after it after I finish my thesis, another 1-2 weeks I think.
[05:33] <nightdemon666> capinjack, im sure the great google can help provide direction on that, but in the end you will have to be prepared to work in the command line.
[05:34] <capinjack> I think I can access to the command line
[05:34] <nightdemon666> capinjack, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:35] <capinjack> nightdemon666, it's  Deft7.2 distro, the same thing happens with the latest (12.04?) of Ubuntu
[05:36] <kunji> With an out of range signal on the monitor?  Maybe using the rescue mode so the graphics never start?  He said Deft 7.2, might be a derivative?
[05:36] <capinjack> I'm trying the xfconfig now
[05:37] <nightdemon666> i must ask... whats the Deft distro?
[05:38] <nightdemon666> i could look it up, but im watching george carlin...
[05:38] <kunji> Oh, hmm, a forensics distro, interesting, but not supported here.  Latest Ubuntu is 13.04... since you're mixing that up with a version a year older... are you SURE it's the same?  Might want to actually bust out your Ubuntu copy if you want support here -_-
[05:39] <capinjack> Deft has forensics apps included
[05:39] <capinjack> Kunji, I can do that, I have it on another drive
[05:41] <kunji> capinjack: I wish I knew more about fixing the problem though, I'm unfortunately kinda useless on this one.  I just thought you should know the policy on support so that other people can help out.  In retrospect what I typed sounds a bit mean, sorry about that.
[05:43] <nightdemon666> i see... you will need to create a custon xorg config file from a distro that DOES have working monitor signals. what i do is, press ctrl+alt+F1. this puts me in a terminal that will work for this type of task. then i type sudo service (kdm, gdm, lxdm, lightdm [i dont know what desktop manager is running on the Deft Distro (youre goingot make me look all this up arent you???)]) stop. then sudo Xorg -configure
[05:44] <prince_jammys> he can echo /etc/init.d/*dm
[05:44] <nightdemon666> i will reiterate this better in a moment after i look up deft distro...
[05:44] <capinjack> no problem, kuji, I have a feeling the fix will be the same, so I learn, no biggy. On the Ubuntu drive I have an 8.1 distro, which can't be upgraded, the 13.04 fails back to that when left to boot from the hard drive. SO maybe I can create the xconfig there?
[05:45] <nightdemon666> capinjack, it looks like it uses lxdm as desktop manager no?
[05:46] <capinjack> that sounds familiar
[05:46] <capinjack> sorry, nightdemon, I switched gears to 'pure' Ubuntu to stay with the channel, same story with 13.04 and my hardware
[05:49] <nightdemon666> this is what i would do, i would run a live version of ubuntu on a flash drive. then i would type ctrl+alt+F2, then i would type sudo service lightdm stop. then type sudo Xorg -configure. the file should have ended up in the ubuntu home folder. it may be simpler to just re-enter graphical mode by typing sudo service lightdm start. then enter the home folder. mount your deft distro, and move the xorg.conf file from the 
[05:50] <nightdemon666> oh, just saw what you typed a moment ago, same would or "should" apply to 13.04
[05:50] <capinjack> thanks, I'll give that a whirl
[05:52] <nightdemon666> conceptually, you can do this a number of different ways, but creating a "known working configuration" xorg.conf file and placing it into the /etc/X11 file folder of your distro failing to properly display, generally does the trick.
[05:55] <nightdemon666> just BEWARE that when you do that, and the configuration in the generated file doesnt work for some reason, you WILL be likely operating in command line mode trying to recover. how off is the display in Deft?
[05:56] <capinjack> There's no display, the monitor reports out of range, checked with a 2nd mon, same msg
[06:00] <Geoffrey2> would changing Ubuntu's desktop manager to xfce cause it not to detect a new version release?
[06:01] <nightdemon666> i see... but the same monitor, and same hardware does work with previous version of ubuntu?
[06:01] <capinjack> yes, 8.1
[06:01] <nightdemon666> um, ubuntu 8.1???
[06:02] <capinjack> sorry, that's correct
[06:02] <Geoffrey2> because I can't get this to admit version 13.04 is available...
[06:02] <qin> Geoffrey2: are you LTS?
[06:02] <Geoffrey2> version installed is 12.10....
[06:03] <nightdemon666> thats a good question qin... i think if you are on an LTS release, only LTS releases are shown available when they are...
[06:04] <Geoffrey2> ok, any manual way to tell it to go fetch?
[06:04] <Guest4931> how can i determine the size of my monitor in inches? technically i could go out and buy a ruler... but it's 2am.
[06:04] <Ari-Yang> I'm on 12.10 and when I check for updates and after software is updated it notifies me of 13.04
[06:04] <qin> Geoffrey2: sudo apt-get update; do-release-upgrade; ?
[06:04] <nightdemon666> other than that, i think perhaps installing xfce probably did mess the upgrade thing up. if you really need the upgrade that bad, then sudo apt-get distro-upgrade i think is the command... but you may be upset because it doesnt prompt you when it should. i suppose you ran an update correct?
[06:05] <qin> Geoffrey2: or maybe first: update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:05] <Geoffrey2> I did the update, upgrade....it just brought all the files up to date....
[06:06] <nightdemon666> oh, do-release-upgrade does the same as distro-upgrade? didnt know that... anyway, i usually steer people from doing an upgrade like that because it tends to be problematic. clean installs seem to work more reliably, even though the do-release-upgrade "should" work.
[06:06] <qin> Geoffrey2: and: lsb_release; says what?
[06:06] <capinjack> I can't update 8.1, after an install of 13.04 I get the same signal display out of range error. Trying to get up to speed on this
[06:07] <Geoffrey2> qin, No LSB modules are available.
[06:07] <nightdemon666> capinjack, have you created that custom xorg.config file from a working distro on that hardware yet?
[06:08] <qin> Geoffrey2: ment: lsb_release -a, sorry
[06:08] <Geoffrey2> Ubuntu 12.10, quantal
[06:09] <iderik> Could anyone recommend a terminal with unicode and 256 colors?
[06:09] <Geoffrey2> four lines in total, I just didn't feel like typing all the repetitions....
[06:10] <qin> iderik: urxvt
[06:10] <rusty0101> If you're running an lts version, you want to check to see if notifications of new ubuntu versions is ste for long-term support versions. If it is, 12.04 is the current lts release. If you switch it to For Any new version, it will let you know of the next version up from the version you are running. Stepping through release after release till you get to the current release of 13.04
[06:11] <qin> Geoffrey2: only setting in software sources comes to my head...
[06:11] <leptone> how do i format a pen drive from terminal
[06:12] <Ari-Yang> try googling that, leptone?
[06:12] <nightdemon666> i think the parted program does that no?
[06:12] <Geoffrey2> ok, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade produces 0 upgraded, 0 newly  installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[06:12] <kameron> exit
[06:13] <nightdemon666> Geoffrey2, hate to say, but a clean install would be the simple solution, though not a solution to the ultimate problem... the os "should" prompt to upgrade to new release when one becomes available in the repos.
[06:14] <Ari-Yang> Geoffrey2, is it important for you to get a notification of a new version? are you going to upgrade to it?
[06:15] <Geoffrey2> yes, a clean install is probably the way to go...was just hoping to avoid the extra steps of downloading and burning the ISO to disc.....
[06:16] <Ari-Yang> Geoffrey2, why not use a usb?
[06:16] <nightdemon666> this is why i stick to the lts releases. i have in the past settles with a non-lts release due to stability issues (i know, a non-lts release being stable!?)
[06:18] <nightdemon666> but thats just because im lazy and i dont want to 1) deal with the headache of the upgrade process not working as it is suppose to, and 2) having to back up everything and loading a flash drive with the latest release :/
[06:18] <rusty0101> you can specify what level of updates you get notified about in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades. If you have it set for LTS, you won't be notified of 12.10 or 13.04 unless you change it. You also can't install from an LTS release into a non-LTS release if you have it set for LTS only. (exception, clean install.)
[06:18] <Ari-Yang> nightdemon666, I've been on 12.10 since mid 2012 and it's been stable...
[06:19] <qin> Geoffrey2: http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/how-to-upgrade-xubuntu-1210-to-1304.html
[06:19] <nightdemon666>  Ari-Yang, i will give ubuntu that credit. in MOST cases ubuntu is stable no matter what release (hardware depending)... thats why i went from Fedora to ubuntu -- or Debian in general
[06:19] <qin> Geoffrey2: reading....
[06:19] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[06:20] <qin> Geoffrey2: miss...
[06:21] <shortstraw8> I need to add a libreoffice plugin to chrome, how do I do this? I get a prompt to run libreoffice then it says no plugin found, is this a libre office problem or Java problem? everything else that requires Java runs fine so I am assuming it is libreoffice.
[06:22] <leptone> Ari-Yang, i am right now. having trouble...
[06:22] <leptone> can you point me to a good article?
[06:23] <Ari-Yang> leptone: http://daksh21ubuntu.blogspot.com/2011/12/how-to-format-pen-drive-from-terminal.html maybe that?
[06:24] <Ari-Yang> leptone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdvm7_3-Yco a video...
[06:25] <Geoffrey2> qin, curiously, the manual do-upgrade option listed in the link you provided generates a response that no upgrade is available
[06:25] <WeThePeople> hi
[06:26] <Geoffrey2> and for some odd reason, I keep getting a message that a server can't be found at ubuntu.org OR xubuntu.org, when i try to browse to those sites
[06:26] <qin> Geoffrey2: yeah, that was total miss, what other dm you have? unity gnome, did you upgraded from 12.04?
[06:26] <aeon-ltd> Geoffrey2: ubuntu.org isn't ubuntu the linux os
[06:27] <aeon-ltd> xubuntu.org is however
[06:27] <Ari-Yang> @ Geoffrey2 http://www.ubuntu.com/
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> Geoffrey2: there maybe be some lines in yout hosts file that's trying to direct it to a sevre that doesn't exist
[06:28] <Geoffrey2> oops, mistype, but ubuntu.com isn't coming up either
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> Geoffrey2: what does work?
[06:29] <Geoffrey2> yep, I had 12.04, upgraded to 12.10, and at some point decided to migrate from Gnome/Unity to xfce
[06:30] <Geoffrey2> ok, what's the path to the hosts file?
[06:30] <shape> Can anyone please confirm if this command cp -r dir1 dir2 dir3 will copy dir1 & dir2 BOTH into dir3? Is that the right way to copy directories with cp
[06:31] <netlar> I am confused, is Unity part of gnome or is it just Ubuntu
[06:32] <qin> Geoffrey2: so you using ubuntu with xfce? cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[06:33] <shape> netlar: Unity is a shell interface for Gnome 3
[06:33] <prince_jammys> shape: yep.
[06:34] <shape> prince_jammys: was that for my question or agreeing to what I wrote to netlar
[06:34] <prince_jammys> cp -r
[06:34] <netlar> shape: and developed by gnome?
[06:34] <shape> netlar: It's developed by Cannonical
[06:34] <qin> shape: yeah, test it: cd; mkdir test1 test2 test3; cp test1 test2 test3; tree test3
[06:34] <shape> netlar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%29
[06:34] <Geoffrey2> ok, something is messed up networking wise...where do I find the hosts file?
[06:35] <shape> prince_jammys: qin: awesome! thanks!
[06:35] <prince_jammys> shape: from ''man cd'' Copy SOURCE to DEST, or multiple SOURCE(s) to DIRECTORY
[06:35] <prince_jammys> err, man cp
[06:35] <prince_jammys> anyway, so, yes.
[06:36] <shape> prince_jammys: Of course I did that, but I was afraid because it's dir1 dir2 dir3 and says SOURCE to DEST, I thought it would copy dir1 to dir2 and then dir2 to dir3. that was my confusion
[06:37] <prince_jammys> nah, your case is sources to directory, but I know what you mean.
[06:37] <shape> prince_jammys: basically what I wanted to make sure was the last path is where to copy, so i know how cp works :)
[06:40] <rusty0101> Geoffrey2: your hosts file is (almost always) /etc/hosts
[06:42] <chalet16> Hi, I added cryptsetup file to /etc, ran update-initramfs -u and update-grub but nothing has been updated on the initrd. (I decompress it and see no crypttab file inside the initrd.) What should I do?
[06:43] <lonnie> Anyone here know QML?
[06:43] <lonnie> If so, I'd like to ask you a few questions.
[06:47] <Neozonz> how do I run a script without seeing the output
[06:47] <Neozonz> I tried screen and it just sits there after running
[06:47] <Neozonz> anyway I can have a script run in background?
[06:47] <kunji> Geoffrey2: dist-upgrade isn't even supposed to upgrade to the next release is it?  I thought it should be sudo do-release upgrade, no?
[06:48] <lonnie> What version are you running?
[06:48] <kunji> Neozonz: stufftorunscript&   The & should background the task.
[06:49] <Neozonz> kunji, thx
[06:50] <Neozonz> kunji, tried that, and it looked like it worked but then I'm seeing output on my screen now :(
[06:50] <pZombie_reg> when installing something from source, does it equal installing the standard and the devel package ?
[06:51] <pZombie_reg> like if i install openssl from source, do i need to apt-get the developer package still ?
[06:53] <netlar> So Ubuntu is in charge of Unity?
[06:54] <auronandace> netlar: canonical is yes
[06:59] <kunji> Neozonz: Umm, output would still go to the screen if you're writing to standard out, but it should be backgrounded and you should be able to do other things in that terminal.  Commenting out where you write output is probably the easiest way.  Or you could find out to write to standard error for that script language, or to write out to a file.  Alternatively you could pipe the output to null.
[07:00] <kunji> Neozonz: I don't remember exactly, maybe something like: script > /dev/null &
[07:00] <rusty0101> Neozonz: to redirect output so you don't see it, use something like 'scriptname & > /dev/null' to also redirect any error messages use something like 'scriptname > /dev/null 2>&1'
[07:01] <MonkeyDust> netlar  ubuntu and unity are product names, canonical is the enterprise behind the products
[07:01] <Gaulois94> Hello
[07:02] <Gaulois94> In my portable computer HP pavilion g6, who use windows 8 and UEFI bios I can't create a live USB ubuntu 12.04
[07:02] <Neozonz> thanks!
[07:02] <netlar> MonkeyDust: Ok, thanks, canonical is a non profit company?
[07:02] <Gaulois94> I'm searching from bootx64.efi but it doesn't here !!!
[07:03] <Gaulois94> where can I download this efi file?
[07:03] <MonkeyDust> netlar  no, a regular company
[07:03] <Gaulois94> And where should be ?
[07:03] <netlar> MonkeyDust: huh ok, so they try to make money out of this stuff
[07:03] <kunji> Gaulois94: Should be part of the 64 bit version of Ubuntu, no?
[07:03] <Khaleel78> Hi, when I attempt to use the change directory command to any directory it gives me other than "~" it gives me the ">" sign
[07:04] <MonkeyDust> netlar  try to, but not with a lot of success
[07:04] <Gaulois94> Arf...
[07:04] <netlar> MonkeyDust: I kinda thought they were this altruistic company
[07:04] <Gaulois94> kunji : Yes, I DL a 32 bits ubuntu
[07:05] <Gaulois94> and not a 64 bits x) (For me, a 64 bits computer run finely a 32 bits OS)
[07:05] <kunji> Gaulois94: I don't think the 32 bit one works with UEFI, so that could be why
[07:05] <kunji> !UEFI
[07:06] <Gaulois94> I even see that, but I download the wrong iso x)
[07:06] <Phase4> kunji, it won't, 32bit uefi was only implemented by macs
[07:06] <Phase4> Gaulois94, it should boot, but not under UEFI
[07:06] <kunji> Phase4: Ah, yeah, that's what I thought
[07:06] <Gaulois94> (I just want ubuntu for gparted software only : gparted live doesn't works I don't know why)
[07:07] <kunji> There's also a liveCD that only has gparted I think
[07:07] <Gaulois94> Yes but it doesn't work
[07:07] <Phase4> i think that's what he's got
[07:07] <Gaulois94> (problem with module and modprobe...)
[07:07] <Gaulois94> Then I use ubuntu
[07:08] <Gaulois94> Is very a big crap this system x)
[07:09] <Gaulois94> And sorry for this last question but in the Ubuntu documentation I see that I need to delete the boot frag of my first FAT32 partition for create a second
[07:09] <Gaulois94> But if I do that, I can't start to windows 8, no ? (I need to create a second live USB)
[07:10] <Gaulois94> (sorry for my bad english, I'm french)
[07:10] <Phase4> Gaulois94, you shouldnt need to, grub-efi might be able to chainload a 32bit system from uefi, i'm not sure, x86 is absurdly complicated
[07:12] <Gaulois94> Phase4 : I can't boot from a usb device directly
[07:12] <Gaulois94> I need to find the efi file and boot on in
[07:12] <Gaulois94> it*
[07:12] <Phase4> Gaulois94, do you know how to use the grub shell?
[07:13] <Gaulois94> I can't start to it !!!
[07:13] <Gaulois94> I can't start to gparted with ubuntu
[07:13] <Gaulois94> (with gparted live I can but when I start from it, I have a problem with modeprobe on the linux initialisation)
[07:13] <Gaulois94> grub* (not gparted)
[07:14] <Phase4> Gaulois94, no, i meen you can get grub as an efi app, shove it on a usb, name it /EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi and it should work
[07:14] <Gaulois94> Ah yes I can, but I didn't find him
[07:14] <kunji> Gaulois94: This bug report may shed some light on the current 32 bit situation: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1025555
[07:14] <Gaulois94> I find source code but not efi directly
[07:15] <jayja213> hello
[07:15] <jayja213> is there any way to turn a bunch of pdf tables into a manageable file readable by a c program through ubuntu?
[07:15] <Phase4> Gaulois94, any reason you can't use the 64bit image?
[07:16] <Gaulois94> I download the 64 bit image
[07:16] <Gaulois94> (I have the 32 bits and not the 64 bits)
[07:17] <Phase4> kunji, huh, so aparently intel is making 32bit uefi machines
[07:17] <Phase4> i'm not sure Why, it's not like 64bit takes up that much silicon
[07:18] <kunji> Phase4: Hmm, with new processors?  Maybe they're just trying to offload old chips still?
[07:18] <Phase4> kunji, the bug report mentions 32bit atoms, i thought they were all 64bit now
[07:18] <jayja213> how is the channel so dead with over 1000 people in it...
[07:19] <Phase4> jayja213, of the 1.5k people here, about 1.495k are afk
[07:19] <jayja213> lol :(
[07:19] <Gaulois94> 1 day completly for trying to install archlinux on my computeur x)
[07:20] <Gaulois94> It generally take 3 hours
[07:20] <Gaulois94> takes*
[07:20] <jayja213> 4 hours trying to get data from a pdf into a database :P
[07:20] <Gaulois94> not bad :p
[07:20] <Phase4> jayja213, pdf's are awkward to work with, and i don't think tables are stored as tables
[07:21] <kunji> Phase4: Ah, they're not the laptop/HTPC processors, they're SoCs (phones & tablets), so maybe because of power reasons?
[07:22] <Gaulois94> Or for not cracking this devices ;)
[07:22] <jayja213> phase4 yeah they are not stored as tables, i was hoping for some sort of text recognition software so i could just take a bunch of pictures of it or something
[07:22] <jayja213> idk there is a lot of data and i don't really want to enter it all by hand
[07:23] <kunji> There's some OCR software that could extract text, the names of them are escaping me right now though -_-
[07:23] <Phase4> jayja213, there are a few bits of ocr software
[07:23] <Phase4> yeah, gnome has one or two, googles got an interesting one floating around (only accepts tga's though, pain to convert)
[07:23] <Gaulois94> euh... it's normal the iso name is finish by "amd64.iso" ? Why amd ? I'm on intel
[07:24] <Phase4> Gaulois94, amd was the one who designed the 64bit extensions
[07:24] <kunji> amd created the instruction set
[07:24] <Gaulois94> Ah ok :)
[07:24] <kunji> intel made their own after, but it flopped
[07:24] <jayja213> do you think thats my best option?
[07:24] <jayja213> this is one of the sites
[07:24] <jayja213> http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/alt_formats/hpfb-dgpsa/pdf/nutrition/dri_tables-eng.pdf
[07:24] <Phase4> ia64? that was the.... i forget, but it was a completely different architecture and a flawed idea
[07:24] <FloodBot1> jayja213: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:25] <kunji> Phase4: Yeah, that one I think
[07:25] <Phase4> i think what they wanted was explicit out-of-order execution
[07:25] <Phase4> but couldnt figure out how to compile for that
[07:28] <rusty0101> jayja213: if the PDFs are single page documents, you can use the GIMP to convert them to images and then use one or another of the OCR packages or services to try to convert it to text.
[07:28] <Phase4> jayja213, you can just copy paste the text out of that
[07:28] <Phase4> they were nice enough to store text instead of bitmaps, hate when they do that
[07:29] <jayja213> yeah they were nice until page 6....
[07:29] <jayja213> i need to put page 6 -12 into a structure
[07:30] <Phase4> it's still text, but it'll come out scrambled
[07:30] <jayja213> very scrambled, different organization for each page and no nice and easy pattern....
[07:30] <shape> Hi, what happens if I have an AMD x64 and install ubunut i386 32 bit on it?
[07:31] <Phase4> shape, works normally
[07:31] <jayja213> :(
[07:31] <Phase4> shape, x64 is better though
[07:31] <shape> Phase4: any drawbacks for 64? I remember having problems with compatibility for drivers, etc.
[07:31] <rusty0101> shape: amd64 processors support the i386 instruction set.
[07:32] <Phase4> shape, if you have problems with drivers on 64bit, you'll have them on 32bit too, x64 is better though for a variety of technical reasons
[07:32] <shape> Phase4: such as?
[07:33] <Phase4> shape, large pages, more registers, greater address space (makes memory mapping large files possible), seamless support for more than 4GB of ram
[07:33] <lessless> why after sudo apt-get remove couchdb  all its files are still on the disk?
[07:34] <shape> Phase4: So if I have an intel 64 bit I should install the amd64. iso instead regardless if it says amd?
[07:34] <Phase4> shape, it's faster, but not by enough to matter unless you do a lot of 3d or video work
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> lessless, purge removes what can be.
[07:34] <Phase4> shape, they're compatible
[07:35] <BadElvis> I have this USB sound card, and initially, it showed up in the Sound config of Ubuntu. I tried to configure it as output and chose some options, now it doesn't show up anymore in the sound config. Are there some config files, that I can delete  so that I can connect the USB device as if it was the first time?
[07:35] <BadElvis> lessless: use 'sudo apt-get purge couchdb'
[07:36] <lessless> wilee-nilee, ok, it looks like that package itself is poorly written
[07:36] <rusty0101> the chipset that the ia64 instruction set was for (iirc) is the Itanium processor. Primarily used in database servers.
[07:36] <shape> Phase4: I understand but what I'm saying, since you say it's better to install 64-bit, if my intel e2200 has: Instruction Set 	64-bit to get ubuntu on 64 bit I'd have to use the amd64 iso regardless if it says amd, correct?
[07:36] <lessless> it doesn't help: whereis couchdb: /usr/bin/couchdb /etc/couchdb /usr/lib/couchdb /usr/bin/X11/couchdb /usr/share/couchdb /usr/share/man/man1/couchdb.1.gz
[07:37] <Phase4> shape, yeah, amd64 is a technical name, it works on both intel and amd
[07:37] <rusty0101> if you're running an i3, i5 or i7 processor, or one of the previous ones, you can use the amd64 sets.
[07:37] <Phase4> lessless, apt-get purge? it won't remove configuration/storage unless you ask it too
[07:37] <Phase4> Kabaka, ohai
[07:39] <shape> Phase4: So for sure not drawbacks? I clearly remember 3 years ago or so that some program or driver wasn't working because it was designed for 32 bit or something like that
[07:39] <lessless> Phase4, what about /usr/lib/couchdb?
[07:40] <Phase4> lessless, not sure, you can remove them manually if you wish
[07:40] <Phase4> shape, there used to be problems with 32bit applications on 64bit distros, that's since been fixed in debian and ubuntu
[07:41] <Phase4> it's a little temperamental though, you might have to run dpkg add-architecture i386 once to tell it you actually want that
[07:41] <Phase4> after that though it's damned near flawless
[07:41] <lessless> Phase, yeah but this is a bit obscure...  what is apt-get purge/remove than is for? :)
[07:42] <lessless> and how do I completely remove this package
[07:42] <shape> lessless what's obscure about purge?
[07:42] <Phase4> lessless, if you've run apt-get remove couchdb, then couchdb is gone, whats left is files specific to your machine
[07:42] <jayja213> got it =D
[07:43] <jayja213> thanks bye
[07:43] <shape> Phase4: I see, I guess I am living in old times :)
[07:43] <Gaulois94> shape : you can run 32 bits librarys, with not 32 bits drivers ?
[07:43] <Phase4> hmm, can't find purge on the man page, i'm rarely in ubuntu though (arch user)
[07:43] <Phase4> Gaulois94, drivers are more complex
[07:43] <Phase4> to run that is
[07:43] <lessless> ah, ok
[07:44] <Phase4> you don't have the nice wall that is user space/kernel space
[07:44] <Gaulois94> Phase4 : You pass from arch to ubuntu ? Generaly is not the opposite ?
[07:44] <Phase4> Gaulois94, no, i started with arch and stayed :P
[07:44] <shape> lessless: you can also do sudo apt-get purge program* the * will help remove anything related to that name
[07:44] <Techie-Micheal> I just moved to 13.04 on a new server. /var/log/auth.log isn't being written to. Any idea what's going on there?
[07:44] <Phase4> Gaulois94, it's on some of my familys machines though
[07:45] <Gaulois94> Ah ok :)
[07:46] <Gaulois94> And you congratulate to starte directly with arch ?
[07:46] <shape> I also just installed 13.04 on my laptop and Thunar is really slow/sometimes stops a while when copying to NTFS, any ideas?
[07:46] <Gaulois94> Personally I couldn't
[07:46] <hot2trot> what is the file I have to edit to include another window manger in the list when I startup?  I've already installed the winow manager
[07:46] <Phase4> Gaulois94, i wen't straight from windows xp to archlinux, it's the "learning to fly by jumping off a cliff" method
[07:47] <Gaulois94> is not a jump : is a fly :D
[07:47] <Gaulois94> it's*
[07:47] <shape> hot2trot: it should be automatic, but it's a lightdm issue
[07:47] <Tex_Nick> Phase4:  lol ;-)
[07:48] <Gaulois94> It is already weird for a window user to use ubuntu, then arch... x)
[07:48] <hot2trot> shape: I've done this a few times on different machines when I install, and I just need to edit some text file to get it there... it's never been automatic for me
[07:49] <shape> hot2trot: really? I installed awesome, openbox, xmbc and after restart lightdm has them in the dropdown list. Odd, I'd have to google for the lightdm config file, and I'm too busy at the moment, sorry cant help much further
[07:49] <hot2trot> shape: well thank you, fyi it ratpoison that it never puts it in the list automatically :(
[07:50] <Gaulois94> Well, for the fat32 who have a boot flag, can I keep it and create a second partition ?
[07:50] <Gaulois94> My problem is that I need to create, after ubuntu a second live USB from windows 8
[07:50] <shape> hot2trot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[07:51] <Phase4> Gaulois94, the fat32 partition will be the EFI system partition, remove it and windows won't work
[07:51] <Gaulois94> And if I change the flag of my first partition, I think that I can't start to windows
[07:51] <hot2trot> shape: thank you
[07:51] <shape> hot2trot: more specifically https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Change_the_Default_Session
[07:51] <Gaulois94> Phase4 : It's what  I'm thinking, but I have to create an other partition for installing arch, no ?
[07:52] <Gaulois94> And if I delete the boot flag of the fat32 partition, I can't (I think) start on windows for create (finnaly) my arch live usb
[07:53] <Phase4> Gaulois94, whats the make and model of the machine you're trying to install ubuntu on?
[07:53] <Gaulois94> I don't want to install ubuntu : I juste want to use gparted from ubuntu
[07:53] <Phase4> Ah
[07:53] <Gaulois94> (because cfdisk doesn't work with UEFI partition and I don't want to use parted x) )
[07:53] <ner0x> Anyone know a tool that would help me do a blog? Specifically blogger+?
[07:54] <Techie-Micheal> Hrm. auth.log had the wrong ownership. Is this from the upgrade to 13.04 from 12.10?
[07:54] <Phase4> ner0x, firefox?
[07:54] <ner0x> Phase4: Is that the best tool to do the blogs?
[07:54] <Gaulois94> Then from gparted I have to create my linux partition, and a fat32 partition. My question is : can I keep my first fat32 partition and set the flag of my second to "boot" ?
[07:55] <Gaulois94> (sorry again for my bad english)
[07:55] <Phase4> Gaulois94, well i'm still not quite clear on the issue, you've tried both the 64bit and 32bit images?
[07:55] <Gaulois94> I Download the 64bit image now (ubuntu) et use the 64 bits arch image
[07:55] <Phase4> ner0x, it's a web browser, this is probably the wrong channel for discussion about blogs
[07:56] <Gaulois94> It's just tht I need to start to windows again for create my seconde live usb
[07:56] <Gaulois94> that*
[07:56] <ner0x> Phase4: Was asking for ubuntu packages that were connected to blogger+.
[07:56] <Jordan_U> Gaulois94: Could you please summarise what your end goal is, and what problem you're currently having trying to achieve it?
[07:57] <Gaulois94> Jordan_U,  I want to install archlinux and create my linux partitions from gparted who is on ubuntu live cd
[07:57] <MonkeyDust> Gaulois94  you can download and burn gparted as standalone, without ubuntu http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[07:57] <Gaulois94> I saw that I need to create a second fat32 partition on my computer
[07:57] <Gaulois94> MonkeyDust, I tried but it doesn't work
[07:58] <Gaulois94> (problem with modeprobe)
[07:58] <Gaulois94> this partition need to have a boot flag and, I saw that I have to delete the boot flag of my first fat32 partition
[07:58] <Jordan_U> Gaulois94: Why do you think that you need a second fat32 partition?
[07:59] <Gaulois94> It's writing on the doc x)
[07:59] <Gaulois94> (ubuntu and arch)
[07:59] <Gaulois94> Then I don't have to create this second partition ?
[07:59] <budotz> how do i run a script that can run mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1?
[07:59] <Jordan_U> Guest22109: Please link to said documentation.
[08:00] <A1Recon> Is there a way to get the constant net speed graph in ubuntu? I used the program Networx in Win 7.
[08:00] <budotz> should sdb1 be mounted first or not really?
[08:00] <MonkeyDust> budotz  ask in #bash
[08:00] <MonkeyDust> budotz  are you familiar with writhing bash scripts?
[08:00] <MonkeyDust> writing*
[08:00] <Jordan_U> budotz: What are you actually trying to accomplish? mkfs can be a dangerous command, and frankly you don't seem to understand it well enough yet to be using it in scripts.
[08:01] <budotz> MonkeyDust, those are just commands that i need to be executed in 1 script
[08:01] <Gaulois94> whait please, I'm french and have the french doc x)
[08:02] <budotz> Jordan_U, i know what mkfs does .and your entitled to whatever you want to think.
[08:02] <cjae> ok so I installed vbox on 13.04 but there is no vboxusers created
[08:02] <MonkeyDust> budotz  don't take advice as an insult, please
[08:02] <budotz> i didnt say anything offensive
[08:02] <cjae> as in the group does not exist
[08:02] <cjae> not the user is not in it
[08:03] <Gaulois94> budotz, mkfs format partition, isn't it ?
[08:04] <Gaulois94> You don't have (normally in arch is the case) to mount the partition
[08:05] <Tex_Nick> A1Recon:  "System Monitor" provides a "Network History" Graph
[08:05] <Jordan_U> budotz: What is your end goal?
[08:07] <budotz> what im doing is sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1...but it kepts saying its mounted when its not ...it worked with mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1..thanks for the help..just being lazy
[08:09] <prince_jammys> "it keeps saying" .. who? umount?
[08:12] <MotherLover> I accidentally deleted my grub partition... I was like "what's this tiny thing?  get back in there with the rest of the raw data"
[08:12] <MotherLover> and now it doesn't werk.  repair utility doesn't work either.  :-('
[08:13] <Gaulois94> MotherLover, you can normally, with a ubuntu live CD for example (or a grub live cd also) reinstall grub
[08:14] <MotherLover> i have a liveUSB of the iso
[08:14] <MotherLover> i didn't see it.  did i just miss it?
[08:14] <MonkeyDust> !grub | MotherLover
[08:14] <MotherLover> oh maybe it's in expert install or something.  all i saw was "install w/windows"  "reformat and install"  and then i forgot the third
[08:15] <MotherLover> ubottu thanks a million
[08:15] <MotherLover> copying links
[08:15] <MotherLover> erm MonkeyDust I mean
[08:15] <Quest> how to find a file ?
[08:15] <Quest> how to find a file ? find / -n filename?
[08:16] <Jordan_U> Quest: "locate pattern" is much faster (though not neccessarily up to date).
[08:16] <MonkeyDust> Quest  or 'locate blah'
[08:16] <MonkeyDust> Jordan_U  was faster :)
[08:17] <Quest> Jordan_U, ,  MonkeyDust   i dont see any /var/log/fail2ban.log . the  iptables and service  fail2ban status says that fail2ban is running fine.. any clue?
[08:17] <Jordan_U> budotz: Could you pastebin the exact error message from mkfs?
[08:19] <kblin> hi folks
[08:20] <prince_jammys> Quest: see fail2ban's config in /etc for to know where it's logging to. Maybe it logs to daemon.log.
[08:20] <kblin> I've got trouble printing to my network print server from my new 13.04 install. printer works just fine from other boxes on the network, and I'm using the same ipp settings
[08:20] <kblin> how do I debug this?
[08:23] <Cubensis> happy motherfuckers day everyone
[08:23] <Tex_Nick> !language | Cubensis
[08:25] <Cubensis> Alright Tex_Nick, give me a mirror and I watch it
[08:25] <Quest> prince_jammys,  # Values:  STDOUT STDERR SYSLOG file  Default:  /var/log/fail2ban.log in     .conf
[08:25] <kblin> Cubensis: inappropriate and immature. great way to join a channel
[08:25] <Cubensis> do you wear a bicycle helmet when you come on IRC?
[08:25] <Cubensis> dont swear!! safety sally soccer mom, little timmy might see
[08:25] <prince_jammys> Quest: and there is no such file?
[08:26] <MonkeyDust> Cubensis  please try to behave
[08:26] <Quest> prince_jammys,  correct
[08:26] <kblin> Myrtti: thanks
[08:27] <prince_jammys> Quest: hm, can you find the fail2ban process in the process tree?
[08:28] <prince_jammys> Quest: you can try ''lsof -c fail2ban'' if fail2ban is the name of the running prog.
[08:29] <prince_jammys> this will list the files that process has open -- maybe you find the log there.
[08:30] <prince_jammys> Quest: you can also try ''man fail2ban'' and go to the bottom -- see if the manual has a 'FILES' section.
[08:30] <ByronZED> Rippln Mobile Apps Social Gamification - http://www.rippln.by/get-started/
[08:31] <Quest> prince_jammys,  http://pastebin.com/SggVCEtC
[08:31] <Fab4Us> hello!
[08:31] <Quest> prince_jammys,  ]# man fail2ban
[08:31] <Quest> No manual entry for fail2ban
[08:32] <Fab4Us> i'm a new user
[08:32] <prince_jammys> Quest: well, crap ...
[08:32] <prince_jammys> Quest: that exhausts both my ideas :)
[08:32] <prince_jammys> !fail2ban
[08:32] <Fab4Us> so what do we do there
[08:32] <MonkeyDust> prince_jammys  use /msg ubottu to test factoids
[08:33] <prince_jammys> okeydoke.
[08:33] <Fab4Us> someone hear me!
[08:34] <prince_jammys> Quest: check out /var/log/daemon.log -- I'm betting it's ending up there.
[08:34] <prince_jammys> Quest: maybe it writes to there via a socket.
[08:35] <MonkeyDust> Fab4Us  this is the support channel, how can we help you
[08:35] <kunji> Fab4Us: We hear you, but this isn't for general chatting, just ask your question directly if you have one.  #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting.
[08:36] <Quest> prince_jammys,  iam installing it to centos now.
[08:36] <Quest> prince_jammys,  well no daemon.log there
[08:36] <qin> !ot | Fab4Us
[08:37] <Quest> prince_jammys,  no daemon.log in ubuntu as well
[08:39] <Quest> prince_jammys,  logpath  = /var/log/secure for sshd. but nothings there in centos
[08:40] <Quest> prince_jammys,  logpath  = /var/log/secure for sshd. but nothings there in centos. in jail.conf
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Seems DynDNS is now trying to shutdown us old timers with free accounts by making us login to their site every 30 days.  ;(  How annoying.
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: no-ip does that but I think its every 60 days :-)
[08:47] <kblin> Dr_Willis: yeah, lost my account that way at some point by missing the deadline by a day
[08:47] <MonkeyDust> never got either to 'work' as i want
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> well my router updates the stuff. has for ages.. but aparently thats not good enough these days for them
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: yeah i use noip2 on my ubuntu server to do the same
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> more On topic.. anyone else noticeing the 'spring folders' feature of nautilus in 13.04 is a little too sensetive..?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: never heard of spring folders. let me search
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> drag/drop hold over a folder.. it opens
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> I can barely drag/drop... it alwyas springs open the folder befor i can drop it
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> Dr_Willis  i have this other issue in nautilus: any filemanager icon outside the 'native' opens Totem, not Nautilus
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> MonkeyDust:  seen that when the 'folder' file association gets messed up.. like if you had right clicked on a folder and selected 'play in totem'
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: sounds cool, i use guake for moving files etc these days :-)
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> Dr_Willis  that's how it bahaves, even when just plugging my external HD
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  it would be cool if it wasent so annoying about opening when i dont want it..
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: oh the whole 'folders open in totem' deal. What fun that was
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> because then i have to hit parent/up to get back to where i was working  constantly
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: is there a timeout setting in nautilus?
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: sensitivity and so forth.
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  i cant find one.. yet..
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> all the google hits i find are from  like 2008 for people wanting the feature. ;)
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> i seem to recall ages ago - apple had the feature and was sueing others that had the same feature. :) even tho it had been around befor apple used it
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: try searching in dconf-editor
[08:55] <gustav___> Why this article? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/05/half-life-2-steam-linux It's NOT available on Steam.
[08:56] <DJones> gustav___: Its in Beta, so available for people willing to test, but not generally available for sale yet
[08:57] <gustav___> Ah.
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> HL2 one of the few games i actually played untill the end.. ;)
[08:57] <DJones> gustav___: At least, that was the explanation I saw yesterday
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> after giving up on it for ages.. (got stuck on some level
[08:58] <gustav___> DJones: I didn't read the article on OMGUbuntu thorougly.
[08:58] <gustav___> HL are great games. Or were.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> HL2(beta) is showing up here on steam for me.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> I allready own it however. ;P
[08:59] <gustav___> Dr_Willis: How do I enable Beta?
[08:59]  * ActionParsnip remebers when Counterstrike was a 120Mb mod for HalfLife and free
[08:59] <gustav___> ActionParsnip: Those were the days.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> gustav___:  no idea. I just ran steam, and looked.. I got  several "halflife whatever (beta)" items in my library
[09:00] <gustav___> All games seem to copy CS  now.
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> gustav___: the early betas were great :). "He has sleeves and we don't! Kill him!!!"
[09:00] <gustav___> ActionParsnip: OMG. I didn't play so early.
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> seems i have a left 4 dead 2 Beta also...
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> gustav___: yeah I got in early. After 1.1 i'd lost interest.
[09:01] <gustav___> ActionParsnip: I think that's the version I played.
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> I rember back when everyone was fighting to get "Americas Armys" or whatever it was called going on linux. ;)
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> Firearms mod was good too, lots of realistic stuff. Urban Terror is a great open source counterstrike :-)
[09:02] <narab> ][\8\/0*=\=/*\\7]=
[09:02] <narab> 89
[09:02] <narab> 7
[09:02] <nightmare365> hi guys is there a way to stop the scanning for btrfs during boot ..it is slowing my boot time significantly
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> nightmare365: do you use btrfs?
[09:03] <nightmare365> no
[09:03] <gustav___> Urban Terror was kind of nice. Reminded me of another old 3D game. That's in the repos. I got banned from UrT, though.
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> nightmare365:  so where do you see this 'scanning for btrfs' at ?
[09:04] <nightmare365> during boottime it appears as the first thing just after grub .. it Dr_Willis
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> might want to check askubuntu.com - ive never seen  anything about that on my systems.. or seen it mentioned in here actually.
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> sounds like it may be somthing initrd is doing.
[09:05] <nightmare365> is there a way to know how i can fix that
[09:06] <Quest> prince_jammys, nevermind case solved
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> i would check  askubuntu.com - it might be an allready known about/fix posted issue....
[09:07] <gustav___> nightmare365: Check for strange things in /etc/default/grub.
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> nightmarr365: you could check the init levels and check for btrfs, you could also uninstall btrfs apps.
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> bbl. work  time for me.
[09:08] <nightmare365> ok brb
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> nightmare365: it sems a race situation can be the cause but I am unsure
[09:08] <nightmare365> ok is btrfs tools needed
[09:09] <nightmare365> ment is it a critical system app
[09:09] <Tex_Nick> i set my grub timeout to 0, to bypass grub on startup ... i thought holding the shift key down when booting would display grub ... doesn't seem to work on this box (13.04)
[09:10] <Ben66> Tex_Nick: has to be left shift, and you may have to keep pressing it, not holding
[09:12] <Tex_Nick> Ben66 : ok i've been using the left key ... will try bumping it a few times instead of holding it down ... thanks for the input
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> nightmare365: try uninstalling it, if it only uninstalls itself or other btrfs aps then fine, if it wants to disembowel your OS, just say no
[09:13] <gustav___> Ah, the magics of the package system, sometimes.
[09:14] <nightmare365> ok .. let me reboot and see if it solves it
[09:18] <ran_> i need help about slow boot in xubuntu 13.04
[09:18] <hacktus0> Hello, Where is buffer in ubuntu ?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> tex_nick: can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub please
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> hactus0: buffer for what?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> ran_: run: dmesg | less
[09:19] <nightmare365> ActionParsnip: that solved it .. thanks a mil'
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> ran_: use cursors to scroll, look for large gaps in the time on the left
[09:19] <hacktus0> buffer internet , ActionParsnip
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> nightmare365: sweet
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: do you mean web cache, temporary internat files?
[09:20] <hacktus0> Yes,ActionParsnip
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> ran_: that will give the cause
[09:21] <ran_> at 20 seconds from boot ipv6 is loaded, and at 80 seconds from boot there is somthing about NVRM gpu
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: try using clearer less technical terms, its much clearer
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: which browser are you using?
[09:21] <ran_> so there is a delay of about 40 seconds
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> ran_: do you use ipv6?
[09:22] <ran_> no
[09:22] <hacktus0> Chrome ,ActionParsnip
[09:22] <hacktus0> Google chrome
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> ran_: disable it with the boot option: ipv6.disable=1
[09:23] <Quest> prince_jammys,   logtarget = /var/log/fail2ban.log       instead of  logtarget = syslog
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: chrome web cache is in ~/.cache/google-chrome
[09:23] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip:  sorry got distracted ... http://pastebin.com/MgW0rk0x
[09:23] <ran_> in grub?
[09:23] <jl345> floodb
[09:25] <Excryption> Hello, I have a hybrid Intel HD4000 and AMD Radeon 7730M laptop. When it comes to boot and reboot it's pretty slow. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5657411/ - this is my Xorg log, any help please?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> tex_nick: uncomment the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT line
[09:26] <Excryption> I'm using a proprietary driver, would it be better to switch to the Xorg open source driver for my AMD?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> ran_: yes, that is where boot options are applied
[09:26] <ran_> is there a known problems about boot in xubuntu 13.04? in 12.10 there was not any problems with boot
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: i have that folder in tempfs, makes web browsing fastrer
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> ran_: not seeing any issues here. did you upgradr to raring or did you clean install?
[09:28] <ran_> sometimes the shutdown is also delayed.
[09:28] <hacktus0> OK, thank ActionParsnip
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> ran_: you do know raring is EOL before Quantal, just so you are aware
[09:28] <ran_> i have a dual boot system with win 7.
[09:28] <hacktus0> ActionParsnip : I want to encrypt
[09:29] <kvothetech> Excryption: that depends on your uses and which card etc.
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: encrypt what?
[09:30] <hacktus0> ActionParsnip : the folder in MD5 or DES.
[09:30] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip:  ohhh man i missed that in the documentation ... that might help a LOT ;-) let me reboot this box ... as always thanks ... you've givenme some cool tips in the past
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: to achieve what, exactly?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> tex_nick: be sure to run: sudo update-grub
[09:31] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip:  yes sir will do ;-)
[09:31] <kblin> hacktus0: you're aware that DES is pretty easy to crack these days and MD5 is not an encryption but a one-way hash?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> kblin: hence me asking :-)
[09:32] <Excryption> I'm currently using Intel HD
[09:32] <kblin> ActionParsnip: arguably your data is pretty safe if you just store the MD5 sums
[09:32] <kblin> ActionParsnip: unfortunately it's also pretty safe from you
[09:32] <MatthiasShalom> Mir & KWin = http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/05/mir-in-kubuntu/#comments
[09:33] <MatthiasShalom> Oh, this is it: blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/05/mir-in-kubuntu
[09:33] <hacktus0> but MD5 are good because our password is encrypted with MD5 in /etc/shadow/ ,kblin
[09:35] <kblin> hacktus0: actually I wouldn't trust plain MD5 to hash passwords anymore. but you were talking about folders, not passwords
[09:37] <hacktus0> Yes, but I want to encrypt the temporary file because if somebody have wireshark he don't read when I am on world wide web ,kblin
[09:37] <A1Recon> Accessing the PC through ES File Explorer in Android with the correct Username and Password shows "Error. Server cannot be found".
[09:37] <kvothetech> hacktus0: the temp dir has NOTHING to do with wireshark...
[09:38] <kblin> hacktus0: encrypting your temporary internet files won't help against a network sniffer
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: what are you trying to actually achieve? Your user is the only person with access to the folser if you remove the ALL acces.
[09:38] <kvothetech> hacktus0: wireshark watches packets...not your temp dir..
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: encrypting it wont keep wireshark from doing anything. Do you even know what wireshark does?
[09:39] <gustav___> Wait. TF2 is running on HL2.
[09:39] <gustav___> I don't like this: "[142206.816541] NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus."
[09:39] <kvothetech> gustav___: yes all source engine games are on hl2 engine..
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> gustav___: call 999
[09:40] <gustav___> o_O
[09:41] <A1Recon> Accessing the PC through ES File Explorer in Android with the correct Username and Password shows "Error. Server cannot be found". Any ideas why??
[09:41] <hacktus0> But where are the packets...
[09:41] <kvothetech> hacktus0: Your ethernet card ? the switch?
[09:41] <kvothetech> then the router
[09:41] <gustav___> ActionParsnip: It's 112.
[09:41] <kvothetech> then your modem...yeah ...not in your temp dir...
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> gustav___: i'd say falling off a bys was an emergency, so 999 is used
[09:42] <gustav___> ActionParsnip: True.
[09:42] <kblin> ActionParsnip: 0118 999 881 999 119 7253 is the new number for that
[09:42] <kvothetech> kblin: it crowd?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: the packets are on the network, before they hit your system storage, so it will do nothing to encrypt the folder
[09:43] <hacktus0> how can I encrypt the packet internet ?
[09:43] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: I get the feeling hacktus0 is just making stuff up as he goes along..just the impression i get.
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> kblin: i wish it was, that would be awesome. id be laughing too hard to dial "hello. i've had a tumble"
[09:43] <kvothetech> hacktus0: ssl tls etc
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: lots of sites use https now
[09:44] <kvothetech> tls is just ssl with the beginning unencrypted until you login btw
[09:45] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Accessing the PC through ES File Explorer in Android with the correct Username and Password shows "Error. Server cannot be found". Any ideas why??
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: i think you need to research some. You dont seem too sure what things do or what you are even trying to protect yourself from
[09:45] <kblin> kvothetech: :) sure
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: what service are you connecting to on the server side?
[09:46] <kvothetech> A1Recon: uhm what's es file explorer using to connect do you have a server runnig for it to connect to
[09:46] <kvothetech> kblin: :) yeah good show
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: tried the IP instead of name as well?
[09:48] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: kvothetech: ES File Explorer is just an application on Android, it lets you see the files on the phone/network/cloud! You don't need to run a server on the PC, just the usual file sharing will do. I am using IP address.
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: so it connects to samba?
[09:49] <A1Recon> kvothetech: do you have an Anrdoid??
[09:49] <llutz> A1Recon: sure you need a kind of server to access using es-fileex, smb/sftp/ftp
[09:49] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip:  yes
[09:49] <kvothetech> A1Recon: nfs then? yes i do i use andftp and scp mode...
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: then samba is the service you are connecting to
[09:49] <A1Recon> llutz: smb
[09:49] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: samba
[09:50] <kvothetech> A1Recon: andftp or juicessh are what i use because i can't stand es too limited
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: you need the samba server service to run to connrct to samba. so "you dont need to run a server" is incorrect
[09:51] <tero> hi guys. How can I found out on what date my ubuntu was installed?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: do you use ssh on the same box?
[09:51] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: got it!! BTW this works fine on one phone, but the other one is giving me hell
[09:52] <Yinseng> after my Ubuntu server has been inactive for a while, the console becomes a black screen and no amount of mouse movement brings it back to life. Is there some sort of key shortcut I'm not aware of to get it to come out of this black screen?
[09:52] <Yinseng> I can putty into it just fine so I know the server isn't locked up
[09:53] <bekks> Yinseng: Press a key on the keyboard.
[09:53] <Yinseng> I did
[09:53] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: No
[09:53] <Yinseng> oh wait. It just suddenly came up. after like 5 minutes. Jesus christ.
[09:53] <bekks> Yinseng: Maybe you have some heavy load on that box, currently?
[09:53] <Yinseng> nope
[09:53] <Yinseng> it's not under any load atm
[09:54] <Yinseng> holy crap the desktop environment is going slow...
[09:54] <bekks> Yinseng: Then check whats causing that load.
[09:55] <kvothetech> Yinseng: dont run a gui on your server would be the easy answer..most have shitty gpu's if any at all
[09:55] <Yinseng> There is no load. VMware's performance tab shows virtually nothing.
[09:55] <Yinseng> kvothetech: It was working just fine yesterday
[09:55] <Yinseng> it is frozen on checking my password
[09:55] <ran_> i need help about slow boot in xubuntu 13.04. this id from kern.log: May 12 12:47:29 ran-pc kernel: [   25.565036] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[09:55] <ran_> May 12 12:48:23 ran-pc kernel: [   79.330194] NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00: GPU-b03a1015-0ea1-3bcd-767e-11e25bf45b35
[09:56] <Yinseng> okay it's FINALLY resumed and working fine. Is this some sort of sleep mode? How do I turn it off? Or ideally make it not take forever?
[09:56] <ran_> why there is a 40 seconds delay?
[09:56] <Yinseng> false alarm, mouse is moving fine but the elements are still taking more than a minute to respond. c.c
[09:56] <Yinseng> no idea what is going on
[09:57] <kblin> Yinseng: and your server is a virtual machine?
[09:57] <kvothetech> Yinseng: x set s 0 0
[09:57] <kvothetech> that'll turn off the screensaver bit at least
[09:57] <Yinseng> well it's out of the screensaver
[09:58] <Yinseng> it's back on the desktop but it's being unresponsive other than the mouse.
[09:58] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Where can I learn about FTP, SSH and the other good stuff??
[09:59] <Yinseng> I'm not sure what's causing this massive massive slowdown after a good length of inactivity
[09:59] <Yinseng> I'm using Unity 2D if that's of any help
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: just use it
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: astro file manager can connect to samba
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: there is also andsamba
[10:01] <kblin> there's also a samba server package for android, but I think that requires a jailbroken phone, not sure, though, never used it
[10:01] <Yinseng> Yeah. I managed to log out (it took like 10 minutes total) and I went back into the Unity 2D Shell. NOW it's working fine. Did not reboot the machine or reduce any load at all
[10:01] <Yinseng> After it enters sleep mode or the screensaver or whatever, when it comes out of it is just entirely unresponsive and I don't know why
[10:02] <bekks> Yinseng: Then check the load.
[10:02] <Braden`> Hello
[10:02] <Yinseng> the load is fine. I checked it. There was no load.
[10:02] <kvothetech> Braden`: hi
[10:03] <Braden`> I just upgraded from 12.10 to 13, and now when I reboot I get "Cannot open display"
[10:03] <kvothetech> Braden`: got the module loaded for your gpu?
[10:03] <bekks> Yinseng: Did you just check the "load" or did you check which programs used CPU/MEM/SWAP?
[10:03] <kvothetech> or built in/kms
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> braden`: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[10:03] <Yinseng> bekks: I used VMware's performance monitor
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> yiseng: which screensaver package are you using?
[10:04] <Yinseng> It's just a base Ubuntu 12.04 LTS install with the unity desktop environment and some updates.
[10:04] <bekks> Yinseng: That does not tell you a single bit on whats happening IN the guest.
[10:05] <bekks> Yinseng: So check the load and the cpu/mem/swap usage inside the guest.
[10:05] <Yinseng> well I can't really do that now because now it's working fine
[10:06] <bekks> Yinseng: And you cant do it now because of what?
[10:06] <Yinseng> ...because it's working fine? The problem is gone because I logged out and logged back in
[10:06] <bekks> Yinseng: You could still find traces on what happened. But its your choice.
[10:06] <Yinseng> Can you be more specific about what you want me to do
[10:07] <Yinseng> for instance if I was using windows you could tell me to check Event Viewer
[10:07] <bekks> Yinseng: I wanted you to take a look at top, ps aux and dmesg.
[10:07] <Yinseng> would you prefer I do this from a terminal in the desktop environment, or does it not matter
[10:07] <bekks> Yinseng: And you omitted the information that you are running a vm. :)
[10:08] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Oh yeah, the problem was solved. I went over to #android. The thing was one of the android phone is 2.3 so I have to load CifsManager "to load the appropriate kernel modules"
[10:08] <bekks> Yinseng: Terminal commands are to be done in a terminal.
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: find out which screensaver package you are using as well
[10:08] <Yinseng> (4:55:20 AM) Yinseng: There is no load. VMware's performance tab shows virtually nothing.
[10:08] <Yinseng> (5:03:57 AM) Yinseng: bekks: I used VMware's performance monitor
[10:08] <bekks> Yinseng: And I told you that thats useless.
[10:08] <Yinseng> (5:08:04 AM) bekks: Yinseng: And you omitted the information that you are running a vm. :)
[10:08] <SomeUser> Hi all. I cant get the Networkmanager applet started. It flashes up in the tray icon bar and than dissapears. I get this message if i start it in a terminal: http://dpaste.com/1144609/
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: i see, ive always use andsamva but in JellyBean Astro accesses it seamlessly
[10:08] <Braden`> ActionParsnip:  Nay, just the standard video drivers.  They were working before I upgraded though
[10:09] <Yinseng> ActionParsnip: How do I do that
[10:09] <bekks> Yinseng: You could have said "I am using a vm"at the beginning.
[10:09] <Yinseng> I kinda assumed mentioning it was vmware from the beginning would be good enough
[10:09] <Braden`> kvothetech:  I have no idea how to check that
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: if you install openssh-server on the server, you can use andftp and also stream securely over the web
[10:10] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Thanks!!
[10:10] <kvothetech> Braden`: lspci and look for the ones for your gpu ..also when you updated the kernel did you recompile the modules with it
[10:10] <Yinseng> I don't see a control for it in the desktop environment so far...
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> braden`: what video chip do you use?
[10:11] <Yinseng> There is Brightness and Lock
[10:11] <Yinseng> but that doesn't tell me much
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> yiseng: what is the output of: dpkg -l | grep saver
[10:11] <Yinseng> http://i.imgur.com/hRditmo.png
[10:11] <Yinseng> 1s
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: use pastebin to host the output
[10:12] <Yinseng> http://i.imgur.com/rg2S9g9.png
[10:12] <Braden`> kvothetech:  I suspect the package manager did that for me
[10:12] <Braden`> ActionParsnip:  Its Virtualbox
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: for text, why use an image?
[10:12] <Yinseng> because it takes 3 seconds with hyperdesktop
[10:12] <Yinseng> would you prefer the text?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> braden`: i'd ask in #vbox it may be a known issue
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: just curious
[10:13] <kvothetech> Braden`: then reinstall open-vm-tools or whatever the vbox equivalent is
[10:13] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Do you know what is CSSH?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: uninstall that package and install xscreensaver
[10:13] <Yinseng> ok, will you walk me through? I'm still kinda unfamiliar with apt-get
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: use it everyday at work
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: you can use software centre
[10:14] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: May I PM you??
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: sure
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: or read: man apt-get
[10:16] <Yinseng> I've read it, my medication just makes it hard for me to remember things
[10:16] <Yinseng> 1s
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: software centre makes it easier
[10:17] <Yinseng> yeah, I'm looking through it and I'm using the search filter but I'm not getting anything when I search for gnome or screen or lock
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: close the app and run: sudo apt-get --purge renove gnome-screensaver; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get install xscreensaver
[10:19] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: Yinseng the renove should be remove
[10:19] <arsdragonfly> remove
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> doh
[10:19] <kvothetech> (in case he copy pastes it :)
[10:20] <Yinseng> Ok, done.
[10:21] <Yinseng> Logged back in. how do I know it's working
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: then configure xscreensaver to not load a screensaver after a time, basically disable it
[10:22] <Yinseng> ah here we go, there's a new 'screensaver' option when I search..
[10:23] <Quest> ports can be forwarded by routers/switches and NATing can be done. how to do that if the thats a linux server instead?
[10:23] <bekks> Quest: Basically by using iptables.
[10:23] <Yinseng> ok, screensaver disabled
[10:24] <Quest> bekks,  hmm. its easy? i use firestarter to controll iptables
[10:24] <bekks> Quest: No, you have to know what you are doing there. :)
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: should be ok then
[10:24] <hacktus0> my ubuntu 13.04 don't shutdown. When I shutdown my PC then I must shutdown manualy. can you help me????
[10:25] <hacktus0> I think it 's my kernel
[10:26] <pagnol2> does anyone run ubuntu 13 and use the iwlwifi driver?  I'm trying to find out which version of iwlwifi is included in ubuntu 13
[10:26] <hacktus0> my ubuntu 13.04 don't shutdown. When I shutdown my PC then I must shutdown manualy. can you help me????
[10:26] <kvothetech> hacktus0: shutdown -h now
[10:26] <kvothetech> it'll kill everything then halt it...
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> hacktus0: if you run: sudo shutdown -h now
[10:26] <Quest> bekks,  where to learn iptables
[10:26] <bekks> !iptables
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> kvothetech: thought it needed sudo..
[10:27] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: dunno i don't have sudo installed
[10:27] <Yinseng> You guys wanna help me with one more thing? I've been googling on guides on how to do this but I just keep finding guides that don't seem to apply to my installation. I haven't been using sudo, I've been using root through putty. When I try to sudo as my user that I run my server on, it prompts me for a password I was never prompted to set up. How do I set up this password?
[10:28] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[10:28] <hacktus0> OK I test :kvothetech : ActionParsnip
[10:28] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I use oidentd on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server. I want the oidentd to work as a proxy of this client.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> kvothetech: its default installed in ubuntu and how you do admin tasks
[10:28] <Emmanuel_Chanel> But it looks that it doesn't work, by reconnecting to an IRC server.
[10:28] <kvothetech> Yinseng: as root passwd alone to set a root pw passwd <user> for other users
[10:28] <pagnol2> is there some way to find out the versions of drivers shipped with ubuntu?
[10:28] <Emmanuel_Chanel> But how can I check if oidentd works without reconnections of IRC servers?
[10:29] <Yinseng> my root password does not work
[10:29] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: 1.  i'm on gentoo 2.  My ubuntu installs are from debootstrap.
[10:29] <bekks> Yinseng: There is no root pw in Ubuntu.
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: the password you set when you first installed. if you were an idiot and set a blank password, you can run: passwd name
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> kvothetech: sudo package is a dep of a lot of packages, so it will be installed
[10:30] <Yinseng> doesn't that just set the user password and not the sudo password?
[10:30] <bekks> Yinseng: There is no sudo password either. sudo asks for the user password.
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: your login password is your sudo password
[10:30] <Jordan_U> !sudo | Yinseng
[10:30] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: what 'depends' on sudo being there...
[10:31] <Yinseng> ..that's weird then. because my user password wasn't working either. Let me try again.
[10:31] <Yinseng> it says my user isn't in the sudoers file
[10:31] <kvothetech> Yinseng: visudo
[10:31] <kvothetech> and add it.
[10:32] <Yinseng> permission denied. Guess I have to log in as roto.
[10:32] <Yinseng> root
[10:32] <bekks> kvothetech: How to run that without sudo privileges? :)
[10:32] <bekks> Yinseng: You cant log in as root. :P
[10:32] <bekks> !root | Yinseng
[10:32] <Yinseng> I'm logged in as root right now.
[10:32] <Yinseng> so.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> kvothetech: ubuntu-minimal for one
[10:33] <Yinseng> http://i.imgur.com/tXpzTwS.png see for yourself? vOv
[10:34] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: linux-image,ssh,udev with debootstrap..minimal install...no sudo
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> kvothetech: update-manager, gksu, ubuntu-desktop (not so critical metapackage)
[10:34] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: ok..none of the above are dependencies for a working server...
[10:34] <pm_> is there in free tool which converts pdf to excel
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> kvothetech: even ubuntu-minimal?
[10:35] <jude0> anyone know how to add sit or a gre tunnels to a bridge?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> pm_: http://www.pdftoexcelonline.com
[10:35] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: seeing as i have several servers without it yes i'm quite sure nothing really depends on sudo that you'd want.
[10:36] <Yinseng> uh, hm. What is this weird space that vi is using that's longer than a normal space and shorter than a tab space.
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> kvothetech: i see, cool. thanks :-)
[10:37] <pm_> thanks actionParsnip but it is online for secure document it is not feasible
[10:37] <Yinseng> it is precisely 4 spaces long
[10:37] <Yinseng> to the tab space's.. 8?
[10:38] <Yinseng> oh, nevermind
[10:38] <kvothetech> Yinseng: depends on the program tab will be 4 spaces or to the next 'tab spot' on your screen which depends on your resolution
[10:41] <Yinseng> Why is sudo considered more secure than a root user anyway? It seems like doing a root user means if someone gets into your normal user account there's only so much damage they can cause without the ability to sudo.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> pm_: https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/ilug-tvm/hf_hg_bm2r4
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> kvothetech: dso, how do you install ubuntu without ubuntu-minimal from a blank drive? Im curious, please
[10:42] <juular> i m just curios that anyone use ubuntu to rip DVD's ?
[10:42] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: debootstrap off a usb stick
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> !dvdrip
[10:43] <kvothetech> Yinseng: it's not unless you are using limited ability sudo users etc
[10:43] <Yinseng> so if ubuntu isn't supposed to have a root user, how am I logged into it?
[10:44] <Ben66> !root
[10:44] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: debootstrap..and btw gui's dont need sudo either..i use xmonad mostly but have gnome/kde/etc all not using sudo)
[10:44] <kvothetech> Yinseng: it still has one it just annoys people who are too lazy to do there own security that you use it
[10:44] <kblin> juular: I've gotten good results with the 'handbrake' program :)
[10:44] <juular> ty kblin
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> kvothetech: so, which user is running the X process
[10:44] <Yinseng> that's just how it was set up by default by my provider
[10:45] <kvothetech> Yinseng: sudo uses the root user to run commands..or whoever has uid 0
[10:45] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: my user...
[10:45] <Yinseng> mmk
[10:45] <Jordan_U> Yinseng: sudo allows fine grained control of what commands a user is allowed to run as root. As Ubuntu uses it, it's more of a way to foster better practices (not running commands as root unless they need to be). The human aspect of security is very important, so that shouldn't be disregarded as meaningless.
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> kvothetech: sweet
[10:45] <Yinseng> makes sense
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: it does have a root user, its login in the default install is disabled
[10:46] <Jordan_U> Yinseng: kvothetech: It's definitely possible to create a root password and never use sudo, but it is not recommended and such a configuration is not supported here.
[10:48] <newbie|3> hey
[10:48] <Yinseng> maybe I'll reverse the change then and make an admin user if I can figure out how it was done.
[10:48] <Yinseng> oh wait
[10:48] <Yinseng> this page seems to tell you how
[10:49] <kvothetech> Yinseng: just comment out the pw for root in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow then add your user to visudo
[10:49] <Yinseng> ok thx
[10:49] <Quest> can anyone sumarise what is LTS . will that have no kernal updates?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> yinseng: if you add the user to the sudo group, it will be able to use sudo and you can disable root once it tests as ok
[10:49] <mdfe> Can you recommend a mud/mush client for ubuntu? I don't like the ones in the software centre.
[10:49] <Yinseng> Quest: Long Term Support. It means it'll be supported for a while.
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> Quest  LTS = long term support
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> quest: it will but they will come less frequently
[10:50] <kvothetech> Quest: long term as everyone said and yes it gets kernel updates ...you can always update it as you need to like anything else if you want a diff one.
[10:51] <ubuntu> HI
[10:51] <kvothetech> ubuntu: hi
[10:51] <kvothetech> how is the nick ubuntu not registered lol
[10:51] <bekks> kvothetech: Its the user of the livecd? :P
[10:52] <kvothetech> bekks: i meant on nickserv
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> kvothetech: try register it
[10:53] <Yinseng> i am now become ubuntu, destroyer of time
[10:53] <kvothetech> ActionParsnip: lol no thanks i like my nick i just think it's odd that it's not or hasn't been
[10:55] <Yinseng> main reason I converted from centos to ubuntu for my server is because is a lot easier to find guides on ubuntu on the googles.
[10:55] <Yinseng> mt
[10:56] <bazhang> !ot | Yinseng
[10:56] <Yinseng> I said mt
[10:56] <bazhang> Yinseng, take the chit chat elsewhere
[10:56] <Yinseng> ... i said mt
[10:57] <bazhang> kvothetech, certain projects reserver nicks, such as the name of their distro, making those nicks unregisterable, (fedora, ubuntu etc)
[10:58] <Yinseng> mt means mis-tell
[10:59] <kvothetech> bazhang: ah lol makes sense
[11:07] <gustav___> Ugh. I'm trying to get bumblebee to run a nvidia-smi command before the actual game or program. How can I do that?
[11:08] <gustav___> It has to be in the same module instance or the setting will be reverted.
[11:08] <gustav___> nvidia module instance.
[11:09] <gustav___> Does optirun hook in any scripts?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> gustav___: you can make your own script.
[11:10] <gustav___> Myeah.
[11:11] <gustav___> nvidia-smi has to be run suid, though.
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> more reasons to avoid optimus.....
[11:13] <gustav___> Not sure what alternative I have. :)
[11:13] <gustav___> 13.04 doesn't work.
[11:20] <kmo> hi, I've got some issue with disk space. I have installed 13.04 and created 20gb partition for / and 20gb partition for home in which I have symbolic links to directories like Documents, Downloads etc. on second (NTFS) partition mounted as /windows. I use only small part of this home partition, but Ubuntu shows me that I have used all the available space. I guess it has something to do with symbolic links, b
[11:20] <kmo> ut how come? These are just plain text link to resources on NTFS partition. Baobab shows that whole home is used, but no files/dirs that use this space :O
[11:26] <ardoRic> if you wanna know what's taking up your diskspace, go to your home directory and use the du command. something like du --max-depth=1 is nice for checking directory by directory
[11:27] <gordonjcp> ardoRic: du -hd1
[11:27] <ardoRic> baobab should help you with that too, you can navigate the file system tree and check what's taking up space
[11:27] <kmo> yes baobab should
[11:27] <gordonjcp> but you don't need to do that anyway, because it's either going to be .cache, .thumbnails or .Trash ;-)
[11:28] <kmo> I checked and baobab shows that over 17.7GB is taken but lists only like 3 or 4GB when I add it up
[11:29] <bekks> Maybe baobab follows symlinks. I'd rely on df.
[11:29] <gordonjcp> kmo: look at the output of du -hd1
[11:30] <hacktus0> when i want shutdown my ubuntu 13.04 then it write : kernel      [failled]. And I must shutdown manualy (I push button for shutdown during 5 sec)
[11:30] <kmo> wtf
[11:30] <gordonjcp> kmo: then look at the output of du -xhd1
[11:30] <kmo> -rw-------  1 kmo  kmo  14454578292 maj 12 13:29 .xsession-errors
[11:30] <gordonjcp> kmo: wat
[11:30] <gordonjcp> kmo: it's probably safe to delete that
[11:31] <hacktus0> when i want shutdown my ubuntu 13.04 then it write : kernel      [failled]. And I must shutdown manualy (I push button for shutdown during 5 sec)
[11:31] <kmo> gordonjcp, I know
[11:31] <kmo> but anyway
[11:31] <kmo> how come? :D
[11:31] <hacktus0> can U help me ? please
[11:31] <gordonjcp> well, what do the errors say?
[11:32] <hacktus0> when i want shutdown my ubuntu 13.04 then it write : kernel      [failled]. And I must shutdown manualy (I push button for shutdown during 5 sec)
[11:32] <kmo> gordonjcp, it's some rhythmbox bug
[11:32] <hacktus0> can U help me ? please
[11:33] <kmo> have to investigate and eventually report it
[11:33] <gustav___> Why doesn't my visudo work? I've added the line gustav  ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/lib/nvidia-current/bin/nvidia-smi
[11:35] <A1Recon> how to install skype in 13.04 Raring
[11:36] <qin> !skype
[11:37] <marek_> hello
[11:37] <hacktus0> http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/ ,,A1Recon
[11:38] <marek_> ?
[11:40] <ste85> ciao!
[11:40] <ste85> !list
[11:42] <gordonjcp> what is it with Italians and !list ?
[11:44] <W4NGNULL> HI
[11:44] <W4NGNULL> IRON
[11:44] <W4NGNULL> HI MATRIX
[11:44] <W4NGNULL> AND EVERYONE IS HI
[11:45] <W4NGNULL> HI GANGER
[11:45] <W4NGNULL> HI IRON
[11:47] <MarcusMagnus> hello
[11:48] <fredploughs> ciao
[11:48] <fredploughs> !list
[11:48] <W4NGNULL> hi marcus
[11:49] <W4NGNULL> is any one talk to me
[11:49] <MarcusMagnus> ls
[11:49] <W4NGNULL> how are you
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:50] <W4NGNULL> hi blueskaj
[11:50] <Aaruni> I just installed fglrx-experimental-12 on Ubuntu 12.04. I was told that I need to run amdconfig/ati config, I can't remember which one, but both exists. So, which one do I run ?
[11:50] <W4NGNULL> hmmmm
[11:50] <llutz> !ot | W4NGNULL
[11:50] <BluesKaj> W4NGNULL, Hi
[11:50] <W4NGNULL> how are you
[11:51] <BluesKaj> ok W4NGNULL ,do you have a question
[11:51] <W4NGNULL> hmmmmmmm is this hacker chat room like die hard 4 movie
[11:51] <Aaruni> I am guessing i should run amdconfig, since fglrx-amdcccle-experimental-12 was also installed, and it has amd in the name...
[11:52] <bloony> I'm getting a grub rescue promt saying unknown filesystem.. I tried booting from the boot-repair-disk, but it didn't help.. heres the paste it created: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5657735/ any ideas?
[11:53] <W4NGNULL> do u any idea what is use of port forwarding
[11:54] <W4NGNULL> anyone else who knows about port forward
[11:54] <compdoc> W4NGNULL, it connects a service to your computer
[11:54] <W4NGNULL> so what is a advantage
[11:55] <compdoc> it opens a hole in your firewall to allow outsiders to connect
[11:56] <W4NGNULL> hmmm
[11:56] <W4NGNULL> u hacked victim wifi router yet
[11:56] <W4NGNULL> so i wanna create a port
[11:57] <W4NGNULL> in victim router
[11:57] <W4NGNULL> so what is beffit
[11:57] <bekks> We dont support hacking other people in here.
[11:57] <W4NGNULL> to me
[11:57] <gry1> W4NGNULL: hi.
[11:57] <gry1> W4NGNULL: what are you trying to do?
[11:57] <W4NGNULL> dude bekks
[11:57] <W4NGNULL> hacking is a computer science of exploitation
[11:58] <bekks> W4NGNULL: And we dont support it in here.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> W4NGNULL, no hacking advice is allowed here , go soemwhere else
[11:58] <gry1> W4NGNULL: try ##security channel then please.
[11:58] <W4NGNULL> okay
[11:59] <W4NGNULL> what  type of info get in this group
[11:59] <BluesKaj> this is ubuntu support
[11:59] <gry1> W4NGNULL: this is official support channel for Ubuntu Linux distribution. A variety of topics are supported, but an introduction to how to get started with exploits would be a tad bulky for here.
[12:00] <gry1> W4NGNULL: The other channel would be able to help you to learn networking, security, pen testing, and how to play with it at your boxes.
[12:01] <W4NGNULL> i love networking , programming, security, pentesting
[12:01] <compdoc> I heard you go blind if you play with it
[12:03] <josh__> Sorry, im quite a noob here guys but, how do I install the proper Java to play minecraft with?
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> !java
[12:04] <josh__> Oh, thanks!
[12:04] <thecodeischaos> JRE should be enough
[12:04] <gustav___> NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 8, Channel 00000015. optirun + TF2. Google isn't giving much. Tested what I found suggested.
[12:12] <cjae> holy bananas    http://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization?action=show&redirect=SSDoptimization
[12:16] <mdfe> cjae, i don't get that: why would you suspend to HDD? It would take *ages* to wake up
[12:17] <gordonjcp> mdfe: faster than booting from cold, allows the machine to power off completely
[12:17] <mdfe> gordonjcp, No, i mean why would an SSD machine suspend to HDD not to SSD?
[12:17] <cjae> right
[12:17] <gordonjcp> mdfe: <shrug>
[12:17] <gordonjcp> save on write cycles?
[12:18] <gordonjcp> for the extra second it'll take to resume, is it worth hammering your SSD?
[12:19] <mdfe> it seems to me that debian advice is to extend ssd life at the cost of speed: surely one gets an SSD for speed and the ability to be mobile (smaller machine) therefore one wants to wake up fast?
[12:19] <mdfe> and it seems counter productive to get an SSD and then slow it up
[12:21] <mdfe> it's not an extra second to wake up. it's a several gig load and time to spin up the disk if it's powered down
[12:22] <nakaori> can anyone point me to the solution? i have an mysql server on an ubuntu 12.10 proxmox virtual machine. after reboot the sql server isnt started automatically although i update-rc.d mysql defaults. any ideas?
[12:26] <cjae> mdfe: ya I thought it was a little overkill
[12:26] <cjae> informative thou
[12:27] <mdfe> nakaori, does it start manually?
[12:27] <nakaori> yes
[12:28] <mdfe> and update-rc.d mysql.server defaults doesnt work?
[12:28] <mdfe> that's mysql.server not mysql
[12:29] <nakaori> let me check that
[12:30] <dinmikkith> Hi folks, Is there anybody who is familiar with preseeding of ubuntu?
[12:30] <mdfe> dinmikkith, is that OEM install?
[12:31] <dinmikkith> It is not! It is the debian automation mechanism.
[12:32] <willybilly0101> hello all
[12:32] <willybilly0101> have a problem
[12:32] <willybilly0101> running ubuntu (xubuntu) on a Dell Mini 10
[12:32] <willybilly0101> and the flash videos are really jerky
[12:32] <willybilly0101> in Chromium, in Firefox better but still bad
[12:32] <willybilly0101> also HTML5 the same
[12:32] <willybilly0101> where should I start?
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> willybilly0101  enable or disable hardware accelleration
[12:33] <thecodeischaos> do you have a good video card?
[12:33] <thecodeischaos> i have a netbook and it cant play flash movies
[12:33] <willybilly0101> MonkeyDust: did it
[12:33] <thecodeischaos> well it stutters and freezes a lot
[12:33] <willybilly0101> same
[12:33] <thecodeischaos> it might be your hardware is incapable of playing it properly
[12:33] <mdfe> willybilly0101, google chrome has a proprietary improved flash player: perhaps try that as well
[12:34] <thecodeischaos> if your laptop/netbook is as crappy as mine
[12:34] <mdfe> I find non-googlechrome flash on linux a bit problematic as well
[12:34] <thecodeischaos> actually it is great for everything else. just cant play video
[12:34] <thecodeischaos> i have msi wind u135
[12:35] <thecodeischaos> cost me only £100
[12:35] <thecodeischaos> 1.6 Ghz!
[12:35] <mdfe> twice the speed of my cpu, but i get flash properly :)
[12:35] <thecodeischaos> 1024 x 600 resolution
[12:36] <thecodeischaos> ah
[12:36] <mdfe> i have no idea why GHz is used as ameasure of computer speed
[12:36] <dinmikkith> willybilly0101 I've installed chrome here on ubuntu Youtube works fine with it
[12:36] <thecodeischaos> yeh i use ubuntu+chrome+flash on my other pc fine
[12:36] <willybilly0101> youtube works okish
[12:36] <willybilly0101> problem is with other sites
[12:36] <willybilly0101> like coursera.org
[12:36] <willybilly0101> or vimeo
[12:36] <deivis> w
[12:37] <mdfe> vimeo is very high quality usually, and will give problems on older machines
[12:37] <willybilly0101> trying to find what video is, lspci shows something generic
[12:37] <W4NGNULL> what is a wheezy
[12:37] <W4NGNULL> any one
[12:37] <W4NGNULL> who knows
[12:37] <mdfe> W4NGNULL, debian release
[12:37] <willybilly0101> W4NGNULL: debian, google
[12:37] <nakaori> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/mysql.server: file does not exist
[12:37] <deivis> is anyone using ubuntu 13.04?
[12:38] <mdfe> I am on raring
[12:38] <willybilly0101> coming back to the netbook, it seems stupid to me to be so bad. everything else works well
[12:38] <mdfe> But i use thunarr file manager
[12:38] <nakaori> nakaori@vs2674:/etc/init.d$ ls |grep mysql
[12:38] <nakaori> -> mysql
[12:38] <dinmikkith> willybilly0101 what graphic card do you use
[12:39] <willybilly0101> do not know exactly, lspci grep vga shows something generic
[12:39] <willybilly0101> Intel Corp atom D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx
[12:40] <willybilly0101> trying to google the exact model
[12:40] <qin> ping willybilly0101
[12:40] <mdfe> willybilly0101, it's prbably a 945
[12:40] <dinmikkith> willybilly0101 Ask dell Support at the forums on dell.com
[12:41] <willybilly0101> ask the video card? :) I will be able to find it, second :)
[12:42] <mdfe> i doubt very much it's an an Intel 3000 or 4000, so it will be the 9x series below it
[12:42] <JSF> Morning
[12:42] <JSF> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a Dell PowerEdge 2850 but the installer doesn't seem to play nice with my PERC 4/i RAID controller
[12:43] <JSF> I already googled around and these Dell RAID controllers seem to be rebranded and _should_ work with the megaraid drivers included in the installer, but unfortunately they dont
[12:43] <bekks> mdfe: Having an Acer D270, with a N2600 CPU, I have an Intel 3600 GPU.
[12:44] <bekks> JSF: The Perc 4i are LSI controllers IIRC.
[12:44] <sealander> Hi everone :)
[12:44] <JSF> bekks Yeah rebranded LSI ones I also read somewhere
[12:45] <hallu> hi, my microphone is not working on gmail/skype; can anyone help me setting it up/checking if it's working at all? thanks
[12:45] <JSF> bekks: But the installer does't list ani LSI drivers, or aren't they called LSI?
[12:46] <kostkon> willybilly0101, if the cpu is Nxxx, then the card is intel 3150
[12:46] <JSF> bekks: I found the LSI cards use megaraid drivers, but as said they don't work, neither megaraid nor megaraid_sas
[12:46] <willybilly0101> yes
[12:46] <willybilly0101> just found it
[12:46] <willybilly0101> rebooted in windows :)
[12:46] <sealander> Which version do you recommend to install in my server. 12.04 or 13.04?
[12:47] <willybilly0101> debian :)
[12:47] <willybilly0101> joking
[12:47] <willybilly0101> now really, is this normal with this laptop? as I'm starting to think it is. also it seems to heat a bit more than windows$
[12:47] <kostkon> willybilly0101, it should be able to play 720p flash videos fine
[12:48] <willybilly0101> wll it does not
[12:48] <kostkon> willybilly0101, i have the same card. it plays youtube vids fine, 720p full screen
[12:48] <willybilly0101> should i update firmware/module?
[12:48] <kostkon> havent tried 1080p vids
[12:50] <kostkon> willybilly0101, mine is a hp mini 210, with N4xxx and 3150. i run full ubuntu on it, unity, compiz and all
[12:51] <JSF> Anybody knows how to use PERC 4/i RAID card using Ubuntu install? On the dell site all I can download regards drivers are .exe files or a Red Hat patch
[12:52] <hallu> hi, my microphone is not working on gmail/skype; can anyone help me setting it up/checking if it's working at all? thanks
[12:53] <bekks> JSF: Is it a 4/i or a 4e/Di?
[12:53] <dinmikkith> hallu: Try the settings page of skype and check the audio settings rith click the symbol in tray
[12:54] <hallu> dinmikkith: for Microphone, i only have the option "PulseAudio server (local)" (i'm on kubuntu/kde)
[12:54] <willybilly0101> 720p works bad
[12:54] <willybilly0101> youtube
[12:54] <willybilly0101> tryed it now
[12:54] <willybilly0101> chromium
[12:54] <FloodBot1> willybilly0101: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:55] <hallu> dinmikkith: i tried making a test call on skype, but couldn't hear myself
[12:55] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Is there someone good at oidentd?
[12:55] <JSF> bekks: Its a 4e/di to be exact
[12:56] <dinmikkith> hallu just a second
[12:57] <bekks> JSF: Did you go through http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/servers/f/906/p/19403643/19940209.aspx yet?
[12:57] <dinmikkith> hallu  Try this tutorial http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/PerfectSetup
[12:57] <cjae> I didnt know gnash was in a acceptable working state
[12:57] <cjae> !gnash
[12:57] <hallu> ty dinmikkith
[12:58] <dinmikkith> hallu or look for the pulse audio volume controle terminal version and pull up the microphone with it
[12:58] <SonikkuAmerica> cjae: Gnash is horrible.
[12:58] <SonikkuAmerica> cjae: You should still use flashplugin-installer
[12:58] <dinmikkith> hallu the second method is easier but i don't remember how the package is caaled
[12:59] <hallu> dinmikkith: pavucontrol? pavucontrol has bars which reacts to my voice so it looks like my microphone is working
[12:59] <Emmanuel_Chanel> My oidentd on Ubuntu router didn't reply when I connect to an IRC server on xchat on this client PC behind the router.
[12:59] <Emmanuel_Chanel> How can I help that?
[13:00] <dinmikkith>  hallu could you try to record something with your sound recorder and play it
[13:00] <nightmare365> cjae: don't use gnash it uses up too much cpu and ..its still beta ..
[13:00] <willybilly0101> Emmanuel_Chanel: firewall set correctly?
[13:00] <hallu> dinmikkith: which one?
[13:00] <cjae> SonikkuAmerica: nightmare365just checking progress lol
[13:00] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Yes, it looks.
[13:01] <dinmikkith> hallu the gnome sound recorder
[13:01] <Emmanuel_Chanel> When the bot on the router connect to an IRC server, the IRC server looks to get a reply.
[13:01] <dinmikkith> hallu just the gnome one to see if gnome and the puilse audio interface react on X
[13:01] <Emmanuel_Chanel> willybilly0101: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server's oidentd automatically works as a proxy of identd, right?
[13:02] <hallu> dinmikkith: i'm on kde :(
[13:02] <dinmikkith> hallu sorry I forgot. It has to be teh same basicly.
[13:02] <Emmanuel_Chanel> willybilly0101: So firewall configuration is correct.
[13:02] <dinmikkith> do you have a sound recorder installed?
[13:03] <dinmikkith> hallu krecord for example
[13:03] <hallu> dinmikkith: ye it looks like i have gnome-sound-record, but nothing happens when i press record
[13:04] <hallu> no such package: krecord
[13:05] <cjae> SonikkuAmerica: using in debian in a vm and is .....ok
[13:05] <dinmikkith> hallu is there any program that could take the sound of the microphone
[13:06] <hallu> dinmikkith: yes the test call on skype; it looks like it's working now, after i increased the sound on pavucontrol
[13:06] <Gaurab_Dhungana> how do i install ubuntu on my laptop?
[13:07] <hallu> dinmikkith: thanks for your help :)
[13:07] <dinmikkith> hallu your welcome
[13:07] <Gaurab_Dhungana> when i did one all the drive merged and i lost all my data?
[13:11] <debbie_> Hi. Wonder if anyone can help me. I tried to change the group ownership of a folder using dolphin to a user. However it changed it to root. How can I change this back to a user group? Thank you
[13:11] <willybilly0101> kdesu (or whatever graphical su you have): kdesu dolphin
[13:11] <willybilly0101> go to folder, change it back
[13:11] <Pwnguin_> Is there a keyboard shortcut for showing the desktop
[13:11] <Pwnguin_> ?
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> Pwnguin_  super-D
[13:13] <Pwnguin_> super-D? what do you mean super? Sorry I am new
[13:14] <Lasse-> Windows-key.
[13:14] <Pwnguin_> Okay
[13:14] <Pwnguin_> Thanks
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> glad i didnt have to write that word
[13:14] <sianhulo> Guys I need help with gparted. I cam currently botting from my android as I'll try to install ubuntu 13.04, the problem is I have 2 "free space", I want to merge them but I can't
[13:15] <Emmanuel_Chanel> $ ps aux|grep oidentd
[13:15] <Emmanuel_Chanel> oident   16634  0.0  0.0   2416   584 ?        Ss   21:58   0:00 /usr/sbin/oidentd -mf -u oident -g oident
[13:15] <Pwnguin_> So I hit the Windows-key and D? Doesn't work it seems
[13:15] <Emmanuel_Chanel> It's the output of oidentd ... where shall I fix that?
[13:15] <sianhulo> I already have the /home partition, This space will be used for /, the problem is that /home is between them both And I think that that is the problem
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo  and how large are the separate spaces?
[13:17] <Iszak> With mdadm do I create an instance for every partition?
[13:18] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust,  8.3gb and 3.5gb, my /always gets full sooner or later, and that's why I'll merge it with swap(I have 8gb of ram, so swap shouldn't be needed)
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo  use 8.3 for /
[13:19] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust, I no longer need swap and my /space is insuficient, I want to use all the space
[13:19] <sianhulo> there must be a way
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo  or !backup your /home and start re-partitoning
[13:19] <smjc> How do I "switch user" in a plain window manager desktop session to start another X temporarily?
[13:21] <Pwnguin_> I accidentally turned on a program that reads the stuff on my screen, how do I turn it off?
[13:21] <tajamul> should i upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to 13.o4 i am a home pc user
[13:21] <alaing> what is the file I need to edit to create custom commands for terminal?
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> tajamul  12.04 if you want long support, 13.04 if you want the latest stuff
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> alaing  I put some custom aliases in ~/.bashrc
[13:22] <alaing> MonkeyDust: thats the one the bash file, thanks
[13:23] <tajamul> will i get get features of 13.04 if i install update packages in 12.04
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> alaing  like: alias abc='run this set of commands; separated by semi-colons'
[13:24] <bekks> tajamul: No, you'll have to update to 13.04
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> tajamul  newer versions yes, some options have been removed from nautilus
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> tajamul  mis-read, bekks is correct
[13:25] <cerv0> hello everybody, i have manipulated my systems files and now my OS became unstable
[13:26] <cerv0> is there any way to solve this case ??
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> cerv0  start by explaining what you did, in one line
[13:26] <tajamul> can anyone here work to install ubuntu on samsung wave ii which originally is installed with bada os
[13:27] <tajamul> it will provide a nice platform for ubuntu as wave ii has got nice hardware but crap os
[13:28] <cerv0> MonkeyDust i have deleted the main user with another user that i have created and i was trying to give him the same permission as the main user
[13:29] <tajamul> all wave ii users want to replace the os of the mobile they want android ubuntu will be a good option and it will hightlight ubuntu as os for mobiles also
[13:29] <xubuntu__> Hi, i have a problem
[13:30] <tajamul> so are there no ubuntu developers who can do this
[13:31] <tajamul> is anybody reading my posts
[13:31] <tajamul> answer
[13:31] <niebo73> ciao
[13:31] <niebo73> !list
[13:32] <xubuntuliveusb> why when i open Disk in xubuntu live usb it says no media?
[13:33] <tajamul> can anybody develop ubuntu for samsung wave ii mobile
[13:33] <iDrofox> hello, whenver i select all in mp3 files in ubuntu 13.04 and press enter, rhythmbox opens but didn't play and crash ??
[13:34] <WXZ> what's the application which lets you search files by content?
[13:34] <tajamul> yaar someone please answer
[13:34] <gordonjcp> WXZ: grep?
[13:35] <WXZ> gordonjcp: no, it was in lucid.. it had "find in files" and stuff like that
[13:35] <zatan> hey how can I change in terminal typing color ?
[13:35] <WXZ> gordonjcp: it's a gui, not cml
[13:35] <mablae> hi!
[13:35] <xubuntuliveusb> gee thanks a lot for the help!
[13:36] <mablae> I have a dual boot setup win/ubuntu
[13:36] <mablae> Now I accidently removed the windows system and boot partiotion
[13:36] <mablae> How can I recover these partitions _
[13:36] <mablae> ?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> mablae, did you do , sudo update-grub  ?
[13:38] <mablae> Bluesky, no
[13:38] <mablae> BluesKaj: no
[13:39] <OerHeks> utc was on BluesKaj, that might be the issue, thnx
[13:39] <mablae> BluesKaj: I wanted to reinstall win cleanly
[13:39] <OerHeks> 2 timezones, grumble
[13:39] <mablae> So i removed the windows system (150mb) partition + install drive
[13:39] <BluesKaj> ok mablae so you reinstalled windows after installing ubuntu?
[13:40] <ed_> quit
[13:40] <mablae> But windows setup does not recreate this system partition, because there are other ext4 partitions on drive
[13:40] <mablae> BluesKaj: I did windows install , then linux, and now want to reinstall win, so zes
[13:41] <mablae> *yes
[13:41] <mablae> hmm I should set mz locale >)
[13:41] <mablae> Grub doesnt come up anymore...
[13:42] <BluesKaj> open a terminal do , sudo-update-grub
[13:42] <BluesKaj> mablae,
[13:42] <mablae> Did windows setup remove the mbr, too?
[13:42] <mablae> Think so...?
[13:43] <mablae> For know I am using Linux Live USB stick, FYI, BluesKaj
[13:43] <paolo_> Hello there
[13:43] <mablae> Hi paolo_
[13:44] <sianhulo> I need some help, after I tried to maximize a ubuntu partition grub said :"Can't have partition outside the disk!", this are the logs I could gather http://paste.ubuntu.com/5658046/
[13:45] <paolo_> I have no sound i need Intel HD Audio Driver for 12.04
[13:45] <mablae> BluesKaj: Other approach would be backup the linux partition and start all over again...
[13:45] <BluesKaj> mablae, ok , run sudo fdisk -l , find the windows partition . /dev/sdX (the assigned dev) , then, sudo grub-install /dev/sdX
[13:45] <mablae> it is deleted, BluesKaj
[13:46] <BluesKaj> how do you know?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> ther mbr I mean
[13:46] <amarcolino> Hi, I have added myself to the web group (www-data), when creating a directory the ownership goes to the user then the group (foobar:www..) is there a way to set it to the group then owner or what I would like is to keep it as the group but still permit me the user to add, delete and read files?
[13:46] <paolo_> i cannot hear sounds or music
[13:46] <kunji> Windows setup typically overwrites the mbr -_-, but it's not too bad to just write GRUB back on again
[13:46] <mablae> What is special about this system partition_ Can I recreate it with Partion Magic?
[13:47] <mablae> Okay, will try now
[13:47] <JSF> bekks: I disabled the RAID controller from the BIOS and just made a software RAID 0 for now, it's just for my sunday dev stuff anyway :)
[13:47] <paolo_> what is partition magic
[13:47] <mablae> I meant gparted
[13:47] <mablae> sry
[13:48] <kunji> They're different tools for the same purpose paolo_, partitioning
[13:48] <BluesKaj> mablae, it would help if you gave the whole situation instead of pieces at a time
[13:48] <paolo_> i install ubuntu studio alongside with windows 7 without wubi
[13:50] <mablae> BluesKaj: 2 main problems: No Bootloader (should be fixed right now)
[13:50] <mablae> second problem is windows setup need this f*** system partition...
[13:50] <paolo_> i used grub bootloader
[13:50] <mablae> but does not create it unless the drive has no other partitions
[13:51] <mablae> So: How create a system partition recognized by windows setup?
[13:51] <paolo_> what about easeus partition or hirens boot cd
[13:51] <kunji> mablae: Oh, that tiny little one it puts at the start of the drive?  I thought it would have created it while setting up windows.
[13:51] <paolo_> hirens boot cd is better
[13:51] <asdf2345> paolo_ u have to set the disk partitions before the system installation
[13:51] <mablae> kunji: Exactly, but only if the drive is empty
[13:52] <mablae> BluesKaj: From USB stick I wasn't able to install grub
[13:52] <kunji> mablae: It did it for me even with a nonempty drive, maybe it just needs to be the 1st partition on the drive or something, you might have more luck asking in #windows
[13:52] <mablae> It says /boot/grub is not readable at boot
[13:53] <kunji> mablae: That's not good, is it looking at the right disk?
[13:53] <Guest63887> facebook chat not working in epihany
[13:53] <kunji> !ask | Guest63887
[13:54] <mablae> kunji: Yes
[13:54] <kunji> !details | Guest 63887
[13:54] <mablae> But it is booted from intramfs
[13:54] <mablae> That causes it
[13:54] <walltender> Why is that write to the standard output only makes much sense when collectd is running in foreground- or non-daemon-mode?
[13:54] <mablae> I need to mount my linux partition and chroot into it first
[13:55] <paolo_> Anyone Played Micropolis
[13:55] <kunji> mablae: Hmm, probably
[13:55] <Guest63887> epihany says disconnected without reason
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> mablae: omgubuntu has a guide called: sticking it to grub
[13:55] <kunji> paolo_: ubuntu-offtopic may be a better place to ask that
[13:55] <mablae> ActionParsnip: thx
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> guest63887: is it in offline mode?
[13:56] <Guest63887> not its online
[13:56] <kunji> ActionParsnip: is that better than the normal grub docs?
[13:56] <debbie_> Hi. Wonder if anyone can help me. I tried to change the group ownership of a folder using dolphin to a user. However it changed it to root. Tried to change it back but won't let me! How can I change this back to a user group? Thank you
[13:56] <kunji> These ones that is !grub
[13:56] <mablae> ActionParsnip: chroot as I said... :)
[13:56] <kunji> !grub
[13:57] <debbie_> chroot?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> kunji: better is subjective. i just advise it as i know it works
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> debbie: yes, chroot
[13:57] <kunji> ActionParsnip: I suppose, it it equally "complete" is my quesiton?
[13:57] <Bragex9> I have upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04. As when I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04, the unity panel would not work on my system. Last time someone in here helped me fix it. Unity was disabled and something else was installed instead. This time I have the same problem. Unity not workng. I have installed gnome panel instead. But when starting the computer it starts with only the background picture. No panels or menus. When I try to load gnome-panel from t
[13:57] <BluesKaj> IME chrooting won't help if there's no mbr , mablae
[13:58] <mablae> BluesKaj: Look at this link: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> kunji: you will get a chroot and you can do as you wish
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> bragex: if you run a terminal and run: compiz --replace ,is it ok
[13:59] <mablae> Okay, first things first: How do I backup my linux partion fast and easy?
[13:59] <mzaza> Should the Java get installed automaitcally while installing ubuntu-restricted-extras package?
[14:00] <mablae> I dont want to use dd, it is to low level for me
[14:00] <mablae> Is TrueImage okay?
[14:00] <bekks> !backup | mablae
[14:00] <mzaza> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> mzaza: open java, yes. for an easy way to install Oracle java the webupd8 ppa has a convenient metapackage
[14:01] <mzaza> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> mablae: grsync :-)
[14:01] <mablae> bekks: nice!
[14:01] <amarcolino> Hi, I have added myself to the web group (www-data), when creating a directory the ownership goes to the user then the group (foobar:www..) is there a way to set it to the group then owner or what I would like is to keep it as the group but still permit me the user to add, delete and read files?
[14:01] <Bragex9> ActionParsnip: I tried compiz --replace and got this message: Fatal: couldn't open display
[14:02] <kunji> ActionParsnip: This one here?  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video   I haven't watched it yet, but it's the method here right?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> kunji: same sort of thing
[14:03] <WXZ> what happened to "search for files" in precise pangolin?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> bragex9: try: unity --replace
[14:04] <kunji> ActionParsnip: Cool, that's the one that always works for me.
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> kunji: more than one way to skin a cat
[14:05] <Bragex9> ActionParsnip: I uninstalled unity, and when trying unity --replace I got this message: Unity not installed
[14:05] <kunji> ActionParsnip: Just my favorite way XD
[14:05] <bloony> how can I know the filesystem of a drive that is not mounted?
[14:06] <bekks> bloony: sudo blkid -g; sudo blkid
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> bragex9: install xfce4 using apt-get then logoff and log in to the xfce session, you will at least get a usable session
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> bloony: sudo parted -l
[14:06] <bloony> bekks: it didn't show up there
[14:07] <kunji> bloony: sudo fdisk -l  works as well, thought not as well for gpt disks
[14:07] <Bragex9> ActionParsnip: ok. I will try
[14:07] <somsip> amarcolino: chmod g+s on the directory, if I understand what you want to do correctly
[14:07] <bloony> parted doesn't say anything for the filesystem, fdisk says linux
[14:08] <bloony> I'm getting the grub rescue prompt and trying to fix things..
[14:08] <tux30> hi
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> bloony: the right side says the partition type in the parted output
[14:08] <bekks> kunji: fdisk -l does not show filesystem types, but only partition ids.
[14:08] <tux30> how open terminal with ubuntu
[14:08] <bloony> ActionParsnip: yes, but its blank
[14:08] <bekks> kunji: Thats not sufficient to tell which filesystem was created in a partition.
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> bekks: it will but ext2,3 and 4 will show ad 'linux'
[14:09] <kunji> bekks: It shows what ActionParsnip just said.
[14:09] <bekks> ActionParsnip: It will not. You can create whatever filesystem in whatever partition type.
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> bekks: not in a default install ;-)
[14:10] <bloony> is there another way? As the file system is blank in the parted listing..
[14:10] <amarcolino> somsip: I've tried that but the issue is when www-data gets second ownership some directories and files can't be auto-updated since the web group is meant to have full access, so I am wondering how I can solve this and if it is possible other then manually changing ownership?
[14:11] <bloony> I'm getting a unkown filesystem and grub rescue prompt..
[14:11] <kunji> bloony: could be borked then, those aren't good signs T.T
[14:11] <bloony> :/
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> bloony: i'd boot to livecd and fsck the partition, also check the filesystem flag in fdisk is set
[14:12] <bloony> ActionParsnip: I've tried with fsck, but getting bad maguc number in super-block..
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> bloony: did you try a diffetent superblock number?
[14:13] <bloony> ActionParsnip: yes tried with -b 8193
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> bloony: there are many, as it is important
[14:13] <ZenoArrow> I'm experiencing a bizarre issue. openssh-server is installed, but I can't ssh to localhost (connection is refused). Any ideas on what I can try to diagnose this?
[14:13] <bloony> ActionParsnip: as in the example it printe out
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> zenoarrow: is the service running?
[14:14] <diamond_raven> after installing google earth 7.0 in ubuntu 12.04 x64 it wont start? only the splash screen comes up then nothing happens?
[14:14] <bloony> ActionParsnip: how do I know what superblock number to use?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> bloony: is the type set in fdisk?
[14:14] <kunji> ZenoArrow: If it is, then maybe check that you don't have something crazy in iptables.
[14:14] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: I've got Boot Up Manager installed, and that suggests it is running.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> diamond_raven: try running it from terminal
[14:15] <codepython7771> ssh-copy-id gives this http://bpaste.net/show/UUUBlSIqREBZQmuYhrqK/ — any ideas how to fix this?
[14:15] <bloony> ActionParsnip: where do I see that?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> zenoarrow: have you tried renaming ~/.ssh then connecting?
[14:15] <bloony> ActionParsnip: System says linux
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> bloony: in fdisk itself
[14:16] <zx> can a pass thru device be used on host too , when guest is offline ?
[14:16] <zx> like nvidia cards
[14:16] <bekks> zx: Depends on your virtualization solution.
[14:16] <zx> kvm ?
[14:16] <bloony> ActionParsnip: do you mean under the system tab in the listing of fdisk -l ? It says Linux
[14:16] <ZenoArrow> kunji: Perhaps. I'll take a look.
[14:17] <bekks> zx: No clue, havent dealt with kvm for years now.
[14:17] <diamond_raven> this came up in terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/5658159/
[14:17] <zx> bekks: which solution allows it ?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> bloony: have you tried another superblock number?
[14:17] <bekks> zx: XEN and KVM as far as I know.
[14:18] <diamond_raven> looks like its a bug in google earth that makes it crash...
[14:18] <ZenoArrow> kunji: iptables are blank, so the issue isn't there.
[14:18] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: I'll try that.
[14:18] <bloony> ActionParsnip: I tried with 8193 as the example says.. and I asked before how do I know which number to use?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> diamond_raven: tried renaming the config folder for the app?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> bloony: you will find others online
[14:19] <diamond_raven> rename it to?
[14:19] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Tried renaming .ssh to .sshtest, get the same error... ssh:connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> diamond_raven: sonething different, when soneone says "rename" just make it different
[14:19] <sonOfRa> Is it possible to unbind the Ctrl+Alt+T keybinding in 13.04?
[14:19] <diamond_raven> ok
[14:20] <bloony> ActionParsnip: ok.. I'll have a look around
[14:20] <jqvillanova> Sorry for the huge paragraph, my partition and lvm layout looks like this http://ix.io/5Bl, my question are a) if  i want to remove lvroot and set a normal root partition, then reduce by 20Gb sdh1 from the volume group to allocate the normal root partition? b) if i just remove the lvm setup is possible to recover -easily- the data stored in lvhome?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> zenoarrow: is there a setting /etc/ssh/sshd_config to stop local sshing
[14:20] <zx> bekks : thanx, i plan on using kvm
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> diamond_raven: something like adding "_old" is common, as long as it is different it is fine
[14:23] <diamond_raven> yeah, im just going to see if the version before starts or if it also crash  downloading it now...
[14:23] <Bragex9> ActionParsnip: installing Xfce4 did not work. When restarting the computer the screen goes completely black after entering my password. The only thing I can see is the white arrow
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> bragex9: did you choose the xfce session in lightdm
[14:24] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Checked sshd_config, no mention of anything localhost related.
[14:24] <Bragex9> ActionParsnip: I am not sure.. But I think so...
[14:25] <Agd_Scorp> Hello.
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> bragex9: its a concious move. run: killall -u $USER
[14:25] <Agd_Scorp> Anybody here?
[14:25] <pokkos> i cant understand why my laptop keeps swapping :/
[14:25] <Agd_Scorp> ANYBODY HERE?!
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> bragex9: change the session, then login
[14:26] <pokkos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5658190/
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> agd_scorp: take a wild guess.....
[14:26] <thebishop> hi folks, on 13.04, I can't use an external mouse with my laptop
[14:26] <Agd_Scorp> ok folks calm the fuck down for a minute
[14:26] <Agd_Scorp> thebishop; please shut up for a minute
[14:26] <Agd_Scorp> and quietly listen.
[14:26] <Agd_Scorp> alright?
[14:26] <FloodBot1> Agd_Scorp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:26] <IdleOne> !language | Agd_Scorp
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> agd_scorp: there were replies after you asked, so its safe to say that YES there are people
[14:26] <yeats> !attitude | Agd_Scorp
[14:26] <gordonjcp> !attitude | Agd_Scorp
[14:27] <Bragex9> ActionParsnip: is $USER supposed to be written exactly like that, or do I replace it with my username?
[14:27] <gordonjcp> yeats: bah ;-)
[14:27] <yeats> gordonjcp: great minds...
[14:27] <Agd_Scorp> alright folks
[14:27] <gordonjcp> yeats: quite so
[14:27] <Agd_Scorp> i am Agd_Scorp
[14:27] <Agd_Scorp> a professional turkish hacker, living in the wild.
[14:27] <thebishop> anyway, when I plug a mouse into my laptop, the cursor works, but window management doesn't.  I can't move windows or select a different one.
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> bragex9: run it as given, $USER is a variable storing your username. dead handy
[14:28] <jqvillanova> Sorry for the huge paragraph, my partition and lvm layout looks like this http://ix.io/5Bl, my question are a) if  i want to remove lvroot and set a normal root partition, then reduce by 20Gb sdh1 from the volume group to allocate the normal root partition? b) if i just remove the lvm setup is possible to recover -easily- the data stored in lvhome?
[14:28] <gordonjcp> thebishop: that's a bit strange, *any* mouse?
[14:28] <Agd_Scorp> thebishop; try installing preload.
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> agd_scorp: location is moot in support
[14:28] <gordonjcp> jqvillanova: mount the lvhome somewhere and copy the data across to another partition?
[14:28] <thebishop> gordonjcp, yes, i've tried it with a logitech wireless usb mouse, and a motorola bluetooth mouse
[14:28] <bekks> thebishop: preload has nothing to do with your problem.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> thebishop: if you have it plugged in at boot, is it ok
[14:29] <thebishop> bekks, i've already /i'd that guy
[14:29] <thebishop> ActionParsnip, interesting question
[14:29] <thebishop> ActionParsnip, i'll try it
[14:29] <bekks> thebishop: kk :)
[14:29] <Agd_Scorp> alright folks, ubuntu 12 has been owned.
[14:29] <Agd_Scorp> this exploit owns /proc/pid/mem
[14:29] <Agd_Scorp> guy
[14:29] <Agd_Scorp> guys
[14:29] <Agd_Scorp> are there any channels for hackers here?
[14:30] <jqvillanova> gordonjcp: not enough space to do it... i mean there is maybe 500GB, also the net backup is not an option
[14:30] <kunji> Agd_Scorp: Mind linking that so we can check our systems?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> agd_scorp: try in #backtrack-linux
[14:30] <thebishop> ActionParsnip, brb, rebooting
[14:30] <mouser> Hi, how can I check whether nepomuk has indexed a particular directory/device?
[14:30] <Bragex9> ActionParsnip: I tried the killall. Got back to login, and the same happens. Black screen with only the white arrow showing
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> agd_scorp: probably on a level with the other "hackers"
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> bragex9: did you change session though?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> bragex9: using the ubuntu logo near your username
[14:31] <Bragex9> ActionParsnip: hmmm gotta try again..
[14:32] <gordonjcp> jqvillanova: so lvhome is 4TB and contains about 500GB?  Can you unmount it, resize the filesystem and shrink the lv and vg?
[14:32] <thebishop> ActionParsnip, connecting at boot doesn't make a difference
[14:32] <gordonjcp> jqvillanova: doing all this without a backup is likely to end in tears though
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> bragex9: mindlessly loging straight back in will use the same session. Think about it
[14:33] <Agd_Scorp> ActionParsnip; life is a segfault.
[14:33] <bloony> ActionParsnip: I've tried with all the numbers mke2fs -n gives me with no luck :/
[14:33] <jqvillanova> gordonjcp: i just want to quit the lvroot partition
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> agd_scorp: ok
[14:33] <jqvillanova> jqvillanova: then reduce de volume grup (killing sdh1) make a 20 gb partition and readd the space that rests to lvhome
[14:34] <Bragex9> ActionParsnip: I am at the logon screen now. But I can't see how I can change session. The ubuntu logo is not clickable... It's a differemt logon that the normal one... I think it is gdm
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> bragex9: look around the screen after you click your usename
[14:36] <Bragex9> ActionParsnip: I have clicked my username. And now it asks for my password. Nothing else is changed.
[14:37] <HeKToN> hello guys I`m looking for some cool program for drawing and presentations something like this please suggest me one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqBfG-_lDvk
[14:37] <ZenoArrow> This is nuts! I've uninstalled openssh-client and openssh-server, re-installed them, still no dice! Surely there must be some way of finding where the 'connection refused' message is coming from?
[14:37] <HeKToN> the thing is I don`t know what the name of this particular one is, but I would like to find some similar except libreoffice draw
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> bragex9 under the password box, is there a dropdown box?
[14:39] <piter85> Hi all!! like a stupid i've deleted .ecryptfs folders (both in /home and in /home/piter85). Now I cannot see my data... There's a way to solve it?
[14:39] <Bragex9> No, it is not. the logon is different than the normal 13.04 logon screen. Something happened after I tried something I found in a forum. I installed something... either gdm, xdm or something. I don't rememeber..
[14:39] <kalib> hello guys, which command should I use (apt-get) to check if there is any package broken or some job that apt-get dind't complete?
[14:39] <brady9133> Hello everybody, I installed Ubuntu 13.04 onto my hard drive using my laptop and it worked perfect in the laptop. When I put the hard drive in my desktop and turn the computer on all I get is a screen with writing I don't understand, and it says "Boot From CD" at the bottom and does nothing further.. Any ideas?
[14:40] <Bragex9> ActionParsnip: No, it is not. the logon is different than the normal 13.04 logon screen. Something happened after I tried something I found in a forum. I installed something... either gdm, xdm or something. I don't rememeber..
[14:41] <BluesKaj> brady9133, installing to a HDD from one pc then placing it in a pc with different hardware doesn't work
[14:42] <SwedMike> 1/wni 210
[14:43] <brady9133> Hmmm, I didn't know that, I have tried installing it on the desktop with a flash drive, but i can't get it to work. I don't any blank DVDs to use either...
[14:43] <BluesKaj> burn an ubuntu image file to media and use that media in the desktop to install ubuntu , brady9133
[14:44] <brady9133> I have tried that with my flash drive, but it tells me bootmgr is missing or something like that
[14:44] <BluesKaj> is this an older pc brady9133 , like over 4 yrs
[14:45] <brady9133> Yeah, it's from '07 or '08 :/
[14:46] <BluesKaj> !plop | brady9133
[14:46] <BluesKaj> bah
[14:46] <brady9133> !plop? whats that?
[14:46] <BluesKaj> nm , you need a cd , brady9133
[14:48] <brady9133> I guess I will have to go get some DVDs and try it
[14:48] <Bragex9> ActionParsnip: I found out. The login screen changed when I installed GDM. I can not select a different session when I logon. Should I remove gdm?
[14:49] <brady9133> If I can;t get 12.04 on the disk I have here
[14:50] <michael87> I'm running tlp power manager on my ubuntu 13.04 laptop and it is awsome. Question. will I still get the full benifet of my laptops graphics card if I just leave tlp running. I don't see a way to turn it off and on like I would in windows so I'm assuming its an leave on all the time type thing
[14:51] <michael87> sorry the question is ment for emulation gaming. forgot to mention that lol
[14:52] <BluesKaj> brady9133, if you have access to dvds then you can burn an ubuntu image toi it and install it directly on the desktop pc
[14:53] <sdafsdfa> UBUNTU resets Brightness after each PC restart, to maximum. i want to fix that.
[14:53] <zastaph> I can't quite make it of http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/make/Lenovo/?category=Laptop if Lenovo Thinkpad E135 is certified for Ubuntu aswell as the E130
[14:54] <zastaph> Thinkpad Edge 13 which is a generic term, is
[14:54] <mobile> sdafsdfa: u will need to configure rc.local
[14:54] <lwells> Any tools in linux/Ubuntu for updating the bios?
[14:55] <histo> netlar: typically the motherboard manufacturer will provide a bootable file to upgrade your bios.
[14:56] <netlar> histo: so that is done outside of Ubuntu?
[14:56] <histo> netlar: yes it is always done outside of your operating system.
[14:57] <netlar> kinda knew that, but not sure how to flash a new version to motherboard
[14:57] <thebishop> ActionParsnip, this thread describes the exact problem i'm seeing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2143896&highlight=mouse
[14:57] <thebishop> ActionParsnip, including the alt-tab issue, which is also very strange
[14:57] <thebishop> i'm thinking compiz bug
[14:58] <histo> netlar: look at the mobo manufacturer's site for instructions
[14:58] <histo> netlar: Also keep in mind I wouldn't flash it unless it provides some new feature or bug fix you need.
[14:58] <zastaph> any ultrabooks besides Dell XPS 13 from a major manufacturer that comes with Ubuntu?
[14:59] <netlar> histo: only reason I am thinking of doing it, becuase it is recommened by Launchpad, before reporting any bugs
[14:59] <Prock> my root user has sound, and the prock user does not, google chrome cant be ran as root, so how can i make it so prock has sound also
[14:59] <histo> zastaph: system 76 has ubuntu only based machines. outside of them and dell I don't know of any manufacturers that are providing ubuntu
[14:59] <zastaph> histo, is system 76 available in europe?
[14:59] <histo> zastaph: I believe so system76.com
[15:00] <zastaph> I wouldnt call them major :p It's a pity that XPS 13 with Ubuntu is not configurable
[15:00] <histo> Prock: so your user has no sound at all... or just in chrome?
[15:00] <netlar> histo: I just have this issue with Ubuntu booting up slowly when my external HD is attached
[15:00] <histo> netlar: Do you have it set to mount the external drive on boot?
[15:00] <Prock> no sound at all, i checked other apps too
[15:01] <histo> !sound | Prock
[15:01] <zastaph> histo, i am also looking after 13" max.. system 76 start at 14"
[15:01] <Prock> vol is all the way up with alsamixer
[15:01] <netlar> histo: you mean in the boot sequence? It is not there at all
[15:01] <histo> zastaph: You could by any system and install ubuntu on it. I would just look a the compatibility list first to make sure everything will work.
[15:02] <zastaph> histo, i could.. but i already tried getting Ubuntu to work on a few older laptops and had problems.. thats why this time I want to buy the most compatible I can get out of the box
[15:02] <Prock> is ther a group prock should belong to
[15:02] <histo> netlar: It could be an issue with your boot options in your bios. Depends where the slow down is. I would use bootchart with it plugged in and compare to it not being plugged in to figure out what is going on.
[15:03] <histo> Prock: prock adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[15:03] <Prock> i dont remember how to check groups or set them
[15:03] <histo> zastaph: I'm afraid that's going to be the dell or system76.  They are certified
[15:04] <netlar> histo: the funny thing is the bootchart when the external is connected says it only takes 35 sec to boot
[15:04] <histo> !hcl | zastaph
[15:04] <zastaph> histo, with dell im forced to buy 256 GB SSD :) it's too expensive
[15:04] <netlar> histo: but the screen will be blank for over 2 min before I hear the hard drive reading
[15:05] <histo> netlar: check your boot options in your bios.
[15:05] <userr> lts here: chat clients disconnect when i switch to another Xorg server (by using ctrl+alt+F8). how does the Xorg server "under ctrl+alt+F7" know that i switched away from it?
[15:05] <netlar> histo: what should i be checking?
[15:05] <histo> zastaph: check the hardware list from ubottu there is also a laptop list somewhere in the iwki
[15:05] <histo> netlar: the boot device priority. Set it to just boot off of your hard drive first.]
[15:06] <netlar> histo: did that
[15:07] <histo> netlar: well then perhaps update your bios.  But from what you are explaining it's hanging before ubuntu even gets the chance to load.
[15:07] <jmurrib21> i need help trying to install ubuntu 13.04 in a new desktop pc that have win8 pre-installed. I have tried to install from CD and from bootable usb drive with no sucess
[15:07] <Solstick> bonjour tout le monde :-)
[15:07] <netlar> histo: yes that appears to be what is happening
[15:08] <netlar> histo: I am going to use a different exteral to see what happens
[15:08] <histo> jmurrib21: are you using the 64bit version?
[15:08] <jmurrib21> yes
[15:08] <histo> !fr | Solstick
[15:08] <histo> jmurrib21: What sort of issue are you having?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> jmurrib21: what happens?
[15:09] <Prock> general question, got a new laptop that had windows 7 on it, bought 2nd hand, so i look up the specs for the make and model, and the manufacture site says ubuntu 10.10 is an option for the OS. My question would be, could it do any harm or have any difficulty that needs to be fixed if i use the latest version of ubuntu?
[15:09] <jmurrib21> pc has been set up to boot from usb drive or cd rom
[15:09] <aitrom> getting bored :/
[15:09] <jmurrib21> the black screen with ubunto choices appear
[15:09] <Solstick> Hello everybody (sorry for the french message it was for another serv used with /amsg)
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> prock: should be ok
[15:09] <jmurrib21> once i hit the selection
[15:09] <jmurrib21> install ubuntu
[15:10] <histo> Prock: no should be fine
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> jmurrib21: what video chip is it using?
[15:10] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I wanna cry "Help me!" repeatingly... ;(
[15:10] <aitrom> best version of linux??
[15:10] <jmurrib21> the pc just hang with a black screen and the num lock led lits on
[15:10] <histo> !nomodeset | jmurrib21
[15:10] <aitrom> best version of linux??
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> aitrom: depends on requirement. There is no single best anything
[15:10] <OerHeks> aitrom, yes it is.
[15:10] <histo> !best | aitrom
[15:11] <jmurrib21> ok
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> aitrom: without details, the qurstion is nonesense
[15:11] <jmurrib21> i was thinking that i needed to remove the boot security
[15:11] <jmurrib21> which i also did remove
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> jmurib21: again, what video chip are you usingñ
[15:11] <jmurrib21> i'm going to read that
[15:11] <jmurrib21> let me see
[15:12] <jmurrib21> amd radeon hd 7310
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> jmurrib21: is it a switchable gpu as well?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> jmurrib21: what CPU do you use?
[15:12] <aitrom> why linux is better than windows ... i enjoy coding in windows(ide)
[15:12] <jmurrib21> it's this pc hp p2-1334 amd e1-1200
[15:13] <utfans05> aitrom: its totally open source and you can do whatever you want with it
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> aitrom: depends on the distro and requirements, sometines windows can be better
[15:13] <histo> aitrom: then /j #windows
[15:13] <Prock> so my sound would work "out of the box" for non-root user lol, currently using backtrack... its based off ubuntu
[15:13] <histo> !derivatives | Prock
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> Aitrom: this is all offtopic here, this is support. i sugest you try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:14] <jmurrib21> now i have an external hard drive that have ubuntu 13.04 installed when i was using a laptop that i fried. is possible to save the settings from that install
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> jmurrib21: you can copty data off, yes
[15:14] <histo> jmurrib21: yes. Everything should be in /home/username   as far as user files and settings. You can get your package selections with dpkg --get-selections
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> jmurrib: try the boot option: radeon.nomodeset=1
[15:15] <jmurrib21> ok
[15:15] <jmurrib21> i'm going to find out first how to clear the issue with the graphics card and try to install
[15:16] <lacy> goodmorning  :)
[15:16] <utfans05> mornign
[15:16] <utfans05> morning*
[15:16] <Prock> does ubuntu have aircrack-ng and fern-wifi-cracker ... stuff like that
[15:17] <histo> !info aircrack-ng
[15:17] <jmurrib21> then, if I install ubuntu on that hard drive that have the OS installed. will the new install recognize or identify that previous installed OS on that drive or will format everything to re-instate itself?
[15:17] <histo> jmurrib21: it should ask you if you want to dualboot or erase everything
[15:18] <lacy> i have a question i have a toshbia x775 im downloading a realtek audio driver  now i have sound now but i can tell my 3d subwoofer is not enable do i need wine to make it work i dunno im new lol
[15:18] <histo> !sound | lacy
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> jmurrib21: you can tel it to use standing partitions and not format them, it should install over the top but it may cause issues with files from the old install. I'd go for a clean and install fresh
[15:19] <UltimaKR> I just installed lubuntu on an older computer and it told me that installation was complete and that I needed to restart.  When I did that, the Dell logo appeared and then the screen went blank and the monitor turned off.  What do I do about that?
[15:19] <aitrom> how can i get paid sfotwares of ubuntu for free
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> lacy: wine wont help you any
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> aitrom: we dont support piracy here in ANY form
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> ultimakr: what video chip do you use?
[15:20] <aitrom> ok sorry ... thanks anyway    :ActionParsnip
[15:21] <UltimaKR> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure exactly but it's an older graphics card.  It didn't have trouble booting up XP but for this the computer remained on but nothing was on the screen.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> ultimakr: does the system have a model?
[15:21] <UltimaKR> ActionParsnip: Yeah, it's a Dimension 4300
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> ultimakr: "older" tells us nothing at all
[15:22] <rantic>  Hi everyone, I'm trying to do an ubuntu minimal install but its failing to install the grub boot loader. I noticed its trying to install on my usb stick and not the hdd. How i could force a grub-install /dev/sdb ?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> ultimakr: couldnt use the web to find out the gpu based on the model, seeing as you know the model....too obvious?
[15:22] <utfans05> UltimaKR: if you press alt+ctrl+F1 do you get a prompt? your monitor may be seeing a bad resolution.
[15:22] <tinjaw> I am following this guide: http://devstack.org/guides/single-machine.html
[15:22] <tinjaw> I have added user stack to sudoers
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> rantix: ive had this. i had to boot to live usb and install bootloader
[15:23] <tinjaw> logged out, logged in. rebooted.
[15:23] <UltimaKR> ActionParsnip: What's too obvious? I can open up the machine to see which one it is.
[15:23] <tinjaw> stack still doesn't have sudoers NOPASSWD permissions
[15:23] <tinjaw> any ideas
[15:23] <UltimaKR> utfans05: Not sure let me give that a try.
[15:23] <Prock> UltimaKR if u cant see at all, on your boot menu press tab or "e" or what ever is needed to add boot parameters and put this at the end with out the quotes "-s"
[15:23] <kunji> lacy: Funny you should ask, I'm also not sure how to get my subwoofer to work, how to enable 2.1 sound setup (it's a built in subwoofer on my laptop).  Others had success editing the pulseaudio config, changing the default channel number to 3 and enabling lfe mixing, but it didn't change anything for me.
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> ultimakr: yes but you know the model, so you can use the web to find the spec and therefore the video chip. right?
[15:24] <Prock> thats if gui auto loads and stops u from seeing
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> prock: it doesnt and that is the isue
[15:24] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:25] <utfans05> yay netsplit...
[15:25] <UltimaKR> Ok I'm not sure why but when I turned on the computer this time it loaded and the GNU Grub just appeared.
[15:25] <Prock> the -s would get him logged in so he can make changes
[15:25] <UltimaKR> Maybe it was just a glitch all along? I am going to see if everything works well from here.
[15:26] <rantic> ActionParsnip: i'm relatively new to this. Do you mean you finish the minimal install and then use the same usb to install?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> ulimakr: seems to be an nvidia gpu, you may need the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> ultimakr: i flew to your place, opened the case and had a look in, all in a few seconds
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> rantic: you could hit CTRL+ALT+F3 and run the grub install there
[15:28] <kunji> Any ideas on reducing screen tearing with the proprietary drivers 7970m?  There used to be an option for it in the driver that worked quite nicely (well, in older versions of catalyst like what my 4870 uses, I don't know if the 7970m drivers did).
[15:29] <rantic> I tried this but im told grub-install could not be found
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> rantic: my grub skils are few, maybe others can advise. at least you have a backup with the gui live cd
[15:30] <rantic> Its a 30mb minimal install image
[15:30] <kunji> !grub | rantic
[15:31] <kunji> rantic: Those community docs have pretty much anything anyone needs to know about grub use (thought not for developing it ;))
[15:32] <rantic> kunji: i'm stuck mid install with only my phone to communicate. Was hoping someone had a quick answer.
[15:33] <WeThePeople> i have a bug.. headphones work off and on between reboots. any ideas
[15:33] <kunji> rantic: You're trying to reinstall grub?  I didn't catch initially what the problem was.
[15:34] <kunji> rantic: and you have access to a liveCD?  Then this is what I would use: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[15:34] <rantic> Im installing ubuntu from the minimal image, no other OS on the drive. However grub keeps trying to install to my usb drive and not my hdd.
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> wethepeople: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> wethepeople: wait 10 seconds and reboot
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> rantic: let it, then use a graphical desktop to chroot and install grub plus updates
[15:36] <kunji> rantic: Ah, yeah, try installing it manually with the ChRoot method on that page.
[15:36] <Prock> usermod --groups admin,disk,cdrom,audio prock .... should that fix it, do i have to log out
[15:36] <Prock> fix the sound that is
[15:37] <BluesKaj> Prock, what's your sound issue?
[15:38] <Prock> prock has no sound at all but root does
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> prock: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[15:38] <Prock> lucid
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> prock: do you use a desktop OS?
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> prock: mouse pointer etc?
[15:39] <Prock> huh?
[15:39] <Prock> oh laptop
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> prock: yes but do you have a graphical desktop and firefox browser? etc
[15:40] <Prock> yes
[15:40] <Prock> gnome
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> prock: lucid desktop is EOL. I also remeber you said you were using backtrack which is also unsupported her
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> here
[15:40] <Prock> EOL?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> prock: end of life, unsupported in ANY way
[15:41] <Prock> what version was lucid
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> prock: 10.04
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> prock: you will get support in #backtrack-linux as that is what you are using
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> prock: and you were told it is not supported here
[15:42] <Prock> is ther a copy of ubuntu that allways stayed the latest version with out having to reinstall
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> prock: Precise is LTS and supported til April 2017
[15:43] <Prock> what ver is Precise
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> prock: make a precise install media, remove backtrack and install Precise
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> 12.04
[15:44] <Prock> is that the current latest
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> prock: 13.04 is the latest but is EOL in January 2014
[15:44] <Prock> whats the differences between them
[15:45] <Prock> which one would be better for my platop
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> prock: do you have web access?
[15:45] <Prock> at public places
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> prock: why not find out, instead of asking, the web can tell you more and quicker
[15:46] <Prock> im not good at asking hte web
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> prock: plus it frees me up to do other stuf
[15:46] <Prock> how would i be able to tell
[15:46] <Prock> which would be better for me
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> prock: go to your favouritr search engine and type: what is new in raring
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> prock: go witry Precise, its meant to be rock solid
[15:48] <histo> !releases | Prock
[15:49] <histo> Prock: Or you could just /j #backtrack-linux and fix the problem you are haivng instead of asking here.
[15:51] <Prock> dell.com say 10.10 will work with this laptop so ill switch to ubuntu, so i can most likely get other things working like the hard buttons for vol working and etc
[15:51] <Kabuking> I just installed lubuntu on my computer but am not sure how to connect to the internet.  I already went into the network option and input the SSID and security key for my router, but the computer says I am disconnected.
[15:52] <bekks> Prock: 10.10 is EOL
[15:53] <Kabuking> Can anybody tell me how to actually connect to the connection I set up?
[15:53] <Prock> dealing with hardware, would 12.04 V.S. latest make a difference at all, talking about hardware support only
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Prock, who cares what dell says , check the ubuntu required laptop specs and go from there , why waste your time on an OS you'll just have to upgrade anyway
[15:56] <Prock> not being funny but how to check the ubuntu required laptop specs and go from there?
[15:58] <BluesKaj> Prock, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#System_requirements
[15:59] <Prock> thanks
[16:01] <jpayotei> does anybody know how to fix overwritten grub???
[16:02] <BluesKaj> jpayotei, overwritten by ?
[16:02] <Tex_Nick> jpayotei:  update-grub ... if /etc/default/grub is still intact ?
[16:02] <jpayotei> by windows mbr
[16:02] <jpayotei> i tried doing things told in different forums...
[16:02] <doc-donkey> hello, how do you open a new nautilus window via terminal ? (trying to fix a custom launcher that will reopen the previous nautilus window or won't move)
[16:02] <BluesKaj> !grub |  jpayotei
[16:03] <Prock>  jpayotei i use HBCD utilitys to mess with MBR's
[16:04] <BluesKaj> Prock, that won't help install grub to he mbr
[16:04] <Prock> it can
[16:04] <jpayotei> whats a HBCD???
[16:04] <devfree> hello
[16:04] <Prock> there is mbr installers on it
[16:05] <Prock> hirens boot CD
[16:05] <devfree> cd
[16:05] <jpayotei> actually i tried installing it in existing ubuntu partition
[16:05] <jpayotei> but it says... cannot create directory... no space left on device
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> prock: you could use xubuntu for a lighter OS or if you dislike Unity
[16:05] <jpayotei> what does that mean???
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Prock, ok , I tought you referering to the windows BCD
[16:05] <th0r> jpayotei, you don't install grub in a partition
[16:06] <jpayotei> so???
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> jpayotei: remove old kernels to free space
[16:06] <Prock> unity?
[16:06] <jpayotei> old kernels??? how do you do that???
[16:06] <aitsupn> I have 4gb ram installed but when I check through free -m Mem total says 3283?
[16:06] <jpayotei> i am a complete noob...
[16:06] <jpayotei> just started using linux...
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> prock: yes, unity
[16:06] <Prock> whta is it
[16:07] <neekz0r> aitsupn: could be because your graphics card device is 'borrowing' fromyour system ram
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> aitsupn: what is the output of: uname -m
[16:07] <jpayotei> does anybody know what's no space left on device problem???
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> prock: a shell for Gnome, look online
[16:08] <anders_> ,s
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> jpayotei: ubuntu tweak can remove old kernels, or use software centre. do not removecthe running kernel or the kernel metapackage
[16:08] <aitsupn> ActionParsnip: output of that is i686
[16:09] <jpayotei> thank you... i hope i wont screw the whole system up...
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> aitsupn: then its 32bit, you are seeing the max ram for 32bit OS
[16:09] <jpayotei> where's ubuntu tweak???
[16:09] <aitsupn> ActionParsnip: shouldn't be the max ram for 32bit around 4gb?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> jpayotei: its a 3rd party app. lots of guides online for how to install
[16:10] <jpayotei> okie thanks...
[16:10] <aitsupn> ActionParsnip: it says 3283 not 4xxx
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> aitsupn: 3.2Gb is max
[16:10] <aitsupn> ActionParsnip: thanks
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> jpayotei: also run: sudo apt-get clean
[16:11] <jpayotei> okie tnx...
[16:11] <jpayotei> ciao...
[16:11] <jpayotei> pagalharu...
[16:15] <yeehi>  is an Intel Atom i386 architecture, as far as deciding which GNU/Linux ISO to use?
[16:16] <raven_> truecrypt: possible to enlarge a truecrypt partition?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> yeehi, yes use the i386 image
[16:17] <yeehi> Thanks, BluesKaj
[16:19] <neekz0r> raven_: you may wish to contac the truecrypt folks for that question, if you are asking if ubuntu can grow a partition that truecrypt can go into, it can quite easily if you are using logical volumes
[16:20] <Bragex9> ActionParsnip: I am back again, trying to solve the problem. I have removed GDM. And when I now try to run xfce4 manually from terminal, I get this error message: fatal server error: cannot establish any listening sockets. Make sure an X server isn't already running. Please consult the x.org Foundation for support. Also check xorg.0.log for additional info. And it also says: server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. No protocol specifie
[16:20] <raven_> neekz0r, i am running a truecrypt partition on an lv and i want to enlarge this lv and with that the truecrypt partition
[16:21] <derp> sup fools
[16:22] <sha1sum> whatup yo
[16:23] <neekz0r> raven_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm (look under "Resizing Partitions" section
[16:23] <los> ciao
[16:23] <los> !list
[16:24] <neekz0r> is that some sort of 'click' thing around here? :P
[16:24] <ceil> ok, i got `find . * -type d` to find all subfolders... i got chmod a+x to make the lot executable... how do i combine these again? do i even need find or can chmod only effect dirs (rtfm'd, didn't see the option)?
[16:27] <neekz0r> ceil: the find parameter you are searching for is '-exec'
[16:27] <ceil> neekz0r: as in `find . * -type d -exec chmod a+x`?
[16:27]  * tirengarfio__ is away: reason
[16:28] <neekz0r> maybe i missed something, but that's not right except under wierd circumstances, what are you trying to do?
[16:28] <ceil> neekz0r: set all subdirectories in $PWD to executable by all
[16:29] <histo> ceil: find . * -type d chmod a+x {} +
[16:30] <neekz0r> do any of the subdirectores have spaces in them?
[16:30] <neekz0r> in the name, that is
[16:31] <ceil> neekz0r: doesn't look like it. it's mediawiki, so i doubt it
[16:31] <ceil> histo: cheers o/
[16:31] <Guest86081> hello everyone. I am setting up a ubuntu 12.04 box for my children. I have created accounts for them and their mother and I. I am creating desktop launchers for the things they need. I would like to disable the standard launcher dock to prevent unrequired  access to other applications.
[16:32] <camz> neekz0r: I don't think the * should be in there?
[16:33] <Quest>  It is very strange that I have 20 torrents and none has an active seeder (not even kubuntu.torrent iso). I get some times speed of 40 k but usually its 0. My internet speed is ok while downloading files and surfing. I am using kubuntu, ktorrent with default settings. can anyone tell what can be wrong?
[16:33] <tj83_KIDS> I know how to enable/disable access to printers by user account. This prevents the kids from printing. However it would be nice to have it prompt for an admin credential to allow a print to happen from the kids accounts.
[16:34] <replaceits> Is your firewall blocking the port ktorrent uses?
[16:34] <A1Recon> Will there be a problem if i type "telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl" in the terminal??
[16:34] <Quest>  It is very strange that I have 20 torrents and none has an active seeder (not even kubuntu.torrent iso). I get some times speed of 40 k but usually its 0. My internet speed is ok while downloading files and surfing. I am using kubuntu, ktorrent with default settings. can anyone tell what can be wrong?
[16:35] <tj83_KIDS> Quest, replaceits is probably right on. check selinux, iptables, firewall etc.
[16:35] <CajunLanMan> Hello all. I've set up a machine in my house running 12.04, to be used as a server. The problem I'm having, is that I want to run it headless, but the remote desktop only seems to work AFTER I log in to the server. Is there a way I can set it up so that I can remote in before logging in?
[16:36] <tj83_KIDS> CajunLanMan, for a headless server I use CentOS full command line. Im not sure your server goals but its the most efficient way to go.
[16:37] <tj83_KIDS> CajunLanMan, you can have the server auto login a user account which would provide a session for you to log into remotely even after reboots etc. go to user accounts and you will be able to enable this.
[16:37] <CajunLanMan> tj83_KIDS, I'm not quite ready to commit to full command line yet. However, I do need a central machine to serve files to multiple computers.
[16:38] <aitsupn> hardware
[16:38] <tj83_KIDS> CajunLanMan, samba is pretty easily managed. you would probably be surprised. a single configuration file takes care of this service.
[16:38] <CajunLanMan> tj83_KIDS, I thought about just setting it up to auto login, but on the off chance someone decides to break into my home, and walk out with my server, I'd like it to at least require a login password. I'm thinking of keeping it encrypted also.
[16:39] <histo> CajunLanMan: freenas is an option as well if you don't want to setup samba... Although samba can also be configured via the web interface with swat
[16:40] <histo> CajunLanMan: well the login password isn't security. If you have physical access to the box I could get your files. Unless you used disk encryption now that's another story.
[16:40] <CajunLanMan> I'm fine using samba. I also like using 12.04 because I can run my son's Minecraft server on there.
[16:40] <tj83_KIDS> CajunLanMan, im not really a ubuntu user, but which service/protocol do you want to use?  VNC can open and close sessions through some extra command line parameters. it has been some time. open the manpage for the client your using.
[16:41] <CajunLanMan> histo, encryption is on the todo list.  The first thing I have to do is get to where I can remote into the machine after it powers up headless.
[16:41] <histo> CajunLanMan: ssh is the way to go for that.
[16:42] <tj83_KIDS> right histo
[16:42] <CajunLanMan> commandline then?
[16:42] <histo> CajunLanMan: If it's just a fileserver sure I would just go cli
[16:42] <CajunLanMan> It's a file server, as well as a minecraft server.
[16:42] <histo> CajunLanMan: It's up to you thouhg. Install a full blown desktop if you want. Doesn't really matter. Your decision
[16:43] <CajunLanMan> perhaps I can run minecraft on commandprompt only.
[16:43] <tj83_KIDS> CajunLanMan, again, a simple CLI system cant be beat. I bet you can run minecraft server from CLI
[16:43] <histo> CajunLanMan: I'd assume the server could be run that way. Since most servers are cli
[16:43] <netlar> Ubuntu 13.04 has some serious bugs with the shutdown process
[16:43] <tj83_KIDS> you can run most things CLI
[16:43] <CajunLanMan> I've got a server 2008 standard license I can use. I'm just trying to do the Ubuntu thing first.
[16:43] <tj83_KIDS> netlar, i couldnt even get a 13.04 fresh install to bring me to a desktop so.....
[16:43]  * tj83_KIDS not impressed
[16:44] <replaceits> you can run mc servers on cli, i personaly perfer to, better performance vs gui
[16:44] <CajunLanMan> Finding myself less and less impressed with the microsoft solution. So this little box is my first foray into trying to use Linux as a server.
[16:44] <camz> tj83_KIDS: Waht did you install it on?
[16:44] <tj83_KIDS> CajunLanMan, go green in power, less heat, less fans to make noise, more memory opened up, and very secure remote management through ssh.
[16:44] <CajunLanMan> Figure I'll start small at the house, ya know?
[16:44] <netlar> This is the 5th time I have tried to do a normal shutdown and it locks on me, and I have to power down the computer manually
[16:44] <zx> hp bios doesn't support iommu .. so am out of luck to try vga pass thru
[16:44] <histo> CajunLanMan: the gui is just unnecessary overhead in my opinion.
[16:45] <tj83_KIDS> camz, its a old 2.8ghz celeron. meh, i know its crud. its parts thrown together for a 4 and 6yr old.
[16:45] <netlar> Then , when I restart, the OS is all messed up, cannot even get back with recovery mode
[16:45] <netlar> It is like they release this before its time
[16:46] <camz> tj83_KIDS: I see. I installed it on a 6 year old laptop to run a musicbrainz mirror and it went flawlessly
[16:46] <netlar> Looks like I will need to reinstall again
[16:46] <tj83_KIDS> camz, 13.04 doesnt like the old nvidia FX 5600 lol. 12.04 seems to be ok with it tho.
[16:46] <histo> CajunLanMan: My home server is running on a netbook box an Acer Aspire Revo it's got a dual atom processor... does the job quite well for what I do.
[16:47] <CajunLanMan> tj83_KIDS, histo, So from the sounds of it, until I can sit down and learn some command line, the only solution is to set the box to log into the desktop automatically, without requiring a password.
[16:47] <Dry_Lips> Hi, does canonical accept patches from the community? I think I read something about them not receiving patches anymore?
[16:47] <histo> netlar: prehaps you are experiencing some issues with whatever video card you are using and the drive for it.
[16:47] <camz> tj83_KIDS: Did you install updates from internet during installation?
[16:48] <CajunLanMan> histo, My goal is to eventually build a custom box for this server, which I was leaning toward the atom platform for. Great for low power always on box.
[16:48] <tj83_KIDS> histo, very nice. I have a desktop machine that has a low power setup. old P4 high capacity 2.5in mobile drives in a raid.
[16:48] <netlar> histo: It will work for days, then for some reason will not shut down properly, then it is messed up
[16:48] <CajunLanMan> histo, My backup solution also requires a gui, ( as far as I know)
[16:48] <tj83_KIDS> camz, i did allow the updated files for download at install yes.
[16:48] <histo> netlar: that's bizaare. Maybe run a memtest on it.
[16:48] <Quest> my speed is good but why i keep on disconnecting
[16:48] <jrex__Downstairs> I going to try my question over here:
[16:48] <jrex__Downstairs> Derp, trying to get some data back with this sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /media/af673658-d74b-45e6-b153-6e861ca2afc4/home/username/.Private
 But, a I have AFS directorys, and this keep trying to search them for the .Private file
 AFS is a HUGE global filesystem and I can't figure out how to exclude it - it looks like ecrypt-recover-private uses the find utility maybe
 I would have hoped the command would have gone directily to the file as I feel that I am telling it exactly where to find it, but it still tries to traverse the ful
[16:48] <FloodBot1> jrex__Downstairs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <histo> CajunLanMan: I run a cron job that calls rsync
[16:49] <netlar> histo: from the grub screen right?
[16:49] <derp> jrex__Downstairs: huh?
[16:49] <CajunLanMan> I haven't played with rsync. I'm currently using Crashplan.
[16:49] <jrex__Downstairs> err, flood bot got me
[16:49] <histo> !details | jrex__Downstairs
[16:49] <CajunLanMan> histo, I haven't played with rsync. I'm currently using Crashplan.
[16:49] <histo> jrex__Downstairs: in one line
[16:49] <LFS> does anyone know how to fix the keyboard weird behavior under ubuntu vi?
[16:50] <LFS> specially the up/down buttons
[16:50] <jrex__Downstairs> basically, I am trying to exclude a extremely large global filesystem from ecrypt-recover-private
[16:50] <tj83_KIDS> CajunLanMan, I think your a strong enough user to embrace the power of some traditional track proven linux solutions. ALL of which perform best under CLI. Take a chance. setup a VM on a desktop and give it a test drive.
[16:51] <theadmin> LFS: You shouldn't be using the arrow keys, they're evil. Anyway, they work fine for me under Vim, try installing that instead, because, well, "vi" is a fairly reduced version, I'm not sure it understands arrow keys well by default.
[16:51] <jrex__Downstairs> I feel that I am telling the command exactly  where to find the file which is mounted under /media, but it still tries to traverse AFS - a glocal filesystem on my computer
[16:52] <CaptainQuirk> Hi there
[16:52] <yofun> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1434555&highlight=internet+dj+console+jack this setup seems outdated
[16:52] <CaptainQuirk> Made a mistake when installing 13.04 to replace my 12.04 on my laptop
[16:52] <yofun> Now open System > Administration > Users and Groups  Click the keys where it says click to make changes, put in your password. Click Manage groups. You should find one called audio, if not, add group and call it audio. Add yourself to it.
[16:53] <histo> LFS: what do you mean wierd behavior?
[16:53] <theadmin> yofun: sudo adduser your_username audio
[16:53] <yofun> but ubuntu 13.04 doesnt have that
[16:53] <yofun> ah ok
[16:53] <LFS> theadmin: the reduced vi version arrow buttons do well under other distros
[16:53] <CaptainQuirk> I chose to manually handle the partitioning
[16:53] <netlar> histo: I am running the memtest now
[16:53] <LFS> histo: up types A
[16:53] <LFS> down types B
[16:53] <theadmin> LFS: vi on ubuntu is actually vim-tiny. Other distros may use something else.
[16:53] <LFS> Left C / Right D
[16:54] <histo> LFS: install vim
[16:54] <CaptainQuirk> I wanted to keep my home directory as is but it didn't work
[16:54] <theadmin> LFS: That's normal vi behaviour, install vim.
[16:54] <Bragex9> I am about to give up and go get my old xp cd... I ugraded to ubuntu 13,04, and cant the the computer started. After entering username and password on the logon screen, the screen turns black. I can only open terminal, and I have no clue about what to do...
[16:54] <histo> LFS: also get out of insert mode and arrows will work.
[16:54] <yofun> theadmin:  do i need to log out and log in?
[16:54] <theadmin> yofun: Yes
[16:54] <histo> !nomodeset | Bragex9
[16:54] <yofun> k
[16:54] <CaptainQuirk> It wasn't erased, but I have a separate partition with my ancient home directory now
[16:55] <CaptainQuirk> I'm willing to reinstall the whole thing, but I would like to be sure on the way to proceed
[16:55] <CaptainQuirk> When selecting the partition with my ancient home directory, should I choose the  /home mount point ?
[16:56] <CaptainQuirk> And should I leave the checkbox « format » unchecked
[16:56] <CaptainQuirk> ?
[16:56] <th0r> CaptainQuirk, yes to both
[16:56] <tj83_KIDS> CaptainQuirk, so your trying to reinstall the OS but leave /home untouched. if so, then yes.
[16:56] <histo> CaptainQuirk: yes and yes.
[16:57] <PLOMB> list
[16:57] <LFS> yes histo .. I didn't know that bout insert mode .. it works fine now
[16:57] <histo> CaptainQuirk: it will then add your "ancient" home partition to fstab tob e mounted on boot at /home
[16:57] <LFS> thanks guys
[16:57] <jackyyll> i just added this PPA to my system (https://launchpad.net/~trinitronx/+archive/rtorrent-extended) and i cant figure out how to download rtorrent from that PPA... Whenever i try to apt-get install rtorrent it just gets the normal one from teh ubuntu reositories
[16:57] <histo> LFS: use vim-tutor
[16:57] <CaptainQuirk> thanks ! So, I will have to choose the same username, obviously ...
[16:57] <histo> sorry vimtutor no dash
[16:57] <histo> CaptainQuirk: yes
[16:58] <diverdude> is 13.04 compatible with the optimus cards?
[17:00] <netlar> so what should i do after running a memtest
[17:02] <Bragex9> ubottu: hmmm... I must actually edit the kernel? and apply nomodeset?
[17:03] <Emmanuel_Chanel> oidentd 2.0.8 is an auth daemon. One on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS router should forward authentication to another on this client PC. But it doesn't.
[17:05] <zastaph> since Ubuntu doesn't seem to support Intel DVMT it seems if you get a laptop with integrated intel HD graphics it will take up to 1.8 GB of memory and you can't do anything about it.. Isn't it better to get dedicated graphics in a laptop then?
[17:06] <jqvillanova> hi somebody with an ip phone could call me , it's just for test
[17:06] <jqvillanova> !!!!!!!!1
[17:07] <Bragex9> I am inside the Kernel editing mode. Does anyone know exactly how I shall apply the nomodeset parameter?
[17:07] <alchahine> hi
[17:07] <ceil> can anyone tell me how to finish installing mediawiki here? i selected "ask me more questions", and it took me to this screen. there's no 'continue' or 'finish' button or link, though... http://i.imgur.com/JMtF96u.png
[17:09] <Ben66> Bragex9: what do you mean "kernel editing mode"
[17:10] <looop> where's everybody :o
[17:12] <Seven_Six_Two> will apt-cacher-ng also cache for update-manager -d
[17:12] <Bragex9> Ben66: I halted the startup by pressing shift, then selected to edit the startup alternative with the latest kernel. And from what I understand I am supposed to type in additonal kernel information. Like nomodeset..
[17:13] <Seven_Six_Two> never mind. it works
[17:21] <morten77> anyone that can recomend a music player that plays AHX mod files?
[17:22] <morten77> I downloaded a modarchive for new mods made 2013 and they are inf AHX IT MED MO3 MOD OCT S3M and XM format, but vlc don't like all of those, so now I would like another music player that can do all of them.
[17:22] <morten77> preferably a simple, but yet graphical program. (and no "handle your music library" thing, and no client/server program)
[17:23] <morten77> perhaps there is a version of VLC that can play all of those, anyone that knows where I can download that (compiled for ubuntu 10.04), a stand alone vlc that I can have in the home directory instead of installing in the system whould also be good.
[17:23] <gityaman> Эм... Тут есть русские каналы?)
[17:24] <OerHeks> morten77, XMP  can play amiga files > http://xmp.sourceforge.net/
[17:24] <theadmin> !ru | gityaman
[17:24] <morten77> ok I'll look into xmp then
[17:25] <replaceits> So im using 2 displays (extended), its a bit of a hasle getting to the other screen when I have launchers on both screens, how would i be able to set the launcher on display one to be on the left side and the launcher on d2 to be on the right side?
[17:27] <replaceits> also, its a hasle because i have them set to hidden until you hover over them so the mouse gets stuck on the edge when trying to move to the other screen
[17:31] <cdavis_> 13.04 randomly freezes before I enter the decryption passphrase so I suppose that means during initrd. I don't know how to trouble shoot this or prepare a meaningful bug, can someone direct me to some reading?
[17:32] <Solstick> hey all :-)
[17:32] <tttb> why isn't ubuntu letting me change the keyboard layout anymore?
[17:32] <tttb> i can't select a new language
[17:32] <Arkhanos> Solstick: hi
[17:37] <tttb> well apparenlty they're limitting it to four now
[17:37] <tttb> :@
[17:37] <tttb> and chinese doesn't work for some reason, nor japanese
[17:37] <Arkhanos> tttb: where did you look?
[17:38] <tttb> "Keyboard Layout"
[17:38] <beclauss> Hello?
[17:39] <beclauss> I'm having problems with my wifi
[17:39] <beclauss> sometimes it goes fast
[17:39] <beclauss> then 1 sec later
[17:39] <beclauss> it just runs very slow
[17:39] <beclauss> any solution?
[17:40] <theadmin> beclauss: Try disabling IPv6
[17:40] <gordonjcp> tttb: it's a limitation in the way that X handles keyboards
[17:40] <gordonjcp> tttb: it's crap, but X is going away Real Soon Now
[17:40] <Tex_Nick> i've used "Real VNC Free Version" for years for remote desktop connectivity ... "Real VNC Free Server" is NOT stealthy ... users are able to see/control it from the panel indicator ... i want something that will be hidden from the user on the host pc (running as a service maybe rather than an app) ... can someone point me in a good direction ... 13.04 host & 13.04 client
[17:41] <Arkhanos> gordonjcp: Serious?
[17:41] <dime2k12> anyone got an idea why my gamepad gets recognized as 4 Axis 1 Hat when xinit is started as root and with 6 Axis 0 Hat when done the same as user?
[17:43] <theadmin> Arkhanos: Yes, 13.10 is planning to switch to Ubuntu's own graphical server implementation, Mir.
[17:44] <neekz0r> Tex_Nick: you are looking for a back door, go look at some sort of hacker sites or something for that
[17:44] <beclauss> ipv6?
[17:44] <beclauss> How do I do that?
[17:44] <beclauss> I'm new to linux
[17:44] <beclauss> How do I disable ipv6?
[17:44] <beclauss> well sorry for disconnecting
[17:44] <beclauss> how do I disable ipv6?
[17:45] <Tex_Nick> neekz0r:  it's to keep an eye what rthe grandkids and about a dozen neighbor kids are doing on the gameroon PC
[17:45] <beclauss> considering I keep disconnecting
[17:46] <neekz0r> Tex_Nick: if that is your goal, put a sniffer box between the computer and the internet, then you can watch the internet traffic
[17:47] <neekz0r> otherwise, find a back door
[17:48] <Tex_Nick> neekz0r:  before you send someone away from the channel ... you might find out what it is they want to do ... i use wireshark but that wasn't the question
[17:48] <neekz0r> i wasn't sending you away
[17:48] <beclauss> its not that
[17:48] <beclauss> its that when I'm on windows
[17:48] <veninem> hello to everyone
[17:49] <veninem> is there someone could help me about a problem with my soundcard configuration
[17:49] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I extract bunch of files with the .txt.bz2 extension?
[17:49] <veninem> thanks in advance pm me
[17:49] <neekz0r> you are asking for something that ubuntu wouldn't natively support, as it's considered a backdoor, your motivations for it were and are irrelvant
[17:50] <neekz0r> i simply told you that you'd have to find something like that at a hacker site, and all that that entails
[17:50] <beclauss> I have no issues with connecting to the internet
[17:50] <beclauss> on Linux, no  matter what distro I use
[17:50] <beclauss> I keep going on and off
[17:50] <s3ed> veninem ask in the channel and if anyone knows they will answer dont expect /msg
[17:51]  * s3ed takes out his aggrevation about the reali life, as an annoyance from continuous disconnects of Mad)Wack
[17:51] <gordonjcp> Arkhanos: serious about what?
[17:51] <theadmin> mojtaba: That's likely a compressed text file. The extension doesn't really tell anything, but you can bunzip2 it, if it really is a bzip2 archive.
[17:52] <veninem> does anyone know how to fix my SPDIF output?
[17:52] <beclauss> what do you guys mean?
[17:53] <mojtaba> theadmin: I am a newbie, actually I have many files with that extension and I would like to extract them with one command at once.
[17:53] <beclauss> its just
[17:53] <niccaballs> Can anyone help me with a problem getting GUI running on a VPS
[17:53] <beclauss> do u guys know of a wifi driver I can use?
[17:53] <beclauss> plz help here
[17:53] <theadmin> mojtaba: bunzip2 file1.txt.bz2 file2.txt.bz2 ...
[17:53] <Arkhanos> beclauss: there is hope
[17:53] <theadmin> mojtaba: Or bunzip2 *.txt.bz2
[17:53] <beclauss> how so?
[17:54] <UltimaKR> Hi I just installed lubuntu but cannot connect to the internet.  I input the settings for my router but don't know what to do from there can anybody please help me?
[17:54] <mojtaba> theadmin: Thanks, the last one is better.
[17:54] <mojtaba> :)
[17:54] <niccaballs> xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O
[17:54] <Arkhanos> Use a wired to wireless modem
[17:54] <beclauss> I don't have that option
[17:54] <niccaballs> shows when I try to run X -configure
[17:54] <beclauss> its just that I need a good wifi driver that works just as good as it does in windows
[17:55] <beclauss> I shouldn't need to go close to the router just to connect this properly
[17:55] <Shogoot>  Hi people! I got this xml file http://pastebin.com/CiSCRMgD and my code does this: http://pastebin.com/i2Mkwts1 the first part of echoing OrderNumber i very much in order, but echoing the attribute i cant get to wrok. Anyone that can help me troubleshoot this? :)
[17:55] <beclauss> what should I do in this case Arkhanos?
[17:55] <yashh> will backup store my files after installing new ubuntu???
[17:55] <Arkhanos> beclauss: you can find good wifi usb sticks on google for linux
[17:55] <Arkhanos> Usb sticks for linux
[17:56] <beclauss> true
[17:56] <beclauss> I know
[17:56] <beclauss> FYI, I'm using a laptop
[17:56] <beclauss> Toshiba Sattelite L775D-S7222
[17:57] <Arkhanos> Hmm
[17:57] <Arkhanos> Well, I stul
[17:57] <Arkhanos> Still reccomend a USB stick
[17:57] <UltimaKR> Arkhanos: I am a new linux user so could you possibly tell me how to connect to the internet on lubuntu?  I input the SSID and WPA key on the Network Manager but what do I do after that?
[17:57] <beclauss> How can I find what internal wifi card I have in my laptop
[17:57] <Arkhanos> UltimaKR
[17:57] <yashh> hello guys!!!answer pls
[17:58] <Pwngwn> I accidentally clicked on a program that reads text on my screen out loud. How do I turn it off?
[17:58] <llutz_> beclauss: "lsusb" or "lspci" should tell you
[17:58] <REVO-F> yashh, what's wrong?
[17:58] <beclauss> type that in terminal right?
[17:58] <Arkhanos> You can also in the menu bar find a picto to search for wifi
[17:58] <jmurrib21> How can I install ubuntu 13.04 in a new PC [HP p2-1334 AMD E1-1200]? I've tried to install from a DVD, from a bootable USB pendrive and I'm getting a blank black screen after selecting the option to install the OS.
[17:58] <yashh> heres the question " will backup store my files after installing new ubuntu???"
[17:59] <UltimaKR> Arkhanos: Is that for me or for beclauss? If me then which menu bar?
[17:59] <Shogoot>  Hi people! I got this xml file http://pastebin.com/CiSCRMgD and my code does this: http://pastebin.com/i2Mkwts1 the first part of echoing OrderNumber i very much in order, but echoing the attribute i cant get to wrok. Anyone that can help me troubleshoot this? :)
[17:59] <UltimaKR> Hi I just installed lubuntu but cannot connect to the internet.  I input the settings for my router but don't know what to do from there can anybody please help me?
[18:00] <beclauss> ok
[18:00] <beclauss> I'll take it from here
[18:00] <beclauss> thanks
[18:00] <s3ed> Mad_Wack annoys me
[18:00] <Pwngwn>  I accidentally clicked on a program that reads text on my screen out loud. How do I turn it off?
[18:01] <s3ed> turn the speakers off
[18:01] <REVO-F> yashh, if you upgrade ubuntu your files will not be affected
[18:01] <m1chael> Pwngwn: did you try to reboot?
[18:01] <yashh> what if i download seperately and install??
[18:01] <Pwngwn> No, s3ed, I still want to listen to music
[18:01] <Pwngwn> No, but is there any easier way?
[18:01] <Pwngwn> Like a task manager maybe?
[18:02] <jmurrib21> somebody recommended me to find answers in this topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 but i don't know how to access grub from a pc that doesn't have linux/ubuntu installed
[18:02] <m1chael> ps aux
[18:02] <REVO-F> yashh, I think nothing will happen
[18:02] <m1chael> i would just reboot if i couldnt figure out what process it was (its not like you gave us a lot of info- like what the program name was, etc.)
[18:02] <dime2k12> anyone got an idea why xinit recognizes my gamepad hat as 2 axis when launched from non root user?
[18:02] <yashh> more clarity please?
[18:03] <Pwngwn> I can't remember the name but I believe it was already installed by default
[18:03] <Pwngwn> Rebooting is like surrendering. I can't do that
[18:03] <REVO-F> yashh, you're files will not be affected
[18:03] <yashh> by backing up right?
[18:04] <REVO-F> yep
[18:04] <Pwngwn> I just figured out it's called Orca Screen Reader
[18:04] <yashh> thanks revo dude
[18:04] <REVO-F> wlc :)
[18:04] <A1Recon> Hey there's this audio i wanna download, so I was wondering if anyone could help me download this with wget http://www.ujam.com/contests/acrevelations
[18:04] <niccaballs> I am having an issue running a GUI on a VPS. I am getting an error xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O when I try to run X -configure.
[18:04] <s3ed> Pwngu try killall gnome-orca
[18:05] <Pwngwn> thanks i will
[18:05] <th0r> A1Recon, open a terminal and type 'wget http://........'
[18:06] <A1Recon> th0r: well the it will just download the webpage, i want just the audio...
[18:06] <s3ed> cant someone ban Mad_Wack, until he gets back to his screen?
[18:06] <th0r> A1Recon, then you need the url of the audio file
[18:07]  * jmurrib21 How can I install ubuntu 13.04 in a new PC [HP p2-1334 AMD E1-1200]? I've tried to install from a DVD, from a bootable USB pendrive and I'm getting a blank black screen after selecting the option to install the OS.
[18:07] <A1Recon> th0r: That's exactly what i am trying to find in the page's html code
[18:07] <niccaballs> Can anyone assist me?
[18:07]  * jmurrib21 somebody recommended me to find answers in this topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 but i don't know how to access grub from a pc that doesn't have linux/ubuntu installed
[18:07] <darthanubis> niccaballs, ask your question to find out
[18:07] <niccaballs> I am having an issue running a GUI on a VPS. I am getting an error xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O when I try to run X -configure.
[18:07] <toprunner> !list
[18:07] <darthanubis> jmurrib21, use a livecd
[18:08] <jmurrib21> yes
[18:08] <jmurrib21> i have a live cd
[18:08] <jmurrib21> i created from the ISO image
[18:08] <toprunner> ciao
[18:08] <toprunner> aiuto
[18:09] <Shogoot>   Hi people! I got this xml file http://pastebin.com/CiSCRMgD and my code does this: http://pastebin.com/i2Mkwts1 the first part of echoing OrderNumber i very much in order, but echoing the attribute i cant get to wrok. Anyone that can help me troubleshoot this? :)
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> jmurrib21, Look at live cd option f6 nomodeset
[18:09] <userr> i installed konsole, which triggered the installation of most of kde but i still don't get it as an alternative session in lightdm
[18:09] <userr> what do i need to do to see something like "kde-session" available?
[18:10] <niccaballs> I am having an issue running a GUI on a VPS. I am getting an error xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O when I try to run X -configure.
[18:10] <Arkhanos> userr: You usually see it in the login screen
[18:10] <pratz_> Hell guys
[18:10] <userr> Arkhanos: lightdm doesn't show it
[18:10] <A1Recon> th0r: Can you help me find its code??
[18:11] <A1Recon> ^url
[18:11] <th0r> A1Recon, are you familiar with the idea of a drive-by virus or trojan?
[18:11] <userr> Arkhanos: what kde package should i install to be sure that i have the kde *session* essentials>?
[18:11] <niccaballs> Noone?
[18:11] <jmurrib21> i don't have that option wilee-nilee
[18:11] <A1Recon> th0r: No
[18:11] <Arkhanos> userr: hmm, i don't know what to do else
[18:11] <REVO-F> jmurrib21, try to use another .iso file
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> jmurrib21, You using a disc? or a loaded usb?
[18:12] <niccaballs> wilee-nilee, he said both
[18:12] <th0r> A1Recon, suffice it to say visiting an unknown url from an irc chat channel isn't the greatest idea.
[18:12] <jmurrib21> i have tried both wilee-nilee
[18:13] <niccaballs> th0r, I second that
[18:13] <pratz_> how can i check the bandwidth of my home router ?
[18:13] <jmurrib21> i got to go
[18:13] <jmurrib21> try this again later
[18:13] <pratz_> 3 computer are connected to it
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> jmurrib21, Check the md5sum, you should be getting the gui options shown. the unetbootin usb loader however bypasses this gui however.
[18:13] <niccaballs> prats, google the model number
[18:13] <A1Recon> th0r: the url's fine its an awesome song.... If you want you can google it "Sicarius - Ujam".
[18:13] <pratz_> and I am using U-12.04 and other machines are windows
[18:15] <Arkhanos> pratz: You can google for internet speed tests
[18:15] <A1Recon> pratz_: What router do u have and what firmware are u running on it?
[18:16] <A1Recon> th0r: U in??
[18:16] <niccaballs> prats, are you looking for the bandwidth of your internet or your router?
[18:16] <th0r> A1Recon, I think I already answered the question.
[18:17] <pratz_> A1Recon: router is beetel and what exactly you mean by firmware ?
[18:17] <pratz_> niccaballs: both
[18:17] <lousygarua> Hi, I'm helping some guy who is getting random system freezes after upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 (also 12.10 and 13.04). He can Alt+Ctrl+F1 to a tty and when getting back to GUI he sees the desktop but no sidebar and such. He got an intel graphics card but I'm not sure if it's the issue. Is it? How can I help him debug this?
[18:18] <Arkhanos> pratz_: The firmware is the software built in a piece of hardware
[18:18] <A1Recon> pratz_: The OS/firmware of the router. Like my router is running its stock "version 1.4 " software
[18:18] <niccaballs> lousygarua, I am having the same issue!!!
[18:19] <pratz_> A1Recon: I am not sure how to find that
[18:19] <lousygarua> niccaballs, I have seen #993187 this, it's a 'fix released', so maybe an update to the system can fix it. Do yuo have the latest update?
[18:19] <A1Recon> pratz_: Make and model of the router??
[18:19] <lousygarua> niccaballs, *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/993187
[18:19] <OerHeks> lousygarua, niccaballs install ccsm compiz setting manager, and see if unity pligin is enabled, this issue occurs sometimes after upgrade
[18:19] <OerHeks> *plugin
[18:19] <A1Recon> pratz_: u can use " iftop " in Terminal...
[18:20] <pratz_> A1Recon: Beetel 450 BXI ADSL2 + Router
[18:20] <mark12> hello
[18:21] <pratz_> A1Recon: I already tried iftop  , but if show only my machines bandwidth
[18:21] <A1Recon> pratz_: or open up "system monitor" in Ubuntu(search your PC for it). For windows you can use this neat little program called "Networx".
[18:21] <A1Recon> pratz_: May I PM u??
[18:21] <lousygarua> OerHeks, niccaballs, is this only after upgrade? because my user reported the error happening also on a live USB (13.04)
[18:22] <pratz_> A1Recon: ya sure
[18:22] <niccaballs> lousygarua, well all I see when logging in via VNC is my background and no sidebar. I have yet to see the side bar
[18:22] <niccaballs> lousygarua, I am running on a VPS
[18:23] <lousygarua> niccaballs, hmm I think I had this issue myself a year ago! i now recall it. ended up using 11.10 because it was a work computer and i had to.. work
[18:23] <mark12> can someone help i recently had trouble when i use ubuntu in virtualbox or vmware player on my connection status show mulital connection like connected to vbox and vmware host as a connect
[18:24] <niccaballs> lousygarua, I have fixed this issue once before but for the life of me I can't remember how.
[18:24] <mark12> oops mulipal connections
[18:24] <niccaballs> lousygarua, I have got it running on 12.04 but I upgraded and now have the same issue
[18:24] <UltimaKR> Hi I just installed lubuntu but cannot connect to the internet.  I input the settings for my router but don't know what to do from there can anybody please help me?
[18:24] <netlar> I have booted a few times now and the computer keeps getting stuck on the splash screen, what can I do?
[18:25] <lousygarua> niccaballs, might it be a kernel issue? I see some comment on the bug report where the guy's solution was a kernel upgrade
[18:25] <netlar> Do I need to reinstall the OS again?
[18:25] <niccaballs> lousygarua, how do I upgrade the kernel, sorry for my ignorance
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> !details > netlar
[18:26] <mark12> did you any read my question?
[18:26] <netlar> wilee-nilee: those are the whole details
[18:26] <MrVlidior> Hello, anyone can help me with dual booting windows from a different hard drive!?
[18:26] <lousygarua> niccaballs, do you think I know how? :), I'm not sure if it's a good idea to compile your own kernel under ubuntu, maybe there's a ppa?
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> UltimaKR, Identify the onboard hardware and type off connection you are trying, ethernet or wifi.
[18:27] <netlar> wilee-nilee: I push the power button on computer and it gets stuck on the Ubuntu splash screen
[18:27] <lousygarua> niccaballs, did you try 13.04? it should have an updated kernel following common sense
[18:27] <niccaballs> lousygarua, that is what I am using
[18:27] <UltimaKR> wilee-nilee: I would prefer to do this on wifi.
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> netlar, Fresh install, after messing with it, you description has no real information.
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> UltimaKR, identify the wifi card, lspci in the terminal list hardware.
[18:28] <netlar> wilee-nilee Messing with it? I did an install, worked yesterday, now not
[18:29] <lousygarua> niccaballs, 13.04 uses 3.8.8 which is rather new
[18:29] <bleemoo> I'm running 13.04. My housemates have Windows boxen. Whenever I am online, my housemates lose wifi. Is there something I can do about that?
[18:29] <lousygarua> so maybe it's not a kernel issue
[18:29] <UltimaKR> wilee-nilee: Sorry for my stupidity, but how do I tell what wifi card I have without opening the machine? It's on right now.  I already input the SSID and WPA key for the router but it don't know where to go to tell it to connect.
[18:30] <lousygarua> niccaballs, can you try the solution with the ccsm?
[18:30] <niccaballs> lousygarua, I have to go but will be back in about 15 mins
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> UltimaKR, lspci in the terminal should show wifi oinfo.
[18:31] <UltimaKR> wilee-nilee: I'm sorry but what terminal? I am brand new to linux, just trying to salvage an old PC.
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | netlar this is a low graphic boot.
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> UltimaKR, ctrl-alt-t should show a terminal. lubuntu has a menu LOOK AT IT.
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> UltimaKR, I would think the network connection in lubuntu is on the bottom panel on the right.
[18:36] <UltimaKR> wilee-nilee: For some reason I only have a clock and volume control.  It appears as though I'm running an Accton SMC2.
[18:37] <riddrib> How can download .pdf format in this page http://issuu.com/tsunami2807/docs/healthycoffee?mode=window&backgroundColor=%23222222
[18:38] <netlar> how can I try to fix this with the install disk?
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> UltimaKR, I have not used lubuntu is a long while so I'm not sure where the network manager is, There is a #lubuntu channel if you like.
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> s/in
[18:38] <mark12> can someone help?
[18:39] <MrVlidir> I am dual booting Vista and Ubuntu 12.10 from the same hard drive, now i want to move ubuntu to a second hard drive, anyone can help?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> mark12, people help when the know, details are important.
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> they*
[18:40] <netlar> I was able to boot in recovery mode, but now it is stuck on that screen
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> MrVlidir, Clonezilla
[18:40] <mark12> my problem is inportant
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> mark12, Sure, however you can't force people to know what they don't, this is free help.
[18:41] <netlar> It went to fsck utility, now it is just a flashing cursor
[18:41] <mark12> ok
[18:42] <MrVlidir> wilee- i dont want to clone the disk, i moved the ubuntu partition  to a second hard drive and i want to boot it from there. That is 1st hard drive for Vista, and the 2nd for ubuntu'
[18:42] <DJones> !details | mark12
[18:42] <MrVlidir> i followed the steps here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition  but im stuck at step 5!
[18:42] <netlar> Can this be fixed in the root prompt?
[18:43] <UltimaKR> wilee-nilee: It doesn't look like anybody is actively online in the lubuntu channel.  Do you have any siggestions?
[18:43] <DJones> mark12: I can see you asked a question, but it was 20 minutes ago, the people in the channel will have changed since then and you probably need to repeat the question so that they can see it
[18:43] <mark12> problem is when i run virtualbox or vmware player my connection status shows iam connected to virtualbox or vmware
[18:43] <A1Recon> wilee-nilee: can I PM you??
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, I don't pm.
[18:44] <netlar> OK, I am in the root prompt, what should I do from here?
[18:45] <UltimaKR> wilee-nilee: Ok i figured out how to get the "nm-applet" to appear but how do I actually connect to a network that I input?
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> UltimaKR, This thread has some info. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1273295
[18:47] <netlar> Do I need to go to the login from here?
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> UltimaKR, I don't know lubuntu, nor do I have the patience to really help you in this way.
[18:48] <netlar> Ok went to login from the command prompt, says there is 1 package that needs to be updated
[18:48] <netlar> Do I update it?
[18:50] <ceil> is it possible to unmount home in ubuntu's repair shell? I'm trying to shrink the lvm partition /dev/mapper/rowan-home and grow /dev/mapper/rowan-root but i can't unmount the home drive to e2fsck/resize2fs/lvreduce it. help?
[18:50] <JSF> Does anyone have any expierence with SNMP? I configure it like this but I do not seem to get a response with V2c and the set community http://www.observium.org/wiki/NetSNMPd_Client_Configuration
[18:50] <l0ll0lll> hi all. How can I get CC'ed by default to a package's bug reports on launchpad?
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> ceil, You want to resize with the whole thing unmounted use a live disc.
[18:52] <netlar> Can anyone help me?
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> ceil, And make sure you know what you are doing that s encrypted right?
[18:53] <A1Recon> wilee-nilee: OK say i want an audio on a webpage through wget. how will i find its url ??
[18:54] <netlar> It will not let me do apt-get update, says it cannot get packages
[18:54] <replaceits> wget <urlofaudio> ? what exactly do you mean?
[18:54] <netlar> Man, I really do not want to get a fresh install again
[18:54] <l0ll0lll> A1Recon: depends on how it's represented in the page. You can try viewing its HTML source and find the URL there
[18:55] <|Slacker|> dang! I try to upgrade steam but it keeps me giving the untrusted package message, how to fix this?
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> ceil, some more info, use at your own discretion. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1537569
[18:55] <REVO-F> netlar, what's wrong?
[18:55] <netlar> REVO-F: I cannot boot up
[18:56] <netlar> Keeps bringing me to grub screen
[18:57] <netlar> REVO-F: I have tried to go to recovery mode and that does nothing
[18:57] <amrit_> interesting old style chat
[18:58] <netlar> REVO-F: I have read that you can do a apt-get update to fix the problem from the command prompt
[18:58] <A1Recon> l0ll0lll: What formats are the audio encoded?? mp3/wav?
[18:58] <wdonkey> hello ubuntu people !!!
[18:59] <netlar> REVO-F: But it says it cannot get the packages
[18:59] <wdonkey> how do you shutdown the gui and reboot it ?
[18:59] <wdonkey> without rebooting the whole damn thing
[18:59] <netlar> wdonkey: me?
[18:59] <wdonkey> yeah you
[18:59] <netlar> wdonkey: I use the menu on the gui
[18:59] <wdonkey> anyone if that matters !
[18:59] <wdonkey> ...
[19:00] <ceil> wilee-nilee: non-encrypted, and i unplugged my optical drive and lost my usb stick. i'm havin' to rough it. it was pointed out to me that i have other drives mounted within ~ causing the issue. cheers tho o/
[19:00] <wdonkey> im hoping for the command line
[19:00] <netlar> wdonkey: but sometimes that hangs too and I have to shut down power manually
[19:00] <juniour> hi
[19:00] <juniour> hi
[19:00] <juniour> hu ubuntu xx.xx
[19:00] <REVO-F> netlar Your grub conf file should have a bunch of stuff in it including a long list of kernels.
[19:00] <REVO-F> Are you seeing any of that in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[19:00] <wdonkey> netlar : next time try ctrl alt F1 and type sudo shutdown -h now
[19:01] <juniour> can any one explain me hot to set up mail server to send mail
[19:01] <l0ll0lll> A1Recon: this will depend on the site. This may be mp3, wav, ogg, something else. Even swf...
[19:01] <shortstraw8> What is the most best format for hard drives to use Ubuntu? I have two old hard drives that I want to format and use as removable drives.
[19:01] <netlar> REVO-F: I am at the recovery menu in grub
[19:01] <wdonkey> shortstraw8, ext3 or 4
[19:02] <replaceits> ^
[19:02] <juniour> shortstraw8 ext4
[19:02] <shortstraw8> Ok that is what I have read just wanted another opinion.
[19:02] <replaceits> speaking of formating, what would be the best for a live usb with persistance? i tryed ext4 and the performance was unusable
[19:02] <juniour> how to set up mail server to send mail ???
[19:03] <shortstraw8> juniour, wdonkey  Thanks
[19:03] <wdonkey> shortstraw8, if you want to use those drives on a windows machine, use ntsf
[19:03] <BluesKaj> NTFS maybe ?
[19:03] <netlar> REVO-F: I see resume, clean, dpkg, failsafes, fsck, grip, network, root, system-summary
[19:04] <REVO-F> netlar, check this out http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/236673-50-cannot-boot-ubuntu-stuck-memtest-grub
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> shortstraw8, Can you determine install partitions and ones you would want to share between OS's
[19:05] <wdonkey> BluesKaj, whatever
[19:05] <juniour>  shortstraw8 if you use ext3,4 you cant use it with windows but if you ntfs you can use it with both ubuntu and windows
[19:06] <wad> I upgraded my wife's laptop's Ubuntu from some older version to 12.04 32-bit desktop, but it gave an error with grub, and now it won't boot to Linux anymore.
[19:06] <BluesKaj> REVO-F, that's for legacy grub
[19:06] <juniour> wad always do clean install
[19:07] <netlar> REVO-F: guess it is time for me to try another distro
[19:07] <wad> juniour, really?
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> wad, Is this a fresh install or an actual upgrade?
[19:07] <juniour> wad upgrading from older version always create problems
[19:07] <wad> It's an upgrade
[19:07] <wad> Not a fresh install.
[19:07] <netlar> I love ubuntu, but man this would be my fourth fresh install
[19:08] <luanstark> ubuntu shnow
[19:08] <juniour> netlar it happened with ubuntu
[19:08] <luanstark> show*
[19:08] <wad> If I do a real fresh install, though, do I need to reformat the partition to get it right? I'd rather not lose all my wife's documents and photos and stuff....
[19:08] <luanstark> I am happened ubuntu
[19:08] <netlar> juniour: huh?
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> !grub | wad post the bootinfo summary from the bootrepair tool
[19:08] <wad> If I don't reformat the partition, then relics of the old OS will still be hanging around, right?
[19:08] <luanstark> #Canonical show
[19:08] <luanstark> exit
[19:09] <juniour> wad just boot wiht live cd make backup and then install in the sam partition
[19:09] <wad> juniour, okay, that's a good idea. Then I can bring it up to 13.x or whatever.
[19:09] <replaceits> wad, if you have enough space you can create a new parition move the documents to it, fresh install, then retrieve them delete the paririon and resize
[19:09] <juniour> wad yep
[19:09] <wad> Allright, thanks guys.
[19:10] <wad> I'll do this stuff.
[19:10] <netlar> REVO-F: I need practice at installing linux anyway lol
[19:12] <netlar> I know you are guys are trying to help, maybe hardware or user errors, but things are a bit touch and go with ubuntu
[19:13] <Kaydawg> l
[19:13] <juniour> hi can any one check why i am getting this error http://pastebin.com/E6TqU5xd
[19:15] <OerHeks> juniour, what are you trying to install, samba4 ? and how do you do that?
[19:15] <juniour> ahhh i resolved the prob any way thanks
[19:15] <OerHeks> oh oke
[19:16] <yofun> is there any way to play my music from my speakers to my mic?
[19:16] <yofun> output to input loop
[19:17] <juniour> yofun dident got you
[19:17] <tux30> hi i want install team viewer on ubuntu 12,04 tls and a got a error
[19:18] <juniour> tux30 wts the error
[19:18] <juniour> ??
[19:18] <yofun> i want my output (speakers) go to my input (mic)
[19:18] <netlar> Ok, I am doing a fresh install again
[19:18] <yofun> i have a head set that i wear
[19:18] <tux30> verification of team viewer version failed
[19:18] <NuSuey> Can somebody help? After install of the Nvidia.run file I get a black screen. Can login onz with a older kernel. And can't see unity interface in it..help me:/
[19:18] <netlar> Is there official documentation for me to read so I do not have an more user erros
[19:19] <juniour> tux30 how have you installed team viewer
[19:19] <OerHeks> yofun no, you cannot change hardware with a software solution.
[19:19] <tux30> yes but when start teamviewer i have this error
[19:20] <Guest33752> I am a newb just installed ubuntu and trying to get my programs back on my computer am stuck with a couple I am having trouble with. does anyone  know how i can get my Mystery Case FIles games installed from the discs?
[19:20] <juniour> tux30 how you installed team viewer???
[19:20] <NuSuey> Just need to go back to the software sources ..and uninstall the new .run settings
[19:20] <tux30> i have installed whit gdebi installer
[19:21] <juniour> tux30 like this dpkg -i package
[19:21] <pure> Guest33752: Is Mystery Case Files made for linux or is it for a different platform?
[19:22] <juniour> tux30 download team viewer from here http://www.teamviewer.com/hi/download/linux.aspx
[19:22] <Atlantic777> Anyone having troubless with monodevelop in raring=
[19:22] <Atlantic777> ?
[19:22] <juniour> tux30 then dpkg -i package-path   what you have downloaded
[19:22] <Guest33752> it is a windows game from Big Fish Games I was told I could install with Wine tried and when I try to install the install screen stalls and freezes and no matter wich window i bring up it always stays on top
[19:23] <zastaph> anyone using ThinkPad Edge E130 for Ubuntu ?
[19:23] <netlar> So there are no books for Ubuntu
[19:24] <Atlantic777> netlar: what do you want to learn?
[19:24] <Ben66> there are tons of books
[19:24] <netlar> How not to f up my system
[19:24] <juniour> netlar just google it
[19:24] <thecodeischaos> look on amazon
[19:24] <thecodeischaos> there are dozens
[19:24] <Ben66> NuSuey: if you install nvidia from the website, you'll run into problems like you're having when theres a kernel update
[19:24] <netlar> No recommendations?
[19:25] <tux30> traitement error of teamviewer_linux.deb
[19:25] <Ben66> !manual | netlar
[19:25] <pure> Guest33752: WineHQ shows that it should install in Wine. Has it stalled mulitple times without an error message?
[19:26] <juniour> tux30 your system si 32 or 64
[19:26] <tux30> 32
[19:26] <Guest33752> I just get that screen freeze no error message unless it hiding underneath and my hot corner doesn't even move it
[19:27] <netlar> Maybe I should be installing the 64 bit Ubuntu?
[19:27] <juniour> tux try with sudo dpkg -i package-name
[19:27] <Ben66> netlar: if you have a 64bit cpu, yes
[19:27] <Tux> Hello!
[19:27] <tux30> same error
[19:27] <netlar> Ben66: I do, does installing the 32 bit version on a 64 bit machine cause problems?
[19:27] <yofun> gst-launch pulsesrc ! pulsesink  echoes my mic to my speakers
[19:27] <juniour> tux30 paste the whole error
[19:28] <yofun> but it doesnt work the other way?
[19:28] <Tux> Reminds me: I need to repair my desktop -- crashed during update and now boots to kernel panic
[19:28] <Tux> I know how to fix it though
[19:28] <pure> Guest33752: If it isn't showing an error, it's going to be very difficult to troubleshoot
[19:28] <Ben66> netlar: no problems, you just can't utilize your cpu to the fullest
[19:29] <juniour> netlar but you can maxmize with 64 bit
[19:29] <netlar> Ben66: Darn, was hoping that may of been the reason for all my reinstalls I have had to do
[19:29] <pure> Guest33752: There may be a way to install it in wine using the command line, which might give you more output so you know what is going on. You'd have to google it though because it's a little outside of my limited experience.
[19:29] <Ben66> !appdb | Guest33752
[19:30] <pure> Guest33752: Also, if you're on a PC, try using the windows key as well. It's a keyboard shortcut that may work if yourhot corner isn't responding.
[19:30] <ResQue> how can i test my harddrive for errors? I want to test things like read/write speed, bad sectors, also how many times the harddrive is reading data incorrectly
[19:30] <Ben66> netlar: what are you doing to break your system so often?
[19:30] <yofun> gst-launch pulsesrc ! pulsesink  echoes my mic to my speakers
[19:30] <yofun> but it doesnt work the other way?
[19:30] <netlar> Ben66:  shutdown problems
[19:31] <Ben66> ResQue: the "Disk Utility" can do that
[19:31] <netlar> Ben66: sometimes the machine will hang durning shutdown and I have to power the machine down manually
[19:32] <Guest33752> I am currenty trying again to look for any messages I think it might be working this time I will find out shortly
[19:32] <juniour> ResQue you can use this to read hard disk speed sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda
[19:32] <Ben66> netlar: ok... that shouldn't cause it to break
[19:32] <An_Ony_Moose> is there a file that defines all the MIME types that the system can recognise? /usr/share/applications/mimeapps.list (and ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list and /usr/local/[etc]) don't seem to contain all those that nautilus etc seem to recognise.
[19:32] <mths> Alguém que fala português aí?
[19:32] <Ben66> !br | mths
[19:32] <netlar> Ben66: well he makes it go to grup screen
[19:32] <ResQue> Ben66: thanks
[19:32] <netlar> grub*
[19:32] <tux30> juniour the commande sudo dpkg -i package have pass
[19:32] <tux30> after ?
[19:33] <juniour> tux30 yep that is your root passs you must provide
[19:33] <tux30> yes
[19:33] <bekks> juniour: No. Root has no password.
[19:34] <bekks> !root
[19:34] <netlar> I know I am being kind a pest here, sorry
[19:34] <juniour> bekks kkk
[19:34] <juniour> yaaa
[19:34] <tj83_KIDS> its not the ubuntu way but a" sudo su - " will get you to #
[19:34] <Ben66> tj83_KIDS: don't suggest that
[19:34] <juniour> bekks i was tellin him for sudo
[19:34] <pure> Where can I find a command list for ubottu?
[19:35] <tux30> after the commande a get (Lecture de la base de données... 185847 fichiers et répertoires déjà installés.)
[19:35] <tux30> Préparation du remplacement de teamviewer 8.0.17147 (en utilisant teamviewer.deb) ...
[19:35] <tux30> wine: /home/maxime/.config/teamviewer8 is not owned by you
[19:35] <tux30> Dépaquetage de la mise à jour de teamviewer ...
[19:35] <tux30> Paramétrage de teamviewer (8.0.17147) ...
[19:35] <FloodBot1> tux30: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <juniour> tux30 english that language i cant understand bro
[19:35] <juniour> tux30 use pastebin
[19:35] <yofun> gst-launch pulsesrc ! pulsesink  echoes my mic to my speakers
[19:36] <netlar> amd Athlon 64 xx dual core processor, that means I have a 64 bit computer right?
[19:36] <yofun> but it doesnt work the other way?
[19:36] <Ben66> netlar: correct
[19:36] <An_Ony_Moose> yofun: how is it supposed to work the other way?
[19:36] <juniour> bekks wt about su
[19:36] <t4nk825> hello, can anybody please help me find the image-line folder in ubuntu??
[19:36] <bekks> netlar: if you see a "lm" flag in cat /proc/cpuinfo you have a 64bit capable cpu.
[19:36] <Ben66> juniour: shouldn't use su
[19:36] <bekks> juniour: What about it?
[19:37] <yofun> well that echoes my mic to my speakers but what about my speakers to my mic An_Ony_Moose
[19:37] <juniour> Ben66 i diden't got you
[19:37] <Ben66> yofun: you can't output on mic...
[19:37] <An_Ony_Moose> yofun: you want feedback? You'd have to hold up the mic to the speakers...
[19:37] <t4nk825> can anybody please help me find the image-line folder in ubuntu??
[19:37] <toastcfh> hello
[19:37] <Ben66> juniour: "su" should not be used
[19:38] <toastcfh> alsa doesnt seem to see hdmi as a ausio out
[19:38] <yofun> An_Ony_Moose:  no i wear a headset
[19:38] <toastcfh> since 13.04
[19:38] <bekks> t4nk825: Whats an "image-line" folder?
[19:38] <yofun> An_Ony_Moose:  and i wanted my music to play to my mic (skype)
[19:38] <tj83_KIDS> Ben66, i think he got the hint.  I am a redhat man.
[19:38] <Solstick> goood bye all :-D
[19:38] <replaceits> t4nk try locate image-line
[19:38] <juniour> Ben66 but i think su will grant root prev
[19:39] <t4nk825> it should be under program files/image-line
[19:39] <Ben66> juniour: no, root has no password by default
[19:39] <yofun> Ben66:  i mean i wear a headset and i want to echo my output to my input for skype
[19:39] <replaceits> t4nk: so in the windows parition?
[19:39] <An_Ony_Moose> yofun: oooooh. Open the volume control, go to the "recording" tab. While skype is in a call it should show skype
[19:40] <juniour> Ben66 i know that root dosent have any password by default
[19:40] <Ben66> juniour: the effect of that is to make "su" not work, because there isn't a password that you can type in to get root
[19:40] <An_Ony_Moose> juniour: in ubuntu you're supposed to use sudo to get root privileges and only when you're sure you know what you're doing
[19:40] <t4nk825> it should b under program files i think
[19:40] <yofun> An_Ony_Moose:  that doesnt help me
[19:40] <codepython777> is there a way to put a network bandwidth quota on each user when the network usage reaches above certain threshold? Hopefully something simpler than iptables/tc.
[19:40] <Ben66> t4nk825: in ubuntu there is no "program files"
[19:40] <yofun> gst-launch pulsesrc ! pulsesink
[19:41] <yofun> echos my mic to my speakers
[19:41] <Ben66> yofun: you said that already
[19:41] <bekks> !pm | t4nk825
[19:41] <yofun> but is there a way to echo my speakers to input
[19:41] <Ben66> yofun: you can't output to mic
[19:41] <yofun> Ben66:  like to skype
[19:41] <OerHeks> yofun again, no, you cannot change hardware with a software solution.
[19:41] <t4nk825> i get lost in all the cht
[19:41] <NuSuey> well.. I installed the Nvidia ....run file.. got a black screen, then out of an other kernel (where I didn't had unity, but had no black screen) I installed nvidia-current. now got no black screen but .. NO UNITY :( any idea how to fix it?
[19:41] <Ben66> yofun: An_Ony_Moose is correct, you need to do recording settings
[19:41] <An_Ony_Moose> t4nk825: imageline doesn't seem to be available for linux. Are you sure you're in the right place?
[19:42] <t4nk825> i want to find my installation of fl studio
[19:42] <tj83_KIDS> I could use a few hints. I haven't followed ubuntu for some time. I am setting up a small box for the kids. 12.04  I need to be able to grant printing to kids account by admin password. also any ideas how to kill the launcher dock after login?
[19:42] <yofun> OerHeks:  but  gst-launch pulsesrc ! pulsesink  lets me echo my mic to my speakers isnt there a way to work the other way around?
[19:42] <t4nk825> n it says destination folder is in program files/image-line
[19:42] <Ben66> t4nk825: again, ubuntu doesn't have "program files"
[19:42] <yofun> Ben66:  i see no recording settings
[19:42] <juniour> Ben66 but you can set password for root
[19:42] <t4nk825> yea it does im in it right now
[19:42] <bekks> t4nk825: Ubuntu does not have a folder called "program files".
[19:42] <Ben66> juniour: which is not recommended or supported in this channel
[19:42] <replaceits> t4nk: did you install via wine? or in windows?
[19:43] <qdk_> I found a inconsistency between version of the drbd8-utils package and the installed software in it -> # apt-cache show drbd8-utils | grep -i version && cat /proc/drbd
[19:43] <qdk_> Version: 2:8.4.3-0ubuntu1
[19:43] <qdk_> version: 8.4.2 (api:1/proto:86-101)
[19:43] <airlok> tj83_KIDS: with compiz settings, you could set it to autohide with a really low sensitivity, effectively making it impossible to open
[19:43] <t4nk825> sorry i meant user share
[19:43] <tj83_KIDS> airlok, very good. thank you.
[19:44] <An_Ony_Moose> yofun: http://soundray.org/linus/skype-output.png
[19:44] <bekks> t4nk825: The folder /usr/share is found in your /
[19:44] <replaceits> t4ank: cd /usr/share; ls | grep imageline
[19:44] <yofun> An_Ony_Moose:  but i dont see that
[19:44] <john_doe_jr> I've got a boss who white listened some IP addresses to connect to a certain server....I can connect to the server at work but it appears that my IP address @ home has been white listed...how do I determine if my ISP has been white listed on the Ubuntu server @ work?
[19:44] <An_Ony_Moose> select the monitor for your soundcard and it should echo sound output into your skype call.
[19:44] <t4nk825> when i try to setup my download of fl studio it says destination folder is in program files\image line
[19:44] <bekks> t4nk825: Please stop querying me, I am not giving unasked personal support. You are in the support channel already, please keep your issue in here.
[19:45] <An_Ony_Moose> yofun: did you open the volume control? Is there no recording tab?
[19:45] <yofun> there is not
[19:45] <Ben66> t4nk825: for like the 5th time, ubuntu does not have "program files"
[19:45] <t4nk825> ok but how do i find it then?
[19:45] <t4nk825> i dont know where it is n i tried searching
[19:45] <Ben66> t4nk825: how are you installing it
[19:45] <t4nk825> wine
[19:46] <An_Ony_Moose> t4nk825: your home folder, .wine/drive_c/
[19:46] <Ben66> then it should be in ~/.wine
[19:46] <replaceits> cd ~/.wine/
[19:46] <Ben66> also in the ubuntu menu
[19:46] <airlok> t4nk825: cd ~/.wine/drive_c; ls | grep "image line"
[19:46] <replaceits> ^
[19:46] <yofun> An_Ony_Moose:  [14:46:17] <replac
[19:46] <yofun> ops
[19:46] <Ben66> that won't work
[19:47] <An_Ony_Moose> yofun: could you give me a screenshot or the like?
[19:47] <yofun> An_Ony_Moose:   http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=16o086&s=5
[19:47] <tux30> do you can give the adresse for pastebin
[19:47] <tj83_KIDS> airlok, I switched over accounts, gave it a try and works perfectly. thanks again. have a strategy approach to the printing by password?
[19:47] <An_Ony_Moose> yofun: try the applications tab
[19:48] <dank101> http://askubuntu.com/questions/294490/apt-get-wont-work
[19:48] <yofun> but it doesnt give me the option to change outputs or inputs An_Ony_Moose
[19:48] <dank101> help
[19:48] <yofun> and i want to use my mic and echo my speakers to it at the same time
[19:48] <An_Ony_Moose> yofun: Hang on I'll switch into gnome and see if I can find it
[19:48] <t4nk825> i dont c wine in my home folder or drive c
[19:48] <bekks> t4nk825: It is named .wine
[19:49] <bekks> t4nk825: cd ~/.wine
[19:49] <replaceits> you wont see it if youre using the gui
[19:49] <t4nk825> im actually in my windows directory cuz im using wine, how do i get out? i cant do cd
[19:49] <airlok> tj83_KIDS: might want to look into changing permissions of the printer's driver to be root only. not sure
[19:50] <tj83_KIDS> ok. I will try to do a group. i like the idea
[19:50] <t4nk825> ok im in wine, now what?
[19:50] <Tex_Nick> if i were to use "Remote Desktop" to monitor grandkids PC ... what viewer/client would i use to connect ... and would that be a good alternative to "Real VNC" ???
[19:50] <tux30> pastebin adress please
[19:51] <An_Ony_Moose> yofun: open a terminal and type in "pavucontrol"
[19:51] <An_Ony_Moose> try changing it via that
[19:51] <yofun> installing
[19:52] <t4nk825> how can i start fl studio from $wine?
[19:52] <airlok> Tex_Nick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC. Also look into tightvnc
[19:52] <john_doe_jr> does anyone know how to white list stuff on ubuntu?
[19:53] <jrib> john_doe_jr: in what context?
[19:53] <compdoc> Tex_Nick, what os is your pc?
[19:54] <Tex_Nick> airloc : thanks for link ... points me in a good direction
[19:54] <Tex_Nick> compdoc : 13.04 for host & client
[19:54] <jrib> john_doe_jr: what exactly do you want to white list?
[19:54] <tux30> juniour: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5659116/plain/
[19:54] <t4nk825> can somebody help me locate my fl studio application?
[19:54] <gerep> Hello world. I just bought Sublime Text 3. How can I search for its folder installation?
[19:55] <jrib> gerep: how did you install it?
[19:55] <t4nk825> wine
[19:55] <gerep> .deb
[19:55] <An_Ony_Moose> t4nk825: open file browser, press ctrl+L. Type in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/
[19:55] <t4nk825> im in $wine right now
[19:55] <An_Ony_Moose> then look for it yourself
[19:55] <gerep> jrib: .deb, downloaded from the page
[19:55] <jrib> gerep: dpkg -L PACKAGE, will tell you.  But why do you care where it installed to?
[19:56] <gerep> jrib: I want to create a alias to call it from my terminal, like: sbl .
[19:56] <gerep> jrib: and it will open the project
[19:56] <t4nk825> ok then what?
[19:56] <jrib> gerep: do you know the command for sublime text?
[19:57] <An_Ony_Moose> t4nk825: then look for it yourself. You should find it froom there.
[19:57] <gerep> jrib: no, when I was using the sublime text 2, I create a link to the application
[19:57] <jrib> gerep: ok, what more information do you need now?
[19:57] <shaktimaan> hi there
[19:57] <tux30> juniour: watch this please http://paste.ubuntu.com/5659116/plain/
[19:57] <gerep> jrib: just that =) thanks for your time and attention ;)
[19:57] <jrib> gerep: no problem :)
[19:57] <t4nk825> its only common files and internet explrer neither of which has it
[19:58] <shaktimaan> has anyone experience with ubuntu-zfs?
[19:58] <yofun> sweet An_Ony_Moose it works
[19:58] <john_doe_jr> jrib: well, my boss said he wanted me to unblock my ISP so I can checkout code off the server but I don't know how...do u?
[19:59] <jrib> john_doe_jr: how was the ip blocked to begin with?
[19:59] <spackalacka> i was trying to set up a 2nd monitor on my thinkpad using the nvidia gui for controlling displays.  the only thing i did was try to enable the second monitor, but this gave an error, so i closed the nvidia tool and my touchpad stopped responding
[19:59] <An_Ony_Moose> yofun: great! Remember to switch back to the microphone later, I tend to forget that and wonder why nobody can hear me :)
[19:59] <spackalacka> if i restart X, i can use the touchpad until about 3 seconds after i login
[19:59] <spackalacka> then it stops again
[19:59] <spackalacka> permanently
[19:59] <spackalacka> a usb mouse will work though
[20:00] <yofun> ha :)
[20:00] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I don't know ...he basically blocked everything and then started allowing certain ISP's..
[20:00] <t4nk825> moose its not here
[20:00] <spackalacka> by permanently, i mean until next X server restart :)
[20:00] <spackalacka> Xorg.0.log shows the synaptics device being found
[20:00] <An_Ony_Moose> t4nk825: then I can't help you sorry.
[20:00] <jrib> john_doe_jr: I assume you mean "IP" and not "ISP".  You should ask him how he blocked them.  If you want a guess, check if you have firewall rules (sudo iptables -L)
[20:00] <zastaph> given http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201206-11170/ and http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201206-11154/ can I safely buy a Thinkpad E130 laptop and expect it to work on Ubuntu?
[20:00] <t4nk825> y would it say destination folder is there if its not?
[20:01] <spackalacka> the touchpad shows up in /proc/bus/input/devices
[20:01] <spackalacka> it's also listed by xinput --list
[20:01] <spackalacka> and it works until login
[20:02] <spackalacka> and it has worked since i got the computer 3 years ago
[20:02] <spackalacka> i'm using the same config xorg config
[20:02] <spackalacka> i'm not sure what is suddenly hijacking the trackpad
[20:02] <A1Recon> how do i access New Volume??
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> !enter | spackalacka
[20:02] <spackalacka> i thought i was done
[20:02] <john_doe_jr> jrib: for some reason my co-worker can commit code and check out code for a subversion repo but I can't....I know I have sudo rights on the server b/c he gave them to me but do you know how I can add myself to the list of people able to checkout code (this is at work so it has nothing to do iptables not at the house)...
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> zastaph, It seems to be certified.
[20:03] <A1Recon> how do i access New Volume??
[20:03] <spackalacka> A1Recon: what is new volume?
[20:03] <MariaKeys> hello all. can someone help with ssh port forwarding?
[20:03] <t4nk825> how do i get to drive c:?
[20:03] <bekks> t4nk825: cd into it.
[20:04] <t4nk825> like (c:)
[20:04] <kucthbhi> is it possible to run compiz without unity ? I am in classic and running compiz--replace removes the window decorations... 12.10
[20:04] <A1Recon> spackalacka: partition in another HDD.
[20:04] <BluesKaj> A1Recon, look in file manager/nautilus places
[20:04] <bekks> t4nk825: There is nothing like "c:" in Ubuntu/Linux. There is ~/.wine/c ...
[20:04] <spackalacka> A1Recon: is it mounted?
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> kucthbhi, compiz -replace is not a command used in 12.10
[20:04] <t4nk825> if im using wine, is it still installing in my ubuntu?
[20:05] <bekks> t4nk825: Sure.
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> kucthbhi, You can use the fusion-icon for restarts, make a launcher.
[20:05] <t4nk825> its not installing in windows?
[20:05] <A1Recon> spackalacka: yes I just want the command to type in Terminal. I know it starts like this cd /media/user/newvolume   but i get confused bcoz of the space..
[20:06] <spackalacka> A1Recon: gotcha, try using tab to auto-complete
[20:06] <kucthbhi> wilee-nilee: tried fusion icon. same result
[20:06] <bekks> t4nk825: No. You have wine, thats not windows.
[20:06] <subcool> if i run the scp command, like scp -C Music/* user@location:folder - will it copy all the Folders from the host?
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> as far as in the fallback not sure kucthbhi
[20:07] <t4nk825> i cant believe its not in my drive c program files when it said thats the dest folder
[20:07] <spackalacka> is there a better place to ask for help with my trackpad issue?  i don't want to file a bug report because it's probably just something in one of my configs that got whacked...
[20:07] <bekks> t4nk825: wine has literally nothing to do with your whatsoever windows installation.
[20:07] <subcool> spackalacka, wherent u having issues last night with mouse and keyboard? on Kubuntu 10?
[20:07] <tux30> i want install teamviewer on ubuntu 12,04 and don't work
[20:07] <t4nk825> its not at all like what the installation said it would be
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> kucthbhi, The fallback is installed with the gnome-shell which uses mutter.
[20:07] <bekks> t4nk825: wine installs everything into ~/.wine
[20:07] <t4nk825> it gave me completely wrong info
[20:07] <subcool> Tux, works for me- just install the .deb
[20:08] <spackalacka> subcool: yes, i'm still having an issue with my trackpad.  never had issues with my keyboard...
[20:08] <bekks> t4nk825: It didnt.
[20:08] <subcool> spackalacka, oh yea- i had issues with the keybard
[20:08] <t4nk825> how come its not in m drive c program files then?
[20:08] <spackalacka> subcool: not kubuntu either.  ubuntu 10.04 with gnome
[20:08] <subcool> spackalacka, have you googled it? i asking in here and go tnothing. it only happened for me after i updated something.. and was trying to do a dist. - upgrade
[20:08] <bekks> t4nk825: Do you read what I write to you?
[20:08] <subcool> same thing.
[20:08] <t4nk825> whats that sorry
[20:08] <tux30> subcool: me a get a error  verification of your teamviewer failed
[20:08] <spackalacka> subcool: yeah, i've googled around, can't find anyone with the same symptom
[20:09] <subcool> spackalacka, i still havent fixed it- and dont care to either. once im done backing it up- which is why im asking about this scp command, im formating and upgrade to 13.
[20:09] <t4nk825> im in $wine right now
[20:09] <subcool> tux30, did u install the right version?
[20:09] <tux30> yes 32bits
[20:10] <subcool> ur positive ur machine is what it is?
[20:10] <t4nk825> but how do i find fl studio from cd~/.wine?
[20:10] <spackalacka> subcool: i'm trying to rock 10.04 as long as possible... i hate kde 4 and gnome 3
[20:11] <Yud_Zroc> Hai everyone I got a computer I would like to use as a development computer for games, I would like to keep it linux and possibly ubuntu flaver, what flaver of ubuntu would be best for developing 3d games]
[20:11] <subcool> spackalacka, - :/ i dont think u have to use hte new versions of the kde and gnome. but- ur gonan have to find a pro. I tried to do a dist-upgrade. And i cant even do that. It fails left and right.
[20:11] <spackalacka> maybe i can do a dist-upgrade and then finally get around to learning fluxbox, but every time i've tried, it's been shitty to get wireless working efficiently
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> !poll | Yud_Zroc
[20:11] <subcool> careful- thats what been killing me.. i cant even dis-upgrade
[20:11] <subcool> spackalacka, the repos' are like all gone.
[20:11] <tux30> subcool: you you have 32 or 65 bit?
[20:11] <tux30> 64
[20:12] <subcool> tux30, i have 64 bit
[20:12] <subcool> but im pretty sure it installs via wine
[20:12] <subcool> do you have wine?
[20:12] <subcool> i remember making fun of it
[20:12] <Yud_Zroc> ok let me rephrase my question, what exactly does the low latency kernal do for studiobuntu?
[20:14] <john_doe_jr> jrib: how do you tell if your ubuntu server is available to be hit on the internet?
[20:14] <tux30> Subcool: if a install with wine do must dowsnload windows version?
[20:14] <subcool> tux30, try the 64 bit- all it can do is error on u again
[20:14] <subcool> no
[20:14] <subcool> i mean- teamviewer uses wine
[20:14] <subcool> when it installs.. you'll see a wine interface
[20:14] <t4nk825> im literally in wine/program files right now n i dont see image-line
[20:15] <subcool> tux30, try to 64bit, but i have to go
[20:15] <subcool> tux30, good luck. You too spackalacka
[20:17] <ddsss> why when I login into my ubuntu desktop over ssh it says: "New release '13.04' available"?  it's already been upgraedd to that relese.... any clues?
[20:18] <spackalacka> by the way, if anyone has the same trackpad trouble as i did, i found a solution that worked for me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518293 post #2
[20:18] <spackalacka> see ya
[20:18] <t4nk825> i just reinstalled fl studio and put it into my documents and it is not there now
[20:19] <bekks> t4nk825: Because it is in .wine as being told multiple times now.
[20:19] <t4nk825> even if i go into wine folder its still not there
[20:20] <bekks> t4nk825: Thats where it was installed to.
[20:20] <An_Ony_Moose> is there a file that defines all the MIME types that the system can recognise? /usr/share/applications/mimeapps.list (and ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list and /usr/local/[etc]) don't seem to contain all those that nautilus etc seem to recognise.
[20:20] <rafaelloest> Jordan_U, are you there?
[20:22] <t4nk825> can you help me launch programs from when im in $wine directory?
[20:23] <replaceits> echo $WINE
[20:23] <replaceits> oops
[20:23] <An_Ony_Moose> t4nk825: if it isn't there we can't help you
[20:25] <t4nk825> but y would it not be in there?
[20:26] <skegeek> What is the channel for Mint Linux?
[20:26] <BluesKaj> t4nk825, what programs are you trying to run from ~/.wine ?
[20:26] <t4nk825> fl studio
[20:27] <replaceits> t4nk825: theres not much we can tell you, but i personaly wouldnt try running fl in wine, it would be bad, just dual boot windows or mac and run it there, it will be alot better
[20:27] <BluesKaj> what's that t4nk825 , a game ?
[20:27] <skegeek> I just noticed Mint Linux is using Ubuntu repos, is that supposed to be?
[20:27] <guntbert> !mint | skegeek
[20:27] <t4nk825> its a music making program
[20:28] <Ben66> !appdb | t4nk825
[20:28] <BluesKaj> skegeek, try #linux-mint
[20:28] <t4nk825> thanks
[20:28] <jenkins_> Hello Chiluk
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> not a channe;
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> channel*
[20:29] <jenkins_> how is everyone today?
[20:29] <BluesKaj> t4nk825, have you bothered looking for a linux equivalent app , surely there is one
[20:29] <kuba_> hello
[20:29] <replaceits> the linux equivalent is lmms
[20:29] <replaceits> try that
[20:29] <t4nk825> not really im just wondering if i installed it why cant i open it?
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> jenkins_, Chat s in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:30] <guntbert> jenkins_: welcome to the ubuntu support channel! Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:30] <replaceits> in lmms you can use all the same generators as fl
[20:30] <AsSlowAsHell> is there any way to make GRUB "remember" the previous boot option so that next boot it defaults to whatever was the previous boot option?
[20:30] <jenkins_> when my computer goes into power save if I leave it on and walk away, when I move the mouse the screen goes white and stays that way.
[20:30] <BluesKaj> replaceits, addreess your suggestions to the person , not to whole chat , he might miss it
[20:30] <shaktimaan> A1Recon: what do you mean whit NEw Volume? a new disk ?
[20:31] <jenkins_> ctrl+alt+T doesn't give me a terminal window.
[20:31] <replaceits> blue: my bad lol
[20:31] <jenkins_> but the mouse is active and moves
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> AsSlowAsHell, yes but a real hassle really same time to just choose the boot
[20:31] <A1Recon> shaktimaan: partition in a another hdd.... it's mounted
[20:32] <AsSlowAsHell> wilee-nilee, so it's possible though?
[20:32] <shaktimaan> A1Recon: cd <mountpoint> e.g. cd /mnt/usb
[20:33] <A1Recon> hey i got it !!
[20:34] <pure>  jenkins_ Have you checked your keyboard shortcuts in the settings menu?
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> AsSlowAsHell, Yes, https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[20:35] <jenkins_> pure, it the shortcut works when my desplay isn't white
[20:36] <AsSlowAsHell> looking at 00_header it has something to do with some setting xsaved in GRUB_DEFAULT?
[20:36] <pure> jenkins_: what desktop enviroment are you using?
[20:36] <jenkins_> unity
[20:37] <Aethysius> Ew.
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> AsSlowAsHell, I know it can be done, however would have to search for how depending on what your actual setup and needs are, which you can do as easily
[20:37] <AsSlowAsHell> wilee-nilee, alrighty will do.  Just needed to know if it was possible i can figure out the rest :) thanks
[20:37] <Aethysius> I much prefer KDE Plasma to Unity.
[20:37] <pure> jenkins_: Have you tried crtl+alt+F1 to jump into a terminal and restart the gui?
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> AsSlowAsHell, Cool, good luck.
[20:38] <jenkins_> I've tried that but all I get is the working cursor icon and it still doesn't do anything.
[20:39] <erupter> hi guys. installed 13.04 and nvidia 319.17 and now everything is stuck at around 640x480 without even showing unity. can't do nothing from the window manager, must use the cmd line. I tried uninstalling the nvidia drivers and resetting xorg. any other ideas?
[20:40] <Fleck> simple problem with no good solution know to me: My Desktop PC, I would love to set up SFTP/SCP server, so that users can upload/download files to/from my PC... FTP - easy, SFTP... meeh, chroots and then my user is not able to access those files etc, etc...
[20:40] <pure> jenkins_: What command did you issue to restart unity?
[20:40] <BluesKaj> erupter, the 319  driver is experimental afaik , you should be using the 313 or 310 for better performance
[20:41] <erupter> so no optimus yet?
[20:41] <jenkins_> thats just it, when i hit ctrl+alt+f1 it just changes the cursor icon for a few seconds and then it goes back to an arrow on a white screen and no terminal opens.
[20:42] <erupter> BluesKaj, well install nvidia-current retored my natural resolution, but unity is still missing...
[20:42] <jenkins_> I suppose I could just type "unity --restart" even though I can't see the terminal.
[20:42] <pure> jenkins_: I see. If you restart the machine, does it go straight to a white screen? You may need to ssh in to run the command.
[20:42] <LFS> how to use apt-get to search the packages repository for the application that I'm looking for?
[20:42] <pure> jenkins_: Worth a shot
[20:43] <luckyphuq> LFS: apt-cache search app
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> erupter, You have compizconfig installed to see if the unity plugin is on?
[20:43] <nick_the_dick> I can ssh from my laptop to my desktop (this pc) sometimes - but just now it has started saying "network unreachable". I can't ping either of the computers from the other. Where should I start ?
[20:43] <erupter> wilee-nilee, nothing works in graphical mode so even if I did, I couldn't use the window
[20:43] <jenkins_> no, if I just reboot it brings me to the login screen and I can login just fine and the screen is normal. but if I walk away and it goes into standby or dims and shuts off the screen. then I get the completely white display when I wake it again.
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> erupter, Did you add a ppa?
[20:44] <erupter> wilee-nilee, no manual nvidia driver download and install (just like I always did with my normal lappy)
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> erupter, From nvidia? do you no the nomodeset option at grub?
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> know*
[20:45] <An_Ony_Moose> Fleck: install openssh-server
[20:45] <erupter> i suppose I can get it...
[20:45] <jenkins_> and it's obvious that the processes are still running in the background, but the display just isn't showing it. so I'm not sure if it's waking to the desktop, or waking to a login screen that isn't displaying.
[20:45] <pure> jenkins_: I'm afraid that's out of my experience level. Sorry buddy
[20:45] <jenkins_> no worries, thanks for trying though.
[20:45] <Fleck> An_Ony_Moose: openssh-server is already the newest version.
[20:46] <jenkins_> i'm thinking it may be the video driver is stalling or something.
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> erupter, get what, and use nicks please.
[20:46] <erupter> wilee-nilee, sorry, wilco
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> erupter, nvidia drivers are not advised.
[20:47] <erupter> wilee-nilee, i have no modeset in my boot cfg, why not? with my old core2 laptop they are fine
[20:48] <BluesKaj> erupter, http://askubuntu.com/questions/285627/unity-does-not-start-in-ubuntu-13-04
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> erupter, You are getting no graphic because of driver problems, nomodeset is a low graphic boot to get in a fix stuff if possible from the desktop.
[20:49] <erupter> BluesKaj, thanks I'll give that a try
[20:49] <An_Ony_Moose> Fleck: then it should work out of the box. You'll probably have to forward port 22 to access it from the outside, how you do that depends on your router
[20:49] <Fleck> An_Ony_Moose: I need chroot...
[20:50] <Fleck> cause w/o it all users can surf all my PC - stupid!
[20:50] <erupter> BluesKaj, oh that's funny: "error spawning command line dbus-launch blah blah child process exited with code1"
[20:51] <erupter> wilee-nilee, it's not that I can't get the graphics mode at all, I get to the login manager (now with the correct resolution) but after the login I don't have unity
[20:52] <Fefeto> Salve
[20:53] <Fefeto> !list
[20:53] <BluesKaj> erupter, well I run KDE so i don't have Unity problems ...merely trying to help , guess that url is behind the curve
[20:53] <Fefeto> OK
[20:54] <sav> lotta people in here
[20:56] <nubby> hey giuys any oen experianced random logouts/may xrestarts on 13.04 kernel 3.5.0-27 nvidiqa optimus "NO BUMBLEBEE"
[20:56] <nubby> maybe x restarts
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> why are you using the 3.5 kernel? I thought 13.04 used 3.8 by default
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> im even using the 3.9 kernel here.
[20:57] <linuxnewb2> Anyone have a Belkin n750 DB USB Adapter. I got it to work on linux 12.04+
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | linuxnewb2
[20:58] <Alamo777> Hello all! I am willing to install an ubuntu mobile os on my china unkown android 4 device, is there any tutorial for that? Also is there a sence to do that? Is it oing to work faster and give me more proveleges like running python scripts on it and tracing gsm packets? thanks
[20:58] <linuxnewb2> Does anyone need a Belkin n750 DB driver?
[20:58] <linuxnewb2> ( that works :D )
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> Alamo777, #ubuntu-touch
[20:59] <utfans05> Alamo777: http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/
[20:59] <Alamo777> ok thank you so much guys!
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> linuxnewb2:  from what i just googled - it uses the  RT3573 driver.
[21:00] <erupter> wilee-nilee, BluesKaj problem is I lost the opengl drivers
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> linuxnewb2:  not ubuntu specific - but heres some guys that had to recompile the driver for it. a newer kernel may allready have the fixs in place.
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=149329
[21:01] <erupter> wilee-nilee, BluesKaj  by launching unity manually I can see "error plugin opengl not loaded"
[21:01] <erupter> wilee-nilee, BluesKaj do you have any idea how to reactivate it?
[21:01]  * BluesKaj feels for ubuntu /nvidia users
[21:02] <Dr_Willis> My Nvidia works fine. ;) but its an older non-optimus setup
[21:02] <linuxnewb2> Dr_Willis: I got it working already. I was trying to help anyone else who needs one, or has a issue.
[21:03] <linuxnewb2> It's not in any of the newer kernels :/
[21:03] <ro9> hello
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> linuxnewb2:  post a question and answer on askubuntu.com so others can find the info.
[21:03] <linuxnewb2> ro9: Hey.
[21:03] <linuxnewb2> Dr_Willis : That's clever.
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> thats what the site is designed for
[21:04] <BluesKaj> erupter, http://www.howtogeek.com/124685/how-to-make-nvidias-optimus-work-on-linux/
[21:05] <netlar> Ok, I reinstalled the 64bit version
[21:05] <netlar> I am sorry for all the bugging and some ranting, I think I will play it pretty close to the vest for now on
[21:08] <netlar> Everything seems to be working again, just that same problem with the external hd
[21:08] <nurupo> when starting x server on a headless machine it keeps waiting for clients and then closes if there are no any. is it possible to run x server without any clients?
[21:08] <utfans05> netlar: im thinking that is a specific issue with that drive and not linux
[21:09] <byr> I'm trying to install nvidia drivers for gtx 660 by following the instructions here http://askubuntu.com/questions/291199/help-13-04-installation-nvidia-driver but this step gives me fatal error sudo modprobe nvidia_current
[21:09] <utfans05> byr: whats the error... what you gave us was 1/2 the info
[21:09] <bsdbeard> updated fglrx and now lightdm doesn't have the 'login' menu, I had to switch to tty(1), kill lightdm and manually call xinit, any idea how I can fix lightdm?
[21:09] <byr> http://askubuntu.com/questions/291199/help-13-04-installation-nvidia-driver
[21:10] <si_66> hi i have downloaded kali. i know no coding in linux and am completely new at the whats the best distro to start with to learn with easily
[21:10] <byr> utfans05: error was FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found.
[21:10] <netlar> utfans05: That may be true
[21:10] <netlar> utfans05: too tired now to experiment anymore
[21:10] <utfans05> byr: did you grab the nvidia_current package
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. whats Kali? that sounds familer...
[21:11] <utfans05> netlar: i uderstand that
[21:11] <netlar> utfans05: is it pretty bad to add PPA's too?
[21:11] <utfans05> Dr_Willis: isnt that the chick withthe dragons in Game of Thrones
[21:11] <An_Ony_Moose> Fleck: oh sorry. you'll have to remove openssh-server (so thst port 22 is available) and set up a chrot environment using debootstrap.
[21:11] <byr> utfans05: I followed the every step in that page so I guess I did
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> utfans05:  never seen that show. ;)
[21:11] <An_Ony_Moose> !debootstrap | Fleck
[21:11] <ro9> Kali Linux is a pentest distro
[21:11] <utfans05> Dr_Willis: really?!?!?!
[21:11] <si_66> backtracks new release but way beyond me
[21:11] <Fleck> An_Ony_Moose: sure and thats not cool! :(
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> utfans05:  i dont have cable tv. and i dont feel like torrenting it. ;)
[21:12] <netlar> utfans05: I love chrome, but scared now to include the PPA for it
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> si_66:  if you want to learn to program. start with ubuntu, and learn python..
[21:12] <Fleck> An_Ony_Moose: not comfortable...
[21:12] <si_66> ubunto and python :) thankyou
[21:12] <utfans05> Dr_Willis: i believe its on netflix
[21:13] <utfans05> byr: yeah... unsure where you went wrong, can you check your logs and see where its throwing the error?
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> utfans05:  i cancled netflix last month. :) rarely watched anything on it other then anime.. and i get that for free at crunchyroll.com :)
[21:13] <An_Ony_Moose> Fleck: not comfortable?
[21:13] <m1chael> wow i just tried Google Chrome's SSH app... I like it! anyone else use it?
[21:13] <netlar> Are all the software from the Ubuntu software center safe to install?
[21:13] <byr> utfans05: I'm pretty new to ubuntu, how can I check the logs?
[21:14] <utfans05> Dr_Willis: if you get the chance to watch it.... Don't start in the middle
[21:14] <utfans05> byr: check in your /var/log folder
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> m1chael: i use guake for most things these days :-)
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> netlar:  define what you mean by 'safe'  Stuff from the standard repos should be virus/malware free.
[21:14] <utfans05> ActionParsnip: guake is awesome
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> netlar: if you have only default sources enabled, then yes
[21:14] <netlar> Dr_Willis: I just do not want to install anything that may make the system unstable
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> netlar:  unstable - can depend on a lot of things..
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> utfans05: should be default installed imho, along with unp and pastebinit
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> netlar:  the most unstable parts are normally drivers for specific hardware that may not be as good as it could be
[21:15] <byr> utfans05: which log file should I look for?
[21:15] <ro9> i love guake and i love terminetor more
[21:15] <Fleck> An_Ony_Moose: yes, this is my Desktop PC - Would be great to have SFTP accounts with different usernames/logins but files chowned to my user, so that I can access them and manage them...
[21:15] <utfans05> byr: should be the Xorg.0.log
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> netlar:  its not like you are going to install some game like 'wesnoth' and make the system unstable
[21:15] <netlar> Dr_Willis: so Chrome and its PPA would not make things unstable
[21:16] <ro9> terminator in unity help me missing i3wm
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> netlar:  i would be sprised at a browser that makes the system unstable..
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> fleck: you can do that, install openssh-server
[21:16] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: ok, then what?
[21:16] <erupter> BluesKaj, thanks for that, appears to be at least doing something
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> netlar:  there was some bug with google-chrome when 13,04 first came out. but i think its been fixed now.   it runs here fine.
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> netlar:  im even using the google-chrome-os thing for ubuntu ;)
[21:17] <netlar> Dr_Willis: but it is not in the software center yet
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> netlar:  you just said it was a ppa.. so thats not from the default 'sources'
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> netlar:  chromium-browser is in the default repos
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> fleck: then connect on port 22 on the server with your username and password using nautilus as sshfs / sftp. Windows file manager isnt as feature rich so you will need filezilla in windows
[21:17] <byr> utfans05: here is the log file http://paste.bradleygill.com/index.php?paste_id=4262
[21:17] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: meh, read again! :(
[21:17] <netlar> ok
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: chromium doesnt have the nice chrome goodies
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> I use firefox these days. :) so i  cant really say ive noticed.
[21:19] <ro9> i keep getting aww snap in chromium and chrome
[21:19] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: this is my desktop PC - I do not want SFTP users to see all my files, just one directory...
[21:19]  * Aww snap
[21:19] <brainwashed> mozilla really should consider supporting pepper flash :/
[21:19] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: so I need chroot - chroot means only root can read those files = sucks!
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> Fleck:  err.. thats not what chroot means..
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> fleck: the usernames and passwords are the same as the ones they log in to the system with. You may be able to tell the service to chown the files to a specified user, the user will get the same access as it does if you are logged in locally
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> fleck: i thought you wanted sftp, not chroot
[21:20] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: SFTP accounts, not users on my desktop PC - this is my PC, and only mine... I am the only one user here!
[21:21] <netlar> Is it ok to have the Unsupported updates checked?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> fleck: the sftp server uses the same accounts as you can login with
[21:21] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: bingo!!! Not cool!
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> netlar: it is ok, just that results may vary
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> fleck: why so?
[21:22] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: + you can view all system fs
[21:22] <netlar> ActionParsnip: But is it better if it is unchecked?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> fleck: you can as your user which is logged in too....not cool?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> netlar: its ideal to not, bit sometimes the packages can help
[21:23] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: I'm sorry, I don't get what you don't understand...
[21:23] <zeep> so i got a ss of the random artifact glitch. http://i.imgur.com/7tp8MaC.jpg
[21:23] <netlar> ActionParsnip: just little worried about making things unstable is all
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> fleck: if you make a user, even if its not in the sudo group, you can see the whole OS file sustem too
[21:23] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: right, so?
[21:24] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: thats why I am the only user on my Desktop PC :D
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> fleck: so if you can log in to an sftp on the same box, why restrict the account when it has the same access locally
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> fleck: the files uploaded will be owned by the uploader. So why is chown needed
[21:25] <brainwashed> zeep, using intel graphics?
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> Paranoia? ;)
[21:25] <gordonjcp> Fleck: what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:26] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: lol, read again! :D I need SFTP accounts ONLY, not local accounts... I need SFTP accounts that are under my user/group so that I can manage them (delete, remove, rename etc...) and SFTP users cannot leave their dir (chrooted...)
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> fleck: "sftp accounts with different usernames/logins" then you say you only have one system account.....
[21:26] <CajunLanMan> histo, Do you recall my remote desktop question from earlier?
[21:26] <gordonjcp> Fleck: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SFTP-chroot
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> fleck: the accounts are one and the same thing
[21:26] <gordonjcp> Fleck: ^ that is for Arch but the principle is the same
[21:26] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: have you tried proftpd? does just what I need, just wrong protocol!
[21:27] <gordonjcp> Fleck: also it took about two seconds of googling to find
[21:27] <Fleck> gordonjcp: please read what I said to ActionParsnip
[21:27] <gordonjcp> Fleck: you've said lots of things
[21:27] <gordonjcp> Fleck: you haven't answered my earlier question
[21:27] <CajunLanMan> histo, Found something that does the trick perfectly. Ever heard of xrdp? It works beautifully. Thought I'd pass on the info.  Thanks for the help earlier.
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> fleck: yes proftpd maintains its own accounts. sftp is essentially over ssh, which is authorized by user name and pass like the local users (or ldap etc)
[21:28] <Fleck> gordonjcp: virtual SFTP accounts that are under my username - and SFTP users can ONLY see their directories, cannot walk outside it
[21:29] <Ben66> unpossible
[21:29] <sake> why is it that gpg --verify doesn't actually verify that I created a file?
[21:29] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: right, thats what I need - SFTP accounts just like proftpd... w/o system users
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> fleck: you can make users and not allow them local login but can connect to sftp
[21:29] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: yep, still, they can view all my system
[21:29] <Fleck> hate that!
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> fleck: i dont believe it is possible at all.
[21:31] <wdonkey> hello, i want to make an ad-hoc server on my laptop
[21:31] <gordonjcp> Fleck: how can they be under your username?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> fleck: may help http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/03/chroot-sftp-setup/
[21:31] <gordonjcp> Fleck: that would just be sftp-ing as you
[21:31] <wdonkey> it used to be easy, now i cant find how, all i get is wireless ad-hocs
[21:32] <Fleck> gordonjcp: easy - different usernames/pass for SFTP accounts but uploaded files are chowned by my user perms
[21:32] <byr> When I do sudo modprobe nvidia_current I get FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found. Should I try sudo modprobe nvidia_304 instead?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> fleck: seems you can jail users out
[21:32] <gordonjcp> Fleck: read the article I posted a link to
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> byr: sudo modprobe nvidia
[21:33] <byr> ActionParsnip: nvidia_304
[21:33] <byr> sorry
[21:33] <byr> ActionParsnip: ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_304': No such device
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> byr: use TAB to complete module names
[21:34] <byr> I did sudo modprobe nvidia and it gave me this error
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> byr: nvidia not nvidia_304
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> byr: try: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[21:34] <byr> ActionParsnip: I used nvidia
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> i dont recall ever needing to manually modprobe the nvidia modules
[21:35] <byr> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[21:35] <byr> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[21:35] <Ben66> used to have to modprobe... back in 2005
[21:35] <byr> ActionParsnip: This is what I got ^^
[21:36] <joar> I have a reverse SSH tunnel from a [unicorn]:22 listening on [hippo]:21234. [unicorn] is behind NAT, [hippo] is a VPS.
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> byr:  and its saying.. it dident find an xorg.conf so it made one.....
[21:36] <joar> [hippo]:21234 however only listens to the loopback interface.
[21:37] <joar> I want to be able to connect from anywhere to [hippo]:21234 and end up at [unicorn]:22, is that possible?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> byr: yes, because it doesnt exist by default. It then makes it, doesnt it?
[21:38] <Fleck> gordonjcp: I did, my user won't be able to manage those files - I will have to use root
[21:38] <byr> ActionParsnip: yeah but then what?
[21:39] <Tex_Nick> this is embarrassing, in 40+ years i've never used a webcam for video conferencing ... my son and daughter in law just bought a webcam & mic at a garage sale (no docs or drivers) ... lsusb showed the cam so i installed "Camorama Webcam Viewer" Cam works great ... she wants to video chat with her sister in Canada tonight, who has been using video conferencing for a few years now. i won't be able to talk to her sister for 5 hrs, so i'm tr
[21:39] <Tex_Nick> ying to get this set up on my end ... isn't this just a peer to peer connection ... with both peers running the same application configured with each other's IP ???
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> byr: then reboot
[21:39] <byr> let me see
[21:39] <Fleck> gordonjcp: I even tried that once, and when I chown users dir to my user, chroot is not working anymore ;D
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> tex_nick: depends what app you use
[21:40] <Fleck> ActionParsnip, gordonjcp:  but hey - there is mod_tls, Ill have to compile proftpd myself, but Ill give it a try! Btw - thanks a lot for help!
[21:41] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip:  yes sir ... i haven't talked with her sister yet ... but all i need to know is what app she is running and her IP ???
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> fleck: np. i wouldnt worry about it too much though
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> tex_nick: what app is she using?
[21:41] <gordonjcp> Fleck: if you use FTP, make sure you post all your login details somewhere nice and public
[21:42] <gordonjcp> Fleck: it'll save a lot of time
[21:42] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: I just need a way to exchange files...
[21:42] <Fleck> gordonjcp: sorry?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: haha
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> fleck: sftp is a good choice
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> scp + winscp +ssh works well for me.. or use the various ubuntu one/dropbox/google drive  services..
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> fleck: or you could overkill and connect to ftp via ssh tunnel
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> fleck: ftp sends login details and data in clear text.
[21:44] <Fleck> Dr_Willis: those services are slow... I have 100Mbit/sec in my country, outside = slow, much slower...
[21:44] <trickyhero> How does one patch KDE2 under FreeBSD?
[21:44] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: mod_tls... for proftpd = SFTP in proftpd :D
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> fleck: i see, or you can just use sftp for simplicity :-)
[21:45] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip:  that's what i won't know till i'm able to talk with her sister in about 5 hrs ... my bet is that she is running a Micro$oft os though ... i'm 13.04 here
[21:45] <Fleck> ActionParsnip: not comfortable - all users can view all my files, or I need to use root to manage uploaded files...
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> tex_nick: sounds like you need to call them and find out
[21:46] <Ben66> Fleck: then make separate users
[21:46] <Fleck> Ben66?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> ben66: they can stil read all the file system etc
[21:46] <Ben66> ActionParsnip: depends how you set it up
[21:47] <neekz0r> sftp uses ssh to tunnel, auth_tls uses ftp with encryption
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ben66: all users can read most of the filesystem
[21:47] <Ben66> who cares if they can read /tmp?
[21:47] <Fleck> I do
[21:47] <neekz0r> a pretty big difference between the two under the hood
[21:47] <Ben66> theres nothing there
[21:47] <joar> GatewayPorts yes was my solution
[21:47] <Fleck> Ben66 soo wrong..
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ben66: thats what I thought but its required by the tinfoil hat wearer :-)
[21:48] <Ben66> oh yeah, maybe some steam logs
[21:48] <Ben66> Sat May 11 01:39:21 2013 UTC - Destroy window 0x380000b
[21:48] <Ben66> can't let people see that...
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> well, there seems to be a solution, i wouldnt sweat it
[21:49] <Ben66> it really comes down to trust. if you don't trust someone to view harmless files on your system, you probably shouldn't be giving them a login in the first place
[21:50] <Ben66> if they're that shady, you can get compromised anyway
[21:50] <kubotsu> users can only see global system files, per user files are private unless you are the admin account, no?
[21:50] <neekz0r> did you already discuss chrooting them?
[21:50] <Ben66> he wants them all under his user for whatever reason
[21:51] <neekz0r> huh?
[21:51] <Ben66> yeah
[21:51] <neekz0r> i don't get it, why?
[21:51] <Ben66> nobody gets it
[21:51] <Fleck> ;p
[21:51] <sasha-> guys you have really outdone yourselves this time
[21:51] <sasha-> a Pentium desktop from 2004 is able to not only function smoothly with Lubuntu on it, but it is also able to play 1080p TS videos....
[21:51] <sasha-> ridiculous
[21:51] <sasha-> *1080i
[21:51] <Ben66> sasha-: wow. i couldn't play 720p in 2004
[21:52] <Fleck> neekz0r: easy - chrooting is ok, but then I need to manage files uploaded... and my users can't do that
[21:52] <Fleck> s/users/user
[21:52] <neekz0r> what exactly are you trying to accomplish, fleck?
[21:52] <Fleck> :)))) I said that 50 times already neekz0r :D
[21:53] <neekz0r> i'm too lazy to scroll up
[21:53] <sasha-> Ben66: you had 720p in 2004?
[21:53] <sasha-> but it doesn't play the p's too smoothly :P
[21:53] <kubotsu> his rep might be jeopardized by onlookers
[21:53] <Ben66> sasha-: yeah, or a computer from then
[21:53] <sasha-> mine is courtesy of the junkyard
[21:54] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip:  yes sir i understand ... out of curosity ... is there a standard video conferencing transmission protocol, or is that application specific ?
[21:54] <sasha-> heck, I found another one, which with just 512mb more ram, ppl were able to run Mac os x on it
[21:54] <sasha-> heck, what's more I even found a 21" unibody iMac once
[21:54] <sasha-> which worked for some reason
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> there are a few, i bet they mean skype though but many chat protocols support webcam
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> sasha: how big is the screen you are using?
[21:55] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip:  ok thanks for the input :-)
[21:56] <sasha-> 15"
[21:56] <sasha-> also form the junkyard
[21:56] <kblin> hi folks
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> sasha: then you wont see the quality in 1080i or 1080p as its so small
[21:56] <sasha-> yeah it overflowed
[21:57] <Fleck> neekz0r: virtual SFTP accounts, uploaded files are my user/group chowned - and SFTP users can ONLY see their directories, cannot walk outside it
[21:57] <kblin> can I somehow tell the dnsmasq that network manager likes to start to listen on 0.0.0.0 and forward dns requests for the local network somehow>
[21:57] <kblin> ?
[21:57] <Ben66> Fleck: you should look into ACL
[21:57] <neekz0r> why can't you do this on a per user basis?
[21:58] <Fleck> neekz0r: I need to manage those files
[21:58] <neekz0r> and don't you have admin access?
[21:58] <neekz0r> aka root
[21:58] <Fleck> see - thats not comfortable
[21:58] <neekz0r> how is that not comfortable?
[21:58] <Fleck> need to change user to manage
[21:59] <neekz0r> yes? so?
[21:59] <neekz0r> that's what it's there for
[21:59] <Fleck> thats it!
[21:59] <kubotsu> am sorry to inform you to do it the linux way
[21:59] <neekz0r> not just the linux way, the good security way
[21:59] <kubotsu> for that, you need to read more about admin group stuff
[21:59] <ddssc1> anyone got hdmi working with nvidia optimus laptop?
[21:59] <Fleck> linux is about choise, so...
[21:59] <neekz0r> anything else is not only re-inventing the wheel, it's also circumventing any other security issues you put into place
[22:00] <vice_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJC8uJMVqos
[22:00] <Fleck> neekz0r: get over it - I don't like that way!
[22:00] <neekz0r> a swiss army is about choice too, that doesn't mean you take out the screw driver and use it as a knife
[22:01] <neekz0r> you may not like that way, but unless you want to write your own bizarre ftp server, that's the only way that you'll find a solution
[22:02] <Fleck> neekz0r: looks like you are wrong!
[22:02] <neekz0r> ... i fail to see how typing sudo /bin/bash is really that ornerous
[22:02] <xwalterx> hola
[22:02] <Fleck> neekz0r: I don't use terminals :D
[22:02] <kubotsu> that said, there is no standard solution. it's the trademark of an open system
[22:03]  * neekz0r shrugs
[22:03] <kubotsu> but yah, there are standards
[22:03] <kubotsu> it's confusing at first, but you get used to it
[22:04] <Fleck> kubotsu: to some things Ill never get used to
[22:05] <evilytwisted> Is there a way where i can save the output file from terminal to gedit or whatever.. While playing WoW till the time i close it?
[22:05] <evilytwisted> automatically save **
[22:05] <Fleck> evilytwisted: command > file.txt
[22:05] <neekz0r> Fleck: also, if you find a whole room of linux users in agreement and not trying to out geek each other, that's a pretty good indication that what youa re trying to do is a Bad Idea
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> that may get to be  a rather large file...
[22:06] <evilytwisted> Fleck:  so wine WoW.exe >file.txt?
[22:06] <Fleck> evilytwisted: yep
[22:06] <neekz0r> ...
[22:06] <evilytwisted> ty fleck appreciate it :D
[22:06] <neekz0r> that' only copy standard output
[22:06] <evilytwisted> what do you mean?
[22:07] <Fleck> neekz0r: not trying to out geek anyone - just get over it... :)
[22:07] <neekz0r> evilytwisted: use wine wow.exe &>> file.txt
[22:08] <evilytwisted> appreciate the quick response.. im trying to figure out why my game keeps crashing...
[22:08] <sasha-> I'm having issues connecting to my Lubuntu box via samba
[22:08] <evilytwisted> So i have to save the output till it happens..
[22:08] <sasha-> I used this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1623346
[22:08]  * neekz0r nods
[22:08] <evilytwisted> as Dr_Willis  said.. It might be a really big file...
[22:08] <BAMbanda> why am i not getting an ip address on my ubuntu desktop, but am able to get one fine on my iphone? i am connected to the same access point!
[22:08] <sasha-> but when I try to 'Connect as' from my mac, it doesn't accept any username or password
[22:08] <neekz0r> i don't recall off the top of my head, but you'll probably also want to investigate wines verbose feature and/or debugging
[22:09] <evilytwisted> details?
[22:09] <kubotsu> !apport
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> sasha-:  you did give the lubuntu user a samba password via 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' ?
[22:09] <sasha-> no I didn't
[22:09] <evilytwisted> and neekz0r  where does the file get saved to?
[22:09] <sasha-> :)
[22:10] <Fleck> neekz0r: btw, If I'm trying to do something wrong - why does samba has such feature? Why proftpd has? Why Apache + webdav has? And many more? Think about it!
[22:10] <BAMbanda> who knows their stuff when it comes to networking?
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> differnt methods of shareing files for totally differnt needs
[22:10] <sasha-> Dr_Willis: you are actually awesome
[22:10] <sasha-> if i had bitcoins I would donate some to you
[22:10] <sasha-> :D
[22:10] <Fleck> :pp
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> sasha-:   old skool samba info. ;) gleened from reading the samba books over the last few years
[22:11] <Fleck> sasha-: use paypal :D
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[22:11] <sasha-> hehe
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> I do have paypal ;)
[22:11] <surfdaemon> paypal doesn't respect your freedoms
[22:11] <Atox> my Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet won't connect to my router. dhclient eth0 never exits. I'm running 13.04, so no backports either. Anybody knows a solution?
[22:11] <sasha-> ok, now this will make anyone superawesoeme
[22:11] <sasha-> I'm having issues downloading a file over lftp
[22:11] <sasha-> although I can see if with the ls -a command
[22:11] <sasha-> i can't download it in any way
[22:12] <Atox> dmesg is filled with output from the alx module
[22:13] <BAMbanda> im not getting an ip address on my desktop, but im still connected to the access point
[22:13] <vice_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJC8uJMVqos
[22:14] <BAMbanda> off topic...can anybody help me?
[22:14] <Fleck> vice_: repeating yourself huh?
[22:15] <vice_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJC8uJMVqos
[22:15] <neekz0r> fleck, what feature? to the best of my knowledge, they don't have seperate containers for the same user
[22:15] <Antuan> hola
[22:16] <Fleck> neekz0r: they do! :D
[22:16] <neekz0r> okay, show me the man page, i'm curious
[22:16] <BAMbanda> thanks for not helping guys
[22:16] <neekz0r> BAMbanda: thanks for being patient
[22:17]  * Dr_Willis sends BAMbanda  the bill.
[22:17] <Fleck> :D
[22:17] <sasha-> mhhhh 2.43mb/s over samba
[22:17] <mdfe> BAMbanda, you're probably IP6 and don't recognise the new format address :)
[22:18] <BAMbanda> mdfe, i cant ping anything
[22:18] <Fleck> neekz0r: man smb.conf
[22:19] <mdfe> BAMbanda, is dhcp on the AP enabled?
[22:19] <neekz0r> yes? what feature set are you talking about?
[22:19] <BAMbanda> mdfe,  yea. im currently using an ip assigned to my iPhone from the same AP
[22:19] <Fleck> neekz0r: force user & force group
[22:20] <Fleck> neekz0r: also create mask etc...
[22:20] <mdfe> BAMbanda, is there any kind of mac address filtering on the AP?
[22:20] <neekz0r> that doesn't do what you want it to do
[22:20] <BAMbanda> mdfe, nope :/
[22:20] <Fleck> yes it does!
[22:20] <neekz0r> okay
[22:20] <neekz0r> sure, if you say so
[22:20] <Fleck> aaand just does juust perfect! :)
[22:21] <mdfe> BAMbanda, and I assume you have rebooted the AP and the desktop?
[22:21] <Fleck> *aaand does juust perfect! :)
[22:21] <neekz0r> you know what does exactly what i want it to do?
[22:22] <gordonjcp> 3/sb end
[22:22] <BAMbanda> mdfe, not the AP, but the desktopany times. Since im using the connection right now to speak to u, i dont want to reaent the AP right now
[22:22] <Fleck> neekz0r: I'm sorry that you are wrong, I can't help it, just, try to get over it!
[22:23] <neekz0r> /ignore is a wonderful invention, fleck
[22:23] <Fleck> ;)
[22:23] <mdfe> BAMbanda, well assuming it worked before, and doesn't work now, and the configuation hasn't been changed, that's what I would do
[22:23] <Fleck> meh, why do you get angry at me when you are wrong, and I am right? Isn't that childish neekz0r?
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> dont make me stop this car...
[22:25] <BAMbanda> mdfe, its been giving me trouble all day :( i have no problems with windows and i love linux. but these networking issues piss me off so bad. I cant even vpn to my work, while i have no problems on the windows partition. its the same machine :(
[22:25] <mdfe> BAMbanda, ah i know what that is then
[22:26] <evilytwisted> neekz0r:  where does the file get saved to?
[22:26] <neekz0r> evilytwisted: wherever you put after the &>> command
[22:26] <BAMbanda> mdfe, :D
[22:26] <Fleck> evilytwisted: pwd
[22:26] <x47archive> hi
[22:26] <neekz0r> ie, &>> filename.txt it would be saved in 'filename.txt'
[22:26] <Morph4me> evilytwisted: your WoW exe file.txt is saved to the /home /<whateveryounamedhere>  directory
[22:26] <mdfe> BAMbanda, your AP sees the mac address of the network card twice, once each with each OS, and it thinks something weird is happening
[22:26] <evilytwisted> ty Morph4me
[22:27] <x47archive> hi
[22:27] <x47archive> SKIDS
[22:27] <x47archive> :D
[22:27] <mdfe> BAMbanda, it thinks when it sees you the 2nd time with the same network card bt a differnet OS/connection, it thinks there is hackery afoot and ignores it
[22:27] <mdfe> BAMbanda, or its just bugged and can't handle it
[22:28] <Ben66> BAMbanda: why don't you set a static ip
[22:28] <BAMbanda> mdfe, ooooo that makes sense. I'll reset it and see what happens. im gonna try setting a static and see what happens
[22:28] <mdfe> BAMbanda, you can get around this by setting a static IP address andnot using DHCP
[22:28] <mdfe> BAMbanda, make sure the IP is differnet in each OS just in case
[22:29] <BAMbanda> mdfe, cool thanks. I'll give it a shot :)
[22:30] <lwells> Not sure what is causing this problem, but when I log out and then try to shut down, the machine freezes
[22:31] <lwells> This is a fresh install with two user accounts
[22:31] <lwells> 13.04 64bit system
[22:32] <surfdaemon> lwells: I've seen that as well, but only a few times.
[22:32] <lwells> Was there any fixes/patches for it?
[22:32] <mdfe> lwells, have you updated?
[22:32] <lwells> Yes, just few min ago
[22:33] <mdfe> i had a machine that used to do it, but it was ACPI issue, and update and reboot fixed it, on the next reboot
[22:33] <OerHeks> mdfe +1 acpi issue
[22:33] <mdfe> dont know what your issue is, not enough info, cant tell yet
[22:33] <LLckfan> Does any1 know how to stop Shockwave flash from crashing? I have uninstalled both Flash and my browser (Chrome), installed both from a fresh download, and scanned my computer (come up clean). Everything is updated
[22:34] <mdfe> scanned?
[22:34] <mdfe> is this a widnows question?
[22:34] <lwells> I had it happen before and not sure that was what messed up system, but I had to do a fresh install
[22:34] <LLckfan> I have a fresh install
[22:35] <lwells> I am scared to try it again , to see if it does it again, might mess me up and my system
[22:39] <thedecimal> freenode.net/join #habitrpg
[22:39] <bean> thedecimal, you just want /join #habitrpg
[22:39] <Ownix> My roomates laptop is slower than dirt, I want to put him on linux whats a good distro with a lightweight desktop that will still have a good feature set?
[22:40] <Ownix> Im aware of Lubuntu and Xubuntu but im afraid they wont be user friendly enough or lacking in features
[22:40] <bean> Ownix, for light weight stuff i like those two that you listed -- I'm also a fan of a base debian install, or crunchbang
[22:40] <netlar> Also , do you need to be logged out of all user accounts before you can shut down the system?
[22:41] <looop> you dont need much feature on a old laptop come on
[22:41] <anders3408> hi, i dont know if this will be the correct room to ask , but i am having some trouble using ubuntu, when using ubuntu on a new itx tower pc, , i get random freezes, it can be while surfing internet, or it can be while compiling, totally random. when it does freeze, even reset button on cabinet dont work, REISUB dont work or any other commands. im using ubuntu 12.04 with latest ubadtes
[22:41] <looop> how much ram on that laptop
[22:42] <netlar> The reason I ask, is because when I am logged in to more than one user account and then I try to shut down, it just brings me to the log in screen
[22:42] <Ownix> bean: well the reason im leaning towards ubuntu is everything works out of the box especially on older hardware. and the main aim of the distro is usability for new to linux users
[22:42] <bean> anders3408, hmm, that sounds like it could be overheating or something, have you checked your temperatures.
[22:42] <Ownix> my only concern is the wireless card
[22:42] <bean> Ownix, what sort of wifi card
[22:42] <OerHeks> netlar logical, you need to logout all accounts to shutdown.
[22:43] <Ownix> not sure
[22:43] <netlar> OerHeks: ok, I was just checking
[22:43] <bean> Ownix, you might want to check :) you'll want to check how compatible before you blaze forward.
[22:43] <anders3408> yes, i did have the same idear, im having Psensor running all times, and it can do the freeze on max temp at 40 or 60 degree C, it is totally random
[22:43] <James_Epp> I need some help with update-rc.d . I have the tftp-hpa service installed, and now I need to make it run on boot. Is 'sudo update-rc.d tftp-hpa defaults' what I want?
[22:43] <netlar> OerHeks: so sending the shutdown command does not log you out of all user accounts?
[22:44] <bean> anders3408, alright, odd. you've fully updated? "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" on the command line.
[22:44] <anders3408> yes fully updated, did that for 1 hour ago
[22:44] <OerHeks> netlar nope, i am not sure there is a way to force all accounts to shutdown.
[22:45] <bean> anders3408, okay, what kernel version are you running?
[22:45] <Ownix> bean: I figure ill boot to a live cd and see
[22:45] <netlar> OerHeks: just wondering, if that was just my system or that is normal operation
[22:45] <anders3408> just installed ubuntu 12.0.4 , did not change kernel
[22:45] <bean> Ownix, good idea.
[22:45] <LFS> is there good Active directory implementation in ubuntu like the one on windows server? and what is the package name
[22:45] <bean> anders3408, okay, but what does "uname -a" say
[22:46] <anders3408> also was thinking trying another kernel, my cpu is a intel i5, perhaps there is a i5 optimized kernel ?
[22:46] <netlar> OerHeks: But I am having issues shutting down from the login screen
[22:46] <anders3408> Linux Anders3408-Developer 3.2.0-40-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 25 21:22:10 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:46] <neekz0r> the problem with using crappy old hardware to play with is that it's crappy old hardware
[22:46] <tuffgong> in need with python installation in ubuntu 13.04
[22:46] <bean> anders3408, I'm seeing a bug report on ubuntu bugs w/r/t that kernel.
[22:46] <anders3408> did a benchmark test also, on cpu and on gpu and ram, no issues found for several hours
[22:47] <anders3408> bean, so you would suggest trying another kernel ?
[22:47] <OerHeks> netlar,  yes, before you changed your name you did mention that, sounds like aacpi problem, check your bios
[22:48] <bean> anders3408, yeah, it sounds like a problem with the kernel, trying another kernel is a good idea, if you have one to boot into.
[22:48] <anders3408> i only have the stock kernel
[22:48] <netlar> The bios may affect the shutdown process??
[22:48] <bean> anders3408, could try enabling the proposed updates repo and upgrading through that
[22:49] <tuffgong> in need with python3.3.1 installation in ubuntu 13.04 anyone with idea
[22:49] <anders3408> bean : you mean the one that is called precise-proposed ?
[22:49] <OerHeks> netlar sure can, see this wiki >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI
[22:50] <netlar> OerHeks: thanks, I will read up on that
[22:51] <OerHeks> tuffgong, current version in 13.04 is 3.3.1 already
[22:52] <bean> anders3408, yeah
[22:52] <anders3408> bean , perhaps it was more easy to try  Liquorix kernel ?
[22:52] <anders3408> havnt tried it, but have readed good things about that
[22:53] <tuffgong> OerHeks, i tried to root  then locate the version python 3.3.1tgz
[22:53] <Dr_willis> tuffgong,  tried to root?  what?
[22:53] <OerHeks> tgz?
[22:53] <tuffgong> Dr_willis, sudo su
[22:53] <Dr_willis> python --version        may show the version info on your python
[22:54] <Dr_willis> tuffgong,  why do you need to do that? and dont use sudo su...
[22:54] <netlar> OerHeks: I have never updated a bios before, totally clueless
[22:54] <OerHeks> python3 --version
[22:55] <OerHeks> netlar, it is not about updates, but settings and those test wist acpi can determine if it is an acpi problem.
[22:55] <anders3408> or pehaps you know of a better optimized kernel ? im using ubuntu to compile android in , so many iops is expected bean
[22:55] <netlar> OerHeks: ok
[22:55] <tuffgong> Dr_willis,  it is Python 2.7.4 i want to upgrade to 3.3.1
[22:57] <OerHeks> tuffgong try  python3 --version ( you should have both installed)
[22:59] <Xavierg2003> So I am trying to install windows 7 on an ubuntu computer. It does not recognise the pendrive. Anyone have any ideas?
[22:59] <Dr_willis> tuffgong,  python3 --version
[23:00] <Dr_willis> shows 3.3.1 here.
[23:00] <utfans05> Xavierg2003: you do realize that once you do that you will have to rebuild grub using a recovery disk right?
[23:00] <Dr_willis> Xavierg2003,  what pendrive? you are installing win7 FROM a usb pen drive?
[23:00] <Xavierg2003> utfans05-What? No. I am just trying to be rid of Ubuntu entirely. My friend does not like it.
[23:00] <tuffgong> Dr_willis, please see my pm
[23:01] <Xavierg2003> Dr_willis-Yes
[23:01] <utfans05> Xavierg2003: oh ok then
[23:01] <bean> anders3408, i doubt there is a kernel that will optimize your android compiling.
[23:01] <Dr_willis> tuffgong,  you are using gibberish commands looks like to me...
[23:01] <bean> tuffgong, it's usually not good to PM people here.
[23:01] <Dr_willis> tuffgong,  the command is 'python3 --version' No sudo, no apt*
[23:01] <mdfe> Xavierg2003, wen you say 'does not recognise pen drive' di you mean doesnot boot the image, or do you mean cant see the drive?
[23:01] <anders3408> that was not what i mean , but hopefully a kernel that provide good IO to the hdd :)
[23:02] <tuffgong> Dr_willis, bean      @linuxfoundation:~$ python3 --version
[23:02] <tuffgong> Python 3.3.1
[23:02] <Dr_willis> tuffgong,  so... your problem is what exactly?
[23:02] <Xavierg2003> mdfa-Cant see the drive. I can once I open Ubuntu but then it tells me that it can not create the file. In bios when I open the boot menu it does not recognise the existance of a flash drive
[23:02] <arunkumar413> hi, i've installed the elgg on the localhost. now i'm the elgg configuration page. its is asking for site email address. which address should i give
[23:02] <tuffgong> Dr_willis, bean      @linuxfoundation:~$ python3 --version
[23:02] <bean> tuffgong, we saw.
[23:03] <bean> tuffgong, that means that your python 3 installed and up to date.
[23:03] <tuffgong> Dr_willis in to upgrade to the latest version 3.3.1
[23:03] <bean> tuffgong, you have 3.3.1
[23:04] <tuffgong> bean,  but when i type  python --version  @linuxfoundation:~$ python --version
[23:04] <tuffgong> Python 2.7.4
[23:04] <Dr_willis> tuffgong,  thats how they keep the 2 versions seperate.
[23:04] <Dr_willis> anything using python3 needs to specifically call python3
[23:04] <mdfe> tuffgong, if you change the default systme python interpreter to py3 you might break your system
[23:05] <bean> yeah, I do not recommend changing the default python interpreter.
[23:05] <tuffgong> mdfe
[23:06] <tuffgong> mdfe, so i have to left as it is
[23:06] <bean> tuffgong, yeah, but you can still call python3 instead of python.
[23:06] <tuffgong> mdfe, so do i have to left as it is
[23:06] <tuffgong> bean, ok
[23:06] <tuffgong> bean, ok thanks
[23:06] <Dr_willis> tuffgong,  why do you want to change it? if you are writing pyuthon3 stuff.. you make the scripts call python3
[23:07] <Xavierg2003>  mdfa-Cant see the drive. I can once I open Ubuntu but then it tells me that it can not create the file. In bios when I open the boot menu it does not recognise the existance of a flash drive
[23:07] <bean> tuffgong, in IRC, please try to not repeat yourself, and keep all of your responses on one line, make it much easier to read.
[23:07] <mdfe> Xavierg2003, can you format it from ubuntu ?
[23:07] <bean> tuffgong, why are you wanting python3, if you dont mind my asking
[23:07] <tuffgong> Dr_willis,  thanks
[23:08] <Xavierg2003> mdfe its not really letting me do much
[23:08] <mdfe> Xavierg2003, if you use the disk tools in ubuntu (type 'disk' into the dash) can you view and manage the pendrive?
[23:09] <Xavierg2003> mdfe trying that now
[23:11] <Xavierg2003> mdfe it gives the options of disk usage analyser, start up disk creater,
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> Xavierg2003, try disks you want disk management
[23:12] <Xavierg2003> I can see the drives
[23:13] <Ownix> bean: Lubuntu does not see the wireless card. What are my options?
[23:13] <Xavierg2003> wilee-nilee- I can see the drives
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> Xavierg2003, What does the usb show if you run sudo fdisk -l
[23:13] <bean> Ownix, trying other distros to check for compatibilty. How much ram is in the computer?
[23:14] <steven_> anyone here i have a quick question about gaming ith ubuntu
[23:14] <Dr_willis> !ask
[23:14] <utfans05> !ask | steven_
[23:14] <Xavierg2003> wilee-nilee entered sudo fdisk-1 said command not found
[23:14] <Ownix> bean:  this is the laptop hp dv4-111nr
[23:15] <Ownix> Probably 2gb
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> Xavierg2003, That is a small L
[23:15] <mdfe> minus small l not -1
[23:15] <utfans05> Xavierg2003: you need a spave between fdisk and -l
[23:15] <utfans05> space*
[23:15] <utfans05> i cant type tonight.
[23:15] <Xavierg2003> hahahahhaa silly me
[23:15] <bean> Ownix, what is theoutput of "free -m"
[23:16] <Xavierg2003> wilee-nilee: doesn contain valid partition table disk ubuntu-swap_1: 1064 mb etc.
[23:17] <steven_> anyone game on ubuntu
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> Xavierg2003,  I would install gparted and format it if needed make a partition table and reload it, I thought you had an iso on there.
[23:17] <steven_> i have a question about league of legends on ubuntu
[23:18] <Xavierg2003> I do. I have a windows 7 iso on there. Used the universal usb installer program
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> steven_, Basically this is ubuntu support ask a support question.
[23:18] <Xavierg2003> !ask! wilee-nilee
[23:18] <Ownix> bean: 2974
[23:18] <steven_> my league of legends freezes on ubuntu can anyohe help?
[23:18] <Yinseng> Is it at all possible to rsync just the loose files in a folder and not any of the subdirectories?
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> Xavierg2003, Seems like something is wrong with it. A W7 iso can be extracted to a ntfs with a boot flag and boot using ubuntu/linux.
[23:19] <Xavierg2003> wilee-nilee. can be extracted to what with a what?
[23:19] <shape> I'm having problems with mplayer2 getting the right vdpau amd .so file. It still looks for nvidia. I tried to simlink it but then it says invalid -vo. I'm trying to run hardware acceleration (playing 1080p videos) on my Radeon HD 6290. Any suggestions?
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> Xavierg2003, If your usb has a ntfs partition with a boot flag you can exstract the W7 iso to it and it will boot for repair and or install
[23:21] <kunji> Yeah, it's really the easiest way ^_^
[23:21] <steven_> anyone good with league of legends for ubuntu?
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> Xavierg2003,To exstact you mount the iso with the archive manager with a right click on the iso then extract to the usb. I tell you this so you can reformat the usb and have the W7 boot.
[23:22] <utfans05> !ask | steven_
[23:22] <kunji> steven_: sorry, haven't tried that one, is it native, or running through wine or what?  Can you find any logs or if there is an error message, exactly what is it?
[23:22] <kunji> !details | steven_
[23:25] <bean> Ownix, so 3 GB.
[23:25] <kunji> Yinseng: I don't see what not, might need to do it in conjunction with a regexp or something though
[23:25] <bean> Ownix, i'd try regular ubuntu, as well, to see if it recognizes the wifi card.
[23:26] <red_> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop and I am trying to get my gestures back
[23:26] <red_> as of right now all i have is tap
[23:27] <th0r> red_, you might look at the command line program synclient
[23:27] <john_doe_jr> jrib: u still here?
[23:27] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I got a question
[23:27] <M0001> Excuse, I have a question about resetting passwords from GRUB v2.
[23:27] <Jordan_U_> rafaelloest: I am now.
[23:29] <Yinseng> kunji: I think this will work: --exclude='*/' but I worry it might copy symbolic links still
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> M0001, You need the user password changed, give some details here.
[23:30] <john_doe_jr> Alight where would a whitelist be on a ubuntu server?
[23:31] <rafaelloest> Hey jordan
[23:31] <M0001> I have forgotten my su and user password(I set an SU a few months ago and lost where I wrote it down. :S) and found a few reset options that don't seem to apply.  I. E. I cannot seem to access the root password rewrite option because I set an SU.
[23:31] <rafaelloest> how do i open a private with you?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: /msg Jordan_U Hi.  (though I prefer to keep support discussions in-channel)
[23:32] <M0001> I'm trying to avoid reinstalling the entire partition.
[23:33] <rafaelloest> but, ok
[23:33] <rafaelloest> whereaver you prefer
[23:34] <Zolmeister> Hi, does anybody have any suggestions for an ultrabook? (to run Ubuntu on for development)
[23:34] <Jordan_U> M0001: 1: We don't support having a root password set, so please run "passwd --lock root" as soon as you can. 2: Add the kernel parameter "init=/bin/bash" from the grub menu to get a root shell.
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> M0001, Has nothing to do with grub, so that reference is confusing, You will have to look at how to get the passwords cleared without actually having one. Setting a root password is not advised.
[23:35] <M0001> Jordan_U=What line should i put that?
[23:35] <M0001> At the very end?
[23:36] <devfree> vb
[23:36] <Jordan_U> M0001: At the end of the line which begins with "linux" (which, being a long line, will wrap around to multiple on screen lines). You'll probably see "quiet splash ", put it after that.
[23:36] <M0001> Ah, after quiet splash?  So don't delete 'quite splash'?
[23:37] <Jordan_U> M0001: It shouldn't matter one way or the other.
[23:37] <M0001> And afte, I'll be prompted to set a username and password?
[23:38] <derp> sup fools?
[23:38] <Jordan_U> M0001: No, after that you'll be at a root shell where you can run "passwd --lock root && passwd YOUR_USERNAME"
[23:39] <Jordan_U> M0001: Though you may have to run "mount -o remount,rw /" before that (or remove the "ro" kernel parameter, either will allow you to write to the filesystem).
[23:39] <rafaelloest> "/lastlog rafaelloest"
[23:39] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: Without the quotes :)
[23:39] <rafaelloest> dont work either
[23:40] <harris> is the a linux driver for logitech v-uap42
[23:40] <M0001> Alright.
[23:40] <M0001> Going to go try that.
[23:40] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: Ahh, I don't think that freenode's webchat client supports /lastlog, though almost all normal IRC clients do.
[23:41] <rafaelloest> ah, i use freenode because i dont have to install it...
[23:42] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: Try xchat, you can install it (or any other application) within the LiveCD environment.
[23:44] <rafaelloest> should i leave here or not neded?
[23:44] <thufir_> Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.  However, it's <defunct> according to ps.  (pardon if I asked a second ago, wifi stuff)
[23:44] <sabyt> Hey, I have a Sony Vaio intel CPU laptop but when I go to desktop download page it automatically downloads the amd version of ubuntu, should I find the intel one or does the website know best and I should just use the one it gives me?
[23:45] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: You can be connected with two clients at once.
[23:45] <utfans05> sabyt: do you have a 64 bit processor?
[23:45] <thufir_> sabyt: if there's a intel version, I would use that..
[23:45] <Ownix> bean: this did it: sudo apt-get install bcml-kernel-source
[23:45] <sabyt> 64 bit, yes
[23:45] <rafaelloest_> testing
[23:45] <rafaelloest_> work
[23:45]  * thufir_ never heard of "intel" ubuntu, though
[23:45] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: Yes.
[23:46] <rafaelloest_>  change name?
[23:46] <utfans05> sabyt: then the amd 64 bit version is the correct one since amd has the patent on 64 bit technology.
[23:46] <sabyt> thufir. https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/index.html intel version, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/index.html amd version
[23:46] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest_: /nick rafaelloest
[23:46] <sabyt> unless i'm being an idiot
[23:46] <rafaelloest> done
[23:46] <thufir_> sabyt: ok, I stand corrected :)
[23:47] <Jordan_U> sabyt: thufir_: The architecture that both Intel and AMD 64 bit processors use is AMD64, since AMD did it first.
[23:47] <rafaelloest> Jordan_U: how was the log command?
[23:47] <Jordan_U> sabyt: thufir_: So "AMD64" means the same as "x86-64".
[23:47] <thufir_> that makes sense
[23:47] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: /lastlog rafaelloest
[23:47] <utfans05> Jordan_U: basically
[23:48] <sabyt> Oh okay, thanks Jordan_U, so just use the one it automatically gave me then, yeah?
[23:48] <utfans05> sabyt: yes
[23:48] <sabyt> Thank you very much :)
[23:48] <rafaelloest> worked
[23:48] <rafaelloest> tjx
[23:48] <rafaelloest> thx*
[23:48] <thufir_> Firefox is already running, but is not responding. "To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system."  However, it's <defunct> according to ps.  (pardon if I asked a second ago, wifi stuff)  how do I kill a defunct process like that?
[23:49] <rafaelloest> Jordan_U: So, what i need to start?
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> thufir_, killall firefox in the terminal
[23:49] <utfans05> thufir_: type top into terminal find the PID for firefox and then press k insert that number and press enter
[23:50] <netlar> Hate to admit it, but I think linux has beaten me
[23:50] <dang3rm0use> Jordan_U: Sorry to wade into this so late, but only AMD64 bit really matters; intel cam eup with their own version, but it was uselss, so they adopted AMD, after that, 64bit was AMD's version of 64bit, nothing else mattered...
[23:50] <thufir_> I did both, still get:      12557 ?        01:58:10 firefox <defunct>   from ps
[23:50] <Yinseng> okay, this is gonna sound crazy
[23:51] <zvacet> zvacet: /lastlog zvacet
[23:51] <Yinseng> but I think typing rsync --version just deleted a whole bunch of files
[23:52] <utfans05> thufir_: so you typed top in terminal, then with that data still up pressed k and inserted the PID and then pressed enter and followed the prompt asking if you wanted to send a signal 15 to the pid?
[23:52] <netlar> that has to be record or something, having to reinstall after 2 hours of use
[23:52] <thufir_> utfans05: yes
[23:52] <utfans05> thufir_: and it didnt kill firefox?
[23:52] <netlar> I really want to like linux, but don't think it likes me
[23:52] <thufir_> utfans05: it still shows as defunct
[23:53] <thufir_> utfans05: 12557 ?        01:58:10 firefox <defunct>   from ps
[23:53] <utfans05> thufir_: try it again and see if there are other instances of firefox working
[23:53] <M0001> Alright; I got to the root, and it allowed me to reset my UNIX password... but when I typed exit, it... didn't.
[23:53] <M0001> Am I supposed to type exit?
[23:53] <netlar> I can install it fine, but as soon as I start using it BOOM, it blows up
[23:53] <Jordan_U> thufir_: What is the output of "ps -p 12557 -o ppid"?
[23:54] <thufir_> utfans05: did it again, Send pid 12557 signal [15/sigterm]    .  Jordan, output of ps -p 12557 -o ppid  is PPID 1
[23:55] <netlar> Whoever told me to find out if ACPI was the problem, thanks, but all that did was make it unusable again
[23:55] <Jordan_U> M0001: No, since bash was init you just killed init :), I should have thought about that. You'll probably need to reboot, but it shouldn't have hurt anything.
[23:55] <thufir_> netlar: i think, usually, it's drivers for graphic cards, in general, at least.
[23:55] <M0001> @Jodan_U: Alright, how do I reboot from there?  Do I just type in reboot?
[23:55] <noo>  #canada
[23:56] <netlar> thufir_: so I guess that means ubuntu/linux is not right for this machine
[23:56] <thufir_> M0001: shutdown -h 0
[23:56] <M0001> @thufir_: Thank you.
[23:56] <thufir_> netlar: or, rather, that the manufacture doesn't have a good graphics card driver?  dunno, wild guess
[23:57] <Jordan_U> thufir_: I doubt that they have a command prompt anymore.
[23:57] <netlar> Well it is an older machinee
[23:57] <netlar> thufir_: seems to install flawless
[23:57] <thufir_> netlar: what happens?  "blow up"?
[23:58] <netlar> thufir_: will not boot up properly
[23:58] <netlar> thufir_: better description would be that it does not always shut down propertly
[23:58] <rafaelloest> Jordan_U: Jordan?
[23:59] <Jordan_U> thufir_: Please join #upstart and ask what you should do about a defunct process owned by init. I'll try to find a likely related bug report.
[23:59] <subcool> IS there a trick to watch a movie via samba share?
[23:59] <Jordan_U> rafaelloest: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[23:59] <thufir_> Jordan_U: thx
[23:59] <Ben66> netlar: computer specs?
[23:59] <Jordan_U> thufir_: You're welcome.
[23:59] <subcool> i've gotten it to work before, im unsure whats going on right now.
[23:59] <thufir_> netlar: pastebinit dmesg