[06:28] <soee> good morning
[08:35] <soee> yofel_, 4.10.3  is not yet in backports ?
[08:39] <agateau> soee: if it's not too late, you can ask your question :)
[08:39] <soee> agateau, is it possible to set icon size and hide lables in homerun ?
[08:39] <agateau> soee: no it's not possible
[08:40] <soee> agateau, are there any plans to implement it ?
[08:41] <agateau> soee: probably, yes
[08:41] <soee> ;]
[08:44] <soee> agateau, i should add it to wishlist of applet ?
[08:45] <smartboyhw> yofel: Can you fix ksudoku armhf for me please? I'm off computer today.
[09:14] <Peace-> mm i had a strange behavior here on kubuntu 
[09:15] <Peace-> i plugged a new monitor  i got a window  that asked me to try the new monitor 
[09:15] <Peace-> and so i clicked on and i got a very good resolution 1920 x 1080
[09:15] <Peace-> after a reboot it doesn't recognize anymore this resolution 
[09:15] <Peace-> :S
[09:16] <Peace-> driver issue?
[09:17] <smartboyhw> !support
[09:17] <smartboyhw> LOL:P
[09:19] <Peace-> well it's develop 
[09:19] <Peace-> xD
[09:19] <Peace-> cuz it's a bug 
[09:23] <smartboyhw> lol
[09:27] <Tm_T> Peace-: poor excuse
[09:29] <Peace-> Tm_T: do you want i open another bug ? no problem i could open a lots of bugs but untill i am not sure i will not expecially not knowing in which cathery it should be filled  
[09:29] <Riddelll> that's a development issue with kscreen
[09:30] <Peace-> category*
[09:30] <smartboyhw> Hello Riddell
[09:30] <Peace-> Riddell: mm but ... the first time it worked  
[09:30] <Peace-> it seems a driver problem cuz xrand doesn't even recognize others resolutions
[09:31] <Tm_T> cabling?
[09:31] <Peace-> do you mean old cable?
[09:32] <Peace-> just bought monitor and cable btw
[09:32] <Peace-> btw vga
[09:32] <Riddell> that's sounding more like a driver issue then
[09:33] <smartboyhw> Peace-: Should be fixed in 13.04 (I requested sync before)
[09:33] <smartboyhw> Arandr I mean
[09:33] <smartboyhw> Xrandr should work.
[09:34]  * smartboyhw still has that rly troll in mind…
[09:34] <smartboyhw> LOL
[09:35] <Peace-> ok i will investigate better then i will fill a bug report 
[10:46] <yofel_> soee: .3 should be in backports now. I was just too tired to write the announcement yesterday
[10:47] <soee> ok so i update PC at office
[10:47] <smartboyhw> yofel_: Fully tested? 
[10:48] <smartboyhw> And can you fix ksudoku armhf for me:O
[10:48] <yofel_> smartboyhw: testing in my VM that it's not totally broken
[10:48] <yofel_> *tested
[10:48] <smartboyhw> yofel_: :-D
[10:49] <yofel_> meh, gl stuff
[10:50] <soee> no packages inraring backports yet
[10:51] <smartboyhw> yofel_: Yeah
[10:52] <yofel> soee: wrong ppa, you need kubuntu-ppa/ppa for raring (see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuPPAs#Kubuntu_Updates)
[10:52] <soee> hmm
[10:53] <smartboyhw> yofel: Some of the packages in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports still say 4.10.2
[10:54] <yofel> yeah, so?
[10:54] <smartboyhw> yofel: Are they not uploaded or?
[10:54] <yofel> kubuntu-initial-upload in --sru mode skips packages that have 0-diff
[10:54] <yofel> no point in doing no-change rebuilds for SRUs
[10:54] <smartboyhw> yofel: Wow that's a nice feature!
[10:55] <Riddell> http://blogs.kde.org/2013/05/13/re-blog-martin-gr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin-mir-kubuntu
[10:55] <yofel> smartboyhw: thanks go to felix for that ;)
[10:55] <smartboyhw> yofel: ;)
[11:16] <yofel> *sigh*
[11:16] <yofel> I wonder if we'll ge a working qemu-arm by the end of the year...
[11:16] <yofel> *get
[11:17] <smartboyhw> yofel: +1
[11:18] <Riddell> I wonder why we rename oxygencursors to oxygen-cursor-theme
[11:19] <yofel> there's probably some X-cursor-theme package pattern?
[11:21] <smartboyhw> http://spiralinear.org/forum/discussion/1132/gnome-goes-into-damage-control-after-dev-gives-rude-reply-on-bugzilla-
[11:21] <smartboyhw> heh
[11:23] <yofel> well, know you know why I left the gnome world ~4 years ago
[11:23] <yofel> *now
[11:26] <smartboyhw> heh
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:59] <Peace-> Riddell: http://www.stgraber.org/download/releases/kubuntu/13.04/  
[11:59] <Peace-> Riddell: Not Found
[12:00] <Riddell> Peace-: tsk, could you ping stgraber about that?
[12:00] <Peace-> page to download iso from germany  server 
[12:00] <Peace-> sure
[12:00] <Peace-> Riddell: 15 packets transmitted, 15 received, 0% packet loss, time 14019ms
[12:11] <Peace-> Riddell: another little issue i am not sure ... partition manager can't format into ntfs  but gparted can 
[12:11] <Peace-> is it normal ?
[12:14] <yofel> Peace-: shouldn't happen, but partitionmanager seems to have some corner cases where it doesn't work right. Not sure who maintains it these days
[12:15] <Peace-> yofel: btw it doesn't even work on mmc cards
[12:15] <yofel> that I already knew
[12:15] <Peace-> it just doesn't  detect dem 
[12:15] <Peace-> ah ok 
[12:16] <yofel> I've got such a nice mmcblk0 device here which isn't detected
[12:18] <Peace-> yofel: maybe you know but  the latest xserver-xorg-video-intel it's the 2.21.6 o ubuntu 4?
[12:18] <Peace-> in 13.04 of course
[12:18] <yofel> 2:2.21.6-0ubuntu4
[12:20] <Peace-> damnit i did an upgrade yesterday and the monitor doesn't work properly 
[12:21] <yofel> hm, what I'm curious about is "i plugged a new monitor  i got a window  that asked me to try the new monitor"
[12:21] <yofel> kscreen doesn't *ask* you before adjusting resolutions. It just goes ahead and does it
[12:21] <Peace-> wait i will do a screenshot
[12:21] <yofel> krandr did that
[12:21] <Peace-> welll yes i have krandr
[12:23] <Peace-> i use krandr often to change settings via systemtray
[12:23] <yofel> we have a rather destructive patch in kde-workspace which disables krandrstartup in startkde
[12:23] <yofel> maybe it's that
[12:24] <Peace-> yofel: well but via terminal i can't get teh correct resolutions i mean with xrandr
[12:24] <Peace-> yofel: 3 4 days ago a got via xrandr a lots of resolutions for this monitors 
[12:25] <yofel> oh, then it's probably a driver issue indeed
[12:25] <Peace-> yep
[12:25] <yofel> what does the EDID info in the X log say?
[12:25] <Peace-> now i am trying to download the live
[12:25] <Peace-> let me do cat grep
[12:26] <Peace-> [    51.296] (II) intel(0): EDID for output LVDS1
[12:26] <Peace-> [    51.328] (II) intel(0): EDID for output VGA1
[12:26] <Peace-> [    51.328] (II) intel(0): EDID for output TV1
[12:26] <yofel> just pastebin the whole log, we need the surrounding parts
[12:27] <Peace-> yofel: this one ? /var/log/Xorg.0.log 
[12:27] <yofel> yep
[12:29] <Peace-> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5661090/  btw to the end you will see 1920 cuz i was trying to do how i read on ubuntu wiki , you know xrandr --addmode etc etc 
[12:30] <Peace-> but by default now rebooting again it doesn't recognize all the resolutions 
[12:45] <yofel> Peace-: I don't know, the closest I can get to your chipset is a 945GME, but that recognises my monitor fine: http://paste.kde.org/742796
[12:46] <Peace-> yofel:  i follow the develop of kubuntu from alphas  maybe i fucked up something i will try with a live if it works i will reinstall everything , i have a separated home , then i will hold back kernel and video drivers 
[12:46] <Peace-> yofel: thank you for your efforts
[12:48] <Peace-> yofel: btw which monitor do you use?
[12:50] <yofel> that's a samsung syncmaster PX2370 
[12:50] <yofel> connected to an eeepc 1000h
[12:54] <Peace-> yofel: i have samsung s24b350h
[12:57] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] Window Managers instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar)
[13:33] <smartboyhw_> The Freenode servers are getting crazy these days…
[13:55] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[13:59] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] Window Managers instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar)
[15:07] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] Window Managers instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar)
[15:12] <Peace-> yofel: :) reinstalled same results
[15:12] <Peace-> monitor just is not recognized well 
[17:30] <Quintasan_> \o
[17:53] <Darkwing> Well, I ran out of petrol for my mower and I broke my shovel... I think I'm done with yardwork till my girlfriend gets home.
[18:00] <Quintasan> Darkwing: How does one break a shovel?
[18:01] <Darkwing> digging out bushes. lol
[18:02] <Quintasan> I see.
[18:02] <Quintasan> Darkwing: Well, I managed to break one by repeatadly hitting a pile of bricks with it so that's why I was wondering how did you break yours
[18:03] <Darkwing> http://imm.io/15SH4
[18:03] <ahoneybun> pl
[18:03] <ahoneybun> sorry
[18:05] <Quintasan> Oh
[18:05] <Quintasan> Darkwing: Well, I broke the metal part
[18:06] <Darkwing> Quintasan: lol 
[18:06] <Quintasan> But I don't think it's really strange when hitting bricks
[18:06] <Darkwing> not too stange no.
[18:06] <Darkwing> Dang. I need to check my email while on holiday more often.
[18:06] <Quintasan> How is that metal part actually called?
[18:06] <Darkwing> the spade?
[18:06]  * Quintasan wonders about the strangest things instead of doing his project for uni
[18:07] <Quintasan> Gotta note that down
[18:07] <Quintasan> Might as well as know the part I might end up hitting people with :P
[18:08] <Darkwing> Oh boy. :P
[18:08]  * Quintasan looks at shadeslayer
[18:08] <Quintasan> Well, jokes aside, gotta get some food
[18:08] <Darkwing> I have 3400 emails to sort
[18:10] <Quintasan> OH LOL
[18:10] <Quintasan> Darkwing: I can offer you SOLVE IT ALL SOLUTION
[18:10] <Quintasan> Darkwing: CTRL + A, CTRL + R
[18:10] <Quintasan> ?????
[18:10] <Quintasan> PROFIT
[18:10] <Darkwing> LOL No, there are some I need
[18:11] <Quintasan> Well, good luck then Darkwing
[18:12] <Guest19724> Hi I am having a strange error in regrds to the xmind package. Could someone here maybe help me?
[18:13] <Guest19724> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 18600 package 'xmind'
[18:13] <Quintasan> Guest19724: This is not a repository package, right? I can recall installing it quite a few days ago
[18:13] <Guest19724> its in the status file and this error prevents me to do anything to adjust packages from terminal
[18:14] <Quintasan> Guest19724: Can you paste the whole file on pastebin?
[18:15] <Guest19724> I can if you can walk me through it since I'm having to do this completely from terminal as i have no current gui due to this issue and the phython minmal bug for ubuntu
[18:21] <Quintasan> Guest19724: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:22] <Quintasan> Guest19724: cat /var/lib/dpkg/status | pastebinit and give me the link
[18:22] <Guest19724> ok
[18:22] <Guest19724> I am in the document at the moment was looking at line 18600 with vi command. how do i get out of it?
[18:25] <Quintasan> Guest19724: press escape at least 10 times to be sure
[18:25] <Quintasan> and press :wq!
[18:25] <lordievader> :q! is better, :w saves the file.
[18:26] <Quintasan> hmm
[18:26] <Quintasan> yeah
[18:26] <Guest19724> I'll just reboot t obe safer
[18:29] <Guest19724> i don't know if it was able to install pastebinit successfully since i get alot of depency listings.
[18:32] <Guest19724> yeah it wasn't able to install pastebinit due to depency issue. :(
[18:33] <Guest19724> and when i try to do -f it doesn't work because of the python minimal bug. T_T
[18:33] <Quintasan> hmm
[18:33] <Guest19724> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/+bug/990740
[18:33] <Quintasan> Guest19724: What bug?
[18:33] <Quintasan> Wat
[18:34] <Quintasan> You're upgrading from lucid to raring?
[18:34] <Guest19724> well i did
[18:34] <Quintasan> Oh, I see.
[18:34] <Guest19724> and it seemes it got majorly messed up
[18:35] <Guest19724> the gdm is out of date so i cant use the gui. the depency are keeping me locked on installs and i can't reinstall the upgrade packages due to the configure bug. yeah I messed it up good. :(
[18:35] <Quintasan> Guest19724: Truth be told you might want to restore dpkg.status.0 from /var/backups
[18:35] <Quintasan> Guest19724: Or just remove the xmind package with dpkg
[18:36] <Quintasan> sudo dpkg -r xmind
[18:36] <Guest19724> ok i'll try that
[18:37] <Quintasan> That said I'm actually surprised the upgrade failed since it's supposed to work since it's LTS-to-LTS, right?
[18:37] <Guest19724> yeah and when i try to do purge or -r i get this> error again 
[18:38] <Quintasan> Guest19724: with dpkg?
[18:38] <Guest19724> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 18600 package 'xmind': blank line in value of field 'Description'
[18:38] <Quintasan> oh
[18:39] <Quintasan> Guest19724: sudo nano +18600 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[18:39] <Quintasan> Write something after Description: 
[18:39] <Quintasan> CTRL+X saves the files
[18:39] <Quintasan> check if putting something there helps
[18:39] <Quintasan> if not I'd just restore the file from /var/backups
[18:41] <Guest19724> line 18600 says task management, and GTD. Xmind is compatible with Freemind/Mindmanager. after that is a black line.
[18:42] <Guest19724> put a dot in the blank line maybe? 18601
[18:42] <Guest19724> blank*
[18:44] <Guest19724> ok i saved it.
[18:46] <Guest19724> putting a dot in hte line didn't make the problem go away.
[18:49] <Guest19724> How do i restore file from /var/backups?
[18:56] <Quintasan> Guest19724: sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status-corrupted
[18:57] <Quintasan> Guest19724: sudo cp /var/lib/backups/dpkg.status.0 /var/lib/dpkg/
[18:57] <Quintasan> sudo tar zxvf /var/lib/dpkg/dpkg.status.0
[18:58] <Quintasan> Guest19724: Sorry, ignore the last command
[18:58] <Quintasan> sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/dpkg.status.0 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[18:58] <Quintasan> Use this since the last state is not gzipped
[18:58] <Quintasan> then do apt-get update
[18:58] <Quintasan> sudo apt-get update
[18:59] <Quintasan> and sudo apt-get -f install
[19:16] <Guest19724> for this line> sudo cp /var/lib/backups/dpkg.status.0 /var/lib/dpkg/ it says it cannot stat
[19:17] <Quintasan> Guest19724: It should be /var/backups
[19:17] <Quintasan> sorry
[19:17] <Guest19724> can you just retype it since folder paths tend to get confusing at this level of depth and i dont want to break something else by accident. :(
[19:17] <BluesKaj> cp -r . perhaps ?
[19:17] <Quintasan> argh
[19:17] <Quintasan> Guest19724: sudo cp /var/backups/dpkg.status.0 /var/lib/dpkg/
[19:18] <Guest19724> ok i did that command
[19:20] <Quintasan> sudo apt-get update
[19:20] <Quintasan> sudo apt-get -f install
[19:20] <Guest19724> yep running that and -f
[19:22] <Quintasan> And?
[19:22] <Guest19724> its still installing its at 24%
[19:22] <Quintasan> good
[19:22] <Quintasan> That means it's working
[19:22] <Quintasan> You have to wait until it's done or it breaks for some reason
[19:22] <Guest19724> not exactly. we still got to take care of python-minimal configuration at the end. :(
[19:23] <Guest19724> assuming by some miracle it doesn't break this time. T_T
[19:24] <Quintasan> If it's broken then I'm afraid I can't help you with that. I dabbled in some python magic long time ago
[19:25] <Quintasan> Guest19724: I didn't read  the bug in detail, aren't there any workaround posted?
[19:25] <Guest19724> yes this one here which is what i'm going to try if it breaks> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2012-September/263773.html
[19:26] <Darkwing> Greetings ScottK
[19:27] <Quintasan> Hey schmidtm
[19:27] <Quintasan> well
[19:27] <ScottK> Darkwing: Howdy.
[19:27] <Quintasan> tabfail
[19:28] <Guest19724> thanks for the help non-the-less Quin you at least helped me fix one problem with this install. :P
[19:33] <Guest19724> it broke again and sadly the 18600 error message is still there.
[19:34] <Guest19724> so i cant python until i fix that error in xmind
[19:34] <Guest19724> fix*
[19:35] <Guest19724> Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix that xmind error?
[19:36] <yofel> is that blocking the upgrade? If yes, can you purge it?
[19:36] <Quintasan> What yofel said
[19:36] <Quintasan> Guest19724: sudo cp /var/backups/dpkg.status.0 /var/lib/dpkg/
[19:36] <Quintasan> and try purging that package
[19:36] <Quintasan> if it doesn't work then try dpkg --purge --force-all xmind
[19:36] <Guest19724> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 18600 package 'xmind': newline in field name '.'
[19:37] <Guest19724> thats what it said when i try to remove python^
[19:38] <yofel> Guest19724: why remove python?
[19:38] <Guest19724> sudo apt-get purge xmind does thhis.
[19:38] <Guest19724> i get a long list of dependcies and it doesn't remove it. :(
[19:38] <yofel> try what Quintasan said
[19:39] <Guest19724> yofel> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2012-September/263773.html
[19:39] <Quintasan> Guest19724: NO, damn, no apt, don't use apt
[19:39] <Quintasan>  sudo dpkg --purge --force-all xmind
[19:40] <Guest19724> i tried that command quin and get the same error posted before for python
[19:40] <yofel> Guest19724: sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status
[19:40] <yofel> try again
[19:41] <Guest19724> ok done
[19:42] <Guest19724> ok i get this after running that command quin
[19:42] <Guest19724> the blank line value of field 'Description' for xmind error message
[19:43] <Guest19724> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 18600 package 'xmind':   blank line in value of field 'Description'
[19:45] <Quintasan> hurrrrrrrrrr
[19:45] <yofel> hm
[19:45] <yofel> Guest19724: how does the field look like right now?
[19:45] <yofel> it should be something like:
[19:45] <yofel> Description: foo
[19:45] <yofel> [space] foo
[19:45] <yofel> [space] .
[19:45] <yofel> [space] bar
[19:46] <yofel> after that either a new Field without a space or an empty line followed by the next Package:
[19:47] <yofel> just look at the other description fields in the file
[19:48] <Guest19724> can you toss me commands on how to close nano?
[19:48] <Guest19724> still relearning how to navigate
[19:49] <yofel> Ctrl+x, y/n
[19:49] <Guest19724> ok i am at the line
[19:51] <Guest19724> that line has task management, and GTD. Xmind is compatible with Freemind/Mindmanager. on the next line 16001 is just blank followed by a paragraph about editions on the next line 16002
[19:52] <yofel> just blank? i.e. an empty line?
[19:52] <Guest19724> yep
[19:52] <yofel> go to that line and insert <space>.
[19:53] <yofel> i.e. a space, and .
[19:53] <yofel> so it looks like I said above
[19:53] <Guest19724> ok so hitspace bar and inasert a period.
[19:53] <yofel> right
[19:54] <yofel> the space was probably missing last time you tried
[19:54] <Guest19724> ok did it lets see if that fixed it.
[19:54] <yofel> (guessing from the error message)
[19:54] <Guest19724> what should i do first just to make sure i dont break it again
[19:55] <Guest19724> update try to remove python etc etc
[19:55] <yofel> uh, start with dpkg --configure -a to see whether it works at all
[19:56] <Guest19724> i made it to package configuration. 
[19:56] <Guest19724> does that mean it worked?
[19:56] <yofel> well, I assume so. Now you can try to fix python
[19:57] <Guest19724> awesome, thank you yofel.
[19:57] <yofel> thank me after apt stops complaining ^^
[20:00] <Guest19724> well as a shocker it failed to parse the gnome desktop. :P
[20:02] <Guest19724> omg it finally worked. nice work yofel its uninstalling python now.
[20:07] <Guest19724> I made it to 
[20:07] <Guest19724> dpkg --install --force-all python_2.7.1-0ubuntu5_all.deb
[20:07] <Guest19724> and now it says error parsing file for line 19471 package 'xmind'. 
[20:07] <Guest19724> another space and dot i guess...
[20:10] <Guest19724> you still there yofel? on line 19471 it reads Package: libtasn1-3-dev there is a blank line on 19470 and finally 19472 has Status: install ok installed.
[20:11] <yofel> that's fine
[20:11] <Guest19724> how do i fix this error?
[20:11] <yofel> try searching for xmind in the file
[20:11] <yofel> maybe it got the wrong line
[20:13] <Guest19724> whats the command for search?
[20:13] <Guest19724> using nano
[20:14] <yofel> hm, going from the legend try ctrl+2
[20:14] <yofel> er
[20:14] <yofel> ctrl+w
[20:16] <Guest19724> firstone is the http link
[20:17] <Guest19724> so basically look for anything that has xmind wit ha slight alteration?
[20:20] <Guest19724> only things i found were in certain parts it had XMind and others it had just xmind. 
[20:20] <Guest19724> could this be a problem?
[20:21] <yofel> I can't really say without the whole file... and I'm a bit lost with just that error now
[20:21] <Guest19724> yeah and were so close t ofixing python potentially... ah it kills me 
[20:22] <yofel> is "error parsing file for line 19471 package 'xmind'." really all it says?
[20:25] <Guest19724> it has Package: libtasn1-3-dev
[20:25] <yofel> I mean as error message
[20:26] <yofel> I kind of remember fixing something like that months ago, and back then dpkg printed the wrong error line
[20:28] <Guest19724> it reads> dpkg error: parsing file 'var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 19471 package 'xmind': blank line in value of field 'Description'
[20:29] <yofel> geh, now that file's broken too
[20:29] <yofel> Guest19724: try as a quick fix: sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[20:29] <Guest19724> theres a blank line on 19472. :P
[20:30] <Guest19724> ok i ran that command.
[20:30] <Guest19724> what now?
[20:30] <yofel> try python again
[20:32] <Guest19724> ok i got this
[20:33] <Guest19724> error processing python_2.7.1-0ubuntu5_all.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: python 2.7.1-0ubuntu5_all.deb
[20:34] <yofel> the .deb doesn't exist
[20:34] <yofel> maybe start with apt-get install -f
[20:34] <Guest19724> ok
[20:34] <yofel> now that dpkg itself works again
[20:36] <Guest19724> ok i did that
[20:38] <Guest19724> i got the same message after running the -f command
[20:38] <yofel> huh
[20:38] <Guest19724> i don't know why
[20:38] <yofel> try sudo apt-get check, then try again
[20:39] <Guest19724> okyeah i did that then i did -f command and still get the error
[20:40] <yofel> weird. Ok, lets start fresh: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update
[20:40] <yofel> *then* try again
[20:42] <Guest19724> wow just cant win here
[20:42] <yofel> again?
[20:44] <Guest19724> i did these in this order> sudo apt-get clean, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get check, then tried python
[20:44] <yofel> looks reasonable. same error?
[20:45] <Guest19724> yep
[20:45] <Guest19724> just ran it again just ot make sure :(
[20:45] <yofel> does a file named python 2.7.1-0ubuntu5_all.deb exist in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[20:46] <Guest19724> for ls i get lock and partial 
[20:47] <Guest19724> nothing is in partial folder.
[20:47] <Guest19724> for ls
[20:47] <yofel> you do have a network connection?
[20:48] <Guest19724> i can check. what were the commands again?
[20:48] <yofel> just ping google.com and you'll know
[20:49] <Guest19724> yes I do
[20:49] <Guest19724> pinged successfully
[20:49] <Guest19724> now how do i make it stop pinging?
[20:49] <yofel> *sigh*, why does it try to install something that it didn't download...
[20:49] <yofel> ctrl+c
[20:51] <Guest19724> yeah linux hates me. last time for karmic update it took me three days to get that working. :(
[20:52] <yofel> well, *this* shouldn't happen really. Though xmind is broken packaging wise, really
[20:53] <yofel> what release were you upgrading to again? 
[20:53] <yofel> there's no recent release that has python 2.7.1, it's either 2.7.3 or 2.7.4
[20:53] <Guest19724> I was running the server version of lucid and upgraded to precision version 12.04.02
[20:54] <Guest19724> when i got to the login screen i found the gui wasn't working and have been working on it since yesterday.
[20:56] <Guest19724> I upgraded it using the manager and it had it listed in there.
[20:56] <Guest19724> kind of wish i had used the terminal now since maybe it might of not broke...
[20:57] <yofel> nah, I would blame xmind, but that's neither your nor our fault really, just dpkg being too sensitive
[20:57] <yofel> ok
[20:57] <yofel> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-defaults/
[20:57] <yofel> ^ has the .deb it complained was missing
[20:58] <yofel> what you can try now is to download what you need by hand using 'wget URL' into /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:58] <yofel> then you can dpkg --install --force-depends <deb>
[20:58] <yofel> try apt-get install -f
[20:58] <yofel> and repeat that until it stops complaining about missing archive files
[20:58] <yofel> I have to run for today, bye
[20:59] <Guest19724> ok so when i do wget url what do  itype to specify where it will stick it?
[21:00] <Guest19724> or will it stick it where it needs to go automatically?
[21:00] <yofel> uh, forgot how to do that. Just cd into /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:00] <yofel> that'll be easiest
[21:00] <yofel> it'll always download it into the current directory
[21:02] <Guest19724> wow really a 404 error.
[21:03] <Guest19724> nvm i got it
[21:16] <Guest19724> Can someone post the commands to wget archives because I don't think it got the archive instead it made a index.html file. 
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[23:44] <ahoneybun> Hey Riddell valorie 
[23:44] <valorie> greets
[23:45] <ahoneybun> valorie: how's the doc
[23:45] <valorie> I did some editing yesterday
[23:46] <valorie> I still think the pagename for KubuntuBasics should be Basics
[23:46] <valorie> anyway
[23:46] <ahoneybun> Cool I got on after you were talking with Riddell  but I fixed what he said
[23:46] <valorie> I think we are getting them whipped into shape
[23:47] <valorie> what are you thinking about next?
[23:47] <ahoneybun> Editing wise?
[23:48] <ahoneybun> If you think it would be better a different name go for it
[23:48] <valorie> ah, I see a note to me
[23:48] <valorie> will get on that asap
[23:48]  * valorie is reading the trello
[23:48] <ahoneybun> On trello?
[23:49] <ahoneybun> Oh
[23:49] <valorie> excellent work setting that up
[23:49] <valorie> thank you
[23:49] <ahoneybun> NP :)
[23:49] <valorie> yikes, my power is blinking
[23:49] <valorie> thunderstorm
[23:49] <ahoneybun> Same on my phone
[23:50] <valorie> what do you think about adding About to the main RR page?
[23:50] <valorie> it's so short, and About is short as well
[23:50] <ahoneybun> That's could work
[23:50] <ahoneybun> That
[23:51] <ahoneybun> That's cool
[23:51] <valorie> just a thought while I was browsing through, to get an overview
[23:52] <valorie> I'll start using the trello now so we don't have to rely on reading backlog here
[23:52] <valorie> between us
[23:52] <ahoneybun> That would be cool
[23:52] <ahoneybun> Overview?
[23:53] <valorie> an overall look at our docs
[23:53] <valorie> sorry, dinner time here
[23:53] <ahoneybun> What do you think of 
[23:54] <ahoneybun> The about and welcome pages
[23:55] <valorie> I'll have to look later, once I get back from my dad's
[23:55] <valorie> sorry
[23:55] <ahoneybun> Oh OK I'll be on later
[23:55] <ahoneybun> Well till my phone dies