=== claydoh_ is now known as claydoh === jussi01 is now known as jussi === fabo_ is now known as fabo [06:28] good morning === schmidtm__ is now known as schmidtm [08:35] yofel_, 4.10.3 is not yet in backports ? [08:39] soee: if it's not too late, you can ask your question :) [08:39] agateau, is it possible to set icon size and hide lables in homerun ? [08:39] soee: no it's not possible [08:40] agateau, are there any plans to implement it ? [08:41] soee: probably, yes [08:41] ;] === who_da_fly is now known as superfly [08:44] agateau, i should add it to wishlist of applet ? [08:45] yofel: Can you fix ksudoku armhf for me please? I'm off computer today. [09:14] mm i had a strange behavior here on kubuntu [09:15] i plugged a new monitor i got a window that asked me to try the new monitor [09:15] and so i clicked on and i got a very good resolution 1920 x 1080 [09:15] after a reboot it doesn't recognize anymore this resolution [09:15] :S [09:16] driver issue? [09:17] !support [09:17] The official Kubuntu support channel is #kubuntu. Please be aware that this channel is for development only. [09:17] LOL:P [09:19] well it's develop [09:19] xD [09:19] cuz it's a bug [09:23] lol [09:27] Peace-: poor excuse [09:29] Tm_T: do you want i open another bug ? no problem i could open a lots of bugs but untill i am not sure i will not expecially not knowing in which cathery it should be filled [09:29] that's a development issue with kscreen [09:30] category* === Riddelll is now known as Riddell [09:30] Hello Riddell [09:30] Riddell: mm but ... the first time it worked [09:30] it seems a driver problem cuz xrand doesn't even recognize others resolutions [09:31] cabling? [09:31] do you mean old cable? [09:32] just bought monitor and cable btw [09:32] btw vga [09:32] that's sounding more like a driver issue then [09:33] Peace-: Should be fixed in 13.04 (I requested sync before) [09:33] Arandr I mean [09:33] Xrandr should work. [09:34] * smartboyhw still has that rly troll in mind… [09:34] LOL [09:35] ok i will investigate better then i will fill a bug report === Squt is now known as Sput [10:46] soee: .3 should be in backports now. I was just too tired to write the announcement yesterday [10:47] ok so i update PC at office [10:47] yofel_: Fully tested? [10:48] And can you fix ksudoku armhf for me:O [10:48] smartboyhw: testing in my VM that it's not totally broken [10:48] *tested [10:48] yofel_: :-D [10:49] meh, gl stuff === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:50] no packages inraring backports yet [10:51] yofel_: Yeah [10:52] soee: wrong ppa, you need kubuntu-ppa/ppa for raring (see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuPPAs#Kubuntu_Updates) [10:52] hmm [10:53] yofel: Some of the packages in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports still say 4.10.2 [10:54] yeah, so? [10:54] yofel: Are they not uploaded or? [10:54] kubuntu-initial-upload in --sru mode skips packages that have 0-diff [10:54] no point in doing no-change rebuilds for SRUs [10:54] yofel: Wow that's a nice feature! [10:55] http://blogs.kde.org/2013/05/13/re-blog-martin-gr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin-mir-kubuntu [10:55] smartboyhw: thanks go to felix for that ;) [10:55] yofel: ;) === tsdgeos_ is now known as tsdgeos [11:16] *sigh* [11:16] I wonder if we'll ge a working qemu-arm by the end of the year... [11:16] *get [11:17] yofel: +1 [11:18] I wonder why we rename oxygencursors to oxygen-cursor-theme [11:19] there's probably some X-cursor-theme package pattern? [11:21] http://spiralinear.org/forum/discussion/1132/gnome-goes-into-damage-control-after-dev-gives-rude-reply-on-bugzilla- [11:21] heh [11:23] well, know you know why I left the gnome world ~4 years ago [11:23] *now [11:26] heh === debfx_ is now known as debfx [11:37] Hiyas all === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter === mck182 is now known as mck182_ [11:59] Riddell: http://www.stgraber.org/download/releases/kubuntu/13.04/ [11:59] Riddell: Not Found [12:00] Peace-: tsk, could you ping stgraber about that? [12:00] page to download iso from germany server [12:00] sure [12:00] Riddell: 15 packets transmitted, 15 received, 0% packet loss, time 14019ms === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [12:11] Riddell: another little issue i am not sure ... partition manager can't format into ntfs but gparted can [12:11] is it normal ? [12:14] Peace-: shouldn't happen, but partitionmanager seems to have some corner cases where it doesn't work right. Not sure who maintains it these days [12:15] yofel: btw it doesn't even work on mmc cards [12:15] that I already knew [12:15] it just doesn't detect dem [12:15] ah ok [12:16] I've got such a nice mmcblk0 device here which isn't detected [12:18] yofel: maybe you know but the latest xserver-xorg-video-intel it's the 2.21.6 o ubuntu 4? [12:18] in 13.04 of course [12:18] 2:2.21.6-0ubuntu4 [12:20] damnit i did an upgrade yesterday and the monitor doesn't work properly [12:21] hm, what I'm curious about is "i plugged a new monitor i got a window that asked me to try the new monitor" [12:21] kscreen doesn't *ask* you before adjusting resolutions. It just goes ahead and does it [12:21] wait i will do a screenshot [12:21] krandr did that [12:21] welll yes i have krandr [12:23] i use krandr often to change settings via systemtray [12:23] we have a rather destructive patch in kde-workspace which disables krandrstartup in startkde [12:23] maybe it's that [12:24] yofel: well but via terminal i can't get teh correct resolutions i mean with xrandr [12:24] yofel: 3 4 days ago a got via xrandr a lots of resolutions for this monitors [12:25] oh, then it's probably a driver issue indeed [12:25] yep [12:25] what does the EDID info in the X log say? [12:25] now i am trying to download the live [12:25] let me do cat grep [12:26] [ 51.296] (II) intel(0): EDID for output LVDS1 [12:26] [ 51.328] (II) intel(0): EDID for output VGA1 [12:26] [ 51.328] (II) intel(0): EDID for output TV1 [12:26] just pastebin the whole log, we need the surrounding parts [12:27] yofel: this one ? /var/log/Xorg.0.log [12:27] yep [12:29] yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5661090/ btw to the end you will see 1920 cuz i was trying to do how i read on ubuntu wiki , you know xrandr --addmode etc etc [12:30] but by default now rebooting again it doesn't recognize all the resolutions [12:45] Peace-: I don't know, the closest I can get to your chipset is a 945GME, but that recognises my monitor fine: http://paste.kde.org/742796 [12:46] yofel: i follow the develop of kubuntu from alphas maybe i fucked up something i will try with a live if it works i will reinstall everything , i have a separated home , then i will hold back kernel and video drivers [12:46] yofel: thank you for your efforts [12:48] yofel: btw which monitor do you use? [12:50] that's a samsung syncmaster PX2370 [12:50] connected to an eeepc 1000h === tsdgeos_ is now known as tsdgeos [12:54] yofel: i have samsung s24b350h [12:57] ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] Window Managers instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar) === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [13:33] The Freenode servers are getting crazy these days… === who_da_fly is now known as superfly [13:55] Good afternoon. [13:59] ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] Window Managers instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar) === skaet is now known as 18WADHLGX === jessie_ is now known as jessie === lordieva1er is now known as lordievader [15:07] ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] Window Managers instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar) [15:12] yofel: :) reinstalled same results [15:12] monitor just is not recognized well === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz === sem_ is now known as Peace- [17:30] \o === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === jesssie__ is now known as jessie__ === jessie is now known as Guest5080 === Guest5080 is now known as jessie__ === who_da_fly is now known as superfly === smarter__ is now known as smarter [17:53] Well, I ran out of petrol for my mower and I broke my shovel... I think I'm done with yardwork till my girlfriend gets home. [18:00] Darkwing: How does one break a shovel? [18:01] digging out bushes. lol [18:02] I see. [18:02] Darkwing: Well, I managed to break one by repeatadly hitting a pile of bricks with it so that's why I was wondering how did you break yours [18:03] http://imm.io/15SH4 [18:03] pl [18:03] sorry [18:05] Oh [18:05] Darkwing: Well, I broke the metal part [18:06] Quintasan: lol [18:06] But I don't think it's really strange when hitting bricks [18:06] not too stange no. [18:06] Dang. I need to check my email while on holiday more often. [18:06] How is that metal part actually called? [18:06] the spade? [18:06] * Quintasan wonders about the strangest things instead of doing his project for uni [18:07] Gotta note that down [18:07] Might as well as know the part I might end up hitting people with :P [18:08] Oh boy. :P [18:08] * Quintasan looks at shadeslayer [18:08] Well, jokes aside, gotta get some food [18:08] I have 3400 emails to sort [18:10] OH LOL [18:10] Darkwing: I can offer you SOLVE IT ALL SOLUTION [18:10] Darkwing: CTRL + A, CTRL + R [18:10] ????? [18:10] PROFIT [18:10] LOL No, there are some I need [18:11] Well, good luck then Darkwing [18:12] Hi I am having a strange error in regrds to the xmind package. Could someone here maybe help me? [18:13] dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 18600 package 'xmind' [18:13] Guest19724: This is not a repository package, right? I can recall installing it quite a few days ago [18:13] its in the status file and this error prevents me to do anything to adjust packages from terminal [18:14] Guest19724: Can you paste the whole file on pastebin? [18:15] I can if you can walk me through it since I'm having to do this completely from terminal as i have no current gui due to this issue and the phython minmal bug for ubuntu [18:21] Guest19724: sudo apt-get install pastebinit [18:22] Guest19724: cat /var/lib/dpkg/status | pastebinit and give me the link [18:22] ok [18:22] I am in the document at the moment was looking at line 18600 with vi command. how do i get out of it? [18:25] Guest19724: press escape at least 10 times to be sure [18:25] and press :wq! [18:25] :q! is better, :w saves the file. [18:26] hmm [18:26] yeah [18:26] I'll just reboot t obe safer [18:29] i don't know if it was able to install pastebinit successfully since i get alot of depency listings. [18:32] yeah it wasn't able to install pastebinit due to depency issue. :( [18:33] and when i try to do -f it doesn't work because of the python minimal bug. T_T [18:33] hmm [18:33] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/+bug/990740 [18:33] Launchpad bug 990740 in python-defaults (Ubuntu) "upgrading from lucid to precise fails" [High,Invalid] [18:33] Guest19724: What bug? [18:33] Wat [18:34] You're upgrading from lucid to raring? [18:34] well i did [18:34] Oh, I see. [18:34] and it seemes it got majorly messed up [18:35] the gdm is out of date so i cant use the gui. the depency are keeping me locked on installs and i can't reinstall the upgrade packages due to the configure bug. yeah I messed it up good. :( [18:35] Guest19724: Truth be told you might want to restore dpkg.status.0 from /var/backups [18:35] Guest19724: Or just remove the xmind package with dpkg [18:36] sudo dpkg -r xmind [18:36] ok i'll try that [18:37] That said I'm actually surprised the upgrade failed since it's supposed to work since it's LTS-to-LTS, right? [18:37] yeah and when i try to do purge or -r i get this> error again [18:38] Guest19724: with dpkg? [18:38] dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 18600 package 'xmind': blank line in value of field 'Description' [18:38] oh [18:39] Guest19724: sudo nano +18600 /var/lib/dpkg/status [18:39] Write something after Description: [18:39] CTRL+X saves the files [18:39] check if putting something there helps [18:39] if not I'd just restore the file from /var/backups [18:41] line 18600 says task management, and GTD. Xmind is compatible with Freemind/Mindmanager. after that is a black line. [18:42] put a dot in the blank line maybe? 18601 [18:42] blank* [18:44] ok i saved it. [18:46] putting a dot in hte line didn't make the problem go away. [18:49] How do i restore file from /var/backups? [18:56] Guest19724: sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status-corrupted [18:57] Guest19724: sudo cp /var/lib/backups/dpkg.status.0 /var/lib/dpkg/ [18:57] sudo tar zxvf /var/lib/dpkg/dpkg.status.0 [18:58] Guest19724: Sorry, ignore the last command [18:58] sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/dpkg.status.0 /var/lib/dpkg/status [18:58] Use this since the last state is not gzipped [18:58] then do apt-get update [18:58] sudo apt-get update [18:59] and sudo apt-get -f install [19:16] for this line> sudo cp /var/lib/backups/dpkg.status.0 /var/lib/dpkg/ it says it cannot stat [19:17] Guest19724: It should be /var/backups [19:17] sorry [19:17] can you just retype it since folder paths tend to get confusing at this level of depth and i dont want to break something else by accident. :( [19:17] cp -r . perhaps ? [19:17] argh [19:17] Guest19724: sudo cp /var/backups/dpkg.status.0 /var/lib/dpkg/ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:18] ok i did that command [19:20] sudo apt-get update [19:20] sudo apt-get -f install [19:20] yep running that and -f [19:22] And? [19:22] its still installing its at 24% [19:22] good [19:22] That means it's working [19:22] You have to wait until it's done or it breaks for some reason [19:22] not exactly. we still got to take care of python-minimal configuration at the end. :( [19:23] assuming by some miracle it doesn't break this time. T_T [19:24] If it's broken then I'm afraid I can't help you with that. I dabbled in some python magic long time ago [19:25] Guest19724: I didn't read the bug in detail, aren't there any workaround posted? [19:25] yes this one here which is what i'm going to try if it breaks> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2012-September/263773.html === ScottK2 is now known as ScottK [19:26] Greetings ScottK [19:27] Hey schmidtm [19:27] well [19:27] Darkwing: Howdy. [19:27] tabfail [19:28] thanks for the help non-the-less Quin you at least helped me fix one problem with this install. :P [19:33] it broke again and sadly the 18600 error message is still there. [19:34] so i cant python until i fix that error in xmind [19:34] fix* [19:35] Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix that xmind error? [19:36] is that blocking the upgrade? If yes, can you purge it? [19:36] What yofel said [19:36] Guest19724: sudo cp /var/backups/dpkg.status.0 /var/lib/dpkg/ [19:36] and try purging that package [19:36] if it doesn't work then try dpkg --purge --force-all xmind [19:36] dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 18600 package 'xmind': newline in field name '.' [19:37] thats what it said when i try to remove python^ [19:38] Guest19724: why remove python? [19:38] sudo apt-get purge xmind does thhis. [19:38] i get a long list of dependcies and it doesn't remove it. :( [19:38] try what Quintasan said [19:39] yofel> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2012-September/263773.html [19:39] Guest19724: NO, damn, no apt, don't use apt [19:39] sudo dpkg --purge --force-all xmind [19:40] i tried that command quin and get the same error posted before for python [19:40] Guest19724: sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status [19:40] try again [19:41] ok done [19:42] ok i get this after running that command quin [19:42] the blank line value of field 'Description' for xmind error message [19:43] dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 18600 package 'xmind': blank line in value of field 'Description' [19:45] hurrrrrrrrrr [19:45] hm [19:45] Guest19724: how does the field look like right now? [19:45] it should be something like: [19:45] Description: foo [19:45] [space] foo [19:45] [space] . [19:45] [space] bar [19:46] after that either a new Field without a space or an empty line followed by the next Package: [19:47] just look at the other description fields in the file [19:48] can you toss me commands on how to close nano? [19:48] still relearning how to navigate [19:49] Ctrl+x, y/n [19:49] ok i am at the line [19:51] that line has task management, and GTD. Xmind is compatible with Freemind/Mindmanager. on the next line 16001 is just blank followed by a paragraph about editions on the next line 16002 [19:52] just blank? i.e. an empty line? [19:52] yep [19:52] go to that line and insert . [19:53] i.e. a space, and . [19:53] so it looks like I said above [19:53] ok so hitspace bar and inasert a period. [19:53] right [19:54] the space was probably missing last time you tried [19:54] ok did it lets see if that fixed it. [19:54] (guessing from the error message) [19:54] what should i do first just to make sure i dont break it again [19:55] update try to remove python etc etc [19:55] uh, start with dpkg --configure -a to see whether it works at all [19:56] i made it to package configuration. [19:56] does that mean it worked? [19:56] well, I assume so. Now you can try to fix python [19:57] awesome, thank you yofel. [19:57] thank me after apt stops complaining ^^ [20:00] well as a shocker it failed to parse the gnome desktop. :P [20:02] omg it finally worked. nice work yofel its uninstalling python now. [20:07] I made it to [20:07] dpkg --install --force-all python_2.7.1-0ubuntu5_all.deb [20:07] and now it says error parsing file for line 19471 package 'xmind'. [20:07] another space and dot i guess... [20:10] you still there yofel? on line 19471 it reads Package: libtasn1-3-dev there is a blank line on 19470 and finally 19472 has Status: install ok installed. [20:11] that's fine [20:11] how do i fix this error? [20:11] try searching for xmind in the file [20:11] maybe it got the wrong line [20:13] whats the command for search? [20:13] using nano [20:14] hm, going from the legend try ctrl+2 [20:14] er [20:14] ctrl+w [20:16] firstone is the http link [20:17] so basically look for anything that has xmind wit ha slight alteration? [20:20] only things i found were in certain parts it had XMind and others it had just xmind. [20:20] could this be a problem? [20:21] I can't really say without the whole file... and I'm a bit lost with just that error now [20:21] yeah and were so close t ofixing python potentially... ah it kills me [20:22] is "error parsing file for line 19471 package 'xmind'." really all it says? [20:25] it has Package: libtasn1-3-dev [20:25] I mean as error message [20:26] I kind of remember fixing something like that months ago, and back then dpkg printed the wrong error line [20:28] it reads> dpkg error: parsing file 'var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 19471 package 'xmind': blank line in value of field 'Description' [20:29] geh, now that file's broken too [20:29] Guest19724: try as a quick fix: sudo dpkg --clear-avail [20:29] theres a blank line on 19472. :P [20:30] ok i ran that command. [20:30] what now? [20:30] try python again [20:32] ok i got this [20:33] error processing python_2.7.1-0ubuntu5_all.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: python 2.7.1-0ubuntu5_all.deb [20:34] the .deb doesn't exist [20:34] maybe start with apt-get install -f [20:34] ok [20:34] now that dpkg itself works again [20:36] ok i did that [20:38] i got the same message after running the -f command [20:38] huh [20:38] i don't know why [20:38] try sudo apt-get check, then try again [20:39] okyeah i did that then i did -f command and still get the error [20:40] weird. Ok, lets start fresh: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update [20:40] *then* try again [20:42] wow just cant win here [20:42] again? [20:44] i did these in this order> sudo apt-get clean, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get check, then tried python [20:44] looks reasonable. same error? [20:45] yep [20:45] just ran it again just ot make sure :( [20:45] does a file named python 2.7.1-0ubuntu5_all.deb exist in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ? [20:46] for ls i get lock and partial [20:47] nothing is in partial folder. [20:47] for ls [20:47] you do have a network connection? [20:48] i can check. what were the commands again? [20:48] just ping google.com and you'll know [20:49] yes I do [20:49] pinged successfully [20:49] now how do i make it stop pinging? [20:49] *sigh*, why does it try to install something that it didn't download... [20:49] ctrl+c [20:51] yeah linux hates me. last time for karmic update it took me three days to get that working. :( [20:52] well, *this* shouldn't happen really. Though xmind is broken packaging wise, really [20:53] what release were you upgrading to again? [20:53] there's no recent release that has python 2.7.1, it's either 2.7.3 or 2.7.4 [20:53] I was running the server version of lucid and upgraded to precision version 12.04.02 [20:54] when i got to the login screen i found the gui wasn't working and have been working on it since yesterday. [20:56] I upgraded it using the manager and it had it listed in there. [20:56] kind of wish i had used the terminal now since maybe it might of not broke... [20:57] nah, I would blame xmind, but that's neither your nor our fault really, just dpkg being too sensitive [20:57] ok [20:57] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-defaults/ [20:57] ^ has the .deb it complained was missing [20:58] what you can try now is to download what you need by hand using 'wget URL' into /var/cache/apt/archives [20:58] then you can dpkg --install --force-depends [20:58] try apt-get install -f [20:58] and repeat that until it stops complaining about missing archive files [20:58] I have to run for today, bye [20:59] ok so when i do wget url what do itype to specify where it will stick it? [21:00] or will it stick it where it needs to go automatically? [21:00] uh, forgot how to do that. Just cd into /var/cache/apt/archives [21:00] that'll be easiest [21:00] it'll always download it into the current directory [21:02] wow really a 404 error. [21:03] nvm i got it [21:16] Can someone post the commands to wget archives because I don't think it got the archive instead it made a index.html file. [21:28] ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] Window Managers instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar) [23:37] ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] Window Managers instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar) [23:44] Hey Riddell valorie [23:44] greets [23:45] valorie: how's the doc [23:45] I did some editing yesterday [23:46] I still think the pagename for KubuntuBasics should be Basics [23:46] anyway [23:46] Cool I got on after you were talking with Riddell but I fixed what he said [23:46] I think we are getting them whipped into shape [23:47] what are you thinking about next? [23:47] Editing wise? [23:48] If you think it would be better a different name go for it [23:48] ah, I see a note to me [23:48] will get on that asap [23:48] * valorie is reading the trello [23:48] On trello? [23:49] Oh [23:49] excellent work setting that up [23:49] thank you [23:49] NP :) [23:49] yikes, my power is blinking [23:49] thunderstorm [23:49] Same on my phone [23:50] what do you think about adding About to the main RR page? [23:50] it's so short, and About is short as well [23:50] That's could work [23:50] That [23:51] That's cool [23:51] just a thought while I was browsing through, to get an overview [23:52] I'll start using the trello now so we don't have to rely on reading backlog here [23:52] between us [23:52] That would be cool [23:52] Overview? [23:53] an overall look at our docs [23:53] sorry, dinner time here [23:53] What do you think of [23:54] The about and welcome pages [23:55] I'll have to look later, once I get back from my dad's [23:55] sorry [23:55] Oh OK I'll be on later [23:55] Well till my phone dies