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| cjwatson | ogra_: FYI, proposed-migration only cares about regressions in installability. Since I forced ubuntu-touch-meta to be uninstallable (by proposed-migration's definition) once, it won't require further forcing unless it becomes installable again at some point in the meantime. | 10:55 |
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| ogra_ | ah, perfect, thanks ! | 10:56 |
| cjwatson | (And indeed AFAICS it didn't require forcing at the weekend.) | 10:56 |
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| ogra_ | sigh, seems cadejo is dead again | 12:52 |
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| cjwatson | I've added stgraber to ~ubuntu-archive, mainly on the basis that everyone already thinks he is and I'm quite confident he knows his way around. | 16:23 |
| Laney | nice | 16:24 |
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| blitzkrieg3 | hi, I've verified bug 887446, would someone please move it over to -updates? | 19:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 887446 in mtools (Ubuntu Precise) "mlabel: renaming USB stick appends "nA" to name" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887446 | 19:30 |
| stgraber | blitzkrieg3: any reason to rush it to -updates? packages are typically moved 7 days after they get into -proposed (assuming the fix is confirmed and no regression found) | 19:32 |
| stgraber | so in the case of this package, it'd likely be released to -updates on Wednesday | 19:32 |
| blitzkrieg3 | stgraber: oh I didn't know it was automatic... | 19:33 |
| blitzkrieg3 | stgraber: thanks for the clarification, Wed is fine | 19:33 |
| stgraber | it's not automatic, but there's still a default 7 days waiting period | 19:33 |
| stgraber | so SRU members don't usually look at copying things that are less than 7 days old | 19:33 |
| blitzkrieg3 | okay, that works for me | 19:33 |
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| phillw | hi good people, would the fix for bug 880493 be sitting in the 7 day queue, or does it need a nudge? (Obviously not for me, I'm asking on behalf of a tester). | 22:41 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 880493 in synaptic (Ubuntu Raring) "Synaptic crashes in vfprintf() with Norwegian locale" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/880493 | 22:41 |
| cjwatson | No, it's waiting for manual review by ~ubuntu-sru before entering -proposed | 22:47 |
| cjwatson | The 7-day queue is during the verification step after it's in -proposed | 22:48 |
| phillw | cjwatson: so, I should ask the OP to wait 7 days and then check to see if it has arrived in proposed? (my first translations bug, as you can tell!). | 22:50 |
| stgraber | phillw: there's no fixed amount of time before something gets into -proposed, it'll get in there when someone has the time to review it | 22:51 |
| cjwatson | 7 days is irrelevamt | 22:51 |
| cjwatson | s/m/n/ | 22:51 |
| phillw | ah, so it could take some time for a manual review. Sorry, I mis-read what you wrote. | 22:51 |
| stgraber | once it's in there, a comment will be posted to the bug report asking you to test the fix, and it's 7 days after THAT, that it'll be copied to -updates | 22:51 |
| cjwatson | ... if it's verified | 22:52 |
| stgraber | right | 22:52 |
| phillw | stgraber: cjwatson do you have any sort of idea of a bug with that many dupes and heat may get reviewed (obviously after vUDS!) ? | 22:53 |
| cjwatson | No idea sorry | 22:53 |
| stgraber | sorry, can't really parse that sentence, assuming the missing word is "when", then no | 22:54 |
| cjwatson | The SRU queue is rarely processed in any kind of order relating to dupes or heat | 22:54 |
| phillw | okies, thanks. at least I can tell the OP to subscribe to 'master' bug, as he quoted me one of the dupes. | 22:54 |
| cjwatson | Not least because we have no way to see it in that order | 22:54 |
| phillw | I can imagine... and translation bugs must a royal pain to check out! | 22:55 |
| cjwatson | Not usually | 22:56 |
| cjwatson | But I'm not going to look now since bed | 22:56 |
| infinity | Gah. | 23:26 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Since when do we allow people to upload directly to *-updates? :/ | 23:26 |
| infinity | wgrant: ^ | 23:26 |
| * infinity is kicking himself for not noticing the wrong target in the unity-tweak-tool upload. | 23:27 | |
| wgrant | infinity: Always AFAIK | 23:27 |
| infinity | wgrant: Huh. A bit odd, given that we don't let people upload to devel-release. :P | 23:27 |
| infinity | (I could have sworn direct uploads to -updates used to get rejected) | 23:27 |
| wgrant | Back in the old days you could upload to just release, or you could upload to all the pockets except release, depending on series status. | 23:27 |
| infinity | Yeah, but when we brought in -proposed, -updates should have been locked off. | 23:28 |
| wgrant | Certainly | 23:28 |
| infinity | If it hasn't been, we've just been remarkably good about people not uploading to the wrong target most of the time. | 23:28 |
| wgrant | But "should" is very very broad :) | 23:28 |
| infinity | I'm suspicious that this might be a regression since the mapping magic landed. | 23:29 |
| infinity | But maybe not. Maybe people really have been that well-behaved. | 23:29 |
| infinity | Anyhow, now I get to decide if I copy/delete that from updates to proposed, or just handwave and not care. | 23:30 |
| wgrant | It's not a regression. | 23:30 |
| infinity | Fair enough. People are better behaved than I give them credit for. | 23:30 |
| wgrant | infinity: Yeah, not a regression. There've been about 100 -updates uploads since 2009, spread over all the years since then. | 23:39 |
| infinity | wgrant: Kay. Guess I just wasn't the one who accepted any of them. Or I didn't notice until today. :P | 23:39 |
| infinity | wgrant: I'm guessing it would be trivial to rewrite s/updates/proposed/ the same as release is done (with the same ACL check for bypassing)? | 23:40 |
| wgrant | infinity: Probably. | 23:40 |
| wgrant | Though in this case I'd just reject... | 23:41 |
| infinity | I see no reason to hard reject, when a rewrite would DTRT. But today's behaviour is clearly wrong one way or the other, since it relies on a human to be able to read. ;) | 23:41 |
| wgrant | There's no backward compat issue. | 23:41 |
| infinity | Rejecting works too, not picky. | 23:41 |
| wgrant | We should look for reasons *to* not do what people say, not reason not to not do it :) | 23:41 |
| infinity | Rejecting still needs the ACL check, of course. | 23:42 |
| infinity | (The argument for the rewrite is that it's a DWIM sort of thing, I don't really care about teaching uploaders about what magic they need in their changelog) | 23:43 |
| infinity | If I cared about said magic, I'd insist they always write "series" unqualified, and have the upload email tell them so. :P | 23:43 |
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