[07:03] <knightwise> morning everyone
[07:16] <dwatkins> allo allo
[07:17] <knightwise> Hey dwatkins !
[07:17]  * dwatkins pours coffee into his brain
[07:17] <dwatkins> First day back after a week off is always difficult.
[07:17] <dwatkins> I trust all is well elsewhere.
[07:31] <popey> Morning
[07:32] <dwatkins> wotcher
[07:39] <knightwise> I failed to record the last dr who episode
[07:39] <knightwise> as a star trek fan I'm starting to wonder if that wasn't a good thing
[07:41] <dwatkins> knightwise: it'll be repeated soon enough
[07:41] <SuperMat1> it's on iplayer
[07:41] <SuperMat1> and all the torrent sites
[07:42] <dwatkins> I havn't used a video recorder in years thanks to all this iplayer related stuff :)
[07:42] <popey> tsk tsk
[07:43] <popey> torrents are bad mm'kay
[07:48] <SuperMatt> unless of course you're downloading and sharing ubuntu isos?
[08:07] <MooDoo_> moening all
[08:09] <knightwise> hey MooDoo !
[08:17] <mungbean> installed carmageddon on android tablet. ws expecting something a bit better from the reviews
[08:19] <MooDoo> howdy knightwise how are you?
[08:40] <JamesTait> Good morning, and happy frog jumping day, eveyone! :-D
[08:41] <SuperMatt> ok, I need the source for that one
[08:44] <directhex> when's weasel stomping day?
[08:44] <SuperMatt> isn't every day weasel stomping day?
[08:45] <directhex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k76IGLi6jWI
[08:45] <Laney> stoat stomping, weasel wanging, vole vaulting
[08:46] <JamesTait> SuperMatt, http://news.yahoo.com/may-13-frog-jumping-day-tulip-day-national-171100389.html is one place I saw it.
[09:18] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[09:18] <MooDoo> morning
[09:19] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[09:19] <SuperMatt> JamesTait: I would have prefered national apple pie day
[09:19] <JamesTait> SuperMatt, as would many people, I suspect - hence me choosing something else. ;)
[09:19] <brobostigon> why cant we have national beer day,?
[09:19] <SuperMatt> curse you JamesTait!
[09:20] <JamesTait> brobostigon, isn't every day national beer day?
[09:21] <brobostigon> JamesTait: i suspect that can be done, :)
[09:51]  * chalcedony smiles
[10:00] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:01] <MooDoo> mornig davmor2
[10:02] <davmor2> MooDoo: how be ya me owld mucka
[10:06] <MooDoo> davmor2: I'm fine thanks
[10:30] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:47] <davmor2> bigcalm: how do chap
[10:48] <bigcalm> davmor2: the usual, over worked. Though thankfully not under paid. 1st raise for several years
[10:48] <bigcalm> davmor2: how's you?
[10:50] <davmor2> bigcalm: recovering from the holiday, who knew cold and damp wasn't good for arthritis :D  How ever flat is warm and dry :)  It was still nice to get away and recharge the batteries :)
[10:52] <bigcalm> Indeed. Hayley and I are looking forward to our long Edinburgh weekend at the beginning of June
[10:53] <bigcalm> Though, at this time, I'm not sure what we'll do for the 4 days
[10:53] <bigcalm> Maybe we'll go and harass some people in Glasgow, like mgdm
[10:54] <mgdm> bigcalm: o hai :)
[10:54] <mgdm> what weekend are you 'here'?
[10:55] <bigcalm> mgdm: Saturday 1st to Tuesday 4th June
[10:56] <mgdm> cool
[10:59] <davmor2> bigcalm: fun :)  Ofcourse 2800 emails to go through on your first day back isn't the best fun in the universe :(
[10:59] <Laney> ctrl-a, delete
[11:02] <bigcalm> :D
[11:14] <brobostigon> oh yes, opensimulator working, :)
[11:15] <knightwise> hey everyone
[11:16] <brobostigon> afternoonings knightwise
[11:16]  * brobostigon grins widely, :D
[11:24] <directhex> brobostigon, the Second Life server?
[11:24] <brobostigon> directhex: yes.
[11:54] <brobostigon> directhex: althought why on earth it is in mono, i have no idea.
[11:55]  * redtape|renegade ' gives AlanBell ,  a loco-note to depatch DVD's this fortnight. |OTopix|
[11:57] <popey> brobostigon: why not?
[11:57] <brobostigon> popey: i wa just expecting something like c++ really, expectations.
[11:57] <directhex> brobostigon, well, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn8Sd013sM8 might be indicative. On the left is the old Second Life scripting system, LSL. on the right is the same script compiled using mono, which is now standard in second life.
[11:58] <brobostigon> directhex: interesting,
[11:59] <brobostigon> bbl, meds to pickup from chemist, hope i stay dry.
[11:59] <directhex> using something like Mono for this type of game engine is reasonably logical. The Sims 3 is a good example of it
[11:59] <directhex> especially if you compare performance of TS3 and TS2
[11:59] <brobostigon> i shall have to do more tests.
[11:59] <brobostigon> ok, bbl.
[12:00] <redtape|renegade> brobostigon: I'd take that wind-proof jacket, then: just saying.
[12:24]  * redtape|renegade scores a blinder off Aucktion :: http://r.ebay.com/9eR5Jt :: (came up in a 'Saved search' @ Dr Who time, yesterday)
[12:26] <redtape|renegade> T | wonder if it  gets delivered before fourteen - o -four (?)
[12:26] <redtape|renegade> **OT | ...
[12:52] <redtape|renegade> !packages
[13:24] <bashrc> For anyone who is a Bitmessage fan the Unity integration is now mostly done
[13:25] <bashrc> All I need do now is make a PPA
[14:32] <bashrc> Have created my very first PPA
[14:34] <redtape|renegade> bashrc: Well done .. what's the launchpad entry ?
[14:42] <ali1234> bashrc: can i try it?
[14:45] <bashrc> ppa:fuzzgun/pybitmessage
[14:46] <bashrc> only currently for raring
[14:50] <bashrc> A relatively minor inconsistency: on the application indicator there is "quit" but within the application file menu there is "exit"
[14:58]  * brobostigon shakes his fist at FB ads. :(
[15:01] <redtape|renegade> ali123: I must have pinged out .. what was the launchpad PPA address again ?
[15:01] <redtape|renegade> bashrc:          ^^ ?
[15:01] <bashrc> ppa:fuzzgun/pybitmessage
[15:03] <redtape|renegade> bashrc: I have downloaded it .. I will later transfer to my other screen and try it out. thank-you.
[15:03] <bashrc> no problemo
[15:06] <SuperMatt> I wonder if the summit.ubuntu.com site can be updated so I can quickly download a calendar entry for certain events
[15:53] <redtape|renegade> SuperMatt: I believe the calendar function also exists in the terminal by just typing :: $ calendar .. | wonder, if Mellon University would open that up ? ::
[16:04] <bashrc> I wonder where that term "red tape" came from originally
[16:04] <redtape|renegade> HOPE 5
[16:04] <mgdm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_tape
[16:05]  * redtape|renegade activates his unstimulii senses.
[16:05] <MartijnVdS> o/
[16:06] <bashrc> goes back to Henry VIII and his marriage troubles
[16:07] <brobostigon> hail, eeeek
[16:08] <redtape|renegade> bashrc, It's very odd that you are looking at the Tudors .. a very odd reign.
[16:13] <dogmatic69> how can I uninstall / remove elasticsearch. I installed with https://gist.github.com/wingdspur/2026107
[16:17] <redtape|renegade> bashrc, Dunno :: whenever I loose track I just click here ---> http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/megan-fox :: get back to eurobooks. -it's just a bookmark afterall.
[16:20] <mgdm> dogmatic69: which bit of that script did you use? The .deb or the second bit?
[16:20] <dogmatic69> mgdm: the deb iirc
[16:20] <dogmatic69> was a while back
[16:21] <mgdm> well, just remove the .deb - sudo apt-get remove elasticsearch
[16:21] <mgdm> (I think it's remove, at least)
[16:21] <dogmatic69> normally I use apt-get remove, ye.
[16:21] <dogmatic69> maybe I did not use the deb then...
[16:21] <mgdm> in that case you probably want to just remove /usr/local/share/elasticsearch
[16:21] <mgdm> (which, by the way, is a really strange place to put it)
[16:22] <dogmatic69> ok, its fine to just rm -r it?
[16:22] <dogmatic69> it being that folder.
[16:22] <mgdm> make sure it's stopped first, but yeah (subject to the usual disclaimer; if you break it you get to keep all the bits ;-)
[16:22] <dogmatic69> :(
[16:23] <dogmatic69> its only my dev box for doing work / making a living on...
[16:23] <mgdm> well, tar it up and keep it somewhere if you're concerned
[16:23] <mgdm> or rename it and see if anything breaks
[16:23] <dogmatic69> lol, no space for that :D
[16:23] <dogmatic69> hence trying to clean up
[16:24] <dogmatic69> I will just live on the edge a bit, most things are only a git clone (php dev etc)
[16:25] <mgdm> yeah
[16:25] <mgdm> I have a Vagrant box that I do all my dev stuff on
[16:25] <dogmatic69> its an old(ish) HP blade
[16:25] <mgdm> or rather, I have about 4 similar ones, and just turn them off and on as required
[16:39] <redtape|chrome> OT | You mentioned the vagrant box .. Has anyone tried these (top-right) .. >  :http://www.villagetronic.com/e_products.html ::
[16:39] <redtape|chrome> OT |   ^^     ?
[16:40] <mgdm> that's not even mildly related to Vagrant :-)
[16:41] <redtape|chrome> mgdm, Oh sorry I'll lmgtfy it.
[16:41] <mgdm> http://www.vagrantup.com/ is what I'm talking about
[16:41] <dogmatic69> redtape|chrome: a link to VMware would have been closer
[16:42] <redtape|chrome> dogmatic69: Yep .. I'm looking at http://docs-v1.vagrantup.com/v1/docs/getting-started/ports.html :: but free to let me know if my product will work with 13.04 :/
[16:48] <redtape|chrome> diplo: How's life in forty shades of green counrty ?
[17:22] <cocoa117> how to use dd to write zero to sector 2-2048?
[17:23] <cocoa117> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 seek=2-2048
[17:23] <cocoa117> does this work?
[17:25] <shauno> I think it'd just going to be seek=2 and count=2046.  seek tells you where to start, count tells you how far to keep going
[17:25] <cocoa117> shauno, ha, got it
[17:37] <dogmatic69> is there any way to kill a ssh tunnel
[17:39] <dogmatic69> ah, its just a process so kill worked.
[18:49] <knightwise> hey everyone
[18:52] <bashrc`> hi
[19:24] <Azelphur> Anyone got any good suggestions for cheap curtains? I got 8 Windows all with no curtains, so stuff it's looking rather expensive :(
[19:24] <mgdm> You've got Windows 8 with no curtains...?
[19:24]  * mgdm flees
[19:25] <popey> Azelphur: for cheap curtains see "blinds"
[19:26] <directhex> blinds aren't really cheap either
[19:26] <Azelphur> popey: haha, yea been looking for that too, it's a bit difficult because of the size required though, need ~2m drop, 1m wide
[19:26] <directhex> the cheapest curtains are the pre-sized ones that come shrink-wrapper. if find some that fit your windows. anything else means custom curtains means ££££££££££££££££££££££££££
[19:26] <popey> +1
[19:26] <Myrtti> Azelphur: "ikea"
[19:26] <popey> depends on the blinds
[19:27] <directhex> yes, ikea is worth considering. dirt cheap compared to non-ikea
[19:27] <Myrtti> ikea and mum's sewing machine
[19:27] <directhex> it may still be cheaper to buy premade curtains & have them adjusted at a dry cleaners than to have custom curtains done
[19:27] <directhex> e.g. for the boy's bedroom we had pre-made tab top curtains converted to track top
[19:28] <Azelphur> didn't think of ikea, will check them
[19:28] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/4700741202/in/set-72157604075155031
[19:28] <Myrtti> ^ ikea
[19:28] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/4700742416/
[19:28] <Azelphur> sounds like a plan
[19:29] <popey> directhex: https://plus.google.com/u/0/102823828455295039123/posts/1gHAhqP2icf
[19:30] <shauno> mum's sewing machine ftw.  curtains aren't difficult.  curtain tape is <50p/metre, and the rest magically falls into place
[19:30] <directhex> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/522990_10150789180530709_115359205_n.jpg
[19:30] <popey> awwww
[19:31] <Myrtti> most ikea curtains have so much excess that if you have a sewing machine available the excess can be used as curtain tie-backs
[19:31] <Myrtti> especially with the ridiculously low ceiling height of UK apartments
[19:32] <directhex> popey, confused, why can't i reply to that post?
[19:32] <directhex> oh. gotta join "ubuntu community". grr
[19:32] <directhex> noise
[19:32] <popey> its a community
[19:32] <popey> yeah
[19:43] <ali1234> software centre says no skype and no steam on raring?
[19:54] <directhex> just get steam from steampowered.com
[19:54] <directhex> and skype from skype.com is fine on raring too
[20:01] <mungbean> how do i disable the bongos at the lightdm screen?
[20:05] <popey> directhex: how can I find out why (for example) on debian sid, libc6:i386 trails behind libc6:amd64? there should be build logs or something?
[20:06] <diplo_> evening all
[20:07] <directhex> popey, there are build logs for debian, at buildd.debian.org
[20:07] <directhex> https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=eglibc
[20:08] <directhex> so, there won't be a build log for architectures where the package was compiled by the maintainer and uploaded. debian requires binary uploads, not source-only uploads (sigh)
[20:08] <directhex> there's a delay from a package being in "installed" state and being in your local mirror, too
[20:09] <Azelphur> Can anyone with a VPN and an android phone do me a favour and tell me if when wifi tethering is enabled, does the phone route all data through your VPN?
[20:10] <Azelphur> or if anyone has a VPN I can test with that'd be handy
[20:16] <popey> thanks directhex
[20:29] <mungbean> grim peogramme about chavs
[20:29] <diplo> yeah i gave that a miss mungbean
[20:29] <diplo> Skint ?
[20:29] <mungbean> yeah hprrid
[20:31] <mungbean> then camelot advertise scratchcards on the ad break
[20:32] <diplo> heh
[20:33] <popey> mungbean: i watched that hoarders app on ipad in bed last night.. nothing revolutionary, did find the presenter somewhat irritating
[20:36] <mungbean> yeah was a bit meh
[20:37] <mungbean> prefer the other one
[20:37] <popey> other what?
[20:42] <mungbean> hoarder mext door
[20:42] <mungbean> bbc one is lame
[20:43] <mungbean> u said hoarders APP lol
[20:45] <mungbean> why does the sprite ad censor the dogs willy?
[20:46] <shauno> the dog requested thus.
[21:01] <popey> hah so i did
[21:05] <popey> hmm.
[21:06] <popey> i want more programmes like "The Secret Life Of the Motorway"
[21:09] <Laney> there's something about feynman on the iplayer atm
[21:09] <Laney> started watching it earlier
[21:09] <mungbean> and the smiths yesterday
[21:09] <Laney> he's a good lad
[21:10] <Myrtti> yeah, it's a great show
[21:10] <Myrtti> too bad it's nothing as good as his books
[21:10] <mungbean> i read his book , was a bit bored
[21:11] <mungbean> sometime in the 90s, quantum physics and rainbows in oily puddles
[21:12] <mungbean> the presenter from the less good hoarders prog is from escape to the country that my missis watches everyday
[21:26] <bigcalm> Oh dear :(
[21:31] <Myrtti> hm?
[21:34] <bigcalm> Myrtti: oh sorry. My reaction was to the wallops message of the ongoing ddos
[21:34] <Myrtti> yeah, well, atleast the good thing is that the bigger half has services
[21:35] <bigcalm> Some people have very tiny willies, me thinks
[21:36] <zleap> got it