[10:12] <Laney> hey guys, I'd like to draw your attention to bug #1178373
[10:12] <Laney> it's to get suspend/reboot/shutdown/hibernate working properly in xubuntu/saucy
[10:13] <Laney> from the session menu, that is
[17:11]  * pleia2 has returned
[17:16] <elfy> welcome back pleia2 
[17:16] <pleia2> thanks :)
[17:17] <elfy> you well and all that I trust :)
[17:17] <pleia2> very well, thank you
[17:17] <elfy> excellent
[17:28] <ochosi> wb pleia2 !
[17:44] <pleia2> ochosi: thanks!
[17:55] <pnarciso> hello
[17:56] <elfy> hi pnarciso 
[17:56] <pnarciso> how thinks going?
[17:56] <elfy> pretty good here thanks - nice to see you 
[17:57] <pnarciso> :)
[17:57] <pnarciso> I heard there's a meeting tomorrow
[17:57] <elfy> did you - I've not seen that 
[17:58] <elfy> xubuntu one?
[17:58] <pnarciso> UDS
[17:59] <pnarciso> and there's xubuntu
[17:59] <elfy> oic - yea - I think there are some xubuntu specific ones - not sure what time though 
[18:01] <pnarciso> everything is open, xfce 4.12 release is uncertain
[18:01] <pnarciso> I've read that ubuntu is ditching firefox to chromium
[18:02] <elfy> again - heard that before
[18:02] <pnarciso> personally I think is a better choice than firefox
[18:03] <elfy> not keen on chromium personally 
[18:04] <pnarciso> I don't use it either, I'm running chrome 28 dev, and it's so much faster than firefox that it isn't funny :)
[18:05] <pnarciso> I uses more memory though
[18:05] <elfy> I find it more than adequate for my use - I'd doubt I'd see enough to make me use it 
[18:07] <pnarciso> there's the advantage of updated flash
[18:07] <elfy> maybe so - but I'd still not use it :)
[18:07] <pnarciso> :)
[18:08] <elfy> did you see I added to that forum thread 
[18:09] <pnarciso> yes
[18:09] <elfy> k 
[18:10] <elfy> I should add it to the bug I suppose lol
[18:10] <pnarciso> it' s a bug
[18:10] <elfy> yea
[18:17] <pnarciso> xfce latest stable build is not yet uploaded, it could fix the problem
[18:17] <elfy> yea - read that in the bug 
[18:57] <knome> pleia2, woooo! congrats again and welcome back!
[18:58] <pleia2> thanks :)
[18:58] <knome> pleia2, got some time to get back to the loop later today?
[18:59] <pleia2> I will try, but my "urgent" backlog is about 14 miles long :)
[18:59] <knome> yeah... ping me when/of you have time
[18:59] <pleia2> will do, working throught $paid_job stuff now
[18:59] <knome> yup, strength
[20:29] <knome> i'm around if people want to test out things.
[20:30] <elfy> hi knome 
[20:31] <elfy> I spoke to balloons re testcase stuff - it's all being done via release teams apparently
[20:31] <knome> elfy, what testcase stuff?
[20:31] <elfy> you wanted me to talk to him about being able to edit things at iso.qa
[20:31] <knome> oh... no, you didn't need to :)
[20:32] <knome> but it doesn't hurt that you did!
[20:32] <elfy> which is not what you said the other day :D
[20:32] <knome> humm
[20:32] <knome> oh well... :)
[20:32] <elfy> yep :)
[20:33] <elfy> what's going to be happening over the next 3 days with meetings? does anyone know yet
[20:33] <knome> we should have a meeting each day at 20UTC
[20:33] <elfy> k - I can manage all of those then :)
[20:33] <knome> we're doing it outside vUDS hours so they should be doable if you can simply stay up long enough...
[20:34] <elfy> I can manage 9pm :)
[20:34] <Unit193> knome: I should be able to test too.
[20:34] <knome> great
[20:34] <knome> what are we testing? skype?
[20:34] <knome> i mean... i can simply enable G+ for my account for those three days, then re-disable
[20:34] <elfy> I'll not be doing any of that - so if it's all skype and video - you'll have to give me logs
[20:35] <Unit193> The theory was to use 3 people and see if it actually works, I saw a couple things saying not, but might actually.
[20:35] <Unit193> elfy: Would you be alright installing something, rather than a signup?
[20:35] <knome> yeah, i also want to make it accessible...
[20:35] <elfy> I've no camera nor any sort of mike Unit193 
[20:35] <knome> elfy, are both G+ and skype completely out of question?
[20:35] <Unit193> elfy: I see.
[20:35] <knome> i suppose you can chime in without either
[20:36] <Unit193> You can listen in with Skype.
[20:36] <elfy> that helps 
[20:36] <knome> i suppose you can even see the cams with skype
[20:37] <elfy> Unit193: point me where to go and I can install it 
[20:38] <knome> elfy, it should be in the partner repositories
[20:38] <elfy> ok
[20:38] <knome> elfy, before installing please note that you will also need to register an account
[20:38] <Unit193> Enable partner and skype-bin, if that's what we're using.
[20:38] <knome> we should at least test that, whatever we end up using.
[20:38] <elfy> knome: k - I expected that
[20:39] <Unit193> knome: Yes, because a couple things indicated premium was needed for more than 2 video users.
[20:39] <knome> Unit193, yes... but things that shouldn't have worked have worked for me on linux before
[20:41] <knome> day pass for premium is 4.01€
[20:41] <Unit193> Or, we could use mumble, sip, or G+.
[20:41] <knome> 8,04€ for a month.
[20:42] <Unit193> elfy: You going to be the third person in a test?
[20:42] <elfy> trying to sort an account now
[20:42] <knome> Unit193, i thought we wanted to test videoconferencing, so we would need another one with a webcam
[20:44] <Noskcaj> elfy, both G+ and skype let you text chat at the same time
[20:45] <elfy> stupid account page
[20:45] <Noskcaj> also, headphones and mics can be bought for $1 on ebay
[20:45] <elfy> Noskcaj: nice 
[20:45] <elfy> easy to do things if you can 
[20:45] <Noskcaj> what was the thing about testcases? i'm an admin on the tracker
[20:46] <Noskcaj> at least the part the QA team does
[20:47] <elfy> well - fill in the account form and it just refreshes without saying a thing
[20:47] <Unit193> Little red mark at the top?
[20:48] <Noskcaj> i'm online for sype if you want me to do something
[20:48] <elfy> Unit193: nothing like that at all - in fact the webpage looks like something from netscape days ;)
[20:49] <Unit193> Hrm, I'll actually have to put on pants and get the computer with a webcam, won't I?
[20:54] <knome> pants?
[20:54] <knome> aren't obligatory if you are not zooming there
[20:54] <elfy> nope can't get an account sorted 
[20:55] <knome> meh
[20:56] <Unit193> elfy: Mind if I make it and send you pass? :P
[20:57] <elfy> that's fine
[20:57] <elfy> hang on 
[20:57] <elfy> somethign dodgy with f/f 
[20:58] <knome> ochosi will also join us shortly
[20:59]  * knome eats a cookie
[20:59] <knome> Noskcaj, sorry, i missed your msg earlier. join us shortly in a videoconference test.
[21:00] <elfy> Unit193: done
[21:00] <Unit193> elfy: I'm adding hobgoblin or elfy?
[21:00] <elfy> I done it now :)
[21:00] <Noskcaj> i'm jackson.doak if anyone needs to add me
[21:01] <knome> Noskcaj, added
[21:02] <knome> Unit193, are you set?
[21:03] <elfy> well I got an account and I got skype started 
[21:03] <knome> awesome
[21:03] <Unit193> Need a minute.
[21:03] <knome> account name?
[21:03] <knome> sure.
[21:03] <Unit193> elfy: Add Unit193! ;D
[21:03] <knome> i can start the conference call.
[21:04] <elfy> elfyesq knome 
[21:04] <elfy> Unit193: I did 
[21:05] <Unit193> I saw, added.
[21:06] <elfy> knome: you pasi there I assume
[21:06] <lderan> do you have enough to test with?
[21:06] <knome> <- knomepasi
[21:06] <knome> sure
[21:07] <lderan> ok
[21:07] <ochosi> so now we wait patiently for knome to initiate the conference call or what?
[21:07] <knome> i'll do that in a sec.
[21:08] <knome> ringing
[21:09] <knome> well apparently the video button is striked out
[21:12] <knome> haha
[21:12] <knome> success
[21:12] <lderan> woo
[21:12] <Unit193> Fail? :D
[21:12] <Noskcaj> :)
[21:12] <elfy> kinda :)
[21:13] <ochosi> well voice seemed okayish tbh
[21:13] <knome> 2/5 people without mics?
[21:13] <knome> yeah
[21:13] <ochosi> no video is kinda fail though
[21:13] <knome> yeah, that sucks
[21:13] <knome> i'll also get my headphones
[21:13] <elfy> if I can get the lappy working tomorrow then I'd have both
[21:13] <ochosi> (not sure how bandwith would be affected by video)
[21:13] <knome> the fridge+freezer is humming relatively loudly
[21:13] <knome> (not ubuntu fridge)
[21:14] <elfy> lol
[21:14] <elfy> I got a cat doing that ... 
[21:14] <ochosi> your mic is quite sensitive, knome :)
[21:14] <knome> is it?
[21:14] <knome> it was not me tapping!
[21:14] <ochosi> i could hear you type loud and clear
[21:14] <lderan> lol
[21:14] <knome> was my voice loud too then?
[21:14] <elfy> nope 
[21:15] <knome> it might be that i'm just hitting the keys hard...
[21:15] <knome> actually, i use to do that, so...
[21:15] <elfy> just louder than Simon's not so sensitive mike :)
[21:15] <ochosi> hmpfyeah, not sure why it is so insensitive now
[21:15] <ochosi> must be related to pulseaudio somehow
[21:15] <knome> well mine is next to the keyboard, so..
[21:16] <Noskcaj> i should get my mech keyboard for the conference ;)
[21:16] <elfy> I must have some weirdness in my f/fox profile with regard to skype - it never searches for it - the account page was just text 
[21:16] <knome> woo, get started...
[21:16] <ochosi> i just added some crazy muxing now via alsamixer, so we'll see whether that boosts your eardrums in our next test
[21:17] <ochosi> knome: have you added me on g+ yet or are you still creating your account?
[21:17] <Unit193> Was I too quiet?
[21:17] <elfy> did you say something then?
[21:17] <knome> ochosi, just added.
[21:18] <ochosi> knome: you're displayed as offline
[21:18] <knome> i've no idea why
[21:18] <ochosi> Unit193: were you the third person with a mic? i could hear something at some point
[21:18] <elfy> how do you add people in g+
[21:18] <ochosi> Unit193: not as loud and clear as pasi, but seems he's the only one with a decent mic/setup
[21:19] <ochosi> k, installing plugin for hangout now...
[21:19] <knome> me too...
[21:19] <knome> i've created a hangout
[21:20] <Unit193> ochosi: I'm in live. :P
[21:20] <Unit193> knome: Link?
[21:20] <knome> do i post the hangout window urk?
[21:20] <Noskcaj> link?
[21:21] <Unit193> I don't know, but some how there is a link to pass. :P
[21:21] <knome> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/8517325154e7868d00626c83c6561c7c1e8b1a89?authuser=0&hl=en ?
[21:22] <elfy> yep - can see you botyh
[21:23] <elfy> I've got no mike or cam 
[21:23] <lderan> i can sign in if need be easily enough
[21:24] <ochosi> lderan: sure, join in
[21:39] <knome> mmh, that was better
[21:39] <ochosi> yeah, good enough
[21:39] <knome> we really should keep the sessions under an hour
[21:39] <elfy> yep
[21:39] <ochosi> agreed
[21:39] <elfy> I think hangouts timeout at an hour don't they?
[21:39] <knome> no idea
[21:40] <ochosi> not sure whether this is really worth an extra spot on the agenda, but we could consider doing this more often for meetings
[21:40] <knome> that's somewhat sucky, if we are just wrapping things up
[21:40] <lderan> the video was stable for me tho i did get disconnected once
[21:40] <ochosi> lderan: yeah same here
[21:40] <elfy> http://gappstips.com/more/googleplus-tips/view/56/google-hangout-time-out-limit
[21:40] <Unit193> Not made for netbooks, the computer that had a webcam. :P
[21:41] <elfy> 90 minutes it seems 
[21:42] <knome> i suppose i could see if i could get a headset for tomorrow as well
[21:42] <knome> my head is too big for most, but...
[21:42] <Unit193> Hah.
[21:42] <ochosi> haha
[21:42] <knome> no, seriously
[21:43] <Unit193> Yeah, but it's funny.
[21:43] <ochosi> i can use headphones tomorrow
[21:43] <knome> they don't extend enough to be comfortably on *both* ears...
[21:44] <lderan> aye i have that issue too ;_;
[21:52] <Noskcaj> knome, use in-ear headphones and hang a mic off your head. that's what i was doing
[21:53] <knome> Noskcaj, that's not very comfortable...
[21:53] <Noskcaj> knome, you'd be suprised
[21:54] <ochosi> knome: break the microphone-part off the headset and use scotch-tape to fix it to your cheek
[21:55] <knome> awh
[21:55] <knome> you are telling me to waste money
[21:55] <knome> you capitalist pigs!
[21:55] <lderan> the horror
[21:57] <ochosi> knome: it's not a waste!
[21:57] <knome> meh
[21:58] <ochosi> btw, bluesabre also has g+ with video-capability as far as i can tell
[21:58] <knome> good
[21:58] <ochosi> so that should be fine with him too
[21:58] <ochosi> (at least his avatar has the video-icon in my buddy-list, so i assume it'll be fine)
[21:58] <knome> i've seen micahg and pleia2 do that before with cams too
[21:58] <knome> ...that didn't come out right, did it?
[21:58] <lderan> it did not
[21:58] <ochosi> harhar
[21:58] <pleia2> hahaha
[21:59] <knome> i meant uds sessions naturally.
[22:02] <ochosi> pleia2: will you join vUDS tomorrow too?
[22:04] <pleia2> I will try, need to read backlog and figure out when they are ;)
[22:05] <knome> pleia2, xubuntu sessions at 20UTC tue, wed, thu
[22:05] <knome> (whatever the UDS schedule says...)
[22:05] <pleia2> should be fine, I'll make sure to wear pants
[22:05] <ochosi> awwwh
[22:05]  * knome is sad!
[22:06] <pleia2> :P
[22:06] <knome> we should do a pantless meeting some day
[22:06] <knome> "let me just pick up a file on the floor behind me...oops." 
[22:08] <Noskcaj> knome, i'm rather scared of you after your last few comments
[22:09] <knome> Noskcaj, i'm just kidding
[22:09] <lderan> would you accept the english definition for pants, it would be less mentally scarring for all
[22:09] <Noskcaj> knome, good
[22:10] <knome> Noskcaj, pleia2 can assure i'm a harmless guy
[22:11] <ochosi> OR CAN SHE?
[22:11] <ochosi> >:D
[22:12] <knome> i'll leave that decision to her
[22:13] <pleia2> knome <3
[22:13] <knome> pleia2 <3
[22:42] <knome> bbl