[08:45] <hanner> hi, will i be able to update the current lubuntu 13.10 to the final state in october?
[08:46] <Unit193> Final "state"?  It may well be a bit different than if you installed at that time, but all your software will be at the released version and you'd be on 13.10.
[08:48] <hanner> different in what way? not the same kernel as if i install using the final 13.10 in october?
[08:49] <hanner> i guess 13.10 is some kind of alpha until then
[08:51] <Unit193> Same kernel, sure.  Well, who knows?  Default config and applications may well change.
[12:55] <DoctorD90> hello dear! i'd like to make a custom live cd of lubuntu, with some other features, and less stuff
[12:55] <DoctorD90> how can i do it? :)
[12:57] <SonikkuAmerica> DoctorD90: How about the mini.iso?
[12:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !mini
[13:03] <DoctorD90> SonikkuAmerica, thx. but i'd like make a LIVECD...because i change many pc, and i like to get MY personal custom enviorement :)
[13:04] <DoctorD90> so i need a not donwloadable contents :)
[13:04] <SonikkuAmerica> The mini.iso is a live image; don't get me wrong.
[13:04] <SonikkuAmerica> I don't know if Lubuntu has an alternate CD image or not...
[13:04] <DoctorD90> but if i need/want a package (like xchat for example) i need to downlod?
[13:04] <SonikkuAmerica> !alternate
[13:07] <DoctorD90> with mini cd, i have ONLY the package that mini.iso has got....i need some other tools...
[13:07] <DoctorD90> and sometimes i hasnt internet connection :/
[13:07] <DoctorD90> for this i was mind to a custom live cd
[13:10] <phillw> DoctorD90: have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remastersys
[13:15] <DoctorD90> phillw, maybe you have target look on :D
[13:16] <DoctorD90> SonikkuAmerica, im trying mini.iso, but it is downloading automatically package....without asking nothing :/
[13:17] <DoctorD90> (ihave use commandlineinstallation)
[13:17] <SonikkuAmerica> DoctorD90: Did you select anything in the menu that lets you select what you want?
[13:18] <DoctorD90> only keybord and language...
[13:18] <DoctorD90> now it has asking for user name
[13:20] <SonikkuAmerica> So keep going...
[13:20] <DoctorD90> ok ^^
[13:20] <DoctorD90> but (tell me if i wrong) each time i run it
[13:21] <DoctorD90> it need a installation/internet collection
[13:21] <SonikkuAmerica> OK... (I mean first it pulls the Ubuntu base in)
[13:21] <DoctorD90> needs*
[13:21] <DoctorD90> i need a totally offline live cd :)
[13:21] <DoctorD90> that is my problem :)
[13:22] <DoctorD90> if i have a internet connection, i make a bash script that install all my enviorement suite ^^
[13:22] <DoctorD90> and it runs gnome (i think) and i run on old pc too :)
[13:24] <SonikkuAmerica> GNOME 2 or 3?
[13:24] <DoctorD90> i dont know...it is downloading
[13:31] <DoctorD90> configutarion linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic
[13:31] <DoctorD90> so, gnome 3 i think
[13:32] <SonikkuAmerica> It would have GNOME 3 in it...
[13:33] <DoctorD90> id like to use lubuntu for it's wheigthless...
[13:33] <DoctorD90> ness*
[13:33] <SonikkuAmerica> lubuntu-desktop should be selectable in the "Select what you want" menu
[13:38] <DoctorD90> ah ok
[13:38] <DoctorD90> i wiat the finish of installation...
[13:38] <DoctorD90> if it does not ask, i wil lre-install trough normal installation mode
[13:38] <DoctorD90> and not with command line
[15:31] <cerebrate> freedom buddies :D
[15:32] <SonikkuAmerica> !freedom
[16:11] <n-iCe> hi
[16:12] <n-iCe> lubuntu when boots says trying to detect network connection and takes a long time to boot
[16:12] <n-iCe> why's that?
[16:57] <Tritonio> Can someone suggest a better sound mixer than the default one?
[16:58] <wxl> Tritonio: what's wrong with alsamixer?
[16:58] <Tritonio> for one I have to reach the keyboard to use it.
[17:01] <wxl> Tritonio: without installing pulse, you've got a bunch of packages with a lot of other requirements http://alsa.opensrc.org/AlsaMixers
[17:01] <wxl> gamix died in lucid
[17:02] <wxl> gnome-alsamixer means you're installing a bunch of gnome stuff
[17:03] <wxl> kde with kmix and likely kalsamixer tho the latter is not in the repos
[17:04] <wxl> volti?
[17:05] <wxl> oh!
[17:06] <wxl> !info alsamixergui | Tritonio
[17:07] <wxl> also if you like qt..
[17:07] <wxl> !info qasmixer | Tritonio
[17:08] <Tritonio> Also since I noticed again: I've changed my theme to something darker which I downloaded. I installed both a theme for openbox and new widgets (which, correct me if I am wrong, is a GTK theme, right?). But some applications are still gray with rectangular buttons. For example Lubuntu Software Center.
[17:14] <dexta> prevening
[17:27] <cerebrate> yo_mama so FAT32?
[17:27] <cerebrate> 8p
[17:27] <yo_mama> what is the latest version of Chrome for Ubuntu/Lubuntu?
[17:27] <cerebrate> they call it chromium
[17:28] <yo_mama> on windows it's version 26
[17:28] <yo_mama> but in my Lubuntu it's 25
[17:30] <cerebrate> cool
[17:32] <yo_mama> anyone else here besides cerebrate?
[17:33] <zleap> cerebrate, i thought chrome and chromium were different
[17:33] <zleap> given i have had both installed at the same time
[17:39] <SonikkuAmerica> yo_mama: Only 25? A dist-upgrade could be in order then...
[17:40] <zleap> chat shortly
[17:43] <yo_mama> how do I mount a networkdrive in Lubuntu?
[17:47] <SonikkuAmerica> yo_mama: I believe PCManFM can do it
[17:47] <yo_mama> and wtf is that?
[17:47] <SonikkuAmerica> ... the file manager
[17:48] <wxl> yo_mama: is this a windows/samba share? what sort of file systme?
[17:49] <yo_mama> cifs
[17:49] <yo_mama> a NAS
[17:50] <wxl> yeah you should just be able to browse it with the file manager
[17:50] <wxl> i'm not in front of lubuntu right now but i seem to remember in the menu there was a network or places sort of option
[17:50] <wxl> you could also use cifs-tools and mount it that way
[17:51] <wxl> naturally that means you could automount it, too
[17:51] <wxl> yo_mama: you may find this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[17:52] <yo_mama> I'm not familiar with the shell
[17:52] <wxl> yo_mama: then use the file manager
[17:52] <yo_mama> I am but it doesn't work
[17:52] <yo_mama> I get an error message
[17:53] <yo_mama> "The  specified location is not mounted"
[17:53] <wxl> hard to help you when you're not clear on exactly what you're seeing
[17:53]  * wxl loads lubuntu up and attempts to connect to a drive he has
[17:53] <yo_mama> what is the latest version of google chrome for Ubuntu?
[17:54] <wxl> yo_mama: look on chrome's websit?
[17:54] <yo_mama> mistake!
[17:54] <yo_mama> forget that paste
[17:55] <wxl> so i'm going to Go > Network Drives > (in my case) Windows Network and yep i get an error
[17:55] <wxl> weird
[17:55] <wxl> never got that before
[17:55] <wxl> sounds like we got a bug
[17:55] <wxl> do you know the ip of your drive?
[17:56] <yo_mama> yes
[17:56] <wxl> you might be able to connect to it that way
[17:56] <yo_mama> how do I use the ip to access the NAS ?
[17:57] <wxl> not sure which exact protocol it will use
[17:57] <wxl> but something like:
[17:57] <wxl> smbfs://<ip>
[17:57] <wxl> in the address bar
[17:57] <yo_mama> the adress bar in what program?
[17:57] <wxl> the same one we've been talking about
[17:59] <yo_mama> what is the cifsmanager you mentioned?
[17:59] <wxl> there is no "cifsmanager" per se
[17:59] <wxl> but there is a file manager
[18:00] <wxl> pcmanfm
[18:00] <yo_mama> link?
[18:00] <wxl> if you have lubuntu, you have it
[18:00] <wxl> there is no link
[18:00] <wxl> click the thing that looks like a file folder
[18:00] <wxl> also under accessories
[18:01] <wxl> throw smb://<ip> in the address bar and hope and pray
[18:01] <wxl> seems to me it's broken, though
[18:02] <yo_mama> Linux is soo complicated compared to Windows and OSX
[18:02] <yo_mama> it's a shame
[18:02] <wxl> when there are bugs, they are complicated
[18:02] <wxl> i don't know if you've noticed, but windows and os x has them, too
[18:02] <yo_mama> I want to like Linux but it's hard!
[18:02] <wxl> only they take foreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever to fix
[18:03] <wxl> but if you'd rather feed the hungry mouths of the corporation machine, knock yourself out
[18:03] <yo_mama> I like the Linux philosopy but I don't like the lack of userfriendlyness
[18:04] <yo_mama> forgive my spelling
[18:05] <zleap> yo_mama, in what way is it difficult to use
[18:06] <yo_mama> zleap: [19:51] <wxl> yo_mama: you may find this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[18:07] <yo_mama> wxl: don't get me wrong. I'm thankful for your help.
[18:08] <zleap> ah so its setting some services, i can see your point there
[18:08] <wxl> yo_mama: you should file a bug against pcmanfm
[18:08] <yo_mama> can you recommend another filemanager that I can install?
[18:08] <wxl> yo_mama: nope, i can recommend you file a bug
[18:08] <wxl> yo_mama: meanwhile you can use the command line as stated in that link
[18:08] <SonikkuAmerica> yo_mama: That and maybe Nautilus.
[18:09] <SonikkuAmerica> yo_mama: But I warn you...
[18:09] <yo_mama> scary!
[18:09] <SonikkuAmerica> yo_mama: You'll pull in all of GTK+ 3 in with you if you do that.
[18:10] <SonikkuAmerica> yo_mama: Thunar might be better, but that'll pull in all of XFCE.
[18:10] <wxl> ...which gets me back to my previous "no"
[18:11] <yo_mama> there's nothing like getting the last word, right wxl ?
[18:11] <SonikkuAmerica> wxl: It doesn't, but it also does. It's like setting and resetting a D flip-flop at the same time.
[18:13] <yo_mama> sudo apt-get install smbfs that is like chinese to me
[18:14] <yo_mama> maybe I'll go back to good old windows where things work
[18:15] <SonikkuAmerica> yo_mama: Don't do that; we'll miss you!
[18:15] <SonikkuAmerica> !windows
[18:16] <SonikkuAmerica> ^ That was counter-productive... :\
[19:55] <Okabi> Meow
[20:02] <cerebrate> hi