[12:49] Is it going to start now in 10 minutes? [13:01] shouldn't it be starting now? [13:01] good morning all [13:01] hi nik90 [13:01] hi rickspencer3 [13:01] I think times are UTC [13:01] nik90, Summit says 14 UTC which is in one hour [13:02] well, 59 minutes ;) [13:02] nik90, I made the same mistake and just called jono asking where he was :) [13:02] he was not terribly happy to get my call 1 hour early [13:02] :) [13:02] as did i! [13:02] :) [13:02] oh...starts in an hour. well, guess I can make some coffee now [13:05] good morning mmrazik, kgunn, dbarth__ [13:05] hi [13:06] hello [13:06] mornin === dbarth__ is now known as dbarth [13:08] it's live,yup [13:10] yes [13:11] dbarth: the video ? where ? [13:11] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21601/introduction/ [13:11] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21798/intro/ still says "The videos will appear there" since... 30 minutes at least [13:12] notclive: thanks [13:12] that is the old one [13:12] notclive: thats the uds for 13.04 the previous cycle :) [13:12] 13-03 as compared to 13-05 [13:12] vila: what notclive said ;) [13:13] vila: nothing to worry since they keynote speaker rick spencer is in this room :) [13:13] the* [13:13] dang, I got it from http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/2013-05-14/ [13:13] ahhh [13:13] Someone should update the topic. [13:13] Looks like no ops though :\ [13:15] hi all, it says on summit that the plenary starts at 14UTC [13:16] rickspencer3: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/2013-05-14/ points to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21798/intro/ but the video is actually streamed from http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21601/introduction/ [13:17] rickspencer3: it's only by joining here that I got the right url, there were other people using the wrong one like me [13:17] vila: thanks for the pointer! [13:18] except that I'm getting "This video is currently unavailable" :-/ [13:18] vila, I think that is the hangout from the last vUDS [13:18] mmrazik: from http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21601/introduction/ ? [13:18] No, that is for 13-03, as I already stated vila. [13:19] rickspencer3: I realize 1303 is the last vUDS which is why I'm surprised it's where the hangout is streamed from [13:19] This is 13-05 [13:19] I gave the wrong url [13:19] and so it [13:19] vila: yup :-/ [13:19] 's just 13:19 UTC right now [13:19] oops, the topic is wrong, though, it says uds-1303 [13:20] no ops :/ [13:20] JoshStrobl: I pasted those urls from my browser [13:20] oh... true... daylight savings = 13:19 UTC right now [13:20] yeah, we start at 14UTC, in about 40 min [13:20] so the keynote starts in ~40 minutes? [13:20] congrats vila, want a cookie? [13:20] okay [13:20] thanks [13:20] no one should be late now :) [13:20] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/2013-05-14/ http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21798/intro/ === olli__ is now known as olli [13:21] hi everybody [13:21] hi olli [13:22] hey all [13:22] hi tvoss [13:22] hey rickspencer3 [13:22] rickspencer3: I'm lost 8-/ Are you rehearsing and the plenary will really start at 14:00 UTC ? (aka in 40 minutes) [13:22] vila, what you see there is a recording of the last plenar [13:22] y [13:23] * vila facepalms [13:23] :) [13:23] vila, if it helps, I was confused too [13:23] rickspencer3: thanks for clarifying :) [13:24] JoshStrobl: cookie welcome by the way, I thought there was something broken and wanted to raise the issue sooner than later :) [13:24] better safe than sorry, I'm happy to be both ;) [13:24] Something is broken, just nobodys fixed it. 1. Inaccurate topic. 2. OpenID register / login is broken. [13:25] JoshStrobl, no one with ops has joined the channel, I think [13:25] Yea, so it seems [13:26] 'morning cjohnston :) [13:26] heya [13:27] grr [13:28] yay! === cjohnston changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-plenary to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/plenary/ - http://ubottu.com/uds-logs/%23ubuntu-uds-plenary.log [13:28] It's the little things in life [13:29] thank you cjohnston <3 [13:29] ah so direct irc works, just not the freenode website [13:29] * JoshStrobl hugs cjohnston for the topic change [13:29] fisch246: correct. we are trying to get summit fixed [13:29] no prob [13:30] not your fault anyway [13:31] so i'm down another nexus 7 -__- their screens are so cheap [13:31] i think the next step is to just get a nexus 4 from ting once they have them [13:32] you gotta stop taking your frustrations of Ubuntu Phone out on your Nexus 7 man! [13:33] speaking of which if there's any ubuntu touch devs here, i highly suggest getting in contact with ting [13:33] Probably would be best to talk to them in #ubuntu-touch [13:33] true [13:51] hello everyone [13:51] \o/ [13:51] "A Swedish Pirate Bay user who was accidentally caught sharing 57 movies during a friend's house search will face prison time if the authorities get their way. The man was previously ordered to pay a fine, but the prosecutor has now submitted the case …" apparently it's a jail-able offense now *rolls eyes* [13:52] rickspencer3, \o [13:52] hey rick! [13:52] everyone ready for a fun UDS? there a lot of interesting topics for this one [13:53] SDK, click packages, juju GUI, etc... [13:53] As ready as one can ever be. :) [13:53] rickspencer: Sure! [13:53] yup [13:53] I have slides and everything [13:54] no burn down charts though [13:54] :) [13:54] rickspencer3: We are waiting:) [13:54] :-( [13:54] no burn charts? :-( [13:54] cjohnston, you want burndowns [13:54] ? [13:54] * JoshStrobl is waiting =) [13:54] hehe [13:54] rickspencer3: maybe [13:54] rickspencer3: what about a new spenc'o'meter? [13:54] I once made the case at a UDS that burndown charts were a more important discovery than writing itself [13:54] rickspencer3: I have a session about burndowns [13:55] 5 mins! [13:58] I think the best thing to be available for UDS this time around is Google+ Hangout's ability to automute someone when it detects keyboard typing. [13:59] JoshStrobl: also the fact that you do not need to keep refreshing the window to see if the stream is up or not. [13:59] Yea, totally forgot about that! [13:59] jono and I are warming up [13:59] just about ready to go [14:00] rickspencer3: Hurray! [14:00] I'm looking at jono's grumpy cat desktop wallpaper [14:00] so i uninstalled windows. [14:00] lol [14:00] Does http://video.ubuntu.com/live/ list the wrong start time? I got there from http://uds.ubuntu.com/agenda/ and it says "The next live stream will begin at 16:55 CET / 15:55 UTC..." [14:00] fisch246: \o/ [14:01] rickspencer3: hurray :) [14:01] hey all, we should be live now :) [14:01] rickspencer3: nervous :P> [14:01] nik90, nah [14:01] excited [14:01] Awesome! [14:02] We're live! [14:03] * kenvandine doesn't see anything yet [14:03] morning everyone! [14:03] is the Webchat error just because it's turned off for the plenary, or is Webchat broken? [14:03] \o [14:03] Hi! Webchat is currently unavailable due to network issues. You can follow the status on twitter, identi.ca and Google+. [14:03] kenvandine: I had to force refresh [14:03] not working [14:04] grrr... i love watching rickspencer3 speak! [14:04] if the stream isn't working, remember to refresh your page [14:04] kenvandine: try http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fExfA0i2yEE [14:04] hey kenvandine [14:04] I got muted! [14:04] that worked! [14:04] goodie :D [14:04] kenvandine: rick is not speaking yet [14:04] good... i'd hate to miss rickspencer3 :-D [14:04] hehe [14:04] I guess I shouldn't have been grinding my coffee beans while jono was speaking [14:05] rickspencer3: is that an euphemism? [14:05] * rickspencer3 kicks popey === hikiko_ is now known as hikiko-uds [14:05] Oh hey, it's poopy! :P [14:06] Try midnight in Australia. [14:06] nice! [14:07] Meh, I can't watch [14:07] Yea, the brave world for our down under users [14:08] o/ cjwatson [14:08] ahoy [14:09] what's the smiley for that "oh-my-god-why-am-i-awake-now" feeling? [14:09] ___ [14:09] the [Ether]Pad doesn't seem to be working for me [14:09] will there be vegetable porn in this presentation? I want pics. [14:10] JoshStrobl: Go to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad [14:10] And join the team. [14:11] thomi: You have my sympathies, although getting up at 2 AM is not so bad as starting at midnight. [14:11] correction: the track leads for foundations are me (Colin Watson) and Brian Murray, because Steve Langasek is on holiday this week === emanuel is now known as Guest19807 [14:12] hello from server cloud track 2 :-) [14:12] hello from laptop ares 1 [14:12] Hmm, my sessions are mostly in community 1 [14:13] One on Client 2 [14:14] "lucky people who got up during the day" i know right? [14:14] * JoshStrobl got up an hour early. Wasn't very happy. [14:16] hello [14:16] good morning k_alam [14:17] gd morning [14:18] Use *bold text* to look dramatic ;-) [14:18] or hysteric [14:20] still waiting for he vegetable porn [14:20] It's the Ubuntu Ubuntu Developer Summit! [14:21] Ubuntu UDS Summit [14:21] Ubuntu Developer Summit (that's just it) [14:21] RAS Syndrome :P [14:21] Isn't Hangout Toolbox a non-default Hangout app on Google+/ [14:21] like Personal PIN Number [14:22] ERROR:empathy-user-info.c:252:fill_contact_info_grid: assertion failed: (spec != NULL) [14:22] oops [14:22] my bad, didn't mean to paste that :P [14:23] If folks have any questions on server cloud track feel free to give Daviey or myself a ping. [14:25] its rick o'clock!!! [14:25] rick isn't fullscreen [14:25] kenvandine: hey! i actually have some rum this time! :) [14:25] click rick :-) [14:25] jono, disable your mic! [14:25] Yup, Jono should pin it on Rick [14:25] dobey, yum! [14:25] dobey, so do i :) [14:25] watching Jono drink water...so fascinating /sarcasm [14:26] would be nice if we could see the slides instead of jono's head [14:26] rickspencer3: can you ask jono to fix it so the slides are visible? [14:26] brown! [14:26] mdeslaur, Not sure, jono's head is very nice. [14:26] * d0od squints [14:26] dammit Jono [14:26] can we get focus on Rick's screen? :P [14:26] lol [14:26] I want to see that 9.04 screenshot! [14:26] mdeslaur, Perhaps needs some polish [14:26] so much for paying attention to IRC :P [14:26] it's brown, bilal, that's about it :P [14:26] Jono, mute your mic please so we can see the slides :) [14:26] tedg: maybe in a separate window? :) [14:26] \o/ [14:26] wake up jono [14:26] rickspencer3 -> you're not fullscreen onG+ [14:26] Perfect, fixed [14:26] I dont think jono realises he is visible :P [14:26] there we go! [14:26] ty :) [14:26] w00t [14:27] Guys i want to make a ubuntu distro [14:27] hi d0od! [14:27] hi zebaszp :) [14:27] hoi: Interesting… [14:27] how to make one [14:27] ??? [14:27] zebaszp: More orange than brown :) 9.10 went fully brown, except for the wallpaper [14:28] i thought of using Remastersys [14:28] bilal, lol, it was just a reference to Bryan Lunduke :P [14:28] hoi: http://askubuntu.com/q/48535/41 [14:29] hoi: why make a new one when you can contribute to an existing one? [14:29] zebaszp: Guess I should listen to his podcasts then [14:29] u know i want to make a mac look a like [14:29] system [14:29] hoi -> just go with elementaryOS then [14:29] hoi: elementaryOS [14:30] contribute to that [14:30] why make an os look like another os. [14:30] ? [14:30] there's already pear os [14:30] good one ......but something that i can share and one that is customized to what i like [14:30] people like to unnecessarily re-invent the wheel... [14:31] hoi, what about Pear OS? [14:31] !offtopic [14:31] there's plenty of reasons why you'd want it to look like the same os. people like familiarity. [14:31] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [14:31] guys ....can you tell me a program similar to Remastersys [14:31] hoi -> jump into #ubuntu for questions like that ;) [14:32] "about two paid designers" xD [14:32] gotta start somewhere [14:32] Notify-OSD rocks! [14:35] lol, the notes on the etherpad [14:35] never heard of smoke testing [14:35] (for software development) [14:36] hello [14:37] I still don't understand the difference between server and cloud versions [14:38] is any [14:38] *if [14:38] it's the same thing [14:38] it's just called "ubuntu server and cloud" [14:38] *almost* [14:38] then why are there two separate options on the download page? [14:39] there's a cloud image for deploying on clouds [14:39] which is stripped down, etc. [14:39] but the user-space is the same, it's not like a different distro or anything like that [14:39] I still don't think that the SDK is all that it should be [14:39] jcastro, isn't the kernel also a virtual kernel for running on the cloud? [14:39] fun fact: the user-space for the cloud images is the same user-space as the touch images. Who else can offer that? [14:40] balloons: it used to be, I don't think it is anymore [14:40] balloons: virtual = generic I think [14:40] $ apt-cache show linux-image-virtual | grep Depends [14:40] Depends: linux-image-3.9.0-1-generic [14:41] #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 [14:41] sorry :p [14:41] mwahah.. nice cjwatson [14:41] Lubuntu! [14:42] webchat is working now :) [14:42] And always should/will be [14:42] when there was a virtual kernel, it was actually just a repackaged version of the generic kernel to cut down on size by removing modules you wouldn't need, anyway [14:43] cjwatson, ohh of course.. it was never really different [14:43] o/ [14:44] o/ [14:44] thanks for listening kenvandine [14:44] oh! click packages! [14:44] New stuff:P [14:44] I need to watch that session [14:44] prefix your question with "QUESTION:" [14:44] lots of new stuff, 100 scopes, click packages, ubuntu sdk....yay [14:44] nik90: +1 [14:44] What room will the SDK chat be in [14:45] jono_: now I like to see you again :P [14:45] cjwatson: hah nice, talk about a timely vacation [14:45] jcastro: I for one was amused [14:45] jono_: unclick Rick [14:45] That lady in the background was very surprised by that, she was like "WHAT!" [14:45] or something like that === nik90 is now known as nik90_UDS [14:45] QUESTION: Let's say I'm kinda a new contributor and want to get involved with some sessions, what sessions would you guys recommend to attend? [14:45] QUESTION: do we still have to eat vegetables during this UDS? [14:45] balloons: ROFLA [14:45] [question] support f2fs ? [14:45] QUESTION: I was able to use Raring as my main OS very early on, like january, would you recommend moving to Saucy if I like my stuff rolling? [14:46] ubuntu SDK was have the Java sintaxe for developer? [14:46] (keep in mind there's a lag between the video stream and the IRC stream; jono will notice your question some 20s after you type them :-) [14:46] QUESTION : Will Mir be usable on the desktop by 13.10? [14:46] zebaszp: it's been usable since a few days after the start (with the exception of a few glitches due to the switch to logind) === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-plenary to: Track: | Ubuntu Developer Summit 13.05 Intro with Jono Bacon and Rick Spencer | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21798/intro/ [14:46] logind? cool [14:47] Guest19807: most devices we target don't expose actual flash devices [14:47] zebaszp: i'm using saucy on at least one desktop now and it's good so far :) [14:47] I have saucy on my netbook, it's working fine [14:47] Guest19807: while eMMCs are flash based in devices targeted by Ubuntu Touch (e.g. Nexus phones and tablet), these are exposed as block devices [14:47] yay! I'll migrate soon then :) [14:48] victoraldir: (you might want to prefix your questions with QUESTION:) at the moment we focus on QML and C/C++ as the main target languages [14:48] Ubuntu 10.13 will be introduced "click packages"? [14:48] (for Ubuntu Touch) [14:48] if you run saucy learn how to open good bugs with full bug reports, and contribute back! [14:49] hope it stays that way [14:49] :) [14:49] we do our best to keep things working everyday... no promises it'll always be pefect [14:49] but it should be usable everyday [14:49] I have saucy too [14:49] Question : How, where and when can we add new sessions to an UDS ? [14:49] vincosentino: this will be discussed at one session [14:49] QUESTION: The ubuntu SDK was have the Java syntax for developer? [14:49] YoBoY:it's a bit late for new sessions [14:49] what are the IRC channels for the other sessions? [14:49] vincosentino: while there's already a prototype out there (lp:click-package), it's unlikely that the whole end-to-end solution is ready for inclusion in 13.10 [14:49] ptl: #ubuntu-uds-$name-of-track [14:49] mhall119_UDS, for the next time… ^^ [14:49] victoraldir: no Java support currently for the Ubuntu SDK [14:49] thanks tiagoscd-uds [14:49] \o/ [14:49] bye jono! [14:49] laters [14:50] ptl: e.g. #ubuntu-uds-community [14:50] After jono_ ended YouTube suggested that I want "Man Of Steal" TV spot. Ironic? [14:50] YoBoY: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Create [14:50] ptl: you can see the channel directly on the page where the session is happening [14:50] I gotta go for a while, but I'll try to attend to the click packages session, sounds very interesting [14:50] QUESTION:what is click-packages? [14:50] k, thanks, tiagoscd-uds [14:50] tedg:there's a strong correlation in Google's data between "Jono Bacon" and "Metal" [14:50] and lool [14:50] mhall119_UDS, haha [14:50] jonaszhang: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-May/037074.html [14:50] * bregma is disappointed y the sore lack of vegetable porn in the visual presentation [14:51] bregma, I'll talk to jono about it :) [14:51] bregma: Maybe dholbach can… [14:51] bregma, indeed... no motivation at all to eat veggies... [14:51] * tiagoscd agree bregma [14:51] he could have at least flashed an eggplant or something [14:51] meat and beer it is [14:51] stop it with the veggies already! :P [14:51] why veggies when Bacon? [14:52] thanks mhall119_UDS [14:53] o/ YoBoY [14:53] hi rickspencer3 :) how are you ? [14:53] YoBoY, doing really well, how about you? [14:54] tired :D uds and work at the same time it's hard ^^ [14:54] YoBoY, I can understand that! [14:54] #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 [14:55] YoBoY: same problem here, uds and work :( [14:56] tedg, makes sense :-) [14:56] jono_, Perhaps in vUDS you should encourage people to stand up and take a walk during lunch. [14:56] rickspencer3, and I can't stay for all the sessions, I have an appointment in 2 hours T_T (and after that… it's beer time :p) [14:57] Or we could have jasoncwarner lead a work out session! [14:57] :-) [14:57] * tedg would die [14:57] tedg, lol [14:57] YoBoY, well, with vUDS you can do beer + UDS at the same time :) [14:57] lol [14:58] rickspencer3, well… it's not fair for the people with me (macusers, windows users, or not PC addicts… ;) [14:58] (and I don't drink "alone") === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-plenary to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305//plenary/ - http://ubottu.com/udslog/%23ubuntu-uds-plenary [15:06] hey === blitzkrieg3 is now known as jmleddy === ts2 is now known as tsimpson_ [15:46] hi [15:47] hello goga7a, is there something we can help with? [16:28] hola [16:43] Full screen your business! [16:44] hi [16:44] is there a irc chat room rather than webpage chat [16:44] #ubuntu-uds-plenary on freenode [16:45] just saw it :) [16:45] :) [16:45] sorry for anoying u on g+ [16:45] :) [16:45] S'all good. [16:46] just relised lubuntu 13.04 doesn't have xchat installed just installed it [16:48] LUNCH SOON. [16:51] 4 :51 am here [16:51] seeing star trek at 12 in 3d lol [16:51] looks like your breakfast break then [16:52] :) === marcuspbaird_ is now known as marcusbaird [17:00] :) [17:07] I've not heard of "unity next" [17:07] http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/05/14/video-demo-of-unity-next-on-mir/ [17:08] thanks can i link that [17:08] on g+ === tvoss_ is now known as tvoss|dinner_lun [17:10] looks nice [17:10] marcusbaird: for sure [17:10] thanks not even sure if i am aloud in here :) [17:13] this is the hangout/plenary room [17:13] everyone's allowed [17:15] its fine just thought i was gate crashing a private summit :) all good links shared etc [17:18] Thanks I have to go but that was interesting :) think some others will think so two === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === tvoss|dinner_lun is now known as tvoss === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [19:15] hello? === hikiko__ is now known as hikiko-uds === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [20:29] join #ubuntu-uds === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-plenary to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/plenary/ - http://ubottu.com/udslog/%23ubuntu-uds-plenary