[14:19] <jamespage> o/
[15:05] <jamespage> I'm the nominated irc channel watcher
[15:05] <jamespage> feel free to ping me with questions etc...
[15:06] <thomnico> will there be a video ??
[15:07] <jamespage> thomnico, looking at that now
[15:07] <thomnico> ok not on my side then :)
[15:08] <jamespage> thomnico, nope we might have an issue
[15:09] <jamespage> anyone else in channel getting video?
[15:09] <jamespage> thomnico, is it just missing from the session page?
[15:10] <jamespage> OK - the session page is not working
[15:10] <jamespage> direct URL
[15:10] <robbiew-uds> is there video for this session?
[15:10] <jamespage> http://youtu.be/WtoQ9oLww0w
[15:10] <robbiew-uds> ah ha!
[15:11] <robbiew-uds> :)
[15:11] <adam_g> i can't see it from the UDS page
[15:11] <spideyman> i can't see it either
[15:12] <spideyman> from the summit page
[15:12] <phschwartz> jamespage: is the video running from that youtube link. All I get is Please stand by.
[15:12] <jamespage> OK _ so everyone in channel  please use the direct URL for the time being
[15:12] <jamespage> http://youtu.be/WtoQ9oLww0w
[15:12] <jamespage> phschwartz, please relase
[15:12] <jamespage> reload rather
[15:13] <phschwartz> jamespage: That did it :)
[15:13] <jamespage> zul is about to go again with the session intro
[15:13] <avoine> yeah, the direct url works for me
[15:16] <avoine> what about baremetal in nova?
[15:17] <jamespage> avoine, I have your question - I'll inject it into the g+ when adam has finished
[15:17] <avoine> ok
[15:19] <phschwartz> Question: Has it been looked at to remove tgt as a dep of cinder as there is the option of using other things like iscsiadm that will not function with tgt installed, but removing tgt will uninstall cinder.
[15:21] <jamespage> phschwartz, +1 great idea
[15:23] <Daviey> Embedded stream is working now
[15:26] <avoine> Question: Any plan for running tests for postgresql?
[15:27] <phschwartz> Yes, tempest needs the whole stack
[15:29] <jamespage> avoine, got your question
[15:37] <phschwartz> With havana depricating nova-network, will quantum be moved in as a dep of nova package wise?
[15:39] <thomnico> Will in place upgrade of Grizzly be part of the testing ?? (ref: Mark S. demo at ODS)
[15:40] <jamespage> thomnico, OK_ got you question
[15:40] <jamespage> cover that later....
[15:40] <jamespage> OpenStack QA
[15:41] <thomnico> thanks
[15:41] <Daviey> Any other Questions?
[15:44] <avoine> very informative, thanks!
[15:44] <phschwartz> yes, ty
[15:47]  * medberry joins a bit late
[15:47] <Daviey> med_: any questions ?
[15:48] <med_> not sure how I'd have any--just got here.
[15:49] <med_> Daviey, jamespage : did you guys talk about the support gap?
[15:49] <med_> Grizzly UCA 9mo.s
[15:49] <jamespage> next session
[15:50] <med_> nod.
[15:50] <roaksoax> jamespage: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure
[15:52] <phschwartz> by
[15:52] <jamespage> thanks folks!
[15:52] <phschwartz> *buy
[15:53] <Daviey> Thanks all
[16:02] <zul> med: do you wanto to run irc
[16:26] <med_> thanks for clarifying jamespage & daviey
[16:27] <med_> zul, sure.
[16:27] <med_> any questions in IRC, feel free to mention my nic
[16:27] <med_> and I'll proxy into the meetin
[16:27] <med_> and I'll proxy into the meeting
[16:28] <med_> is adam_g wearing google glass?
[16:34] <med_> Any questions/discussion about the Ubuntu Cloud Archive for the hangout?
[16:55] <med_> quiet -- too quiet
[18:00] <jamespage> hey folks!
[18:01] <jamespage> I'm the irc channel watcher - ping me with questions to interject into the session
[18:01] <jamespage> please feel free to request to join the hangout if you want to be more vocal as well.
 hey folks!
[18:05] <jamespage>  I'm the irc channel watcher - ping me with questions to interject into the session
[18:05] <jamespage>  please feel free to request to join the hangout if you want to be more vocal as well.
[18:05] <med_> and we're about to go live
[18:06] <med_> refresh
[18:20] <s3hh> \o
[18:21] <jamespage> hey s3hh
[18:21] <smb> Think there was some option in /boot/config..
[18:21] <jamespage> I'm the irc monitor - I'll route questions to the discussion
[18:22] <smb> grep DOM0 /boot/config-3.2.0-42-generic
[18:22] <smb> CONFIG_XEN_DOM0=y
[18:22] <bladernr`> is there documentation somewhere about doing this wihtout running a separate dom0 kernel? I didn't realize you could use Xen as a backend for Openstack without running the Xen kernel
[18:22] <smb> Daviey, Cannot run at the same time
[18:23] <med_> I can't imagine kvm inside of Xen but based on historical background could conceptually visualize xen inside of kvm (but haven't tried and wouldn't "support" it)
[18:24] <smb> med_, Probably depending on which cpu features are passed through, but have not either
[18:25] <s3hh> how come zul doesn't have a title?  poor zul.
[18:25] <jamespage> bladernr`, not yet - one of the WI's
[18:25] <smb> bladernr`, You do not need to run a seperate kernel but its still a different boot (hypervisor + dom0 )
[18:26] <s3hh> jamespage:  i'm really, really, really, really bad at watching video.  pls do shout at me if i need to answer anything.
[18:26] <Daviey> s3hh: don't worry :)
[18:26] <Daviey> s3hh: anything to add?
[18:27] <med_> bladernr`, anything else?
[18:27] <bladernr`> ahhh, ok
[18:27] <bladernr`> I misunderstood that then
[18:27] <smb> Daviey, It gets added to grub as multiboot
[18:27] <s3hh> Daviey: nope
[18:28] <Daviey> thanks
[18:50] <Daviey> Who is attending the fish bowl for Openstack QA?
[18:51] <Daviey> 14 mins :)
[18:52] <zul> me i guess
[19:01] <zyga> hi
[19:02] <Daviey> starting in 3 mins
[19:06] <jamespage> video stream starting shortly
[19:08] <Daviey> anybody from QA team here?
[19:09] <zyga> I'm from certification
[19:09] <zyga> we're working on cloud certification and we're interested certifying openstack
[19:09] <Daviey> zyga: wanna join the inner circle?
[19:10] <zyga> Daviey: sure
[19:10] <Daviey> zyga: PM sent
[19:12] <zyga> thanks
[19:12] <med_> jamespage, zul: will this only be for S testing or also for stable testing?
[19:13] <bladernr> What kind of testing? You said "Certifying" Ubuntu... what does that imply?
[19:14] <zyga> bladernr: do you want to be there instead of me?
[19:14] <zyga> bladernr: I guess you're more suited
[19:16] <med_> we can join others if interested--room for more.
[19:22] <zyga> bladernr: so cloudbox needs to talk to tempest more :)
[19:23] <Daviey> Is it worth us investigating if tempest can support a more parseable output format?
[19:23] <med_> is the HA testing part of our normal post-commit testing?
[19:23] <zyga> Daviey: or we could contribute one
[19:24] <Daviey> med_: currently, no
[19:24] <adam_g> Daviey, how so?
[19:24] <Daviey> zyga: right!
[19:26] <adam_g> tempest is just a glorified unittest suite, you can output xunit
[19:26] <zyga> adam_g: ah, very good then
[19:26] <Daviey> adam_g: sounds good
[19:27]  * zyga can probably leave now that bladernr and spideyman are here
[19:27] <Daviey> plars: Hi! Are you able to jon the inner circle?
[19:27] <plars> hi
[19:27] <plars> sure
[19:27] <plars> shoot me a link
[19:27] <Daviey> zyga: input welcome
[19:27] <zyga> Daviey: I left, we already have two people from my team
[19:27] <zyga> Daviey: I'll watch the stream
[19:28] <Daviey> zyga: thanks for your input!
[19:30] <zyga> I have a question about what this is generally scoped at, are you really looking at testing each commit that upstream lands into git?
[19:31] <adam_g> zyga, we have been doing that for lighter integration tests, not stress tests
[19:31] <zyga> adam_g: is that also going through all the packaging so that at the end you get a deb per commit?
[19:34] <Daviey> zyga: yes
[19:34] <zyga> I'm a few dozen seconds behind the stream
[19:34] <zyga> but thanks that answers my question
[19:35] <Daviey> zul: Are you sure we want to step into the matrix?
[19:35] <zul> i had the blue pill this morning
[19:36] <zyga> question: do we know how other distros that ship openstack do testing?
[19:36] <Daviey> zyga: barely
[19:43] <zyga> hey
[19:43] <zyga> there's a tool that tracks dependencies moving on pypi
[19:43] <zyga> I've been using it
[19:43] <zyga> it emails stuff whenever there are changes to upstream packages that something depends on
[19:44] <zul> zyga:  which tool is this?
[19:44] <med_> zyga, what tool is that
[19:44] <Daviey> zul: what is the name of the tool?
[19:44] <med_> heh.
[19:44] <zyga> it has a stupid name
[19:44] <med_> piling on.
[19:44] <zyga> let me get a link from my inbosx
[19:45] <med_> zyga, oh, is it called zul?
[19:45]  * med_ ducks
[19:45] <zyga> no
[19:45] <zyga> give me a sec
[19:46] <zyga> carry on
[19:46] <med_> we are
[19:46] <med_> they are
[19:49] <cjohnston> Daviey: are you all referring to reports.qa.ubuntu.com ?
[19:50] <cjohnston> or the jenkins dashboard
[19:50] <jamespage> cjohnston, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com
[19:50] <jamespage> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Openstack_Testing
[19:50] <zyga> http://getshrubbery.com/
[19:50] <cjohnston> ack.. the qa team is going to try working on it
[19:50] <zyga> shruberry wtf
[19:51] <cjohnston> jamespage: ^
[19:51] <jamespage> cjohnston, thanks
[19:52] <med_> with getshrubbery, all our projects should stay green
[19:52] <spideyman> just throwing this out there https://code.launchpad.net/~checkbox-dev/cloud-testing/cloudbox, maybe we could look into folding new openstack test jobs here
[19:52] <zyga> spideyman: you should land that new cloudbox executable there
[19:54] <plars> that's a very pythonic name :)