[00:16] <jcastro> jrwren: around?
[02:12] <jrwren> jcastro: yes
[02:12] <jrwren> well, now I am
[13:08] <jcastro> jrwren: I'm going on the stackexchange podcast with joel and crew!
[13:08] <snap-l> jcastro: Woah
[13:09] <snap-l> We'll know an internet celebrity. :)
[13:09] <rick_h_> jcastro: rock it man
[13:09] <rick_h_> ah, that was more general vs 'right now'
[13:09] <rick_h_> nvm
[13:09] <rick_h_> always hate the day before vacation, don't want to take any new task on and leave it for a week
[13:11] <snap-l> Heh
[13:16] <snap-l> jcastro: Love this brainstorm talk
[13:16] <jcastro> brainstorm is my pain
[13:16] <snap-l> Everyone agrees that bs is dead
[13:16] <jcastro> I joined the company and it was assigned to me
[13:16] <jcastro> it's not even my idea
[13:16] <snap-l> but then someone comes along and says "I know! Let's integrate ideas into launchpad"
[13:16] <snap-l> now you have n+1 problems.
[13:16] <jcastro> that's basically the same shit
[13:17] <rick_h_> no more into launchpad
[13:17] <snap-l> Honestly, I think ask.ubuntu.com has been more productive for ideas than brainstorm ever was.
[13:17] <rick_h_> for ideas?
[13:18] <snap-l> because you can close it as "please file this as a bug"
[13:18] <rick_h_> for broken things, docs, hints at xxx...but I wouldn't say ideas
[13:18] <jcastro> there's no ideas on askubuntu
[13:18] <snap-l> Any reason that's not the case/
[13:18] <snap-l> ?
[13:19] <snap-l> Seems like the perfect meta topic
[13:44] <jrwren> jcastro: nice!
[13:44] <jrwren> jcastro: what are you going on there for? what you talking about?
[13:45] <jcastro> askubuntu
[13:45] <jcastro> I think it's with a bunch of other stackexchange users
[13:45] <jcastro> like, one guy from gaming, etc.
[13:45] <jrwren> oh nice. that makes good sense.
[13:46] <brousch> jcastro has edited every single post and comment on askubuntu evar!
[13:46] <jrwren> jcastro: May 22nd, 6pm @ fanzoo, downtown ann arbor. just a bunch of nerdy devs deving, if you want to hang.
[13:46] <jcastro> brousch: only about 8%. :)
[13:46] <brousch> really?
[13:46] <jcastro> yeah
[13:46] <jcastro> jrwren: that could be doable, ping me day of pls
[13:47] <jcastro> this week is kind of crazy
[13:47] <brousch> I would have actually guessed 75% of posts
[13:47] <jcastro> but I am speaking @ LUGWASH
[13:47] <snap-l> jcastro: You're not happening to come to MUG tonight? :)
[13:48] <snap-l> Raspberry Pi tonight: http://www.mug.org/
[13:48] <snap-l> lmorchard is presenting
[13:49] <jrwren> oh man, lugwash is still around?
[13:49] <snap-l> Yeah, and apparently active
[13:49] <snap-l> Kevin O'Brien is busily trying to attract speakers
[13:50] <snap-l> Much like MUG is. ;)
[13:50] <snap-l> ^.-
[13:52] <jrwren> i guess its been at least 5 yrs since I went to one.
[14:08] <rick_h_> snap-l: going to miss CHC again this week, but hoping to make MUG tonight
[14:08] <rick_h_> snap-l: dad arrives wed night
[15:17] <snap-l_> rick_h_: No worries
[15:18] <snap-l_> Will make sure we're staffed. :)
[16:55] <snap-l> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1ebhb6/ubuntu_brainstorm_shuts_down/
[16:55] <snap-l> Some days I just want to smack people.
[16:57] <rick_h_> some? /me checks if today ends in 'y'
[16:58] <flipsidecreation> Dealing with the general public statistically confirms this
[17:00] <flipsidecreation> perhaps Ubuntu is going the Apple route and will just tell people what they want
[17:29] <jcastro> making opinionated decisions is what ubuntu has always been about
[17:32] <greg-g> If you wanted choice, you'd stick with Debian. If you wanted a complete/configured system OOTB, go with Ubuntu
[17:32] <flipsidecreation> that is why I only run pure debian for my servers
[18:10] <rick_h_> someone say orange please
[18:11] <greg-g> purple
[18:11] <greg-g> oh, sorry
[18:11] <rick_h_> suck
[18:11] <greg-g> orange
[18:11] <rick_h_> ty much
[18:17] <jcastro> flipsidecreation: does debian run a brainstorm?
[18:18] <rick_h_> does anyone run one? :P
[18:18] <snap-l> jcastro: Just have some janitor in the datacenter accidentally dump mercury in the brainstorm machine
[18:18] <snap-l> instant hazmat situation, have to decommission the server, so sorry.
[18:20] <jjesse> has there really been a bunch of pushback that brainstorm is being turned off?
[18:20] <jcastro> not really
[18:21] <snap-l> jjesse: Anytime the suggestion box is closed, people bitch
[18:21] <jcastro> I mean, if people cared about it that much it'd be maintained
[18:21] <jjesse> snap-l, yeah i know that
[18:21] <snap-l> Even if the only thing it contains is a dead centipede
[18:21] <jjesse> oh jcastro  were you in the Delta baggage area at Detroit Airport on Saturday evening?
[18:21] <snap-l> and happens to be made of balsa wood and tears
[18:21] <jjesse> or do you have a doppleganger
[18:22] <jcastro> jjesse: yes, why yes I was!
[18:22] <jcastro> with mark ramm
[18:22] <flipsidecreation> jcastro: I don't think they do
[18:22] <jjesse> ah my wife son and i were just arriving from Baltimore
[18:22] <jjesse> and it was cheaper to fly into detroit than grand rapids
[18:22] <jcastro> ah
[18:22] <jcastro> next time say something!
[18:23] <snap-l> "Hey! Guy that looks like Jorge!!!"
[18:23] <jjesse> haha i was trying to conrol my 5 year old who had just sat on a plane for 2 hours
[18:23] <jjesse> due to being delayed etc
[18:25] <jrwren> you could have controlled him by saying "go kick that guy in the shin and say hi jorge"
[18:26] <rick_h_> heh, it's how all the parents are saying 'hi' these days
[18:26] <snap-l> you could have paid for his college that way.
[18:26] <snap-l> because I'm sure we all would have paid to see that.
[18:28] <jrwren> flying between baltimore and detroit is kinda funny. its two very run down cities
[18:31] <jjesse> lol
[18:31] <jjesse> both airports are actually really nice
[18:32] <jjesse> BWI and DTW
[19:50] <snap-l> greg-g: Someone else mentioned th G+ events problem
[19:50] <snap-l> I haven't seen that problem in a while.
[19:50] <rick_h_> I had it today :P
[19:50] <rick_h_> a certain mug event invite that came along
[19:51] <greg-g> not to name names
[19:51] <greg-g> :P
[19:51] <snap-l> Heh
[19:51] <snap-l> "If you select no, you won't see any events on your calendar except for those which you've responded yes to. This setting only applies to you. People you've shared your calendar with will still be able to see all events on your calendar."
[19:51] <snap-l> "Automatically add invitations to my calendar:"
[19:52] <snap-l> But I think it'll still pass them along to others(?)
[19:52] <greg-g> which, right, *that* makes sense
[19:52] <greg-g> effing google
[19:52] <snap-l> Yeah, I don't quite get that shit.
[19:54] <snap-l> Why the fuck would they add that to my ical feed?
[19:54] <greg-g> where do you see that option?
[19:54] <snap-l> Under Calendar / (Gear) / Calendar Details
[19:55] <snap-l> unfortunately it still adds them to your .ics exports
[19:55] <snap-l> which is retarded.
[19:55] <snap-l> sorry, Calendar Settings / General /
[19:56] <snap-l> So it'll hide it from your Google Calendar and phone
[19:56] <snap-l> but not from people who you share your calendar with
[19:56] <greg-g> ah, not in g+, where that shit is coming from
[19:56] <greg-g> no worries, went in and disabled a bunch of other annoying shit that was irking me
[19:57] <snap-l> I think you have to literally head to https://plus.google.com/u/0/events
[19:57] <snap-l> and delete every event one by one by ...
[19:58] <greg-g> lolz, I hover over the ? icon next to that setting, and I get "error" as the tooltip
[19:58] <greg-g> and I'm in chromium right now (logged into my work accoung in Fx)
[19:59] <snap-l> Nice.
[19:59] <snap-l> Seriously, unless I say "yes, please" that event should go nowhere near my calendar.
[20:00] <snap-l> That's a great way to get people into some serious trouble
[20:00]  * snap-l makes a note to invite everyone to a repeating Brony event
[20:01] <greg-g> I like Bronys
[20:02] <greg-g> but, wait, I don't think this setting is what I want. I want to see events that co-workers/Carrie invite me to, but not ones from G+
[20:03] <snap-l> I think that'll still work
[20:04] <greg-g> not clear from the settings language
[20:04] <greg-g> grumble grumble and people complain of FLOSS applications grumble grumble
[20:05] <snap-l> greg-g: You should see an invite from me
[20:05] <greg-g> at least with FLOSS I can go to an IRC channel, be called a newb (by a 15 year old) and to RTFM that doesn't exist. But at least there's *that*.
[20:09] <snap-l> Also, we're looking to get more folks into the MUG community so there's less chance of event-spamming
[20:19] <rick_h_> what's everyone's thought on https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/issues/211 ? I like case sensitivity, but the usernames are part of urls and I do hate caps in urls.
[20:20] <greg-g> snap-l: yeah, that test helped, the setting I saw wasn't the one I wanted
[20:21] <greg-g> rick_h_: username *login* case sensitive, but no case insensitive collisions, urls all lowercase
[20:22] <rick_h_> greg-g: k
[20:23] <greg-g> that's my preference
[20:23] <brousch> case insensitive everywhere
[20:30] <greg-g> ugh, this whole distraction made me delay this email I was writing. I just wanted to check my calendar for a date, and BAM, reassessment of my relationship with google
[20:31] <brousch> Google loves you. Never forget that.
[20:34] <greg-g> When I think of google I think of: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/overly-attached-girlfriend