[06:04] <Kilos> morning all
[06:18] <nuvolari> morning oom Kilos 
[06:18] <nuvolari> seems like the family is reunited
[06:18] <nuvolari> \o/
[06:40] <Kilos> ai!
[06:46] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday hows our girl?
[06:47] <maiatoday> hi Kilos, fine and you?
[06:47] <Kilos> fine ty maiatoday 
[06:48] <maiatoday> winter is coming :)
[06:50] <nuvolari> wt oom Kilos 
[06:50] <nuvolari> hallo bytjie
[06:50] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[06:50] <Kilos> vrek koud hier
[06:50] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[06:51] <Vince-0> hii
[06:51] <Kilos> pc started it auto rebootin tricks again this morning
[06:52] <Kilos> all i did was add the cover with the extra fan, grrr
[06:54] <maiatoday> hi nuvolari 
[06:55] <maiatoday> dis nie so koud hier nie maar mens kan voel die winter kom
[07:03] <charl> good morning
[07:03] <charl> Maaz_: coffee on
[07:03] <Kilos> hi charl 
[07:03]  * Maaz_ puts the kettle on
[07:03] <Kilos> good idea
[07:03] <Kilos> Maaz_, coffee please
[07:03] <Maaz_> Kilos: Righto
[07:03] <Kilos> Maaz_, large
[07:03] <Maaz_> In a beer mug just for you Kilos
[07:07] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[07:07] <Kilos> Maaz_, ty
[07:07] <Maaz_> You are welcome Kilos
[07:09] <charl> hi Kilos 
[07:09] <charl> i started to pick up some stability issues with kubuntu 13.04
[07:10] <charl> i have been picking up some really strange bugs in kde 4.10.2
[07:10] <charl> some weird and seemingly random behaviour - i had to restart both my desktop and laptop yesterday
[07:12] <Kilos> what do the logs say
[07:13] <Kilos> i dunno the commands, cat and or tail /var/log/syslog
[07:13] <Kilos> or are the others with same prob
[07:14] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[07:14] <charl> nothing in the logs that i could find
[07:14] <charl> not in the syslog in any case
[07:14] <charl> hi psyatw 
[07:14] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[07:14] <psyatw> hi cha
[07:14] <psyatw> charl*
[07:15] <Kilos> hehe psyatw dont your client do the tab  complete?
[07:19] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[07:19] <charl> by the way, i tried crunchbang yesterday - huge improvements in the last few years
[07:19] <charl> i am very impressed
[07:19] <Kilos> that quassel client lets you sneak in quietly
[07:20] <charl> quassel client?
[07:20] <charl> how does it let you "sneak in"
[07:20] <Kilos> ya some funny thing that lets him use his fone and other pcs from same place
[07:20] <Kilos> forget what its called
[07:21] <Kilos> sneak in = going off inactive without showing  here that he has joined
[07:21] <Kilos> off away or whatever
[07:21] <Kilos> magespawn, also does it
[07:23] <Kilos> i see this with everyone but them quassel peeps
[07:23] <Kilos> charl (~charl@2001:67c:2564:524:92b1:1cff:fe89:ae5) has joined #ubuntu-za
[07:23] <charl> oh no it's called a bnc
[07:23] <charl> an irc bouncer
[07:23] <Kilos> they show online but away and return from away silently
[07:24] <charl> quassel has one built-in
[07:24] <Kilos> ya bouncer thing
[07:24] <charl> i also sometimes do it by running irssi inside screen on a server and then just attaching and deattaching
[07:25] <charl> but i don't like doing it because i'm scared of connectivity issues that would cause me to repeatedly bounce on-and-off of irc
[07:25] <Kilos> ah
[07:25] <charl> and servers sometimes need to be restarted as well, after kernel upgrades for example
[07:26] <Kilos> dont you like proper irc clients
[07:26] <Kilos> try konversation
[07:26] <charl> what is a "proper" client :)
[07:26] <Kilos> i like
[07:26] <Kilos> quassel xchat and konversation
[07:26] <charl> nah those are all gui-based clients, i like terminal-based clients
[07:26] <Kilos> lol
[07:26] <charl> :)
[07:27] <charl> the nice thing about terminal-based tools is that i can run them everywhere - on a server, on my desktop, etc
[07:27] <charl> either via a local terminal or via ssh
[07:28] <Kilos> ah
[07:28] <charl> i sometimes use my desktop as a server as well, i stuck 16gb of ram into this thing so i can run a bunch of virtual machines simultaneously
[07:28] <charl> my desktop doubles as my development server
[07:28] <Kilos> nice
[07:29] <Kilos> and all on the 4 standard workspaces?
[07:30] <charl> i don't really use the workspaces feature, never have
[07:30] <Kilos> ouch
[07:30] <charl> i typically only have a couple of applications running - konsole, a browser (chromium-browser mostly) and vmware workstation
[07:31] <Kilos> looks like they were only put there for me
[07:31] <Kilos> use 10
[07:31] <charl> i have 2x 1080p displays on my desk but i rarely have more than three or four windows open at a time
[07:32] <charl> so i don't find it so useful personally
[07:32] <charl> actually i should say "windows", not "applications" because in konsole i could have multiple tabs with tons of stuff :)
[07:33] <Kilos> thats too involved for me
[07:33] <Kilos> use 1 workspace for each running app normally
[07:34] <charl> that's why i thought of moving to a tiling window manager but it takes some getting used to
[07:34] <Kilos> then got spare ones for other stuff
[07:34] <charl> workspaces is actually a brilliant feature
[07:34] <charl> even apple took it over in osx lion
[07:34] <Symmetria> heh I couldnt live without at least 3 monitors
[07:34] <Kilos> ya i live by them
[07:35] <Symmetria> especially now that Im doing photographic stuff
[07:35] <Kilos> hi Symmetria 
[07:35] <Symmetria> lightroom lets me put a photo up on one monitor for editing, while having it full screened on the other one
[07:35] <Symmetria> and as I edit on the one, it adjusts the one to "edited" version on the other
[07:35] <charl> Symmetria: do you have them vertically?
[07:35] <charl> if i would put three 1080p monitors right next to each other my neck would fall off :)
[07:36] <charl> horizontally i mean
[07:36] <Symmetria> 3 next to each other, 4th is wall mounted tv ;p
[07:36] <Symmetria> charl, the 2 on either side are tilted inwards at a slight angle, they all 27" screens 
[07:36] <Symmetria> (other than the 64" mounted on the wall)
[07:37] <Symmetria> suppose it very much depends what you doing though
[07:37] <charl> hmmm, the person from arbo actually complained about me using two monitors, he suggested i put one right in front of me and prefer looking at it face-on
[07:37] <Symmetria> I know a lot of people who would have zero use for 2 monitors, let alone the 4 Ive got hooked up
[07:38] <Symmetria> heh charl though even when Im working on 10 - 15 routers at a time
[07:38] <charl> not that i did it, i'm still in my 20s so i guess it doesn't bother me that much looking at a slight angle
[07:38] <Symmetria> and you got monitoring stuff running all over the place and you're changing one thats going to impact the rest
[07:38] <Symmetria> multiple screens is helpful
[07:38] <charl> yeah that i can understand, it's like when you look at pics of nocs
[07:38] <charl> screens all over the place with graphs and stuff
[07:39] <Symmetria> hell, even when you're editing quotes off pricelists, pricelist on one screen, large spreadsheet on the other
[07:39] <Symmetria> so many uses :)
[07:40] <Symmetria> heh these days the only thing I drop back to single screen for is on my notebook which I primariy use for tethered shooting
[07:41] <Kilos> hey Symmetria whats news from Fanie
[07:42] <Kilos> he most likely forgot us
[07:43] <Kilos> tell him we all nagging you so you get min time for photography
[07:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[07:44] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> how's things this morning?
[07:44] <superfly> hi Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy and the rest of you
[07:44] <Kilos> good ty and you
[07:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> can't complain thanks :)
[07:49] <sakhi> Morning
[07:49] <Kilos> hi sakhi 
[07:57] <psyatw> Kilos, it does, but it got ChanServ first :)
[07:58] <psyatw> hi Symmetria
[07:58] <psyatw> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[07:58] <Kilos> lol then keep tapping tab it eventually sorts it out
[07:58] <Kilos> hehe
[07:58] <psyatw> hi superfly
[07:58] <psyatw> haha
[07:59] <Kilos> ive also battled with that so now i put my finger by the tab key then look what it does
[07:59] <Kilos> haha
[07:59] <Kilos> my fingers cant learn what is where
[08:00] <Kilos> hi morgs
[08:00] <morgs> Hi Kilos
[08:00] <morgs> hi all
[08:00] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[08:02] <Kilos> môre inetpro 
[08:02] <inetpro> goeie more Kilos
[08:02] <Kilos> en die ander??
[08:02] <Kilos> ai!
[08:38] <fender> yo oom
[08:38] <Kilos> yo fender 
[08:38] <fender> bleery network
[08:38] <Kilos> yeah
[09:41] <superfly> Name used to be Bumper, had to change it to Fender when I came into the country.
[09:54] <Kilos> lol
[09:54] <charl> ???
[09:58] <superfly> I misquoted it... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0358082/quotes?item=qt0267520
[10:21] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[11:06] <Kilos> hi HawkiesZA 
[11:06] <HawkiesZA> Howdy
[11:17]  * Kilos needs cantide
[11:17] <Kilos> dont understand korean
[11:31] <HawkiesZA> Google translate?
[11:32] <Kilos> lol
[11:32] <Kilos> i found an english button
[12:25] <Kilos> aw we splitting again today
[12:51] <Squirm> afternoon
[12:51] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[13:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> https://www.google.com/search?q=atari+breakout&tbm=isch
[13:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> beep boop beep beep boop!
[13:39] <HawkiesZA> Oh, the memories
[13:42] <Squirm> yeah
[13:42] <Squirm> I saw that this morning
[13:45] <HawkiesZA> Google should remake Contra
[13:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> omw imagine!
[13:47] <HawkiesZA> I'd get fired
[13:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> there's always MAME
[13:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> but don't let's get started down that road...
[13:52] <HawkiesZA> Dangerous road
[13:52] <HawkiesZA> Fun road....
[13:57] <Squirm> you guys are showing your age now
[13:59] <HawkiesZA> Contra was '87, so we only saw it in the '90s probably
[13:59] <HawkiesZA> And it stayed awesome for years
[14:01] <Squirm> like I said
[14:01] <Squirm> you guys are showing your age now
[14:02] <HawkiesZA> Also, I refuse to admit that I'm old
[14:02] <HawkiesZA> I'm in my mid-20s, dangit!
[14:02] <Kilos> rofl
[14:02] <Squirm> heh
[14:02] <Squirm> HawkiesZA: 28?
[14:02] <HawkiesZA> 25
[14:02] <Squirm> not mid, late
[14:02] <Squirm> :P
[14:02] <HawkiesZA> I'm from '88
[14:02] <Squirm> meh, fine. I can't call you old
[14:03] <HawkiesZA> :P
[14:03] <HawkiesZA> We skipped the Megadrive and just carried on playing awesome games :P
[14:18] <magespawn> afternoon all
[14:19] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[14:53] <Kilos-> im  sure well get it sooner or later
[14:54] <Kilos-> 8ta foned and said they busy upgrading
[14:54] <Kilos-> hehe
[14:57] <Kilos-> from 6 months to a year
[14:57] <Kilos-> same as email reply
[14:57] <Kilos-> but on the fone one can rev them some
[14:57] <Kilos-> wow 41 nicks here
[14:57] <Kilos-> yay
[15:03] <charl> cool atari breakout google easter egg
[15:15] <Kilos-> yo drussell all good?
[15:32] <drussell> Kilos-: yup, all good, you?
[15:33] <Kilos-> good ty drussell 
[16:08] <Kilos-> hey clever guys can one get the source code from a linux package
[16:08] <Kilos-> cant find what i need online
[16:08] <Kilos-> not ubuntu other linux thing
[18:03]  * Trixar_za shakes head
[18:04] <Trixar_za> Most people that went over to Linux tend to be experts with Windows too
[18:04] <Trixar_za> I feel somewhat insulted by this job post
[18:06] <Kilos> lol
[18:11] <Symmetria> heh
[18:11] <Symmetria> I'd say thats a compliment not an insult
[18:11] <Symmetria> it means that the windows experts werent happy and moved ;p
[18:11] <Symmetria> though I also have to point out, that "windows expert" could mean anything, windows servers vs windows desktops are vastly different beasts
[18:20] <Trixar_za> Not by much these days
[18:24] <Trixar_za> In my case, I tend to push the OS I'm using to the limit
[18:24] <Trixar_za> Like shrinking with a uninstaller app Xplite :P
[18:24] <Trixar_za> like*
[19:15] <inetpro> good evening
[19:16] <inetpro> oh and hello Kilos
[19:16] <Kilos> evening inetpro 
[19:20] <inetpro> Kilos: hoe gaan dit?
[19:20] <Kilos> lewe dankie inetpro en self?
[19:20] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:20]  * inetpro is moeg
[19:20] <Kilos> naby aan slaap tyd. kop nie te lekker nie
[19:21] <Kilos> ai
[19:21] <inetpro> het te veel goed versamel oor die jare
[19:21] <inetpro> vandag begin pak
[19:21] <inetpro> ons trek Vrydag na ons nuwe gebou
[19:22] <Kilos> ai!
[19:23] <inetpro> die ou wat 'n drukker (printer) uitgevind het moet verban word
[19:23] <Kilos> lol
[19:24] <inetpro> het vandag pakke en pakke stapels papiere weggegooi
[19:24] <inetpro> en stapels*
[19:25] <Kilos> lol
[19:25] <Kilos> jy moet stuur na recycle mense
[19:26] <inetpro> selfs so vêr as van 23 jaar gelede
[19:26] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:27] <inetpro> ja dit gaan vir recycling
[19:27] <Kilos> a
[19:28] <inetpro> het goed gekry wat ek gehou het van 1990 toe ek begin werk het
[19:28] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:28] <inetpro> al my memories nou verwoes
[19:28] <Kilos> lol
[19:32] <Kilos> maar nou begin jy met skoon plek anderkant
[19:34] <Kilos> 22 jare se goed
[19:34] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:39] <inetpro> ja gaan baie lekker wees om op 'n skoon bladsy te begin
[19:40] <inetpro> ek was darem nie vir die hele 22 jaar by daai een plek nie... maar meeste van die jare wel
[19:40] <inetpro> was ook so bietje buitekant vir 'n paar jare
[19:42] <Kilos> a
[19:45] <inetpro> Kilos: hoe gaan dit met die skape?
[19:45] <Kilos> nog goed dankie inetpro nog bietjie groen gras oor
[19:45] <Kilos> en daar met die hoenders?
[19:46] <inetpro> vanoggend 'n nuwe broeisel van 6 kuikens gekry
[19:46] <inetpro> een van die nuwe basters het uitgebroei
[19:47] <Kilos> baster met?
[19:47] <Kilos> groot en kapokkies
[19:47] <inetpro> lyk amper soos die potchestroom koekoek
[19:47] <inetpro> lekker groterig
[19:48] <inetpro> hoop om 'n paar van hulle aan te teel vir eie gebruik
[19:49] <Kilos> ja
[19:50] <inetpro> die henne moet eiers lê en broei en die hane kom in die pot
[19:51] <inetpro> wil eintlik hê die bantams moet help uitbroei
[19:51] <inetpro> wel, wou eintlik dit gehad het
[19:51] <inetpro> nou net nog ene oor
[19:52] <Kilos> jy sal sien hoe lekker broei henne maak die basters
[19:53] <inetpro> hoop maar die bojaan bly weg van hulle af
[19:53] <Kilos> lol
[20:06] <inetpro> ai!
[20:06] <Kilos> ai!
[20:08] <Kilos> night inetpro and others. sleep tight
[20:08] <inetpro> lekker slaap oom
[20:08] <Kilos> dankie julle ook
[22:11] <zeref_> lfjdk;fjsd