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micahgI'd advise against Chromium by default until the security support is properly worked out00:15
micahgLen-nb: I've seen a similar bug fixed already, do you have an Ubuntu bug filed with reproducer?00:17
Len-nbmicahg, Bug? I am wondering If I mentioned a bug. I was reading the notes on the UDS schedule and commenting about some things. One of the things was that of replacing FF with chromium in vanilla00:23
Len-nbif I'm not mistaken00:23
micahg[17:57] <Len-nb> I have a long standing bug with FF where it gets local dates wrong in some JS files.00:23
micahgoh, ubuntu's planning the replacement, we'll considering they still can't get Chromium updates out in a reasonable time frame, they have the same hurdle they had 3 years ago when the same thing was proposed00:24
micahgs/we'll/well/00:24
kubotumicahg meant: "oh, ubuntu's planning the replacement, well considering they still can't get Chromium updates out in a reasonable time frame, they have the same hurdle they had 3 years ago when the same thing was proposed"00:24
Len-nbAh, that one. I can check if it is still there. I am not as active in the forum that it showed in as I was.00:25
Len-nbIf the FF bug was fixed in the 13.04 iso plus updates then it is still there00:28
Len-nbIn all other browsers the dates are correct, but in FF the year is right, but the month is the year and the day is the month.00:29
Len-nbthis seems to be a java script problem of some sort.00:30
Len-nbThey try to take their system time and correct to mine with a bit of JS00:30
Len-nbI am assuming they don't convert the year.00:31
* Len-nb wanders off to eat00:32
micahgLen-nb: ISTR discussing this with you or someone else before00:34
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zequencehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZiFZ49owK401:13
zequenceSomeone does a video review on 13.04 Beta 101:14
zequenceThat guy clearly doesn't do audio much01:18
zequenceHe tries to open a jack app, which requires jack to be running in order for it to open01:19
zequence..which, one would expect to work even so01:19
zequenceAt least, one would expect to get a error message about jack not running01:19
zequenceA new user simply makes the conclusing that this app isn't working01:20
zequenceThat's something we could try implement upstream actually01:21
zequenceOr, try to get people to implement upstream, unless someone of us would like to add some code themselves :)01:21
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zequenceI added a workitem for it. At the very least, we could add wrapper scripts for those applications01:28
zequencebtw, Youtube autogenerates channels for popular topics, such as Ubuntu Studio http://www.youtube.com/channel/HCkGK6Zv5-b0I01:34
zequenceWe really should start a channel ourselves01:34
micahgLen-nb: settings uploaded02:10
Len-nbmicahg, thankyou02:24
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DarkErao/12:28
smartboyhwHi DarkEra12:30
DarkEraheya smartboyhw :)12:31
smartboyhw_len-1304: Len-nb: zequence: We might want Chromium as our default browser, there is going to be a UDS session about it.13:13
smartboyhw_Hey ttoine!13:55
ttoinehello13:56
ttoinewhat's up ?13:56
len-1304smartboyhw_, micah says chromium is not ready anyway.13:58
smartboyhw_len-1304: OK14:00
smartboyhw_ttoine: How's the merchandise going on?14:00
ttoinewaiting for the artwork, actualy14:06
smartboyhw_ttoine: Oh.14:07
DarkEraDoh... laptop not showing grub scared the hell out of me, just a blinking cursor.... until i noticed i forgot to power off the external hard drive.... ---> Fail16:01
DarkEraheya zequence 17:07
zequenceDarkEra: Hi17:08
DarkErahow are you doing buddy?17:08
zequenceDarkEra: Are you following the UDS at all? I'm finding very few subjects that I want to get involved in myself17:08
zequenceTodays schedule http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/2013-05-14/17:09
DarkEraactually i didn't have time to look at that, thanks for the link17:11
DarkErazequence, has it started already?17:12
zequenceDarkEra: Yes. It'll be on until 20:00 UTC this day, and then Wed and Thursday as well, each beginning from around 16.00 UTC, I think17:14
zequenceDarkEra: Overview http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/17:14
zequenceDarkEra: Right now, about QA http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21714/community-s-quality-coverage/17:14
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DarkEraconfusing.. oh well, maybe better tomorrow17:53
zequenceDarkEra: There's a break now, actually17:56
zequenceI didn't realize that session had already ended17:57
zequenceDarkEra: This might be interesting to you http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21716/community-s-quality-userstory/17:57
zequenceStarts in a few minutes17:57
DarkErayeah, i noticed Lunch somewhere in the schedule :D17:58
DarkEraok i'll keep a eye on it.17:58
DarkErawas interesting to follow, maybe next time, when i gained some more experience and know my way around, i might jump in.19:14
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Len-nbzequence, there was something on kernels... something about the next version having a new "hw stack". IDK how that would affect us.21:05
Len-nbUDS is all during my work schedule. So I won't get any of it.21:05
zequenceLen-nb: The videos are up so, it's possible to see them afterwards. And, I guess interaction can be done later on mail lists or wherever, on IRC21:06
zequenceI mean, the videos are recorded, and you can still see them after broadcast21:06
zequenceLen-nb: I missed the notion on new hw stack21:07
Len-nbI am guessing the the changes in the kernel are from upstream anyway. I wonder how these things will affect audio21:07
Len-nbThat was about the only thing I saw that might affect us21:07
zequenceProbably more targeted towards video, because of the move to MIR, if I would take a guess21:08
zequencebut, I suppose it would be good to find out21:08
Len-nbUbuntu tends to use pretty close to stock kernels I think, so if the way HW is done is changed I would think it would be from upstream.21:09
Len-nbXorg is headed some new ways as well.21:10
zequenceA bit OT, but valve is releasing all its games for the Linux steam client, bit by bit. I'm not seeing a massive move towards Linux in the game world yet, but it feels like a big deal the way Valve/Steam is targetting Linux right now21:16
zequenceThat's absolutely a big game changer for a lot of the main stream user base, who often keep Windows only for the sake of gaming21:17
zequenceWould be cool if the audio world could see a change like that too21:17
zequenceNot that I'm for proprietary software, but if you can get one foot in, it's easier to get the other one in as well21:18
zequenceIf Pro Tools were supporting Linux, and some other major applications, the free software would also get more focus21:18
zequenceAnd the free technologies21:18

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