[00:15] <micahg> I'd advise against Chromium by default until the security support is properly worked out
[00:17] <micahg> Len-nb: I've seen a similar bug fixed already, do you have an Ubuntu bug filed with reproducer?
[00:23] <Len-nb> micahg, Bug? I am wondering If I mentioned a bug. I was reading the notes on the UDS schedule and commenting about some things. One of the things was that of replacing FF with chromium in vanilla
[00:23] <Len-nb> if I'm not mistaken
[00:23] <micahg> [17:57] <Len-nb> I have a long standing bug with FF where it gets local dates wrong in some JS files.
[00:24] <micahg> oh, ubuntu's planning the replacement, we'll considering they still can't get Chromium updates out in a reasonable time frame, they have the same hurdle they had 3 years ago when the same thing was proposed
[00:24] <micahg> s/we'll/well/
[00:24] <kubotu> micahg meant: "oh, ubuntu's planning the replacement, well considering they still can't get Chromium updates out in a reasonable time frame, they have the same hurdle they had 3 years ago when the same thing was proposed"
[00:25] <Len-nb> Ah, that one. I can check if it is still there. I am not as active in the forum that it showed in as I was.
[00:28] <Len-nb> If the FF bug was fixed in the 13.04 iso plus updates then it is still there
[00:29] <Len-nb> In all other browsers the dates are correct, but in FF the year is right, but the month is the year and the day is the month.
[00:30] <Len-nb> this seems to be a java script problem of some sort.
[00:30] <Len-nb> They try to take their system time and correct to mine with a bit of JS
[00:31] <Len-nb> I am assuming they don't convert the year.
[00:32]  * Len-nb wanders off to eat
[00:34] <micahg> Len-nb: ISTR discussing this with you or someone else before
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[01:13] <zequence> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZiFZ49owK4
[01:14] <zequence> Someone does a video review on 13.04 Beta 1
[01:18] <zequence> That guy clearly doesn't do audio much
[01:19] <zequence> He tries to open a jack app, which requires jack to be running in order for it to open
[01:19] <zequence> ..which, one would expect to work even so
[01:19] <zequence> At least, one would expect to get a error message about jack not running
[01:20] <zequence> A new user simply makes the conclusing that this app isn't working
[01:21] <zequence> That's something we could try implement upstream actually
[01:21] <zequence> Or, try to get people to implement upstream, unless someone of us would like to add some code themselves :)
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[01:28] <zequence> I added a workitem for it. At the very least, we could add wrapper scripts for those applications
[01:34] <zequence> btw, Youtube autogenerates channels for popular topics, such as Ubuntu Studio http://www.youtube.com/channel/HCkGK6Zv5-b0I
[01:34] <zequence> We really should start a channel ourselves
[02:10] <micahg> Len-nb: settings uploaded
[02:24] <Len-nb> micahg, thankyou
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[12:28] <DarkEra> o/
[12:30] <smartboyhw> Hi DarkEra
[12:31] <DarkEra> heya smartboyhw :)
[13:13] <smartboyhw_> len-1304: Len-nb: zequence: We might want Chromium as our default browser, there is going to be a UDS session about it.
[13:55] <smartboyhw_> Hey ttoine!
[13:56] <ttoine> hello
[13:56] <ttoine> what's up ?
[13:58] <len-1304> smartboyhw_, micah says chromium is not ready anyway.
[14:00] <smartboyhw_> len-1304: OK
[14:00] <smartboyhw_> ttoine: How's the merchandise going on?
[14:06] <ttoine> waiting for the artwork, actualy
[14:07] <smartboyhw_> ttoine: Oh.
[16:01] <DarkEra> Doh... laptop not showing grub scared the hell out of me, just a blinking cursor.... until i noticed i forgot to power off the external hard drive.... ---> Fail
[17:07] <DarkEra> heya zequence 
[17:08] <zequence> DarkEra: Hi
[17:08] <DarkEra> how are you doing buddy?
[17:08] <zequence> DarkEra: Are you following the UDS at all? I'm finding very few subjects that I want to get involved in myself
[17:09] <zequence> Todays schedule http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/2013-05-14/
[17:11] <DarkEra> actually i didn't have time to look at that, thanks for the link
[17:12] <DarkEra> zequence, has it started already?
[17:14] <zequence> DarkEra: Yes. It'll be on until 20:00 UTC this day, and then Wed and Thursday as well, each beginning from around 16.00 UTC, I think
[17:14] <zequence> DarkEra: Overview http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/
[17:14] <zequence> DarkEra: Right now, about QA http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21714/community-s-quality-coverage/
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[17:53] <DarkEra> confusing.. oh well, maybe better tomorrow
[17:56] <zequence> DarkEra: There's a break now, actually
[17:57] <zequence> I didn't realize that session had already ended
[17:57] <zequence> DarkEra: This might be interesting to you http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21716/community-s-quality-userstory/
[17:57] <zequence> Starts in a few minutes
[17:58] <DarkEra> yeah, i noticed Lunch somewhere in the schedule :D
[17:58] <DarkEra> ok i'll keep a eye on it.
[19:14] <DarkEra> was interesting to follow, maybe next time, when i gained some more experience and know my way around, i might jump in.
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[21:05] <Len-nb> zequence, there was something on kernels... something about the next version having a new "hw stack". IDK how that would affect us.
[21:05] <Len-nb> UDS is all during my work schedule. So I won't get any of it.
[21:06] <zequence> Len-nb: The videos are up so, it's possible to see them afterwards. And, I guess interaction can be done later on mail lists or wherever, on IRC
[21:06] <zequence> I mean, the videos are recorded, and you can still see them after broadcast
[21:07] <zequence> Len-nb: I missed the notion on new hw stack
[21:07] <Len-nb> I am guessing the the changes in the kernel are from upstream anyway. I wonder how these things will affect audio
[21:07] <Len-nb> That was about the only thing I saw that might affect us
[21:08] <zequence> Probably more targeted towards video, because of the move to MIR, if I would take a guess
[21:08] <zequence> but, I suppose it would be good to find out
[21:09] <Len-nb> Ubuntu tends to use pretty close to stock kernels I think, so if the way HW is done is changed I would think it would be from upstream.
[21:10] <Len-nb> Xorg is headed some new ways as well.
[21:16] <zequence> A bit OT, but valve is releasing all its games for the Linux steam client, bit by bit. I'm not seeing a massive move towards Linux in the game world yet, but it feels like a big deal the way Valve/Steam is targetting Linux right now
[21:17] <zequence> That's absolutely a big game changer for a lot of the main stream user base, who often keep Windows only for the sake of gaming
[21:17] <zequence> Would be cool if the audio world could see a change like that too
[21:18] <zequence> Not that I'm for proprietary software, but if you can get one foot in, it's easier to get the other one in as well
[21:18] <zequence> If Pro Tools were supporting Linux, and some other major applications, the free software would also get more focus
[21:18] <zequence> And the free technologies