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| elfy | well I got laptop with mic - whether it works or not is another thing altogether | 17:09 |
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| pleia2 | I can't find the xubuntu sessions on the schedule, what am I doing wrong? :) | 17:19 |
| elfy | not reading the mail that says they've been removed :) | 17:19 |
| pleia2 | x_x | 17:20 |
| elfy | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-May/008901.html | 17:20 |
| elfy | try that one :) | 17:20 |
| elfy | doing it ourselves | 17:20 |
| pleia2 | I see | 17:20 |
| elfy | well - I installed what I thought was 13.04 on a laptop but was actually 13.10 ... | 17:53 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Haha! Testing already then! | 18:46 |
| elfy | :) | 18:46 |
| GridCube | where will the meeting be held? | 19:25 |
| knome | G+ | 19:26 |
| knome | and this channel | 19:26 |
| GridCube | will the video be streamed outside the g+? | 19:28 |
| GridCube | :) | 19:28 |
| knome | we will need to look at that. | 19:28 |
| GridCube | P: i dont have any sound anyway so never mind for me side | 19:29 |
| lderan | could stream the window to something like twitch.tv | 19:29 |
| knome | i would imagine it's not too hard to stream to youtube from G+, they are both google products.. | 19:29 |
| GridCube | i've seen that done a few times | 19:31 |
| knome | yeah | 19:31 |
| knome | You don't need special software to record your conversation. Every Hangout On Air is automatically saved to your YouTube account. | 19:31 |
| lderan | ah thats cool | 19:32 |
| knome | we just need to make it "on air" | 19:32 |
| knome | overtime. | 19:33 |
| knome | be back shortly | 19:33 |
| knome | \o/ | 19:34 |
| knome | finland wins | 19:34 |
| lderan | huzzah | 19:35 |
| knome | yay | 19:35 |
| knome | also won the group stage | 19:35 |
| elfy | that'll be good then :) | 19:38 |
| knome | yeah, will be facing slovaks again next | 19:39 |
| knome | does somebody have a verified youtube account? | 19:41 |
| elfy | what does that mean? | 19:42 |
| elfy | oh nvm - not even reading properly | 19:42 |
| knome | i suppose you both need to have a youtube account and have verified it with an SMS | 19:42 |
| knome | "on air" requires one | 19:42 |
| elfy | read youtube as google ... | 19:42 |
| knome | in most cases, you can... | 19:42 |
| elfy | I've done it, it seems | 19:45 |
| elfy | you can just use the google account to do it | 19:45 |
| knome | mhm, i suppose, as long as it is verified | 19:46 |
| knome | i get the option, but when i enable it, it tells me i need to verify... | 19:46 |
| knome | somebody who has done that should start the hangout then | 19:46 |
| elfy | yea - I did - sent it to the phone | 19:46 |
| knome | cool | 19:46 |
| elfy | not sure it'd be a good idea to do it from here though - interwebs can be dodgy | 19:47 |
| knome | mmh, let's see if other people have such setups as well | 19:47 |
| knome | so who's here for the first night of xubuntu? | 19:47 |
| elfy | I am - with voice if it works if not without :) | 19:48 |
| * drc would rather be at The Proms :) | 19:48 | |
| lderan | i dont know how much i would be able to contribute :P | 19:49 |
| knome | lderan, doesn't matter | 19:49 |
| elfy | indeed not lderan - the first bit looks like gobbledygook to me :) | 19:49 |
| lderan | sounds good to me :P | 19:50 |
| Noskcaj | hello | 19:50 |
| elfy | hi Noskcaj | 19:50 |
| lderan | Hellos | 19:51 |
| knome | pleia2, ochosi | 19:53 |
| pleia2 | knome | 19:53 |
| knome | <3 | 19:53 |
| knome | Unit193, | 19:53 |
| knome | pleia2, do you have a verified youtube account? | 19:53 |
| knome | pleia2, and can you make the meeting in whole? | 19:53 |
| pleia2 | I have no idea | 19:53 |
| knome | haha. have you send an SMS to google? | 19:53 |
| knome | (or are you willing to) | 19:54 |
| knome | i'm not sure if i want to 1) enable the youtube side 2) send an SMS to google | 19:54 |
| elfy | google to send you one ... | 19:54 |
| knome | oh. | 19:54 |
| knome | then i don't want to send them my phone number | 19:54 |
| elfy | :) | 19:54 |
| knome | whatever it is they ask me to do, i don't want to do it! | 19:55 |
| knome | except if it involves me getting money | 19:55 |
| lderan | it takes a min or 2 for it to start streaming by the looks of it | 19:55 |
| knome | lderan, that's fine as long as we can record it :) | 19:55 |
| knome | so people who want to join the hangout and probably say things, tell us your google names or email addresses | 19:56 |
| elfy | elfyesq@gmail.com | 19:56 |
| Noskcaj | noskcaj@ubuntu.com or doak.jackson@gmail.com | 19:56 |
| lderan | beetyrootey@gmail.com | 19:57 |
| * pleia2 @gmail.com | 19:58 | |
| knome | hihi | 19:58 |
| knome | <- pasi@shimmerproject.org | 19:58 |
| knome | pleia2, so.. can you make the whole session? | 19:58 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 19:58 |
| knome | wooo | 19:58 |
| elfy | cool | 19:59 |
| pleia2 | except for when my grocery delivery arrives | 19:59 |
| pleia2 | :) | 19:59 |
| knome | i'm thinking whether we should take meetingology notes | 19:59 |
| pleia2 | but just like 5 minutes for that | 19:59 |
| knome | pleia2, that's fine, you can grab it | 19:59 |
| knome | pleia2, and we can look you eating | 19:59 |
| knome | :) | 19:59 |
| elfy | as long as you have cake | 19:59 |
| knome | the cake is a lie | 19:59 |
| elfy | knome: meetingology might be good | 19:59 |
| pleia2 | lunch is after session ;) | 19:59 |
| knome | pleia2, so... what about that verified yt account? | 19:59 |
| knome | pleia2, if you have it, i think it would be best if you created the hangout | 20:00 |
| pleia2 | I don't even know what that is | 20:00 |
| knome | pleia2, you need to send google your phone num | 20:00 |
| knome | pleia2, then insert the code you get to some input box | 20:00 |
| knome | and ta-dah! | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | knome | 20:00 |
| knome | pleia2, then you can stream the hangout to your youtube account | 20:00 |
| knome | Unit193, woo :) | 20:00 |
| pleia2 | k, let me try | 20:01 |
| knome | pleia2 <3 | 20:01 |
| knome | it's been so.. empty without you here in the xubuntu universe | 20:01 |
| knome | i'm not saying you're fat! | 20:01 |
| knome | (you're not!) | 20:01 |
| pleia2 | ok, it's verified | 20:02 |
| pleia2 | hahaha :P | 20:02 |
| knome | nice | 20:02 |
| pleia2 | so I start the hangout and invite you all? | 20:02 |
| knome | now can you initiate a hangout with the email addresses above? :) | 20:02 |
| knome | yup | 20:02 |
| Unit193 | I'm all hot and sweaty, so don't want to see me dripping right now. :P | 20:02 |
| knome | Unit193 <3 | 20:03 |
| Unit193 | Also, I may not be here long, sadly. | 20:03 |
| knome | pleia2, invite Unit193 disregarding what he says. | 20:04 |
| Noskcaj | i may have issues talking because it's 6am and everyone else is asleep, as i have no webcam and a mic hanging from my ear | 20:04 |
| knome | heh | 20:04 |
| elfy | Noskcaj: don't wake people up - I know what I'd say and everyone in the hangout would hear it :) | 20:05 |
| knome | heh | 20:05 |
| knome | elfy, does that concern me as well? (23 here...) | 20:05 |
| knome | (or 11pm) | 20:06 |
| elfy | yep - I'd shout at you as well :p | 20:06 |
| knome | you're not my mum! | 20:06 |
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| elfy | as my lad knows only too well ... | 20:06 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Me too I'm sure, it's 1606 here. | 20:06 |
| pleia2 | ok, it invited a bunch of people | 20:06 |
| knome | pleia2, just paste the link here | 20:06 |
| knome | pleia2, that should allow people to join | 20:06 |
| pleia2 | http://youtu.be/lDZiuOmt-6Y | 20:06 |
| knome | because at least i can't see an invite.. | 20:06 |
| pleia2 | oh, other link | 20:07 |
| knome | hehe | 20:07 |
| knome | yeah.. | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | I don't know how to use this stupid thing | 20:07 |
| knome | but that's good as well | 20:07 |
| knome | just paste the url from the hangout window | 20:07 |
| * knome gets a sheet of paper for the mouse | 20:07 | |
| pleia2 | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/c59caae1bd65acf7efbdf323a2c2e0b552989670?authuser=1&hl=en | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | I'll hit start broadcast when we're all ready | 20:08 |
| * drc misses the old TV test patterns :) | 20:08 | |
| pleia2 | no knome voicey | 20:08 |
| knome | bling! | 20:09 |
| knome | nice doorbell | 20:09 |
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| === lsdma_ is now known as mutzs | ||
| pleia2 | broadcast should be at that youtube link now | 20:10 |
| knome | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/xubuntu-desktop/+spec/client-xubuntu-1305-dev | 20:12 |
| knome | elfy, you there? | 20:14 |
| pleia2 | elfy: milestone releases topic | 20:14 |
| elfy | yea - no mic though | 20:14 |
| elfy | so you'll have to read me :) | 20:15 |
| knome | i am reading | 20:15 |
| elfy | that makes sense to me | 20:15 |
| elfy | yea - we need a plan - obviously we have the release dates - whether we want to do them all or not | 20:16 |
| elfy | which I guess we can discuss now | 20:16 |
| elfy | is it easier if I chat in the google window ? | 20:16 |
| knome | elfy, not really | 20:16 |
| elfy | k | 20:16 |
| elfy | well I'd be inclined to say do as many as we can - be more likelihood of getting people to do some then | 20:17 |
| Unit193 | knome: Yeah, pcman seems to be doing it pretty much himself. :P They are teaming up with razor-qt in areas. | 20:19 |
| GridCube | are you using meetingology ? | 20:24 |
| pleia2 | no | 20:24 |
| knome | GridCube, see the youtube link | 20:25 |
| Unit193 | Than there are the Ubuntu tools. What used to be jockey, ubuntu one, etc. | 20:25 |
| GridCube | yes, i saw it, but i dont have sound | 20:25 |
| GridCube | so its pretty pointles | 20:25 |
| GridCube | sorry 'bout that | 20:26 |
| Unit193 | I couldn't get the question. | 20:36 |
| Unit193 | Mainbuntu is going with Mallard, Lubuntu may well go with it, don't know what K uses. | 20:36 |
| GridCube | what do we use? just wikified text? | 20:38 |
| Unit193 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/ ? | 20:38 |
| Unit193 | GridCube: Docbook. | 20:38 |
| elfy | I can join in that - reviewing at least | 20:39 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, I've noticed a few problems. | 20:39 |
| Unit193 | I'd like an option it it's config for fade or effects, but seems like it could be handy. | 20:50 |
| Unit193 | I need to leave, I generally like it, but however. | 20:55 |
| elfy | thanks | 20:57 |
| knome | ta | 20:58 |
| pleia2 | cool, youtube video is up immediately | 20:59 |
| pleia2 | (same link as before) | 20:59 |
| elfy | excellent | 20:59 |
| knome | pleia2, yeah! | 20:59 |
| lderan | ooo cool | 20:59 |
| elfy | is there a uds meeting tomorrow that will have a bearing on which alpha/beta we want to test for? | 21:02 |
| knome | elfy, we can decide ourself which alphas/betas we opt-in | 21:03 |
| knome | i mean the biggest question is when is xfce 4.12 released | 21:03 |
| elfy | I thought we were going to do that today lol - but yea - I want to get cracking on trying to get interest in testing if I can | 21:03 |
| knome | well, yeah. | 21:04 |
| knome | we can decide something today | 21:04 |
| elfy | I'd 'imagined' a main mail - this is the plan, followed up with regular - 'this is coming up' 'we'd really like this app tested' things | 21:04 |
| elfy | cool - that'd be useful | 21:05 |
| knome | i'm leaning towards alpha 2 or 3, but i'm fine with 1 as well. | 21:05 |
| elfy | just looking at the schedule | 21:05 |
| knome | skellat noted that he'd like alpha 2 | 21:06 |
| knome | i mean, that's pretty nice schedule-wise | 21:06 |
| elfy | 1 is a month away - so I'd assume there'd be a need - we can always backpedal a touch - and not remind when 1 is near | 21:06 |
| knome | i agree with him that it leaves us good breathing space before the beta to fix bugs and stuff | 21:06 |
| knome | the current state of the testing team isn't so good though | 21:07 |
| elfy | nope | 21:07 |
| knome | i'm just worried that we might not have enough testers to make it worth the while | 21:07 |
| knome | ochosi, you still around? | 21:07 |
| mutzs | I'd like to help on the testing side | 21:07 |
| knome | mutzs, awesome! | 21:07 |
| elfy | mutzs: cool | 21:07 |
| elfy | knome: I'm going to talk to one of the FC admins - he's quite heavily involved in the forum +1 area - see if we can drum up some interest there | 21:08 |
| mutzs | i did some tests for the last Cycle and think it's the right thing for me | 21:08 |
| knome | elfy, nice | 21:08 |
| elfy | well we will have at least one extra - I'm here after being missing | 21:09 |
| elfy | and every post I make there links to xubuntu/development - so every little helps | 21:09 |
| elfy | wb Noskcaj | 21:09 |
| elfy | knome: I'll get a main mail out tomorrow then re testing | 21:10 |
| knome | elfy, great | 21:10 |
| elfy | both lists | 21:11 |
| elfy | possibly a good starting point with the other admin would be a 'flavour' based sticky - most of the talk in there is ubuntu - I'm sure the others would like some limelight too | 21:12 |
| elfy | I'll try and get hold of the various other QA leads re that - but obviously I'm more interested in getting people to test for us :) | 21:13 |
| knome | :) | 21:14 |
| * elfy has to have a fair head on over there :p | 21:14 | |
| elfy | Noskcaj: I'll try and catch up with you on all this tomorrow - but I'm about to crash for the night now | 21:15 |
| lderan | good night elfy | 21:16 |
| knome | nighty elfy and thanks :) | 21:16 |
| elfy | old man in the corner snoring :p | 21:16 |
| elfy | night all | 21:16 |
| Noskcaj | elfy, thanks, and good night | 21:16 |
| Noskcaj | what happened in my absence? | 21:18 |
| knome | to all participants, does this look accurate: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5665789/ ? | 21:18 |
| lderan | yup | 21:19 |
| pleia2 | yep | 21:22 |
| * skellat states in the words of http://identi.ca/x11r5: "i r back" | 21:23 | |
| knome | lderan, pleia2: ta :) | 21:23 |
| knome | will send an email to the list with that shortly | 21:23 |
| knome | skellat, we were able to cover pretty much half or even more of the agenda for all three blueprints | 21:24 |
| skellat | :-) | 21:24 |
| knome | i think we had beat the dev and milestone pretty much dead before the meeting already | 21:25 |
| skellat | Which alpha, if any, are we doing? | 21:25 |
| knome | that's still unclear; depends on xfce 4.12 schedule | 21:25 |
| knome | but we "decided" to have one | 21:25 |
| knome | i mean... as offical as that gets with the project and testing leads :) | 21:26 |
| skellat | Cool. We'll probably need to ping Colin Watson & Adam Conrad prior to that session tomorrow. | 21:26 |
| knome | for what? :) | 21:27 |
| skellat | Let them know our intentions | 21:27 |
| skellat | Though, then again, that's what that session is for come to think of it | 21:27 |
| knome | i though the *session* was for that discussion | 21:27 |
| knome | and not even that really | 21:27 |
| knome | that was just to set some ideas and set a date when we need to "decide" if it's anything like the last UDS | 21:27 |
| skellat | Yeah. It gets weird when you have a UDS session with no blueprint. | 21:27 |
| knome | decide in quotes because during R, you could opt-out of something you had said you would opt-in, and the other way around | 21:28 |
| knome | even if people said "it's set in stone, you need to know now" | 21:28 |
| skellat | Yep | 21:29 |
| knome | but two betas it is | 21:29 |
| skellat | Which is great | 21:29 |
| knome | as long as we have testers with motivation that extends to all milestones, i'm ok with even all alphas. | 21:29 |
| skellat | That goes to elfy and noskcaj to come up with | 21:30 |
| skellat | And I take it from the paste we've got docs fun coming up too | 21:30 |
| knome | yup | 21:31 |
| knome | the other thing i discussed with ochosi was to try to get the team test xubuntu too | 21:31 |
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| skellat | All in all, how did you think the G+ session went? | 21:34 |
| knome | a bit slow at the start, but it got better | 21:37 |
| knome | at latest when ochosi joined in | 21:37 |
| knome | ;) | 21:37 |
| skellat | I look forward to reviewing the video in a bit | 21:41 |
| skellat | What's the agenda for night two then? | 21:41 |
| knome | continue on subjects that were left partly open and start discussing on the ones that we didn't cover yet :) | 21:42 |
| skellat | Excellent. | 21:42 |
| skellat | At least I should be there for night two | 21:42 |
| knome | you can also check the paste.ubuntu.com link to have a quicker recap | 21:43 |
| skellat | It'll be nice to put faces to the IRC nicks | 21:43 |
| knome | sure :) | 21:44 |
| lderan | i didn't do much besides nodding :P | 21:44 |
| knome | i concentrated on speaking on top others at times | 21:44 |
| skellat | That happened in the community roundtable with Jono when I wore my LoCo leader hat | 21:45 |
| knome | who outspoke who? | 21:45 |
| skellat | Jono and Jorge Castro took turns...and then I did cut off others at least once or twice | 21:46 |
| knome | awwh. | 21:46 |
| knome | back soon | 21:46 |
| skellat | Later | 21:47 |
| knome | i'm back. | 21:48 |
| skellat | Okay then. I had to shoo the cat off the printer | 21:48 |
| knome | heh | 21:49 |
| knome | i don't need to do that | 21:49 |
| knome | i don't have a car. | 21:49 |
| knome | nor printer. | 21:49 |
| ochosi | cat!=car | 21:49 |
| skellat | ochosi FTW! | 21:50 |
| skellat | :-) | 21:50 |
| knome | haha! | 21:50 |
| knome | i don't have a car either. | 21:50 |
| skellat | Well, I gotta get figure out dinner. I may or may not throw together a blog post later tonight. As to packageset permissions...I'll leave that to tomorrow's round of discussions. | 21:53 |
| * skellat wanders off to the kitchen | 21:53 | |
| knome | bon appetit | 21:53 |
| lderan | im up for helping out as much as I can :D | 22:14 |
| knome | with the dinner? me too | 22:18 |
| knome | pleia2, still around? | 22:21 |
| GridCube | knome, as im the one proposing the consideration of development of HUD for xubuntu, and considering that i would very probably not be able to join tomorrow, do you want me to create a small rationalization for | 23:54 |
| GridCube | it | 23:54 |
| micahg | GridCube: I'd suggest it being HUD for Xfce, not just Xubuntu | 23:55 |
| knome | GridCube, yes please | 23:58 |
| knome | GridCube, can be on the blueprint or elsewhere, as long as you link to it from the blueprint | 23:59 |
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