| ahoneybun | valorie: | 00:26 |
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| ahoneybun | I agree with apachelogger it would be cool to have it on the KDE sites. | 00:30 |
| ahoneybun | stupid time zones | 00:31 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: also it looks like there is a export part of moinmoin | 00:51 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: have what on the kde sites? | 01:58 |
| ahoneybun | the docs | 01:58 |
| valorie | like on Userbase? | 01:59 |
| valorie | hmmm | 01:59 |
| valorie | I doubt other distros do that, but that doesn't mean we couldn't | 01:59 |
| valorie | I have no clue what the policy is on that | 01:59 |
| ahoneybun | I know, yes I am sane btw ;) | 02:00 |
| ahoneybun | ? | 02:04 |
| Mirv | debfx: hi! answered to the bug report. in summary, your proposals seem good to me, but we'd need to get into agreement with Debian so that we won't diverge. | 05:04 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Thanks. | 05:42 |
| ScottK | Would someone please verify Bug #1177781 as it's almost old enough to be released to updates once verified. | 05:43 |
| ubottu | bug 1177781 in amarok (Ubuntu Raring) "QtWebKit causes crash in Amarok" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1177781 | 05:43 |
| soee | godd morning | 06:03 |
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| BluesKaj | howdy all | 11:43 |
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| soee | Hiho BluesKaj | 11:52 |
| BluesKaj | hiya soee | 11:53 |
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| Mirv | FYI here's my Qt 5.0.2 saucy plan, which I hope to start executing latest next week http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5666894/ | 12:29 |
| jussi | Mirv: even though it doesnt "touch" me, thanks for sharing - its really nice to have these things discussed. | 12:41 |
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| debfx | yay new colibri release, thanks agateau | 13:34 |
| smartboyhw_ | \o/ | 13:34 |
| agateau | debfx: you're welcome | 13:34 |
| Riddell | Mirv: what does BP stand for? | 13:50 |
| smartboyhw_ | Riddell: Blueprints? | 13:51 |
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| Mirv | Riddell: it reads at the bottom, a short-hand for qt5-beta-proper PPA where I've been doing test builds | 13:53 |
| Mirv | well wget from upstream directory welcome as well | 13:53 |
| soee | what would be the best way to start with developing some plasmoids ? | 13:54 |
| Riddell | Mirv: how come qtwebkit is in a different bzr place? | 13:55 |
| Mirv | Riddell: we've currently one patch that would need rebasing to 5.0.2, so meanwhile 5.0.1 upload would be wanted to be done first | 13:55 |
| Riddell | soee: learn QML and get inspiration from existing ones and tutorials? I expect there's stuff on techbase but ask in #plasma for info | 13:55 |
| Mirv | (the big patch that will go away once 5.1 gets released) | 13:55 |
| Mirv | the ~kubuntu-packagers qtwebkit branch is already at 5.0.2, but I wouldn't want to revert there if this's just temporary | 13:56 |
| Mirv | probably it's better to push it into ~kubuntu-packagers anyhow so I'll do that, but that's the current location | 13:57 |
| Riddell | ok whatever's easiest then | 14:00 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: ping? | 15:06 |
| Riddell | anyone coming to the hangout? | 15:06 |
| Riddell | xnox? | 15:06 |
| xnox | Riddell: i'm waiting for it to start. | 15:07 |
| * xnox watching from a library. | 15:07 | |
| xnox | it has not started yet. | 15:07 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ping? | 15:30 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: When will a mumble session happen? | 15:31 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: looks like monday has a common time, will send that out shortly | 15:31 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell: Sure | 15:32 |
| smartboyhw | Probably can't come though (Biology test) | 15:32 |
| Riddell | conclusion of uefi/sb chat was going to switch to signed kernel which is obvious thing that's missing | 15:44 |
| Riddell | and backport the enablement stack | 15:44 |
| Riddell | colin was good enough to take work items for those | 15:44 |
| Riddell | as well as one for the plymouth not being set up issue | 15:45 |
| Riddell | lovely | 15:45 |
| Riddell | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1305-kubuntu-and-uefi-and-lts-backports | 15:45 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 15:45 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 16:18 |
| Riddell | Mirv: ooh 5.1 beta is out http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2013/05/14/qt-5-1-beta-released/ is that in your plans? | 16:47 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1180470] "Window title" text box disabled in Window-Specific Settings @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1180470 (by Ibrahim M. Ghazal) | 17:26 |
| superfly | Darkwing: ping | 17:38 |
| Darkwing | superfly: Poong | 17:38 |
| Darkwing | pong | 17:38 |
| superfly | Darkwing: I am the KMail moaner who conversed with you on G+ today :-) | 17:39 |
| Darkwing | ahhhh hah. | 17:39 |
| Darkwing | Give me a few. | 17:39 |
| Darkwing | :) | 17:39 |
| superfly | no worries, I need to get my things together, and then I'll mail them to you. Just wanted to touch base in IRC | 17:39 |
| Darkwing | I'm always logged on... I may not always be here but drop a message and I'll get it. | 17:40 |
| superfly | yeah, same here. | 17:40 |
| Darkwing | quassel-core FTW | 17:40 |
| superfly | precisely :-D | 17:40 |
| Darkwing | I'm watching Google I/O keynotes | 17:42 |
| superfly | I wondered :-) | 17:42 |
| superfly | I have children to keep me occupied | 17:42 |
| Darkwing | LOL Yeah, I'm a big Google guy on top of my Linux/KDE stuff. | 17:42 |
| ahoneybun | Darkwing: | 18:14 |
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| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1174495] Window Managers instability with r600 radeon and high monitor resolutions @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174495 (by sfar) | 18:30 |
| bkerensa | Riddell: Is Kubuntu docs still dead? Someone had mentioned the other day that they were going to revive it but were having a UDS session on doc today and I wanted to know what the status was going into that | 18:39 |
| ahoneybun | bkerensa: me and valorie are moving it and editing it to a wiki | 18:40 |
| bkerensa | ahoneybun: will it be coming back to the repo at somepoint or just wiki based? | 18:40 |
| ahoneybun | not sure, valorie wants to have it on both | 18:41 |
| bkerensa | kk | 18:42 |
| ahoneybun | still a work in progress | 18:42 |
| ahoneybun | bkerensa: want to see? | 18:43 |
| bkerensa | ahoneybun: maybe in a bit I have to get a agenda for the doc session together here | 18:44 |
| ahoneybun | oh thats more important for sure np | 18:44 |
| ahoneybun | I want to be in that session | 18:45 |
| ahoneybun | bkerensa: I was trying to make my own branch on lp for my changes to the docs | 18:49 |
| ahoneybun | bkerensa: ? | 21:09 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: did you attend the vUDS doc session? | 21:19 |
| ahoneybun | yea I was there | 21:20 |
| valorie | cool | 21:20 |
| ahoneybun | kinda I was a bit late | 21:20 |
| valorie | oh well | 21:20 |
| valorie | it's all available by video | 21:20 |
| ahoneybun | yea I know but being there is better | 21:20 |
| valorie | but it's great to get our voices heard | 21:20 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 21:21 |
| valorie | I went to two: the community link session, and u-w planning | 21:21 |
| ahoneybun | I wish there were more of us in this | 21:21 |
| ahoneybun | yea the women in ubuntu thing | 21:21 |
| ahoneybun | btw | 21:21 |
| valorie | I'll email the list and elicit feedback about how many attended, and thoughts | 21:22 |
| ahoneybun | I got my changes to the kubuntu-docs pushed to my personal branch | 21:22 |
| ahoneybun | https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/raring | 21:22 |
| valorie | how did you do that? | 21:22 |
| valorie | hand-make the changes? | 21:22 |
| ahoneybun | idk really | 21:22 |
| ahoneybun | its bad kinda cuz I did not write where I made them | 21:23 |
| ahoneybun | ... | 21:23 |
| valorie | did you import from the wiki, or edit what was already there/ | 21:23 |
| valorie | I really want to eliminate trying to edit in two places | 21:23 |
| valorie | because all those damn typos will stick around that way | 21:24 |
| valorie | and other cruft | 21:24 |
| ahoneybun | well it is the original DocBook on my branch | 21:24 |
| ahoneybun | I think it would have been better to fix up the DocBook and then import the xml files | 21:24 |
| ahoneybun | thinking now | 21:24 |
| ahoneybun | the most changes on my branch is the images are updated about 75% | 21:25 |
| valorie | that's cool | 21:28 |
| ahoneybun | I'll be on later you can see the branch and email the changes I need to make | 21:28 |
| valorie | but that means all the typos we fixed are probably still in your branch | 21:28 |
| valorie | etc. | 21:28 |
| valorie | which -- that's what drives me insane | 21:28 |
| valorie | we've done the work, but don't have the process fixed yet | 21:29 |
| Mamarok | And we have a bugfix version out: http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.7.1 | 22:11 |
| jessie | Mamarok: Praise the gods! | 22:13 |
| Riddell | hoorah | 22:13 |
| Riddell | kubotu: newversion amarok 2.7.1 | 22:13 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1180576 | 22:14 |
| jessie | Maybe now it won't crash so much. | 22:15 |
| Riddell | jessie: still needs packaged, fancy taking that up? | 22:18 |
| jessie | ... I have no idea how to do that. But sure! | 22:18 |
| yofel | Quintasan: your kdeplasma-addons merge doesn't like kamoso: plasma-runners-addons : Breaks: kamoso (< 2.0.2+) but 2.0.2-1ubuntu3 is installed. | 22:19 |
| yofel | what debian did there looks rather fishy though... | 22:19 |
| Riddell | jessie: if you have a spare hour or so I can take you through it | 22:19 |
| jessie | Yeah, I should be able to spend ~1 hour or so. | 22:19 |
| Riddell | jessie: what's your launchpad id? | 22:19 |
| jessie | JessieAMorris | 22:20 |
| Riddell | ok setting up the ec2 | 22:21 |
| jessie | Creating a fresh install of Kubuntu? | 22:21 |
| Riddell | yep, in the cloud | 22:23 |
| jessie | Mkay, sounds good. Is that common to build packages? Should I have a VM set up for building packages? | 22:23 |
| Riddell | that's probably a bit much, you can use debootstrap to make a chroot | 22:24 |
| jessie | Eh, but I'm generally on beta-alpha type packages. ha | 22:25 |
| Riddell | jessie: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-224-94-150.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 22:25 |
| Riddell | jessie: then run byobu | 22:25 |
| Riddell | jessie: type something | 22:26 |
| Riddell | cool :) | 22:26 |
| Riddell | jessie: ok make a directoy to get the old source and apt-get source amarok | 22:26 |
| Riddell | jessie: you have sudo | 22:28 |
| Riddell | run an apt-get update I think | 22:28 |
| Riddell | jessie: ah the amazon mirror isn't updated for saucy | 22:29 |
| Riddell | jessie: remove us-east-1.ec2. from the sources.list | 22:29 |
| Riddell | jessie: no no, that just removed them all | 22:30 |
| Riddell | jessie: change us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com | 22:30 |
| jessie | Riddell: Mkay, now what? | 22:34 |
| Riddell | jessie: in the first directoy download the new amarok tar | 22:35 |
| Riddell | jessie: the tar needs a very paticular name | 22:36 |
| Riddell | rename it to amarok_2.7.1.orig.tar.bz2 | 22:36 |
| Riddell | jessie: untar it | 22:37 |
| Riddell | and copy the debian/ directory from the old version into it | 22:37 |
| Riddell | jessie: wee tip, you can avoid the "j" from tar arguments these days | 22:38 |
| Riddell | it's smart enough to work that out | 22:38 |
| jessie | Oh, nice. That's good to know. | 22:38 |
| Riddell | jessie: dch -i will add a new changelog entry | 22:39 |
| Riddell | fix the template to have the right version no and your name/email | 22:39 |
| jessie | Riddell: What other info should I put in the changelog? | 22:41 |
| Riddell | jessie: you can change unreleased to saucy | 22:41 |
| Riddell | groovy | 22:41 |
| Riddell | it's ready to compile | 22:41 |
| Riddell | run debuild | 22:41 |
| Riddell | jessie: oh hang on | 22:42 |
| Riddell | jessie: the version number inthe changelog isn't right | 22:42 |
| Riddell | edit debian/changelog and fix it | 22:42 |
| Riddell | should be 2.7.1-0ubuntu1 | 22:42 |
| jessie | What's the 2: in front about? | 22:42 |
| jessie | 2:2.7.1-0... | 22:43 |
| jessie | ? | 22:43 |
| Riddell | jessie: that means someone screwed up the version number at some point | 22:43 |
| Riddell | since new packages always need a larger version than the previous version | 22:43 |
| jessie | Ahhh... That makes sense. | 22:43 |
| Riddell | so it get a number called the epoch infront of it to reset it | 22:43 |
| Riddell | that someone might have been me back when I was new to this game | 22:43 |
| Riddell | ah,patch | 22:44 |
| Riddell | jessie: let me look at this | 22:44 |
| Riddell | with a real editor! | 22:45 |
| jessie | Lmao, an Emacs fan, eh!? | 22:45 |
| Riddell | jessie: ok that's them updated | 22:49 |
| Riddell | jessie: debuild away | 22:49 |
| Riddell | jessie: install pbuilder | 22:50 |
| Riddell | and run /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends | 22:50 |
| Riddell | jessie: oh install aptitude too | 22:50 |
| jessie | Riddell: I take it the fake backend is fine for building? | 22:52 |
| Riddell | jessie: yeah | 22:53 |
| Riddell | jessie: lovely, time for a cup of tea | 22:55 |
| jessie | Something something, XKCD link. | 22:56 |
| jessie | So this is what using Gentoo is like? :-P | 22:57 |
| Riddell | yeah pretty much :) | 22:57 |
| Riddell | hmm maybe I should have started a faster ec2 | 23:03 |
| jessie | So, while we're waiting, it seems everyone here prefers Quassel over Konversation. Why? | 23:06 |
| Riddell | it's installed by default for historical reasons | 23:07 |
| Riddell | it can be run on a server to keep your connection permanantly | 23:08 |
| Riddell | personally I use irssi | 23:08 |
| jessie | Oh, that's a big plus. | 23:08 |
| valorie | konversation <3 | 23:10 |
| valorie | so not *everyone* | 23:11 |
| valorie | KDE provides a nice bnc | 23:11 |
| jessie | valorie: Agreed. Though I do wish that the SASL authentication stuff would get moved into a package. | 23:11 |
| valorie | I thought that was done? | 23:11 |
| valorie | I like text logs | 23:12 |
| jessie | Maybe? I had to install from git for 13.04 | 23:12 |
| valorie | no way I'm going to use a db to search online | 23:12 |
| valorie | our 13.04 package was made from git | 23:12 |
| valorie | Konversation | 23:12 |
| jessie | Hmmm... Maybe in 13.04 I finally didn't have to install from git. | 23:13 |
| valorie | Version 1.5-branch #4215 | 23:13 |
| valorie | I have no problem with quassel being available, but feel we should be using KDE packages by default | 23:14 |
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| Riddell | saucy meeting Monday 15:00UTC | 23:16 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: | 23:19 |
| valorie | Riddell: I tested mumble on this puter last night and I get shrieking | 23:20 |
| valorie | I'll keep trying though | 23:21 |
| ahoneybun | back | 23:21 |
| Riddell | valorie: hum, I've not tested it recently | 23:22 |
| valorie | last time I couldn't participate because it didn't work for me, but this is a different computer | 23:23 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: only issue is that I don't know how to put my changes from the wiki into the docbook | 23:24 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: yes, that is THE issue | 23:24 |
| jessie | Riddell: You weren't kidding about this instance being slow. What is it, a Micro instance? | 23:24 |
| ahoneybun | you sound upset | 23:24 |
| valorie | we'll have to figure that out for this to be a success, really | 23:24 |
| valorie | no, it's just a problem we haven't solved yet | 23:24 |
| valorie | most problems are solvable | 23:25 |
| valorie | we'll do it | 23:25 |
| ahoneybun | I thought I could copy and paste but its a bit more if a process | 23:25 |
| valorie | and we have 4 months or so | 23:25 |
| Riddell | jessie: a small one | 23:25 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: that neither of us can write docbook? | 23:26 |
| ahoneybun | its just the &subject things that mess with me | 23:26 |
| valorie | it's just xml | 23:26 |
| ahoneybun | like &linux | 23:26 |
| valorie | I actually prefer xml to moinmoin markup | 23:27 |
| valorie | lol | 23:27 |
| jessie | Riddell: I have to go home and work on my car now. If I don't the wife is going to kill me. :-/ | 23:27 |
| ahoneybun | but moinmoin look like plain text to me | 23:27 |
| valorie | because I'm used to writing html by hand | 23:27 |
| Riddell | jessie: ok, ping me tomorrow or anytime to finish this | 23:27 |
| Riddell | jessie: thanks for starting it | 23:27 |
| jessie | Riddell: Yeah, thanks for helping me learn. We'll see you tomorrow. | 23:27 |
| valorie | Riddell: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Mumble+meeting&iso=20130520T15&p1=1440&am=45 | 23:28 |
| ahoneybun | yea I know I'm a bit used to that as well | 23:28 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: what does the words in yellow mean? with the & in front? | 23:31 |
| valorie | what words in yellow? | 23:31 |
| valorie | not sure where you are looking | 23:31 |
| ahoneybun | well in kate they are yellow | 23:31 |
| ahoneybun | the xml | 23:31 |
| valorie | oh, that might be kate doing that | 23:31 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 23:31 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: | 23:33 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpOnXmlPages | 23:33 |
| ahoneybun | moinmoin can render docbook pages | 23:34 |
| valorie | but can it go the other way? | 23:35 |
| valorie | I know it's possible, but can WE do it? | 23:35 |
| ahoneybun | I'll see about it on for the welcome page first | 23:36 |
| ahoneybun | well the tool Python4Suite is dead | 23:37 |
| valorie | because it would be great to have our wiki version always 'in work' for the next release | 23:37 |
| valorie | and then be able to output html pages for the website, and docbook for the release | 23:37 |
| ahoneybun | yea I know | 23:38 |
| valorie | one wiki to rule them all | 23:38 |
| valorie | but like I said, we have a while to figure this out | 23:38 |
| ahoneybun | that would be cool] | 23:38 |
| valorie | the sooner the better for the webpages | 23:39 |
| valorie | it would be good to have someone work on the kde help center, so all the docs displayed right | 23:39 |
| valorie | the kde doc team is really cool | 23:40 |
| ahoneybun | oj | 23:41 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 23:41 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: http://wiki.tldp.org/ this wiki has the function | 23:48 |
| valorie | \o/ | 23:48 |
| ahoneybun | can we move it there? | 23:48 |
| ahoneybun | or make a copy and then export? | 23:48 |
| valorie | dinnertime here now -- I'll be back in about 4 hours, since it's my night with my daddy | 23:49 |
| ahoneybun | ok I'll be on | 23:49 |
| ahoneybun | what should I do | 23:49 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: might be a good thing to discuss at the mumble meeting? | 23:49 |
| ahoneybun | when is that? | 23:49 |
| valorie | Monday | 23:49 |
| ahoneybun | time? | 23:49 |
| valorie | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Mumble+meeting&iso=20130520T15&p1=1440&am=45 | 23:50 |
| valorie | :-) | 23:50 |
| ahoneybun | I'm at work | 23:50 |
| ahoneybun | can you talk about it there for me? | 23:50 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: | 23:52 |
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